So 2016 Draft - who would be available

[DenverChief]

@ 1.1 thru 1.5?

I'm all ears for solutions.

[DaNewGuy]

Some fatty from the MAC

[TribalElder]

Eric Fishers Cousin Alex

[chiefzilla1501]

There are lots of QBs that would fall to us in the first no matter where we draft.

But I'm done thinking the Chiefs would ever go down that path.

[scho63]

Eric Fishers Cousin Alex

I thought his cousin was AnalFisher :hmmm:

[Rausch]

We'll work through that.

What we do know is what's currently running the show isn't working...

[DenverChief]

We'll work through that.

What we do know is what's currently running the show isn't working...

I'm still willing to give Andy and Doesey a lot of leeway. After the debacle of Pioli they can only do better. That being said I think the rest of this season needs to be about finding what does work (Murray/Bray and the rest of the young guys) and less about starting high payed pieces of crap.

[KChiefs1]

QB from Cal is supposed to be good.

[GloucesterChief]

I'm still willing to give Andy and Doesey a lot of leeway. After the debacle of Pioli they can only do better. That being said I think the rest of this season needs to be about finding what does work (Murray/Bray and the rest of the young guys) and less about starting high payed pieces of crap.

Dorsey's first round picks have not been stellar at all.

Fisher & Ford. Peters looks like he will work out but going 1/3 is not a good sign.

[DenverChief]

Dorsey's first round picks have not been stellar at all.

Fisher & Ford. Peters looks like he will work out but going 1/3 is not a good sign.

What was CP's track record? 20 years and D. Thomas, Tony G, Tait, DJ, Tama and Brandon Albert.

6 good players in 20 years.

[NJChiefsFan]

Dorsey's first round picks have not been stellar at all.

Fisher & Ford. Peters looks like he will work out but going 1/3 is not a good sign.

Dorsey is not my issue. He hasn't been perfect but I think he has made a lot of good decisions. The question/problem is how much power he has versus Reid. Dorsey's biggest mistake and only QB he realistically passed on is Bridgewater. He hasn't handled the Oline well either but I still don't have major issues with him.

Reid on the other hand is worse than I even feared he would be. Smith is what I feared he was.

[GloucesterChief]

What was CP's track record? 20 years and D. Thomas, Tony G, Tait, DJ, Tama and Brandon Albert.

6 good players in 20 years.

If Dorsey only hits 1 out of every three. He shouldn't be here for 20 years. 5 at max.

[New World Order]

Dorsey is not my issue. He hasn't been perfect but I think he has made a lot of good decisions. The question/problem is how much power he has versus Reid. Dorsey's biggest mistake and only QB he realistically passed on is Bridgewater. He hasn't handled the Oline well either but I still don't have major issues with him.

Reid on the other hand is worse than I even feared he would be. Smith is what I feared he was.


Dorsey must go.

[DenverChief]

Dorsey's first round picks have not been stellar at all.

Fisher & Ford. Peters looks like he will work out but going 1/3 is not a good sign.

After DT:

Percy Snow - Bust
Harvey Williams - Bust
Dale Carter - debatable
Greg Hill - bust
Trezelle Jenkins - Bust


5 years of garbage.

[GloucesterChief]

After DT:

Percy Snow - Bust
Harvey Williams - Bust
Dale Carter - debatable
Greg Hill - bust
Trezelle Jenkins - Bust


5 years of garbage.

and Peterson should of been shown the door. Lamar was far too loyal.

[Dayze]

The Chiefs will never draft a QB before round 3.



Ever.

[DenverChief]

and Peterson should of been shown the door. Lamar was far too loyal.

Without CP after those picks we likely would have never seen Tony G, Dick Vermiel, Trent Green, Priest Holmes, DJ, Tamba, Tait. He did a lot of good for this franchise even though we never made it to the big dance under his tenure.

[jonzie04]

QB Goff
QB Cook
4-3 End/ possible 3-4 end Bosa
Interior DL Nkdemiche
CB Hargreaves
S/CB Ramsey
Tackles Tunsil, and Stanley

Those are likely the top guys at this point in time.

Goff looked horrible yesterday, but he's still likely the best QB in this class, after him and Cook theres not a whole lot of difference between the next few guys.

To be honest if we can't get Goff I'd trade down. Maybe pick up a first next year and a second this year.

Then I'd Aim for maybe Jaylon Smith in the first, And Hackenberg, and Doctson in the second.

Or if Cook is there I'd take him in the first, And I'd aim for Myles Jack, and A tackle prospect in the second.

[Saul Good]

After DT:

Percy Snow - Bust
Harvey Williams - Bust
Dale Carter - debatable
Greg Hill - bust
Trezelle Jenkins - Bust


5 years of garbage.

Dale Carter debatable? That guy was the second best CB in the game for several years behind only Deion Sanders. Most of Peterson's picks were late first round.

[Saul Good]

QB Goff
QB Cook
4-3 End/ possible 3-4 end Bosa
Interior DL Nkdemiche
CB Hargreaves
S/CB Ramsey
Tackles Tunsil, and Stanley

Those are likely the top guys at this point in time.

Goff looked horrible yesterday, but he's still likely the best QB in this class, after him and Cook theres not a whole lot of difference between the next few guys.

To be honest if we can't get Goff I'd trade down. Maybe pick up a first next year and a second this year.

Then I'd Aim for maybe Jaylon Smith in the first, And Hackenberg, and Doctson in the second.

Or if Cook is there I'd take him in the first, And I'd aim for Myles Jack, and A tackle prospect in the second.

Hackenberg? That guy is terrible.

[DenverChief]

Dale Carter debatable? That guy was the second best CB in the game for several years behind only Deion Sanders. Most of Peterson's picks were late first round.

Off the field problems, only played 5 years for the Chiefs before bouncing around the league playing for 5 different teams in 6 years.

[jonzie04]

Hackenberg? That guy is terrible.

Not a huge fan of his game, but he is a solid developmental prospect. There aren't a lot of QB prospects in this class beyond Goff and Cook. Hack, Cardale, Wentz, and Boykin are as good as it gets. The last 4 are all Developmental guys. And Cook, and Goff could both really benefit from a year on the bench.

[DenverChief]

QB Goff
QB Cook
4-3 End/ possible 3-4 end Bosa
Interior DL Nkdemiche
CB Hargreaves
S/CB Ramsey
Tackles Tunsil, and Stanley

Those are likely the top guys at this point in time.

Goff looked horrible yesterday, but he's still likely the best QB in this class, after him and Cook theres not a whole lot of difference between the next few guys.

To be honest if we can't get Goff I'd trade down. Maybe pick up a first next year and a second this year.

Then I'd Aim for maybe Jaylon Smith in the first, And Hackenberg, and Doctson in the second.

Or if Cook is there I'd take him in the first, And I'd aim for Myles Jack, and A tackle prospect in the second.


Who is this Goff fellow? I din't really follow College FB too closely

[Saul Good]

Off the field problems, only played 5 years for the Chiefs before bouncing around the league playing for 5 different teams in 6 years.

WTF are you talking about? He played 7 years in Kansas City. He was the DROTY and went to the pro Bowl 4 times.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Drafting another QB to join our bench doesn't create an elite QB. The fact is we have to trade Chase if we are hopeful on Murray and let the Smith contract phase out before we consider spending round 1-3 picks on a QB

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

James and Kelce can hold down the TE spot. Maclin needs a WR2 to help him out unless Conley develops confidence this season to be the guy. If we shore up the OL with another Morse type pick, we can continue to build on this improving line. Stephenson is so inconsistent that I'm thinking he is gone after this season. ILB in free agency or round 2.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Who is this Goff fellow? I din't really follow College FB too closely

Some dude who just threw 5 picks against Utah last night.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Dorsey is not my issue. He hasn't been perfect but I think he has made a lot of good decisions. The question/problem is how much power he has versus Reid. Dorsey's biggest mistake and only QB he realistically passed on is Bridgewater. He hasn't handled the Oline well either but I still don't have major issues with him.

Reid on the other hand is worse than I even feared he would be. Smith is what I feared he was.

This. It's time for Dorsey to bang the table, purge vaginas, and pull that trigger.

I could sit here and have preference for Cook over Goff over Hackenburg, but I no longer fucking care. ANY of those youngsters is the correct move now.

[jonzie04]

Who is this Goff fellow? I din't really follow College FB too closely

The kid from Cal, who most "draft experts" consider to be the best QB in the class. The kid who 7 NFL GM's compared to Matt Ryan... And yes as blackbob mentioned. The kid who threw 5 picks last night.

[DaNewGuy]

As a Penn State fan I like Hackenberg. Not 1st overall or anything but I think he could be a solid NFL Starting QB

[Discuss Thrower]

Just about any position would be worth it of its not a bust barring an RB in the first.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

As a Penn State fan I like Hackenberg. Not 1st overall or anything but I think he could be a solid NFL Starting QB

They all 3 have strengths. I would be happy with any of them. Chiefs football would actually be interesting though maybe not successful right off the bat.

[Munson]

Prepare your anus for a 1st round OL.

[Discuss Thrower]

Prepare your anus for a 1st round OL.

That's almost a guarantee.

[TLO]

Not sure I even care.

[Ming the Merciless]

how about a left tackle we draft 1st overall and then move to another position and then back to left tackle and then back to another position


because we are the chiefs

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If he's from Cal maybe he's the 2nd coming of Rodgers...that'll give a lot of anti-Smith people on here a real hard one

[Strongside]

Connor fucking Cook. Do it.

[oaklandhater]

Connor ****ing Cook. Do it.

This even if the Chiefs have to keep smith for one more year I want Conner ****ing cook there on the bench looking smith right in the damm eyes

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Connor fucking Cook. Do it.

This even if the Chiefs have to keep smith for one more year I want Conner ****ing cook there on the bench looking smith right in the damm eyes

I am a Cook Man, and proud of it.

[ILChief]

Goff or Cook

[RealSNR]

Drafting another QB to join our bench doesn't create an elite QB. The fact is we have to trade Chase if we are hopeful on Murray and let the Smith contract phase out before we consider spending round 1-3 picks on a QB

Wanna know how I know you're a dumbass?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

So, who's ready to eat some dead ReidSmith money, extend Chase, and draft a QB?

Show of hands, please?

And remember, Pederson called the plays in preseason.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Bray

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

When Cook, Goff, Hack, or Doinkin' head to the podium to grab that red jersey, I command that you blast the following number at high volume:

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I also command that all Mods wear pimp capes on this day.

[Strongside]

Bray

That dream is dead bro. Let it go. It's time.

[oaklandhater]

I am a Cook Man, and proud of it.

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I'm cook sexual

[oaklandhater]

That dream is dead bro. Let it go. It's time.

As long as he is not asking for Smith any body is a step in the right direction.

[Strongside]

https://youtu.be/qsGHAEUwvRc

I'm cook sexual

Shit man. I was gonna reuse these underwear tomorrow.

[DenverChief]

WTF are you talking about? He played 7 years in Kansas City. He was the DROTY and went to the pro Bowl 4 times.

My bad. I was spitballing it but since you asked

http://extras.denverpost.com/scolumns/paige0402.htm

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

https://youtu.be/qsGHAEUwvRc

I'm cook sexual

"Baby, let me take you places":

http://media2.newsnet5.com/photo/2014/01/01/Connor%20Cook_1388637507618_1742662_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

[oaklandhater]

The funny thing about drafting a QB is the chiefs fan base might be the most patient when it comes for waiting for a QB to develop that's what going from Cassell to Smith will do to you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The funny thing about drafting a QB is the chiefs fan base might be the most patient when it comes for waiting for a QB to develop that's what going from Cassell to Smith will do to you.

If I were running this show, I'd send Reid packing, make sure that Pederson stays and calls plays, find a HC who fits my personal philosophy of toughness and accountability, send Sutton to the glue factory, shit-can Smith, keep Daniel, draft a QB, and begin developing him, letting Murray and the n00b battle it out for the 2nd roster spot.

But hey, I'm just a fucking retard fan; what could I possibly know?

[rtmike]

WTF are you talking about? He played 7 years in Kansas City. He was the DROTY and went to the pro Bowl 4 times.

I think Carter was just as dominant as Sanders. I remember watching him line up wide as a WR & IIRC even caught a TD that day up in the Dome.

His off the field behavior didn't get out of hand until he signed with Denver I thought. Pretty sure he respected Hasty & the crew while here.

Just 3-4 years ago, the core of the team and still several players left, were drafted by CP/Herm & that dude from New Orleans, Kuhlarich (sp?)