Morse and Bailey expected to return to practice on Wed

[Mr. Laz]

Mitch Morse set to return to practice for Chiefs
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/red-zone/article48828565.html
Chiefs center was scheduled to practice Wednesday

Kansas City Chiefs center Mitch Morse was expected to be back at practice Wednesday after suffering a concussion Nov. 29. David Eulitt deulitt@kcstar.com
BY BLAIR KERKHOFF
bkerkhoff@kcstar.com

Center Mitch Morse and defensive end Allen Bailey were expected to return to the Chiefs’ practice field Wednesday.

Morse had taken every snap this season until suffering a concussion in the Chiefs’ victory over the Bills on Nov. 29 and hadn’t seen action in practice since then. Bailey had been a limited practice participant with a calf injury, but both players were inactive for last week’s game at Oakland.

CHIEFS’ JARROD PUGHSLEY EXPECTED TO PROVIDE DEPTH AT GUARD, TACKLE

Three players with concussions — safety Husain Abdullah, defensive end Mike DeVito and wide receiver De’Anthony Thomas — were expected to miss practice. Linebacker Justin Houston wasn’t set to practice while recovering from a hyperextended knee. Tamba Hali also will sit out.

The Chiefs signed offensive lineman Jarrod Pughsley from the practice squad and waived center Daniel Munyer. Pughsley can play guard and tackle as the Chiefs sort through injuries along the offensive line. Guard Jeff Allen played only seven snaps at Oakland.

Pughsley “plays guard and tackle and steadily improved throughout camp,” coach Andy Reid said. “He’ll come in and add to the depth.”

[ModSocks]

Woot.

[ptlyon]

It is Wednesday

[The Franchise]

What the fuck is up with Thomas? How does it take this long to get past a concussion?

[ModSocks]

What the **** is up with Thomas? How does it take this long to get past a concussion?

I didn't get to see the hit that laid him out. He musta got rocked pretty hard.

[Mr. Laz]

What the fuck is up with Thomas? How does it take this long to get past a concussion?

Severe concussions can take a long time.


shit ... sometimes you hear about people having to sit in rooms with no lights on all day long because of concussion. A bunch of light gives them serious headaches after a concussion.

DaT seems pretty fragile so far.


Those bastards in Buffalo were head hunting. :cuss:

[Sandy Vagina]

Disappointing season for DAT. After all the hype and positives in the offseason, I was hoping he would be making more of an impact, and not just on STs.

Still time.. rest up, lil dude! :thumb:

[ModSocks]

Disappointing season for DAT. After all the hype and positives in the offseason, I was hoping he would be making more of an impact, and not just on STs.

Still time.. rest up, lil dude! :thumb:

Thus far, McCluster was better.

[DaneMcCloud]

Thus far, McCluster was better.

Better is subjective.

McCluster was more productive because he was available. Hopefully, DAT can get healthy soon and for the remainder of the season.

[ModSocks]

Better is subjective.

McCluster was more productive because he was available. Hopefully, DAT can get healthy soon and for the remainder of the season.

Even when DaT was available he hasn't been as productive.

[TEX]

Thus far, McCluster was better.

No question. The ONLY problem with DMC was that he was taken in the 2nd round. Had he gone in the 4th - I think many here would feel differently about the dude.

[RunKC]

It looks like we could be a completely healthy team (minus JC/Gaines on IR) heading down the stretch.

I would expect there to be a strong possibility of DAT and Houston coming back next week.
I'd rest Allen for another week or 2.

[TEX]

Disappointing season for DAT. After all the hype and positives in the offseason, I was hoping he would be making more of an impact, and not just on STs.

Still time.. rest up, lil dude! :thumb:

Agreed - Very disappointing, after all the hype, to say the least. He's injury-prone. Not thinking he has an NFL body. He'll rest up, play and miss 4 games. Rinse-repeat. Thus far, that's his deal. :shake:

[staylor26]

It looks like we could be a completely healthy team (minus JC/Gaines on IR) heading down the stretch.

I would expect there to be a strong possibility of DAT and Houston coming back next week.
I'd rest Allen for another week or 2.

Fingers crossed. If this team gets healthy at the right time we could really be in for something special.

[ModSocks]

No question. The ONLY problem with DMC was that he was taken in the 2nd round. Had he gone in the 4th - I think many here would feel differently about the dude.

Yup.

It was never really about McCluster, but where he was drafted.

[DaneMcCloud]

Even when DaT was available he hasn't been as productive.

Their rookie seasons were similar. 289 yards from scrimmage for Dex, 269 YFS for DAT.

As for kick and punt returns, Dex averaged 20.1 while DAT averaged a whopping 30.6.

But year two is very different, mainly because DAT has been rarely available.

[DJ's left nut]

No question. The ONLY problem with DMC was that he was taken in the 2nd round. Had he gone in the 4th - I think many here would feel differently about the dude.

That's always been the case.

McCluster would've been a fine 4th round pick. He was NOT an acceptable 34th overall pick. It wasn't even how things worked out that made that so but rather the fact that there was never any upside built into his pick at all. At the very best, McCluster was going to be a gadget player and punt returner.

You don't take that kind of player that high. Even Tavon Austin had a chance to be truly dynamic in the passing game - McCluster did not.

Thomas was a fine 4th round pick and McCluster would've been as well.

[The Franchise]

McCluster was not worth the $22 million dollar deal that the Titans gave to him.

[BossChief]

McCluster was not worth the $22 million dollar deal that the Titans gave to him.

He only got a 3 year deal for a total of 9m

[The Franchise]

He only got a 3 year deal for a total of 9m

Holy shit. I had it in my head that it was way more than that.

[ModSocks]

Holy shit. I had it in my head that it was way more than that.

Maybe you're thinking of Jackson's contract? I thought he got something like that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Maybe you're thinking of Jackson's contract? I thought he got something like that.

Jackson got 5/25

[RINGLEADER]

Jackson got 5/25

Wow that dude and his mediocrity really made out.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Our return game has been disappoint.

But it's coming. Knile davis needs to return Kicks and DAT needs to return punts.

I don't want Maclin out there at ALL.

[Mr. Laz]

Thus far, McCluster was better.

DaT better returner
McCluster better receiver
McCluster way more durable

[Direckshun]

So who do we have left to get back from injury?

DAT, obviously.
Jeff Allen.
Justin Houston.

Anybody else I'm missing?

[RunKC]

So who do we have left to get back from injury?

DAT, obviously.
Jeff Allen.
Justin Houston.

Anybody else I'm missing?

Well DeVito got a concussion in the Raiders game.

[ThaVirus]

So who do we have left to get back from injury?

DAT, obviously.
Jeff Allen.
Justin Houston.

Anybody else I'm missing?


That's all I can think of as far as key contributors.

I wish we still had JC and Philip Gaines.

[Saccopoo]

Yup.

It was never really about McCluster, but where he was drafted.

Irrelevant.

Plenty of shit picks have been wasted at 1.1

Nobody knew about McCluster coming out of college and it was a "WTF?!" selection for the casual fan.

McCluster was DAT. However, DAT was on the cover of SI and people knew about him. Snoopdog, blah, blah, blah.

Same guy though. Same size, same measurables (for the most part), being used in the same manner at the same position, etc.

McCluster was and still is a pretty tough sob for his size. Strong as hell too. DAT might be a bit quicker. Sixes.

People here get bitchy about dudes. Can't let that go no matter what they do on the field. McCluster was one of those dudes for whatever reason.

[prhom]

You guys know that McCluster hasn't played for the last several weeks either, right?

[DaneMcCloud]

So who do we have left to get back from injury?

DAT, obviously.
Jeff Allen.
Justin Houston.

Anybody else I'm missing?

Abdullah

[milkman]

Irrelevant.

Plenty of shit picks have been wasted at 1.1

Nobody knew about McCluster coming out of college and it was a "WTF?!" selection for the casual fan.

McCluster was DAT. However, DAT was on the cover of SI and people knew about him. Snoopdog, blah, blah, blah.

Same guy though. Same size, same measurables (for the most part), being used in the same manner at the same position, etc.

McCluster was and still is a pretty tough sob for his size. Strong as hell too. DAT might be a bit quicker. Sixes.

People here get bitchy about dudes. Can't let that go no matter what they do on the field. McCluster was one of those dudes for whatever reason.

It was exactly about where he ws drafted.

McCluster that was/is never going to be a featured RB.
He was/is never going to be more than a situational/gadget receiver.

He's a part time specialist.

You don't fucking spend high second round picks on that kind of player.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

For being a gadget type of player, DAT is playing on a very team friendly contract

[Saccopoo]

It was exactly about where he ws drafted.

McCluster that was/is never going to be a featured RB.
He was/is never going to be more than a situational/gadget receiver.

He's a part time specialist.

You don't fucking spend high second round picks on that kind of player.

Damn near every team has done that at one time or another.

I know you "shouldn't" do it, but they do.

I wasn't overly thrilled with the pick, but he was productive, especially in the 2013 season.

And I'm glad that they didn't give him the contract and drafted the same guy. That's what you are supposed to do. Dorsey did.

Kudos to Dorsey.

[RealSNR]

Irrelevant.

Plenty of shit picks have been wasted at 1.1

Nobody knew about McCluster coming out of college and it was a "WTF?!" selection for the casual fan.

McCluster was DAT. However, DAT was on the cover of SI and people knew about him. Snoopdog, blah, blah, blah.

Same guy though. Same size, same measurables (for the most part), being used in the same manner at the same position, etc.

McCluster was and still is a pretty tough sob for his size. Strong as hell too. DAT might be a bit quicker. Sixes.

People here get bitchy about dudes. Can't let that go no matter what they do on the field. McCluster was one of those dudes for whatever reason.

McCluster sucks because Pioli drafted him EXACTFUCKINGLY to do the job that Jamaal Charles had already demonstrated that he can do.

In terms of position value weighted against team need, McCluster was THE most worthless pick of the Pioli era and it WASN'T EVEN FUCKING CLOSE.

And McCluster is NOT a tough son of a bitch. He's just a plain bitch, not a son of one. Fucking Vince fucking Agnew could tackle him just by masturbating violently next to him.

Jamaal Charles is the tough SOB speedster with otherwordly athletic skills. NOT Dexter McCluster.

Jesus fucking McChrist.

[Direckshun]

In terms of position value weighted against team need, McCluster was THE most worthless pick of the Pioli era and it WASN'T EVEN ****ING CLOSE.

Javier Arenas says hi.

[ThaVirus]

Vince fucking Agnew!!!

[TLO]

Javier Arenas says hi.

He also turned into Anthony Sherman - so I won't complain too much.

[Bob Dole]

I didn't get to see the hit that laid him out. He musta got rocked pretty hard.

It was a flagrant helmet-to-helmet hit that for some reason, wasn't flagged.

[RealSNR]

Javier Arenas says hi.

McCluster is far worse in the categories I mentioned.

[DJ's left nut]

McCluster is far worse in the categories I mentioned.

Nah, McCluster had a chance to be a useful returner and gadget player. Arenas, OTOH, simply didn't have any of the athletic skills needed to be a player in this league. McCluster would've been a fine 4th rounder and defensible 3rd rounder. I can't figure out why Arenas was drafted at all.

Then again, he reminds me a lot of Steve Nelson. For some reason people still think you can get away with putting undersized 'tough' DBs in the nickel and not have them get exposed.

[RealSNR]

Nah, McCluster had a chance to be a useful returner and gadget player. Arenas, OTOH, simply didn't have any of the athletic skills needed to be a player in this league. McCluster would've been a fine 4th rounder and defensible 3rd rounder. I can't figure out why Arenas was drafted at all.

Then again, he reminds me a lot of Steve Nelson. For some reason people still think you can get away with putting undersized 'tough' DBs in the nickel and not have them get exposed.
Tyrann Mathieu?

[RunKC]

Nah, McCluster had a chance to be a useful returner and gadget player. Arenas, OTOH, simply didn't have any of the athletic skills needed to be a player in this league. McCluster would've been a fine 4th rounder and defensible 3rd rounder. I can't figure out why Arenas was drafted at all.

Then again, he reminds me a lot of Steve Nelson. For some reason people still think you can get away with putting undersized 'tough' DBs in the nickel and not have them get exposed.

I'm curious what you think about Steven Nelson. He has some similarities to Brandon Flowers, but I'm not sure short CB's have as high of a % of success rate in today's NFL.

[Frosty]

I'm curious what you think about Steven Nelson. He has some similarities to Brandon Flowers, but I'm not sure short CB's have as high of a % of success rate in today's NFL.

The average NFL corner is 5'11" and 190 lb. Nelson is 5'10" and 197 lb. We aren't talking Mighty Mouse here.

[O.city]

I think cb size is a factor, but I'd be looking more for ball skills and athletic ability. The rest is technique, which is something that can be learned.

The others can't really

[DJ's left nut]

I'm curious what you think about Steven Nelson. He has some similarities to Brandon Flowers, but I'm not sure short CB's have as high of a % of success rate in today's NFL.

Hated the pick from the moment it was made.

It's not just the height, he's simply not a premier athlete (for an NFL DB).

I didn't really know much about him until I was looking into Jaelen Strong and saw a game he played against Oregon State. Nelson pretty much shut him down. Now obviously on its face this is a good thing. Then I looked into Strong more and realized I friggen hated that guy as a prospect. So I decided to look into Nelson to see if I was being fair to Strong and maybe Nelson was just better than I realized.

Nope - dude's upside is NCB and frankly, I just don't think dedicated 'conventional' NCBs work in Sutton's scheme. We keep trying them with guys like Robinson and Owens - they failed. The Chiefs need a guy with better size and athleticism there because of how often they end up with the NCB in man coverage. Parker is better at that job than Nelson will be because he's simply a substantially better athlete.

Nelson was a wasted pick. He'll be out of football in 3 years, IMO.

[Frosty]

Nice ninja edit there, DJLN. I was about to give you shit for it.

[O.city]

Ncb has to meet a certain athletic baseline. He doesn't have the sideline like an outside corner does, change of direction is huge therr.

I'm wondering if they don't think Gaines is the guy at ncb

[The Franchise]

Nice ninja edit there, DJLN. I was about to give you shit for it.

The Oregon thing?

[Frosty]

The Oregon thing?

Yeah.

I don't agree with DJLN about some of his observations, but I can't argue with him about Nelson until Nelson can get his ass on the field. Until then, he's right and I'm wrong.

[DJ's left nut]

Nice ninja edit there, DJLN. I was about to give you shit for it.

I always screw that up. I had a new tab opened and double checked as soon as I hit submit.

In my mind, Oregon is the Beavers and Oregon State is the ducks. It's pretty much institutional misinformation at this point. I don't screw up AZ and ASU but for some reason OU and OSU I just cannot get right.

[Frosty]

I always screw that up. I had a new tab opened and double checked as soon as I hit submit.

In my mind, Oregon is the Beavers and Oregon State is the ducks. It's pretty much institutional misinformation at this point. I don't screw up AZ and ASU but for some reason OU and OSU I just cannot get right.

It's easy. Just remember that it's the Oregon dirty, stinkin', cheating Ducks and the awesome Oregon State Beavers. Plus, the beaver is the official Oregon state animal while the ducks are a cartoon character.

[royr17]

The average NFL corner is 5'11" and 190 lb. Nelson is 5'10" and 197 lb. We aren't talking Mighty Mouse here.

Accordign to KCChiefs he is listed at 5'11".

[Frosty]

Accordign to KCChiefs he is listed at 5'11".

Pretty sure he was 5' 10 + change" at the Combine. I think kcchiefs.com just rounded up.

[Halfcan]

It will be good to have these guys back- Chargers are in trouble.

[DaneMcCloud]

Hated the pick from the moment it was made.



I would have "hated it" had the Chiefs not moved up to chose Conley but I can honestly say that I wasn't a big fan.

Not only does he not fit the "mold" of cornerbacks that Dorsey has acquired since arriving, he's not athletic and doesn't seem to have much awareness.

I guess there was something that he saw in him, otherwise, he wouldn't have made the pick but he's a very different player than Gaines, Smith, Parker, Peters and even Branch.

[RunKC]

Hated the pick from the moment it was made.

It's not just the height, he's simply not a premier athlete (for an NFL DB).

I didn't really know much about him until I was looking into Jaelen Strong and saw a game he played against Oregon State. Nelson pretty much shut him down. Now obviously on its face this is a good thing. Then I looked into Strong more and realized I friggen hated that guy as a prospect. So I decided to look into Nelson to see if I was being fair to Strong and maybe Nelson was just better than I realized.

Nope - dude's upside is NCB and frankly, I just don't think dedicated 'conventional' NCBs work in Sutton's scheme. We keep trying them with guys like Robinson and Owens - they failed. The Chiefs need a guy with better size and athleticism there because of how often they end up with the NCB in man coverage. Parker is better at that job than Nelson will be because he's simply a substantially better athlete.

Nelson was a wasted pick. He'll be out of football in 3 years, IMO.

I wanted Justin Hardy with that pick, and admittedly didn't know much about Nelson.

It seems like Dorsey's mission was to get attitude and confidence in the secondary. The Broncos exposed our Secondary in 2014. Couldn't tackle in the open field very well, couldn't stand up to their WR's as a group and didn't put fear in the minds of many WR's in general (aside from Sean Smith).

Nelson didn't miss a single tackle (per PFF) in his last year at OSU and he was said to be highly competetive and a guy who will "fight you every snap".

All good on paper, but not much action thus far. He played 10 snaps Sunday and appears to be getting more as the season goes on.

If he's even half of what Flowers was as a #4 slot CB, it would be a good pick. But yeah so far he's not done anything.

[RunKC]

I would have "hated it" had the Chiefs not moved up to chose Conley but I can honestly say that I wasn't a big fan.

Not only does he not fit the "mold" of cornerbacks that Dorsey has acquired since arriving, he's not athletic and doesn't seem to have much awareness.

I guess there was something that he saw in him, otherwise, he wouldn't have made the pick but he's a very different player than Gaines, Smith, Parker, Peters and even Branch.

Remember NFLN saying Nelson was the most impressive DB at the Senior Bowl, so there's yor answer.

Eric Fisher, Dee Ford, now Steven Nelson.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Forget the Steven Nelson debate for now.

We'll know what they think about him based on the choice to resign Smith or not, and if not the choice of whether to address the position through FA or the draft.

Personally, I've really liked Ron Parker at slot CB allowing Berry to play high. Not sure Parker will be a true safety going forward, seeing how this thing is working.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

If not already mentioned:

Houston, DeVito, DAT and Abdullah did not practice today.

[BossChief]

Remember NFLN saying Nelson was the most impressive DB at the Senior Bowl, so there's yor answer.

Eric Fisher, Dee Ford, now Steven Nelson.

Nice observation! That's 3, a pattern/trend.

We should pay more attention to the senior bowl next year.

[BossChief]

If not already mentioned:

Houston, DeVito, DAT and Abdullah did not practice today.

Rest up and be 100% for the playoffs.

Each one of those guys is going to play a big role in the playoffs.

[TEX]

Rest up and be 100% for the playoffs.

Each one of those guys is going to play a big role in the playoffs.

I hear ya, but I'm starting not to give a shit about DAT. Dude is far to injury prone to be counted on.

[BossChief]

I hear ya, but I'm starting not to give a shit about DAT. Dude is far to injury prone to be counted on.

We need him to make 2-3 electric plays in each playoff game. I don't think we need him to beat any of the teams left on our schedule.

[Hydrae]

If not already mentioned:

Houston, DeVito, DAT and Abdullah did not practice today.

So you are saying that Morse and Bailey (you know, from the thread title) did practice? :thumb:

[ILChief]

Is DAT brain dead?

[Frosty]

Is DAT brain dead?

He's a Duck, so - yes.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

So you are saying that Morse and Bailey (you know, from the thread title) did practice? :thumb:

This thread was for Wednesday, as it says in the thread title.

Not today. :thumb:

[Hydrae]

This thread was for Wednesday, as it says in the thread title.

Not today. :thumb:

Yep and them practicing today is at least as good as if they had actually practiced yesterday (was that ever confirmed?).