Deadspin Article Releases Photos and Testimony of Greg Hardy's Abuse

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You can follow the link here:

http://deadspin.com/this-is-why-nfl-star-greg-hardy-was-arrested-for-assaul-1739117634

It includes a slideshow of the victim's injuries and two of Hardy. It's horrific.

Here is a scan of some of her testimony:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s---FlLKhgH--/1507240383941938760.png

[MMXcalibur]

Jerry Jones: Don't caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare....

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Wow...just wow

[rabblerouser]

Boy that a future Raider Dlineman if I ever saw one...

[The Franchise]

He's a worthless piece of shit.

And this just proves that Jerry Jones doesn't deserve to own a football team.

[CaliforniaChief]

1. How is he a free man?
2. How is he not suspended indefinitely?
3. How is he actually employed and paid handsomely?

It's a shame. A real shame.

[Eleazar]

Roger sees no problem with this.

[ChiliConCarnage]

1. How is he a free man?
2. How is he not suspended indefinitely?
3. How is he actually employed and paid handsomely?

It's a shame. A real shame.

We already knew he did this as he was found guilty in court based on the evidence. He's a free man because he's rich and can pay the defendant to not show up to an appeal.

[Eleazar]

Btw if you are nervous to look at a "graphic" gallery, it's not graphic at all. It's just photos of some bruises.

[tk13]

Roger sees no problem with this.

We just had an entire month where everyone wore pink! We care! Buy more merchandise!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

1. How is he a free man?
2. How is he not suspended indefinitely?
3. How is he actually employed and paid handsomely?

It's a shame. A real shame.

$$$$$$$ and Jerruh

[O.city]

He can sack the qb at an elite level.

When you're elite at something, this tends to be treatment you can get

[Brock]

Your move, roger

[ChiTown]

Wow, shocking. :rolleyes:

The NFL and RG cover up shit all the time. They are soul-less POS

[Bewbies]

Leave the guy alone. He's a real leader.

[Why Not?]

Leave the guy alone. He's a real leader.

Lol. And he can help the Cowboys win games(0-4 with him, I think)!

[PunkinDrublic]

I've listened to Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett make excuse after excuse for Greg Hardy it's fucking sickening. Hell they gave average at best running back Joseph Randall chance after chance before they finally released him this week.

[ClevelandBronco]

Did the woman belong to someone else?

[vailpass]

Did the woman belong to someone else?

Apparently she just wouldn't listen...

[jallmon]

Interesting that when Jones was looking into getting Hardy on the team, his daughter was a prominent party. Hadn't heard much of or from her until this point. She assured all that Hardy needed a second chance, blah, blah, blah. The American Way, don't ya know.

Scumbags, the lot of 'em.

[Mr. Laz]

People bitch because:

the NFL isn't strict enough
the NFL is too strict
the NFL isn't thorough enough
the NFL waste too much time/money being thorough
the NFL tried to change a punishment after seeing more evidence

People endlessly chant fire Goodell

The media does it's best to trash the NFL every chance it gets

The NFLPA sues the NFL every chance it gets to block everything it can

The players complain about safety rules one minute and then sue the NFL about injuries the next

The media,fans,NFLPA and judges have done their best to remove as much power from the NFL as the can.

If the cowboys or NFL try to fire or punish Hardy now the NFLPA will sue them again. Since the judges appear to be on the NFLPA's payroll, they will win. If you're mad about Hardy still being in the NFL then blame the NFLPA, they are the only ones with the power to do anything about it.

[rabblerouser]

People bitch because:

the NFL isn't strict enough
the NFL is too strict
the NFL isn't thorough enough
the NFL waste too much time/money being thorough
the NFL tried to change a punishment after seeing more evidence

People endlessly chant fire Goodell

The media does it's best to trash the NFL every chance it gets

The NFLPA sues the NFL every chance it gets to block everything it can

The players complain about safety rules one minute and then sue the NFL about injuries the next

The media,fans,NFLPA and judges have done their best to remove as much power from the NFL as the can.

If the cowboys or NFL try to fire or punish Hardy now the NFLPA will sue them again. Since the judges appear to be on the NFLPA's payroll, they will win. If you're mad about Hardy still being in the NFL then blame the NFLPA, they are the only ones with the power to do anything about it.

Where's the "fuck that entire shitshow" option??

[chiefzilla1501]

People bitch because:

the NFL isn't strict enough
the NFL is too strict
the NFL isn't thorough enough
the NFL waste too much time/money being thorough
the NFL tried to change a punishment after seeing more evidence

People endlessly chant fire Goodell

The media does it's best to trash the NFL every chance it gets

The NFLPA sues the NFL every chance it gets to block everything it can

The players complain about safety rules one minute and then sue the NFL about injuries the next

The media,fans,NFLPA and judges have done their best to remove as much power from the NFL as the can.

If the cowboys or NFL try to fire or punish Hardy now the NFLPA will sue them again. Since the judges appear to be on the NFLPA's payroll, they will win. If you're mad about Hardy still being in the NFL then blame the NFLPA, they are the only ones with the power to do anything about it.

No fan cares about personal conduct. It's only a thing because Goodell made it a thing.

And if you're going to make it a thing, have a fucking protocol in place. What an embarrassment. People get pissed off because there's no consistency, which I'd say is pretty damn important when handing out penalties that seriously affect competitive integrity.

[ModSocks]

Ray Rice be like; "Daaaaaamn! He beat the shit outta her!".

[TimBone]

No fan cares about personal conduct. It's only a thing because Goodell made it a thing.

And if you're going to make it a thing, have a fucking protocol in place. What an embarrassment. People get pissed off because there's no consistency, which I'd say is pretty damn important when handing out penalties that seriously affect competitive integrity.
Fucking Bingo. Every word of it.

[Chiefs4TheWin]

Wow, he beat the flying fuck out of her. That's insanity.

[ModSocks]

Roger Goodell be like, "Uhh....i got this one wrong too...heh"

[Dayze]

Goodell's only worried about if it happened in London or not.

[KCUnited]

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b539/KCUnited1/download_zps7qdjkqpf.jpg

[ChiTown]

Roger Goodell be like, "Uhh....i got this one wrong too...heh"

Goodell is due to make $300MM+ in his current 7 year contract. Yeah, nothing to see here fellas, all is well!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlQtnsHqCtnL13vgI3DJneM7oGSrwla8vx98cULXg2Fe0i5no8B5p461ad

[Dayze]

it's staggering how much money Goodell makes. JFC.

I can't even fathom making that much money.

[eDave]

Apparently she just wouldn't listen...

Hope the bitch learned her lesson.

Jones is a piece of crap. No way he, or the NFL, didn't see these.

[PunkinDrublic]

People bitch because:

the NFL isn't strict enough
the NFL is too strict
the NFL isn't thorough enough
the NFL waste too much time/money being thorough
the NFL tried to change a punishment after seeing more evidence

People endlessly chant fire Goodell

The media does it's best to trash the NFL every chance it gets

The NFLPA sues the NFL every chance it gets to block everything it can

The players complain about safety rules one minute and then sue the NFL about injuries the next

The media,fans,NFLPA and judges have done their best to remove as much power from the NFL as the can.

If the cowboys or NFL try to fire or punish Hardy now the NFLPA will sue them again. Since the judges appear to be on the NFLPA's payroll, they will win. If you're mad about Hardy still being in the NFL then blame the NFLPA, they are the only ones with the power to do anything about it.


Every NFL team had this info on Hardy but the Cowboys were the only team willing to sign him. JJ and Jason Garrett have gone out of their way to say that Hardy is sorry and what a great guy he is. More than any other team, Dallas has tolerated criminal activity as long as they could still play.

[DJ's left nut]

No fan cares about personal conduct. It's only a thing because Goodell made it a thing.

And if you're going to make it a thing, have a fucking protocol in place. What an embarrassment. People get pissed off because there's no consistency, which I'd say is pretty damn important when handing out penalties that seriously affect competitive integrity.

There is a protocol. And the NFL attempted to suspend Hardy for most of this season as well (after suspending him all of last season).

It was overturned by the court.

Just exactly what the hell else would you have the NFL do? If they tried to ban him from the league, they'd lose and lose badly when Hardy sues them. If teams blackballed him and there was even a whiff of discussion about it, they'd get nailed for collusion.

Greg Hardy is a shitstain and a pox on humanity. And if you want to be pissed at Jerruh for employing him, that's fair. But the NFL has its hands tied here.

[Halfcan]

Goodell is due to make $300MM+ in his current 7 year contract. Yeah, nothing to see here fellas, all is well!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlQtnsHqCtnL13vgI3DJneM7oGSrwla8vx98cULXg2Fe0i5no8B5p461ad

:shake:

In other news-NFL to raise ticket prices.

[Perineum Ripper]

For fucks sake guys..think of the deflated footballs that Goodell was trying to save

[eDave]

I'm surprised the guys on PTI simply don't give a shit. Sucks because that is the only program I watch/watched on ESPN.

[chiefzilla1501]

There is a protocol. And the NFL attempted to suspend Hardy for most of this season as well (after suspending him all of last season).

It was overturned by the court.

Just exactly what the hell else would you have the NFL do? If they tried to ban him from the league, they'd lose and lose badly when Hardy sues them. If teams blackballed him and there was even a whiff of discussion about it, they'd get nailed for collusion.

Greg Hardy is a shitstain and a pox on humanity. And if you want to be pissed at Jerruh for employing him, that's fair. But the NFL has its hands tied here.

There is absolutely no protocol in place. There have been several cases of domestic violence. The NFL has ranged everywhere from 3 to 10 games on the suspensions. And worse, some players get to negotiate their punishment down. Which is why we have the Brady fiasco -- we probably wouldn't have nearly the fiasco if Goodell suspended Brady for 1 game.

And so, now we are using suspensions to determine how outraged we should be by domestic violence. Some players get suspended indefinitely. Some get suspended for 3 games. And everything in between. First of all, the NFL needs to stop trying to be the law -- Goodell shouldn't be doling out length of punishment based on an opinion of how bad it was. Second, domestic violence is domestic violence. Some consistency please or at least some firmly written rule about what constitutes a 10-game suspension vs. 3. This is why Goodell is getting decked in court. Because nobody can figure out how the fuck he's coming up with these punishments. And they matter a LOT when you're trying to create competitive parity. Last thing you want is somebody's opinion driving who gets to play and who doesn't.

[stonedstooge]

CowGirls will care when he starts to underperform. Then they will be OUTRAGED at his actions[and try to get out of paying his remaining salary}

[RunKC]

The Cowboys went from first place to 2-5 and just watched Matt Cassel ruin a game 2011 Chiefs style.

That's good enough punishment for Jerruh signing this clown.

[Willie Lanier]

What a piece of trash

[Discuss Thrower]

The Cowboys went from first place to 2-5 and just watched Matt Cassel ruin a game 2011 Chiefs style.

That's good enough punishment for Jerruh signing this clown.

We truly get the world we deserve.

[jspchief]

Any naked pics of the girl? Asking for a friend.

[Lonewolf Ed]

Any naked pics of the girl? Asking for a friend.

With or without bruises, scrapes, and cuts?

[DaneMcCloud]

The Cowboys went from first place to 2-5 and just watched Matt Cassel ruin a game 2011 Chiefs style.

That's good enough punishment for Jerruh signing this clown.


No

[DaneMcCloud]

We truly get the world we deserve.

Be careful what you wish for, twat

[Discuss Thrower]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/e1ee4a821af03c8e036483bfb1c203e0/tumblr_nqct4dYg6o1shfvewo1_1280.jpg

[RunKC]

No

The best thing any fans or owners that hate this (aka everybody outside of big D) coul get is watching that franchise suck.

[Toby Waller]

These pictures weren't in court a year ago?
From what I read around places she took a 10 million dollar settlement and its a done deal. So what is gained or proven or accomplished by putting these photos out a year later?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

These pictures weren't in court a year ago?
From what I read around places she took a 10 million dollar settlement and its a done deal. So what is gained or proven or accomplished by putting these photos out a year later?

Visual evidence of Hardy's scumbaggery and textual evidence of your dumbassery.

[Brock]

These pictures weren't in court a year ago?
From what I read around places she took a 10 million dollar settlement and its a done deal. So what is gained or proven or accomplished by putting these photos out a year later?

Information. What's your problem with it?

[Toby Waller]

Visual evidence of Hardy's scumbaggery and textual evidence of your dumbassery.

She took a 10 million settlement. These pics serve as nothing more than water cooler conversation.
I'm not agreeing with the act. Just wondering what's the point if typing disgust when they and you will do nothing about it because nothing can be done and already was a year go.
She took money and left him. It's over

[Toby Waller]

Information. What's your problem with it?

You're right.its nothing more than that now

[jspchief]

She took a 10 million settlement. These pics serve as nothing more than water cooler conversation.
I'm not agreeing with the act. Just wondering what's the point if typing disgust when they and you will do nothing about it because nothing can be done and already was a year go.
She took money and left him. It's over
You underestimate the power of visuals and the court of public opinion.

Ray Rice is blacklisted, and part of the reason is probably because people have a visual to fuel their outrage. Likewise, this new visual evidence will likely put more pressure on the Cowboys organization for employing this scumbag.

She may have been satisfied with a $10m payout to not show up in court, but the justice system being manipulated by the rich isn't a good thing. Now public opinion gets to try and balance the scale.

[Brock]

You're right.its nothing more than that now

Somehow I doubt roger is thinking that right now.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

She took a 10 million settlement. These pics serve as nothing more than water cooler conversation.
I'm not agreeing with the act. Just wondering what's the point if typing disgust when they and you will do nothing about it because nothing can be done and already was a year go.
She took money and left him. It's over

1) Greg Hardy would not have $10 million dollars to give her.

2) Perhaps it illustrates a problem with the NFL.

3)Perhaps it illustrates what is likely to happen to the next woman that is in a relationship with him.

4) Showing people images is a hell of a lot different than merely telling them. It affects an entirely different response.

[Simply Red]

where the white women?

[Al Bundy]

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THIS is your typical Cowboy fan....

[Squalor2]

These pictures weren't in court a year ago?
From what I read around places she took a 10 million dollar settlement and its a done deal. So what is gained or proven or accomplished by putting these photos out a year later?


a year later. dunno, for her sake maybe they should be published the next day. for hardy? on the big screen when he runs out of the tunnel?

[Dylan]

Leave the guy alone. He's a real leader.

LMAO

"He's one of the real leaders on this team & he earns it. That's the kind of thing that inspires."
-- Jerry Jones

[chiefzilla1501]

So what is worse?

Extreme domestic violence?
Abusing children?
Deflating footballs?
Assaulting a woman in the bathroom?
Punching a woman in the face in the elevator?
Taking ephedra?

What is the price you would put on each of these things? Which of these gets you kicked out of the league? Which of these warrants a slap on the wrist?

Roger Goodell should fucking burn for his joke of a personal conduct policy. This is not the kind of shit you make up as you go along. And now fans look like assholes because they are legitimately trying to consider if it's fair to suspend Hardy for more games than a child abuser. Nice, NFL. nice.

[Quesadilla Joe]

So what is worse?

Extreme domestic violence?
Abusing children?
Deflating footballs?
Assaulting a woman in the bathroom?
Punching a woman in the face in the elevator?
Taking ephedra?

What is the price you would put on each of these things? Which of these gets you kicked out of the league? Which of these warrants a slap on the wrist?

Roger Goodell should ****ing burn for his joke of a personal conduct policy. This is not the kind of shit you make up as you go along. And now fans look like assholes because they are legitimately trying to consider if it's fair to suspend Hardy for more games than a child abuser. Nice, NFL. nice.

Roger Goodell tried to come down hard on them, the NFLPA are the ones who are getting all of these suspenions reduced.

[Bufkin]

With or without bruises, scrapes, and cuts?
I looked her up on Facebook. Her face is a hard 8, and her feet are a 10 (she has a beach photo album).

[BWillie]

Didnt he already get his punishment? Ten games. Worthless human being, but hes already been disciplined

[Toby Waller]

Somehow I doubt roger is thinking that right now.

I can guarantee you he doesn't care and isn't worried about anything. Furthermore what makes you think he has anything to do with decisions? He's the owners mouthpiece and does what they want. He's middle management for the owners.

[Bufkin]

Didnt he already get his punishment? Ten games. Worthless human being, but hes already been disciplined
It was knocked down to 4 games. In this case, the NFL is innocent. Hardy is a steaming pile of menstrual blood, with Jerry Jones not much better.
http://terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Jones-2.jpg

[BWillie]

It was knocked down to 4 games. In this case, the NFL is innocent. Hardy is a steaming pile of menstrual blood, with Jerry Jones not much better.
http://terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Jones-2.jpg
LOL that's Jerry? Thats awesome.

[Bufkin]

In the words of the late great John Adams, you're never too old for some hot pussy.
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--3WW6d-q5--/nwuk2p2thw97sk7mpd7p.jpg

[ThaVirus]

But would you let your daughter date a black guy?

[Bufkin]

But would you let your daughter date a black guy?
Would I let my son drink bleach? Would I let my dog jump off balconies? Would I let my wife torch our house?

[Bufkin]

Would I let my son drink bleach? Would I let my dog jump off balconies? Would I let my wife torch our house?
damn im drunk and that came off as way too racist. I love black people. Here's me and my ex. We still friends
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[loochy]

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THIS is your typical Cowboy fan....

Bodley harm? What a freaking retard.

[notorious]

Next time you see a Cowboy fan, tell them they are supporting a piece of shit, thus making them a piece of shit.

[chiefzilla1501]

Roger Goodell tried to come down hard on them, the NFLPA are the ones who are getting all of these suspenions reduced.

Goodells personal conduct policy is such a joke that now he resorts to throwing arbitrary suspensions out there he knows will never hold up and waits for the nflpa to overrule him. That's a ridiculous policy. And his overreach on deflategate actually backfired on him.

When Goodell gives ten games for this, then two games for punching a girl in the elevator, and indefinite suspension for whipping your kid... 3 game suspension for Sean Smiths dui then ,four games for leveon bell negotiated down to two. Enough with picking punishments out of a hat. Roger Goodell is telling us how outraged we should be about each individual incident. Rather than saying abuse is abuse... Every clear abuse incident gets four games.

[threebag]

I looked her up on Facebook. Her face is a hard 8, and her feet are a 10 (she has a beach photo album).

Can't link a brother?

[chiefzilla1501]

By the way, this is an issue for all sports. MLB, NFL, NBA all have the power to arbitrarily throw out penalties. Adam Silver gave out a 24-game suspension a year ago for DV even though the NBA had a standard 10-game suspension for violent felonies. What happens when this happens multiple times and you get a 22 game suspension, 30 games, 15 games? Are we going to rank which dv case was most violent? That seems stupid.

Where other leagues stepped up, however, is that they have procedures in place to immediately investigate, force players to cooperate, and then allow the player to appeal to an independent arbitrator.

[Bwana]

What a pile of crap, good fit for Jones and the crew.

[BossChief]

Dez and Greg...wow.

Nice job, Jerry.

Been cleaning things up off the field since Michael Irvin stabbed that rookie with hair cutting scissors in the neck....Michael and Newton in that hotel room with all the drugs and hookers..

[Bowser]

Dez and Greg...wow.

Nice job, Jerry.

Been cleaning things up off the field since Michael Irvin stabbed that rookie with hair cutting scissors in the neck....Michael and Newton in that hotel room with all the drugs and hookers..

I was about to ask if Jerruh Jones, owner and General Manager of the Dallas Cowboys, had the stones to cut Hardy for "conduct detrimental", but I suppose I knew the answer to that before I asked it.

[PunkinDrublic]

I was about to ask if Jerruh Jones, owner and General Manager of the Dallas Cowboys, had the stones to cut Hardy for "conduct detrimental", but I suppose I knew the answer to that before I asked it.

JJ released a statement yesterday reaffirming the teams commitment to Hardy. This is a new low for even the Cowboys. JJ is an even bigger POS than I thought!

[ClevelandBronco]

We're talking about the irrelevant Cowboys. That makes Jerry happy.

[BossChief]

I was about to ask if Jerruh Jones, owner and General Manager of the Dallas Cowboys, had the stones to cut Hardy for "conduct detrimental", but I suppose I knew the answer to that before I asked it.

They are pushing for a long term contract with him and want it done soon.

[Boon]

It's just math.

Jones=POS=Hardy

[PunkinDrublic]

JJ statement yesterday:

Here’s the full statement, via Ian Rapoport:

“While we did not have access to the photos that became public today, we were and are aware of the serious nature of this incident. We as an organization take this very seriously. We do not condone domestic violence. We entered into the agreement with Greg fully understanding that there would be scrutiny and criticism. We have given Greg a second chance. He is a member of our team and someone who is grateful for the opportunity he has been given to move forward with his life and his career.”

[BossChief]

Collins
Dez
Hardy
That mlb that can't shake the cops...

Standup job Jerry.

Really improving the image of the sport...should have just signed Aldon Smith, too.

[BossChief]

We do not condone domestic violence, but we are pushing to sign Hardy long term even after knowing he damn near killed this woman.

WTF?

[eDave]

Collins
Dez
Hardy
That mlb that can't shake the cops...

Standup job Jerry.

Really improving the image of the sport...should have just signed Aldon Smith, too.

I heard Hernandez is keeping himself in game-shape.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm more disgusted with the prosecutor who saw these pictures and decided to drop the charges.

[PunkinDrublic]

Collins
Dez
Hardy
That mlb that can't shake the cops...

Standup job Jerry.

Really improving the image of the sport...should have just signed Aldon Smith, too.

Don't forget that D lineman that killed his teammate in a drunken driving accident. He ended up retiring but the Cowboys were going to have him on the team after his suspension was up. Why shouldn't NFL players think they're above the law. Uncle Jerry is always willing to give them a second chance. Trust me, if Ray Rice were about 5 years younger, the Cowboys would bring him in.

[Bowser]

I'm more disgusted with the prosecutor who saw these pictures and decided to drop the charges.

Make you wonder how big of a cashiers check he got from the Cowboys organization?

[big nasty kcnut]

I hope someone put a fist dildo up his ass then make him drink antifreeze while dying in a fire and then run into a aids tree.

[Brock]

I'm more disgusted with the prosecutor who saw these pictures and decided to drop the charges.

I thought she accepted some money from hardy and refused to cooperate after that.

[eDave]

I thought she accepted some money from hardy and refused to cooperate after that.

I like how ESPN is using the word "allegedly" still.

And Wilbon saying "let's move onto his performance on the field", or some such shit on PTI.

[Brock]

I can guarantee you he doesn't care and isn't worried about anything. Furthermore what makes you think he has anything to do with decisions? He's the owners mouthpiece and does what they want. He's middle management for the owners.

The fuck? Roger cares how the league looks, in fact that's about the only thing he does care about.

[Toby Waller]

We're talking about the irrelevant Cowboys. That makes Jerry happy.

You wish they were irrelevant. They are the Notre Dame of the NFL.
They'll always sell more merchandise than most teams and always get primetime games etc.. even when they are bad they go 8-8 or 7-9. If they do a little worse this year they'll still be more interesting and liked then more than half the league

[smith11]

not condoning what hardy did, but I don't understand why people are any more up in arms about it than they would be if the abuse was doled out by their local insurance agent

[chiefzilla1501]

Nailed it.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/11/06/roger-goodell-nfl-only-look-worse-after-deadspin-releases-photos-of-greg-hardys-ex-girlfriend/

"He then set out to prove he’s tough on domestic violence by … spending nearly an entire calendar year fighting a quarterback over air pressure in footballs, a fight he continues to this day in a court of appeals, all the while looking directly past the domestic abuser sitting right in front of him in the form of Greg Hardy — even after going to such great lengths to learn what Hardy really did. When Goodell’s 10-game suspension was reduced to four games by Henderson, Goodell did not appeal to a court system, and he did not publicly trumpet the power given to him in the CBA as something worth fighting for. He merely accepted it and watched as Hardy returned to the field to accept ovations from the adoring Dallas crowds and the billionaire Cowboys owner on a weekly basis."

[Chiefshrink]

.should have just signed Aldon Smith, too.

I'm sure he tried.

[RobBlake]

Nailed it.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/11/06/roger-goodell-nfl-only-look-worse-after-deadspin-releases-photos-of-greg-hardys-ex-girlfriend/

"He then set out to prove he’s tough on domestic violence by … spending nearly an entire calendar year fighting a quarterback over air pressure in footballs, a fight he continues to this day in a court of appeals, all the while looking directly past the domestic abuser sitting right in front of him in the form of Greg Hardy — even after going to such great lengths to learn what Hardy really did. When Goodell’s 10-game suspension was reduced to four games by Henderson, Goodell did not appeal to a court system, and he did not publicly trumpet the power given to him in the CBA as something worth fighting for. He merely accepted it and watched as Hardy returned to the field to accept ovations from the adoring Dallas crowds and the billionaire Cowboys owner on a weekly basis."
Hardy doesn't hurt the integrity of the game the same way a QB who does the same thing countless of other QBs do.

[loochy]

Hardy doesn't hurt the integrity of the game the same way a QB who does the same thing countless of other QBs do.

I know, right? Nothing says integrity like someone that beats people.

[Fire Me Boy!]

I'm more disgusted with the prosecutor who saw these pictures and decided to drop the charges.

Victim wouldn't cooperate. No witness.

[Baby Lee]

Hardy doesn't hurt the integrity of the game the same way a QB who does the same thing countless of other QBs do.

I know, right? Nothing says integrity like someone that beats people.

Don't be these guys. Whatever one thinks of Hardy's actions, behavior reflecting one's integrity in life and behavior affecting the integrity of the game itself are entirely different concepts.

[chiefzilla1501]

Don't be these guys. Whatever one thinks of Hardy's actions, behavior reflecting one's integrity in life and behavior affecting the integrity of the game itself are entirely different concepts.

The problem started when Goodell decided to be a moral cop and believed the NFL should over-police "integrity of life" shit. Every league has a conduct policy but none went to the ridiculous extent Goodell went.

DV happens in every sport. I get that the violent nature of the NFL makes it happen more in the NFL. But there's a reason why this is such a huge issue in the NFL where it's not in most other leagues and that starts with GOodell.

[Baby Lee]

The problem started when Goodell decided to be a moral cop and believed the NFL should over-police "integrity of life" shit. Every league has a conduct policy but none went to the ridiculous extent Goodell went.

DV happens in every sport. I get that the violent nature of the NFL makes it happen more in the NFL. But there's a reason why this is such a huge issue in the NFL where it's not in most other leagues and that starts with GOodell.

How the league treats off-field issues is it's own thing. I'm addressing this wrongheaded comparison of censure for off-field issues to censure for subverting the actual game.

[chiefzilla1501]

How the league treats off-field issues is it's own thing. I'm addressing this wrongheaded comparison of censure for off-field issues to censure for subverting the actual game.

Which is what bothers the hell out of me about Goodell's ridiculously arbitrary punishment system. From a competitive integrity standpoint, a player on the Cowboys should be punished the same as a player from the Chiefs who does the same thing months later. But Goodell doesn't understand that. He thinks it's okay for 1 guy to get 10 games. Another guy to get 3. Another to get 5 negotiated down to 3. In some cases, like in Baltimore, he's in cahoots to cover the thing up so the penalty gets reduced. The NFLPA helps somewhat, but not nearly enough.

As opposed to saying for domestic violence, every player gets x games. If it's a felony, then you get y games. When you don't do this shit consistently, you give a huge competitive disadvantage to players who Goodell selectively chooses for his shit list.

[Baby Lee]

Which is what bothers the hell out of me about Goodell's ridiculously arbitrary punishment system. From a competitive integrity standpoint, a player on the Cowboys should be punished the same as a player from the Chiefs who does the same thing months later. But Goodell doesn't understand that. He thinks it's okay for 1 guy to get 10 games. Another guy to get 3. Another to get 5 negotiated down to 3. In some cases, like in Baltimore, he's in cahoots to cover the thing up so the penalty gets reduced. The NFLPA helps somewhat, but not nearly enough.

As opposed to saying for domestic violence, every player gets x games. If it's a felony, then you get y games. When you don't do this shit consistently, you give a huge competitive disadvantage to players who Goodell selectively chooses for his shit list.

I have no problem with this complaint.

[RobBlake]

Don't be these guys. Whatever one thinks of Hardy's actions, behavior reflecting one's integrity in life and behavior affecting the integrity of the game itself are entirely different concepts.

ball psi is no more damaging to the integrity of the game than WR gloves - see Odell, longer/shorter cleats, DEs having smaller shoulder pads than a guy who was barely punished.. hardy's situation is actually far worse from an integrity aspect both off and on the field.

[Baby Lee]

ball psi is no more damaging to the integrity of the game than WR gloves - see Odell, longer/shorter cleats, DEs having smaller shoulder pads than a guy who was barely punished.. hardy's situation is actually far worse from an integrity aspect both off and on the field.

I'm not here to dance at your 'white knight Brady' party. Argue with someone else about how unfair life is for your Baboo.

[BigCatDaddy]

ball psi is no more damaging to the integrity of the game than WR gloves - see Odell, longer/shorter cleats, DEs having smaller shoulder pads than a guy who was barely punished.. hardy's situation is actually far worse from an integrity aspect both off and on the field.

And all of the equipment issues you mentioned I believe are punishable by a 25k fine a according to the CBA. Not suspendable offenses.

[RobBlake]

And all of the equipment issues you mentioned I believe are punishable by a 25k fine a according to the CBA. Not suspendable offenses.

that's what pissed me off with the brady ordeal and now this. This dude literally beat the living shit out of his girl.. this was worse than the ray rice issue *ray and his wife seemed to have moved on from the incident* but hardy looks like a total psycho and pos person. He also happens to be a top rusher that effects the games he shouldn't be playing in

[chiefzilla1501]

that's what pissed me off with the brady ordeal and now this. This dude literally beat the living shit out of his girl.. this was worse than the ray rice issue *ray and his wife seemed to have moved on from the incident* but hardy looks like a total psycho and pos person. He also happens to be a top rusher that effects the games he shouldn't be playing in

I despise leagues trying to overreach on moral code. Same reason I said it was completely ridiculous for the NCAA to give Penn State virtually the death penalty. There is a very, very big difference between being a jerk off the field. And cheating to gain competitive advantage.

The main reason leagues enforce personal conduct is to protect their reputation. Leagues enforce rules to prevent cheating because it gives one team an advantage over another league.

[Marcellus]

I despise leagues trying to overreach on moral code. Same reason I said it was completely ridiculous for the NCAA to give Penn State virtually the death penalty. There is a very, very big difference between being a jerk off the field. And cheating to gain competitive advantage.

The main reason leagues enforce personal conduct is to protect their reputation. Leagues enforce rules to prevent cheating because it gives one team an advantage over another league.

True, one of these things is actually important to society.

[chiefzilla1501]

True, one of these things is actually important to society.

The league's #1 priority is to protect competitive integrity.

The LAW's #1 priority is to enforce personal conduct.

I get every league's focus on personal conduct. But when you talk suspensions, that cuts into competitive integrity. And last think I want is some crooked dumbshit like Goodell or Emmert dictating moral authority. If they want to set an example, then they would be transparent when it happens and punish the player off-the-field to fix the problem. That's why other leagues are praised for their recent reactions to dv where people still don't trust Goodell.

[Mr. Laz]

I'm more disgusted with the prosecutor who saw these pictures and decided to drop the charges.

I believe he didn't have a choice because the woman disappeared.


I imagine Hardy either threatened or paid her to leave.

[Marcellus]

The league's #1 priority is to protect competitive integrity.

The LAW's #1 priority is to enforce personal conduct.

I get every league's focus on personal conduct. But when you talk suspensions, that cuts into competitive integrity. And last think I want is some crooked dumbshit like Goodell or Emmert dictating moral authority. If they want to set an example, then they would be transparent when it happens and punish the player off-the-field to fix the problem. That's why other leagues are praised for their recent reactions to dv where people still don't trust Goodell.

The only issue is they went after Brady for something that gave no real competitive advantage. Goodell fucked that up for sure, its being proven every single week of football this year as NE continues to whip ass on people.

It doesn't matter if you are football or a grocery store.

We have a work policy at a manufacturing plant that if you get arrested at any point for any charge you can be dismissed regardless of outcome of the arrest.

Its 100% legal and we use it at discretion. Meaning we look at circumstances and decide on each individual case by case basis.

Hardy doesn't have to be unemployed, he just doesn't have to be in the NFL to survive either. He isn't guaranteed a $1MM+ living and lifestyle any longer, or shouldn't be.

[chiefzilla1501]

The only issue is they went after Brady for something that gave no real competitive advantage. Goodell ****ed that up for sure, its being proven every single week of football this year as NE continues to whip ass on people.
The rule is there. And unless you're naïve, the Patriots went out of their way to break it. I agree the rule is stupid and doesn't give much competitive advantage. But Brady was the architect of the rule. Still, what made this such a joke was not the NFL enforcing the rule. It was their ridiculous overreach in the investigation and punishment.


We have a work policy at a manufacturing plant that if you get arrested at any point for any charge you can be dismissed regardless of outcome of the arrest.

Its 100% legal and we use it at discretion. Meaning we look at circumstances and decide on each individual case by case basis.

Hardy doesn't have to be unemployed, he just doesn't have to be in the NFL to survive either. He isn't guaranteed a $1MM+ living and lifestyle any longer, or shouldn't be.

Then have a standard set of rules on an NFL level (e.g. x games for dui, y games for domestic violence, z games for felony domestic violence). Then pressure NFL owners to take action against their own players. That goes not just for personal conduct, but for breaking competitive rules too. This off the cuff shit is laughably incompetent.

[RobBlake]

The rule is there. And unless you're naïve, the Patriots went out of their way to break it. I agree the rule is stupid and doesn't give much competitive advantage. But Brady was the architect of the rule. Still, what made this such a joke was not the NFL enforcing the rule. It was their ridiculous overreach in the investigation and punishment.




Then have a standard set of rules on an NFL level (e.g. x games for dui, y games for domestic violence, z games for felony domestic violence). Then pressure NFL owners to take action against their own players. That goes not just for personal conduct, but for breaking competitive rules too. This off the cuff shit is laughably incompetent.
they should have just fined Brady money and called it a day

[BigCatDaddy]

they should have just fined Brady money and called it a day

Without video evidence of him letting air out of a ball Im not sure they could have fined him without a fight. Its not like with sticky gloves or no thigh pads where you are caught on the field in violation. But yeah a fine should have been the best they could have hoped for.

[chiefzilla1501]

they should have just fined Brady money and called it a day

The punishment should have been much lesser. But same shit... Goodell's enforcement of rules from team to team has been so damn inconsistent, that everyone was basically rooting for the Brady punishment to be harsh as a "make-up call" because everyone was sick of Robert Kraft advising Goodell to overreach on punishing other teams. It pisses me off that Goodell's incompetence ended up making people feel sorry for the Pats.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Blake sucking patriot cock yet again...absolutely pathetic

[Discuss Thrower]

I despise leagues trying to overreach on moral code. Same reason I said it was completely ridiculous for the NCAA to give Penn State virtually the death penalty. There is a very, very big difference between being a jerk off the field. And cheating to gain competitive advantage.

The main reason leagues enforce personal conduct is to protect their reputation. Leagues enforce rules to prevent cheating because it gives one team an advantage over another league.

... They covering up Sandusky's misdeeds was cheating for an advantage..

[gblowfish]

Did Hardy choke Casshole after the game last night???

[chiefzilla1501]

... They covering up Sandusky's misdeeds was cheating for an advantage..

Protecting a coach from getting fired doesn't warrant the NCAA death penalty.
The school got destroyed with fines/penalties. Many of those involved were sent to jail and heavily punished. Good - those assholes deserve worse. Good example of the law taking care of the criminal and moral side. The arbitrariness of penalties in both college football and NFL is appalling.

[Discuss Thrower]

Protecting a coach from getting fired doesn't warrant the NCAA death penalty.
The school got destroyed with fines/penalties. Many of those involved were sent to jail and heavily punished. Good - those assholes deserve worse. Good example of the law taking care of the criminal and moral side. The arbitrariness of penalties in both college football and NFL is appalling.

They went beyond protecting Sandusky from being fired. Paterno was told what McQuarrie saw and did nothing. That's on the football side. Paterno didn't report him to not impugn the name of Penn State football.

They cheated on the same fundemental level as SMU. Penn State deserved the death penalty. Period.

[chiefzilla1501]

They went beyond protecting Sandusky from being fired. Paterno was told what McQuarrie saw and did nothing. That's on the football side. Paterno didn't report him to not impugn the name of Penn State football.

They cheated on the same fundemental level as SMU. Penn State deserved the death penalty. Period.

What Paterno and Penn State did was criminal. Paterno/Penn State deserved to be sued like crazy and thrown into jail. That is different from cheating to improve the product on the field. PSU should have been penalized for the cover-up, not for the act itself. But the NCAA decided to throw the death penalty out of emotion.

And it's this emotion thing that scares me. Punishments should be handed out consistently, not based on emotion. If the penalty itself was a cover-up, then it should be punished similarly to another team covering up, say, a player rapist. In the same way, if Hardy's domestic violence charge was felony domestic violence, it should be given the same punishment as another felony domestic violence charge.