•••OFFICIAL MNF LIONS AT SEAHAWKS THREAD•••

[Joe Seahawk]

Go Seahawks!

[WhawhaWhat]

Go Seattle defense!

[ThaVirus]

The Seahawks are about to break off a 10 game win streak

[ThaVirus]

The Seahawks are about to break off a 10 game win streak

Ooooooh, they've got the Bengals in Cinci this coming Sunday.

That game should be fucking awesome.

[Hootie]

I expect this to be a total rape.

[Rams Fan]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/lynchrun.gif?w=650

[ThaVirus]

Aaron Donald is a nightmare

[Rams Fan]

Aaron Donald is a nightmare

Aaron Donald makes the other 31 teams offenses pee their pants.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I haven't had to do the streaming thing in years. Got a friend who's broke, and lives 300 miles from Seattle and she can't watch the game because she doesn't have cable. Anyone got a good stream for her? I'll break out the old Ron Jeremy Rep Stick for anyone who can deliver.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Well FUCK you guys too!

[Mr. Flopnuts]

ROFL

[alpha_omega]

Best of luck Joe.

[penbrook]

I haven't had to do the streaming thing in years. Got a friend who's broke, and lives 300 miles from Seattle and she can't watch the game because she doesn't have cable. Anyone got a good stream for her? I'll break out the old Ron Jeremy Rep Stick for anyone who can deliver.

Wiz1.net

[GloryDayz]

I haven't had to do the streaming thing in years. Got a friend who's broke, and lives 300 miles from Seattle and she can't watch the game because she doesn't have cable. Anyone got a good stream for her? I'll break out the old Ron Jeremy Rep Stick for anyone who can deliver.

This might help.

http://www.wikihow.com/Watch-Monday-Night-Football-Online

[Easy 6]

No offense Joe, but I'd like to see the lions pull one off here.

So tired of the same old teams dominating everyone, its starting to feel like the 90's all over again when it was the Bills, Cowboys and Niners and everyone else was just happy to be there.

[Dylan]

I haven't had to do the streaming thing in years. Got a friend who's broke, and lives 300 miles from Seattle and she can't watch the game because she doesn't have cable. Anyone got a good stream for her? I'll break out the old Ron Jeremy Rep Stick for anyone who can deliver.

Here you go, Mr. Flopnuts:

http://goatdee.net/122151/watch-detroit-lions-vs-seattle-seahawks

http://goatdee.net/ Europe time haha

[Dylan]

Wilson is going to get himself killed

Big fast fat ass defensive players

[TribalElder]

I am having a hard time mustering up enough care to actually turn this game on

NFL is losing its burst

[eDave]

http://wiz1.net/channel24

[Dylan]

Refs went to sleep? no penalties on Seahawks offensive line?

[Dylan]

I am having a hard time mustering up enough care to actually turn this game on

NFL is losing its burst

No... TribalElder, you are one of the die-hards that watch all good/bad night games with me.

What happened to last nights SNF thread? :(

[ThaVirus]

Stuffed. Good read by Wagner.

[ThaVirus]

Seattle's offensive line is horrendous.

It's probably worse than ours.

[Pepe Silvia]

The Seahawks are about to break off a 10 game win streak

http://www.adamcentric.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/NO_GOD_PLEASE_NO.gif

[ThaVirus]

Great job by Wilson there not shitting his pants.

Alex would have eaten a sack. I'm sure of it.

[KCCHIEFS27]

looks like we're in for an old fashioned 7-6 football game.

[eDave]

Heads up pop right there.

[KCCHIEFS27]

Love to see Marshawn hanging out in a suite and not on the sidelines, haha

[Dylan]

Wow... great play by Wilson

[ThaVirus]

Wilson is incredible

[Dylan]

Nice TD Wilson scrambling again

[ThaVirus]

Wilson>Luck

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Chiefs fans WISH their fucking QB had half the moxie that DangeRussWilson has.

[ThaVirus]

Russell Wilson is basically a better Alex Smith /CP

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Hey Krapernick! You ain't Russell Wilson, bro!

[Easy 6]

Whooooooa stick a fork in the lions, that little show just sucked the life out of them for good.

Gaurantee it, this isn't even a game anymore.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Wilson>Luck

Absofuckinglutely. Glad folks are finally coming around. Hootie has known from the start. You may have as well. I'm just sayin. It's not hard to fucking see.

[Dylan]

awesome pair of plays by Wilson

[DaFace]

Damn. That was impressive.

[Dylan]

Chiefs fans WISH their fucking QB had half the moxie that DangeRussWilson has.

Here is another live streaming Website.
http://www.realstreamunited.com//nfl-live-streaming-video.html

[ThaVirus]

Absofuckinglutely. Glad folks are finally coming around. Hootie has known from the start. You may have as well. I'm just sayin. It's not hard to fucking see.


Yeah, I've always felt that way, I just never said it as frequently as Hoot. You know he likes to state things 20 times in a row in every related thread to get his point across.

[eDave]

Wilson makes me sad. We'll never see that kind of thing.

[ptlyon]

Technically not secured enough for a TD, but it's a nfl loved team, so whatever

[New World Order]

Game putting me to sleep.

[Dylan]

Yeah, I've always felt that way, I just never said it as frequently as Hoot. You know he likes to state things 20 times in a row in every related thread to get his point across.

Wilson had to block for himself on those two amazing plays for the TD

[Easy 6]

Game putting me to sleep.

The hawks have taken their back and locked in a choke, its only a matter of time...

[tecumseh]

Sherman could learn a few things about defense watching this game. Or maybe any game.

[eDave]

Seahawks get TD, Lions get FG. Deja Vu.

[DaFace]

I'm probably just unobservant, but I just realized that ESPN is removing the on-screen graphics during live plays. That's kind of nice.

[eDave]

Haven't seen that before personally. Game clock hit 2:00 before the ball was snapped.

Huh.

[GloryDayz]

Wow... Wow.. awesome...

[GloryDayz]

Coach can flat chew some gum!

[GloryDayz]

Man, THAT was impressive...

[tk13]

Abso****inglutely. Glad folks are finally coming around. Hootie has known from the start. You may have as well. I'm just sayin. It's not hard to ****ing see.

Check back in about a decade from now when Wilson doesn't have the modern incarnation of the 85 Bears behind him. He's a great QB but there's a lot more to football than the QB position.

[Bob Dole]

Matthew Stafford sucks!

Wide open Calvin Johnson and he overthrows hime.

/CPTrollmentality.

[Dylan]

I wonder if there will come a time when quarterbacks take less so their team can maintain and upgrade their offensive line.

What a terrible patchwork of an offensive line - Wilson is running for his life - He takes too many hits.

[Dylan]

If Dez is smart, he will not rush back - Foot injuries are tricky.

Why rush back for a limited QB (Weeden) ?

[Dylan]

Wow – It is hard to watch every time Wilson takes off running.

Where did everyone go?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yeah, I've always felt that way, I just never said it as frequently as Hoot. You know he likes to state things 20 times in a row in every related thread to get his point across.

Hahahaha!!! Yeah, man. That's hilarious because it's true.

Check back in about a decade from now when Wilson doesn't have the modern incarnation of the 85 Bears behind him. He's a great QB but there's a lot more to football than the QB position.

Give me a break man. This isn't about defense. This isn't about winning. Look at the guy! Watch him scramble, and confidently make plays knowing he's going to get hit. You wish Alex had a shred of that moxie. He's a fucking stud bro. He's an elite QB. Shame we passed on him. 3 times...

[listopencil]

This is a nice app for your android phone for following games:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lunosoftware.nflscores

It has updates, scores, stats and a "gamecast" you can follow for games that are underway.

[ThaVirus]

Lockett LMAO

[Dylan]

Yikes. Lockett turns the ball over.

[tk13]

Hahahaha!!! Yeah, man. That's hilarious because it's true.



Give me a break man. This isn't about defense. This isn't about winning. Look at the guy! Watch him scramble, and confidently make plays knowing he's going to get hit. You wish Alex had a shred of that moxie. He's a ****ing stud bro. He's an elite QB. Shame we passed on him. 3 times...

He is a great QB. I've never argued otherwise. But most everyone on here is so QB obsessed they think that's it. You're missing one of the best defenses of this generation. They held the Lions to 3 first half points. They held Calvin Johnson to like 22 yards. Russell Wilson could've led his offense to 2 FGs and still had the lead.

Meanwhile Andrew Luck has had to play with a below average defense his entire career. It's not even close to the same situation, and saying Wilson is clearly better because of it is a joke.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

He is a great QB. I've never argued otherwise. But most everyone on here is so QB obsessed they think that's it. You're missing one of the best defenses of this generation. They held the Lions to 3 first half points. They held Calvin Johnson to like 22 yards. Russell Wilson could've led his offense to 2 FGs and still had the lead.

Meanwhile Andrew Luck has had to play with a below average defense his entire career. It's not even close to the same situation, and saying Wilson is clearly better because of it is a joke.

You make great points that I absolutely don't disagree with. This defense is elite. I'll give you that, but this isn't Alex Smith back there taking advantage of the elite talent around him. That defense was in tact with Trevaris Jackson (sic) and he didn't do shit. Russell is worth every penny of his contract, and he's so fucking obsessed with his image you just don't have to worry about him getting lazy, unmotivated, etc. He's working on branding himself and his work ethic is strong. He'll carve his own nitch in this league and most likely be a Hall of famer before it's over. I'd take him over any QB in the league right now. Hands down. Rodgers included, because of his age.

[GloryDayz]

Yeah, no hold there huh?

[KCCHIEFS27]

I guess there wasn't a blatant hold on that play?

[tk13]

No way. Rodgers is better than both Wilson and Luck. You give Rodgers a defense that allows 14 points a game... they'll make a run at the 2007 Patriots record. I mean that.

Wilson's no doubt a great QB though. I don't dispute that. Even if the guy is crazy and thinks he can cure concussions by drinking magic water, among other things.

[GloryDayz]

I guess there wasn't a blatant hold on that play?They had already called one on the Wilsons, so two is way too much to ask.

[KCCHIEFS27]

They had already called one on the Wilsons, so two is way too much to ask.

Haha, I suppose you're right. After all, I'm just an average loser that saw the hold from my couch. What do I know?!

[GloryDayz]

Look, no hold and Wilson goes down. Off, huh?

[GloryDayz]

That's a lot of makeup for a dude... The Gene Simmons makeup right there...

[Mr. Flopnuts]

No way. Rodgers is better than both Wilson and Luck. You give Rodgers a defense that allows 14 points a game... they'll make a run at the 2007 Patriots record. I mean that.

Wilson's no doubt a great QB though. I don't dispute that. Even if the guy is crazy and thinks he can cure concussions by drinking magic water, among other things.

Oh, you're reaching my soul now. Because Russell is fucking crazy. Legit. The concussion water was just the cherry on the sundae. Yeah, Rodgers is better. But who would you take RIGHT NOW to lead your franchise? Aaron has 6 years left, tops. Russ has about 15. For that reason I'll take him.

[tk13]

Yeah but half of Wilson's game is scrambling around and avoiding sacks and making things happen. When he's Rodgers' age he won't be able to do that as well. He's a smart guy though so he should be able to adjust, but will he be as effective as he is now? I don't know. It's why I like Luck and Rodgers over Wilson and Kap to begin with. A traditional pocket passer doesn't have to learn how to live in the pocket.

[Dylan]

Bills had 17 penalties in loss to Giants on Sunday. That is an awful lot of penalties for one game ... Unbelievable -

Incognito, the dirty bastard was back to his dirty ways - chop blocking players from behind.

[DaFace]

If they keep records for "most time QB keeps the ball before making a pass," that play had to have been close.

[stonedstooge]

DUDES TEEING OFF ON EACH OTHER ALL OVER THE FIELD

[GloryDayz]

LOL, helmet-to-helmet, but legal...

[GloryDayz]

The NFL will be a better place when Pete gets flagged for being a whiny punk.

[Rasputin]

How many times have they shown Pete Carol on the side lines chewing gum vigorously?

[Iowanian]

Is Andy Reid moonlighting calling plays for Detroit?

[Dylan]

I wish Wilson a long healthy career. However, he takes some brutal hits for a small guy.

Giants fans have watched too many Eagles scrambling QBs largely affected by injuries.

[Molitoth]

It's funny that Russell wilsons breakout game in the NFL was preseason against the Chiefs.
That game won him the starting job over Matt Flynn.

I love Pete Carroll for having some balls.

[CanadianChiefs]

I really liked the fish part. It showed me that Gruden can catch a ball, or a fish. Man, that's wild.

[GloryDayz]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TribalElder]

Get that QB some stick em

[TribalElder]

Decided to watch the ending

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yeah but half of Wilson's game is scrambling around and avoiding sacks and making things happen. When he's Rodgers' age he won't be able to do that as well. He's a smart guy though so he should be able to adjust, but will he be as effective as he is now? I don't know. It's why I like Luck and Rodgers over Wilson and Kap to begin with. A traditional pocket passer doesn't have to learn how to live in the pocket.

Good point, and fair enough. I'd still take Russ. I think we understand each other's viewpoints.

[GloryDayz]

How totally stupid was THAT move?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Old Chief with the tackle, but give the dude credit, he knew he couldn't try and down it there. These Lions aren't done yet!

[Dylan]

Wilson looking less amazing without Lynch :D

[cdcox]

Fielding the ball at the 2 yard line?

[ThaVirus]

Dumbass Michael Bennett with too much pride. Shut your whore mouth and win the game.

[eDave]

Game has kicked up a notch. Should be a good finish.

[Dylan]

That was a damn nice throw by Stafford to Tate on 3rd down

[ThaVirus]

Abdullah lowers his shoulder into Calvin Johnson and he legitimately does not budge an inch LMAO

[eDave]

Balls

[Dylan]

Chancellor hahaha

[ThaVirus]

This'll be a Chiefs-esque collapse by Seattle if they lose this one

[cdcox]

Matt Stafford: Fire in his belly.

[Dylan]

I hope Stafford doesn't throw an INT

I would love to see him win this game.

[GloryDayz]

That was a damn nice throw by Stafford to Tate on 3rd downIndeed... Wow, real QBs are awesome!

[eDave]

I hope Stafford doesn't throw an INT

Shush!

[GloryDayz]

I hope Stafford doesn't throw an INTI see what you did there!

[CanadianChiefs]

Stafford hasn't beat a team that finished over .500 on the road ever? Even Smiff has done that

[Dylan]

I don't know, but I think Seattle should have taken a TO????

[eDave]

LMAO

[tk13]

And, Lions.

[mr. tegu]

Wow.

[ThaVirus]

Lucky fucking break

[Dylan]

Shush!

It is second nature for me to think that way - watching my team all these years. I wish I could erase it from my mind :D

[lewdog]

That's a terrible way to lose.

[TribalElder]

MegaOoooops

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Unfuckingreal. The Lions are as cursed as we are.

[ThaVirus]

The Lions are the Chiefs of the NFC. That is so bad. They are so bad.

[cdcox]

Calvin Johnson screwed the pooch.

[tk13]

Good thing Russell Wilson was there to knock that ball out. Andrew Luck never would've made that play.

[Dylan]

WTF?

[GloryDayz]

LOL, just LOL!

[Rasputin]

Jamaalitus must be contagious.

[GoShox]

LMAO

[ThaVirus]

Kam says "give me a fucking raise"

[mr. tegu]

That's a terrible way to lose.

That is nothing. /Chiefs

[New World Order]

Oh my god

[Discuss Thrower]

Most Chiefs thing ever to happen to another team.

[DaFace]

Holy shit - I think Megatron just lost the game. :eek:

[ThaVirus]

Good thing Russell Wilson was there to knock that ball out. Andrew Luck never would've made that play.

Dangerussell would have had 1:45 to lead them back for the game-winning TD.

He's magic!

[Dylan]

NEVER fucking reach your arm over the goal line with a ball in your hands!

Jesus, Mother of God! Why don't players ever learn how dangerous that is to do

[CanadianChiefs]

You can't write this shit...or can you? Seems every SNF/MNF football game has some insane unbelievable moment or finish that people can talk about the next day.

Then again it is the chiefs and lions....

[mr. tegu]

The Lions are the Chiefs of the NFC. That is so bad. They are so bad.

It's really uncanny. They even had to waste a timeout after a timeout was called.

[cdcox]

How ironic that he tied the franchise record on that play.

[BryanBusby]

There's a reason Detroit is a loser franchise.

[ThaVirus]

Good thing Russell Wilson was there to knock that ball out. Andrew Luck never would've made that play.

Suck on that, pal.

[DaFace]

That was an incredible play by Chancellor.

[dannybcaitlyn]

If only Alex....

[tk13]

That was a great play on 3rd down. Of course if it's incomplete Pete gets killed like he did for the last play of the Super Bowl.

[Dylan]

What a Calvin gift WOW

[cdcox]

Seattle should just burn their playbook and tell Wilson to "wing it".

[Hootie]

Good thing Russell Wilson was there to knock that ball out. Andrew Luck never would've made that play.
You think they trust Russell Wilson calling that play on 3rd down or ... ?

[GloryDayz]

Megatron jawing a little too much for a guy who personally just lost a big game...

[DaFace]

Man...what a gut wrenching game for Lions fans.

[ClevelandBronco]

You can't write this shit...or can you?...

Don't start.

[Hootie]

Sucks Calvin didn't score ... I had no doubt in my mind Wilson would've won that game. Robbed of that excitement because Kam made a beastly play

[Al Bundy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That was super Chiefy way to lose by the Lions there. Should be a great match in London we can all watch at 8 AM</p>&mdash; Burton (@BurtonKSU) <a href="https://twitter.com/BurtonKSU/status/651235393933676544">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Hootie]

That was a great play on 3rd down. Of course if it's incomplete Pete gets killed like he did for the last play of the Super Bowl.
I think if nothing was open Wilson was going to just take a dive honestly

But completely different circumstances

[Dylan]

Oh well, we've been there done that - Join the club...Hurt goes away in two days.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Good thing Russell Wilson was there to knock that ball out. Andrew Luck never would've made that play.

You butt hurt, bro?

[Hootie]

"Hey Russ, they're going to sell out on the run ... Roll out and see if you can get a first or if anything is wide open or just take a dive and keep the clock running" is what I assume the thought was behind that play

[tk13]

You butt hurt, bro?

No, I don't get butt hurt over message board posts. I'm just twisting the knife.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

No, I don't get butt hurt over message board posts. I'm just twisting the knife.

Right on. You're Captain Jack Sparrow on your Lonely Island!

[Hootie]

You butt hurt, bro?
He really is ... He is a giant hypocrite when it comes to Wilson/Luck

Truth is, Wilson is the better QB from that draft class. How much data do we need?

The Colts have a 16 game winning streak against their division. No fucking joke. Andrew Luck has made his career against a total laughingstock division. 6 free wins per year. Blah blah blah Seattle defense blah blah blah

More like Jacksonville, Tennessee and Houston

[tk13]

Stat of the night: The Chiefs have scored more points than the Seahawks this year, 100-87. And the Chiefs have played 3 of the top 8 scoring defenses in the league.

[tk13]

He really is ... He is a giant hypocrite when it comes to Wilson/Luck

Truth is, Wilson is the better QB from that draft class. How much data do we need?

The Colts have a 16 game winning streak against their division. No ****ing joke. Andrew Luck has made his career against a total laughingstock division. 6 free wins per year. Blah blah blah Seattle defense blah blah blah

More like Jacksonville, Tennessee and Houston

I'm not a hypocrite. I will be right. Wait until Luck gets a top 10 defense. If he ever does.

[eDave]

Stat of the night: The Chiefs have scored more points than the Seahawks this year, 100-87. And the Chiefs have played 3 of the top 8 scoring defenses in the league.

:hmmm:

[BryanBusby]

Idk people get super worked up over the best. Wilson is a great QB that can turn shit into gold and Luck is probably the best study in the game that can't overcome aids.

Both are great and I'd take either one.

[Dylan]

NFL Rules, says it is illegal (right?) Maybe not reviewable though.

"A player may not bat or punch:

(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone."

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands

[tk13]

LMAO ESPN finally picking up the fact that Seahawks batted the ball out of endzone. Should have been Lions ball. Way to wait until after the game.

[NewChief]

Holy shit. Just had league official on who said lions got robbed. Batting ball out of end zone is a foul. Should have been Lions ball.

[KCCHIEFS27]

Wow. The Lions got hosed.

[Dylan]

It was illegal. Therefore, Lions ball.

Wow...

[cdcox]

Wow refs blew the call! Should have been lions ball at the half yard line.

[Hootie]

lol

on ESPN they are saying KJ Wright made an illegal bat in the end zone and the Lions should have gotten the ball back 1st and Goal and the 6 inch line

another great officiating moment

although, I'll be honest ... that rule is dumb ... dude made a smart play

[tk13]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s illegal to bat or punch the ball like Wagner did</p>&mdash; Pete Prisco (@PriscoCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/651236582494760961">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN finally getting to the illegal bat by Wagner</p>&mdash; Dan Wetzel (@DanWetzel) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/651238505776050177">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[NewChief]

Everyone is at a loss for words. Cut to commercial. lol.

[Hootie]

I'm not a hypocrite. I will be right. Wait until Luck gets a top 10 defense. If he ever does.

I'm just waiting for him to play in a division with QB's better than Ryan Mallet, rookie Mariota, and Blake Bortles.

The Colts have a 16 game winning streak against their division. It's not even competitive. Whatever advantage you think Wilson gets from playing with an elite defense Andrew Luck matches with playing in the giant laughingstock division that is the AFC South. Period.

Luck can eclipse Wilson once he stops making bonehead turnover after bonehead turnover. Wilson's line is every bit as bad as Luck's line, too. So that's a hilarious side note, since Luck also gets every excuse in the book due to "inadequate line play."

[Dylan]

Multi-billion dollar organization with a 10 cent officiating team.

[highBOLTage]

Someone tell Steve Young the difference is QBs and punters are on offense committing the foul vs the defender here.

[Rasputin]

I like how Ray Lewis is all up about the rules, so like killing people isn't against the rules is it?

[highBOLTage]

And isn't Blandino supposed to be in on every replay/scoring confirmation? And now he says it was missed?

[Hootie]

Meh.

That rule is about as stupid to me as the "Calvin Johnson not a catch" rule that fucked Dallas last year.

Calvin fumbled it and the defender made a good play to get the ball out of the end zone ... I realize that is apparently illegal but people saying the Lions got jobbed are forgetting Calvin fumbled the ball into the end zone ... if you don't want to lose in that situation, don't fumble.

The Lions screwed themselves as much as another shitty NFL rule screwed them. That's dumb. I don't like that rule.

[eDave]

I like how Ray Lewis is all up about the rules, so like killing people isn't against the rules is it?

LOL. He lost his train of thought and was all over the place.

[RunKC]

Wow and that's right where they fucked the Packers a couple years ago.

[Hootie]

they want to penalize Seattle for not trying to pick up the ball ... no one from Detroit was even close there ... hell, I was thinking about posting and saying, "damn, heads up play to just poke that ball out of the end zone there."

Seriously. Some of these rules shouldn't be "black and white." There should be some room for common sense. That shouldn't be illegal ... and Dez caught that fucking ball last year. I don't care what the black/white definition of the rule is.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

LMAO ESPN finally picking up the fact that Seahawks batted the ball out of endzone. Should have been Lions ball. Way to wait until after the game.

Yuuuuuuuuup! Rabblerouser may have this shit down!

[BryanBusby]

The refs can stop making up for that Super Bowl finally.

I still am trying to wrap my head around the idea of playing Matt Stafford in an Alex Smith type of offense. We got a guy that's not super accurate but has a cannon for an arm....lets dink and dunk!

[Dylan]

I like how Ray Lewis is all up about the rules, so like killing people isn't against the rules is it?

LMAO

I was thinking almost the same thing...

ESPN: "Hey, let's hire a thug connected to a murder link."

[NewChief]

"Not going to cry about it"
Fights back tears.

[tk13]

I'm just waiting for him to play in a division with QB's better than Ryan Mallet, rookie Mariota, and Blake Bortles.

The Colts have a 16 game winning streak against their division. It's not even competitive. Whatever advantage you think Wilson gets from playing with an elite defense Andrew Luck matches with playing in the giant laughingstock division that is the AFC South. Period.

Luck can eclipse Wilson once he stops making bonehead turnover after bonehead turnover. Wilson's line is every bit as bad as Luck's line, too. So that's a hilarious side note, since Luck also gets every excuse in the book due to "inadequate line play."

I agree their division is terrible. But you're the one being the hypocrite. Peyton Manning spent most of his career beating up that division, and you've made a living here saying he's the greatest. Luck does it, it's a knock against him. That's absurd. The only competition Manning ever had in that division was McNair, and the Titans weren't any good after 2003 because they gutted the team due to salary cap problems.

[Hootie]

by the way ... a ton of people on ESPN who played pro ball are saying they have never seen that call called ever ... I think that's intended to be a foul against the offense only. Hell, if it was such a blatant missed call it's embarrassing Caldwell didn't protest the call on the field. I just have a really, really, really hard time giving the Lions the ball on the 1/2 yard line there on a lame ass technicality like that. Seriously that ball would have rolled out of the end zone on its own. No one from Detroit had a chance on it. These are things that are killing pro football to me.

[Dylan]

"How do you rectify it?"

Bring the Lions back on the field - The team is still in the building

[Hootie]

I agree their division is terrible. But you're the one being the hypocrite. Peyton Manning spent most of his career beating up that division, and you've made a living here saying he's the greatest. Luck does it, it's a knock against him. That's absurd. The only competition Manning ever had in that division was McNair, and the Titans weren't any good after 2003 because they gutted the team due to salary cap problems.

...whaaaaaaaat? LMAO

Comparing the AFC South during the Manning tenure to the AFC South during the Luck tenure thus far is HYSTERICAL

HYSTERICAL

That's like claiming the NFC West is still a joke because it was a joke of a division 5-10 years ago

lollllll

[tk13]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Illegal bat out of the end zone by Seattle, should have been Lions ball. The ref wasn&#39;t in position to see it! <a href="http://t.co/2GY64NbHto">pic.twitter.com/2GY64NbHto</a></p>&mdash; Don Van Natta Jr. (@DVNJr) <a href="https://twitter.com/DVNJr/status/651239693007228929">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Dylan]

Those two fumbles by Wilson should have cost them the game.

Just my opinion.

[GloryDayz]

Meh.

That rule is about as stupid to me as the "Calvin Johnson not a catch" rule that fucked Dallas last year.

Calvin fumbled it and the defender made a good play to get the ball out of the end zone ... I realize that is apparently illegal but people saying the Lions got jobbed are forgetting Calvin fumbled the ball into the end zone ... if you don't want to lose in that situation, don't fumble.

The Lions screwed themselves as much as another shitty NFL rule screwed them. That's dumb. I don't like that rule.
Every NFL official is going to rep you.

[BryanBusby]

God damn shut up hootie. Because Megatron fumbled doesn't mean it's okay to not follow the rules if you're Seattle.

[RunKC]

by the way ... a ton of people on ESPN who played pro ball are saying they have never seen that call called ever ... I think that's intended to be a foul against the offense only. Hell, if it was such a blatant missed call it's embarrassing Caldwell didn't protest the call on the field. I just have a really, really, really hard time giving the Lions the ball on the 1/2 yard line there on a lame ass technicality like that. Seriously that ball would have rolled out of the end zone on its own. No one from Detroit had a chance on it. These are things that are killing pro football to me.

It doesn't matter it's within 2 minutes. It should have been reviewed and overturned by the head official in NY.

[Hootie]

dude if they would have called that a penalty on Seattle and given the ball to Detroit on the 1/2 yard line ...

it would have been as bad as reversing the Calvin Johnson TD catch years ago to give the Bears the win because he "didn't complete the catch" that he clearly caught and made like 9 football moves with

that's one dumbass technicality of a rule ...

I'm so tired of this officiating bullshit. Commercials, review rules, and dipshit interpretations of rules (and WAY TOO MANY FUCKING PENALTIES) is RUINING the NFL.

I seriously slept through half of that game ... I didn't even watch a second of the NO/Dallas game ... and I skipped half of the Chiefs game.

If someone would have told me two years ago that I wouldn't have watched the SNF game, slept through half of the MNF game, and missed half of the Chiefs game I would have laughed and said, "yeah, ok!"

...welp, that's what is happening

I just don't care anymore. Once I can't watch Red Zone (no commercials), I just don't care. It just bores the fuck out of me. Every other play is a penalty and every 2 minutes they force 2:30 of commercials down my throat

I watched reruns of Breaking Bad and then Homeland last night instead of Dallas/NO. I didn't even know who won that game until I remembered to look at the score today around 2 PM

[tk13]

...whaaaaaaaat? LMAO

Comparing the AFC South during the Manning tenure to the AFC South during the Luck tenure thus far is HYSTERICAL

HYSTERICAL

That's like claiming the NFC West is still a joke because it was a joke of a division 5-10 years ago

lollllll

Yeah those were the glory days. You have me there. The always rebuilding Titans, the Jags who have had 3 winning seasons in the last 16 years, and the expansion Houston Texans. I'm honestly surprised Manning is still alive.

[NewChief]

The official just confused the matter even more.

[Dylan]

What is the betting line on the game?

TIA

[Rasputin]

LOL. He lost his train of thought and was all over the place.



psst
I think he is on cocaine.
In spoilers cuz I don't want him taking a hit out on me with his thugs.

[Hootie]

God damn shut up hootie. Because Megatron fumbled doesn't mean it's okay to not follow the rules if you're Seattle.

Relax, guy.

I don't care if you all hate Seattle. I don't really care about them, either. I don't care about Detroit, either. I just don't fucking care about football in general. Hell, I wish Detroit scored there so I could have been entertained by Russell trying to win the game down 4 with 2 timeouts and 90 seconds ... so honestly, I wish they would have called that bullshit technicality penalty.

I'm just saying that it's a dumb fucking rule. It's about as fucking dumb as the interpretation of a catch that knocked Dallas out of the playoffs last year.

and they are on ESPN right now and still have no fucking clue what the real rule is ... no one knows. Not Steve Young, not Ray Lewis, not some other guy on ESPN ... not Scott Van Pelt

Just a dumbass technicality. I don't want the officials to ever determine the outcome of the game. They do it far too much. Note to Lions fans complaining : don't fumble the ball there, and this wouldn't have happened.

[KCCHIEFS27]

dude if they would have called that a penalty on Seattle and given the ball to Detroit on the 1/2 yard line ...

it would have been as bad as reversing the Calvin Johnson TD catch years ago to give the Bears the win because he "didn't complete the catch" that he clearly caught and made like 9 football moves with

that's one dumbass technicality of a rule ...

I'm so tired of this officiating bullshit. Commercials, review rules, and dipshit interpretations of rules (and WAY TOO MANY ****ING PENALTIES) is RUINING the NFL.

I seriously slept through half of that game ... I didn't even watch a second of the NO/Dallas game ... and I skipped half of the Chiefs game.

If someone would have told me two years ago that I wouldn't have watched the SNF game, slept through half of the MNF game, and missed half of the Chiefs game I would have laughed and said, "yeah, ok!"

...welp, that's what is happening

I just don't care anymore. Once I can't watch Red Zone (no commercials), I just don't care. It just bores the **** out of me. Every other play is a penalty and every 2 minutes they force 2:30 of commercials down my throat

I watched reruns of Breaking Bad and then Homeland last night instead of Dallas/NO. I didn't even know who won that game until I remembered to look at the score today around 2 PM

Maybe you should watch rugby?

[NewChief]

This expert official's explanation is shedding a lot of light on the state of NFL officiating. His explanations are completely wonky about why its a safety for punter to kick it out and no flag gets thrown.

[Hootie]

What is the betting line on the game?

TIA

doesn't really matter ... Lions easily covered ... I guess anyone on the Lions money line got fucked but anyone betting the Lions money line was a fucking moron, anyways ... and even if CJ scored there is no saying Russell wouldn't have matched it and won, anyways ... he's only made an entire career out of doing just that

[GloryDayz]

Stunning. The NFL at its finest.

[cdcox]

It was a blatant bat. I wondered at the time if it was illegal. Refs totally blew this.

[New World Order]

What is the betting line on the game?

TIA



Seattle -10

[ClevelandBronco]

1. Not knowing the rule, I thought the batting of the ball was a really good play in the moment.

2. I don't like the rule.

3. The refs completely blew the call and screwed the pooch on Monday Night Football.

[Hootie]

This expert official's explanation is shedding a lot of light on the state of NFL officiating. His explanations are completely wonky about why its a safety for punter to kick it out and no flag gets thrown.

That's what I am saying. It's all 100% up to their interpretation of rules that have seemingly 50 interpretations.

I watched Maclin have a catch upheld in the Chiefs game where he was hit and didn't complete the catch while he ninja chucked the ball into his teammates on the sideline and thought to myself, "damn, that's going to get overturned." But nope, it was somehow upheld as a catch. But then in the NFC playoffs Dez clearly caught the ball, and then tried to reach out and score a TD in another motion, saw the ball pop loose because of the turf ... and suddenly that's not a catch.

I mean ... omg. It's baffling.

[BlackOp]

That's worse than the Charles fumble...how many times can the officials **** over the lions?

[tk13]

If this is the rule, it's pretty clear cut. You can't bat any ball in the endzone.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The illegal batting rule from the NFL rule book <a href="http://t.co/73gnn21MjP">pic.twitter.com/73gnn21MjP</a></p>&mdash; Matthew B. Mowery (@matthewbmowery) <a href="https://twitter.com/matthewbmowery/status/651240452931354624">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Hootie]

I just think it's hilarious that you guys are so outraged by this ...

Calvin fumbles the ball into the end zone ... no one is within 5 yards of KJ Wright and the ball would have simply rolled out of the end zone but instead the defender made a "heads up" play (at least I thought) and just assisted it out of the end zone ...

but since there is some dumbass technicality in the NFL rule book ... now the NFL is a huge fucking sham and it's a huge fucking embarrassment somehow because of another dumb rule in the dumbest rule book in sports

hilarious outrage right now ... and let it be known ONCE AGAIN ... I had stated earlier I wished the Lions scored there because I wanted to see Russell in one of his patented 2 minute drills ... that would have been exciting

[KCCHIEFS27]

This expert official's explanation is shedding a lot of light on the state of NFL officiating. His explanations are completely wonky about why its a safety for punter to kick it out and no flag gets thrown.

To get super technical, the rule doesn't say anything about kicking. Only batting and punching. Haha

[ClevelandBronco]

I just think it's hilarious that you guys are so outraged by this ...

Calvin fumbles the ball into the end zone ... no one is within 5 yards of KJ Wright and the ball would have simply rolled out of the end zone but instead the defender made a "heads up" play (at least I thought) and just assisted it out of the end zone ...

but since there is some dumbass technicality in the NFL rule book ... now the NFL is a huge ****ing sham and it's a huge ****ing embarrassment somehow because of another dumb rule in the dumbest rule book in sports

hilarious outrage right now ... and let it be known ONCE AGAIN ... I had stated earlier I wished the Lions scored there because I wanted to see Russell in one of his patented 2 minute drills ... that would have been exciting

You seem to be the only one who's passionate about it one way or the other. Calm down. It's almost bedtime.

[Hootie]

I won't be done with the NFL because I like fantasy and I also like gambling ... but god damn this shit is tiring

dumb rule book
terrible product these days
too commercialized
too many penalties
too many garbage penalties
ridiculous reviews
too many interpretations to ridiculous reviews

outrage at every corner

the game just frustrates me now

too many illegal contacts
too many defensive holdings

just pure garbage

if fantasy football and gambling disappeared from the face of the universe no one would watch this shit

[cdcox]

I guarantee this will be the last time the NFL trots out Jerry to answer questions about a controversial call. He just keeps saying stuff that is making the situation worse.

[Dylan]

by the way ... a ton of people on ESPN who played pro ball are saying they have never seen that call called ever ...

When it comes to intelligence off the field, ESPN talking heads and ex-footballers are not known for their briefcase skills. :D

[GloryDayz]

Odd, no Lions being interviewed.

[Hootie]

You seem to be the only one who's passionate about it one way or the other. Calm down. It's almost bedtime.

I'm passionate because this is pretty ridiculous

trying to think of a good metaphor

it's like being charged for illegally sending child porn of yourself because you're 17 to your 16 year old girlfriend

no one is within 5 yards of Wright and he thought he was making a heads up play and instead it is now pure outrage ... where in context he could have just let the ball go out of bounds or he could have tried to grab it, muff it, and watch it go out of bounds anyways and still see it be a safety

but instead the Lions got robbed because once again there is a dipshit rule in the NFL's dipshit rule book

[GloryDayz]

I guarantee this will be the last time the NFL trots out Jerry to answer questions about a controversial call. He just keeps saying stuff that is making the situation worse.
If they ask him to dress-up like Vince Foster, he should run.

[ClevelandBronco]

I'm passionate because this is pretty ridiculous

trying to think of a good metaphor

it's like being charged for illegally sending child porn of yourself because you're 17 to your 16 year old girlfriend

no one is within 5 yards of Wright and he thought he was making a heads up play and instead it is now pure outrage ... where in context he could have just let the ball go out of bounds or he could have tried to grab it, muff it, and watch it go out of bounds anyways and still see it be a safety

but instead the Lions got robbed because once again there is a dipshit rule in the NFL's dipshit rule book

No, it's a lot more like the refs blew a call.

[Hootie]

Odd, no Lions being interviewed.

"Hey Calvin, how do you feel about being jobbed by the officials?"

I'M JUST OUTRAGED! I CAN'T BELIEVE I FUMBLED THE BALL INTO THE END ZONE BECAUSE I TRIED TO MAKE A HERO PLAY AND THE SEATTLE DEFENDER MADE A SMART PLAY TO JUST ASSIST IT OUT OF THE END ZONE AND WE WEREN'T INSTEAD GIFTED THE BALL 1ST AND GOAL FROM THE 1/2 YARD LINE!

JUST OUTRAGED! THE NFL IS OUT TO GET ME!

[ClevelandBronco]

Is he like this all the time?

[BlackOp]

I just think it's hilarious that you guys are so outraged by this ...

Calvin fumbles the ball into the end zone ... no one is within 5 yards of KJ Wright and the ball would have simply rolled out of the end zone but instead the defender made a "heads up" play (at least I thought) and just assisted it out of the end zone ...

but since there is some dumbass technicality in the NFL rule book ... now the NFL is a huge ****ing sham and it's a huge ****ing embarrassment somehow because of another dumb rule in the dumbest rule book in sports

hilarious outrage right now ... and let it be known ONCE AGAIN ... I had stated earlier I wished the Lions scored there because I wanted to see Russell in one of his patented 2 minute drills ... that would have been exciting
You cant bend the rules to how you like them..the guy reached out and hit the ball. Detroit got ****ed...

I'm outraged the head of officiating still has a job after being photographed on the Dallas "bootybus"...that is a conflict of interest/integrity. That one act makes me question if the NFL is legit at all...or just a bunch of billionaires gaming the ignorant public. I'm sick of that team getting ****ed over...they got robbed 5 games ago against Dallas.

[eDave]

Is he like this all the time?

Hootie? Yes.

[stevieray]

I agree their division is terrible. But you're the one being the hypocrite. Peyton Manning spent most of his career beating up that division, and you've made a living here saying he's the greatest. Luck does it, it's a knock against him. That's absurd. The only competition Manning ever had in that division was McNair, and the Titans weren't any good after 2003 because they gutted the team due to salary cap problems.
Same reason he came to the AFC West, IMO. Easiest to dominate.

[ClevelandBronco]

Hootie? Yes.

He must exhaust himself.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I just think it's hilarious that you guys are so outraged by this ...

Calvin fumbles the ball into the end zone ... no one is within 5 yards of KJ Wright and the ball would have simply rolled out of the end zone but instead the defender made a "heads up" play (at least I thought) and just assisted it out of the end zone ...

but since there is some dumbass technicality in the NFL rule book ... now the NFL is a huge fucking sham and it's a huge fucking embarrassment somehow because of another dumb rule in the dumbest rule book in sports

hilarious outrage right now ... and let it be known ONCE AGAIN ... I had stated earlier I wished the Lions scored there because I wanted to see Russell in one of his patented 2 minute drills ... that would have been exciting

You're wrong here. Don't like the rules, hit up the rules committee.

[Hootie]

No, it's a lot more like the refs blew a call.

Yep. It is clear they blew the call. I can't argue that because you are right. I just read the rule. I know this. That's really not my point.

I wish the NFL would have also blew the call on the 4th and 2 Dez Bryant TD catch (I mean drop) last year, too. Because he caught that ball and made one of the clutchest plays in NFL history only to see the NFL not blow that call and rule it incomplete because another way a dipshit NFL rule is worded in the rule book.

So you're right. The refs blew the call tonight. But IMO, that blown call was the right fucking call because had the Seattle defender not try and make a smart play Seattle still wins because no Detroit player had any chance whatsoever of recovering that ball. There were two outcomes. Wright picks up the ball and just continues his momentum out of the end zone for a safety...or Wright muffs the ball and it goes out of bounds for a safety. So unless Wright decided to bicycle kick the ball back to Detroit Calvin fumbled the game away ...

you know, unless you learn after the game they broke rule 1212302132180321082132183821 A in the NFL rule book stating you can't make a smart defensive play at the end of a game when a receiver fumbles the ball into the end zone

[ThaVirus]

Is he like this all the time?

Yeah, I've always felt that way, I just never said it as frequently as Hoot. You know he likes to state things 20 times in a row in every related thread to get his point across.

Hah.

I posted this earlier tonight.

[NewChief]

You cant bend the rules to how you like them..the guy reached out and hit the ball. Detroit got ****ed...

I'm outraged the head of officiating still has a job after being photographed on the the Dallas "bootybus"

Agreed. If the rule sucks, then change it. If it's a rule, though, follow it consistently.

[Hootie]

LMAO

Again, I'm not arguing the rule. I'm not. It's clearly a rule. I read it.

I'm arguing why it's a fucking rule. It's stupid. It's as dumb as the NFL correctly ruling against the Dez catch last year.

I'm sorry ... I'm a Chiefs fan. I also saw the Chiefs win a game because Rudd threw his helmet off in a game the Chiefs "lost" which turned into a personal foul which turned into a FG and a Chiefs win. Yay for the Chiefs ... but come on ... they didn't deserve that win.

I'm not big on 'technicality' wins. Calvin fumbled the game away. Wright made a smart play (so everyone thought). Rule 1203821302183210382102138210823A dash 38430884320083284328323208340833B clearly shows Detroit should have gotten the ball back on the 1/2 yard line. Cool. Stupid nonetheless.

[ClevelandBronco]

Yep. It is clear they blew the call. I can't argue that because you are right. I just read the rule. I know this. That's really not my point.

I wish the NFL would have also blew the call on the 4th and 2 Dez Bryant TD catch (I mean drop) last year, too. Because he caught that ball and made one of the clutchest plays in NFL history only to see the NFL not blow that call and rule it incomplete because another way a dipshit NFL rule is worded in the rule book.

So you're right. The refs blew the call tonight. But IMO, that blown call was the right ****ing call because had the Seattle defender not try and make a smart play Seattle still wins because no Detroit player had any chance whatsoever of recovering that ball. There were two outcomes. Wright picks up the ball and just continues his momentum out of the end zone for a safety...or Wright muffs the ball and it goes out of bounds for a safety. So unless Wright decided to bicycle kick the ball back to Detroit Calvin fumbled the game away ...

you know, unless you learn after the game they broke rule 1212302132180321082132183821 A in the NFL rule book stating you can't make a smart defensive play at the end of a game when a receiver fumbles the ball into the end zone

Yeah, I thought Dez made the catch and I don't like this rule. Neither of those things matter, but I get it.

[NewChief]

But Wright actually didn't make a smart play. He made an illegal play. The actual smart play would have been to fall on the ball, not bat it.

[BryanBusby]

Is he like this all the time?
Idk why people lobbied so hard for his ban to be reversed

The league has gone full tilt enforcing moon rules and now they ignore one with clear interpretation.

Their insistence of being cheap as hell and refusing to employ fulltime refs is totally on them. They deserve every bit of bad pr.

[tk13]

The sad thing is that could be a season altering call. Detroit is 0-4 and definitely toast now. Seattle, if they couldn't get a TD... would be 1-3 having to face Cincy on the road, followed by the 4-0 Panthers.

[GloryDayz]

"Hey Calvin, how do you feel about being jobbed by the officials?"

I'M JUST OUTRAGED! I CAN'T BELIEVE I FUMBLED THE BALL INTO THE END ZONE BECAUSE I TRIED TO MAKE A HERO PLAY AND THE SEATTLE DEFENDER MADE A SMART PLAY TO JUST ASSIST IT OUT OF THE END ZONE AND WE WEREN'T INSTEAD GIFTED THE BALL 1ST AND GOAL FROM THE 1/2 YARD LINE!

JUST OUTRAGED! THE NFL IS OUT TO GET ME!
Your caps is stuck...

[ClevelandBronco]

But Wright actually didn't make a smart play. He made an illegal play. The actual smart play would have been to fall on the ball, not bat it.

That's the thing. I thought at the time, "Damn, that was really smart, batting the ball out of the end zone like that." Turns out, no, it was really dumb.

I still support cheating, but I can't support playing dumb.

[GloryDayz]

Yep. It is clear they blew the call. I can't argue that because you are right. I just read the rule. I know this. That's really not my point.

I wish the NFL would have also blew the call on the 4th and 2 Dez Bryant TD catch (I mean drop) last year, too. Because he caught that ball and made one of the clutchest plays in NFL history only to see the NFL not blow that call and rule it incomplete because another way a dipshit NFL rule is worded in the rule book.

So you're right. The refs blew the call tonight. But IMO, that blown call was the right fucking call because had the Seattle defender not try and make a smart play Seattle still wins because no Detroit player had any chance whatsoever of recovering that ball. There were two outcomes. Wright picks up the ball and just continues his momentum out of the end zone for a safety...or Wright muffs the ball and it goes out of bounds for a safety. So unless Wright decided to bicycle kick the ball back to Detroit Calvin fumbled the game away ...

you know, unless you learn after the game they broke rule 1212302132180321082132183821 A in the NFL rule book stating you can't make a smart defensive play at the end of a game when a receiver fumbles the ball into the end zone
You're being dramatic.

[Hootie]

But Wright actually didn't make a smart play. He made an illegal play. The actual smart play would have been to fall on the ball, not bat it.

Yeah, I guess everyone in the world realizes that now. And that's not what I'm arguing. But I disagree with you. It was a smart play. You really expect all 2000+ NFL players to know that ridiculous rule in the NFL's ridiculous rule book? Dude made a lightning fast decision on a play and as someone who didn't know that rule (as well as a lot of other people who played professional football apparently) I thought, damn ... nice heads up play by Wright.

Instead, we learn he broke a rule.

So Detroit should have gotten the ball back. And they would have probably scored. All on a dipshit technicality.

So you know what? I personally am happy they blew the call. Because they did. They flat out blew it. Clearly. I read it. I can't even argue that.

I wish they would have blown the call last year in the Dallas/Green Bay playoff game where Dez "didn't catch the ball." They got that one right, though. Good for them. I guess.

I realize everyone loves arguing with me but I just don't understand why everyone is so appalled the NFL missed a call on a play where Calvin fumbled the ball out of the end zone.

You really think Detroit deserved to possess the ball there because of a technicality? I swear on my fucking life that if Charles fumbled the ball out of the end zone there and the same thing happened to the Chiefs I couldn't even be mad about the call being missed. I don't think technicalities should determine football games.

Was I happy 15 years ago when the Browns got fucked against the Chiefs? Sure. I'll take a technicality win ... but if the officials missed him throwing his helmet before the play was over would I have sworn off the NFL for missing a bullshit technicality penalty? Uhm, no, probably not ... because none of us would have ever known that was even a thing.

I mean, I'm totally not against common sense being applied to the NFL rule book ... because this black/white stuff is just bullshit.

Detroit should have gotten the ball back there, I guess ... but they didn't deserve it ... so I am glad the call was blown.

[tk13]

I don't think the rule itself is that crazy. The funny thing is if they called it a TD, the Lions would've lost the ball on the review. They could change it to a fumble but couldn't call the illegal bat. That's a problem.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Even if they had ruled TD, replay could have reversed it to a fumble but could not have added an illegal bat. Batting in not reviewable.</p>&mdash; Mike Pereira (@MikePereira) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikePereira/status/651248032462340097">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Hootie]

Idk why people lobbied so hard for his ban to be reversed

The league has gone full tilt enforcing moon rules and now they ignore one with clear interpretation.

Their insistence of being cheap as hell and refusing to employ fulltime refs is totally on them. They deserve every bit of bad pr.

LMAO

so I should be re-banned because I disagree with the board on a technicality rule

hahaha

I'm so sorry.

Jesus.

[stevieray]

The sad thing is that could be a season altering call.
Not surprised.

Reminds me of the flag that gave the donks fresh set of downs for the tying TD at the opener.

Four games in, more flags than ever.

[cdcox]

Not an intentional bat? Really Mr. Back Judge? Is that the story you are going with? C'mon man! No one is going to believe that.

[BlackOp]

Whats worse is they all have wireless communication....to think that NONE of them knew the rule is retarded.

Seattle is more popular than Detroit..face it. Ad revenue owns the NFL now.

I'm starting to hate the NFL..more than I already did.

[BryanBusby]

LMAO

so I should be re-banned because I disagree with the board on a technicality rule

hahaha

I'm so sorry.

Jesus.
You're a shit poster that shouldn't have been unbanned.

[Hootie]

That's the thing. I thought at the time, "Damn, that was really smart, batting the ball out of the end zone like that." Turns out, no, it was really dumb.

I still support cheating, but I can't support playing dumb.

that's the thing ... you, me and millions of other people who were watching thought, "damn, smart play."

But instead it was dumb.

To me, that's pretty fucking dumb, and you can't expect every player in the NFL to know every ridiculous rule in that ridiculous rule book.

Someone explain to me how Maclin's "catch" was ruled a catch this past week but Dez's catch was ruled "not a catch" last year in the playoffs.

Granted, I watched the Maclin catch on my phone but I thought immediately, "damn, they won't uphold that." They not only upheld it, they confirmed it.

This shit just baffles me.

[Hootie]

You're a shit poster that shouldn't have been unbanned.

thank God for the ignore function, right? I invite you to ignore me and I'll do the same for you. You're welcome.

[ClevelandBronco]

I realize everyone loves arguing with me but I just don't understand why everyone is so appalled the NFL missed a call on a play where Calvin fumbled the ball out of the end zone.

There you go again. Not a single person here seems appalled except for the guy screaming in all caps. And Megatron fumbled into the end zone, not out of it.

[NewChief]

The technicality and deserve argument doesn't hold water here. I mean, great plays get negated and called back on penalties away from the play constantly. Those are really "technicalities" as well. The reason for the rule, I would guess is to encourage a decisive scrum for possession in the end zone. Think if he'd fallen on the ball, it had squirted out and back into Johnson's outstretched hands. That would be drama. Isn't totally removing the ball from the field of play goes against the spirit of the game. At least I would assume that's the reason for the rule. It's probsbly outdated and needs to be changed but that's a whole other matter.

[Hootie]

Whats worse is they all have wireless communication....to think that NONE of them knew the rule is retarded.

Seattle is more popular than Detroit..face it. Ad revenue owns the NFL now.

I'm starting to hate the NFL..more than I already did.

Ha ha ha ha ha

Seattle is more popular because they have a better team. 5 years ago during the Megatron/Stafford boom who was more popular?

The truth is ... the officials didn't call a penalty because they didn't see any blatant violation on the field.

AGAIN

THEY CLEARLY BOTCHED THE CALL

I'm not arguing that.

I'm arguing why in the fuck that is in the rule book. That's it. That's all. That's my debate.

This new spin where the NFL didn't call it because they wanted Seattle to win is hilarious. Give me a break.

[stevieray]

that's the thing ... you, me and millions of other people who were watching thought, "damn, smart play."

But instead it was dumb.

To me, that's pretty ****ing dumb, and you can't expect every player in the NFL to know every ridiculous rule in that ridiculous rule book.

Someone explain to me how Maclin's "catch" was ruled a catch this past week but Dez's catch was ruled "not a catch" last year in the playoffs.

Granted, I watched the Maclin catch on my phone but I thought immediately, "damn, they won't uphold that." They not only upheld it, they confirmed it.

This shit just baffles me.
Because he caught the ball and established himself as a runner. They said as much in the broadcast.

[ClevelandBronco]

that's the thing ... you, me and millions of other people who were watching thought, "damn, smart play."

But instead it was dumb.

To me, that's pretty ****ing dumb, and you can't expect every player in the NFL to know every ridiculous rule in that ridiculous rule book.

Someone explain to me how Maclin's "catch" was ruled a catch this past week but Dez's catch was ruled "not a catch" last year in the playoffs.

Granted, I watched the Maclin catch on my phone but I thought immediately, "damn, they won't uphold that." They not only upheld it, they confirmed it.

This shit just baffles me.

I don't expect every player to know the rule. I do, however, expect every ref to know it and call it when he sees it happen.

[eDave]

that's the thing ... you, me and millions of other people who were watching thought, "damn, smart play."

But instead it was dumb.

To me, that's pretty fucking dumb, and you can't expect every player in the NFL to know every ridiculous rule in that ridiculous rule book.

Someone explain to me how Maclin's "catch" was ruled a catch this past week but Dez's catch was ruled "not a catch" last year in the playoffs.

Granted, I watched the Maclin catch on my phone but I thought immediately, "damn, they won't uphold that." They not only upheld it, they confirmed it.

This shit just baffles me.


For what it is worth, when I saw the play live, I thought it looked 'odd'. Like not allowed. I had never heard of the rule before.

But think about it, you can't help the ball go out of bounds in any sport (IIRC)

[Dylan]

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 7m7 minutes ago

Tirico just said they talked to Dean Blandino, who agreed it should've been an illegal bat and remained Lions ball.

Why did Blandino not change it? The back judge was staring right at it. Why not get together and make he correction?



New York Newspapers - This from the New York Post after a Dallas win over the Giants in Sept:

NFL ADMITS OFFICIALS BOTCHED TWO CALLS IN DALLAS GAME
The NFL has acknowledged that officials made two game-altering mistakes during the New York Giants 27-26 loss to the Dallas Cowboys last Sunday night. The first was a bogus pass interference call on cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromarties on a 3rd-and-4 incomplete pass that directly led to a Cowboys touchdown in the third quarter.

Worse, the officials did not call an obvious holding penalty by a Dallas defensive back against tight end Daniel Fells on the now infamous 3rd-and-goal incomplete pass by quarterback Eli Manning with 1:43 to play. If that flag had been thrown, the Giants could have simply knelt on the ball and run out the clock, winning 26-20.

[ShutUpJunior]

LMAO

so I should be re-banned because I disagree with the board on a technicality rule

hahaha

I'm so sorry.

Jesus.


Probably because you are going overboard defending the refs not knowing the rules. They failed at their job and likely ended the Lions season. Someone in an office job has a failure on that level, they are in the unemployment line the following day.

[Hootie]

I'm only appalled because everyone seems so appalled by a really fucking stupid rule and now assume the NFL, once again, is rigged. It just gets old. Hell, NFL players and former NFL players didn't even know the rule. Hell, both SVP and Stanford Steve are both saying, "meh, we didn't really know the rule, either. We thought maybe?"

It was a fluke play and the officials botched it. But I am not going to be up in arms about a team being fucked because they didn't get a ball back they had no business getting back if the defender didn't commit a penalty no one really knew existed or how to be called correctly.

Hell that old guy on ESPN after the game gave us 18 different interpretations including one where he said, "it was going to be a safety no matter what but Detroit would have gotten the ball back and blah blah blah" to the point where ESPN had to cut him off because he just confused the fuck out of everyone on screen

[tk13]

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[Hootie]

Because he caught the ball and established himself as a runner. They said as much in the broadcast.

yeah, I guess ... I'd love to see a .gif of that and compare it to the .gif of Dez's "non-catch" last year and then debate which one seemed to be more of a catch

[srvy]

This expert official's explanation is shedding a lot of light on the state of NFL officiating. His explanations are completely wonky about why its a safety for punter to kick it out and no flag gets thrown.

He did explain it i thought. Punter of QB punching it out the endzone is not a change of possession you take the safety and punt away. It still is a dumb rule and I cant wait for the league explanation for why the rule is even in the books. Usually its a game in the past that forced a rule change but this is a new on on me.