Las Vegas Raiders?

[ChiefsCountry]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14669152/oakland-raiders-owner-mark-davis-meet-las-vegas-officials-regarding-potential-stadium-sites-according-leaked-memo

ALAMEDA, Calif. -- While a leaked memo from UNLV president Len Jessup said representatives of the Oakland Raiders will be in Las Vegas on Friday to check out potential stadium sites, team owner Mark Davis would offer only a cryptic comment.

"In typical Raider fashion," Davis said with a laugh over the phone from the Bay Area, "I can neither confirm nor deny."

Davis will be in Las Vegas and is scheduled to meet with Las Vegas Sands Chairman and CEO Sheldon Adelson, Sands spokesman Ron Reese confirmed.

The Sands Corp. announced Thursday that it was lending its support to build a $1 billion domed stadium on a vacant 42 acres of land recently purchased by UNLV near the corner of Tropicana Avenue and Koval Lane across from McCarran International Airport.

"Correspondingly, the Sands leadership team let us know that officials from the Oakland Raiders are scheduled to travel to Las Vegas and tour locations around the valley for a potential new home, and they have asked us to meet them at our 42-acre site on Friday morning to answer questions about that site," Jessup wrote in the memo, which was reported earlier by Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston.

UNLV is looking for a new home for its football program, which has played at 35,500-seat Sam Boyd Stadium some nine miles from campus on the eastern edge of the city since 1971.

According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Los Angeles-based Majestic Realty Co. and UNLV are involved in the conceptual plans, and Las Vegas Sands senior vice president of government relations and community development Andy Abboud said the project would be a "public-private" partnership, with the Sands or the Adelson family contributing a large portion of the financing.

"He said the casino company, which operates the Venetian and Palazzo [casinos], as well as casinos in Macau, Singapore and Pennsylvania, could also raise financing for the project," the Review-Journal reported.

Tony Sanchez, UNLV's head football coach, said "having an on-campus, state-of-the-art stadium would be huge."

"We have a nice stadium now; the location is just a little further out," said Sanchez, who grew up a die-hard Raiders fan in the Bay Area. "To have something on campus, right in the heart of Las Vegas, would change the entire game-day atmosphere. We're right near the Strip. People can walk or take public transportation. It would be a great addition for the city."

Davis has long stated that remaining in Oakland is his primary goal, but after being rebuffed in an attempt to move to Los Angeles and join the Chargers in a joint-stadium project in nearby Carson, the Raiders do not have a lease for a home stadium for the 2016 season. They do have the option to join the Rams in Inglewood should the Chargers decline.

It is expected that the Raiders will play at least the 2016 season in Oakland. They have also been linked to San Diego, should the Chargers go to Los Angeles, for the following years as well as to San Antonio.

The NFL has had a hard line against Las Vegas, and it is hard to see the league signing off on allowing a team to relocate to the gambling capital of the country. The NFL did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

Las Vegas has chased a major league franchise for almost two decades, including MLB and NBA teams. The city appears close to getting an NHL team in under-construction T-Mobile Arena between the New York-New York and Monte Carlo casinos.

And while Las Vegas may be a relatively small media market at No. 41 nationally, it is bigger than four other current NFL markets in Jacksonville (No. 48), New Orleans (No. 51), Buffalo (No. 52) and Green Bay (No. 68), per last year's Nielsen data.

[Deberg_1990]

Oklahoma City Raiders?

[TLO]

Saint Joseph Missouri Raiders?

[ChiefsCountry]

Gambling issue will be probably squash it. But Vegas would be a good fit for the Raiders.

Stadium location is between the MGM Grand and UNLV.

[Why Not?]

No way, no how

[GloryDayz]

"Fuck 'de Raiders"

[KCwolf]

Never Happen .... NFL won't allow it

[The Franchise]

Gambling issue will be probably squash it. But Vegas would be a good fit for the Raiders.

Stadium location is between the MGM Grand and UNLV.

Yep. Plus I'd rather drive to Vegas to see a Chiefs game instead of going to Oakland.

[ChiefsCountry]

Yep. Plus I'd rather drive to Vegas to see a Chiefs game instead of going to Oakland.

Outside of Oakland or Los Angeles (which won't happen), it makes the most sense for them.

Vegas would be a cool spot to go see a Chiefs road trip. Could you imagine a Super Bowl in Vegas? :D

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't think there's anyway the other 31 owners allow a team in Vegas, despite the fact that the suburbs are filled with scumbags and degenerates

[eDave]

Football can't compete in Vegas, nor survive.

[Coochie liquor]

Ferguson Raiders

[Deberg_1990]

Football can't compete in Vegas, nor survive.

Granted, it was the 'United Football League' but i remember when the Locomotives played there, the stadium was near empty.

[ChiliConCarnage]

I suppose you have to look at everything but I'd think the San Antonio/Austin site would be the best. Granted, you'd have to get approval from the other in state teams but Texas has a huge population and is growing fast.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Saint Joseph Missouri Raiders?

Olathe Raiders. Come for the football, stay for the strip malls!

[Dartgod]

Olathe Raiders. Come for the football, stay for the strip malls!

A domed stadium will not be necessary either, given the near perfect weather year round.

[ChiefGator]

Honestly, I think it is a great idea for them. Tons of people will fly into Vegas to watch a game. Would you rather spend a random weekend in San Diego or Vegas? I think most would rather Vegas.

I don't see San Diego fan base welcoming the Raiders with open arms either. The Chargers just moved up the street a bit and there is plenty of Raider hate in San Diego.

[Hamwallet]

Gambling issue will be probably squash it. But Vegas would be a good fit for the Raiders.

Stadium location is between the MGM Grand and UNLV.

You can gamble in just about every state. There are several casinos 15 minutes from arrowhead.

[Sully]

You can gamble in just about every state. There are several casinos 15 minutes from arrowhead.
Betting on games?

No.

[Hydrae]

I suppose you have to look at everything but I'd think the San Antonio/Austin site would be the best. Granted, you'd have to get approval from the other in state teams but Texas has a huge population and is growing fast.

As an Austinite I would love to be able to see the Chiefs locally each year. The biggest issue will be getting Jerry to agree to it. He doesn't want another team in Texas but obviously 4 teams in California is just fine. :rolleyes:

[ct]

Tijuana Bandidos

[Schnitzel]

It's probably going to be the worst home field advantage in the league!

[KC_Lee]

Tijuana Bandidos

I was going to say Mexico City Raiders, but not far off.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It's a gambling town with adjacent cities several hours away. How would they expect to sell out a stadium?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

So they would go to another location Freighters would be too scurred to go to ROFL He will never see his team now.

[ChiefsLV]

It's still very hot in September here, well into October. A retractable roof stadium would be perfect. This city is ready for a pro sports team.

[GloucesterChief]

It's still very hot in September here, well into October. A retractable roof stadium would be perfect. This city is ready for a pro sports team.

Vegas did put in for an NHL team.

[TIED5573]

Quantrill's Raiders?



Lawerence is not amused.

[ChiefsCountry]

It's still very hot in September here, well into October. A retractable roof stadium would be perfect. This city is ready for a pro sports team.

They will go for a permanent dome for all the other events ie concerts, UFC, boxing, conventions, etc.

[alpha_omega]

Gambling issue will be probably squash it. ....

For sure. You won't see the Atlantic City Raiders either.

[Bowser]

I thought there were rules from way back saying no pro team (NFL, NBA, MLB) could have a home city that allowed sports betting?

[DaneMcCloud]

They will go for a permanent dome for all the other events ie concerts, UFC, boxing, conventions, etc.

I don't think there's a chance in hell that 24 owners vote for a move to Vegas.

Beyond that, it's a service industry town. There was 25%+ unemployment after the 2008 crash, plus housing prices plunged causing the most defaulted mortgages per capita in the US.

Their state government won't build a $1 billion dollar stadium and I can't see how they could possibly fill a 70,000 seat stadium on a consistent bases, let alone pay for PSL's.

This is a complete non-starter.

[ct]

It's a gambling town with adjacent cities several hours away. How would they expect to sell out a stadium?

the casinos will gobble up all the season tickets, it'll be like a corporate tourist home game every weekend

[ChiefsCountry]

I don't think there's a chance in hell that 24 owners vote for a move to Vegas.

Beyond that, it's a service industry town. There was 25%+ unemployment after the 2008 crash, plus housing prices plunged causing the most defaulted mortgages per capita in the US.

Their state government won't build a $1 billion dollar stadium and I can't see how they could possibly fill a 70,000 seat stadium on a consistent bases, let alone pay for PSL's.

This is a complete non-starter.

Private/public partnership with two big hitters and UNLV.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/adelson-to-meet-with-raiders-owner-about-nfl-move-to-las-vegas
Adelson’s plan would put a 65,000-seat domed stadium on 42 acres of land north of McCarran International Airport and east of the city’s famous Strip. UNLV’s football team plays in the smaller Sam Boyd Stadium in Whitney, Nevada, further east of the Strip.

The new stadium could be financed with a combination of public and private money, Reese said. It could include Adelson’s personal money as well as financing secured by hotel taxes, he said. Sands and the university are working with Majestic Realty Co.’s Ed Roski, who had previously sought an NFL team for land he owns east of Los Angeles.

[O.city]

The nfl doesn't acknowledge vegas exists. They aren't moving there

[DaneMcCloud]

Private/public partnership with two big hitters and UNLV.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/adelson-to-meet-with-raiders-owner-about-nfl-move-to-las-vegas

So Mark Davis would continue to be a welfare recipient.

How embarrassing.

[DaneMcCloud]

The nfl doesn't acknowledge vegas exists. They aren't moving there

Agreed.

Plus, Las Vegas may have the most fragile economy in the United States because it exists solely on tourism.

9/11 was disastrous for Vegas, with the 2008 economy and housing crashes maybe even worse.

[eDave]

Agreed.

Plus, Las Vegas may have the most fragile economy in the United States because it exists solely on tourism.

9/11 was disastrous for Vegas, with the 2008 economy and housing crashes maybe even worse.

This. Paper thin economy and suites filled with Casino executives is not a good look.

[DaneMcCloud]

This. Paper thin economy and suites filled with Casino executives is not a good look.

Plus, there's no way it gets 24 votes. I'd be surprised if they even got two (one vote by Mark Davis, of course).

The NFL has enough off the field problems to contend with each year.

Could you imagine 10 games a year played in Vegas? Young wealthy guys with a night on their own with all of the strip clubs and high stakes poker games, not to mention the prostitution?

The Dallas Cowboys wouldn't be able to field a team on Sunday.

[ct]

So Mark Davis would continue to be a welfare recipient.

How embarrassing.

why not all the fans are

[mr. tegu]

San Diego fills the stadium with opposing team's fans so I am sure Las Vegas could do even better.

[DaneMcCloud]

San Diego fills the stadium with opposing team's fans so I am sure Las Vegas could do even better.

There's a lot more money in San Diego and Orange County than Clark County.

[mr. tegu]

There's a lot more money in San Diego and Orange County than Clark County.
Yeah I am doubtful the city itself could support a team. I do think the honeymoon period would be huge though with out of town fans making a weekend of it and filling the stadium (assuming they wake up before kickoff).

[Spott]

It won't happen, but it would really screw up betting on the NFL if it did.

[Dartgod]

It won't happen, but it would really screw up betting on the NFL if it did.

How so?

[Spott]

How so?

It would eliminate most of the future's betting. You can't bet for or against a team in Nevada. So even if you put 50 dollars on the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl, it would be considered a bet against a Nevada team so you wouldn't be able to place the bet.

[Dartgod]

It would eliminate most of the future's betting. You can't bet for or against a team in Nevada. So even if you put 50 dollars on the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl, it would be considered a bet against a Nevada team so you wouldn't be able to place the bet.

Never knew that. Thanks for explaining.

[mr. tegu]

It would eliminate most of the future's betting. You can't bet for or against a team in Nevada. So even if you put 50 dollars on the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl, it would be considered a bet against a Nevada team so you wouldn't be able to place the bet.
They take futures bets in college basketball and manage to justify that's not a bet against UNLV. I am going to guess they also have futures bets for the Mountain West.

[Deberg_1990]

It will never happen.

The NBA won't even touch Vegas anymore thanks to all the crap that went down over the 2007 All Star game weekend

[BWillie]

I think NBA would be an infinitely better fit. Too many ppl hate the Raiders. Lots of ppl all around the country would love to fall in love with an LV team, but not the raiders. If the NBA got a team there, they would automatically be my squad

[ChiefsCountry]

FYI Raiders have their games on radio in Vegas and preseason games on Vegas TV.

[SAUTO]

I don't think there's a chance in hell that 24 owners vote for a move to Vegas.

Beyond that, it's a service industry town. There was 25%+ unemployment after the 2008 crash, plus housing prices plunged causing the most defaulted mortgages per capita in the US.

Their state government won't build a $1 billion dollar stadium and I can't see how they could possibly fill a 70,000 seat stadium on a consistent bases, let alone pay for PSL's.

This is a complete non-starter.
I'm hearing that people in league circles believe that is all bullshit.

[Deberg_1990]

I think NBA would be an infinitely better fit. Too many ppl hate the Raiders. Lots of ppl all around the country would love to fall in love with an LV team, but not the raiders. If the NBA got a team there, they would automatically be my squad

Probably even a worse fit.

See: 2007 NBA All Star weekend in Vegas

[DaneMcCloud]

I'm hearing that people in league circles believe that is all bullshit.

Not surprising.

And as I've mentioned in this thread, there isn't a chance in hell that 2 owners, let alone 24, approve an NFL team moving to Vegas.

Those billionaires are much, much smarter than that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Probably even a worse fit.

See: 2007 NBA All Star weekend in Vegas

Could you imagine 41+ NBA games in Vegas each year?

The league would need to contract teams because too many players would be unavailable.

[eDave]

Could you imagine 41+ NBA games in Vegas each year?

The league would need to contract teams because too many players would be unavailable.

Courtside would be all hookers and dealers. I say do it.

[SAUTO]

Not surprising.

And as I've mentioned in this thread, there isn't a chance in hell that 2 owners, let alone 24, approve an NFL team moving to Vegas.

Those billionaires are much, much smarter than that.

Yeah talked to him today and he laughed his ass off over Vegas. Said Stan has enough money it doesn't matter but Davis isn't even close to that guy.

[BWillie]

Could you imagine 41+ NBA games in Vegas each year?

The league would need to contract teams because too many players would be unavailable.

It would be so awesome.

[007]

ESPN just reported that the Chargers are staying put now. What the hell? Guess Raiders to LA is still an option.

[DaneMcCloud]

ESPN just reported that the Chargers are staying put now. What the hell? Guess Raiders to LA is still an option.

Los Angeles doesn't want the Raiders. The business leaders will block it.

I seriously doubt that Kroenke wants them either.

[Dayze]

Raiders LMAO


I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan. LMAO
****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Raiders LMAO


I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan. LMAO
****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

Like people who are "fans" of a team because it's the local franchise but would struggle to name two players on the team are somehow any better? BTW, the colors are actually silver & black. Do you even football much brah?

[BWillie]

Like people who are "fans" of a team because it's the local franchise but would struggle to name two players on the team are somehow any better? BTW, the colors are actually silver & black. Do you even football much brah?

Yes, much much better.

[displacedinMN]

How about the Nomadic Raiders.

Every week they play a home game in different city. College, pro, high school, world.

It could be a guessing game. Or cities could have a lottery to try to draw the Faid circus to their city.

[DaneMcCloud]

How about the Nomadic Raiders.

Every week they play a home game in different city. College, pro, high school, world.

It could be a guessing game. Or cities could have a lottery to try to draw the Faid circus to their city.

As long as they're run by that buffoon of an owner, they're going to be a mess.

My biggest fear with the Raiders is that Mark Davis finally wakes up and realizes that he needs a partner or that he needs to sell, then a Peter Guber or Larry Ellison, et al, steps in to purchase the team, build an amazing stadium and have the smarts to hire an excellent front office.

That would blow.

[Sully]

Raiders LMAO


I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan. LMAO
****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

That was me from about age 12 to 18 or so. It was the Yo, MTV Raps era, Bo was Bo, I was a fan of Howie Long. SO I had the starter jacket, the hats, jersey, etc.

I blame it on bad parenting.

[ChiefsCountry]

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160425/viva-las-raiders-owner-mark-davis-to-make-a-commitment-to-las-vegas-this-week

What if I would have told you five months ago the Rams would be in place in Los Angeles and have the top pick in the NFL draft?

And that the Chargers and San Diego might be on their way to a stadium agreement that would keep the Bolts in America’s finest city?

And, finally, the Oakland Raiders would seriously be considering Las Vegas as a future home?

Crazy, right?

Not so fast.

The Rams are back home, and sitting at the top of the draft.

The Chargers are pushing a beautiful new stadium in downtown San Diego, and momentum is building to get things done.

As for the Raiders, it’s too soon to say Viva Las Raiders, but what seemed like a far-fetched idea a few months ago is growing into a full-fledged possibility.

And about to get a big-time push forward.

Raiders owner Mark Davis will be in Las Vegas Thursday when the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) meets to discuss plans to build a 65,000-seat stadium near the Las Vegas strip, and according to sources, Davis will offer a commitment to pursue a Raiders relocation there if financing for the $1.3 billion project is approved.

Davis is absolutely serious about targeting Las Vegas as the future home for his franchise, and sees the growing city as the ideal landing spot for the Raiders both locally and regionally.

In Las Vegas, the Raiders envision a home base that would enable them to tap into the furthest reaches of their fan base. Las Vegas would be their primary market, but its elements as one of the most popular destination points in America would be the magnet they use to draw in Raiders fans and season-ticket holders from across the country.

And they have some powerful people getting behind a stadium effort that might soon be their future home.

Sheldon Adelson of the Sands Corp Corporation is proposing a domed stadium near the Strip through a public-private partnership. The preliminary financing proposal calls for about two-thirds of the funding to come from taxes on tourists.

The SNTIC will review tourism-related projects for possible state funding at this week’s meeting, with the stadium proposal being one of the projects being considered. The committee is expected to make a recommendation later this summer.

Davis’ appearance Thursday – and the commitment he is expected to make – could be a difference maker. Davis will leave no doubt his franchise will pursue relocation to Las Vegas if the stadium project is approved.

“It’s huge because the committee sees (the Raiders) are serious,” a source close to the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Southern California News Group. “And if (the committee) approves the funding, there will be no stopping the train.”

Meanwhile, there is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it.

“It would be a good home for them,” said a high-ranking NFL source.

And it’s a Raiders landing spot that could play perfectly into an NFL game of connect-the-dots that appeases more than just Davis’ interests.

The Rams, Chargers, Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans and NFL all have reasons to support a Raiders move to Las Vegas.

The Raiders are one of two teams that have been approved for relocation to Los Angeles to join the Rams at their new stadium in Inglewood, which is scheduled to open in 2019.

The Chargers get first dibs, but will use at least the next year to pursue a long-term stadium solution in San Diego before acting on their Los Angeles option.

If the Chargers opt to remain in San Diego, the Raiders are next in line to join the Rams in L.A.

But the growing momentum in Las Vegas – and the possibility the stadium financing might soon be approved – will leave the Raiders with options.

And potentially position them to use some NFL misgivings about their presence in L.A. - and the league’s desire to keep a second spot open in L.A. to use a stadium leverage across the NFL - to overcome concerns about moving a franchise to Las Vegas.

The Raiders can likely count on support from Rams owner Stan Kroenke, as it would mean the Rams having Los Angeles all to themselves.

Meanwhile, Chargers owner Dean Spanos would have obvious motivation to keep the Raiders out of Los Angeles – or San Diego, should the Chargers relocate to L.A. - as it would eliminate the Raiders considerable competition from the Southern California region.

And if you’re Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys or Bob McNair of the Houston Texans, supporting a Raiders move to Los Vegas would mean keeping them out of San Antonio, a city the Raiders have long considered as a possible relocation destination.

Those are four likely votes for the Raiders, who would need 24 of 32 owners to sign off on their wishes.

Obviously there are concerns about Las Vegas – the close proximity to gambling and casinos first and foremost - but it would be a mistake to assume a Raiders move to Las Vegas would be opposed by the NFL.

And the NFL made that abundantly clear in a memo it sent to all teams last February.

In it, the NFL said: There is no prohibition under league rules on a team moving to any particular city. Any proposal for relocation would be evaluated based on the same standards as apply to any proposed move. Those standards are well-known, having just been applied in connection with relocation proposals to Los Angeles.

As a high-ranking league official told me at the owners meeting in Florida:

“I think it would be a mistake to just write Las Vegas off. It’s all predicated on getting the financing in order, but if they do, considering the Raiders brand and how well it could play in Las Vegas and all the various other dots that can be connected, the Raiders would have a very compelling argument to make.”

And NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell stressed in March at the league meetings that the casino implications don’t render a Raiders relocation a no-go.

“We’d have to understand it, we’d have to understand what the impact is on us and ultimately each owner would have a vote on that,” Goodell said, implying a softening in the league’s long-held stance on a team presence in Las Vegas.

One month later, the Raiders and Mark Davis are on the verge of making a commitment to Las Vegas.

It seemed far-fetched just a few months ago.

But that train is roaring down the tracks, and if the financing comes through there might not be anything stopping it.

Viva Las Raiders.

[DaneMcCloud]

It's looking like Las Vegas is a serious option for the Raiders, especially since Davis has partnered up for a $1.8 billion dollar facility. Reportedly, the NFL will not stop them, either.

Personally, I think it would be cool and a great reason to hit Vegas each year.

[ChiefsCountry]

You would have to think Chiefs and Broncos a yearly fan travel package to Vegas would be a great seller.

[O.city]

Seems like a great idea for opposing teams,dunno about the Raiders

[ChiefsCountry]

Seems like a great idea for opposing teams,dunno about the Raiders

Las Vegas is a Raiders town. They have radio affiliate, games on preseason etc.

[O.city]

Las Vegas is a Raiders town. They have radio affiliate, games on preseason etc.

Eh, I'd say it's an any team town. It's cheap to get there, raider home games will be opposing fans on a weekend trip.

Gonna be great for vegas though.

[The Franchise]

I'd much rather go to Vegas instead of Oakland for a Chiefs/Raiders game.....and I'm an hour away from Oakland.

[Eleazar]

Why should Oakland have a team, anyway?

[O.city]

Hell yeah, I'd go for the chiefs game.

[BWillie]

Based on Citydata.com, Median Income in Oakland $54,000. That doesn't sound bad until you see that the median home value is $450,000.

Compare that to Overland Park, Median Income $70,000, Median Home Value $228,000.

[Eleazar]

Based on Citydata.com, Median Income in Oakland $54,000. That doesn't sound bad until you see that the median home value is $450,000.

Compare that to Overland Park, Median Income $70,000, Median Home Value $228,000.

Well to be fair, most people in Oakland live in incarceration facilities.

[frozenchief]

I remember Howie Long not letting his family go to Raiders games when they played in Oakland. I hope that would be different if they played in Vegas. I guess it depends on how many Oakland convicts come down to watch the game. Anybody know how easily California Department of Corrections gives out of state passes for parolees?

[Eleazar]

I remember Howie Long not letting his family go to Raiders games when they played in Oakland. I hope that would be different if they played in Vegas. I guess it depends on how many Oakland convicts come down to watch the game. Anybody know how easily California Department of Corrections gives out of state passes for parolees?

They made their way down to San Diego every year to stab Charger fans, Vegas is probably about the same distance from Oakland

[DaneMcCloud]

If this keeps the Raiders and their fans out of Los Angeles, I'm all for it.

[O.city]

Anything that gives me a reason to go to vegas, I'm all for

[ct]

i still prefer the Tijuana Bandidos

[staylor26]

Good. Peters will have no reason to leave us for the Raiders if this happens.

[InChiefsHeaven]

For some reason, I'm kind of excited by this idea. Don't really know why, but it seems like a cool landing spot for the Rayduures...

[DaneMcCloud]

I've heard from a few of my friends that are Raiders fans (that actually live or lived in the Bay area) and not surprisingly, they're not down with this move, even the guys that live in Los Angeles (Vegas is only 3.5 hours by car whereas Oakland is closer to 5.5 hours).

The main reason being that they're "Bay area guys", not Vegas guys. I get that, as it would suck if the Chiefs left KC for Vegas, even though it would be much closer for me.

[ct]

Anyone worried about economic down times impacting ticket sales, i would imagine every single home game would have a strong marketing campaign in the visitor's city for travel packages. Not to mention the corporate stooges reserving luxury suites. I don't think they would have any problem selling out regularly, and easily.

[Eleazar]

Anyone worried about economic down times impacting ticket sales, i would imagine every single home game would have a strong marketing campaign in the visitor's city for travel packages. Not to mention the corporate stooges reserving luxury suites. I don't think they would have any problem selling out regularly, and easily.

If you're an owner wanting to make warehouse loads of cash it sounds like a great idea.

If you're a fan and want your team to essentially play all road games it also sounds like a great idea.

They'd be going from splitting an area with about 8 or 10 million people to an area with about 2 million and would probably see a stadium half full of road fans every week. Not a recipe for success

[Toby Waller]

and the nfl will continue to deny gambling exists while giving air time to gambling sites

[Valiant]

If you're an owner wanting to make warehouse loads of cash it sounds like a great idea.

If you're a fan and want your team to essentially play all road games it also sounds like a great idea.

They'd be going from splitting an area with about 8 or 10 million people to an area with about 2 million and would probably see a stadium half full of road fans every week. Not a recipe for success

They would be fine, around 2 million people live there. That is a big enough boost to get the stadium half full if not more. Basically equal to every other team not in a major city. Then the rest of the seats get sold or given out by casino's. And as time goes on, especially if they win the fan base gets stronger there.

It is not a super far drive from LA/Oakland, and it seems airline tickets are not a whole lot, I have a feeling lots of fans will still keep their tickets and then just sell them if they cant go that week.

The Chiefs week will fuck them though being that much closer.

[DaneMcCloud]

They would be fine, around 2 million people live there. That is a big enough boost to get the stadium half full if not more. Basically equal to every other team not in a major city. Then the rest of the seats get sold or given out by casino's. And as time goes on, especially if they win the fan base gets stronger there.

It is not a super far drive from LA/Oakland, and it seems airline tickets are not a whole lot, I have a feeling lots of fans will still keep their tickets and then just sell them if they cant go that week.

The Chiefs week will fuck them though being that much closer.

Las Vegas was devastated after the 2008 crash. 40% of the homeowners were underwater and being a service town, unemployment was higher than 25%.

While I think that under normal circumstances, an NFL franchise can survive in Las Vegas, there's no doubt that if there's an economic downturn, they'll be the hardest hit.

[BWillie]

and the nfl will continue to deny gambling exists while giving air time to gambling sites

Sports should embrace gambling IMO. Pro sports anyway.

[Toby Waller]

Sports should embrace gambling IMO. Pro sports anyway.

It has since the beginning of time. They just won't say so.
The point spread is on every site and article.
The word favorite or favored is in every article.

It's why what you consider trash games on Thursdays still thrive..bbecause people gambling want to see a particular spread happen even if it's obvious who's winning .
Even the team everyone said would lose still scores twice in the last 5 minutes to at least cover..oor at least tease the possibility to civer

[Deberg_1990]

Seems like a natural fit for the Raiders. Sin City

[Toby Waller]

Seems like a natural fit for the Raiders. Sin City

But they are silver and not gold

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

They need to do something. That stadium is a glorified toilet.

[O.city]

Annual cp get together in vegas every year for the chiefs game?

[Dayze]

if I go to Vegas, it sure as shit isn't going to be to watch the Chiefs drop a winnable game during a hopeful playoff run.

[GloryDayz]

if I go to Vegas, it sure as shit isn't going to be to watch the Chiefs drop a winnable game during a hopeful playoff run.

Yes, there are better cities for that...

[Rausch]

Yes, there are better cities for that...

Not really. That's probably the only place that could distract me from yet another playoff loss...

[Dartgod]

Hell yeah, I'd go to Vegas for a Chiefs game.

[GloryDayz]

Hell yeah, I'd go to Vegas for a Chiefs game.

I've been to Denver for a Chiefs game, so yeah, why not Vegas..

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I've been to Denver for a Chiefs game, so yeah, why not Vegas..

Prayers sent.

[Dartgod]

I've been to Denver for a Chiefs game, so yeah, why not Vegas..

I've been to Denver, San Diego and Chicago for Chiefs games. We lost every time.

[Rausch]

I've been to Denver, San Diego and Chicago for Chiefs games. We lost every time.

Damn.

On the plus side I'd go to a Raider game in LV - I have no desire to see one in Oakland/LA...

[ct]

If you're an owner wanting to make warehouse loads of cash it sounds like a great idea.

If you're a fan and want your team to essentially play all road games it also sounds like a great idea.

They'd be going from splitting an area with about 8 or 10 million people to an area with about 2 million and would probably see a stadium half full of road fans every week. Not a recipe for success

so, define "success"

winning games? or filling seats? or making cash money? who is in control and what are the goals?

[Rausch]

so, define "success"

winning games? or filling seats? or making cash money? who is in control and what are the goals?

If you win all the rest follows...

[Mr. Laz]

I absolutely think the NFL should move the faiders to Vegas.

new big market that can host the super bowl and already has all the hotels etc needed.

[Rausch]

I absolutely think the NFL should move the faiders to Vegas.

new big market that can host the super bowl and already has all the hotels etc needed.

The SB in Vegas would be HUGE...

[ct]

The SB in Vegas would be HUGE...

quite honestly, maybe the SB should ALWAYS be in Vegas!

and the draft too!

[Toby Waller]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ6OQvdUMAAduyf.jpg

[Rausch]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ6OQvdUMAAduyf.jpg

Wow.

That almost makes me want to have some sympathy...

[Rausch]

quite honestly, maybe the SB should ALWAYS be in Vegas!

and the draft too!

:toast:

[notorious]

I don't want to see a bunch of Raiders gear when I am on a heater at 4am in the morning.

[ct]

si

[Kiimo]

Davis and Vegas officials had another meeting today discussing possible stadium plans. Announcement could come this week about plans to relocate.


Oh my GOD no Raiders in LA, no Chargers in LA, city rallies around the Rams and I get to drive 2hrs to see my Chiefs in San Diego's brand spanking new Gaslamp stadium and fly 30 minutes to see the Chiefs in Vegas.

Every.

Year.

[Kiimo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ6OQvdUMAAduyf.jpg



Please refer to them by their new name,

THE MOJAVE DESERT RAIDERS

[Dayze]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ6OQvdUMAAduyf.jpg

The Las Vegas Axl Roses

[GloryDayz]

I've been to Denver, San Diego and Chicago for Chiefs games. We lost every time.

We lost when I went too. The lack of O2 gets to every team that goes there is all I heard.

[Buns]

It would probably be the Nevada Raiders, I read something about pro teams not using Las Vegas in their names.

Fuck any form of the Raiders but to be able to see the Chiefs here once a year would be awesome.

[Kiimo]

Okay so it looks like Davis is putting in 500million. Also there's talk that there could be slots and gaming tables in the stadium.

Also this

Rick Velotta
✔
‎@RickVelotta

UNLV President Len Jessup says stadium could lead to school moving to a "power conference."


Man. I'm really not even joking here, putting slot machines in the stadium to help pay back the loan is a legit thing that could happen and would absolutely work.


edit: in fact there are all kinds of possibilities. Mad about your 13 dollar beer? Well that's an unlucky number. Pay an extra dollar and pull this lever and you can get this beer for free! Oh better luck next time. Players win and winners play.

[ChiefsCountry]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/28/raiders-owner-pledges-500-million-for-las-vegas-stadium/

Mark Davis is probably getting comped on this trip to Las Vegas, because he’s willing to drop half a billion dollars there.

Via Scott Bair of CSNBayArea.com, the Raiders owner told the Southern Nevada Tourism and Infrastructure Committee meeting that he was ready to commit $500 million toward a stadium there to bring his team to the desert.

Davis also brought some rhetoric with him, saying Las Vegas: “would not just be getting a football team, they would be getting everyone who has worn the silver and black for the last 56 years.”

Of course, shaking the tree and waiting for the money to fall out isn’t the only problem for Davis, who would still need to convince 23 of his fellow owners to approve a move. But the reaction to Las Vegas has been more positive (or at least less negative) than it has been in the past.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

This has to happen.

Oakland fans cry.

And geographically, it would be great for the NFL.

[DaneMcCloud]

This has to happen.

Oakland fans cry.

And geographically, it would be great for the NFL.

I don't think that "Oakland" fans give a shit.

Raiders fans won't give a shit either, outside of the few that live in Bay area.

There are more Raiders fans in SoCal than NorCal.

[DaneMcCloud]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/28/raiders-owner-pledges-500-million-for-las-vegas-stadium/

Mark Davis is probably getting comped on this trip to Las Vegas, because he’s willing to drop half a billion dollars there.

Via Scott Bair of CSNBayArea.com, the Raiders owner told the Southern Nevada Tourism and Infrastructure Committee meeting that he was ready to commit $500 million toward a stadium there to bring his team to the desert.

Davis also brought some rhetoric with him, saying Las Vegas: “would not just be getting a football team, they would be getting everyone who has worn the silver and black for the last 56 years.”

Of course, shaking the tree and waiting for the money to fall out isn’t the only problem for Davis, who would still need to convince 23 of his fellow owners to approve a move. But the reaction to Las Vegas has been more positive (or at least less negative) than it has been in the past.

So Davis has no problem chipping in $500 mil for Vegas but won't do the same for Oakland.

Looks like someone wants out of Oakland.

[The Franchise]

I don't think that "Oakland" fans give a shit.

Raiders fans won't give a shit either, outside of the few that live in Bay area.

There are more Raiders fans in SoCal than NorCal.

The Bay Area Raiders fans will go back to being 49ers fans in no time.

[DaneMcCloud]

The Bay Area Raiders fans will go back to being 49ers fans in no time.

Yep.

It's hilarious to me that Golden State is moving out of Oakland and to SF, too.

Oakland's a dump.

[O.city]

Vegas would be awesome

[The Franchise]

Yep.

It's hilarious to me that Golden State is moving out of Oakland and to SF, too.

Oakland's a dump.

This place is the fucking worst.

49ers go the Superbowl? Let's all buy brand new 49ers shit.

Giants win the WS? Look....we're all Giants fans!

Warriors are good again? Look at all of this "The City" shit I have!

The Bay Area might as well be coined "The Bandwagon Fan Capitol of the World".

[DaneMcCloud]

This place is the fucking worst.

49ers go the Superbowl? Let's all buy brand new 49ers shit.

Giants win the WS? Look....we're all Giants fans!

Warriors are good again? Look at all of this "The City" shit I have!

The Bay Area might as well be coined "The Bandwagon Fan Capitol of the World".

I know several guys like that from the Bay area.

When the A's were good, they're HUGE Oakland fans. When the Giants go the WS and A's suck, they're all Giants fans.

It's hilarious and sad at the same time, just like that fucking bozo, Sandy Cheeks.

[ChiefsLV]

What initially seemed like a longshot is getting closer to reality. As a Chiefs fan living in Vegas, I'd totally have season tickets just to see pro ball 8 games a year. We've had every shade of semi-pro football team here: CFL, XFL, UFL, Arena, and all have had good support from the locals. The stadium mock-up looks sweet too.

[Kiimo]

http://www.lvmonorail.com/route-map/


Tropicana and Koval is the location. That's kind of a dump area but will get cleaned up in a second (goodbye, Hooters, hello much-needed Luxor upgrade). The access to the airport is ideal.

[BWillie]

I'd rather Vegas have an NBA, NHL, MLB team before an NFL team. In that order. But I guess anything is better than none.

[BWillie]

http://www.lvmonorail.com/route-map/


Tropicana and Koval is the location. That's kind of a dump area but will get cleaned up in a second (goodbye, Hooters, hello much-needed Luxor upgrade). The access to the airport is ideal.

Nooo they gonna knock down my Motel 6 lol
Its right at the corner of Trop and Koval

That is where I stay when I go on long trips to LV without friends. Super duper cheap and clean. No resort scam (fee). Easy in and out with rental car.

[Kiimo]

I have found, not kidding, two syringes on separate occasions in that Motel 6 parking lot.

[DaneMcCloud]

I have found, not kidding, two syringes on separate occasions in that Motel 6 parking lot.

Not surprised.

BeauWillie would stay in a 1920's flophouse if the price was right.

[Buns]

That whole area is AIDS, but it is kind of beautiful in it's filth.

[BWillie]

Not surprised.

BeauWillie would stay in a 1920's flophouse if the price was right.

That area, not good, but Motel 6 there is not bad. No frills, and it's clean. $55 a night (no resort fee) compared to $150+ a night at a low end strip hotel. Other hotels around there are not very clean, such as the America's Best Value Inn. As long as it's clean and has parking close, all I care about. I sleep there 5 hours a night when I'm in Vegas, which is usually just to play poker. Otherwise if I'm with the GF or friends I'll stay at Venetian, Aria or Bellagio. But when I'm by myself, I GNFs where I stay.

Last year I stayed at the Motel 6 there, and then 10 days later some friends showed up and I stayed at Bellagio for 4 days. From bed bugs to riches lol

[Rain Man]

Nooo they gonna knock down my Motel 6 lol
Its right at the corner of Trop and Koval

That is where I stay when I go on long trips to LV without friends. Super duper cheap and clean. No resort scam (fee). Easy in and out with rental car.

Resort fees are the biggest ripoff in America today, if you exclude stuff that Hillary Clinton is involved with.

[BWillie]

Resort fees are the biggest ripoff in America today, if you exclude stuff that Hillary Clinton is involved with.

Yep. And they keep going up each year. Aria is charging $35.86 this year. The entire strip has doubled their resort fees in the last 2 years. You used to be able to just request to have them removed and they'd do it. Not anymore. I guess if you are a high roller like Simply Red, and have a diamond card or whatever top tier card, they will remove 'em. Starting June 1st, MGM properties are even going to start charging $10 - $20 for SELF PARK. Ugh.

[DaneMcCloud]

Yep. And they keep going up each year. Aria is charging $35.86 this year. The entire strip has doubled their resort fees in the last 2 years. You used to be able to just request to have them removed and they'd do it. Not anymore. I guess if you are a high roller like Simply Red, and have a diamond card or whatever top tier card, they will remove 'em. Starting June 1st, MGM properties are even going to start charging $10 - $20 for SELF PARK. Ugh.

Just wait until the new stadium is built.

It'll cost non-residents even more money.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Will Freighters ride his rig in to finally see his team play? Legal lot lizards brah!

[R8RFAN]

Gambling issue will be probably squash it. But Vegas would be a good fit for the Raiders.

Stadium location is between the MGM Grand and UNLV.

Na... You can gamble in vegas from bumphucking egypt all you need is something called the interwebs but... The ho's will be the problem

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

So Davis has no problem chipping in $500 mil for Vegas but won't do the same for Oakland.

Looks like someone wants out of Oakland.

Can you blame him? Shiiiiiiiiiiiit-hooooooooooole.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Na... You can gamble in vegas from bumphucking egypt all you need is something called the interwebs but... The ho's will be the problem

You gonna actually go to a game for once?

[Kiimo]

I think this couldn't have worked out any better for me, a Los Angeles resident from KC. The Rams are in LA and I don't mind cheering for them, it somehow is okay because they aren't a rival and it sort of screws St. Louis in the process which is an added benefit.

Simultaneously if San Diego builds a beautiful new stadium in Gaslamp and the Raiders build a stadium on the bodies of dead hookers next to Hooters that means I can watch two games every year in San Diego and Vegas, two vacations I go on every year anyway.

I'd be ecstatic.

[the Talking Can]

i think an nfl team would make a killing in vegas

tourists and conferences can fill half the stadium 8 times a year, easy

definitely be less of a home team environment, but a money machine..how fun would it be to drink and gamble, go to an nfl game, then drink and gamble some more?

[R8RFAN]

You gonna actually go to a game for once?

Yea I will fly out there and make a vacation out of it

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yea I will fly out there and make a vacation out of it

Sounds fun.

[GloryDayz]

Are the citizens of Las Vegas dick-hole enough to be the Raiders' home? It's hard to find the density of assholes like you can in Oakland, so I'm not sure they can remain the Raiders.

[DaneMcCloud]

Are the citizens of Las Vegas dick-hole enough to be the Raiders' home? It's hard to find the density of assholes like you can in Oakland, so I'm not sure they can remain the Raiders.

In a word, yes.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

In a word, yes.

Yep, there's definitely enough trash to keep the tradition alive.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

All the drunks should be able to recreate the piss smell of the Colosseum, so those in the black butthole will feel at home.

[Kiimo]

Vegas might have as much righteous trash as Florida. I think you'd have to go someplace like Gary, IN to find worse.

[R8RFAN]

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18j54ccvwito2jpg.jpg

[ChiefsCountry]

Steve Wynn says Las Vegas should get ready for Raiders
http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/columns-blogs/norm-clarke/steve-wynn-says-las-vegas-should-get-ready-raiders
By Norm Clarke
Las Vegas Review-Journal

Billionaire Steve Wynn quietly has been taking on a power-broker role to help bring the NFL to Las Vegas.

Addressing his involvement for the first time during a red carpet event Friday, Wynn revealed he’s met with Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two influential NFL owners, Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys and Stan Kroenke, who recently moved his St. Louis Rams to Los Angeles.

Wynn said Las Vegas has to be ready if the opportunity presents itself.

“If the NFL says, ‘If you want to move to Las Vegas, Raiders, you can,’ then we’ve got to spring into action and we’ve got to come up with a program.

“I just thought it would be a great thing for the town, don’t you agree?”

Word of Wynn’s interest recently surfaced. At a Thursday news conference at UNLV, Davis confirmed he met with Wynn. Rob Goldstein, president and chief operating officer of Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp., credited Wynn with initiating the domed stadium conversation in a meeting with Adelson and Goldstein about three or four years ago.

“This very idea came out of his mouth,” Goldstein said at the news conference after he and Davis appeared before the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee.

Las Vegas Sands operates Adelson’s empire of hotel-casinos. Sands is a partner with Ed Roski’s Majestic Reality in pledging private financing for a proposed $1.4 billion domed stadium in the Strip resort corridor.

Davis on Thursday told the SNTIC, an advisory panel appointed by Gov. Brian Sandoval, that he would provide $500 million toward the construction of the 65,000-seat stadium if a public-private financing plan is approved by the Legislature.

I asked Wynn if he was partnering with Adelson.

“Well,” said Wynn, “Sheldon and I are both very strong supporters of it, and how it plays out is something we’ve got to see.

“We haven’t been down to the nitty gritty of it because, first of all, do the owners believe this is OK?” he added. “Their attitude toward the relationship with sports and gaming has changed. They’re having two games in London, where the entire audience can bet play by play, and the NFL is going to London and the audience is participating in that.

“So there’s been a sea change in the NFL’s attitude, at least based upon the London games,” Wynn continued. “It’s not hypocritical. I think they’re in a state of change. How that plays out with us is interesting.”

Wynn emphasized that “the one thing that Las Vegas should have in its arsenal that’s missing is a great stadium and an NFL team,” he said.

Davis “is dying to do it. He came to see me and Sheldon (Adelson). He made the rounds. He wanted to make sure there was local support.”

“Now financing these puppies is no small thing. How that plays out. … I went to dinner last week with Jerry Jones and Stan Kroenke and got into the conversation how Jerry did Cowboys [AT&T] Stadium.

“It’s a lamination of several different types of layers of financing,” Wynn said, “and we’re going to have to focus on that if there’s local support. Let me put it this way: If there’s a will, there’s a way.

“The question is if you can get 24 of 32 owners to agree,” Wynn said of the league support required to relocate an NFL franchise. “So there’s two strategies here: to get the others to think it’s OK, at least 24 out of 32, and secondly develop a strategy for financing,” he said.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Piss, sex, and shame....perfect Raider town

[Psyko Tek]

Football can't compete in Vegas, nor survive.

i THINK IT COULD
WOULD BE THE WORSE HOME CROWD EVER
WHO THE HELL WOULDN'T GO TO Vegas TO WATCH THEIR TEAM PLAY
sorry caps lock

and the sky boxes would always be full

[Toby Waller]

i THINK IT COULD
WOULD BE THE WORSE HOME CROWD EVER
WHO THE HELL WOULDN'T GO TO Vegas TO WATCH THEIR TEAM PLAY
sorry caps lock

and the sky boxes would always be full

Don't apologize.
Anyone who stresses,and calls typing in caps yelling is a fool

[Kiimo]

Anything that simultaneously increases my number of games I can watch the Chiefs and decreases the home advantage for a rival is great. I feel like Raiders home games would have like 30% visiting teams.

It beats Oakland, where visiting the stadium is a literal health risk.

[Kerberos]

I'm all for them moving to Vegas....It will be close enough for me to go watch a game when the Chiefs come to Vegas.... It's far enough away from where I live here in the Vegas Valley that I don't have to be around it every day.

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a> - Nevada panel approves $750M public funding plan for Las Vegas Raiders stadium. <a href="https://twitter.com/News3LV">@News3LV</a> <a href="https://t.co/uDrQCibewx">pic.twitter.com/uDrQCibewx</a></p>&mdash; Nathan O&#39;Neal (@NateNews3LV) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateNews3LV/status/776492029555593216">September 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Flopnuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a> - Nevada panel approves $750M public funding plan for Las Vegas Raiders stadium. <a href="https://twitter.com/News3LV">@News3LV</a> <a href="https://t.co/uDrQCibewx">pic.twitter.com/uDrQCibewx</a></p>&mdash; Nathan O&#39;Neal (@NateNews3LV) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateNews3LV/status/776492029555593216">September 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Here we go!!!

[ChiefsCountry]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-stadium-in-las-vegas-is-now-just-one-step-away-from-approval/

[ChiefsLV]

Vegas might have as much righteous trash as Florida. I think you'd have to go someplace like Gary, IN to find worse.

You'd fit in nicely here.

[Kiimo]

I'm the guy on the front of the Chiefs bandwagon rolling into town.


http://static.businessinsider.com/image/555a3ea8ecad048c701d8712/image.gif

[Buns]

Fuck, time to move

[Sorter]

I think the Fertittas owning a NFL team is a lovely idea.

[Kiimo]

lmao if you aren't hyped as f for a football game in Vegas.

There should be sports book betting from your seat and slot machines in bathrooms.

Who cares if it's the Raiders? At least Chiefs fans won't have to fear traveling to Raiders games anymore.

This stadium will sell out based on visiting teams alone. I know I'm going every year for Chiefs / Raiders. F yes I am.

[KChiefs1]

It's happening


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[Carlota69]

As a Vegas Chiefs fan, Im fully on board. I might even consider chipping in on season tix just so I have my seats for Chiefs every year, and any playoff game that might involve the Chiefs, and if a Super Bowl comes here? Im so on it. Plus, I work at a radio station that includes ESPN and FOX sports, so financially, its a good deal. It would be great for this city too. NFL, dont care who it is, will be good for Vegas. The impossible becomes the possible-Super Bowls, World Cups etc...Its all possible with a NFL team and a stadium like the one they are looking to build.

[O.city]

lmao if you aren't hyped as f for a football game in Vegas.

There should be sports book betting from your seat and slot machines in bathrooms.

Who cares if it's the Raiders? At least Chiefs fans won't have to fear traveling to Raiders games anymore.

This stadium will sell out based on visiting teams alone. I know I'm going every year for Chiefs / Raiders. F yes I am.

Right?

I needed a legit reason to go to Vegas once a year. Done and done.

[Dayze]

I'm going to open up a stand in vegas that sells the retarded Halloween costume shit we always see at Oakland games. I wonder if Vegas raider fans will be as shitbaggish as the Oakland trash.

Good news is you can probably place a bet right from your seats as to whether or not the guy next to you is on parole or not or if hell stab someone in the parking lot afterwards.

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[DaNewGuy]

I'm going to open up a stand in vegas that sells the retarded Halloween costume shit we always see at Oakland games. I wonder if Vegas raider fans will be as shitbaggish as the Oakland trash.

Good news is you can probably place a bet right from your seats as to whether or not the guy next to you is on parole or not or if hell stab someone in the parking lot afterwards.

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My guess is they would probably be worse. Factor in the gambling and booze. I could see more people getting stabbed.

[Carlota69]

My guess is they would probably be worse. Factor in the gambling and booze. I could see more people getting stabbed.

Considering most of the stadium will probably be filled with high rollers, the opposing teams fans, and people with serious $ due to whats its probably gonna cost to go to a game, I highly doubt it'll be like it was in Oakland.

[DaNewGuy]

Considering most of the stadium will probably be filled with high rollers, the opposing teams fans, and people with serious $ due to whats its probably gonna cost to go to a game, I highly doubt it'll be like it was in Oakland.

Good way to talk me into stabbing someone. I can blend in with my Tim Brown jersey

[meStevo]

Can't wait. Ready to pay for a couple of PSLs.

[SAUTO]

I think the Fertittas owning a NFL team is a lovely idea.

Me too.

[chiefzilla1501]

Considering most of the stadium will probably be filled with high rollers, the opposing teams fans, and people with serious $ due to whats its probably gonna cost to go to a game, I highly doubt it'll be like it was in Oakland.

Yup. The more I hear about this, the more I hate it. I'm ok with San Diego because nobody in that city gives a shit about their team. As much as I hate Oakland, hating the Raiders means hating the black hole. I'm a fan of a team in Vegas. Not the Raiders.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Raiders will attract far more talent in every aspect of the organization with this move.

[the Talking Can]

vegas will soon have the nfl and legal weed...very strong 'pros'...

[GloryDayz]

The team is certainly making an upgrade if they do it.

[Rasputin]

The team is certainly making an upgrade if they do it.


Just not having to play on a baseball field would be an upgrade.

[ChiefsCountry]

According to the NFL fan map in 2014, Raiders were 3rd most popular team in Vegas already behind the 49ers and Cowboys, numbers were pretty tight as well.

[BWillie]

Blah. I was hoping Vegas would get NBA or Hockey. Don't care about NFL in Vegas at all. I'm not going to Vegas to watch a football game. It's also going to make my hotel more expensive and make Las Vegasians (?) into Raider shitbags. Fuck me.

[mr. tegu]

This is so terrific. Perhaps this could get us one step closer to more wide spread sports betting.

[kstater]

An open air stadium in Vegas? The first month of games willll be 100 degrees out

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[-King-]

Blah. I was hoping Vegas would get NBA or Hockey. Don't care about NFL in Vegas at all. I'm not going to Vegas to watch a football game. It's also going to make my hotel more expensive and make Las Vegasians (?) into Raider shitbags. Fuck me.

Uh, Vegas IS getting hockey...

[Nickhead]

An open air stadium in Vegas? The first month of games willll be 100 degrees out

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call it an extended preseason :D

[Deberg_1990]

Hell yes. I'm there

[GloucesterChief]

An open air stadium in Vegas? The first month of games willll be 100 degrees out

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Not as bad as: Houston, Miami, DC, Baltimore, Tampa, and Jacksonville.

Dry heat is much easier to deal with then humid heat.

[DaNewGuy]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17600860/group-offers-buy-coliseum-keep-raiders-oakland

[The Franchise]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17600860/group-offers-buy-coliseum-keep-raiders-oakland

Fuck that. Get out of Oakland.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

**** that. Get out of Oakland.

Why would you want to purchase a broken toilet?

[scho63]

It certainly just took a big step forward!

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The Raiders were just gifted $750 million by Nevada. What does it mean for the Oakland A’s?


http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/10/12/the-raiders-were-just-gifted-750-million-by-nevada-what-does-it-mean-for-the-oakland-as/

By Craig CalcaterraOct 12, 2016, 12:24 PM EDT

We’ve been watching the stadium situation in Oakland for years now. For all that watching nothing has happened for the Oakland Athletics, however, because they are basically held hostage by entities who are not the Oakland Athletics.

They couldn’t move to San Jose like they and San Jose wanted to because of the San Francisco Giants and Major League Baseball’s antitrust law-immune territory system. Likewise, they have been delayed in finding any solution in Oakland because the Oakland Raiders are also looking for someplace new to play and they and the NFL simply suck up more oxygen than the A’s do, meaning that the A’s have had to bide their time and wait to see what develops with the football team.

Now something is developing. The Raiders have been in discussions with Las Vegas for a good while now, and have seemed poised to move there if they can get the money for a new stadium. Money which no one in California is willing to give them because California is one of the few places in America that has woken up to how bad a deal it is to give professional sports teams free stadiums. But Nevada is still sleeping:

The Nevada Senate approved a plan Tuesday to spend $750 million in public funds for a new stadium in hopes of luring the Oakland Raiders to Las Vegas, despite critics saying the deal “is deeply flawed.”

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval called a special session that began Monday in Carson City so lawmakers could take up a bill that would finance a $1.9 billion stadium off the Las Vegas Strip by providing $750 million from bonds that would be repaid with new revenue raised from a hotel tax.

Whether the Raiders move, ProFootballTalk’s Mike Florio explains, is dependent upon the votes of the other NFL owners, several of whom are opposed to having a team in Las Vegas. The NFL is not like Major League Baseball, however, and owners have been known to go rogue in the past, suing to move despite league opposition and, in some cases, being successful in doing it. Heck, the Raiders themselves have done it before.

What does this all mean for the A’s? Well, if the Raiders do get to take that three quarters of a billion Nevada is foolishly giving them and move away from the Bay Area, the prospects for a new ballpark in Oakland are substantially better. Oakland has said at various times it wants both the A’s and the Raiders, but they’ve likewise noted that only one team is going to be able to get the sort of public accommodations a stadium would require, even if the construction of the place itself would be financed with private money.

For what it’s worth, Rob Manfred said this week that Oakland officials have privately told him that baseball is the city’s priority over football, and suggested that if the Raiders moved, the A’s new ballpark, wherever it is, could finally become a reality as opposed to the theoretical construct it has been for a good decade.

Good luck with that, A’s. And good luck giving the Raiders millions and millions of dollars to relocate, Nevada. That has never come back to bite anyone in the past. Like, ever.

[GloryDayz]

I can't imagine any team would choose to stay in Oakland instead of move to Vegas. It's only a matter of time.

[jdubya]

I'm against it. Vegas Raiders sounds like an arena football team. If I had the power and the Raiders had to go to Vegas, I'd retire the name, logo and black and silver and close the book. Put the real Raiders in the history books. Whatever team arrives in Vegas, let them start brand new. Every nation has a capital. The capital of Raider Nation is Oakland. Oakland was the life blood of the old badass Raiders. If they go to Vegas, just retire the name. It's over. The fans in Vegas will be transient. Roughly half will be for the Raiders and the other half will be whatever team is visiting in town. If the Raiders really leave Oakland, I bid Bowl Cut Tommy Boy Mark Davis a proud middle finger salute and he can kiss my ass.

[kcpasco]

Cheap flight to watch the Chiefs once a year and party for a weekend, I love it. Half the stadium will be opposing fans for that reason.

[Nickhead]

this

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/63618452.jpg

[scho63]

I bet that during every Raiders home games in Vegas, crime spikes that weekend!

Over/under +15%

[OctoberFart]

I'm against it. Vegas Raiders sounds like an arena football team. If I had the power and the Raiders had to go to Vegas, I'd retire the name, logo and black and silver and close the book. Put the real Raiders in the history books. Whatever team arrives in Vegas, let them start brand new. Every nation has a capital. The capital of Raider Nation is Oakland. Oakland was the life blood of the old badass Raiders. If they go to Vegas, just retire the name. It's over. The fans in Vegas will be transient. Roughly half will be for the Raiders and the other half will be whatever team is visiting in town. If the Raiders really leave Oakland, I bid Bowl Cut Tommy Boy Mark Davis a proud middle finger salute and he can kiss my ass.

You do realize the Raiders have left Oakland before right? If Oakland won't give the team a new stadium, time to go where we can have an great one.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

This is the only reason they are 4-1...sad

[Nzoner]

I bet that during every Raiders home games in Vegas, crime spikes that weekend!

Over/under +15%

Having been to Vegas on numerous occasions during the NFL season the amount of Raider fans is already sick.I even had the pleasure(total sarcasm) one Monday night to encounter a group of real deal Raider fans and promptly STFU and exited to another sportsbook,those are some scary ****ers.

[ChiefsLV]

I'm going to be living in the middle of raider nation now, FML.

[ClevelandBronco]

This is the only reason they are 4-1...sad

Truly. Maybe the NFL would arrange more Chiefs wins if Clark threatened to move the team to Branson.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You are being built up early to be fed to them, so might want to lay off the PA

[Reerun_KC]

I hope they do move. I'm in Vegas a ton and would love to catch a chiefs game out there.

[scho63]

Having been to Vegas on numerous occasions during the NFL season the amount of Raider fans is already sick.I even had the pleasure(total sarcasm) one Monday night to encounter a group of real deal Raider fans and promptly STFU and exited to another sportsbook,those are some scary ****ers.

They were probably on a weekend furlough......:D

[New World Order]

I'm going to be living in the middle of raider nation now, FML.


Invest in a good security system.

[GloryDayz]

I'm going to be living in the middle of raider nation now, FML.

Shoot first and don't ask ask any questions, nobody will come looking for them because nobody loves them.

[R8RFAN]

The Oakland Raiders have released the following statement.

"I would like to thank Governor Sandoval, the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee, and the members of the Nevada Legislature on this historic day, " said Raiders owner Mark Davis. "All parties have worked extremely hard to develop and approve this tremendous stadium project that will serve as a proud new home for the entire Raider Nation."
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-Statement/fdcf6280-2479-440b-b7f5-8f77cc5f887e?sf38907337=1

[DaneMcCloud]

I think that this is a great move for the NFL but I'm not so sure it's a great move for the Raiders team.

Chargers and Rams games are at least 40% in favor of the opponent. I've actually been to Chargers games when there were more Chiefs fans than Chargers fans. The same thing happens when the Raiders visit San Diego. It's at least 50/50, if not more, slanted in favor of the Raiders.

I can easily see that trend extend to Las Vegas and hell, it might even be worse.

I'm not sure how that helps the team on the field.

[NWTF]

I think that this is a great move for the NFL but I'm not so sure it's a great move for the Raiders team.

Chargers and Rams games are at least 40% in favor of the opponent. I've actually been to Chargers games when there were more Chiefs fans than Chargers fans. The same thing happens when the Raiders visit San Diego. It's at least 50/50, if not more, slanted in favor of the Raiders.

I can easily see that trend extend to Las Vegas and hell, it might even be worse.

I'm not sure how that helps the team on the field.

It wont help, but it probably wont be detrimental to them. If they end up sucking on the field then that issue will be in the forefront, but as far as selling tickets goes Vegas should fair better than Oakland if the team is sh1t. There are a handful of teams in the NFL that have a national fan base. The Raiders are one of them. Put it this way if the Raiders are winning they are a natural bandwagon magnet like the Cowboys, Steelers, Packers.

They already have a fan base there. When I lived in Nevada the Raiders were probably the most followed team followed by the 49ers, Broncos and of course the Cowboys.

[Scorp]

I think that this is a great move for the NFL but I'm not so sure it's a great move for the Raiders team.

Chargers and Rams games are at least 40% in favor of the opponent. I've actually been to Chargers games when there were more Chiefs fans than Chargers fans. The same thing happens when the Raiders visit San Diego. It's at least 50/50, if not more, slanted in favor of the Raiders.

I can easily see that trend extend to Las Vegas and hell, it might even be worse.

I'm not sure how that helps the team on the field.

Nobody gives a flying fuck what you think McDouche!

[DaneMcCloud]

They already have a fan base there. When I lived in Nevada the Raiders were probably the most followed team followed by the 49ers, Broncos and of course the Cowboys.

The issue isn't so much with the "fan base" as much as it is with the ticket scalpers.

I don't know what it's like where you live but it's a full on business here. I'm sure the PSL's will be outrageously priced, leaving the brokers to buy up a huge portion of the seats and sell them at exorbitant prices.

People looking to take a vacation won't care about the prices but the locals will.

[notorious]

Great. Now when I am rolling craps I will be surrounded by villainous scum.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This seems like a good opportunity for Raider fans to finally have a good reason to leave the shit hole that IS Oakland.

They should be thrilled.

Thrilled I say!

[ChiefsCountry]

Cowboys and Patriots like the idea. Means it will probably be happening.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/11/patriots-cowboys-ready-to-support-raiders-move-to-las-vegas/

[Bowser]

Need more Vegas trips and less London trips. /NFL owners

[ptlyon]

SO happy to get their consent

[DaneMcCloud]

Las Vegas doesn't help the owners when renegotiating their next TV deal in 2020, as Oakland is the 6th largest media market and Vegas is the 40th.

TV money rules all, so it may not be shocking to see this voted down.

[Prison Bitch]

Need more Vegas trips and less London trips. /NFL owners

That basically ends this thread

[Prison Bitch]

Las Vegas doesn't help the owners when renegotiating their next TV deal in 2020, as Oakland is the 6th largest media market and Vegas is the 40th.

TV money rules all, so it may not be shocking to see this voted down.

Don't peddle that nonsense, Oakland isn't the 6th largest market. It's part of the Bay which is already covered by the 49ers. If Oakland leaves it won't mean the #6 market is empty, GMAFB

[Hoover]

Every owner likes this idea because it will make more money for the league.

Plus you end up changing the ownership of the team a bit.

[Rooster]

I hope they stay in Oakland. They belong in Oakland IMO.

[RobBlake]

I just dont like a professional team in the betting mecca of the world.

[Hamwallet]

I just dont like a professional team in the betting mecca of the world.

I do. Hopefully Missouri will allow a sports books in our casinos finally. I have no use for them right now. But let me bet on sports and my ass will be hanging out all the time with friends betting on games and having some drinks.

[DaneMcCloud]

Don't peddle that nonsense, Oakland isn't the 6th largest market. It's part of the Bay which is already covered by the 49ers. If Oakland leaves it won't mean the #6 market is empty, GMAFB

Hey dipshit, San Fran-Oakland-San Jose make up the 6th largest media market in the US.

The Raiders will be going from the #6 to the #40.

And I hope you realize that not everyone in the Bay area is a 49ers fan or an Oakland fan. Plus, they're not in the same division, so if the Raiders go from the #6 market to the #40, the owners won't have as much leverage when it comes to renegotiating the next TV deal.

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/tv-station-directory/dma

[DaneMcCloud]

Every owner likes this idea because it will make more money for the league.

How in the world will it "make money for the league"?

[ChiefsCountry]

Raiders filed the paperwork today.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18510214/oakland-raiders-file-paperwork-nfl-relocation-las-vegas

[Rooster]

Raiders filed the paperwork today.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18510214/oakland-raiders-file-paperwork-nfl-relocation-las-vegas

What's the over/under on spelling mistakes on said paperwork?

[GloryDayz]

What's the over/under on spelling mistakes on said paperwork?

The NFL wants it, it'll go un-called.

[chiefzilla1501]

God I hate this ridiculous idea. The nfl has lost their soul. And they wonder why they're losing viewers.

Putting a storied franchise into a tourist trap is the dumbest idea for anyone who actually cares about football.

[Rooster]

God I hate this ridiculous idea. The nfl has lost their soul. And they wonder why they're losing viewers.

Putting a storied franchise into a tourist trap is the dumbest idea for anyone who actually cares about football.

Me too. I have a healthy disliking for all they stand for but their fans don't deserve this. They belong in Oakland.

And the Chargers belong in San Diego too.

And while we're at it the Cardinals belong in St Louis. Ok rant over.

[KChiefs1]

Cowboys and Patriots like the idea. Means it will probably be happening.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/11/patriots-cowboys-ready-to-support-raiders-move-to-las-vegas/



The deal is done.




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[KChiefs1]

Need more Vegas trips and less London trips. /NFL fans


FYP




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[Rain Man]

Me too. I have a healthy disliking for all they stand for but their fans don't deserve this. They belong in Oakland.

And the Chargers belong in San Diego too.

And while we're at it the Cardinals belong in St Louis. Ok rant over.

The Cardinals should be in Chicago, I think.

[DaNewGuy]

The Cardinals should be in Chicago, I think.

Then should the Bears relocate to Phoenix ?

[Rain Man]

Then should the Bears relocate to Phoenix ?

The Bears might have been there before the Cardinals, so Chicago would have two teams like they do in baseball and major drug gangs.

[Chief Pagan]

And the Chiefs should go back to Dallas...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And the Chiefs should go back to Dallas...

If it weren't for the Cowboys, they never would have left I assure you.

[Deberg_1990]

The Ravens should be back in Cleveland!!!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

When the legal toothless whores come a knock in, Freighters big rig will be rockin

[SAUTO]

The Bears might have been there before the Cardinals, so Chicago would have two teams like they do in baseball and major drug gangs.

Pretty sure there are four major drug gangs in Chicago

[DaneMcCloud]

What a piece of shit owner and organization

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-want-to-play-in-1-9-billion-las-vegas-stadium-for-1-per-year/

Raiders want to play in $1.9 billion Las Vegas stadium for $1 per year

If the Raiders relocate, they'll transition from the older, rugged Coliseum in Oakland to a shiny, new, and expensive stadium in Las Vegas. While that stadium will cost a ton of money to build, it might not cost the Raiders much to actually occupy it. On Thursday, the Raiders filed a proposed lease to the Las Vegas Stadium Authority. As the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported, the Raiders proposed to pay $1 in annual rent. To be clear, that's $1 a year to play football in a $1.9 billion stadium. As the Review-Journal pointed out, the amount of money teams spend on rent varies across the league. The 49ers pay more than $20 million, the Seahawks pay $1 million, and some teams don't pay anything. For what it's worth, the Raiders spent $3.5 million on rent in 2016. But there's a bigger financial issue that needs to be resolved, and it has nothing to do with rent. If you're still wondering how the $1.9 billion stadium will be paid for, you're not alone. As the Mercury News reported, the funding is still in question. To be exact, $650 million is still up in the air:

The current deal includes $750 million from a hotel tax approved by lawmakers and signed by Gov. Brian Sandoval and a $500 million contribution from the Raiders and NFL. But the sticking point has been a $650 million investment from the Adelson family, which owns the Las Vegas Sands Corporation.

The relationship with billionaire Sheldon Adelson remains a hurdle because NFL rules prohibit casino owners from having an ownership stake in a team. The Adelson family wants a percentage of the Raiders as part of the stadium deal.

Of course, the Raiders could still remain in Oakland. Earlier this month, NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported that the Raiders are planning to file relocation paperwork, but the team still needs the NFL owners to approve the move in late March. They'd need 24 owners to vote in favor of relocation in order to move.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Digging through the draft of the Raiders&#39; use agreement with the Stadium Authority and found this nugget: <a href="https://t.co/ORLFK7vSk2">pic.twitter.com/ORLFK7vSk2</a></p>&mdash; Jackie Valley (@JackieValley) <a href="https://twitter.com/JackieValley/status/824750061233938432">January 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Buck]

What a piece of shit owner and organization

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-want-to-play-in-1-9-billion-las-vegas-stadium-for-1-per-year/

Raiders want to play in $1.9 billion Las Vegas stadium for $1 per year

If the Raiders relocate, they'll transition from the older, rugged Coliseum in Oakland to a shiny, new, and expensive stadium in Las Vegas. While that stadium will cost a ton of money to build, it might not cost the Raiders much to actually occupy it. On Thursday, the Raiders filed a proposed lease to the Las Vegas Stadium Authority. As the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported, the Raiders proposed to pay $1 in annual rent. To be clear, that's $1 a year to play football in a $1.9 billion stadium. As the Review-Journal pointed out, the amount of money teams spend on rent varies across the league. The 49ers pay more than $20 million, the Seahawks pay $1 million, and some teams don't pay anything. For what it's worth, the Raiders spent $3.5 million on rent in 2016. But there's a bigger financial issue that needs to be resolved, and it has nothing to do with rent. If you're still wondering how the $1.9 billion stadium will be paid for, you're not alone. As the Mercury News reported, the funding is still in question. To be exact, $650 million is still up in the air:

The current deal includes $750 million from a hotel tax approved by lawmakers and signed by Gov. Brian Sandoval and a $500 million contribution from the Raiders and NFL. But the sticking point has been a $650 million investment from the Adelson family, which owns the Las Vegas Sands Corporation.

The relationship with billionaire Sheldon Adelson remains a hurdle because NFL rules prohibit casino owners from having an ownership stake in a team. The Adelson family wants a percentage of the Raiders as part of the stadium deal.

Of course, the Raiders could still remain in Oakland. Earlier this month, NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported that the Raiders are planning to file relocation paperwork, but the team still needs the NFL owners to approve the move in late March. They'd need 24 owners to vote in favor of relocation in order to move.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Digging through the draft of the Raiders&#39; use agreement with the Stadium Authority and found this nugget: <a href="https://t.co/ORLFK7vSk2">pic.twitter.com/ORLFK7vSk2</a></p>&mdash; Jackie Valley (@JackieValley) <a href="https://twitter.com/JackieValley/status/824750061233938432">January 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I don't see the problem with that. The city of Las Vegas will make its money back and thensome within the next 2 billion years.

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't see the problem with that. The city of Las Vegas will make its money back and thensome within the next 2 billion years.

You don't see a "problem" with an NFL team paying in $1 in rent to a city that just built a $1.9 billion dollar stadium that will use it, at most, 13 days a year?

What?

The Seahawks pay $1 million. The 49ers pay $20 million.

The Raiders only want to spend $1 dollar.

:facepalm:

[Bowser]

http://www.timeoutabudhabi.com/images/content/59632/2015_moneyfilms_3_base.jpg

(and I think Buck was being a touch sarcastic, with his 2 billion years comment and all ;) )

[DaneMcCloud]

(and I think Buck was being a touch sarcastic, with his 2 billion years comment and all ;) )

Yeah, I just caught that.

Quoting giant text, then making a quick comment?

;tldr

[RippedmyFlesh]

Yeah, I just caught that.

Quoting giant text, then making a quick comment?

;tldr

The article said some teams don't pay any rent. I wonder if they own the stadiums they play in.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Tired of these billionaires begging for handouts. Fuck this league.