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Wilson8
01-25-2016, 06:32 AM
Practice and game this week.

MOBILE, Ala. (Jan. 19) -- For the first time in a decade, ESPN will televise Reese’s Senior Bowl practices. The network will broadcast both the North and South practices live from Ladd-Peebles Stadium on Wednesday and Thursday on ESPNU.

Chris Cotter will host the network’s two-hour shows and will be joined by analysts Bill Polian, Louis Riddick and Todd McShay. Quint Kessenich will provide sideline coverage for ESPN’s eight hours of live programming.

As an organization, we are so pleased to have ESPN and ESPNU on board with us this year,” Savage said. “With wall-to-wall coverage on ESPNU, the Reese's Senior Bowl will expand its media footprint to a wider audience and provide even more national exposure to our players.”

The network also plans to provide live reports during its flagship show, ‘SportsCenter,’ as well as its NFL-featured shows, ‘NFL Insiders’ and ‘NFL Live.’ ESPN last televised practices at the Reese’s Senior Bowl in 2006.

NFL Network will also broadcast from Reese’s Senior Bowl practices and will air its coverage in three one-hour primetime shows on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

It will also broadcast the game live for the 10th consecutive year.
The 67th Reese’s Senior Bowl is scheduled for January 30 at Ladd-Peebles Stadium in Mobile. Kickoff is at 1:30p.m. CT

Wilson8
01-25-2016, 06:35 AM
North Team

• 1 Braxton Miller WR 6-2 215 Ohio State Big Ten
• 4 Darian Thompson S 6-2 212 Boise State MW
• 6 Cody Kessler QB 6-1 215 USC Pac-12
• 7 Tyler Ervin RB 5-10 177 San Jose State MW
• 8 Kevin Hogan QB 6-4 218 Stanford Pac-12
• 11 Carson Wentz QB 6-6 235 North Dakota State FCS
• 15 Ka'imi Fairbairn PK 6-0 190 UCLA Pac-12
• 16 Jeff Driskel QB 6-4 234 Louisiana Tech C-USA
• 17 Jihad Ward DE 6-6 295 Illinois Big Ten
• 19 Jordan Payton WR 6-1 212 UCLA Pac-12
• 20 Deiondre' Hall DC 6-2 190 Northern Iowa FCS
• 21 Tavon Young DC 5-10 181 Temple AAC
• 22 Riley Dixon PT 6-5 219 Syracuse ACC
• 23 Tyvis Powell S 6-3 210 Ohio State Big Ten
• 24 Kevin Peterson DC 5-11 190 Oklahoma State Big 12
• 25 Miles Killebrew S 6-3 230 Southern Utah FCS
• 26 Maurice Canady DC 6-2 195 Virginia ACC
• 27 Chris Swain RB 6-1 245 Navy AAC
• 28 Kenneth Dixon RB 5-10 212 Louisiana Tech C-USA
• 29 K.J. Dillon S 6-1 203 West Virginia Big 12
• 31 Eric Murray DC 6-0 199 Minnesota Big Ten
• 33 Soma Vainuku FB 6-0 255 USC Pac-12
• 35 Nick Kwiatkoski ILB 6-2 235 West Virginia Big 12
• 37 Joshua Perry OLB 6-4 254 Ohio State Big Ten
• 41 Jared Norris ILB 6-2 240 Utah Pac-12
• 44 Blake Martinez ILB 6-2 245 Stanford Pac-12
• 48 Tyler Matakevich ILB 6-1 232 Temple AAC
• 49 Kyler Fackrell OLB 6-5 250 Utah State MW
• 51 Josh Garnett OG 6-5 321 Stanford Pac-12
• 56 Joe Dahl OG 6-5 310 Washington State Pac-12
• 58 Joe Schobert OLB 6-2 236 Wisconsin Big Ten
• 59 Joe Haeg OT 6-6 310 North Dakota State FCS
• 60 Jeff Overbaugh LS 6-2 240 San Diego State MW
• 63 Austin Blythe OC 6-3 290 Iowa Big Ten
• 66 Jack Allen OC 6-2 296 Michigan State Big Ten
• 70 Willie Beavers OG 6-5 309 Western Michigan MAC
• 71 Jason Fanaika DE 6-3 270 Utah Pac-12
• 72 Nick Martin OG 6-5 301 Notre Dame IND
• 77 Kyle Murphy OT 6-7 301 Stanford Pac-12
• 78 Jason Spriggs OT 6-7 305 Indiana Big Ten
• 79 Cole Toner OT 6-6 303 Harvard Ivy League
• 80 Bryce Williams TE 6-6 258 East Carolina AAC
• 81 Nick Vannett TE 6-6 260 Ohio State Big Ten
• 82 Henry Krieger-Coble TE 6'4 250 Iowa Big Ten
• 84 Leonte Carroo WR 6-1 215 Rutgers Big Ten
• 85 Chris Moore WR 6-2 190 Cincinnati AAC
• 86 Aaron Burbridge WR 6-1 208 Michigan State Big Ten
• 88 Tajae Sharpe WR 6-3 188 UMASS MAC
• 90 Matt Ioannidis DT 6-4 292 Temple AAC
• 91 Sheldon Day DT 6-2 285 Notre Dame IND
• 92 Adolphus Washington DT 6-4 290 Ohio State Big Ten
• 93 Vernon Butler DT 6-3 309 Louisiana Tech C-USA
• 95 Carl Nassib DE 6-7 272 Penn State Big Ten
• 98 Lawrence Thomas DE 6-4 305 Michigan State Big Ten
• 99 Austin Johnson DT 6-4 325 Penn State Big Ten

Wilson8
01-25-2016, 06:36 AM
South Team

• 0 Deion Jones ILB 6-1 227 LSU SEC
• 1 Harlan Miller DC 6-1 180 SE Louisiana FCS
• 3 Sterling Shepard WR 5-10 191 Oklahoma Big 12
• 4 Jay Lee WR 6-3 215 Baylor Big 12
• 5 Cyrus Jones DC 5-10 196 Alabama SEC
• 9 Charone Peake WR 6-2 205 Clemson ACC
• 10 Brandon Allen QB 6-2 210 Arkansas SEC
• 10 Kentrell Brothers ILB 6-1 235 Missouri SEC
• 12 Jacoby Brissett QB 6-4 235 North Carolina State ACC
• 14 Jake Coker QB 6-5 232 Alabama SEC
• 15 Dak Prescott QB 6-2 230 Mississippi State SEC
• 16 Jeremy Cash S 6-2 210 Duke ACC
• 17 Kenyan Drake RB 6-1 210 Alabama SEC
• 19 Reggie Ragland OLB 6-2 252 Alabama SEC
• 20 Kevin Byard S 5-11 217 Middle Tennessee C-USA
• 21 Sean Davis S 6-1 202 Maryland Big Ten
• 22 Aaron Green RB 5-11 205 TCU Big 12
• 23 Jonathan Jones DC 5-10 181 Auburn SEC
• 25 James Bradberry DC 6-1 213 Samford FCS
• 28 Jalen Mills DC 6-1 194 LSU SEC
• 31 DeAndre Washington RB 5'8 200 Texas Tech Big 12
• 32 Jonathan Williams RB 6-0 223 Arkansas SEC
• 33 Antonio Morrison ILB 6-1 230 Florida SEC
• 35 Ross Martin PK 5-10 185 Duke ACC
• 36 DeAndre Houston-Carson S 6-2 195 William & Mary FCS
• 38 Alex Kinal PT 6-4 205 Wake Forest ACC
• 40 Dan Vitale FB 6-2 235 Northwestern Big Ten
• 45 Josh Forrest ILB 6-2 250 Kentucky SEC
• 48 Glenn Gronkowski TE 6-3 234 Kansas State Big 12
• 49 Eric Striker OLB 6-0 223 Oklahoma Big 12
• 50 Jimmy Landes LS 6-2 250 Baylor Big 12
• 55 Cody Whitehair OG 6-4 305 Kansas State Big 12
• 58 Spencer Drango OT 6-6 310 Baylor Big 12
• 59 Jordan Jenkins OLB 6-3 253 Georgia SEC
• 60 Connor McGovern OG 6-4 300 Missouri SEC
• 61 Graham Glasgow OC 6-6 303 Michigan Big Ten
• 62 Le'Raven Clark OT 6-6 307 Texas Tech Big 12
• 65 Christian Westerman OG 6-4 300 Arizona State Pac-12
• 71 John Theus OT 6-6 303 Georgia SEC
• 73 Sebastian Tretola OG 6-4 330 Arkansas SEC
• 74 Vadal Alexander OT 6-6 329 LSU SEC
• 77 Evan Boehm OC 6-3 320 Missouri SEC
• 81 K.J. Maye WR 5'10 194 Minnesota Big Ten
• 83 Jake McGee TE 6-6 250 Florida SEC
• 86 Malcolm Mitchell WR 6-1 196 Georgia SEC
• 88 Paul McRoberts WR 6-3 197 Southeast Missouri State FCS
• 89 Jerell Adams TE 6-6 231 South Carolina SEC
• 90 Jarran Reed DE 6-4 313 Alabama SEC
• 91 Charles Tapper DE 6-4 283 Oklahoma Big 12
• 92 Shawn Oakman DE 6-9 275 Baylor Big 12
• 95 Bronson Kaufusi DE 6-7 265 Brigham Young IND
• 96 Dadi Nicolas DE 6-3 227 Virginia Tech ACC
• 97 Noah Spence DE 6-3 261 Eastern Kentucky FCS
• 98 Sheldon Rankins DE 6-2 303 Louisville ACC
• 99 Quinton Jefferson DT 6-3 289 Maryland Big Ten

DaKCMan AP
01-25-2016, 11:12 AM
1 Braxton Miller WR 6-2 215 Ohio State Big Ten
8 Kevin Hogan QB 6-4 218 Stanford Pac-12
11 Carson Wentz QB 6-6 235 North Dakota State FCS
31 Eric Murray DC 6-0 199 Minnesota Big Ten
92 Adolphus Washington DT 6-4 290 Ohio State Big Ten
33 Antonio Morrison ILB 6-1 230 Florida SEC
49 Eric Striker OLB 6-0 223 Oklahoma Big 12
59 Jordan Jenkins OLB 6-3 253 Georgia SEC
83 Jake McGee TE 6-6 250 Florida SEC
86 Malcolm Mitchell WR 6-1 196 Georgia SEC
90 Jarran Reed DE 6-4 313 Alabama SEC
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Urc Burry
01-25-2016, 11:13 AM
Big fan of Leonte Carroo

Saccopoo
01-25-2016, 11:47 AM
Keep an eye on Dak Prescott as well. Nobody is mentioning him around here but the guy was an absolute winner and put up some amazing numbers during his career at Mississippi State. Both running and throwing. (Tied Brady's Orange Bowl completion record and set the Orange Bowl passing yards record.)

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DaKCMan AP
01-25-2016, 01:45 PM
Keep an eye on Dak Prescott as well. Nobody is mentioning him around here but the guy was an absolute winner and put up some amazing numbers during his career at Mississippi State. Both running and throwing. (Tied Brady's Orange Bowl completion record and set the Orange Bowl passing yards record.)



A faster, less physical Tebow
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CleveSteve
01-25-2016, 02:09 PM
A faster, less physical Tebow
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:facepalm:

CleveSteve
01-25-2016, 02:10 PM
49 Eric Striker OLB 6-0 223 Oklahoma Big 12

Very excited to see what he can do in a 4-3. I could see him being a huge impact player on the level of Lavonte David or Thomas Davis if he can be kept clean.

CleveSteve
01-25-2016, 02:11 PM
BTW Noah Spence is the best pass rusher in the draft.

CleveSteve
01-25-2016, 02:20 PM
Oh and I bet Spriggs looks awesome in one-on-ones. He's got great athleticism for a LT. Probably most natural pass protector outside the big two.

Scooter LaCanforno
01-25-2016, 05:00 PM
Big fan of Leonte Carroo


Lots of talent here. Game changer. Let's see if he can get any right on the Wonderlic.

kccrow
01-25-2016, 05:22 PM
I love the rosters for this game, will be a must watch unlike the other bowls.

Here's some guys I'll be watching a little more intently than others:
Braxton Miller - how will he perform as a receiver outside of the OSU system
Jihad Ward, DE Illinois - interesting run stopper at DE with great size, want to see more of him against NFL calibur lineman
Jordan Payton, WR UCLA - can he get separation against NFL calibur DBs
Deiondre Hall, CB Northern Iowa - can he lock down NFL calibur receivers with huge jump in competition level
Kenneth Dixon, RB Louisiana Tech - great looking runner but can he do it at a higher level
Eric Murray, CB Minnesota - want to see if he can hold up against speedier NFL level receivers
Leonte Carroo, WR Rutgers - is he fast enough to get any separation and is he smart enough to learn a few NFL plays in a week
Nick Kwiatoski, ILB West Virginia - can he stop the run against NFL competition
Joe Haeg, OT North Dakota State - can he hold the edge against NFL level ends
Jason Spriggs, OT Indiana - how will he hold up against stronger NFL level ends
Matt Ioannidis, DT Temple - does he have the strength to get push against NFL calibur lineman
Aaron Burbridge, WR Michigan State - does he have the speed and agility to gain separation against NFL level DBs
Deion Jones, ILB LSU - can he leverage against the run versus NFL calibur blockers
Jake Coker, QB Alabama - can he make NFL throws and play outside of Alabama's system
Antonio Morrison, ILB Florida - can he make plays against the run against NFL blockers and does he have enough speed for coverage
Josh Forrest, ILB Kentucky - does he have the speed to play in the NFL and to cover TEs and RBs
Connor McGovern, OG Missouri - can he handle NFL speed and does he have the movement skills needed

RunKC
01-26-2016, 09:03 AM
Baby Gronk measures in at 6'2" 238 lbs

RunKC
01-26-2016, 09:09 AM
Quinton Jefferson 6'4" 289 lbs

This might be a good developmental guy for us. Had 21 TFL and 10.5 sacks including 6.5 sacks last year. needs to bulk up a bit though.

RunKC
01-26-2016, 09:35 AM
Kevin Hogan with 10 1/4 inch hands. Wow
Dak Prescott with 9 7/8

OldSchool
01-26-2016, 10:00 AM
Kevin Hogan with 10 1/4 inch hands. Wow
Dak Prescott with 9 7/8

Both backup material at best.

The Franchise
01-26-2016, 12:24 PM
Wentz - 6'5 and 233 lbs with 10 inch hands. He's going top 20.

RunKC
01-26-2016, 12:36 PM
Wentz - 6'5 and 233 lbs with 10 inch hands. He's going top 20.

Hell he might go top 10

The Franchise
01-26-2016, 12:42 PM
Hell he might go top 10

Rumor is that the Browns love him. Won't matter for shit if they start him right away. Jackson needs to draft him and sit him the 1st year. Let McCown fucking start and earn that contract. It's not like McCown was playing horribly last season.

CleveSteve
01-26-2016, 12:48 PM
Rumor is that the Browns love him. Won't matter for shit if they start him right away. Jackson needs to draft him and sit him the 1st year. Let McCown ****ing start and earn that contract. It's not like McCown was playing horribly last season.

Drafting Wentz at #2 would be a very brown thing to do.

Hue does have a thing for redheads, though.

The Franchise
01-26-2016, 12:59 PM
Drafting Wentz at #2 would be a very brown thing to do.

Hue does have a thing for redheads, though.

They could always trade down.

CleveSteve
01-26-2016, 01:03 PM
Clarification: Drafting Wentz would be a very Brown thing to do.

RunKC
01-26-2016, 01:06 PM
It's looking like DL will be the strength at our pick.

Austin Johnson, Jonathan Bullard, Sheldon Rankins and Kenny Clark will be selected around or after 28.

Gotta wonder if Dorsey keeps up his plan of drafting the position that is a the major FA the following year for insurance.

DaKCMan AP
01-26-2016, 01:38 PM
Bullard is the type of player New England grabs at the end of rd 1.
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staylor26
01-26-2016, 02:58 PM
It's looking like DL will be the strength at our pick.

Austin Johnson, Jonathan Bullard, Sheldon Rankins and Kenny Clark will be selected around or after 28.

Gotta wonder if Dorsey keeps up his plan of drafting the position that is a the major FA the following year for insurance.

I love Bullard and think he'd be a great replacement for Howard.

Urc Burry
01-26-2016, 03:30 PM
Deiondre Hall.. CB UNI. 6'2 with a 6'11 wingspan. Played corner, and due to injury filled in at safety. I can see Dorsey drooling over that guy. He also went to Blue Springs

OldSchool
01-27-2016, 11:11 AM
Deiondre Hall.. CB UNI. 6'2 with a 6'11 wingspan. Played corner, and due to injury filled in at safety. I can see Dorsey drooling over that guy. He also went to Blue Springs

Sean Smith replacement?

O.city
01-27-2016, 08:04 PM
Braxton miller in the 2nd round to kc.

Mark it down

Tribal Warfare
01-28-2016, 07:00 AM
Hell he might go top 10

or top 3

RunKC
01-28-2016, 08:53 AM
Why don't scouts like Kevin Hogan? He checks the boxes for height, weight, hands.

He is very smart and Shaw loved him. And he's a winner. Rose Bowl 2X including the year after Luck left (can you imagine the pressure of taking over for that guy?).

Yes he has a weird throwing motion, but so did Rivers. I don't get it

O.city
01-28-2016, 08:55 AM
He's not very accurate. Rivers has a weird throwing motion but that's the exception, not the rule.

O.city
01-28-2016, 08:57 AM
I'm of the opinion that like we did last year with peters, we need to continue to do what the pats, steelers, etc have done drafting at the end of the first have for years. Take good football players that drop for whatever reasons and put them into our system.

Right now, I'd be hoping Jaylon Smith's medical scare some teams and he drops right into our laps.

O.city
01-28-2016, 09:04 AM
http://m.chiefs.com/news/article-2/Ohio-State-WR-Braxton-Miller-Turning-Heads-at-Senior-Bowl/36672e7d-0729-4776-bf4d-bd38caba2d2b

He's obviously raw, but damn, Sheppard or miller in round 2/3 sounds pretty enticing

RunKC
01-28-2016, 10:21 AM
http://m.chiefs.com/news/article-2/Ohio-State-WR-Braxton-Miller-Turning-Heads-at-Senior-Bowl/36672e7d-0729-4776-bf4d-bd38caba2d2b

He's obviously raw, but damn, Sheppard or miller in round 2/3 sounds pretty enticing

I looked at a Twitter draft breakdown of Shepard and he had the best success rate of any WR in this class vs press and double coverage. Treadwell was 2nd.

I really think that Shepard is this year's Lockett

The Franchise
01-28-2016, 10:24 AM
insider Tony Pauline, Ohio State WR Braxton Miller's Senior Bowl performance has "moved (Miller) into the early part of round two."

Pauline believes Miller entered the event as a third-round prospect, but his stock has risen in Mobile. Miller measured 6-foot-1 3/8 and 204 pounds earlier in the week. Although he impressed in his transition from quarterback to wide receiver late in his college career, Miller managed a 26-341-3 receiving line as a fifth-year senior and will turn 24 years old this May.

OldSchool
01-29-2016, 12:33 AM
Braxton miller in the 2nd round to kc.

Mark it down

24 year old project? No thanks.

Scooter LaCanforno
01-29-2016, 05:28 AM
Clarification: Drafting Wentz would be a very Brown thing to do.




Browns should hope that another team doesn't move up to #1 and grab Wentz.

Sandy Vagina
01-29-2016, 08:02 AM
24 year old project? No thanks.

Looks great, but agree that Miller's learning curve might be a bit much to be gambling on. If he makes it to us in rd 2, it's worth consideration.. but I would rather a prospect that is more experienced and ready to contribute.

Saccopoo
01-31-2016, 12:19 PM
I had to work so I didn't get to watch the game. I saw that Dak Prescott got game MVP.

Anyone?

Coogs
01-31-2016, 12:29 PM
I had to work so I didn't get to watch the game. I saw that Dak Prescott got game MVP.

Anyone?

It is re-airing at 2:00 AM Central tonight on NFL Network. DVR?

I watched a little bit, but haven't had time to keep up on who to focus on, so it didn't grasp my attention a whole lot.

staylor26
01-31-2016, 12:53 PM
I had to work so I didn't get to watch the game. I saw that Dak Prescott got game MVP.

Anyone?

I watched. Couple notes:

1. Noah Spence is the best pass rusher in this draft. If he falls to us we have to take him.

2. Shawn Oakman had a pretty good game showing off his strength with a couple of nice bull rushes.

3. Braxton Miller was a little disappointing, but that might've been a blessing in disguise for a team like us hoping to get him in the 2nd.

4. Dak Prescott looked pretty good, and would be a great fit with Reid.

5. Jason Spriggs is a Fisher clone. Dominated all week, but will clearly need some time to get stronger and he'll struggle in that area early on. One of the guys Oakman beat with a bull rush.

O.city
02-01-2016, 03:33 PM
I don't see how a guy who struggles with accuracy from a spread system fits what Reid wants, but he wouldn't start right away so maybe that could be cleaned up.

The guys who have gotten around accuracy issues are pretty far and few between though.

ChiefAshhole1056
02-02-2016, 12:32 AM
Just got through the first quarter.
Wasn't overly impressed with Wentz. Made strong, accurate throws and he wasn't getting much help from his surrounding cast, but I guess after hearing all the praise about the guy I was expecting more chicken salad.

Aaron Green (RB TCU) flashed on his few touches to me. He had the first TD and if you disect the entire run, you see some real talent there. Shows solid speed/balance and very good vision. I'm going to keep an eye on him going forward.

Braxton Miller seems like he was just trying to do too much. He'll reclaim his name at the combine after this weak performance.

Coker is maybe a backup QB. Maybe.

Spence is the best pass rusher, but the little ND long haired defensive end has shown up a few times. Oakman is going to be the guy who is a huge disappointment for whoever picks him up, but will have a big day against some of the worst tackles in the league every year and will let his career ride off of that.

The MLBs from Kentucky and Temple have shown up the most to me, just don't think they will be much in the pros. Just don't have the talent once they have to face the big boys. But they have the instincts. Jones from LSU is probably the only one I'd want so far.

CleveSteve
02-02-2016, 10:16 AM
the little ND long haired defensive end has shown up a few times.

Sheldon Day is a 3T DT and was so quick at ND. People will call him undersized but said the same about Aaron Donald. He's definitely not as good as Donald but he has a role as a 3T.

The MLBs from Kentucky and Temple have shown up the most to me, just don't think they will be much in the pros. Just don't have the talent once they have to face the big boys. But they have the instincts. Jones from LSU is probably the only one I'd want so far. Matakevich did make a lot of tackles in the Senior Bowl, but he was awful vs. Penn State and vs Notre Dame this year, the only two Temple games I focused on him. He definitely needs to be kept clean to even belong on the field.


I agree on your observations about Wentz and about Green. Wentz is just is not the type to take your team to the next level. Do you want to draft an Andy Dalton/Ryan Tannehill type in the top 5? Green is one of those guys that if you get him the ball in space good things are going to happen, and he can make some moves at the LOS too.

The Franchise
02-02-2016, 10:44 AM
So many Notre Dame players that I would draft this year. There is no way that I come out of this draft without looking like a huge homer.

staylor26
02-02-2016, 10:47 AM
So many Notre Dame players that I would draft this year. There is no way that I come out of this draft without looking like a huge homer.

What's your take on Sheldon Day?

RunKC
02-02-2016, 10:52 AM
I'm wondering if Dorsey will look at this DL class and go for one in Rd 2 or 3 while getting a WR or OL Rd 1?

I have a bad feeling OT will be the pick at 28 bc FA doesn't appear to have anyone we can afford and the draft falls off a cliff for the position after the top 50.

The Franchise
02-02-2016, 10:53 AM
What's your take on Sheldon Day?

He's quick as shit....but definitely needs a season or two in the weight room to put on more strength. Unfortunately for us, I think his best fit in a 4-3. I don't think he's going to fall far enough for us to draft him strictly to use him in our nickle or dime packages.

O.city
02-02-2016, 10:59 AM
I don't think I'd be that upset with a tackle in the first round, if it's a guy that can swing over and play LT as well. I'd rather get a vet rt but cost wise it may be tough.

The Franchise
02-02-2016, 11:03 AM
It all depends on Howard and Smith. If we can't get either one of those guys to come back....then I say we sign a RT in FA and go WR/DL in the 1st. CB on the 2nd day along with a QB.

O.city
02-02-2016, 11:20 AM
I think you can find a good solid corner in free agency or already on the roster.

Same with the rt, really.

I don't know if you can with the wr spot though.

CleveSteve
02-02-2016, 02:39 PM
So many Notre Dame players that I would draft this year. There is no way that I come out of this draft without looking like a huge homer.

I think Prosise is the most underrated of all of them. No way is he the tenth-best RB in the draft. Kenyan Drake ahead of him? At worst he's probably the 5th best.

Stanley is probably the most overrated. Not that he's bad, but I don't see a top 10 player IMO.

kccrow
02-02-2016, 05:23 PM
I think Prosise is the most underrated of all of them. No way is he the tenth-best RB in the draft. Kenyan Drake ahead of him? At worst he's probably the 5th best.

Stanley is probably the most overrated. Not that he's bad, but I don't see a top 10 player IMO.


Agree on Prosise. Here's my top 10 RB rankings for the draft:

1. Ezekiel Elliott - Ohio State
2. Alex Collins - Arkansas
3. Kenneth Dixon - Louisiana Tech
4. CJ Prosise - Notre Dame
5. Aaron Green - Texas Christian
6. Kenyan Drake - Alabama
7. Kelvin Taylor - Florida
8. Jonathan Williams - Arkansas
9. Derrick Henry - Alabama
10. Josh Ferguson - Illinois
Honorable Mentions:
Jordan Howard - Indiana
Paul Perkins - UCLA

staylor26
02-02-2016, 05:32 PM
Agree on Prosise. Here's my top 10 RB rankings for the draft:

1. Ezekiel Elliott - Ohio State
2. Alex Collins - Arkansas
3. Kenneth Dixon - Louisiana Tech
4. CJ Prosise - Notre Dame
5. Aaron Green - Texas Christian
6. Kenyan Drake - Alabama
7. Kelvin Taylor - Florida
8. Jonathan Williams - Arkansas
9. Derrick Henry - Alabama
10. Josh Ferguson - Illinois
Honorable Mentions:
Jordan Howard - Indiana
Paul Perkins - UCLA

Derrick Henry 9th?

CleveSteve
02-02-2016, 05:42 PM
Not sure if you've gotten to watch Travis Greene from Bowling Green at all, but he can play, too. Good tackle breaker, fast, and agile... just misses the best hole sometimes.

kccrow
02-02-2016, 05:55 PM
Derrick Henry 9th?

Contemplated taking him out of the top 10 entirely. I don't like him at all. Honestly see him as having more of a Trent Richardson future than an Eddie Lacy future. He runs upright, he hits the hole slow. His biggest assets were hitting the gaping holes at Alabama and using his long stride to beat defenders down field. Only reason I've left him in is that I'll concede the outside shot that I'm wrong. If I were a GM, he wouldn't be on my board, I can say that.

By the way, want to add that if Kenyan Drake would have stayed healthy at 'Bama, Henry never touches a Heisman (that McCaffrey deserved anyhow).

kccrow
02-02-2016, 05:57 PM
Not sure if you've gotten to watch Travis Greene from Bowling Green at all, but he can play, too. Good tackle breaker, fast, and agile... just misses the best hole sometimes.

I have. I like him, but he doesn't touch my top 10. He doesn't actually hit my top 15. He's a good late round/UDFA flier though that could surprise.

Saccopoo
02-02-2016, 08:18 PM
Agree on Prosise. Here's my top 10 RB rankings for the draft:

1. Ezekiel Elliott - Ohio State
2. Alex Collins - Arkansas
3. Kenneth Dixon - Louisiana Tech
4. CJ Prosise - Notre Dame
5. Aaron Green - Texas Christian
6. Kenyan Drake - Alabama
7. Kelvin Taylor - Florida
8. Jonathan Williams - Arkansas
9. Derrick Henry - Alabama
10. Josh Ferguson - Illinois
Honorable Mentions:
Jordan Howard - Indiana
Paul Perkins - UCLA

Ummm...

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kccrow
02-02-2016, 09:22 PM
Ummm...

OMFG. LOL. I deleted him when I was shifting my rankings around. Holy mother fuck. HAHA.

I had him ranked 6th. Note to self, don't copy and paste from Excel when you forget to paste things back into Excel. I still can't believe I did that. I love Booker hahahaha.

Here's the correction with my round ratings.

1. Ezekiel Elliott - Ohio State (Rd 1)
2. Alex Collins - Arkansas (Rd 2)
3. Kenneth Dixon - Louisiana Tech (Rd 2)
4. CJ Prosise - Notre Dame (Rd 2)
5. Aaron Green - Texas Christian (Rd 3)
6. Devontae Booker - Utah (Rd 3)
7. Kenyan Drake - Alabama (Rd 3)
8. Kelvin Taylor - Florida (Rd 3)
9. Jonathan Williams - Arkansas (Rd 4)
10. Derrick Henry - Alabama (Rd 4)
Honorable Mentions:
Josh Ferguson - Illinois (Rd 4)
Jordan Howard - Indiana (Rd 5)
Paul Perkins - UCLA (Rd 5)

RunKC
02-03-2016, 01:37 PM
And there's Dorsey's OT. Le'Raven Clark. 36 inch Arms...THIRTY SIX. The average is usually 33-34.
10 7/8 inch hands? Goddamn.

He has elite footwork as well and solid functional strength. He's a smart football guy too.

Yup this is our first round pick if we can't find someone in FA. He's already got a 2nd round grade. He's moving up the board soon.

kccrow
02-03-2016, 02:02 PM
And there's Dorsey's OT. Le'Raven Clark. 36 inch Arms...THIRTY SIX. The average is usually 33-34.
10 7/8 inch hands? Goddamn.

He has elite footwork as well and solid functional strength. He's a smart football guy too.

Yup this is our first round pick if we can't find someone in FA. He's already got a 2nd round grade. He's moving up the board soon.

2nd round grade from who? Lance Zeirlein? laughable imo.

CleveSteve
02-03-2016, 02:05 PM
I wouldn't take him in the 2nd.

If you are looking for the most talented physical monster in the second, I'd take Vadal Alexander. I think he can stay at tackle and doesn't have to move back in to guard.

RunKC
02-03-2016, 03:01 PM
2nd round grade from who? Lance Zeirlein? laughable imo.

Actually heard it during senior bowl practices. Guys with measurables and athleticism like that don't last long usually

kccrow
02-03-2016, 03:56 PM
Actually heard it during senior bowl practices. Guys with measurables and athleticism like that don't last long usually

This is no knock on you, you're just stating what you heard, but I could see him making it into Day 2, but not Round 2. He's a marginal 3rd rounder to 4th round kind of player. Needs a ton of technique and stance work. I think sometimes these media guys get really caught up in athletic traits and forget about football. He's kind of akin to Stephenson coming out. Has all that you want in a tackle athletically, but will have to learn how to play that position pretty well from the ground up as a pro.