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Deberg_1990
12-16-2015, 10:42 PM
Dane, i thought you said it would never happen??


http://www.franchiseherald.com/articles/47097/20151216/guns-n-roses-reunion-tour.htm




According to Blabbermouth, promoters and organizers are now cooking a possible reunion tour for the American rock band.

"Slash and Axl have verbally agreed to get things together again and reform the original band," the insider reportedly said. "The live shows are where they can show the world what they had and also make the greatest earnings."

"Promoters are quietly working away to land opportunities. Details of the reunion are expected to leak out in the next few days. Everyone is expecting huge demand for tickets, but the boys are very humble and are not sure what to expect."

And while no official announcement has been made yet, Alternative Nation, claimed that Slash may have been reserving a short summer time for a Guns N' Roses reunion tour, while his other band Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators is scheduled to perform shows 2016 and 2017.

According to a report from Jose Norberto Flesch of GNR Truth, the band has now ironed out any legal issues constraining the possibility of an original line up tour for Guns N' Roses.

"Heads up!" the report said. "The 'possible return of Guns' story is stronger now. I've heard that the legal issues have been solved. Now it's up to the band."

And to further strengthen the claims, reports suggested that Guns N' Roses has been offered to play at Coachella for quite some time already.

"Guns already has an offer from Coachella for a long time," the report said. "It was only a matter of solving their issues."

"European festivals are also anxiously awaiting for a resolution for all Guns related problems."

stevieray
12-16-2015, 10:45 PM
All Rose is still with millions.

alpha_omega
12-16-2015, 10:47 PM
Is Duff in?

GloucesterChief
12-16-2015, 10:47 PM
They could barely put up with Axl while they were strung out all the time. How are they going to put up with him while they are sober?

Jerm
12-16-2015, 10:49 PM
I will go anywhere in the lower 48 to see them if they reunite....always wanted to and it'd be a bucket list item for me.

stevieray
12-16-2015, 10:55 PM
I will go anywhere in the lower 48 to see them if they reunite....always wanted to and it'd be a bucket list item for me.

I saw them right after Appetite. Axl sucked.

TribalElder
12-16-2015, 11:08 PM
Axl sounds fucking awful now

Guns and roses should remain a high school memory for most

salame
12-16-2015, 11:09 PM
I'm in

LiveSteam
12-16-2015, 11:10 PM
COOL RANCH DRESSING

SAUTO
12-16-2015, 11:13 PM
They could barely put up with Axl while they were strung out all the time. How are they going to put up with him while they are sober?

He was the guy who couldn't take the dopers.


Read slash's biography

SAUTO
12-16-2015, 11:15 PM
I will go anywhere in the lower 48 to see them if they reunite....always wanted to and it'd be a bucket list item for me.

Me too. Saw them at arrowhead with metallica back in the day.





I would also pay whatever it took to see audioslave if they went on tour again

SAUTO
12-16-2015, 11:16 PM
Funny I just sang patience karaoke lol

SAUTO
12-16-2015, 11:16 PM
And I am the highway lol.

cosmo20002
12-16-2015, 11:34 PM
They could barely put up with Axl while they were strung out all the time. How are they going to put up with him while they are sober?

$$$$

rabblerouser
12-16-2015, 11:44 PM
Is Duff in?

Word is its Duff, Slash and Axl with Dizzy & Chris Pittman on keys, Frank Ferrer on drums and Richard Fortus on rhythm guitar.

rabblerouser
12-16-2015, 11:45 PM
COOL RANCH DRESSING

I'm serious...she's pretty tied up, hangin' upside down.

Psyko Tek
12-16-2015, 11:47 PM
Axl sounds fucking awful now

Guns and roses should remain a high school memory for most

I am with that
slash can still play,
but axl can fuck the hell off

ClevelandBronco
12-16-2015, 11:47 PM
That's great news because most bands are so much better after they reunite.

TLO
12-16-2015, 11:50 PM
Ultimate Deberg thread. :clap:

LiveSteam
12-17-2015, 12:17 AM
Michelle

SPchief
12-17-2015, 12:21 AM
That's great news because most bands are so much better after they reunite.

LMAO

Brock
12-17-2015, 12:24 AM
No izzy? Not a reunion.

LiveSteam
12-17-2015, 12:34 AM
Immigrants & Cosmo,they make no sense to me.
They come to our country and think they'll do as they please.
Like start some mini Irian or spread some fucking disease.
They speak so many God dam ways.....Its all Greek to me.




I'm Donald Trump & I approve of this message.

Toby Waller
12-17-2015, 02:24 AM
A friend of mine is the brother in law of one of the top 3 guys who ran triple X records.
They had Janes Addiction but botched getting Guns n Roses because of one stupid mistake

Coochie liquor
12-17-2015, 04:27 AM
Axl's voice is garbage, time to steal more money from the public.

Mile High Mania
12-17-2015, 06:20 AM
The band that had one of the greatest 5 year runs in rock history and then blew it all up. I'd like to get excited about this one, but as someone said previously ... this should stay a high school memory for most, don't ruin it.

BigMeatballDave
12-17-2015, 06:29 AM
The band that had one of the greatest 5 year runs in rock history and then blew it all up. I'd like to get excited about this one, but as someone said previously ... this should stay a high school memory for most, don't ruin it.

Yep. Appitite for Destruction came out during my senior year.

Saul Good
12-17-2015, 07:23 AM
What happened to Axl? He was in Kansas City a couple years ago, and I heard he was fat but sounded great.

BlackHelicopters
12-17-2015, 07:53 AM
No1curr

beach tribe
12-17-2015, 08:00 AM
Axl will fuck them over and not show up.

Who wants to bet right now.

beach tribe
12-17-2015, 08:01 AM
Axl don't give a fuck.

And this is probably his chance to fuck Slash over.

beach tribe
12-17-2015, 08:02 AM
Axl's voice is garbage, time to steal more money from the public.

Axl doesn't need a dime.

Buy yes, his voice sounds horrible. Kind of hard to fry your esophagus like a strip of bacon for 15 years and ever sound the same again.

dirk digler
12-17-2015, 08:12 AM
Me too. Saw them at arrowhead with metallica back in the day.



I was there as well! Pretty good show. I also saw Guns open up for Aerosmith at Sandstone (or whatever they call it now).

Not interested in seeing a live reunion but I would be open to a new album.

Lzen
12-17-2015, 08:37 AM
The question is how long will this last. Axl is such an ass that I can't see the other members putting up with his crap for long. Plus Adler doesn't look so good these days. Years of drugs and alcohol have made him a mess.

rabblerouser
12-17-2015, 09:16 AM
Immigrants & Cosmo,they make no sense to me.
They come to our country and think they'll do as they please.
Like start some mini Irian or spread some ****ing disease.
They speak so many God dam ways.....Its all Greek to me.




I'm Donald Trump & I approve of this message.

ROFL ol cocksmoke is one in a million, for sure

rabblerouser
12-17-2015, 09:18 AM
The question is how long will this last. Axl is such an ass that I can't see the other members putting up with his crap for long. Plus Adler doesn't look so good these days. Years of drugs and alcohol have made him a mess.

No Adler.

Word is its Duff, Slash and Axl with Dizzy & Chris Pittman on keys, Frank Ferrer on drums and Richard Fortus on rhythm guitar.

Halfcan
12-17-2015, 09:27 AM
Word is its Duff, Slash and Axl with Dizzy & Chris Pittman on keys, Frank Ferrer on drums and Richard Fortus on rhythm guitar.

That is not Guns and Fucking Roses! :cuss:

rabblerouser
12-17-2015, 09:29 AM
That is not Guns and ****ing Roses! :cuss:

Agree - no Izzy = no Guns.

But apparently as long as it's got Duff, Slash, and Axl, promoters don't care who the rest of the band is.

Halfcan
12-17-2015, 09:59 AM
Agree - no Izzy = no Guns.

But apparently as long as it's got Duff, Slash, and Axl, promoters don't care who the rest of the band is.

Back in the day I bought 8 tickets to Arrowhead for GnR. Axle started a riot in St. Louis and they canceled our show here. I got a refund for the tickets but Not the service charge of $12.00 per ticket from ticketmaster.

So $96.00 gone for nothing. 3 days later they announced a "new" show and of course you would have to pay yet another service charge. Fuck GnR-touring without the original band. It is like Kiss dressing up guys and calling it Kiss.

I will wait and see Slash solo at some point- I am sure it will be a much better show. Better singing for sure.

Halfcan
12-17-2015, 10:01 AM
I was there as well! Pretty good show. I also saw Guns open up for Aerosmith at Sandstone (or whatever they call it now).

Not interested in seeing a live reunion but I would be open to a new album.

Axel is working on Chinese Democracy 2 - should hit in 2054. Just have a little patience.

KC Dan
12-17-2015, 10:05 AM
Not interested. Saw them in the past and have seen Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators with Slash in the more recent past. Much better now with Myles and not Axl...

Lzen
12-17-2015, 10:09 AM
Axel is working on Chinese Democracy 2 - should hit in 2054. Just have a little patience.

Ha ha!


:clap:

teedubya
12-17-2015, 10:14 AM
Axl sounds fucking awful now

Guns and roses should remain a high school memory for most

This.

Gonzo
12-17-2015, 10:26 AM
I used to do a spot on imitation of Axl when I was younger but a pack a day habit and too much Makers Mark has ruined that.
Wait a minute.

I do a spot on imitation of Axl.

Coochie liquor
12-17-2015, 10:36 AM
I used to do a spot on imitation of Axl when I was younger but a pack a day habit and too much Makers Mark has ruined that.
Wait a minute.

I do a spot on imitation of Axl.

ROFL

DaneMcCloud
12-17-2015, 10:41 AM
Dane, i thought you said it would never happen??

The reason why Slash is suddenly open to the idea is simple: Money.

Since his divorce, he's had to sell his home and is currently renting. He lost half his net worth and is still required to pay alimony and child support.

While his passion is working with Myles and the guys, it doesn't generate much revenue for him, certainly nothing along the lines of even a few festival shows would generate with GnR.

Personally, I think the fans will be disappointed. Axl can't sing and everything I've heard the past few months only involves Duff (who's shown up at several concerts to jam with Axl over the past several years) and Slash. No Matty, Steven (who's been pushing it for years and years), Izzy or even Gilby.

Blech. Who cares?

eDave
12-17-2015, 10:44 AM
Please don't do Coachella. Please don't do Coachella. PLEASE DON'T DO COACHELLA!

ExtremeChief
12-17-2015, 10:45 AM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/55/55866ffe3776926177fdeed08ebac986507a2a448d11fb7b88f7e33056ee1c4d.jpg

threebag
12-17-2015, 10:53 AM
The fucking stars are aligning. To the fucking ship. GO CHIEFS.

LiveSteam
12-17-2015, 11:03 AM
ROFL ol cocksmoke is one in a million, for sure
Thank God someone got it. I thought I was being pretty clever..
I'm Donald Trump & I approve of this message

Guess not.

el borracho
12-17-2015, 11:24 AM
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TLO
12-17-2015, 11:43 AM
No1curr
<marquee> http://i.imgur.com/uUbkpyy.gif </marquee>

Deberg_1990
01-04-2016, 10:28 PM
Uh oh......Reunion over before it began? Axl cancels his Kimmel show appearance for tomorrow night.....


According to a post on the popular GUNS N' ROSES fan forum MyGNRForum.com, Axl Rose's previously announced appearance on ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" program will no longer take place on Tuesday, January 5.

Early Monday, Rose was listed as the show's first guest for the Tuesday broadcast and, for some reason, the GUNS N' ROSES singer's name was removed from the site by mid-afternoon.

A moderator for MyGNRForum.com wrote: "[There was] no reason given [for the change of plans]. I sent out an email to someone connected with the band the answer I got back is that Axl will not be appearing in tomorrow night's show. Hopefully we'll hear more in the coming days, so I wouldn't get too discouraged. It's just not going to be on 'Kimmel' tomorrow night. That's all I know."

Rose was expected to reveal details of a reunion of GUNS N' ROSES' classic lineup, including plans for a headlining appearance at this year's Coachella Music And Arts Festival and a 25-date stadium tour of North America this summer.

Axl Rose, guitarist Slash and bassist Duff McKagan are all said to be involved, although it's not clear who else will be part of the band's lineup.

Slash last performed with GUNS N' ROSES at River Plate Stadium in Buenos Aires, Argentina on July 17, 1993.

A since-deleted Facebook post from Axl's half-sister, Amy Bailey, urged fans to watch "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" on Tuesday.


Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/report-axl-rose-will-not-appear-on-jimmy-kimmel-live-tuesday-night/#VGFillC7lW4YgqvI.99

Shekelsteinberg
01-04-2016, 10:42 PM
I hope not, nothing good can come from it and they are one of the few bands from that era that I still enjoy.

DaNewGuy
01-04-2016, 10:45 PM
When is Nirvana gonna reunite ?

eDave
01-04-2016, 10:49 PM
Please don't do Coachella. Please don't do Coachella. PLEASE DON'T DO COACHELLA!

Fuck!

https://coachella2016-poster.s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/coa16_full.jpg

DaNewGuy
01-04-2016, 10:51 PM
Guns N' Roses - Ice Cube collaboration in the works

Shekelsteinberg
01-04-2016, 10:52 PM
When is Nirvana gonna reunite ?

Did you see that fuckin' head come apart man?

Chiefaholic
01-04-2016, 10:56 PM
A good friend of mine was at Rocklahoma a couple years back and said Axl was absolutely terrible. Slash doesn't need Axl to have a very productive career.

Brock
01-04-2016, 10:59 PM
A good friend of mine was at Rocklahoma a couple years back and said Axl was absolutely terrible. Slash doesn't need Axl to have a very productive career.

As long as he doesn't mind leaving 50 million dollars on the table.

eDave
01-04-2016, 11:00 PM
As long as he doesn't mind leaving 50 million dollars on the table.

He's gotta do 2 shows for Coachella. If they make it that far.

okcchief
01-04-2016, 11:17 PM
I can't believe it's been that long since Slash played with GNR. God damn I'm old!

mr. tegu
01-04-2016, 11:42 PM
I can't believe it's been that long since Slash played with GNR. God damn I'm old!
I can't believe they only played together for about 8 years. I did not realize they had such a short run together.

Demonpenz
01-04-2016, 11:47 PM
Whistles patience

eDave
01-04-2016, 11:53 PM
If anyone is considering Coachella, passes go on sale Jan. 6.

$375 and both weekends will sell out on day one.

scho63
01-05-2016, 12:33 AM
They are going to have to tell Axl he is performing at 6pm on Thursday so he will show up by 11 pm on Saturday night

Strongside
01-05-2016, 12:40 AM
They will blow dick but I have a suite at Sprint Center, so I suppose I'll go if they make it here. Can't wait for Tool in a couple weeks!

stevieray
01-05-2016, 02:32 AM
Rose is already worth an obscene amount of money.

Dayze
01-05-2016, 07:02 AM
I know it's the full reunion supposedly,but no way I'm shelling out money. I spent $275 on tickets a few years ago when Axl came to the Midland, and it sucked so hard. My wife and I just waited in the lobby area drinking beer waiting for the concert to end for the rest of the party we came with.


Rivaled only by Mötley Crüe at cruefest . Only saving grace there was Godsmack killed it.

Never again am I shelling out money for old ass bands that I love listening to.

Mile High Mania
01-05-2016, 07:04 AM
Rose is already worth an obscene amount of money.

Gotta figure they've made a killing on the royalties from 'Welcome to the Jungle'...

Marcellus
01-05-2016, 07:16 AM
Rose is already worth an obscene amount of money.

I doubt it. The GNR greatest hits CD was released against Axl's wishes to help the record company recoup the recording $ Axl had spent on Chinese Democracy.

I am sure he has $ and gets plenty of royalties but nothing like he could make off this tour.

Dinny Bossa Nova
01-05-2016, 07:33 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NHyl04-ytH8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That is funnier than Iowanian cussing out skinbra.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

What the...

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Are there even....

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

I can't fuckin' breathe

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Dinny Bossa Nova
01-05-2016, 07:35 AM
:drool::drool::drool:

Dammit, el bo.....

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Dinny Bossa Nova
01-05-2016, 09:16 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NHyl04-ytH8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

How can someone do that on film, watch the film and still..... I don't even know how to ask the question.

Were there tickets sold for that event? It sounds like there were a lot of people there and they were all embarrassed for him. You could hear the energy being sucked out of the room.

My senile old brain is now smithereens. I'm gonna go practice.

(let it go, Dinny, The Girl From Ipanema needs polishing up)

Fuck it.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

My sides are killin' me.

Dinny

stevieray
01-05-2016, 10:13 AM
I doubt it. The GNR greatest hits CD was released against Axl's wishes to help the record company recoup the recording $ Axl had spent on Chinese Democracy.

I am sure he has $ and gets plenty of royalties but nothing like he could make off this tour.
IIRC, 150 million.

Hell, Vince Neil is worth 50 million.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2016, 10:21 AM
I'm not sure why anyone would want to see this "band", especially since Axl Rose is a shell of his former self.

I suppose that some people may feel like nothing in Slash's career could ever match Appetite but his latest band with Myles Kennedy has released two records that IMO, are every bit as good, if not better, than what he did with GNR and certainly better (again, IMO) than Velvet Revolver.

cosmo20002
01-05-2016, 12:43 PM
I'm not sure why anyone would want to see this "band", especially since Axl Rose is a shell of his former self.

I suppose that some people may feel like nothing in Slash's career could ever match Appetite but his latest band with Myles Kennedy has released two records that IMO, are every bit as good, if not better, than what he did with GNR and certainly better (again, IMO) than Velvet Revolver.

Your opinion is bad.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2016, 12:44 PM
Your opinion is bad.

:rolleyes:

cosmo20002
01-05-2016, 12:52 PM
Thank God someone got it. I thought I was being pretty clever.. I'm Donald Trump & I approve of this message

Guess not.

Oh, yes. So clever.
You're fucking crazy.

stevieray
01-05-2016, 12:57 PM
Cosmo being completely worthless again.

alpha_omega
01-05-2016, 12:58 PM
I wish I did, but....I really have no interest in this. Axl sucks.

If it was 1992, 3, or 4...sure, but not now.

cosmo20002
01-05-2016, 12:58 PM
Back in the day I bought 8 tickets to Arrowhead for GnR. Axle started a riot in St. Louis and they canceled our show here. I got a refund for the tickets but Not the service charge of $12.00 per ticket from ticketmaster.

So $96.00 gone for nothing. 3 days later they announced a "new" show and of course you would have to pay yet another service charge. **** GnR-touring without the original band. It is like Kiss dressing up guys and calling it Kiss.

I had tickets to that Arrowhead concert. It never made any sense that they had to cancel because of the "riot" in StL. I also remember being pissed about the service charge...that was probably my first experience with a cancelled concert. That is some BS...bands/their insurance should be on the hook for that shit. Not my fault the show didn't take place.

I don't remember a new date though.

eDave
01-05-2016, 01:01 PM
I wish I did, but....I really have no interest in this. Axl sucks.

If it was 1992, 3, or 4...sure, but not now.


Coachella will stream it. They stream most of Weekend One.

cosmo20002
01-05-2016, 01:01 PM
Cosmo being completely worthless again.

What I do? Disagreed with Dane that Slash featuring Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators are as good as GNR was? Or something else?

cosmo20002
01-05-2016, 01:03 PM
:rolleyes:

We know you have a massive crush on Slash. If you think Slash & Myles Kennedy > GNR, then your opinion is bad.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2016, 01:13 PM
We know you have a massive crush on Slash. If you think Slash & Myles Kennedy > GNR, then your opinion is bad.

Massive crush? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Also, anyone who criticizes another person's opinion of art is a moron. What connects with me may or may not connect with you.

That's the way it works, dummy.

stevieray
01-05-2016, 01:15 PM
We know you have a massive crush on Slash. .
Cosmo being worthless again.

LiveSteam
01-05-2016, 01:45 PM
We know you have a massive crush on Slash. If you think Slash & Myles Kennedy > GNR, then your opinion is bad.

Kinda like your crush on Obama.

cosmo20002
01-05-2016, 02:16 PM
Massive crush? Seriously, what the **** is wrong with you?

Also, anyone who criticizes another person's opinion of art is a moron. What connects with me may or may not connect with you.

That's the way it works, dummy.

So criticizing art is acceptable, but criticizing someone's opinion of art is not. ok

Dayze
01-05-2016, 05:46 PM
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now THAT is actually the kind of shit you hear at a Guitar Center on a Saturday.

okcchief
01-05-2016, 08:05 PM
I'm not sure why anyone would want to see this "band", especially since Axl Rose is a shell of his former self.

I suppose that some people may feel like nothing in Slash's career could ever match Appetite but his latest band with Myles Kennedy has released two records that IMO, are every bit as good, if not better, than what he did with GNR and certainly better (again, IMO) than Velvet Revolver.

He also does the Guns covers better than Axl. He probably starts his shows before midnight too.

Guns was incredible in the day so I won't go that far, but I'm sure Kennedy can put on a better show today than Axl.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2016, 08:10 PM
He also does the Guns covers better than Axl. He probably starts his shows before midnight too.

Guns was incredible in the day so I won't go that far, but I'm sure Kennedy can put on a better show today than Axl.

Myles is a consumate professional in both Slash's band and Alterbridge.

In a fan of both bands and Myles.

okcchief
01-05-2016, 08:13 PM
I don't blame Duff and Slash for cashing in for a bit. It won't last though because Axl is a huge asshole.

stevieray
01-05-2016, 08:16 PM
Queensryche (sans Geoff Tate) plays Knuckleheads in a month. Interesting, because IIRC, he wrote the majority of their songs.

ChiefsCountry
01-05-2016, 08:22 PM
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DaneMcCloud
01-05-2016, 08:23 PM
I don't blame Duff and Slash for cashing in for a bit. It won't last though because Axl is a huge asshole.

It's driven by Slash. He lost half his dough in a divorce, had to sell his house and split the profit and is living in a rental. He's not "broke" but losing half your wealth at age 50 with two sons to raise and send to college sucks.

And with Axl's voice and current health, it's now or never.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2016, 08:27 PM
Queensryche (sans Geoff Tate) plays Knuckleheads in a month. Interesting, because IIRC, he wrote the majority of their songs.

Michael Wilton and Chris DeGarmo wrote most of the music, either together or separately, with a few written by Scott Rockenfeld.

Tate wrote the majority of the lyrics during their original run but some of the songs were solely written by other members.

Supposedly, this iteration is the best since the early 90's.

Halfcan
01-05-2016, 08:33 PM
now THAT is actually the kind of shit you hear at a Guitar Center on a Saturday.

:deevee: WTF is that? Shittiest solo ever.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2016, 08:36 PM
:deevee: WTF is that? Shittiest solo ever.
It's a joke.

The guy does that for Vai, EVH and others and they've been on the Internet for at least five years, if not ten.

Personally, I think it's brilliant and hysterical. I literally cried because I was laughing so hard the first time I saw the EVH video.

Halfcan
01-05-2016, 08:46 PM
It's a joke.

The guy does that for Vai, EVH and others and they've been on the Internet for at least five years, if not ten.

Personally, I think it's brilliant and hysterical. I literally cried because I was laughing so hard the first time I saw the EVH video.

:D I just saw the video.

stevieray
01-05-2016, 08:46 PM
Michael Wilton and Chris DeGarmo wrote most of the music, either together or separately, with a few written by Scott Rockenfeld.

Tate wrote the majority of the lyrics during their original run but some of the songs were solely written by other members.

Supposedly, this iteration is the best since the early 90's.

oooooh. Saw them on Empire tour with Ozzy in Denver. Excellent show!

Might have to go check this out.

quirk! did their logo on a jean jacket for a friend.

Rasputin
01-05-2016, 08:48 PM
Meh I'd just assume to see DJ Ashba and Bumblefoot. They kick ass. I know DJ Ashba left so he could record with his band SIXX A.M. but Bumblefoot Ron Thal is ever bit if not better than Slash.

They've played longer with Axl than Slash but needed more than one album to show for it. Supposedly they have enough to put out 4 albums but Axl doesn't want to put them out because of internet downloads make them worthless.

alpha_omega
01-05-2016, 09:24 PM
oooooh. Saw them on Empire tour.....

They were the headliner here on that tour. Honestly, one of the best live shows I have ever seen.

eDave
01-05-2016, 09:26 PM
They were the headliner here on that tour. Honestly, one of the best live shows I have ever seen.

Never a fan but there is NOTHING like a great live show.

cosmo20002
01-05-2016, 09:46 PM
It's driven by Slash. He lost half his dough in a divorce, had to sell his house and split the profit and is living in a rental. He's not "broke" but losing half your wealth at age 50 with two sons to raise and send to college sucks.

I've never heard anything so tragic.

Psyko Tek
01-05-2016, 10:26 PM
Axl sounds fucking awful now

Guns and roses should remain a high school memory for most

YUP, THEY HAD ONE GREAT ALBUM,
and just let it go

Dinny Bossa Nova
01-09-2016, 09:26 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NHyl04-ytH8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Dinny

ILChief
01-09-2016, 09:31 AM
YUP, THEY HAD ONE GREAT ALBUM,
and just let it go

If you took the best 12-15 songs from use your illusions 1 and 2 and had one album, it would be great album. With the two albums, they were both half great half filler

Halfcan
01-09-2016, 11:16 AM
I've never heard anything so tragic.

It is basic- Rock Star 101

Practice hard-start a band
Play shitty gigs and starve
Get a lucky break and get signed to a record deal.
Don't read the contract, take huge up front money.
Play better gigs-make more money.
Spend like their is no tomorrow.
Acquire a drug habit, mooching friends and girls that love to spend money.
Put out second (Sophomore slump) record.
Play worse gigs-keep spending money.
Record company calls in loan-in which band thought was free money.
Hurry up and put out a third filler album that fans hate.
Get married to a groupie.
Break up band and get divorced.
Get sued by record company and then sue each other in band.
Put out a greatest hits record / or live recording nobody wants.
Die of drug overdose or spiral to obscurity.
Repeat process with surviving members.

SAUTO
01-09-2016, 11:41 AM
Meh I'd just assume to see DJ Ashba and Bumblefoot. They kick ass. I know DJ Ashba left so he could record with his band SIXX A.M. but Bumblefoot Ron Thal is ever bit if not better than Slash.

They've played longer with Axl than Slash but needed more than one album to show for it. Supposedly they have enough to put out 4 albums but Axl doesn't want to put them out because of internet downloads make them worthless.AS SOON is what you were looking for here, instead of assume.

Dayze
01-09-2016, 12:08 PM
It's a joke.

The guy does that for Vai, EVH and others and they've been on the Internet for at least five years, if not ten.

Personally, I think it's brilliant and hysterical. I literally cried because I was laughing so hard the first time I saw the EVH video.

Yep. The Creed shreds is probably my favorite.

Rasputin
01-09-2016, 12:21 PM
AS SOON is what you were looking for here, instead of assume.

:rolleyes:

rabblerouser
01-28-2016, 06:59 PM
For all my fellow GNR fans to get ready with : https://m.facebook.com/gnrsudamerica/posts/368553893341484

Easy 6
01-30-2016, 01:54 PM
If they are actually going to do this, I'd like to see them do a few things...

Bring back Izzy

Bring back Adler

Axl gets vocal chord surgery

I don't want Matt Sorum and Gilby ****ing Clark, I want the ORIGINAL BAND... and Axl needs to get his voice right again.

beach tribe
01-30-2016, 02:03 PM
If they are actually going to do this, I'd like to see them do a few things...

Bring back Izzy

Bring back Adler

Axl gets vocal chord surgery

I don't want Matt Sorum and Gilby ****ing Clark, I want the ORIGINAL BAND... and Axl needs to get his voice right again.

Adler is too fucked up. No way he could play a show.

Easy 6
01-30-2016, 02:09 PM
Adler is too fucked up. No way he could play a show.

Yeah I doubt he is part of this, but he could be if they'd insist on rehab beforehand.

Axl, Duff and Slash is better than nothing I suppose, but nothing is ever as good as the original lineup in any band... the magic was created by a certain group of guys, and without those same players it never equals the original band, IMO.

I've always equated it to chemistry, without the same chemicals you wont have the same formula.

Baby Lee
01-30-2016, 02:16 PM
Guns N' Roses - Ice Cube collaboration in the works

Long [and Q], but the best 45 min you can spend.

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Marcellus
01-30-2016, 03:58 PM
Adler is too ****ed up. No way he could play a show.

I was about to say this.

ILChief
01-30-2016, 05:22 PM
If they are actually going to do this, I'd like to see them do a few things...

Bring back Izzy

Bring back Adler

Axl gets vocal chord surgery

I don't want Matt Sorum and Gilby ****ing Clark, I want the ORIGINAL BAND... and Axl needs to get his voice right again.

Matt Sorum is a better drummer than Steven Adler in every way. Adler is barely functional at this point. It's a miracle he is still alive.

Dinny Bossa Nova
01-30-2016, 05:42 PM
:deevee: WTF is that? Shittiest solo ever.

It's a joke.

The guy does that for Vai, EVH and others and they've been on the Internet for at least five years, if not ten.

Personally, I think it's brilliant and hysterical. I literally cried because I was laughing so hard the first time I saw the EVH video.

I confess I did not know it was a joke. I honestly did not think Slash was a better guitar player than that. The only GNR stuff I have ever heard was the over-saturated radio days stuff and was not a fan.

Strangely, it's not so funny now that I know it's a joke.

Would someone please be a dear and pass the egg remover for my face?

Dinny

Dinny Bossa Nova
01-30-2016, 06:11 PM
And I always thought that Axl's voice sounded like someone was revving up a Bridgestone 60cc motorcycle.

I have had my head buried in the blues/jazz sand for so long that the last "new" band I liked was the Black Crowes.

I'm not sayin' I'm old, but you should have seen Moses when he sang backup for me. He was a hilarious fun drunk.

Dinny

Brock
01-30-2016, 06:41 PM
Matt Sorum is a better drummer than Steven Adler in every way. Adler is barely functional at this point. It's a miracle he is still alive.

Probably true, but they started sounding generic when sorum joined

DaneMcCloud
01-30-2016, 06:48 PM
Adler is too fucked up. No way he could play a show.

I was about to say this.

Matt Sorum is a better drummer than Steven Adler in every way. Adler is barely functional at this point. It's a miracle he is still alive.

This really isn't true. Adler's doing much better these days. He played his ass of at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction and his band, Adler's Appetite, is surprisingly not bad.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I ran into him at Ralphs on Ventura not too long ago and he was fine.

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DaneMcCloud
01-30-2016, 06:51 PM
Matt Sorum is a better drummer than Steven Adler in every way. Adler is barely functional at this point. It's a miracle he is still alive.

I completely disagree.

Adler has a killer backbeat and pocket. It's insane.

Matt, on the other, is like a metronome - no pocket. It was sterile on the Use Your Illusion tracks he played on and really bad on the Cult record Beyond Good And Evil.

He was better in Velvet Revolver because Duff & Slash have learned how to play behind Matt and Weiland always sings behind the beat.

Matt's a great guy. I mean, super cool. But I'm taking Adler every day over Matt for Guns 'N' Roses.

SAUTO
01-30-2016, 09:16 PM
And I always thought that Axl's voice sounded like someone was revving up a Bridgestone 60cc motorcycle.

I have had my head buried in the blues/jazz sand for so long that the last "new" band I liked was the Black Crowes.

I'm not sayin' I'm old, but you should have seen Moses when he sang backup for me. He was a hilarious fun drunk.

Dinny you aren't old. Crusty maybe but not old.


It's all about the soul...

beach tribe
01-31-2016, 09:08 AM
This really isn't true. Adler's doing much better these days. He played his ass of at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction and his band, Adler's Appetite, is surprisingly not bad.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I ran into him at Ralphs on Ventura not too long ago and he was fine.

<a href="<iframe width=" 420"="" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ew1hTdxlWpg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="">"><a href="<iframe width=" 420"="" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ew1hTdxlWpg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""><iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ew1hTdxlWpg" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

No shit?

I'm glad to hear that.

Not many come back from where he's been.

Spott
01-31-2016, 10:45 AM
I'd rather go back in time 30 years and stow away on the space shuttle than see Guns and Roses.

Deberg_1990
03-26-2016, 10:16 PM
Tour dates announced!

KC on the list of 21 cities!

http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_29685405/guns-n-roses-touring-21-cities-this-summer


In addition to San Francisco, the band will also play Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Kansas City, Nashville, New Orleans, New York, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Seattle, St. Louis, Toronto, and Washington.

Easy 6
03-26-2016, 10:22 PM
Probably true, but they started sounding generic when sorum joined

Where is Brock anyway?

His absence has been notable

listopencil
03-26-2016, 10:26 PM
Tour dates announced!

KC on the list of 21 cities!

http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_29685405/guns-n-roses-touring-21-cities-this-summer


In addition to San Francisco, the band will also play Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Kansas City, Nashville, New Orleans, New York, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Seattle, St. Louis, Toronto, and Washington.


That's cool, I guess. Who are they going to get to sing?

listopencil
03-26-2016, 10:26 PM
Hey. Maybe Adam Lambert from American Idol has some free time.

Pushead2
03-27-2016, 07:45 AM
On a side bar, I wish Udo Dirkschneider was filling in for AC/DC instead of Rose.

chiefscafan
03-27-2016, 09:56 AM
I'm going to see them April 8th in Vegas figured that this whole thing could blow up before they get to CA. Just hoping AXL can still sing.

Dayze
03-27-2016, 10:48 AM
I fell for that shit last
Time they rolled through town. $220 for two tickets and it was the worst sounding concert I've ever been to. The mix sucked, it was all bass drum and vocals. Couldn't even hear the guitar. Axl huffing and puffing around stage, half assigng lyrics.



Buyer beware. Never again will I buy tickets to an old band trying to grab another payday.

KC2004
03-27-2016, 11:47 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Dj-zhqtKQ2Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Adler still has it. :clap:

eDave
03-27-2016, 11:53 AM
Adler still has it. :clap:

That's good to see

patteeu
03-27-2016, 12:29 PM
On a side bar, I wish Udo Dirkschneider was filling in for AC/DC instead of Rose.

That would be perfect if he's still capable of doing it.

Easy 6
03-27-2016, 02:40 PM
That would be perfect if he's still capable of doing it.

He is still actively touring with his band U.D.O.

He could definitely pull it off, but to me he is too close to Brian Johnson in style... I'd rather see them get someone more reminiscent of Bon Scott

rabblerouser
03-27-2016, 09:59 PM
It's a joke.

The guy does that for Vai, EVH and others and they've been on the Internet for at least five years, if not ten.

Personally, I think it's brilliant and hysterical. I literally cried because I was laughing so hard the first time I saw the EVH video.

The Phish one...

rabblerouser
03-27-2016, 10:01 PM
I completely disagree.

Adler has a killer backbeat and pocket. It's insane.

Matt, on the other, is like a metronome - no pocket. It was sterile on the Use Your Illusion tracks he played on and really bad on the Cult record Beyond Good And Evil.

He was better in Velvet Revolver because Duff & Slash have learned how to play behind Matt and Weiland always sings behind the beat.

Matt's a great guy. I mean, super cool. But I'm taking Adler every day over Matt for Guns 'N' Roses.

100% accurate.

I know he was a handful, but man I miss Scotty...

Chiefaholic
03-29-2016, 08:18 PM
Axl is a joke.... I wouldn't walk across the street to watch a free concert.


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DaneMcCloud
03-29-2016, 08:51 PM
Oh yeah, good grief. I knew Slash was broke but what I heard on Sunday was really bad.

He really needs the big US tour, financially speaking, so I hope that for his sake, it happens.

Also, take it FWIW but the reason why Izzy, Gilby and Adler are out so far is money.

Frank and Richard Fortus will take a lot less, which is good for Slash.

Apparently, Axl doesn't need money and as anyone that's followed Duff's career the past decade, he doesn't either.

teedubya
03-30-2016, 01:21 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/R8VOM5EK40A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yes! There were SOOO many titties on the big screen that day between Metallica and GnR.

Dayze
03-30-2016, 06:30 AM
Oh yeah, good grief. I knew Slash was broke but what I heard on Sunday was really bad.

He really needs the big US tour, financially speaking, so I hope that for his sake, it happens.

Also, take it FWIW but the reason why Izzy, Gilby and Adler are out so far is money.

Frank and Richard Fortus will take a lot less, which is good for Slash.

Apparently, Axl doesn't need money and as anyone that's followed Duff's career the past decade, he doesn't either.

why/how is Slash broke? Have you heard?
sucks...I wish Axl was the one who was broke dick as his voice.

Sully
03-30-2016, 07:37 AM
Oh yeah, good grief. I knew Slash was broke but what I heard on Sunday was really bad.

He really needs the big US tour, financially speaking, so I hope that for his sake, it happens.

Also, take it FWIW but the reason why Izzy, Gilby and Adler are out so far is money.

Frank and Richard Fortus will take a lot less, which is good for Slash.

Apparently, Axl doesn't need money and as anyone that's followed Duff's career the past decade, he doesn't either.

Heard Duff on a few podcasts, and he's really fascinating. Sitting on loads of Starbucks money.

patteeu
03-30-2016, 08:02 AM
Heard Duff on a few podcasts, and he's really fascinating. Sitting on loads of Starbucks money.

He wrote a good memoir, if you're interested in more Duff.

Sully
03-30-2016, 08:08 AM
He wrote a good memoir, if you're interested in more Duff.

I'll look it up. Thanks.

journeyscarab
03-30-2016, 08:32 AM
Yes! There were SOOO many titties on the big screen that day between Metallica and GnR.

Among other body parts. PBJ:dom:

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 10:27 AM
why/how is Slash broke? Have you heard?
sucks...I wish Axl was the one who was broke dick as his voice.

Axl owns the GNR name. He's been able to earn tens of millions of dollars due to that name, whether it was the $13 million he garnered for Chinese Democracy or shows all over the world, in which everyone is a hired gun. He was raking in millions per show while paying his musicians $5k a week. And while $250k per year sounds great and all, that was a pittance compared to what Axl was earning.

In terms of the early Guns records, well, as everyone knows, CD's just don't sell anymore, so that revenue stream is all but dead. And while the perception of GNR is that Slash is "the" guitarist, he never fully wrote any of their songs and was listed as a co-songwriter on less than a handful. So radio play, film synchronization and even streaming revenues would be paltry, especially given that the songs were released 25+ years ago when the Statutory Rate was 5 cents, 25% of which goes to the publisher and with the remainder split among the songwriters.

Snakepit and Velvet Revolver didn't really provide much revenue and his solo records with Myles are all self-funded, as he's not signed to a major label. He's not touring or opening for big bands like Metallica or Megadeth (et al), they're playing clubs and casinos. That's a tough way to earn a living, even if your name is Slash. And his record sales barely cover the cost of the recordings.

Two divorces don't help either, especially his latest, which meant selling his home, splitting any revenues with his ex, giving up 50% community property, as well as paying child support to his two kids. Last I heard, he was renting a home for $3k a month in the Valley.

Guns and Roses was one of the biggest bands in the world but their original lineup barely lasted 7 years, in which they mostly burned through every penny they earned during that period. It's a fairly sad story but not at all uncommon, as most of the "rock stars" from the 80's are all broke and haven't been able to afford living in Los Angeles since their heyday.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 10:35 AM
He wrote a good memoir, if you're interested in more Duff.

I'll look it up. Thanks.

I have his first book, which is pretty interesting. He details his childhood, growing up in the punk scene, early GNR, Velvet Revolver and more. He's a very articulate and smart guy, something that I wouldn't have expected having met him in 1988, when he was a disaster of a drug fueled mess. But once he cleaned up, he couldn't have been any nicer, as we used to run into each other post-2004 at restaurants and such, in which he was always a pleasure.

On a side note, I was fortunate enough to hear his unreleased 1999 Geffen Record about 2 weeks ago and I have to say, it was freaking awesome. I was really blown away. It was definitely a "Seattle" sounding record and nothing like the subsequent records he released with his solo band or the 1996 flop with the Neurotic Outsiders (they got a $1 million dollar signing bonus, which was desperately needed by Duff and especially John Taylor of Duran Duran, who was completely broke and living in a single in Venice Beach).

Anyway, the record was awesome and it's a shame it'll never see the light of day.

Dayze
03-30-2016, 02:33 PM
Cool stuff. Thanks for posting Dane.

cosmo20002
03-30-2016, 02:37 PM
Oh yeah, good grief. I knew Slash was broke but what I heard on Sunday was really bad.
He really needs the big US tour, financially speaking, so I hope that for his sake, it happens.

Also, take it FWIW but the reason why Izzy, Gilby and Adler are out so far is money.

Frank and Richard Fortus will take a lot less, which is good for Slash.

Apparently, Axl doesn't need money and as anyone that's followed Duff's career the past decade, he doesn't either.

Ooooooh....Dane is teasing us with his inside info. OMG I hope he lets us in on it!

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 02:39 PM
Ooooooh....Dane is teasing us with his inside info. OMG I hope he lets us in on it!

Get off my cock

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 02:40 PM
Cool stuff. Thanks for posting Dane.

I'm not sure if the info was exactly cool (especially for Slash!) but you're welcome.

:D

cosmo20002
03-30-2016, 02:43 PM
Axl owns the GNR name. He's been able to earn tens of millions of dollars due to that name, whether it was the $13 million he garnered for Chinese Democracy or shows all over the world, in which everyone is a hired gun. He was raking in millions per show while paying his musicians $5k a week. And while $250k per year sounds great and all, that was a pittance compared to what Axl was earning.

In terms of the early Guns records, well, as everyone knows, CD's just don't sell anymore, so that revenue stream is all but dead. And while the perception of GNR is that Slash is "the" guitarist, he never fully wrote any of their songs and was listed as a co-songwriter on less than a handful. So radio play, film synchronization and even streaming revenues would be paltry, especially given that the songs were released 25+ years ago when the Statutory Rate was 5 cents, 25% of which goes to the publisher and with the remainder split among the songwriters.

Snakepit and Velvet Revolver didn't really provide much revenue and his solo records with Myles are all self-funded, as he's not signed to a major label. He's not touring or opening for big bands like Metallica or Megadeth (et al), they're playing clubs and casinos. That's a tough way to earn a living, even if your name is Slash. And his record sales barely cover the cost of the recordings.

Two divorces don't help either, especially his latest, which meant selling his home, splitting any revenues with his ex, giving up 50% community property, as well as paying child support to his two kids. Last I heard, he was renting a home for $3k a month in the Valley.

Guns and Roses was one of the biggest bands in the world but their original lineup barely lasted 7 years, in which they mostly burned through every penny they earned during that period. It's a fairly sad story but not at all uncommon, as most of the "rock stars" from the 80's are all broke and haven't been able to afford living in Los Angeles since their heyday.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/files/2014/05/Harvey-Levin-0523.jpg

Dayze
03-30-2016, 02:47 PM
Yeah. Cool was probably the wrong word. I should've said Interesting. I guess I just always assumed guys like Slash etc were just loaded. Guess not. Lol.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 02:52 PM
.

You're a fucking dipshit.

Go fuck yourself, moron.

Deberg_1990
03-30-2016, 03:25 PM
Ooooooh....Dane is teasing us with his inside info. OMG I hope he lets us in on it!

He didn't tease dumbass.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=12156209&postcount=149

Easy 6
03-30-2016, 05:13 PM
If everything Dane says about the reason why Izzy and Adler are out is true, and I have no reason to doubt him... then I am severely disappoint with Slash above all, then Axl, then Duff

They dont wanna give the other originals a fair shake, primarily so Slash can rake it in?

Wow, ****' em

As far as I knew, Axl and Izzy are still close pals... that might change now

SWEAR I wont pay a dime to see these guys, but I would've paid through my ****ing nose to see the original lineup

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 05:21 PM
If everything Dane says about the reason why Izzy and Adler are out is true, and I have no reason to doubt him... then I am severely disappoint with Slash above all, then Axl, then Duff

They dont wanna give the other originals a fair shake, primarily so Slash can rake it in?

Wow, ****' em

As far as I knew, Axl and Izzy are still close pals... that might change now

SWEAR I wont pay a dime to see these guys, but I would've paid through my ****ing nose to see the original lineup

Adler REALLY wants in and there's rumors to suggest that he might make an appearance from time to time but Izzy's not going to do it just for the sake of doing it.

Also, keep in mind, Duff and Slash, just like Frank, Chris, Richard and Dizzy, are all employees of GNR/Axl. Axl knows he can get more guaranteed money with Slash and Duff but that doesn't mean that he's treating them as equal partners, either.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 05:27 PM
SWEAR I wont pay a dime to see these guys, but I would've paid through my ****ing nose to see the original lineup

I wouldn't pay a cent to see them, either. The whole thing is a money grab, which IMO, makes it a farce.

If Izzy doesn't want in, Gilby's the right guy, not Fortus. While I realize that Fortus and Frank are much better players than Izzy and Adler, the "magic" of that band came from Izzy and Adler, not Frank or Richard.

Dayze
03-30-2016, 05:30 PM
well, a few years back I dropped I think a total of $225 to see "GNR" (Axl and the hired guns), and it sucked. Hard.

my wife and I spent 3/4 of the concert sitting out in the lounge area of the theater, drinking beer and talking, waiting for our friends to get out after the concert was done. The mix was terrible - ALL vocals and ALL bass drum. couldn't even hear any bass lines or rhythm guitar. compound that with the fact Axl looked like he was about to pass out the while 'singing' and forgetting words....

awful. that was my last "Man...I gotta see Band XYZ again before they stop touring"/money grab concerts I'll ever go to. shit, one of the best concerts I've been to was Tesla about 8 years ago. $35 (maybe $50), small outside standing room only venue... it was awesome.

Chief Northman
03-30-2016, 05:49 PM
I wouldn't pay a cent to see them, either. The whole thing is a money grab, which IMO, makes it a farce.

If Izzy doesn't want in, Gilby's the right guy, not Fortus. While I realize that Fortus and Frank are much better players than Izzy and Adler, the "magic" of that band came from Izzy and Adler, not Frank or Richard.

I cannot corroborate with your knowledge of the behind-the-scenes happenings pertaining to the band. I humbly leave that to you to report.
What I will say is that I fully agree with your assessments about Izzy and Steve being the magic. Earlier in the thread there was mild debate about Matt Sorum versus Steve Adler and I completely concur with what you said regarding their respective skill sets. It is hard to explain but the raw edge that Adler provides to his backbeat is something Sorum was never able to match. I played drums for a lot of years and God only knows how many times that tracklist for Appetite for Destruction got beat into my old Pearl kit so many years ago....

Easy 6
03-30-2016, 05:49 PM
Adler REALLY wants in and there's rumors to suggest that he might make an appearance from time to time but Izzy's not going to do it just for the sake of doing it.

Also, keep in mind, Duff and Slash, just like Frank, Chris, Richard and Dizzy, are all employees of GNR/Axl. Axl knows he can get more guaranteed money with Slash and Duff but that doesn't mean that he's treating them as equal partners, either.

Izzy looks to be the one guy that just doesnt care, seems content to do his own thing other than maybe showing up at a few shows in years past filling in for Gilby, or just as an occasional lark lately

It just sucks to think of what used to be such a raw and real rock band being total money whores like this... if you're gonna get the band back together, try to recapture some old ugly, then do it right

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2016, 07:32 PM
Izzy looks to be the one guy that just doesnt care, seems content to do his own thing other than maybe showing up at a few shows in years past filling in for Gilby, or just as an occasional lark lately

It just sucks to think of what used to be such a raw and real rock band being total money whores like this... if you're gonna get the band back together, try to recapture some old ugly, then do it right

Yeah man, those days have passed.

It's all about the green.

stevieray
03-30-2016, 08:29 PM
Roses net worth is 150 million. I saw them back in the day..He was a pompous prick on stage.

Never again.

Halfcan
03-30-2016, 09:07 PM
Izzy looks to be the one guy that just doesnt care, seems content to do his own thing other than maybe showing up at a few shows in years past filling in for Gilby, or just as an occasional lark lately

It just sucks to think of what used to be such a raw and real rock band being total money whores like this... if you're gonna get the band back together, try to recapture some old ugly, then do it right

I have read that Izzy does not want to deal with the constant grind of a tour. He is doing his own thing-writing music and putting out solo stuff. His records sound pretty good.

Izzy wrote a lot of the GnR stuff and probably gets enough royalties to pay his bills.

There would not be a GnR without Izzy.

Halfcan
03-30-2016, 09:09 PM
Roses net worth is 150 million. I saw them back in the day..He was a pompous prick on stage.

Never again.

This will be going up after he plays those gigs with AC DC.

cosmo20002
03-31-2016, 12:32 AM
If everything Dane says about the reason why Izzy and Adler are out is true, and I have no reason to doubt him... then I am severely disappoint with Slash above all, then Axl, then Duff

They dont wanna give the other originals a fair shake, primarily so Slash can rake it in?

Wow, ****' em

As far as I knew, Axl and Izzy are still close pals... that might change now

SWEAR I wont pay a dime to see these guys, but I would've paid through my ****ing nose to see the original lineup

This is likely bullshit, as Slash likely has nothing to do with nor any say in how much anyone is paid.

Jerm
04-01-2016, 02:14 PM
They announced the dates today....June 29th for K.C.

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 02:47 PM
This is likely bullshit, as Slash likely has nothing to do with nor any say in how much anyone is paid.

This has already been addressed, Twat

Also, keep in mind, Duff and Slash, just like Frank, Chris, Richard and Dizzy, are all employees of GNR/Axl. Axl knows he can get more guaranteed money with Slash and Duff but that doesn't mean that he's treating them as equal partners, either.

Deberg_1990
04-01-2016, 03:30 PM
They announced the dates today....June 29th for K.C.

Location?

cosmo20002
04-01-2016, 03:43 PM
Location?

Arrowhead

Various pre-sales start tomorrow. Public sales 4/8.
No breakdown on ticket prices other than price range of $45-$250.

patteeu
04-01-2016, 03:44 PM
For $25 you can see the Dandy Warhols at the Riot Room this Sunday.

Bowser
04-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Arrowhead

Various pre-sales start tomorrow. Public sales 4/8.
No breakdown on ticket prices other than price range of $45-$250.

And that is BEFORE the Ticketmaster raping. So up close seats for GnR are going to run about tree-fiddy? Think I'll pass on those.

eDave
04-01-2016, 03:57 PM
For $25 you can see the Dandy Warhols at the Riot Room this Sunday.

MUCH better show. IMO. Nice choice there patteeu.

Bowser
04-01-2016, 04:00 PM
For $25 you can see the Dandy Warhols at the Riot Room this Sunday.

Yes, but will they do November Rain?

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 04:02 PM
If they sell out all of those stadiums and arenas, they'll be the highest grossing tour of the year, by a wide margain

patteeu
04-01-2016, 04:12 PM
Yes, but will they do November Rain?

Probably not, but the will most likely play Crack Cocaine Rager and they might do a Rolling Stones cover or something along those lines.

Deberg_1990
04-01-2016, 04:15 PM
And that is BEFORE the Ticketmaster raping. So up close seats for GnR are going to run about tree-fiddy? Think I'll pass on those.

You wont, but im sure alot of people will.

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 04:17 PM
And that is BEFORE the Ticketmaster raping. So up close seats for GnR are going to run about tree-fiddy? Think I'll pass on those.

I'll bet that once scalpers get ahold of the tickets, it'll be a lot more than $350.

When Van Halen played their first comeback show with Dave at Staples Center, tickets were $2k for the upper seats.

Halfcan
04-01-2016, 04:18 PM
If they sell out all of those stadiums and arenas, they'll be the highest grossing tour of the year, by a wide margain

I don't see how they think they can sell out stadiums? They have not been relevant for 25 years. :rolleyes:

GnR canceled a show at Arrowhead before and fucked the fans over-I wouldn't count on them not doing it again. :cuss:

Old band-1 good record-not original line up-asshole lead singer-high ticket prices= half filled stadiums.

Nothing but a money grab rip off. Pass.

Easy 6
04-01-2016, 04:33 PM
Listening to Appetite for the first time in a while right now, what a slab of raw meat it is... no wonder its still the biggest selling debut album of all time

But the crazy prices being bandied about for a reunion without Adler and Izzy is laughable

I'll just sit here and jam like its still 1987 all over again for free

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 04:40 PM
I don't see how they think they can sell out stadiums? They have not been relevant for 25 years. :rolleyes:

GnR canceled a show at Arrowhead before and fucked the fans over-I wouldn't count on them not doing it again. :cuss:

Old band-1 good record-not original line up-asshole lead singer-high ticket prices= half filled stadiums.

Nothing but a money grab rip off. Pass.

It'll be the promotion company that loses their ass if GNR doesn't sell out or at least get 90% capacity in these venues, not GNR.

The biggest issue for this tour was guaranteed money, of which GNR wanted a minimum of $3-5 million per night, depending on the venue.

So if there's only 35,000 tickets sold at Arrowhead at an average of $100 per, the promoter is going to lose his ass.

That said, I'm sure this was all researched before the tour was announced because no one wants to lose money.

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 04:47 PM
In case you all hadn't heard, GNR is doing a show at the Troubador tonight in WeHo, which is one the first places they gigged at during the 80's. There was a crazy ass line on Sunset Blvd. today for people that wanted free tickets.

A few people mentioned to me today that they don't think that cell phone video will be allowed but it'll be interesting to see what goes up on YouTube and/or the reviews after tonight's show.

If there was any place to see GNR, the Troub is it.

stevieray
04-01-2016, 04:49 PM
It'll be the promotion company that loses their ass if GNR doesn't sell out or at least get 90% capacity in these venues, not GNR.

The biggest issue for this tour was guaranteed money, of which GNR wanted a minimum of $3-5 million per night, depending on the venue.

So if there's only 35,000 tickets sold at Arrowhead at an average of $100 per, the promoter is going to lose his ass.

That said, I'm sure this was all researched before the tour was announced because no one wants to lose money.Me thinks this AC/DC gig might be a barometer too...if he can pull it off (doing rock staple covers), then the road "back" just got easier.

eDave
04-01-2016, 04:51 PM
It'll be the promotion company that loses their ass if GNR doesn't sell out or at least get 90% capacity in these venues, not GNR.

The biggest issue for this tour was guaranteed money, of which GNR wanted a minimum of $3-5 million per night, depending on the venue.

So if there's only 35,000 tickets sold at Arrowhead at an average of $100 per, the promoter is going to lose his ass.

That said, I'm sure this was all researched before the tour was announced because no one wants to lose money.

Good god. NO incentive to put on a good show either.

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 04:58 PM
Good god. NO incentive to put on a good show either.

I expect the band to be "on" every night but as always, Axl is question mark.

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 04:59 PM
Me thinks this AC/DC gig might be a barometer too...if he can pull it off (doing rock staple covers), then the road "back" just got easier.

For sure. It seems like a super risky gig but maybe his body and voice are in shape.

eDave
04-01-2016, 05:03 PM
I expect the band to be "on" every night but as always, Axl is question mark.

I'll see them in two weeks at Coachella so we'll see.

If anyone is interested in seeing the live webcast, go here: https://www.coachella.com/

They headline Saturday night. You should be able to catch reruns later in the night and through the weekend.

BigRedChief
04-01-2016, 05:12 PM
I don't see how they think they can sell out stadiums? They have not been relevant for 25 years. :rolleyes:

GnR canceled a show at Arrowhead before and fucked the fans over-I wouldn't count on them not doing it again. :cuss:

Old band-1 good record-not original line up-asshole lead singer-high ticket prices= half filled stadiums.

Nothing but a money grab rip off. Pass.They are getting a guaranteed $3-$5 million per show. Not counting merchandising.

You can fit 100K in most of those stadiums. Thats only $50 of the ticket to GnR to meet the guarantee. Still a lot of profit to be had by the promoters.

Stargazer
04-01-2016, 05:20 PM
They are getting a guaranteed $3-$5 million per show. Not counting merchandising.

You can fit 100K in most of those stadiums. Thats only $50 of the ticket to GnR to meet the guarantee. Still a lot of profit to be had by the promoters.

No where near 100K when you factor in the stage blocking off 15,000 seats or more.

Easy 6
04-01-2016, 05:33 PM
Totally agree with those who say Adler and Izzy were the magic, Adler hits with great power but plays loose at the same time, he totally sets the table here... and Izzy was the perfect foil, he provided the discordant background to offset Slash' melodies

Their most underappreciated song of all IMO, an all time performance of it here...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/c7xQ04nlePM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

tecumseh
04-01-2016, 06:27 PM
They don't have enough good songs for a stadium show. Few bands do. Springsteen. Stones. Macca. Eagles. Beyond those bands, the show would consist of 45 minutes of good material and 45 minutes of noodling and songs no one cares about. Not worth more than thirty bucks tops with parking. IMO, Slash is over exposed anyway. he's crisscrossed with Axl soundalike Miles n Co, so anyone wanting to pay to see/hear already spent. The only reason to shell out would be spectacle. Maybe Slash smashes a guitar over Axl's head.

Dinny Bossa Nova
04-01-2016, 07:04 PM
If Slash smashed a guitar over Axl's head, that would really be something.

I wonder what would happen next.

Dinny

jd1020
04-01-2016, 07:09 PM
If Slash smashed a guitar over Axl's head, that would really be something.

I wonder what would happen next.

Dinny

I would imagine Axl would let out a yelp that could only be described as a sound produced by a 90 year old British woman, and then die.

SAUTO
04-01-2016, 07:10 PM
They don't have enough good songs for a stadium show. Few bands do. Springsteen. Stones. Macca. Eagles. Beyond those bands, the show would consist of 45 minutes of good material and 45 minutes of noodling and songs no one cares about. Not worth more than thirty bucks tops with parking. IMO, Slash is over exposed anyway. he's crisscrossed with Axl soundalike Miles n Co, so anyone wanting to pay to see/hear already spent. The only reason to shell out would be spectacle. Maybe Slash smashes a guitar over Axl's head.
They have enough good songs to do a stadium show. Maybe not ones you like but they definitely have enough.

Pitt Gorilla
04-01-2016, 07:11 PM
If Slash smashed a guitar over Axl's head, that would really be something.

I wonder what would happen next.

DinnyThe concert would improve.

eDave
04-01-2016, 07:14 PM
They don't have enough good songs for a stadium show. Few bands do. Springsteen. Stones. Macca. Eagles. Beyond those bands, the show would consist of 45 minutes of good material and 45 minutes of noodling and songs no one cares about. Not worth more than thirty bucks tops with parking. IMO, Slash is over exposed anyway. he's crisscrossed with Axl soundalike Miles n Co, so anyone wanting to pay to see/hear already spent. The only reason to shell out would be spectacle. Maybe Slash smashes a guitar over Axl's head.

This will be their crowd at Coachella.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5YRCmbHH2W4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SAUTO
04-01-2016, 07:15 PM
This will be their crowd at Coachella.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5YRCmbHH2W4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm WAY jealous that you are going.


Jesus

Dinny Bossa Nova
04-01-2016, 07:21 PM
I would imagine Axl would let out a yelp that could only be described as a sound produced by a 90 year old British woman, and then die.

Well, yeah, if he smashed him with one of the 'Pauls. Those things are a 9 or 10 pound battle axe.

If he whacked him with an acoustic, he might pull through.

Either way, it would sure be something.

Dinny

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 07:44 PM
They don't have enough good songs for a stadium show. Few bands do. Springsteen. Stones. Macca. Eagles. Beyond those bands, the show would consist of 45 minutes of good material and 45 minutes of noodling and songs no one cares about. Not worth more than thirty bucks tops with parking. IMO, Slash is over exposed anyway. he's crisscrossed with Axl soundalike Miles n Co, so anyone wanting to pay to see/hear already spent. The only reason to shell out would be spectacle. Maybe Slash smashes a guitar over Axl's head.

:facepalm:

SAUTO
04-01-2016, 07:52 PM
:facepalm:

Another blackbob level post.

He's infected this fucking place

SAUTO
04-01-2016, 08:08 PM
This will be their crowd at Coachella.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5YRCmbHH2W4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

What time in the video

eDave
04-01-2016, 08:17 PM
What time in the video

I'm up in the corner, near the stage, close to the side railing to the right of the center isle. I'm in there man. Busting loose.

DaneMcCloud
04-01-2016, 08:19 PM
So Slash, Duff, Fortus and Dizzy have arrived at the Troub...

SAUTO
04-01-2016, 08:19 PM
I'm up in the corner, near the stage, close to the side railing to the right of the center isle. I'm in there man. Busting loose.

Oh I believe it. Looks awesome.


Near future I'm gonna have to pull that off

eDave
04-01-2016, 08:22 PM
Oh I believe it. Looks awesome.


Near future I'm gonna have to pull that off

Check this out. 2010.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nb5GpV_LUuU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SAUTO
04-01-2016, 08:25 PM
Check this out. 2010.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nb5GpV_LUuU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

My wife wants to go every year, next year might have to be the one.

eDave
04-01-2016, 08:39 PM
Last highjack. Much better vid. You can see me in this one at :30 from 2014. Lewdog can confirm that is me as he knows what I look like. Now you do too! I'm playing water balloon toss.

http://i.imgur.com/ctPRouO.jpg

<iframe width="1100" height="619" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EoIbqjsTxJY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SAUTO
04-01-2016, 08:42 PM
I'm not doubting you at all buddy

eDave
04-01-2016, 08:48 PM
I'm not doubting you at all buddy

That last video really gets me going. I watch it everyday right now. 14 days...

BigRedChief
04-01-2016, 09:27 PM
No where near 100K when you factor in the stage blocking off 15,000 seats or more.Most stadiums I saw on the list can. But thats not the point I was making. If Van Halen can sell out arenas at $125-$150 average, there is plenty of room for GnR to make $5 million a gig and the promoter to still make a profit.

cosmo20002
04-01-2016, 10:29 PM
I don't see how they think they can sell out stadiums? They have not been relevant for 25 years. :rolleyes:

GnR canceled a show at Arrowhead before and ****ed the fans over-I wouldn't count on them not doing it again. :cuss:

Old band-1 good record-not original line up-asshole lead singer-high ticket prices= half filled stadiums.

Nothing but a money grab rip off. Pass.

Price range on tix is $45-$250. I don't know what portion are going to be in the $150-$250 range, but I have a feeling they are seriously overestimating the willingness to pay those prices.

Those are Rolling Stones prices, and they have 50 years of legendary status with many willing to pay to see them one last time before they keel over.
It was pretty full, but the Stones didn't sell out Arrowhead last summer. And they ended up giving away 100s of high-dollar tickets.

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:04 AM
My friend is at Troubadour's in Hollywood and Guns and Roses just started playing.
It's one of the local clubs they started at more or less

eDave
04-02-2016, 01:05 AM
My friend is at Troubadour's in Hollywood and Guns and Roses just started playing.
It's one of the local clubs they started at more or less

Qool.

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:07 AM
Qool.

They had 300 tickets. There's probably 3000 people outside per him. But he's a Web designer with a friend in the music biz

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:08 AM
Nick Cage is there and Lenny Kravitz

eDave
04-02-2016, 01:10 AM
They had 300 tickets. There's probably 3000 people outside per him. But he's a Web designer with a friend in the music biz

Quality stuff man

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:18 AM
Axl lost weight it appears

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:19 AM
There's an instantgram video but not sure how to transfer

eDave
04-02-2016, 01:20 AM
There's an instantgram video but not sure how to transfer

Can you post the link? Thank you sweetie.

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:20 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDsF1ktOny2/

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:21 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDsGWl_C8v_/

eDave
04-02-2016, 01:22 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDsF1ktOny2/

Damn that's awful. Worse than I expected.

Thanks. I guess.

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 01:28 AM
Lol

eDave
04-02-2016, 01:30 AM
Lol

I mean c'mon! HE'S replacing Brian Johnson? This is a disaster.

DaNewGuy
04-02-2016, 01:33 AM
Ewww

DaNewGuy
04-02-2016, 01:34 AM
They should just go get the guy from Bush and reform
Nirvana

ILChief
04-02-2016, 06:10 AM
Reviews have actually been quite good

Halfcan
04-02-2016, 09:05 AM
Price range on tix is $45-$250. I don't know what portion are going to be in the $150-$250 range, but I have a feeling they are seriously overestimating the willingness to pay those prices.

Those are Rolling Stones prices, and they have 50 years of legendary status with many willing to pay to see them one last time before they keel over.
It was pretty full, but the Stones didn't sell out Arrowhead last summer. And they ended up giving away 100s of high-dollar tickets.

This ^ Chesney did and so did Swift-but they are huge right now.

Monsters of Rock-back in the day with VH, Metallica, Scorpions, and Dokken did not completely sell out Arrowhead.

I was burned before by Axle- never again. :shake:

Halfcan
04-02-2016, 09:16 AM
Damn that's awful. Worse than I expected.

Thanks. I guess.

Was that suppose to be Mr. Brownstone?

Sounds like a tribute band.

Most don't realize Izzy did a majority of the solos early on until Slash really came into his own. Izzy was so underrated -his guitar sound was just nasty. GnR was never as good without him.

Chief Northman
04-02-2016, 10:15 AM
Its so Easy.

Recorded off a mobile device. 6 seconds of footage.

CP already declares the Gn'R "reunion" a massive fail.....

LoneWolf
04-02-2016, 10:17 AM
Its so Easy.

Recorded off a mobile device. 6 seconds of footage.

CP already declares the Gn'R "reunion" a massive fail.....

BUST!!!

KC2004
04-02-2016, 10:20 AM
Got in on a pre-sale today for the Guns show at Arrowhead. 2 Floor tickets (section J) in the back was going to cost $350.10 plus a $27.00 Parking pass. Up front floor and lower levels (section 103 for example) were $250 a ticket plus Ticket master fees. Club level 240 2 tickets $242 with fees. Couldn't bring myself to spend that much.

DaneMcCloud
04-02-2016, 10:27 AM
Most don't realize Izzy did a majority of the solos early on until Slash really came into his own. Izzy was so underrated -his guitar sound was just nasty. GnR was never as good without him.

I can't claim to know everything that happened in Hollywood back in the day but I've never heard this story.

Upon moving to LA, I met a guitarist one night at the old FM Station in NoHo and became very good friends with him. He had been asked to join Poison before CC (the original guitarist's girlfriend became pregnant and they moved home to PA), GNR before Slash (after Tracii left and they tried a bunch of guys) but turned them down because he thought that his band was going to be signed and hit it big (never happened but he was part of a few bands that got deals).

Anyway, he had a cassette of the demos for Appetite and IMO at the time, it was better than what was released. It was even rawer and Slash's playing was much better.

Back to the point: I'd never heard from anyone, whether it was Slash or Duff or Tracii (our kids were in preschool together for 3+ years) or anyone else in "the scene" that Izzy had ever been the lead guitarist for Guns. He even had a lead guitarist in the JuJu Hounds, who I saw a few times because they were signed to Geffen when we all shared a building (Geffen Records, MCA Records and MCA Music Publishing) on Forest Lawn and Barham.

Bowser
04-02-2016, 10:29 AM
Shit, I might just go out and tailgate this thing.

Over-Head
04-02-2016, 10:37 AM
My friend is at Troubadour's in Hollywood and Guns and Roses just started playing.
It's one of the local clubs they started at more or less

Quite a set
http://www.htzfm.com/Paulie/Blog/2016/04/02/guns-n-roses-reunite-at-a-secret-show-in-la

Halfcan
04-02-2016, 11:58 AM
I can't claim to know everything that happened in Hollywood back in the day but I've never heard this story.

Upon moving to LA, I met a guitarist one night at the old FM Station in NoHo and became very good friends with him. He had been asked to join Poison before CC (the original guitarist's girlfriend became pregnant and they moved home to PA), GNR before Slash (after Tracii left and they tried a bunch of guys) but turned them down because he thought that his band was going to be signed and hit it big (never happened but he was part of a few bands that got deals).

Anyway, he had a cassette of the demos for Appetite and IMO at the time, it was better than what was released. It was even rawer and Slash's playing was much better.

Back to the point: I'd never heard from anyone, whether it was Slash or Duff or Tracii (our kids were in preschool together for 3+ years) or anyone else in "the scene" that Izzy had ever been the lead guitarist for Guns. He even had a lead guitarist in the JuJu Hounds, who I saw a few times because they were signed to Geffen when we all shared a building (Geffen Records, MCA Records and MCA Music Publishing) on Forest Lawn and Barham.

We used to rock on GnR back when they were a bar band. My friend lived out there and used to haul equipment around for the bands there, was a bouncer, sound guy and worked around a lot of those bands. Somehow he got several bootleg recordings of GnR when they still had Guns in the band and also early Slash. What I always heard was that Izzy and Axle did most of writing in between guitarist. Izzy wrote all the music-including some fill in solos. When Slash came in he reworked all the solos and added extra off-setting rhythm tracks-which became early bootlegs they passed around to music execs. I am not sure Slash wrote anything on A4D? Other than rework and make the old songs better that they played for years before finally getting a deal. Yes Slash is and always was the Lead-but without Izzy writing those great songs-they never would have been so big.

We rocked out on those bootlegs for years- some of the songs became side one of Live like a Suicide released in 86 I think. My friend wore those out to a point that is all he played. :rolleyes: Then like 5 years later I was at a party and my girlfriends younger sister-yelled turn it up I love this song-and it was the Welcome to the Jungle video. Everybody was loving the "new" band. :rolleyes:

To me this will Always be Guns and Fucking Roses.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Guns+N%27+Roses+Live+at+the+Ritz&&view=detail&mid=EA561B81946BA8EE6BF1EA561B81946BA8EE6BF1&FORM=VRDGAR

DaneMcCloud
04-02-2016, 12:03 PM
We used to rock on GnR back when they were a bar band. My friend lived out there and used to haul equipment around for the bands there, was a bouncer, sound guy and worked around a lot of those bands. Somehow he got several bootleg recordings of GnR when they still had Guns in the band and also early Slash. What I always heard was that Izzy and Axle did most of writing in between guitarist. Izzy wrote all the music-including some fill in solos. When Slash came in he reworked all the solos and added extra off-setting rhythm tracks-which became early bootlegs they passed around to music execs. I am not sure Slash wrote anything on A4D? Other than rework and make the old songs better that they played for years before finally getting a deal. Yes Slash is and always was the Lead-but without Izzy writing those great songs-they never would have been so big.

We rocked out on those bootlegs for years- some of the songs became side one of Live like a Suicide released in 86 I think. My friend wore those out to a point that is all he played. :rolleyes: Then like 5 years later I was at a party and my girlfriends younger sister-yelled turn it up I love this song-and it was the Welcome to the Jungle video. Everybody was loving the "new" band. :rolleyes:

To me this will Always be Guns and Fucking Roses.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Guns+N%27+Roses+Live+at+the+Ritz&&view=detail&mid=EA561B81946BA8EE6BF1EA561B81946BA8EE6BF1&FORM=VRDGAR


Cool, man! IMO, GNR wouldn't have existed without Izzy, as he wrote the majority of the Appetite album. Slash is a co-writer on a few, with Sweet Child O' Mine being his biggest contribution.

I guess it makes sense that Izzy cut some solos while they were in transition but I'd never heard that story before.

And as I previously mentioned, I definely thought the Appetite demos were cooler than what was released. They were much looser and Slash sounded more inspired and not as "mechanical", for lack of a better word.

And no one thought they were going to hit it big. Geffen gave them only $90k to record Appetite, which they quickly spent on booze and drugs, then had to ask Geffen for another $90k to actually record the album.

Halfcan
04-02-2016, 01:32 PM
Cool, man! IMO, GNR wouldn't have existed without Izzy, as he wrote the majority of the Appetite album. Slash is a co-writer on a few, with Sweet Child O' Mine being his biggest contribution.

I guess it makes sense that Izzy cut some solos while they were in transition but I'd never heard that story before.

And as I previously mentioned, I definely thought the Appetite demos were cooler than what was released. They were much looser and Slash sounded more inspired and not as "mechanical", for lack of a better word.

And no one thought they were going to hit it big. Geffen gave them only $90k to record Appetite, which they quickly spent on booze and drugs, then had to ask Geffen for another $90k to actually record the album.

Exactly right-here is a nice link on wiki that tells some of the background for what most think is their biggest song. Not sure who wrote it-looks like it is pieced together from a bunch of sources-but seems pretty spot on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Child_o%27_Mine

You are the first person in decades I have heard mention those demos. I could not agree more!! I was and still am disappointed by what they put out on Live like a Suicide as there were better mixes to those songs and depending on the night-better versions all together.

Way back when I was in a local band, Toxin-we played a lot of GnR-but nobody knew what the hell we were playing. Used to love her, Nice boys, Rocket Queen, Its so easy, and Welcome to the Jungle-my base player was way into them. I think we even got booed. Then the MTV videos and seemingly over night-biggest band in the world.

I still have a copy of the Van Halen demos Gene paid for, lots of Rush bootlegs and sound board mixes, some Jimmy Page sound board bootlegs with the Yard Birds and other oddities-but don't have the GnR ones. :deevee:

DaneMcCloud
04-02-2016, 01:53 PM
Damn that's awful. Worse than I expected.

Thanks. I guess.

Believe it or not, the Troubador is an awful sounding room. Just awful. I've seen hundreds of shows there and no one has ever had an even decent mix. It's really boxy and boomy. The best sound is up in the VIP room, which isolated from the main room.

The Roxy is pretty bad as well as was the old Viper Room (I haven't been there since it changed ownership). The Whiskey was the best sounding room on the Strip in the 90's and early 2000's, IMO, but none were as good as FM Station or The Country Club over the hill in the Valley. Sadly, both clubs shut down years and years ago.

Toby Waller
04-02-2016, 02:22 PM
Believe it or not, the Troubador is an awful sounding room. Just awful. I've seen hundreds of shows there and no one has ever had an even decent mix. It's really boxy and boomy. The best sound is up in the VIP room, which isolated from the main room.

The Roxy is pretty bad as well as was the old Viper Room (I haven't been there since it changed ownership). The Whiskey was the best sounding room on the Strip in the 90's and early 2000's, IMO, but none were as good as FM Station or The Country Club over the hill in the Valley. Sadly, both clubs shut down years and years ago.

I saw Sam Mann and the Apes at the Troubador lol


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eDave
04-02-2016, 02:33 PM
Believe it or not, the Troubador is an awful sounding room. Just awful. I've seen hundreds of shows there and no one has ever had an even decent mix. It's really boxy and boomy. The best sound is up in the VIP room, which isolated from the main room.

The Roxy is pretty bad as well as was the old Viper Room (I haven't been there since it changed ownership). The Whiskey was the best sounding room on the Strip in the 90's and early 2000's, IMO, but none were as good as FM Station or The Country Club over the hill in the Valley. Sadly, both clubs shut down years and years ago.

OK on the acoustics but that doesn't account for Axl being off key, off beat and his inability to hit the notes. However, I know it will sound great at Coachella. That Main Stage sound system is amazing. Huge sound, crisp sound. Boom.

chiefscafan
04-02-2016, 02:38 PM
I'm going to see them April 8th Friday in Vegas I hope they sound good!

DaNewGuy
04-02-2016, 02:41 PM
I haven't really read much in here so I apologize if this has a been answered? No Duff I'm assuming? Whose playing bass for them?

BigRedChief
04-02-2016, 02:45 PM
Got in on a pre-sale today for the Guns show at Arrowhead. 2 Floor tickets (section J) in the back was going to cost $350.10 plus a $27.00 Parking pass. Up front floor and lower levels (section 103 for example) were $250 a ticket plus Ticket master fees. Club level 240 2 tickets $242 with fees. Couldn't bring myself to spend that much.ROFL
Front row center. $10.00 for Ozzy and Judas Priest in their prime.

The times they are a changing....

DaneMcCloud
04-02-2016, 03:05 PM
I haven't really read much in here so I apologize if this has a been answered? No Duff I'm assuming? Whose playing bass for them?

Duff

DaneMcCloud
04-02-2016, 03:06 PM
OK on the acoustics but that doesn't account for Axl being off key, off beat and his inability to hit the notes. However, I know it will sound great at Coachella. That Main Stage sound system is amazing. Huge sound, crisp sound. Boom.

Cell phone audio is a strange thing. I heard a clip on TMZ that sounded pretty good.

Unfortunately, as far as I know, none of my friends attended the show, so it's just speculation as to how good or bad they sounded.

Edit: Oh, wait. One of my Amp Guru friends was at the show, as he does Richard's amps (Voodoo Amps).

I'll check with him but I'm sure he's not too objective. :D

Double Edit: He's wasn't there. Someone just took pics of Richard's rig and the stage before the show started.

DaNewGuy
04-02-2016, 04:49 PM
Duff

Oh shit... Well that's cool when I was playing bass growing up he was one of my favorites