Sources: Rams and Chargers relocation agreement could be reached Tuesday

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sounds like there will be an announcement tonight.

70 years to the day that the Rams were moved from Cleveland to LA.

[oaklandhater]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash">#Rams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash">#Chargers</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash">#Raiders</a> owners and commissioner leave meeting room. Awaiting decision.</p>&mdash; Fred Roggin (@FredNBCLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/FredNBCLA/status/687061773141196800">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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we are about to know for sure what is going to go down.

[ModSocks]

Well Dean is saying Dean is the victim. And if I'm Spanos, I absolutely sell that.

But Spanos balked at even getting the vote. Nothing stopped him from pursuing both routes.

He didn't want to foot any of the bill so he flat out gave SD the bird. If he were actually interested in making it work, he'd have followed both courses. The relocation paperwork could've still been filed had the December vote not gone as planned. Just exactly what the hell else do Dean and his lawyers have to do in that time period?

Spanos has an easy scapegoat, but it doesn't take much critical thinking to see that he's trying to pass the buck because he simply didn't like the deal he was offered.

Oh of course.

But it doesn't change the fact that our Mayor was dragging his feet on this. The Mayor could've gone the citizens initiative route and we wouldn't even need a vote. On top of the fact that he wasted 3 months with this ridiculous "Task Force" that ended up being completely useless.

[oaklandhater]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash">#Rams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash">#Raiders</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash">#Chargers</a> everyone going back in.. Final vote coming. Looks like Rams and Chargers.</p>&mdash; Fred Roggin (@FredNBCLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/FredNBCLA/status/687062587041697793">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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final vote coming up looks like ram's and chargers.

[ModSocks]

Kronke has even a harder time but Oakland screwed the Davis family over very few fan's in oakland take the cities side the Warriors are leaving the A's want out and so do the raiders there is a reason for that.

I thought the A's were getting a new stadium? No?

[oaklandhater]

I thought the A's were getting a new stadium? No?

They were suppose to get one in San Jose but the giants are fighting em on it.

[oaklandhater]

if the Raiders go to san antonio oak will have lost all 3 of there teams in less then 5 years has that ever happened before ?

[DJ's left nut]

if the Raiders go to san antonio oak will have lost all 3 of there teams in less then 5 years has that ever happened before ?

This is some Reagan beating the Soviets shit right here....

Clark just hung around long enough for economic chaos to cause the Raiders to collapse from the inside...

[oaklandhater]

This is some Reagan beating the Soviets shit right here....

Clark just hung around long enough for economic chaos to cause the Raiders to collapse from the inside...

And that is why the owners would love for Mark to sell the team he is poor as hell.

[ModSocks]

And that is why the owners would love for Mark to sell the team he is poor as hell.

To my understanding, the issue isn't that Mark is "poor as hell", but the fact that it's his mother that ACTUALLY owns the team, and when she passes, an estate Tax will be due. The topic of selling the team seems to be centered around whether or not Mark can pay for an Estate Tax that'll be in the hundreds of millions.

[OnTheWarpath15]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told <a href="https://twitter.com/STLouisRams">@STLouisRams</a> players were just texted by the team to be prepared for news tonight from NFL owners meeting in Houston re: team move</p>&mdash; Alex Marvez (@alexmarvez) <a href="https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/687065337947385856">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[eDave]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told <a href="https://twitter.com/STLouisRams">@STLouisRams</a> players were just texted by the team to be prepared for news tonight from NFL owners meeting in Houston re: team move</p>&mdash; Alex Marvez (@alexmarvez) <a href="https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/687065337947385856">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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At least the players can now live in a decent city.

[oaklandhater]

To my understanding, the issue isn't that Mark is "poor as hell", but the fact that it's his mother that ACTUALLY owns the team, and when she passes, an estate Tax will be due. The topic of selling the team seems to be centered around whether or not Mark can pay for an Estate Tax that'll be in the hundreds of millions.

I don't see how he could pay the estate tax his only income is the raiders.

[oaklandhater]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jerry Jones pops in the lobby, jumps back in elevator when cameras pop. Are you finished? &quot;No we&#39;re not.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/687065228069044224">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Lmao Jerry Jones

[Deberg_1990]

Never been to Oakland but is it as dumpy as the perception?

How have they been able to survive up to this point if there is not a lot of money or big business there ?

Or do they draw from the entire northern Cali and San Francisco area?

[Kiimo]

did I read that correct that they paused for 45 minutes for a pee break? Seriously?


I mean...obligatory prostate joke here.

[oaklandhater]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash">#Rams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash">#Chargers</a>. Waiting for official vote.. and they&#39;ll have it after Jerry Jones, Tom Benson, Paul Allen and Jeff Lurie finish eating.</p>&mdash; Fred Roggin (@FredNBCLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/FredNBCLA/status/687067512186355712">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[mlyonsd]

If it's Rams/Chargers no realignment. Makes sense unless you're a fan.

[Kiimo]

Rams in Iglewood is the best thing for Los Angeles imo.

[oaklandhater]

Never been to Oakland but is it as dumpy as the perception?

How have they been able to survive up to this point if there is not a lot of money or big business there ?

Or do they draw from the entire northern Cali and San Francisco area?

oakland draws from alameda county

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sports-nfl-relocation-insight-idUSKCN0UQ2DX20160112

“You saw real issues with taxpayers piling money into stadiums for billionaire owners while simultaneously laying off teachers, firefighters, and police officers,”

Pretty good article about how broke and mismanage my city is.

[oaklandhater]

If it's Rams/Chargers no realignment. Makes sense unless you're a fan.

doesn't make sense if your Mark Davis and your city only offered 90m to get you to stay.

[Ming the Merciless]

Never been to Oakland but is it as dumpy as the perception?

How have they been able to survive up to this point if there is not a lot of money or big business there ?

Or do they draw from the entire northern Cali and San Francisco area?

Yes and no. There's a ton of rich people. There's also a ton of middle class. There's also a ton of poor....its a pretty crazy mix

Raiders fans come mainly from outside of Oakland, proper I would guess....there's a ton of suburban areas there....with money...and there's also a ton of working class middle income areas all within a short distance.

[oaklandhater]

Yes and no. There's a ton of rich people. There's also a ton of middle class. There's also a ton of poor....its a pretty crazy mix

Raiders fans come mainly from outside of Oakland, proper I would guess....there's a ton of suburban areas there....with money...and there's also a ton of working class middle income areas all within a short distance.

The city sucks so much at balancing there books Crime is going up and the mayor tried to offer a crap deal to the raiders to stay after letting off a bunch of cops from the police force

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/oakland-raiders-los-angeles-relocation-vote-stadium-coliseum-011016

[Jerm]

Wonder if the Raiders will talk up San Antonio again now....

[MahiMike]

This is the most logical solution.

[the Talking Can]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s DONE. 30 yes, 2 no.</p>&mdash; Sam Farmer (@LATimesfarmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/LATimesfarmer/status/687086011822641153">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Al Bundy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rams to LA, with Chargers getting first crack through Jan 16, 2017, then Raiders have preference, per sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/687084902601330689">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[wazu]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rams to LA, with Chargers getting first crack through Jan 16, 2017, then Raiders have preference, per sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/687084902601330689">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is about as good as I could have hoped for. Maybe San Diego will work something out in San Diego. Don't care what the Raiders do.

[BigRedChief]

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[The Franchise]

Damnt....get the Raiders out of here.

[ChiefsCountry]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking. <a href="https://t.co/PMwGg6bUlr">pic.twitter.com/PMwGg6bUlr</a></p>&mdash; Matt Sebek (@MattSebek) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattSebek/status/687086398885597184">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[KChiefs1]

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[MMXcalibur]

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[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash">#Rams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash">#Raiders</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash">#Chargers</a> everyone going back in.. Final vote coming. Looks like Rams and Chargers.</p>— Fred Roggin (@FredNBCLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/FredNBCLA/status/687062587041697793">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>

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final vote coming up looks like ram's and chargers.


That will keep the AFC West intact.

[Al Bundy]

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Is that big dirt pit along the 405 where the stadium is being built?

[KChiefs1]

NFLN has it live now.

[KChiefs1]

Is that big dirt pit along the 405 where the stadium is being built?


That's the Carson location.

[KChiefs1]

Sounds like there will be an announcement tonight.

70 years to the day that the Rams were moved from Cleveland to LA.


NFLN now.

[JoeyChuckles]

So we own the Governor's cup forever?

[ChiefsCountry]

Damn the FOX reporter from St. Louis just ripped Kroenke. That was an awkward press conference.

[displacedinMN]

Where does OAK move to if they don't want to be in Oakland.


San Antonio?

[oaklandhater]

Where does OAK move to if they don't want to be in Oakland.


San Antonio?

I think part of getting the 200 million the nfl is ponying up is they have to stay in oakland.

[displacedinMN]

Maybe they become nomads and play in a different city every week.

There is NO city other than Las Vegas or San Antonio that could support an NFL franchise.

Maybe London.

[DaneMcCloud]

Maybe they become nomads and play in a different city every week.

There is NO city other than Las Vegas or San Antonio that could support an NFL franchise.

Maybe London.

Nope.

Portland, Sacramento and Salt Lake are just a few.

[New World Order]

Maybe they become nomads and play in a different city every week.

There is NO city other than Las Vegas or San Antonio that could support an NFL franchise.

Maybe London.



Haha yes. Send the Raiders to London!

[Al Bundy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mark Davis won&#39;t be in LA next season. He made ZERO commitment to playing in Oakland next year either. &quot;We don&#39;t have a lease anywhere&quot;</p>&mdash; Scott Bair (@BairCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/BairCSN/status/687099445834457088">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[KChiefs1]

Where does OAK move to if they don't want to be in Oakland.


San Antonio?


St Louis?

[displacedinMN]

Raiders to Mexico City?

[Rams Fan]

I'll go on a long rant shortly.

[New World Order]

Rams fans are outraged (all 3 of them).

[OnTheWarpath15]

I do find it funny that STL was perfectly fine with the Rams leaving LA, but are pissy about them leaving.

They're bitching about the same process that landed them the Rams to begin with.

[SAUTO]

It's not a done deal. The owners still need to vote.

But if they vote against him, he should tell them to fuck off, build the stadium and move his team

Let the NFL fight him in court (ha ha ha ha). that is exactly what will happen









Imo at least ROFL

[Rams Fan]

I don't have a lot to say. On one hand, I'm happy that a person who doesn't give a shit about St. Louis or his fanbase is gone and the city won't be completely fucked by millions of dollars. On the other, I feel heartbroken. I can't describe the words exactly.

When a city proposes a plan to invest $400 mil. in a stadium and two cities, one of which isn't making a financial commitment to keeping a team(Oakland) and another hasn't secured public financing(San Diego) get rewarded, I'm pissed. The NFL just cares about its bottom line.

Fuck Kevin Demoff for lying to the fans' faces.

And most of all, fuck you Stan Kroenke. Fuck your mustache. Fuck you for being a so called "true son". Enjoy LA. I hope Arsenal, the Avalanche, the Rams, and the Colorado Rapids all finish last. And I hope every single team finishes "below average" in attendance and you use the bullshit excuse (for the Avalanche and Nuggets) for Denver being a football town and use the excuse for LA (for the Rams) of LA being a NBA/MLB town.

[KChiefs1]

I do find it funny that STL was perfectly fine with the Rams leaving LA, but are pissy about them leaving.

They're bitching about the same process that landed them the Rams to begin with.


Karma

[Baby Lee]

I do find it funny that STL was perfectly fine with the Rams leaving LA, but are pissy about them leaving.

They're bitching about the same process that landed them the Rams to begin with.

StL was coming off the double stings of ubershit owner Bidwell pulling a Colts' midnight move and getting a huge snub in the expansion process with the Stallions.

And at the time of the move, there may have been pockets of diehard fan pain, but the city of LA was largely 'meh, when do the Lakers start up again?'

[Rams Fan]

I do find it funny that STL was perfectly fine with the Rams leaving LA, but are pissy about them leaving.

They're bitching about the same process that landed them the Rams to begin with.

It sucks either way.

Happy for people in LA.

I feel like shit.

**** the NFL.

StL was coming off the double stings of ubershit owner Bidwell pulling a Colts' midnight move and getting a huge snub in the expansion process with the Stallions.

And at the time of the moves, there may have been pockets of diehard fan pain, but the city of LA was largely 'when does the NBA start up again?'

Well that. And that the city built a 100% publicly funded stadium within the past 20 years. And dedicated $400 mil. in public money to build another stadium. And the NFL still gave STL the middle finger.

[vailpass]

I don't have a lot to say. On one hand, I'm happy that a person who doesn't give a shit about St. Louis or his fanbase is gone and the city won't be completely ****ed by millions of dollars. On the other, I feel heartbroken. I can't describe the words exactly.

When a city proposes a plan to invest $400 mil. in a stadium and two cities, one of which isn't making a financial commitment to keeping a team(Oakland) and another hasn't secured public financing(San Diego) get rewarded, I'm pissed. The NFL just cares about its bottom line.

**** Kevin Demoff for lying to the fans' faces.

And most of all, **** you Stan Kroenke. **** your mustache. **** you for being a so called "true son". Enjoy LA. I hope Arsenal, the Avalanche, the Rams, and the Colorado Rapids all finish last. And I hope every single team finishes "below average" in attendance and you use the bullshit excuse (for the Avalanche and Nuggets) for Denver being a football town and use the excuse for LA (for the Rams) of LA being a NBA/MLB town.

I feel for you man. Sincerely. I can't imagine.

[displacedinMN]

^ Welcome to the band wagon

[Rams Fan]

I guess I need a name change.

[Discuss Thrower]

I guess I need a name change.

You wanna join with what will likely be 25-40% of football fans in STL who are about to be big fans of the Pack or..

[Rams Fan]

I feel for you man. Sincerely. I can't imagine.

Thanks. It stinks. Long run, this is the best move for the NFL. But as someone who is a STL resident and was a Rams fan, it hurts. Badly.

[vailpass]

I guess I need a name change.

Caitlyn?

[ChiefsCountry]

I guess I need a name change.

Hop on board man. You are a Blues fan, you will fit right in with the Chiefs. They are pretty much the same team.

[Rams Fan]

Caitlyn?
LMAO

Hop on board man. You are a Blues fan, you will fit right in with the Chiefs. They are pretty much the same team.

Nah, man. I need sometime away from the NFL at the very least. It's hard to support a product that doesn't give a shit about you.

The DeWitts give a shit about St. Louis. Tom Stillman is amazing but unfortunately hasn't as much success as the DeWitts(yet). Kroenke and the NFL don't care, however. Not one iota.

[Rams Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Humbly, eternally gratefully: Thank you St. Louis. I&#39;m sorry we fell short the past 8 years. You treated me like family anyways. I love yall</p>&mdash; Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) <a href="https://twitter.com/JOEL9ONE/status/687096309807996928">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Ok, I'm actually crying now.

[DaneMcCloud]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Humbly, eternally gratefully: Thank you St. Louis. I&#39;m sorry we fell short the past 8 years. You treated me like family anyways. I love yall</p>&mdash; Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) <a href="https://twitter.com/JOEL9ONE/status/687096309807996928">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Ok, I'm actually crying now.
You might wanna get that checked

[Rams Fan]

You might wanna get that checked

I probably do.

But honestly, if this is the worst shit I'm going through, I'm fine with that.

I've lost 20 pounds within the past 5 months and couldn't be feeling better physically. Health is fine(knock of wood).

And I feel, mentally, I'm in a good place. I haven't cried in awhile. Just hurts that the sport I loved and played is gone (at the highest level) now.

[Bugeater]

Raiders to Mexico City?
This is a solid idea. They can play in that baseball stadium with the Neckcar track that goes through it.

[suzzer99]

I'm going to earnestly try to become a Rams fan. Chiefs always come first of course. Fuck the Chargers.

[Spott]

I probably do.

But honestly, if this is the worst shit I'm going through, I'm fine with that.

I've lost 20 pounds within the past 5 months and couldn't be feeling better physically. Health is fine(knock of wood).

And I feel, mentally, I'm in a good place. I haven't cried in awhile. Just hurts that the sport I loved and played is gone (at the highest level) now.

I haven't lived in KC in 16 years, but I'd be pissed off to no end if they packed up and left town. Although you could look for another team to follow and the Chiefs are just a few hours up the road from you, it will take a while to get that same enthusiasm for another franchise.

[Brock]

I probably do.

But honestly, if this is the worst shit I'm going through, I'm fine with that.

I've lost 20 pounds within the past 5 months and couldn't be feeling better physically. Health is fine(knock of wood).

And I feel, mentally, I'm in a good place. I haven't cried in awhile. Just hurts that the sport I loved and played is gone (at the highest level) now.

Just join with us. It's perfect timing.

[wazu]

I probably do.

But honestly, if this is the worst shit I'm going through, I'm fine with that.

I've lost 20 pounds within the past 5 months and couldn't be feeling better physically. Health is fine(knock of wood).

And I feel, mentally, I'm in a good place. I haven't cried in awhile. Just hurts that the sport I loved and played is gone (at the highest level) now.

Respect, man. What happened to St. Louis is wrong. I can't imagine how anybody in L.A. is seeing the Rams come back and thinking they actually want to invest their heart in that shitty franchise.

[Rams Fan]

Respect, man. What happened to St. Louis is wrong. I can't imagine how anybody in L.A. is seeing the Rams come back and thinking they actually want to invest their heart in that shitty franchise.

I don't fault people in LA for supporting the Rams. Hell, if I was in LA, I'd be ecstatic.

But just let it be known that St. Louis didn't fail the Rams.

[O.city]

I guess I'm out of the loop and haven't really followed this, but how did the Rams and Kroenke shit on stl?

[scho63]

On a positive note, the Chiefs will now gobble up all the new young fans from St Louis to help grow their base.

[wazu]

I don't fault people in LA for supporting the Rams. Hell, if I was in LA, I'd be ecstatic.

But just let it be known that St. Louis didn't fail the Rams.

Remember, though - they already Broke L.A.'s hearts once. Their owner is the embodiment of pure evil. If I'm in L.A., why would I choose to be passionate about this team?

[Rams Fan]

I guess I'm out of the loop and haven't really followed this, but how did the Rams and Kroenke shit on stl?

-Kroenke didn't say shit to the public for over 4 years and hadn't been involved in the community what so ever.
-Only negotiated the bare minimum through arbitration in which the city would have had to pay $700 mil. to renovate the Dome to keep the Rams in town for 10 more years guaranteed.
-The Rams COO denied well over a year ago that the Inglewood site would be a potential site for a Rams stadium on St. Louis radio.
-The Rams sent a 29 page proposal to relocate to LA that included bashing the city of St. Louis. And the fans for not supporting the team.
-Didn't talk with the governor until like November or December of 2015.
-Never spoke to the mayor.

[suzzer99]

Well you guys will always have the Cardinals. They had the best record in baseball last year and made the playoffs - that's pretty good!

[Rams Fan]

Well you guys will always have the Cardinals. They had the best record in baseball last year and made the playoffs - that's pretty good!

Honestly, if STL got a NBA team, that would help me feel better just a bit.

We can support three teams.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Kroenke is an absolute Scum human being Rams fan. No use feeling down on another decision based on pure greed by another scourge of society.

[Rams Fan]

Kroenke is an absolute Scum human being Rams fan. No use feeling down on another decision based on pure greed by another scourge of society.

I've come to that the realization.

[Baby Lee]

I guess I'm out of the loop and haven't really followed this, but how did the Rams and Kroenke shit on stl?

In making their case for moving, Kronke cataloged in writing all the 'failings' of StL as a market. Talked about how, despite the Rams investing in players and personnel, the city gave them a shitty new stadium, and the stupid citizens wouldn't buy enough tickets or merchandise.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

LA gets a team and it's led by...Case Keenum ROFL

[Baby Lee]

LA gets a team and it's led by...Case Keenum ROFL

They'll probably waste Gurley like they did Dickerson.

Seriously, 7K-something rushing in 5 seasons and not so much as a blip on the radar among real NFL performers.

Did he ever even play a playoff game?

[J Diddy]

Honestly, if STL got a NBA team, that would help me feel better just a bit.

We can support three teams.

St. Louis Beavers?

[O.city]

-Kroenke didn't say shit to the public for over 4 years and hadn't been involved in the community what so ever.
-Only negotiated the bare minimum through arbitration in which the city would have had to pay $700 mil. to renovate the Dome to keep the Rams in town for 10 more years guaranteed.
-The Rams COO denied well over a year ago that the Inglewood site would be a potential site for a Rams stadium on St. Louis radio.
-The Rams sent a 29 page proposal to relocate to LA that included bashing the city of St. Louis. And the fans for not supporting the team.
-Didn't talk with the governor until like November or December of 2015.
-Never spoke to the mayor.

Gotcha thanks.

So he wanted out of stl and could basically buy his way out it sounds like.

[Rams Fan]

Gotcha thanks.

So he wanted out of stl and could basically buy his way out it sounds like.

Pretty much. He's one of the 5 richest owners in the NFL. If, say, Mike Brown(owner of the Bengals) owned the Rams and wanted to relocate, it wouldn't happen. He doesn't have the $$$. Kroenke does and that's why the Rams are going to LA as the stadium is 100% privately financed.

[PutQuinnIn]

They'll probably waste Gurley like they did Dickerson.

Seriously, 7K-something rushing in 5 seasons and not so much as a blip on the radar among real NFL performers.

Did he ever even play a playoff game?

2-5
724 yards rushing

[KChiefs1]

On a positive note, the Chiefs will now gobble up all the new young fans from St Louis to help grow their base.


If they keep winning.

[ChiefsCountry]

Chiefs have been inching towards eastern Missouri this past couple of years for the fan base. Radio stations in the Bootheel and in the western suburbs of St. Louis carry Chiefs games. Be interesting if the Chiefs try to set up a tv station in St. Louis for the preseason games and if they get a radio station to carry the games.

[Rausch]

If they keep winning.

Even if they don't.

The Titans suck and STL isn't cheering for Chicago...

[KChiefs1]

Chiefs have been inching towards eastern Missouri this past couple of years for the fan base. Radio stations in the Bootheel and in the western suburbs of St. Louis carry Chiefs games. Be interesting if the Chiefs try to set up a tv station in St. Louis for the preseason games and if they get a radio station to carry the games.


I bet they do.

[ChiefsCountry]

I bet they do.

On the bright side (sorry Rams Fan), we don't have to worry about the Chiefs getting bumped off tv around here anymore.

[Rausch]

On the bright side (sorry Rams Fan), we don't have to worry about the Chiefs getting bumped off tv around here anymore.

You really don't know how much my locals suck around here.

My locals once bumped a winning Chiefs team for the Bass Pro International Fishing tournament...

[DaneMcCloud]

You really don't know how much my locals suck around here.

My locals once bumped a winning Chiefs team for the Bass Pro International Fishing tournament...

Holy crap, I can't even imagine.

I don't like it when the Chiefs are on the national CBS feed and get bumped back to Direct TV when they're up 34-3 or whatever and it takes 3 minutes for it switch over.

That's some bullshit.

[ChiefsCountry]

You really don't know how much my locals suck around here.

My locals once bumped a winning Chiefs team for the Bass Pro International Fishing tournament...

I get the same locals you do. Columbia-Jeff City ones. I can hook up the antenna and get Springfield if need to though.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

-Kroenke didn't say shit to the public for over 4 years and hadn't been involved in the community what so ever.
-Only negotiated the bare minimum through arbitration in which the city would have had to pay $700 mil. to renovate the Dome to keep the Rams in town for 10 more years guaranteed.
-The Rams COO denied well over a year ago that the Inglewood site would be a potential site for a Rams stadium on St. Louis radio.
-The Rams sent a 29 page proposal to relocate to LA that included bashing the city of St. Louis. And the fans for not supporting the team.
-Didn't talk with the governor until like November or December of 2015.
-Never spoke to the mayor.

Don't forget that he lied about some shit. For instance, the not supporting the team line. 86% attendance in it's 11th consecutive losing season? That's not fucking bad if you ask me. I've read up on this further, and I'm actually a little shocked. My initial feelings were that it was really LA's team in the first place, but what a fucking scum bag Kroenke is.

[rico]

You really don't know how much my locals suck around here.

My locals once bumped a winning Chiefs team for the Bass Pro International Fishing tournament...

I REALLY hate it when the Chiefs get bumped for NASCAR.

[DJ's left nut]

I get the same locals you do. Columbia-Jeff City ones. I can hook up the antenna and get Springfield if need to though.

Columbia locals haven't bumped a Chiefs game in like 5 years.

Maybe I've missed it when they've bumped some home games here and there, but I've not had to head to the bars for a Chiefs away game in a very long time.

[Eleazar]

Don't forget that he lied about some shit. For instance, the not supporting the team line. 86% attendance in it's 11th consecutive losing season? That's not fucking bad if you ask me. I've read up on this further, and I'm actually a little shocked. My initial feelings were that it was really LA's team in the first place, but what a fucking scum bag Kroenke is.

86% my ass... On tv it looks closer to 86% empty

[DJ's left nut]

86% my ass... On tv it looks closer to 86% empty

A friend of mine is a STH holder for the Rams.

He says the place is generally about 40% full and a few games were worse than that.

Rams fans can say they didn't turn out because Stan failed them, but they damn sure can't say they actually turned out. The fan support in STL had dried up.

[Eleazar]

A friend of mine is a STH holder for the Rams.

He says the place is generally about 40% full and a few games were worse than that.

Rams fans can say they didn't turn out because Stan failed them, but they damn sure can't say they actually turned out. The fan support in STL had dried up.

I don't blame them for not showing up when their owner has been trying to move the team for several years now, but you can't argue that they are still showing up. The 'tickets sold' numbers can be inflated and manipulated a thousand ways (and they can still only claim 86%). But the main barometer of fan engagement is still going to be how many seats are filled on Sundays

[Rams Fan]

Don't forget that he lied about some shit. For instance, the not supporting the team line. 86% attendance in it's 11th consecutive losing season? That's not ****ing bad if you ask me. I've read up on this further, and I'm actually a little shocked. My initial feelings were that it was really LA's team in the first place, but what a ****ing scum bag Kroenke is.

What was said in the proposal was to the extent that the attendance was below average even though the win percentage under Kroenke as majority owner increased by 52% compared a certain amount of seasons prior to him becoming majority owner.

Which still dodges the whole fact that team only won 38% of its games with him as majority owner.

[DaneMcCloud]

What was said in the proposal was to the extent that the attendance was below average even though the win percentage under Kroenke as majority owner increased by 52% compared a certain amount of seasons prior to him becoming majority owner.

Which still dodges the whole fact that team only won 38% of its games with him as majority owner.

It's the same shit Georgia pulled in Anaheim in order to get out of her stadium lease.

The fact of the matter is that the Rams should have never left Los Angeles and St. Louis should have been given an expansion franchise that instead went to Jacksonville.

[DJ's left nut]

It's the same shit Georgia pulled in Anaheim in order to get out of her stadium lease.

The fact of the matter is that the Rams should have never left Los Angeles and St. Louis should have been given an expansion franchise that instead went to Jacksonville.

St. Louis should never have lost the Cardinals to begin with and the expansion franchise should've gone to Arizona.

[Rams Fan]

Also, I think St. Louis can be a 3 sport town.

I don't see the NFL coming back to St. Louis, if ever.

The NBA coming here would be interesting, but I don't see that happening unless the Blues ownership went in with someone to bring a team here. And quite frankly, that could fuck up the Blues being in STL long term.

[DaneMcCloud]

St. Louis should never have lost the Cardinals to begin with and the expansion franchise should've gone to Arizona.

The NFL wasn't in an expansion phase when the Cards left for Arizona.

St. Louis was all set to get an expansion team in 1994 until the ownership group collapsed.

[DJ's left nut]

The NFL wasn't in an expansion phase when the Cards left for Arizona.

St. Louis was all set to get an expansion team in 1994 until the ownership group collapsed.

No but Arizona was ticketed for the next expansion team at the time.

Had St. Louis ponied up for the stadium they eventually build in 1987, the Cardinals never go anywhere and Arizona getting an expansion team is a slam dunk.

[Rams Fan]

It's the same shit Georgia pulled in Anaheim in order to get out of her stadium lease.

The fact of the matter is that the Rams should have never left Los Angeles and St. Louis should have been given an expansion franchise that instead went to Jacksonville.

Not disagreeing.

[DaneMcCloud]

No but Arizona was ticketed for the next expansion team at the time.

Had St. Louis ponied up for the stadium they eventually build in 1987, the Cardinals never go anywhere and Arizona getting an expansion team is a slam dunk.

Interesting. I've never heard that story before.

The oddest thing to me about the then Phoenix Cardinals is why they didn't change the name. Arizona Cardinals is better because it's more inclusive but IMO, the history should have remained in St. Louis, just as it did in Cleveland.

[Rams Fan]

Interesting. I've never heard that story before.

The oddest thing to me about the then Phoenix Cardinals is why they didn't change the name. Arizona Cardinals is better because it's more inclusive but IMO, the history should have remained in St. Louis, just as it did in Cleveland.

Because the team didn't originate in St. Louis. Just like the Rams didn't originate in LA.

St. Louis pretty much just got Modell'd.

[The Franchise]

#Ramsfansmatter

[Baby Lee]

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[ChiefsCountry]

Interesting. I've never heard that story before.

The oddest thing to me about the then Phoenix Cardinals is why they didn't change the name. Arizona Cardinals is better because it's more inclusive but IMO, the history should have remained in St. Louis, just as it did in Cleveland.

Phoenix was the #1 expansion choice for the NFL when the Cardinals moved there.

[Rams Fan]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">STL will go on. &quot;Kroenke Sucks!&quot; chants at the <a href="https://twitter.com/StLouisBlues">@StLouisBlues</a> game tonight. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TeamSTL?src=hash">#TeamSTL</a> <a href="https://t.co/Sx79unGT2x">pic.twitter.com/Sx79unGT2x</a></p>&mdash; Brian King (@kingbrian_) <a href="https://twitter.com/kingbrian_/status/687139607687729152">January 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[kcfanXIII]

It sucks for Rams fans, but I'm glad the whole state isn't footing the bill for a new stadium down there. That was my big complaint. Nixon, being a rams fan, was all about getting the entire state to fund a new stadium, and I don't remember that kind of support when KC decided we needed to upgrade our facilities.

[ChiefsCountry]

Interesting. I've never heard that story before.

The oddest thing to me about the then Phoenix Cardinals is why they didn't change the name. Arizona Cardinals is better because it's more inclusive but IMO, the history should have remained in St. Louis, just as it did in Cleveland.

Here you go Dane.
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/03/16/sports/nfl-approves-team-shift.html
And the league would have preferred the Cardinals shifting to Baltimore. That would have left Phoenix open for an expansion team, which would have paid the league a $60 million indemnity.

[DaneMcCloud]

Here you go Dane.
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/03/16/sports/nfl-approves-team-shift.html

Wow, interesting. I remember when the Cardinals moved but I don't recall any of the expansion chatter.

Thanks!

[The Franchise]

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[DaneMcCloud]

That's what happens when you have two broke ass owners that don't want to pay for anything themselves.

Mark Davis and the Spanos family need to face facts: They are no longer wealthy enough to own NFL franchises in California.

[PunkinDrublic]

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Raiders fans aren't happy because raiders fans are losers who suck at life.

[Raiderhater]

Raiders fans aren't happy because raiders fans are losers who suck at life.

This.

[Mr. Laz]

This increases the total teams in California instead of just moving the Chargers/Faiders around inside California.

Fucking west coast