**** OFFICIAL College Football Week 12 Game Thread ****

[DaKCMan AP]

All times EST.

Wednesday
8:00 Central Michigan at Kent State - ESPNU
8:00 Western Michigan at Northern Illinois - ESPN2

Thursday
7:30 East Carolina at UCF - ESPN
9:30 Louisiana Monroe at Texas State - ESPNU

Friday
8:00 Cincinnati at South Florida - CBSSN
9:30 Air Force at Boise State - ESPN2

Saturday
12:00 North Texas at Middle Tennessee
12:00 #21 Memphis at Temple - ESPNU
12:00 Florida Atlantic at #8 Florida - SECN
12:00 The Citadel at South Carolina - SECN
12:00 #17 North Carolina at Virginia Tech - ESPN
12:00 Rutgers at Army - CBSSN
12:00 West Virginia at Kansas
12:00 Iowa State at Kansas State - FS1
12:00 Purdue at #5 Iowa - ESPN2
12:00 Indiana at Maryland
12:00 Illinois at Minnesota - ESPNNEWS
12:00 #12 Michigan at Penn State - ABC
12:30 Georgia Tech at Miami - ESPN3
12:30 Syracuse at NC State - ESPN3
1:00 Miami (OH) at Massachusetts - ESPN3
2:00 South Alabama at Georgia State - ESPN3
2:30 Western Kentucky at FIU
3:00 Chattanooga at #14 Florida State - ESPN3
3:00 Fresno State at BYU - ESPN3
3:30 Nevada at Utah State - ESPN3
3:30 Old Dominion at Southern Mississippi
3:30 Louisiana Tech at UTEP - FSN
3:30 #19 Houston at UConn - ESPNU
3:30 Buffalo at Akron - CBSSN
3:30 #15 LSU at #22 Ole Miss - CBS
3:30 Wake Forest at #1 Clemson - ESPN2
3:30 Duke at Virginia - ESPN3
3:30 Arizona at Arizona State
3:30 #24 USC at #23 Oregon - ESPN
3:30 UCLA at #13 Utah - FOX
3:30 #20 Northwestern at #25 Wisconsin - BTN
3:30 #9 Michigan State at #3 Ohio State - ABC
3:45 Louisville at Pittsburgh - ESPNNEWS
4:00 Idaho at Auburn - SECN
4:00 Charleston Southern at #2 Alabama - SECN
5:00 New Mexico State at Louisiana Lafayette - ESPN3
5:30 Colorado State at New Mexico
6:00 Washington at Oregon State - PAC12
7:00 Mississippi State at Arkansas - ESPN
7:00 Georgia Southern at Georgia - ESPNU
7:00 #16 Navy at Tulsa - CBSSN
7:00 Rice at Texas San Antonio
7:15 Tennessee at Missouri - ESPN2
7:30 Texas A&M at Vanderbilt - SECN
7:30 Boston College at #4 Notre Dame - NBCSN
7:30 Charlotte at Kentucky - SECN
7:30 #10 Baylor at #6 Oklahoma State - FOX
8:00 #18 TCU at #7 Oklahoma - ABC
8:00 Tulane at SMU - ESPNNEWS
10:30 San Diego State at UNLV - CBSSN
10:30 California at #11 Stanford - ESPN
10:45 Colorado at Washington State - ESPN2
11:00 San Jose State at Hawaii

Enjoy the games!
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[Saul Good]

Incredible weekend for college football. We will know a lot more about the playoff picture on Sunday.

[El Jefe]

Incredible weekend for college football. We will know a lot more about the playoff picture on Sunday.

Yep. The real will step forward, and the fake will step back. Its time for the Buckeyes to step up or step back. They have a tough road ahead, if we beat MSU who is now #9, we will play Michigan next week who will be in the top 10 (if they don't lose this week), then we will play Iowa in the B10CG who is #5 (if they don't lose), then we will probably play Alabama in the 1st round. ****All this to stay, every week is make or break in college football. If we lose this week, all of the talk about what could be, was nothing more than a waste of time. We need to win, or our season is done.

[Toby Waller]

MSU will lose.
Baylor will win.

[Saul Good]

Rumors are starting to swirl that Texas is lifting its skirt for Saban...again.

[notorious]

Rumors are starting to swirl that Texas is lifting its skirt for Saban...again.

Is he going to coach until he is 122 like Bill Snyder?

[BWillie]

Ultimate awesomeness would be Michigan State beating Ohio State, Baylor beating Oklahoma State, Notre Dame losing to Boston College. Iowa moves up to #2 or #1 lol

Iowa -23 vs Purdue. I haven't seen an Iowa line that large against a Big Ten opponent...ever.

[El Jefe]

Ultimate awesomeness would be Michigan State beating Ohio State, Baylor beating Oklahoma State, Notre Dame losing to Boston College. Iowa moves up to #2 or #1 lol

Iowa -23 vs Purdue. I haven't seen an Iowa line that large against a Big Ten opponent...ever.

Iowa will cover, Purdue is awful lol. Iowa has a great team this year, really impressed with how well they have played.

[BWillie]

Iowa will cover, Purdue is awful lol. Iowa has a great team this year, really impressed with how well they have played.

It's going to be real cold & blustery with snow too, which will make it even more difficult for Purdue to score through the air.

[ptlyon]

It's going to be real cold & blustery with snow too, which will make it even more difficult for Purdue to score through the air.

Winter storm warning until noon tomorrow actually

[El Jefe]

It's going to be real cold & blustery with snow too, which will make it even more difficult for Purdue to score through the air.

Iowa will have a tough field to plow in the BG10CG no matter who represents the east. It will either be us, MSU or Michigan, all three are tough teams, the B10CG should be a slobber knocker old school ground-em pound-em type game. Line up and smash someone in the mouth, old school B10 football which I love.

[Trivers]

Boomer Sooner!

Our 5 game playoffs began last week. Must win 4 more to be national champs.

[Predarat]

HUGE games in the shiTen and Big1X

[The Franchise]

Notre Dame will beat Boston College this week and then more than likely lose to Stanford after that.

[LoneWolf]

Notre Dame will beat Boston College this week and then more than likely lose to Stanford after that.

Pest, why so negative?

[The Franchise]

Pest, why so negative?

I'm a Chiefs, Dodgers and Irish fan. How can I be anything BUT negative?

[LoneWolf]

I'm a Chiefs, Dodgers and Irish fan. How can I be anything BUT negative?

I don't see any reason to be negative when it comes to the Irish, though. With the injuries they've had this season, they have really been a pleasant surprise. They've also found a great young QB and Fuller announced he's coming back for his Senior year. Good time to be a Notre Dame fan.

[The Franchise]

I don't see any reason to be negative when it comes to the Irish, though. With the injuries they've had this season, they have really been a pleasant surprise. They've also found a great young QB and Fuller announced he's coming back for his Senior year. Good time to be a Notre Dame fan.

I'm digging Josh Adams. That kid is going to be awesome.

[LoneWolf]

I'm digging Josh Adams. That kid is going to be awesome.

Yep. If they can replace Stanley, the offense will be hard to stop next season.

[displacedinMN]

Rumors are starting to swirl that Texas is lifting its skirt for Saban...again.

I don't see how Texas is a better coaching job than Alabama. Or vice versa.
there are just some top tier jobs.

ALA, OSU, Tex, Mich, Maybe A+M. Oklahoma.

At that point, its all about the money.

[lewdog]

The Irish fucking suck.

Next.

[Saul Good]

Boomer Sooner!

Our 5 game playoffs began last week. Must win 4 more to be national champs.


You need to win out and get some help to make the playoffs.

Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, and Notre Dame are all in if you all win out.

[LoneWolf]

The Irish fucking suck.

Next.

You're really putting your title of "LoneWolf's favorite poster on CP" in jeopardy with this post. :D

[DaKCMan AP]

I don't see how Texas is a better coaching job than Alabama. Or vice versa.
there are just some top tier jobs.

ALA, OSU, Tex, Mich, Maybe A+M. Oklahoma.

At that point, its all about the money.

Florida, USC, LSU, Notre Dame

[lewdog]

You're really putting your title of "LoneWolf's favorite poster on CP" in jeopardy with this post. :D

We have a neighbor two houses down from us. I've never met him in the 1.5 years we've been here. Casual wave but that's it. I saw the "Play like a champion today" flag in his garage within the first week we moved in. I already know what kind of douche he is.

And don't you ever talk to me like that again, ok babe?!

[Toby Waller]

I'm a Chiefs, Dodgers and Irish fan. How can I be anything BUT negative?

You root for two of the winningest teams in sports and you think that's a negative?

[BryanBusby]

Hackenberg is going to be a steal for somebody.

He will get knocked for his production, and the kid just doesn't have a lot working for him on that offense.

[Saul Good]

Hackenberg is terrible.

[Saul Good]

Florida has missed two field goals from inside 35 yards and just gave up a defensive touchdown. 14-14 late 4th against Florida Atlantic. Their offense and special teams are comical.

[O.city]

The white hat for the Michigan Penn state game is a principle here in springfield.

[ohiobronco2]

God the SEC is soooo tough. It really is quite the gauntlet. I mean, not every team gets to face top tier teams like The Citadel and FAU every week.

[Saul Good]

Florida blows the EP in overtime...

[notorious]

Rustshack has to be on suicide watch.

[notorious]

ISU Head Coach might be the biggest dumbfuck on the planet. LMAO

[Raiderhater]

Bizarre ending. I'll take it though.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Fedora is a fucking idiot

[O.city]

Fedora is a ****ing idiot

Why did he call timeout

[MotherfuckerJones]

Why did he call timeout

I guess he thought it was second down? I don't know. Terrible ending. Should've handed it to a RB not the QB

[BWillie]

Iowa 11-0 lol

This is awesome

[The Franchise]

You root for two of the winningest teams in sports and you think that's a negative?

Who haven't won a championship in how long?

[Rams Fan]

God the SEC is soooo tough. It really is quite the gauntlet. I mean, not every team gets to face top tier teams like The Citadel and FAU every week.

Meanwhile, the winner of the Big 10 West, has faced none of Michigan St., Michigan, or Ohio St.

[Bambi]

Great drive by MSU.

[Bambi]

ISU Head Coach might be the biggest dumb**** on the planet. LMAO

I only watched the end. What made him so dumb? He got into uniform and fumbled twice in the last minute?

[BigMeatballDave]

God the SEC is soooo tough. It really is quite the gauntlet. I mean, not every team gets to face top tier teams like The Citadel and FAU every week.

LMAO

[BigMeatballDave]

Ohio State's punter apparently doesn't want to play for another National Title.

Early Xmas gift for Michigan state.

[Toby Waller]

Ivy league is a interesting change of pace. Harvard kicking Yale ass

[BigMeatballDave]

Bucs dodge a bullet.

Yikes! Twice LOL

[jspchief]

Meanwhile, the winner of the Big 10 West, has faced none of Michigan St., Michigan, or Ohio St.
Don't SEC schedules ever play out like that? You can't play every team every year.

[Rams Fan]

Don't SEC schedules ever play out like that? You can't play every team every year.

They do.

But bashing cupcake games when every team has those is pointless.

Just as me bringing up that Iowa hasn't faced anyone is, too.

[Pablo]

I think a nap would have been a better call than watching this Ohio state game.

[BigMeatballDave]

I think a nap would have been a better call than watching this Ohio state game.

No joke. And I'm a fan. :)

[O.city]

Lsu fumbles into the endzone recovered by their ol. Back to a 1 score game early 3rd quarter

[BigMeatballDave]

Ohio State D shit all over themselves that drive

[KCCHIEFS27]

I think a nap would have been a better call than watching this Ohio state game.

Not when you have money on the game

[GloucesterChief]

Well, LSU was a complete fraud.

Someone tell me that the SEC is the best conference again.....

[notorious]

OSU goes down.

[notorious]

Michigan State is good.

[BigMeatballDave]

Way to play with your heads up your asses all game, Ohio state. No repeat.

[Pepe Silvia]

Michigan State is good.

They've always had an awesome defense.

[Trivers]

Two wins and OU is in.

[NewChief]

Well, LSU was a complete fraud.

Someone tell me that the SEC is the best conference again.....

They could be salty in the post season, because other conference Ds will have difficulty lining up and going toe to toe with their line to stop Fournette. But their QB play is just atrocious. Totally one dimensional.


As for SEC vs. the rest... the post season will tell. Parity is definitely settling across the nation, though.

[DaNewGuy]

Pete Townshend would be proud of those windmills

[tk13]

Undefeated Houston loses to UConn.

[Trivers]

Houston got exposed for what they are. Strength of schedule matters for a reason.

[Al Bundy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zeke Elliott just said <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OSU?src=hash">#OSU</a> coaches didn&#39;t put team in position to win that game. &quot;Unacceptable.&quot; Wow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSU?src=hash">#MSU</a></p>&mdash; Kevin Gehl (@KevinGehlTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinGehlTV/status/668226604569612288">November 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Pablo]

Pokes getting exposed early. Could be a beautiful raping. They could lose. And OU. And then Rudy U and it would be a great day.

[GloucesterChief]

Houston got exposed for what they are. Strength of schedule matters for a reason.

Houston's QB was out with the ankle injury he suffered a week ago.

[GloucesterChief]

I think the top 4 this week will be:

Mich St, Clemson, Bama, and ND*.

If ND loses to BC replace with Oklahoma.

[Prison Bitch]

Ohio State lost at home to a team with a backup QB, despite winning the TO battle 2-0?

#fraud

[Pablo]

First to sixty wins in stillwater.

[tk13]

I think the top 4 this week will be:

Mich St, Clemson, Bama, and ND*.

If ND loses to BC replace with Oklahoma.

I think they put Iowa in there. They're undefeated and no harm in doing it... Michigan State will have to beat Iowa in the Big Ten title game to make the playoffs anyway.

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zeke Elliott just said <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OSU?src=hash">#OSU</a> coaches didn&#39;t put team in position to win that game. &quot;Unacceptable.&quot; Wow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSU?src=hash">#MSU</a></p>&mdash; Kevin Gehl (@KevinGehlTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinGehlTV/status/668226604569612288">November 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[KC native]

I need bible aggie to win against okie lite and TCU to win tonight.

Then need Zero U to beat okie lite next week and have TCU beat bible aggie and TCU wins the Big 12 again.

Oh and Ohio State is the real fraud. Lost to a back up at home.

[WhawhaWhat]

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[displacedinMN]

Iowa will be 4.

[notorious]

OkSt's defense is a bag of AIDS.

How can they be so shitty with all that talent?

[displacedinMN]

OkSt's defense is a bag of AIDS.

How can they be so shitty with all that talent?

defense wins Big12 Championships.

[FloridaMan88]

Florida barely getting by FAU, Georgia losing to Georgia Southern, South Carolina defeated by The Citadel… SEC! SEC! SEC!

Yes I know my team is in an inferior conference (the ACC), but fans of ACC teams don't go around blindly proclaiming how great their conference is like SEC fans do.

[BigMeatballDave]

Ohio State lost at home to a team with a backup QB, despite winning the TO battle 2-0?

#fraud

They are already National Champions.

They beat Oregon and Alabama. Can't win them all.

Suck it, Hater. :D

[NewChief]

Damn... Zeke Elliot comments are brutal. ****ing implosion of that team.

And couldn't happen to a more deserving program.

Buck the fuckeyes.

[Prison Bitch]

42 from TCU should be taken out back behind the stadium and shot in the head for that spear

[Bambi]

TCU, shit players for a shit program

What a disgrace to the conference

[BigMeatballDave]

Oh and Ohio State is the real fraud. Lost to a back up at home.LMAO

Butthurt much? Who won the National Championship last season?

[Bambi]

Hilarious how there was NO concussion protocol whatsoever for Baker Mayfield after that play.

CFB is a joke.

[FloridaMan88]

LMAO

Butthurt much? Who won the National Championship last season?

What does that do for you this season?

[LiveSteam]

LMAO

Butthurt much? Who won the National Championship last season?

Knees. His knees bleed.

[BigMeatballDave]

Damn... Zeke Elliot comments are brutal. ****ing implosion of that team.

And couldn't happen to a more deserving program.

Buck the fuckeyes.

LMAO When was Arkansas' last national title?

Let the hate flow. :D

[LiveSteam]

Damn... Zeke Elliot comments are brutal. ****ing implosion of that team.

And couldn't happen to a more deserving program.

Buck the fuckeyes.

Link if you can please. Or paraphrase

[Bambi]

Link if you can please. Or paraphrase

Said there's no way he's coming back next year.

Said the playcalling didn't put them in a position to succeed.

Oh...and that he was "in the hospital" Monday, Tuesday AND Wednesday of this week but no one knew about it.

lol

[BigMeatballDave]

What does that do for you this season?

Still butthurt about your 02 championship loss? :D

[Sassy Squatch]

Jesus, Elliot is kind of a moron.

[BigMeatballDave]

Said there's no way he's coming back next year.

Said the playcalling didn't put them in a position to succeed.

Oh...and that he was "in the hospital" Monday, Tuesday AND Wednesday of this week but no one knew about it.

lolKinda sounds like BS on his part.

However, the play calling was atrocious. Reid-like.

[BigMeatballDave]

He probably should enter the draft. RBs don't have a long life in the NFL.

[FloridaMan88]

Still butthurt about your 02 championship loss? :D

What loss? Miami won that game… aside from the gift pass interference call Ohio State was provided.

[DaKCMan AP]

Sounds like an urban meyer run program. Cue the esophageal spasms in 3....2....

[notorious]

Elliott....:facepalm:


Ummm, Meyer is one of the best coaches in college football history, dumbass.

[BigMeatballDave]

What loss? Miami won that game… aside from the gift pass interference call Ohio State was provided.

ROFL

[KCCHIEFS27]

Elliott....:facepalm:


Ummm, Meyer is one of the best coaches in college football history, dumbass.

I know this won't happen, but I would love to see Urban hand him the ball on every single play next game. No breaks even if he signals to the sideline for one. Don't care if there's 9 or 10 guys on defense in the box. Hand him the ball. Urban has the perfect excuse. "Everybody heard he was going pro, right? I'm just trying to get him as many reps as possible."

[BWillie]

I think the top 4 this week will be:

Mich St, Clemson, Bama, and ND*.

If ND loses to BC replace with Oklahoma.

LOL

There is zero percent chance Iowa is not in the Top 4.

Purdue almost beat Mighty Mich State. Iowa beat them by 3 TDs.

Northwestern has more quality victories than OSU at this pt.

[Bambi]

lol, well that all fell apart quick

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[GloucesterChief]

I feel bad for Jones. He has talent just not in the system Urban Meyer wants to run.

[notorious]

Baylor has doubled up on OkSt's total yards.


652 to 323 currently.

[GloucesterChief]

Wazzu and Colorado about to kickoff.

[Prison Bitch]

Wazzu and Colorado about to kickoff.

Nobody cares

[kcpasco]

Nobody cares

Hey I do, my wife went to WSU.

[Bambi]

Nobody cares

Petro talks all the time about how he wants the Big 12 or KU, or whoever to go west instead of east in regards to conference affiliation.

He's some kind of weirdo who thinks people actually stay up til 3 in the morning watching pacific time zone college football and basketball games.

Every time he goes on one of these rants about it I can't help but roll my eyes.

[Prison Bitch]

Petro talks all the time about how he wants the Big 12 or KU, or whoever to go west instead of east in regards to conference affiliation.

He's some kind of weirdo who thinks people actually stay up til 3 in the morning watching pacific time zone college football and basketball games.

Every time he goes on one of these rants about it I can't help but roll my eyes.

Can you even imagine playing those schools in hoops?


Here comes Wazzu
Here comes Oregon State
Arizona State baby!

[Bambi]

Can you even imagine playing those schools in hoops?


Here comes Wazzu
Here comes Oregon State
Arizona State baby!

No. I cannot. Whenever I'm in California sports (especially collegiate) are the furthest thing from my mind.

[lewdog]

The Irish win.

All their fans who have never been to Indiana rejoice!

[kcpasco]

Ya Lawrence to the Pacific Northwest is one long ass road trip. It makes no sense geographically. But the plus side is you get to visit the Northwest.

[notorious]

At least the biggest fraud in the country, OkSt, is getting exposed tonight.

[Prison Bitch]

No. I cannot. Whenever I'm in California sports (especially collegiate) are the furthest thing from my mind.

I was wrong, all 3 played us at Sprint Center recently. Gross.

Now back to this Baylor beat down

[GloucesterChief]

Can you even imagine playing those schools in hoops?


Here comes Wazzu
Here comes Oregon State
Arizona State baby!

Kansas might actually have some competition with Arizona, UCLA, and Oregon.

[lewdog]

TCU cuts it to 10 with 9 to play.

[tk13]

TCU with the INT and great field position. Chance to get right back into it.

[lewdog]

Down near the red zone for TCU.

[tk13]

TCU will have a shot to tie it, 4 minutes to go.

[lewdog]

Good finish here

[notorious]

Spot the ball where the slide begins.

[Prison Bitch]

Kansas might actually have some competition with Arizona, UCLA, and Oregon.

Oregon???

[DaNewGuy]

Nice catch

[tk13]

Touchdown. TCU going for 2 and the lead.

[lewdog]

Oh my!!!!

[DaNewGuy]

Dumb

[Pablo]

Good effort Failfrogs. Good game.

[tk13]

Big 12 had to be sweating bullets there. That would've really put a crimp in their playoff hopes.

[GloucesterChief]

Oregon???

The 25th ranked team in the country.

[GloucesterChief]

Touchdown. TCU going for 2 and the lead.

Even Mike Leach isn't that aggressive.

[O.city]

McCaffrey for heisman?

[Great Expectations]

I think it should be:

1 Clemson
2 Iowa
3 Alabama
4 Oklahoma

But Notre Dame is too valuable to leave out if they beat Stanford who doesn't look very good against Cal tonight.

[jonzie04]

McCaffrey for heisman?

Dude is a savage.

[Toby Waller]

I think it should be:

1 Clemson
2 Iowa
3 Alabama
4 Oklahoma

But Notre Dame is too valuable to leave out if they beat Stanford who doesn't look very good against Cal tonight.

Michigan will be in soon

[LoneWolf]

I think it should be:

1 Clemson
2 Iowa
3 Alabama
4 Oklahoma

But Notre Dame is too valuable to leave out if they beat Stanford who doesn't look very good against Cal tonight.

So Oklahoma's win over a horrible TCU team in a game that should have gone into OT should cause them to jump ND?

[jspchief]

Michigan will be in soon
No 2 loss team is getting in.

[Why Not?]

No 2 loss team is getting in.

Michigan had a slim chance had they beaten an undefeated OSU and an undefeated Iowa. MSU had the ultimate kill shot. Eliminated both OSU and Michigan in the same game.

[notorious]

So Oklahoma's win over a horrible TCU team in a game that should have gone into OT should cause them to jump ND?

Who has ND beaten other than Navy?

They barely beat a REAL shitty BC team this week.

See how this works?

[notorious]

I think MSU deserves a shot over all the other one loss teams. They are the best team in the Big 10.

[El Jefe]

Michigan will be in soon

Michigan will not get in. I think even if they lucked into the b10cg and won they still wouldn't get in with two losses. Two weeks ago if you would have asked me about how confident I was for The game, I would have said pretty confident. After how we played last night, I don't see how we win. We got out coached, out played and out done, we did not deserve that game, it was embarrassing. We have played like shit all year and as we all knew it would, it finally caught us. Urban needs to take a look at the offensive staff because we have way too much talent to field such garbage, which points to coaching. Last year was great, this year has been brutal to watch.

[notorious]

Michigan State
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame

[jspchief]

I think MSU deserves a shot over all the other one loss teams. They are the best team in the Big 10.
Until they lose to Iowa

[notorious]

Until they lose to Iowa

LMAO

We really don't know what Iowa is.

[jspchief]

LMAO

We really don't know what Iowa is.
We will if they win the Big10 cg

[notorious]

We will if they win the Big10 cg

No kidding?

[displacedinMN]

Clemson
Iowa
Notre Dame (hate that)
Alabama

No particular order.


As I watched games last night, there was NO defense. Iowa plays defense. They will give some team some fits. Look at MSU and what they did to OSU. MSU plays defense.

[Great Expectations]

So Oklahoma's win over a horrible TCU team in a game that should have gone into OT should cause them to jump ND?

I think Oklahoma is better. They dominated the game prior to their QB getting hurt. BC is an awful team. OU would be 4 or 5 point favorites over ND in Vegas.

Also OU dominating at Baylor, beating ranked TCU, and playing at OSU (if they win) is superior to anything ND will have done.

[Saul Good]

I think Oklahoma is better. They dominated the game prior to their QB getting hurt. BC is an awful team. OU would be 4 or 5 point favorites over ND in Vegas.

Also OU dominating at Baylor, beating ranked TCU, and playing at OSU (if they win) is superior to anything ND will have done.

Oklahoma's QB getting injured isn't an excuse. TCU's QB missed the whole game along with Doctson, and they just beat a Baylor team with an injured QB. TCU has 2 stars, and neither of them played.

Oklahoma has 2 wins that took a ton of luck to scrape by and a loss to a terrible Texas team.

Clemson
Alabama
Michigan State
Notre Dame

Iowa
Oklahoma
Baylor
Florida

[Trivers]

Oklahoma's QB getting injured isn't an excuse. TCU's QB missed the whole game along with Doctson, and they just beat a Baylor team with an injured QB. TCU has 2 stars, and neither of them played.

Oklahoma has 2 wins that took a ton of luck to scrape by and a loss to a terrible Texas team.

Clemson
Alabama
Michigan State
Notre Dame

Iowa
Oklahoma
Baylor
Florida

Still drunk from last night? ROFL

[LoneWolf]

Who has ND beaten other than Navy?

They barely beat a REAL shitty BC team this week.

See how this works?

ND played bad yesterday. They had 5 turnovers in the first half, I believe. Plus, the game was played on a neutral site.

The committee has already had them at #4. My comment was based on what did Oklahoma do this week that would cause them to jump a ND team that was already ranked ahead of them.

[LoneWolf]

I think Oklahoma is better. They dominated the game prior to their QB getting hurt. BC is an awful team. OU would be 4 or 5 point favorites over ND in Vegas.

Also OU dominating at Baylor, beating ranked TCU, and playing at OSU (if they win) is superior to anything ND will have done.

The only reason TCU was ever ranked this season was based on past performance. You do realize ND has played the majority of the season with their backup QB and they lost their stud starting RB in yesterday's game. Not a chance in hell OU is a 5 point favorite against ND.

[displacedinMN]

the committee has basically said
Iowa is a balanced team. If Iowa continues to win, They are in.

Herbstreit can suck it.

[vailpass]

We will if they win the Big10 cg

:IA: yep

[DaKCMan AP]

Playoff will be:

Clemson (unless they lose)
SEC Champ (unless Florida loses to Florida State and beats Alabama)
Big 10 Champ (unless Iowa loses to Nebraska and beats Michigan State)

Last spot...
Notre Dame or Baylor/Oklahoma

[vailpass]

Playoff will be:

Clemson (unless they lose)
SEC Champ (unless Florida loses to Florida State and beats Alabama)
Big 10 Champ (unless Iowa loses to Nebraska and beats Michigan State)

Last spot...
Notre Dame or Baylor/Oklahoma

Great year for college ball. Unless you're PAC...

[GloucesterChief]

Great year for college ball. Unless you're PAC...

Pac is a solid conference this year. Just not top heavy with one or two dominant teams. The top 5 in the conference is as good as any other. They just beat each other up and had some injury issues.

[Prison Bitch]

Playoff will be:

Clemson (unless they lose)
SEC Champ (unless Florida loses to Florida State and beats Alabama)
Big 10 Champ (unless Iowa loses to Nebraska and beats Michigan State)

Last spot...
Notre Dame or Baylor/Oklahoma

Florida in the playoff would be a joke

[Great Expectations]

I'm on a mobile device, but this is after last Saturday. I don't think OU would receive much of a hit here after TCU, but ND probably would after BC.

RJ Bell
RJ Bell – Verified account ‏@RJinVegas

Vegas Top 10 (College FB)
1) Alabama
2) Ohio St
3) Clemson
4) Baylor
5) Oklahoma
6) Stanford
7) Oklahoma St
8) Notre Dame
9) TCU
10) LSU

[Saul Good]

Florida in the playoff would be a joke

Not if they beat Florida State and Alabama to finish the season. (They won't.)

[Prison Bitch]

Not a chance in hell OU is a 5 point favorite against ND.

You're right, it would be more like 8:
http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

[DaKCMan AP]

Florida in the playoff would be a joke

I don't expect it, but if they make it they'll likely have more top 25 wins than any other playoff teams and they would have earned it.

[LoneWolf]

You're right, it would be more like 8:
http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

ROFL Sagarin ROFL. Keep beating that drum.

[Prison Bitch]

ROFL Sagarin ROFL. Keep beating that drum.

OU would be heavily favored against the Golden Flamers. Truth hurts, doesn't it?

[displacedinMN]

I'm on a mobile device, but this is after last Saturday. I don't think OU would receive much of a hit here after TCU, but ND probably would after BC.

RJ Bell
RJ Bell – Verified account ‏@RJinVegas

Vegas Top 10 (College FB)
1) Alabama
2) Ohio St
3) Clemson
4) Baylor
5) Oklahoma
6) Stanford
7) Oklahoma St
8) Notre Dame
9) TCU
10) LSU

Because most of them dont know where Iowa is. That is ok.

[LoneWolf]

OU would be heavily favored against the Golden Flamers. Truth hurts, doesn't it?

If it was the truth, it would hurt. I would also make a ton of money betting on the game, so I guess it wouldn't hurt that bad.

[notorious]

Alabama would only be -45 if they played Kansas?


Sign me up!

[Saul Good]

Sagarin has Iowa 17th...sandwiched between a couple of 7-4 teams.

[Prison Bitch]

If it was the truth, it would hurt. I would also make a ton of money betting on the game, so I guess it wouldn't hurt that bad.

You would've gotten killed taking the Flamers last night.

[LoneWolf]

You would've gotten killed taking the Flamers last night.

I would never bet on a ND vs. Boston College game. Historically weird shit has happened and the games usually are close. ND was fortunate to win. You don't normally win a game when you have 5 turnovers.

[Toby Waller]

Michigan had a slim chance had they beaten an undefeated OSU and an undefeated Iowa. MSU had the ultimate kill shot. Eliminated both OSU and Michigan in the same game.

How about a 2 loss team with a conference championship? If They'll beat Ohio State and Iowa

[LoneWolf]

How about a 2 loss team with a conference championship? If They'll beat Ohio State and Iowa

A two loss team isn't making the playoff.

[jspchief]

How about a 2 loss team with a conference championship? If They'll beat Ohio State and Iowa
I think a 1 loss Oklahoma and Notre Dame get in before a 2 loss Michigan.

[lewdog]

Put ND in there for all I care. Nothing sweeter than seeing them get pounded on the biggest stage.

Thanks 2012 National Champion Alabama. That was a great memory!

[Great Expectations]

SEC is the only conference that has a chance of getting a 2 loss team in and that is still very unlikely.

[Toby Waller]

A two loss team isn't making the playoff.

And since when were
these selections based on any form of universal common sense logic that anyone or everyone understood or agreed with? They can decide that no other team is stronger and the right and wrong teams can lose and win in the next 2 weeks.

[Prison Bitch]

I remember how great the BCS was. Rules laid out, weekly updates of the criteria, public knew all. Then the Playoff "secret committee" came - based on the KGB style of secrecy - pulling it in house and became the deciders. Sad, and stupid.

[jonzie04]

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Kcnative it will be alright...

Lol I really shouldn't joke like this. I've had a lot of these moments myself. ROFL

[displacedinMN]

Coaches poll

IOWA #3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[keg in kc]

Our only shot getting in was beating two top 5 undefeateds to end the year. We really fucked ourselves dropping that punt against Michigan State and then they re-fucked us yesterday afternoon by dropping the fuckeyes. 'Course I think we we always going to lose next week anyway so it'll all be moot anyway. Either way the playoffs are over for us now. Have to be satisfied with winning 8-10 games this year and looking toward the future.

[notorious]

Our only shot getting in was beating two top 5 undefeateds to end the year. We really fucked ourselves dropping that punt against Michigan State and then they re-fucked us yesterday afternoon by dropping the fuckeyes. 'Course I think we we always going to lose next week anyway so it'll all be moot anyway. Either way the playoffs are over for us now. Have to be satisfied with winning 8-10 games this year and looking toward the future.

Michigan's future is incredibly bright.


Your day will come, soon.

[BWillie]

Im tired of ppl citing the eye test. Thats bullshit. The goal shouldnt be to put in the teams that you THINK are the best based on predictive data or thru viewing of games, the goal should be to put in teams that earned it. If some team won every game by one and were just really lucky they still deserve to be #1 because they earned it. Its like when Arrieta won the Cy young over Greinke because he had a better xfip. Thats not a real thing, its a predictive tool. Its infuriating. Its the same reason nobody should ever cite kenpom for college bball seeding either.

[BWillie]

I think these things will all work themselves out. I really think a 1loss Big 12 champion jumps ND. Then, maybe those assclowns will join a conference. I think Stanford is gonna roll ND next week. NDs best win is vs Navy. Im sure Navy is actually good lol

Clemson (assuming they win out)
Big Ten Champ (unless its Mich)
Big 12 Champ (If 1 loss team)
SEC champ

[ChiTown]

Paul Rhoads appears to be getting his walking papers today. That's what losing to K-State gets you these days. ROFL:deevee:

[keg in kc]

I'd say big 12 champion only if it's OU with the one loss.

And Iowa's probably in for a rude awakening whoever ends up winning our division. I think they lose no matter whether it's osu, msu or u of m.

[Saul Good]

I think these things will all work themselves out. I really think a 1loss Big 12 champion jumps ND. Then, maybe those assclowns will join a conference. I think Stanford is gonna roll ND next week. NDs best win is vs Navy. Im sure Navy is actually good lol

Clemson (assuming they win out)
Big Ten Champ (unless its Mich)
Big 12 Champ (If 1 loss team)
SEC champ

If Notre Dame wins, they're in. Oklahoma isn't getting in over Notre Dame after the Irish beat Texas 38-3.

[BryanBusby]

I think these things will all work themselves out. I really think a 1loss Big 12 champion jumps ND. Then, maybe those assclowns will join a conference. I think Stanford is gonna roll ND next week. NDs best win is vs Navy. Im sure Navy is actually good lol

Clemson (assuming they win out)
Big Ten Champ (unless its Mich)
Big 12 Champ (If 1 loss team)
SEC champ
If they lose to Stanford, yeah. If they win, they are in.

Alabama will be in it, nobody is beating Clemson so they are in.

In that scenario, it could come down to Michigan State and Oklahoma. I know who I'd choose.

[BWillie]

I'd say big 12 champion only if it's OU with the one loss.

And Iowa's probably in for a rude awakening whoever ends up winning our division. I think they lose no matter whether it's osu, msu or u of m.
I dont think thats necessarily the case. I think Ohio State is actually the best team in the Big Ten followed by Michigan and then Mich St/Iowa. Mich State deserves to be where they are at but they should have lost to Mich. It took a grace from god for them to win. Ohio state, on paper, didnt even have as good of a schedule as Iowa did before they played Mich State. This could be a blessing in disguise for Iowa because they get to play the 3rd best B1G team, rather than the 1st OSU or 2nd Mich (at least in my eyes)
If Notre Dame wins, they're in. Oklahoma isn't getting in over Notre Dame after the Irish beat Texas 38-3.

[BWillie]

If Notre Dame wins, they're in. Oklahoma isn't getting in over Notre Dame after the Irish beat Texas 38-3.
I think ND should be left out if Oklahoma runs the table. You shouldnt get the benefit of the doubt by playing less games, and when the other team has more quality victories than you.

[LoneWolf]

I think ND should be left out if Oklahoma runs the table. You shouldnt get the benefit of the doubt by playing less games, and when the other team has more quality victories than you.


If ND and OU both win out, there resumes will be very similar. OU losing to Texas will probably keep them out. Of all the one loss teams, ND has the "best" loss.

[BryanBusby]

I think ND should be left out if Oklahoma runs the table. You shouldnt get the benefit of the doubt by playing less games, and when the other team has more quality victories than you.
Who they lost to and Notre Dame bias is going to keep Oklahoma in the cold. Mostly Notre Dame bias.

Their one loss could have been to a ranked squad and it would still be an uphill battle.

[BWillie]

If ND and OU both win out, there resumes will be very similar. OU losing to Texas will probably keep them out. Of all the one loss teams, ND has the "best" loss.
Dont think we should focus so much on how bad a loss is. But how good your wins are.

[tk13]

Who they lost to and Notre Dame bias is going to keep Oklahoma in the cold. Mostly Notre Dame bias.

Their one loss could have been to a ranked squad and it would still be an uphill battle.

And the fact that the one OU loss was against a team that Notre Dame wiped out. Obviously rivalry games are a different beast... but I think it's going to be hard to put those two resumes next to each other and ignore it.

[LoneWolf]

Dont think we should focus so much on how bad a loss is. But how good your wins are.

How good are OU's wins? So far the Baylor win is looking good, but that was against their backup QB.

[BryanBusby]

And the fact that the one OU loss was against a team that Notre Dame wiped out. Obviously rivalry games are a different beast... but I think it's going to be hard to put those two resumes next to each other and ignore it.
A Big XII team has no impact on ND if they beat Stanford, so I wouldn't take the time to compare resumes.

They will be fighting the b1g champion for the last spot.

[notorious]

How good are OU's wins? So far the Baylor win is looking good, but that was against their backup QB.

You keep bringing up the backup QB. The Baylor backup QB went into (vastly over rated) OkSt and put a beat down on them.

Michigan States backup QB beat Ohio State.


Players get injured all the time. Shit happens.

[Coach]

Paul Rhoads appears to be getting his walking papers today. That's what losing to K-State gets you these days. ROFL:deevee:

http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14193004/iowa-state-cyclones-fire-paul-rhoads

[kstater]

Didn't they just sign Rhodes to an eleventy billion year contract?

[BWillie]

You keep bringing up the backup QB. The Baylor backup QB went into (vastly over rated) OkSt and put a beat down on them.

Michigan States backup QB beat Ohio State.


Players get injured all the time. Shit happens.
My thoughts exactly

[El Jefe]

You keep bringing up the backup QB. The Baylor backup QB went into (vastly over rated) OkSt and put a beat down on them.

Michigan States backup QB beat Ohio State.


Players get injured all the time. Shit happens.

So true, injuries happen, next man up. We won the national championship with a 3rd string QB last year, and we lost our shot at the playoffs at the hands of a 2nd string QB, that's how the chips fall. Excuses are lame.

[WhawhaWhat]

New AP Top 25 (http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll) -

1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Iowa
4. Notre Dame
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. Oklahoma State
10. Florida.

[LoneWolf]

So true, injuries happen, next man up. We won the national championship with a 3rd string QB last year, and we lost our shot at the playoffs at the hands of a 2nd string QB, that's how the chips fall. Excuses are lame.

Who was making excuses for anything? I was making the point that OU's win vs. Baylor is less impressive than it would have been if Baylor would have had their starting QB who was having a Heisman worthy season.

[Great Expectations]

New AP Top 25 (http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll) -

1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Iowa
4. Notre Dame
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. Oklahoma State
10. Florida.

It appears that everyone outside of South Bend knows that beating OSU and Baylor on the road is moar impressive than the ND wins. Add in TCU at home and at Tenn and it should be an easy decision. Add in the "eye test" and it shouldn't be close. Vegas isn't biased, look to them for who the best teams are.

[BWillie]

It appears that everyone outside of South Bend knows that beating OSU and Baylor on the road is moar impressive than the ND wins. Add in TCU at home and at Tenn and it should be an easy decision. Add in the "eye test" and it shouldn't be close. Vegas isn't biased, look to them for who the best teams are.

The eye test and Vegas may decide technically who the best team is, regardless of Wins or Losses, but why should that be the criteria for putting together the play off? Shouldnt you have to earn it? Alabama is the best team, but they lost to an unranked team. Dont lose to unranked teams.

[DaKCMan AP]

The eye test and Vegas may decide technically who the best team is, regardless of Wins or Losses, but why should that be the criteria for putting together the play off? Shouldnt you have to earn it? Alabama is the best team, but they lost to an unranked team. Dont lose to unranked teams.

Alabama didn't lose to an unranked team.

[LoneWolf]

Alabama didn't lose to an unranked team.

Oklahoma did.

[BWillie]

Truth be told, Michigan State and Oklahoma have the best wins out of the one loss teams. Theres no way, no way ND should be ranked ahead of them.

[Saul Good]

The eye test and Vegas may decide technically who the best team is, regardless of Wins or Losses, but why should that be the criteria for putting together the play off? Shouldnt you have to earn it? Alabama is the best team, but they lost to an unranked team. Dont lose to unranked teams.

The only team in contention that lost to an unranked team is Oklahoma. Texas is likely going to be 4-8. Notre Dame destroyed them. Oklahoma lost to them. There is no legit case for Oklahoma over Notre Dame. The Texas game is the dagger. You can't get around it.

[BWillie]

The only team in contention that lost to an unranked team is Oklahoma. Texas is likely going to be 4-8. Notre Dame destroyed them. Oklahoma lost to them. There is no legit case for Oklahoma over Notre Dame. The Texas game is the dagger. You can't get around it.
Quality wins i suppose. I dont personally consider them quality wins but as long a ppl still perceive the B12 as the 2nd best conference in America, they have more quality wins than ND. I would fully expect ND to actually beat OU but thats not the pt of this exercise

[Saul Good]

Quality wins i suppose. I dont personally consider them quality wins but as long a ppl still perceive the B12 as the 2nd best conference in America, they have more quality wins than ND. I would fully expect ND to actually beat OU but thats not the pt of this exercise

The quality of their wins is debatable. The quality of their losses isn't. The fact that Notre Dame destroyed Texas trumps any possible argument for Oklahoma.

[Prison Bitch]

The only team in contention that lost to an unranked team is Oklahoma. Texas is likely going to be 4-8. Notre Dame destroyed them. Oklahoma lost to them. There is no legit case for Oklahoma over Notre Dame. The Texas game is the dagger. You can't get around it.

Stupid. OU is the better team. That is the only "legit case".

[Saul Good]

Stupid. OU is the better team. That is the only "legit case".

Better team doesn't matter. Better body of work matters.

[BWillie]

Stupid. OU is the better team. That is the only "legit case".
Actually, which team you think, or anybody thinks is better should be irrelevant. Only their resumes, Ws and Ls should matter. If you want to be in the playoff dont lose football games

[Prison Bitch]

Better team doesn't matter. Better body of work matters.

OU has a better body of work. But you used that last year for FSU and they were annihilated in the playoff. Same will happen to the Flamers.

[jspchief]

Dont think we should focus so much on how bad a loss is. But how good your wins are.
Why should a bad loss be dismissed? A team can't control their schedule. They have minimal control of the W/L column of their opponents. The one thing they have absolute control over is who they lose to.

Stop losing to shit teams like Texas, then you can start bragging up your wins.

[Great Expectations]

This is true, but over the top

http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14192474/which-teams-impressed-college-football-playoff-committee-which-ones-disappointed

[LoneWolf]

This is true, but over the top

http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14192474/which-teams-impressed-college-football-playoff-committee-which-ones-disappointed

Finebaum is a known Irish hater. It's laughable that he calls OU's win over a "gritty" TCU team impressive and then mentions their wins against Tennessee, West Virginia, and Texas Tech as big points on their resume. TCU has been proven to be a huge fraud that was propped up by an extremely weak early schedule and Tennessee, West Virginia, and Texas Tech are no better than ND's wins against Temple, Georgia Tech, and Pittsburgh.

[Great Expectations]

Finebaum is a known Irish hater. It's laughable that he calls OU's win over a "gritty" TCU team impressive and then mentions their wins against Tennessee, West Virginia, and Texas Tech as big points on their resume. TCU has been proven to be a huge fraud that was propped up by an extremely weak early schedule and Tennessee, West Virginia, and Texas Tech are no better than ND's wins against Temple, Georgia Tech, and Pittsburgh.

Finebaum is a known hater of every team outside of the SEC, but he especially hates OU. It's to the point that the OU coaches mention how much he hates OU during interviews. He called Bob Stoops irrelevant a year or two ago. Here is a quote from September:

Following the win against the Volunteers, OU defensive coordinator Mike Stoops was asked about his player’s comment. He proceeded to call out SEC media king Paul Finebaum.


Mike Stoops on Striker’s SEC blast: “What he said was nothing out of the ordinary. Paul Finebaum slanders us every time he’s on radio.”

— Guerin Emig (@GuerinEmig) September 13, 2015

[KC native]

I love how some of the people defending an Ohio State team that lost to Virginia Tech last year are now saying that Oklahoma should be excluded because of a loss to Texas.

[BWillie]

I love how some of the people defending an Ohio State team that lost to Virginia Tech last year are now saying that Oklahoma should be excluded because of a loss to Texas.

I don't know why people had Ohio State rated so high to begin with. They hadn't accomplished shit THIS YEAR. It's the exact reason why these rankings shouldn't come out until the end of the year. Name recognition like Ohio State and ND holds too much weight, when it shouldn't matter at all.

People were all bagging on Iowa's schedule, well, before Ohio State played Michigan State they had an EASIER schedule and no good wins compared to the 3 Top 30 wins Iowa had put together (Pittsburgh, Wisconsin, N-Western). Yet nobody was really bagging on Ohio States schedule.

I think the Big 12 is complete garbage. Complete and utter shit. But if the masses believe the Big 12 is a good conference, then there is no reason Notre Dame, Ohio State should be ahead of them. Michigan State probably has an argument for the 4th spot as well, but Notre Dame sure as shit doesn't.

[KC native]

I don't know why people had Ohio State rated so high to begin with. They hadn't accomplished shit THIS YEAR. It's the exact reason why these rankings shouldn't come out until the end of the year. Name recognition like Ohio State and ND holds too much weight, when it shouldn't matter at all.

People were all bagging on Iowa's schedule, well, before Ohio State played Michigan State they had an EASIER schedule and no good wins compared to the 2 wins Iowa had put together. Yet nobody was really bagging on Ohio States schedule.

I think the Big 12 is complete garbage. Complete and utter shit. But if the masses believe the Big 12 is a good conference, then there is no reason Notre Dame, Ohio State should be ahead of them. Michigan State probably has an argument for the 4th spot.

You think the Big 12 is shit because your CFB takes are as shitty as LoneWolf's.

Aside from that, I was referencing last year. There were a ton of posters who were excusing Ohio State's loss to a fucking awful Virginia Tech team but are now saying it should be a disqualifier for Oklahoma and it is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

[Prison Bitch]

The good news is we can finally stop referring to the SEC as the best conference. The SEC-West is the #1 division and the SEC-Least is #9. The West would be favored over the Big 12 (#2) by -3.5 and by -8.5 over the Least. (When your top team Florida has to rally at home for last second wins over Vandy + Florida Atlantic....)



Side note: if you took out Kansas, the remaining 9 Big 12 teams are almost identical to the SEC-West, at under -0.5 points projected margin. So Kansas basically played an entire West slate this year.

[Saul Good]

You think the Big 12 is shit because your CFB takes are as shitty as LoneWolf's.

Aside from that, I was referencing last year. There were a ton of posters who were excusing Ohio State's loss to a fucking awful Virginia Tech team but are now saying it should be a disqualifier for Oklahoma and it is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

Virginia Tech win a bowl game last year. They weren't awful. Texas will be fortunate to get more than 4 wins. Plus, Notre Dame destroyed them.

None of this matters, though. There will be multiple losses by teams in the playoffs mix before the season is over.

Notre Dame likely loses at Standard.
Alabama still has Auburn and Florida.
Oklahoma loses to State if Mayfield isn't 100%.
Nebraska isn't a gimme for Iowa.

It will all sort itself out, but Oklahoma loses the tie breakers. They need to win and get help.

[Prison Bitch]

You think the Big 12 is shit because your CFB takes are as shitty as LoneWolf's.

Aside from that, I was referencing last year. There were a ton of posters who were excusing Ohio State's loss to a ****ing awful Virginia Tech team but are now saying it should be a disqualifier for Oklahoma and it is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

It might actually help the Big 12 this year that they were left out last year. Esp with OU in line. They are mean people there. They won't be wallflowers.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't know why people had Ohio State rated so high to begin with. They hadn't accomplished shit THIS YEAR. It's the exact reason why these rankings shouldn't come out until the end of the year. Name recognition like Ohio State and ND holds too much weight, when it shouldn't matter at all.

People were all bagging on Iowa's schedule, well, before Ohio State played Michigan State they had an EASIER schedule and no good wins compared to the 3 Top 30 wins Iowa had put together (Pittsburgh, Wisconsin, N-Western). Yet nobody was really bagging on Ohio States schedule.

I think the Big 12 is complete garbage. Complete and utter shit. But if the masses believe the Big 12 is a good conference, then there is no reason Notre Dame, Ohio State should be ahead of them. Michigan State probably has an argument for the 4th spot as well, but Notre Dame sure as shit doesn't.FFS Ohio State won the NC last season. The previous season's NC is almost always the preseason #1.

Have you been under a rock for the last decade? People ALWAYS bag on Ohio State's schedule.

But keep crying about the National Champion Ohio State Buckeyes! Your tears are tasty :D

[BigMeatballDave]

I love how some of the people defending THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP Ohio State team that lost to Virginia Tech last year are now saying that Oklahoma should be excluded because of a loss to Texas.
FIXED! :D

[LoneWolf]

You think the Big 12 is shit because your CFB takes are as shitty as LoneWolf's.

Aside from that, I was referencing last year. There were a ton of posters who were excusing Ohio State's loss to a fucking awful Virginia Tech team but are now saying it should be a disqualifier for Oklahoma and it is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

Someone who has stated that TCU is a good team and that Boykin will be a good QB in the NFL should really shut the fuck up about other posters CFB opinions.

[KC native]

Someone who has stated that TCU is a good team and that Boykin will be a good QB in the NFL should really shut the fuck up about other posters CFB opinions.

Yet another demonstration of your shit football takes.

[LoneWolf]

Yet another demonstration of your shit football takes.

Hey, retard, dispute what I've said instead of acting like a dipshit. You have disputed nothing or added anything except calling other posters opinions stupid.

[KC native]

Hey, retard, dispute what I've said instead of acting like a dipshit. You have disputed nothing or added anything except calling other posters opinions stupid.

Because your opinion is shit and you haven't made one fucking point other than, "they suck because I say so."

Clearly, we should all believe you that Boykin isn't any good when he's a Heisman candidate and has phenomenal numbers and that we shouldn't believe TCU isn't a good team despite losing several starters and losing two games. :rolleyes:

Like I said, stick to being a holier-than-thou, wannabe traffic cop in the non-football topics. Your shit opinions are at least shared with a few other idiots in those threads. You suck at football opinion. Hell, you suck at everything. You are a shit-tier poster and will remain a shit-tier poster for the rest of you miserable, boring life.

[LoneWolf]

Because your opinion is shit and you haven't made one fucking point other than, "they suck because I say so."

Clearly, we should all believe you that Boykin isn't any good when he's a Heisman candidate and has phenomenal numbers and that we shouldn't believe TCU isn't a good team despite losing several starters and losing two games. :rolleyes:

Like I said, stick to being a holier-than-thou, wannabe traffic cop in the non-football topics. Your shit opinions are at least shared with a few other idiots in those threads. You suck at football opinion. Hell, you suck at everything. You are a shit-tier poster and will remain a shit-tier poster for the rest of you miserable, boring life.

Hey, wetback, Notre Dame lost their starting QB, best DB, and their Heisman hopeful running back and they're still winning games. None of the NFL scouts believe Boykin can play QB in the NFL. These are facts you drooling retard.

[KC native]

Hey, wetback, Notre Dame lost their starting QB, best DB, and their Heisman hopeful running back and they're still winning games. None of the NFL scouts believe Boykin can play QB in the NFL. These are facts you drooling retard.

Wow, way to be a racist bitch. You get called out on your bullshit football opinions and then immediately go to racial slurs.

Notre Dame has a shit schedule and lost to the only decent team they've played.

Now you should kill yourself since you fucking suck at life.

Edit: and you're not even good at bringing up the injury card. TCU has lost their best corner, safety, both starting LBers, various OL and DL, and was without their Heisman candidate QB and WR for one of their losses. You really fucking suck at this.

[LoneWolf]

Wow, way to be a racist bitch. You get called out on your bullshit football opinions and then immediately go to racial slurs.

Notre Dame has a shit schedule and lost to the only decent team they've played.

Now you should kill yourself since you fucking suck at life.

TCU would have 5 losses if they had played ND's schedule.

Go fuck yourself.

[KC native]

TCU would have 5 losses if they had played ND's schedule.

Go fuck yourself.

No, they wouldn't. Notre Dame's schedule is garbage.

BTW, how's it feel to be a Prison Bitch quality poster?

[LoneWolf]

No, they wouldn't. Notre Dame's schedule is garbage.

BTW, how's it feel to be a Prison Bitch quality poster?

How does it feel to be a BlackOp quality poster? If you think TCU has any quality wins this year you're bat shit crazy. Their early schedule was charming soft and they have been proven to be frauds. Own it you soft bitch.

[KC native]

How does it feel to be a BlackOp quality poster? If you think TCU has any quality wins this year you're bat shit crazy. Their early schedule was charming soft and they have been proven to be frauds. Own it you soft bitch.

Fucking hilarious that you're backing away from your claims and attempting to shift the goal posts.

Shit football opinions from a feeble-minded poster who has to resort to racial slurs when he gets called out on his shit football opinions.

[The Franchise]

TCU's schedule combined wins and losses: 63 - 65

Notre Dame's schedule combined wins and losses: 72 - 58

[KC native]

TCU's schedule combined wins and losses: 63 - 65

Notre Dame's schedule combined wins and losses: 72 - 58

Not everyone gets to play in the cakewalk ACC and the shit OOC opponents that they schedule.

If TCU played Notre Dame's schedule they'd be undefeated right now.

[The Franchise]

Not everyone gets to play in the cakewalk ACC and the shit OOC opponents that they schedule.

If TCU played Notre Dame's schedule they'd be undefeated right now.

ROFL TCU would have gotten killed by Clemson.

[The Franchise]

And let me know when Notre Dame gets to play teams like SF Austin, SMU or Kansas.

[KC native]

And let me know when Notre Dame gets to play teams like SF Austin, SMU or Kansas.

They played Navy, BC, Wake Forest, and Massachusetts.

[Prison Bitch]

Not everyone gets to play in the cakewalk ACC and the shit OOC opponents that they schedule.

If TCU played Notre Dame's schedule they'd be undefeated right now.

SOS

Golden Flamers 29
TCU 44


Math is your friend, Tard. Do not fear it.

[The Franchise]

They played Navy, BC, Wake Forest, and Massachusetts.

Navy is 9-1.
Boston College is 8-3.
Wake Forest is 3-8
Massachusetts is 2-9.

So that's two shit teams out of 4.

[KC native]

Navy is 9-1.
Boston College is 8-3.
Wake Forest is 3-8
Massachusetts is 2-9.

So that's two shit teams out of 4.

Navy has played:
colgate
east carolina
uconn
air force
tulane
south florida
memphis
smu

Wake me up when they play more than 1 real team a year.

BC's schedule isn't much better (who knew Maine even had a fb team?).

So 4 shit teams out of 4 shit teams.

[Pablo]

Navy is 9-1.
Boston College is 8-3.
Wake Forest is 3-8
Massachusetts is 2-9.

So that's two shit teams out of 4.Or 3-8.

Depends on how you prefer to read numbers.

[Saul Good]

Navy is 9-1.
Boston College is 8-3.
Wake Forest is 3-8
Massachusetts is 2-9.

So that's two shit teams out of 4.

Boston College being 8-3 is really impressive when you consider that they're on a 7 game losing streak.

[BWillie]

I don't even know what we are arguing about now. But I do know this, there should not be a college football playoff ranking each week. It should be done at the end of the season, based on each teams resume and body of work, like it is in College Basketball.

[The Franchise]

Or 3-8.

Depends on how you prefer to read numbers.

Boston College being 8-3 is really impressive when you consider that they're on a 7 game losing streak.

Lol fuck off. I transposed the numbers.

[Prison Bitch]

I don't even know what we are arguing about now. But I do know this, there should not be a college football playoff ranking each week. It should be done at the end of the season, based on each teams resume and body of work, like it is in College Basketball.

What does "body of work" even mean anyway? Such a stupid phrase. It means nothing. If there isn't data attached to it or metrics people agreed to prior to the season beginning, the phrase means "Nonsensical bullshit I'm making up as I go to support my baseless personal bias"

[BWillie]

What does "body of work" even mean anyway? Such a stupid phrase. It means nothing. If there isn't data attached to it or metrics people agreed to prior to the season beginning, the phrase means "Nonsensical bullshit I'm making up as I go to support my baseless personal bias"

Basically, what occurs now is teams get credit for beating teams that may suck, come the end of the year. Lots of teams are ranked highly in the preseason, and teams get an artificial jump for beating those teams. There wouldn't be these artificial jumps if we did the evaluation based on the entire body of work and resume of each teams at the end of the season. I don't even think the selection committee should even get to see what the team name is, even though I'm sure they could figure it out.

[LoneWolf]

What does "body of work" even mean anyway? Such a stupid phrase. It means nothing. If there isn't data attached to it or metrics people agreed to prior to the season beginning, the phrase means "Nonsensical bullshit I'm making up as I go to support my baseless personal bias"

What data is there to back up the early season rankings? It's like BWillie said in his post, teams get credit for beating a team that was ranked early in the season that had no business being ranked. For example, OU getting credit for beating a TCU team that has no business being in the top 25. TCU had their ranking propped up by past success and an early season schedule that was laughable. Or an Alabama team getting credit for beating a #8 Georgia team and a #9 Texas A&M team that had no business being ranked that high. They had their ranking propped up because they are in the SEC. Don't get me wrong, Alabama is a great team. I was just using that as an example of how the early season rankings are really ridiculous and how teams get credit for beating other ranked teams that shouldn't be ranked as high as they are.

[Great Expectations]

TCU is a very good team with Boykin. Without him they are still a low end top 25 type team.

[Pablo]

Lol fuck off. I transposed the numbers.Just changes it from 2/4 to 3/4 shit teams is all.