Bengals currently 4 point favorites - Really?

[TLO]

Is anyone else surprised by this? 4 points for a 3-0 team playing at home against an Alex Smith led Chiefs team...

I'd imagine the $$$$$$$$$$ is flowing in for people picking the Bengals

[FlaChief58]

I'd imagine it was our stellar performance on monday night that's driving that line

[ChiliConCarnage]

Yeah, I'd think it'd be a couple points higher. On a short week too

[GloryDayz]

I don't gamble, but this has me wondering if I shouldn't start.

[hometeam]

Yea.. Alex Smith sucks. Not sure if that has been discussed around here.

[TimBone]

The thing is that the team does have a ton of talent, and there are times where the Defense does enough to win the game despite having a huge vagina under center on the offense.

They have too much talent to be huge underdogs.

[staylor26]

I think Vegas just realizes the impact Sean Smith will have on this defense. You take Talib off that Broncos d the first 3 weeks and they're likely 1-2 also.

[ChiefRocka]

Its a must win for us and a trap for them. Plus the ginger.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I think Vegas just realizes the impact Sean Smith will have on this defense. You take Talib off that Broncos d the first 3 weeks and they're likely 1-2 also.

Chris Harris is Denver's top corner, but I suppose Talib compares better physically.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

They know :

1)The Chiefs are a good team
2) The Chiefs only lost to Denver because of 2 Charles fumbles
3) Aaron Rodgers is on a different level and RIGHT NOW could beat any team.
4) the Chiefs should be 2-1 right now
5) Andy Reid

[BossChief]

The over under is only 44, too.

I hate to say it, but taking the Bengals and the over seems like easy money.

[FlaChief58]

The over under is only 44, too.

I hate to say it, but taking the Bengals and the over seems like easy money.

And just then the Chiefs win big, 43-0

[Saul Good]

Vegas is begging people to bet on Cincy. Take the Chiefs and the points.

[notorious]

Oh shit.


Something is amiss.

Look for the Chiefs to win, now.

[Mr. Laz]

Chances are that Cincy's Dline rapes us live on t.v.

Don't worry, Reid will start throwing WR screens to combat it though. :banghead:

[Ming the Merciless]

It does seem a tad low, but more than 7 points is pretty rare, maybe a couple/few of the matchups per week..

I guess there are enough people taking the chiefs +4 points to keep it steady so far...

I don't feel like 4 points is enough to make me want to take this bet....

Even at 7 , I would still be scared...I have no idea what team will show up in cinci....

[Saul Good]

70% of the bets are on Cincy. 60% of the money is on KC, though.

[notorious]

70% of the bets are on Cincy. 60% of the money is on KC, though.

Fish are betting Cincy, Sharks are betting KC.


Like I said, something is amiss.

[Saul Good]

Fish are betting Cincy, Sharks are betting KC.


Like I said, something is amiss.

Exactly. My main strategy when it comes to sports betting is to figure out what Vegas wants me to do and bet the other way. It's not that hard to smell a rat when you're aware that there are rats to be found.

[mdstu]

70% of the bets are on Cincy. 60% of the money is on KC, though.

Where do you get these numbers?
I'm not questioning them, just curious.

[Ming the Merciless]

Exactly. My main strategy when it comes to sports betting is to figure out what Vegas wants me to do and bet the other way. It's not that hard to smell a rat when you're aware that there are rats to be found.

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[Saul Good]

Where do you get these numbers?
I'm not questioning them, just curious.

Check the betting trends on the right side of the page.

http://www.scoresandodds.com/casinogrid.html

[notorious]

:eek:

91% of the money is on the Giants? Holy cow.

[Saul Good]

:eek:

91% of the money is on the Giants? Holy cow.

Yet only half the bets are on them. The big money players are pounding them.

[mdstu]

Check the betting trends on the right side of the page.

http://www.scoresandodds.com/casinogrid.html

Thank you

[mdstu]

Some of those numbers were really confusing me, they didn't make sense.
Then it hit me.
The "Side" column is the percentage of money bet on the spread.
The "Money" column is the percentage of money bet on the money line.

91% of the money is not bet on the Giant.
91% of the money bet on the "Money Line" is on the Giants.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Fish are betting Cincy, Sharks are betting KC.


Like I said, something is amiss.

The sharks are factoring in in-game injuries for the Bengals. They're going to lose several key defensive players before halftime due to them splitting their sides open laughing at Alex Smith.

[Saul Good]

Some of those numbers were really confusing me, they didn't make sense.
Then it hit me.
The "Side" column is the percentage of money bet on the spread.
The "Money" column is the percentage of money bet on the money line.

91% of the money is not bet on the Giant.
91% of the money bet on the "Money Line" is on the Giants.

No...91% of bets placed are on the Giants, but only half the total amount of money has been bet on them. A ton of small bets have been placed on the Giants. A few very large bets have been placed on the Bills.

Every Joe Goatee in Vegas dropped $50 on New York. The big players are on Buffalo.

[chiefzilla1501]

In 3 years (36 games), the Chiefs have only lost by more than 7 points 5 times. They've only lost by more than 4 points 9 times.

Yet because we lost one game by 10 points we suddenly think this team is going to get blown out.

Or maybe guys who make a gajillion dollars making Vegas odds don't overreact the way we do.

[Saul Good]

In 3 years (36 games), the Chiefs have only lost by more than 7 points 5 times. They've only lost by more than 4 points 9 times.

Yet because we lost one game by 10 points we suddenly think this team is going to get blown out.

Or maybe guys who make a gajillion dollars making Vegas odds don't overreact the way we do.

Yep. The numbers don't lie. People are emotional and see things in much more polar terms than reality. We got crushed by Green Bay and lost by 10. It felt like we lost by 40...but it was 10.

[mdstu]

It says right on the top of the page that the money column is the money bet on the money line, which makes sense that 91% is on the Giants, it pays out at +195.

Look at some of the college games.
133 LOUISVILLE 42% 100%
134 NORTH CAROLINA STATE 58% 0%

It's not possible that 58% of the bets are on on NC State, but 100% of the money is on Louisville. The spread bets are 50/50 and all of the money line bets are on Louisville (+165).

Side:
Side is the Point Spread Line (“against the spread”) or in Baseball, the Run Line.
Money:
This is the “Money Line” bet where bookmakers adjust the price of the wager instead of using a point spread to even the odds.
Total:
Total is also known as Over/Under, where the wager is based on the total points scored by both teams.

[Saul Good]

It says right on the top of the page that the money column is the money bet on the money line, which makes sense that 91% is on the Giants, it pays out at +195.

Look at some of the college games.
133 LOUISVILLE 42% 100%
134 NORTH CAROLINA STATE 58% 0%

It's not possible that 58% of the bets are on on NC State, but 100% of the money is on Louisville. The spread bets are 50/50 and all of the money line bets are on Louisville (+165).

Side:
Side is the Point Spread Line (“against the spread”) or in Baseball, the Run Line.
Money:
This is the “Money Line” bet where bookmakers adjust the price of the wager instead of using a point spread to even the odds.
Total:
Total is also known as Over/Under, where the wager is based on the total points scored by both teams.

You're right. I was reading it wrong.

[mdstu]

Yeah, that is the reason I asked.
I remember searching the internet for betting trends, while the "Rigged" thread was gaining steam.
It seemed that the Casinos and Betting sites don't really want you to know where all the money is. Which makes sense I guess.

Thanks for the link though, that site has a nice format and is easy to find info. Bookmarked.

[BWillie]

Is anyone else surprised by this? 4 points for a 3-0 team playing at home against an Alex Smith led Chiefs team...

I'd imagine the $$$$$$$$$$ is flowing in for people picking the Bengals

I would pick the Chiefs to cover. You cant control the teams you play in the 1st 3 games of the season.

[Buehler445]

89% of the money is on Cleveland? How in the.....I don't even.....But....Jesus.

[eDave]

I don't gamble, but this has me wondering if I shouldn't start.

This is how they get you. Look the other way.

But listening to these guys betting is fascinating.

[eDave]

The thing is that the team does have a ton of talent, and there are times where the Defense does enough to win the game despite having a huge vagina under center on the offense.

They have too much talent to be huge underdogs.

We're just not coached well. At all. Irks the shit out of me that Reid still calls plays. Who else does that?

[eDave]

The sharks are factoring in in-game injuries for the Bengals. They're going to lose several key defensive players before halftime due to them splitting their sides open laughing at Alex Smith.

Kinda funny. Witty is probably a better term. 8/10.

[Ming the Merciless]

I'm normally pretty logical in life but I can't bet against the chiefs

I would give up the 4 points and take the over though.

I'm 4-0 against t he spread this year and 4-0 on the o/u. On record.

[New World Order]

I'm normally pretty logical in life but I can't bet against the chiefs

I would give up the 4 points and take the over though.

I'm 4-0 against t he spread this year and 4-0 on the o/u. On record.


I have a weird feeling about this game. I just don't see cinci running away with it.

[Ming the Merciless]

I have a weird feeling about this game. I just don't see cinci running away with it.

I don't see them running away with it like GB Did.

That game looked like a 35-10 blowout, yet we lost merely by a TD + FG.

I think it will be a much closer game....but we could still lose by 7 -10

[crazycoffey]

Where do you get these numbers?
I'm not questioning them, just curious.

From his head; where he gets all his numbers

[crazycoffey]

I'm normally pretty logical in life but I can't bet against the chiefs

I would give up the 4 points and take the over though.

I'm 4-0 against t he spread this year and 4-0 on the o/u. On record.

That must mean you're clairvoyant and not lucky....

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's not a tarp. Vegas is feeding you honest bread this time.

[mdchiefsfan]

Chances are that Cincy's Dline rapes us live on t.v.

Don't worry, Reid will start throwing WR screens to combat it though. :banghead:

Don't forget the end arounds. Works every time.

[Chromatic]

If this turns into another blowout I'm officially declaring this season "2011 Part Deax".

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't see them running away with it like GB Did.

That game looked like a 35-10 blowout, yet we lost merely by a TD + FG.

I think it will be a much closer game....but we could still lose by 7 -10

I don't think we'll win. But I don't think we'll get blown out.

[Mile High Mania]

There's a reason I've never been into gambling... just reading this thread (while interesting) made my head hurt.

[BossChief]

If this turns into another blowout I'm officially declaring this season "2011 Part Deax".

Or 2004

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'm looking forward to a Hermtastic extravaganza of Casselian proportions!

[Chromatic]

Or 2004

We had a ballin as fuck offense in 2004 with a QB who threw for 4500 yards. Not really comparable to 2004 imo.

[Why Not?]

The 4 still scared me so I teased the Chiefs at +10. Also love the over.

[Garcia Bronco]

Is anyone else surprised by this? 4 points for a 3-0 team playing at home against an Alex Smith led Chiefs team...

I'd imagine the $$$$$$$$$$ is flowing in for people picking the Bengals

Vegas isn't picking who wins or whom is the better team...they're picking who will make them the most money

[King_Chief_Fan]

I don't think we'll win. But I don't think we'll get blown out.

a loss is a loss..."we only lost by x is not a way to look at it". Sounds like Herm Edwards..."we were in the game" when they really weren't.

[Saul Good]

From his head; where he gets all his numbers

That must mean you're clairvoyant and not lucky....

Excellent contribution, Coffey. How's your hangover?

[Why Not?]

a loss is a loss

Except in the betting world.

[Rausch]

I have a weird feeling about this game. I just don't see cinci running away with it.

You will soon enough...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Most people aren't over reacting morons like this board. That's why two fairly even teams are expected to play....fairly even

[Brock]

The bengals will simply out physical the chiefs. This is a soft front running team.

[Nzoner]

Yeah, that is the reason I asked.
I remember searching the internet for betting trends, while the "Rigged" thread was gaining steam.
It seemed that the Casinos and Betting sites don't really want you to know where all the money is. Which makes sense I guess.

Thanks for the link though, that site has a nice format and is easy to find info. Bookmarked.

They have a good app as well

[Nzoner]

The 4 still scared me so I teased the Chiefs at +10. Also love the over.

Just curious are you betting teasers at a site or local?Just asking because locally it's hard to find around here.

[chiefzilla1501]

a loss is a loss..."we only lost by x is not a way to look at it". Sounds like Herm Edwards..."we were in the game" when they really weren't.

In most games, we have a shot to win or tie in the 4th. So yeah, I think there's a difference between being outmatched and just not winning. The chiefs weren't outmatched against Denver. So why are we so convinced they're outmatched against cincy?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

In most games, we have a shot to win or tie in the 4th. So yeah, I think there's a difference between being outmatched and just not winning. The chiefs weren't outmatched against Denver. So why are we so convinced they're outmatched against cincy?

Because this place is full retard after a loss. It's embarrassing.

[chiefzilla1501]

Because this place is full retard after a loss. It's embarrassing.

But what does Vegas know...

[Nzoner]

There's a reason I've never been into gambling... just reading this thread (while interesting) made my head hurt.

It's really not too bad once you understand the terminology and payouts etc. but be warned it can be a thrill ride of epic proportions that keeps you coming back again and again.IMO it's the reason that games like FanDuel are blowing up.

I can tell you this though there's no better gaming experience than being in a Vegas sportsbook with a thousand others all with a financial interest in a game yet undecided on spread and total that's got a few minutes left.

[Nzoner]

But what does Vegas know...

Vegas knows that the average gambler reacts a lot like this place.

[TLO]

Can one of you assholes bet like 5 million on the Bengals so that the NFL rigs the game for the Chiefs to win?

Thanks in advance.

[BWillie]

Chiefs going to win by 3.

[KCUnited]

Chiefs always win a couple they shouldn't.

[bdj23]

I'm half tempted to take the Chiefs in this one. I dunno. Just feels like a Chiefs thing to do in winning this game.

Lure us all back in.

[Mr. Laz]

The bengals will simply out physical the chiefs. This is a soft front running team.

yep,yep,yep,yep,yep


Thanks, Andy!

[BWillie]

I like when people say that 70% of the money is on the Bengals. You know what that means? The public is betting against the Chiefs to cover. And what do we know about the public? They are losers (in sportsbetting), so that should be a good sign.

[Why Not?]

Just curious are you betting teasers at a site or local?Just asking because locally it's hard to find around here.

Site. Bovada

[Why Not?]

Vegas knows that the average gambler reacts a lot like this place.

Ain't that the truth

[BWillie]

Site. Bovada

Great site. They are really good at laundering money too (by paying out fast)

[crazycoffey]

Because this place is full retard after a loss. It's entertaining.

Fixed

[Amnorix]

You played at Green Bay on Monday night and now you're playing at Cincinnati? That's kind of a screw job by the NFL schedule-makers.

[Bob Dole]

It's really not too bad once you understand the terminology and payouts etc. but be warned it can be a thrill ride of epic proportions that keeps you coming back again and again.IMO it's the reason that games like FanDuel are blowing up.

I can tell you this though there's no better gaming experience than being in a Vegas sportsbook with a thousand others all with a financial interest in a game yet undecided on spread and total that's got a few minutes left.

Unless you're a MIZZOU basketball fan...

[chiefzilla1501]

You played at Green Bay on Monday night and now you're playing at Cincinnati? That's kind of a screw job by the NFL schedule-makers.

Yes and no. Fucked us with an early short Thursday game. Gave us a big advantage with an 11 game rest going into green Bay. So no excuse for the chiefs to have looked flat.

More importantly, the chiefs didn't really play on Monday, so hopefully they didn't get gassed. Only Houston has an excuse to be tired.

[notorious]

Lure us all back in.

Yep.

[notorious]

You played at Green Bay on Monday night and now you're playing at Cincinnati? That's kind of a screw job by the NFL schedule-makers.

How about 3 home games in 11 weeks?


That was the screw job.

[Mav]

Chris Harris is Denver's top corner, but I suppose Talib compares better physically.


Not this year so far at least.

[okcchief]

I felt good about the Chiefs this year aside from the early schedule and Alex Smith. So far both of those things have been problematic.

[Reerun_KC]

I felt good about the Chiefs this year aside from the early schedule and Alex Smith. So far both of those things have been problematic.

I knew the season was done when Reid Reided the biggest series in the biggest game for the Chiefs in the last decade. A chance to put a statement on the season and give the franchise the boost of confidence it needed. 1st and goal from the 2.... Then Reid happened many more times that Thursday night...

Season done. Confidence gone.... This franchise is emotionally exhausting for fans that grasp the concepts of what it takes to win in the modern day NFL...

[stumppy]

I felt good about the Chiefs this year aside from the early schedule and Alex Smith. So far both of those things have been problematic.

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln how was the play ?

[MahiMike]

This is the perfect bounce back game. 2-2 to finish the 1st quarter. 5 turnovers away from 3-1.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I felt good about the Chiefs this year aside from the early schedule and Alex Smith. So far both of those things have been problematicway worse than even I could have imagined.

FXD.

[TEX]

I felt good about the Chiefs this year aside from the early schedule and Alex Smith. So far both of those things have been problematic.

I saw that as well but I also included the OL. There were always way too many questions for me to think anything better than 8-8 was possible. I picked 8-8 on the prediction thread. Now Im not so sure about that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I saw that as well but I also included the OL. There were always way too many questions for me to think anything better than 8-8 was possible. I picked 8-8 on the prediction thread. Now Im not so sure about that.

At this point, a sub .500 ReidSmith would be a painful blessing for all.

[TEX]

At this point, a sub .500 ReidSmith would be a painful blessing for all.

I think you may be right. How we lost that Denver game did it for me. As bad as the play on the field was, the coaching, on both sides of the ball, was WORSE. I'm convinced that the Green Bay debacle happened as a result of the Denver loss. When we look back on the season, we may see that Denver loss as being season defining. It says worlds when you're out coached by Gary Kubiac. The team is clearly going backwards and it's year 3.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I think you may be right. How we lost that Denver game did it for me. As bad as the play on the field was, the coaching, on both sides of the ball, was WORSE. I'm convinced that the Green Bay debacle happened as a result of the Denver loss. When we look back on the season, we may see that Denver loss as being season defining. It says worlds when you're out coached by Gary Kubiac. The team is clearly going backwards and it's year 3.

Let us all meditate upon this, and reflect accordingly.

[sd4chiefs]

Let us all meditate upon this, and reflect accordingly.

:banghead: :(:deevee: :crybaby: :sulk: :Lin: :cuss:

[Kman34]

All I know is that I'm playing golf tomorrow an will DVR the game. I will decide whether to watch it when i get home.................probably not

[Nzoner]

Unless you're a MIZZOU basketball fan...

If you recall at 21.5 point favorites I took Norfolk :D

[jimidollar]

I can't wait for this game to start. We need new shit to bitch about.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I can't wait for this game to start. We need new shit to bitch about.

This. The hate of the week has lost its glorious vim. I need to be fed again.

[GloryDayz]

This. The hate of the week has lost its glorious vim. I need to be fed again.

We need to start guessing what, exactly, the fail of the week will be.

[Discuss Thrower]

We need to start guessing what, exactly, the fail of the week will be.

It'll be Sean Smith or Peters' fault in the minds of a lot of homers. Guarantee it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We need to start guessing what, exactly, the fail of the week will be.


I'm guessing some full-fetal followed by.....mmmm.....damn.

My spidey sense is telling me that either Kelce or Charles are about to get fucking PLOWED on a shitty ReidSmith screen. I mean BAD.

Not good.

Also, 4th quarter clock hi-jinx from Reid that will be the most comical yet.

[notorious]

I had a dream yesterday afternoon that Smith was aggressive and throwing downfield successfully against Cincy.

The bad part: I had just had lasik and was medicated from valium and one percicet (sp?).

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I had a dream yesterday afternoon that Smith was aggressive and throwing downfield successfully against Cincy.

The bad part: I had just had lasik and was medicated from valium and one percicet (sp?).

You knew it was coming:

http://cdn.spectator.org/styles/article_page/s3/south-park-s08e03c10-timmy-goes-to-mackey-16x9.jpg?itok=7Y9ga9nB

[OnTheWarpath15]

My spidey sense is telling me that either Kelce or Charles are about to get fucking PLOWED on a shitty ReidSmith screen. I mean BAD.

He damn near got West? murdered on the field Monday night.

[notorious]

You knew it was coming:

http://cdn.spectator.org/styles/article_page/s3/south-park-s08e03c10-timmy-goes-to-mackey-16x9.jpg?itok=7Y9ga9nB

You aren't kidding.

I am one of the few people on this planet that has never did drugs.

I prefer my high to come 12 ounces at a time.

That shit fucked me up every which way imaginable. Seriously, I could have dreamed that 3 supermodels were using my body as a jungle gym and it would have been more believable.

[Nzoner]

I am one of the few people on this planet that has never did drugs.



I think you're still ****ed up :)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

He damn near got West? murdered on the field Monday night.

This week they hit paydirt. It's coming.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Speaking of drugs, this is the song Sandy Cheeks fantasy-strips to when Alex is on TV:

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[GloryDayz]

The younger son and I tee-off at 7:20, so we shouldn't be too late to the show.

[milkman]

Not a gambler, but I'd like to know how far they go with this?

Do they have an over/under for Alex Smith first half passing yards?

[BossChief]

I'd bet his int yards > his passing yards

[chiefzilla1501]

It'll be Sean Smith or Peters' fault in the minds of a lot of homers. Guarantee it.

I seriously wonder where you get these stories from. Just like your last comment that much of cp was predicting a deep playoff run. Nobody is saying anything close to these things.

[mdchiefsfan]

I seriously wonder where you get these stories from. Just like your last comment that much of cp was predicting a deep playoff run. Nobody is saying anything close to these things.

He perceives it; therefore, it is real.

[Ming the Merciless]

I'm normally pretty logical in life but I can't bet against the chiefs

I would give up the 4 points and take the over though.

I'm 4-0 against t he spread this year and 4-0 on the o/u. On record.

Make it 5-0 & 5-0

[Ming the Merciless]

Not a gambler, but I'd like to know how far they go with this?

Do they have an over/under for Alex Smith first half passing yards?

Yes...they're called player props. Mostly for big games/playoffs/super bowl.


In the super bowl you can bet on ridiculous stuff like which team will call a timeout first, throw a red flag first, miss a field goal...etc...

It can be kind of fun to throw a couple dollars on player props. I once did a bunch of 5 dollar player prop cards and it was like playing bingo keeping track of which cards were busted.

I guess that's what chiefs fans are relegated to doing to keep super bowls interesting

[Discuss Thrower]

I seriously wonder where you get these stories from. Just like your last comment that much of cp was predicting a deep playoff run. Nobody is saying anything close to these things.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=292616

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293040