Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning will retire Monday, Broncos confirm

[Donger]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/broncos/denver-broncos-quarterback-peyton-manning-will-retire-monday-reports-say

One month after winning the Super Bowl, Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning will retire, the Broncos have confirmed.

On February 7, Manning and the Broncos won the Super Bowl. On March 7, Manning is expected to hold a news conference at the Broncos team headquarters to formally announce his retirement.

Manning played 18 seasons in the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts and the Denver Broncos.

He's the NFL’s only five-time Most Valuable Player whose 14 Pro Bowl selections are tied for the most in league history, according to the Broncos. Manning was also a Super Bowl MVP and a seven-time first-team All-Pro. His team made the playoffs in 15 of his 18 seasons, according to ESPN.

Manning was drafted by Indianapolis as the 1st overall pick in 1998 NFL draft. He played 13 seasons for the Colts before multiple neck surgeries forced him to sit out the 2011 season.

When the Colts cut Manning, he joined the Broncos as an unrestricted free agent on March 20, 2012.

When the Broncos announced the move, owner Pat Bowlen said, "Peyton is one of the best ever to play this game. I feel very fortunate to have him here."

"Our goal has always been to win Super Bowls," Bowlen said in 2012. "Peyton gives us a chance to win another World Championship."

And Manning did just that.

Manning played four seasons with the Broncos. The Broncos made two Super Bowl trips in those four years, losing one game and winning that World Championship Bowlen wanted last month against the Carolina Panthers.

Manning said he picked the Broncos back in 2012 because, "This truly is a special football environment and I am glad to be part of it."

Even in 2012, Denver Broncos general manager John Elway said, "I know he's going to play great football. We believe he can play as long as he wants."

It appears that Manning would play four more years until a rough season in 2015. Manning was benched in mid-November after throwing four interceptions against the Kansas City Chiefs. After the game, Manning sat our several weeks with torn plantar fascia in his right foot. Manning returned in the final game of the season, replacing a then-struggling Brock Osweiler, to beat the San Diego Chargers. Manning never looked back, winning playoffs games against the Pittsburgh Steelers and New England Patriots, before winning Super Bowl 50.

[Pablo]

Fuck off into the sunset old man.

[ClevelandBronco]

Fun ride. Thanks for the parade.

[Kman34]

ESPN doing a full on dick suck on Manning right now.....Unwatchable...

[Deberg_1990]

Ding dong the witch is dead!

[Red Dawg]

Fun ride. Thanks for the parade.

As if his sorry ass had anything to do with it. Luck is all it was. Lucky all the other teams had key injuries. Worst and most pathedic champ of all time. Joke of a team that couldn't score with the worst QB in the league trying to lose every game with pathedic totally gone skills.

Go fuck your self sideways with the tropphy that your city does not deserve.

[Red Dawg]

ESPN doing a full on dick suck on Manning right now.....Unwatchable...

I can't stand Brady but anyone that claims he is not better than Manning is a homer. If Brady was a Bronco this year they would have gone undefeated.

[Scooter LaCanforno]

Great. Now we'll have to see a giant forehead on the pregame shows, for the next few years.

[BlackHelicopters]

Any tall clock towers nearby ?

[vailpass]

As if his sorry ass had anything to do with it. Luck is all it was. Lucky all the other teams had key injuries. Worst and most pathedic champ of all time. Joke of a team that couldn't score with the worst QB in the league trying to lose every game with pathedic totally gone skills.

Go **** your self sideways with the tropphy that your city does not deserve.

Agreed, pathedic. Totally pathedic.

[Chief Northman]

As if his sorry ass had anything to do with it. Luck is all it was. Lucky all the other teams had key injuries. Worst and most pathedic champ of all time. Joke of a team that couldn't score with the worst QB in the league trying to lose every game with pathedic totally gone skills.

Go **** your self sideways with the tropphy that your city does not deserve.

:clap:

[Gonzo]

Pathedic: adj. a secondary homosexual journey of self discovery likely relating somehow to Mike Tyson.

"Tommy was going to take the closest path to the flopping penisis but decided to take the pathedic route instead."

[rabblerouser]

Agreed, pathedic. Totally pathedic.

ROFL

[BigRichard]

https://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-25-2014/fWx327.gif

[Al Bundy]

All day suck off of Manning on NFL Radio. Going to have to avoid it for 2 or 3 weeks.

[Mile High Mania]

That HOF class in 5 years could be sweet. Woodson, Manning, Johnson... top notch.

[MMXcalibur]

Thank Christ.

[MMXcalibur]

That HOF class in 5 years could be sweet. Woodson, Manning, Johnson... top notch.

Johnson =/= first ballot

[Aries Walker]

I can't deride the guy. The NFL is losing one of its greats in his retirement; the only reason I don't like him is because he'd kick our ass all the time.

[SAUTO]

As if his sorry ass had anything to do with it. Luck is all it was. Lucky all the other teams had key injuries. Worst and most pathedic champ of all time. Joke of a team that couldn't score with the worst QB in the league trying to lose every game with pathedic totally gone skills.

Go fuck your self sideways with the tropphy that your city does not deserve.
T. Use it

[BlackHelicopters]

Interviewing parents who named their son Peyton . What the fuck is wrong with people?

[Bowser]

I can't deride the guy. The NFL is losing one of its greats in his retirement; the only reason I don't like him is because he'd kick our ass all the time.

All of this. He single handedly revolutionized the position, broke nearly all the meaningful records, and is a lock as a first ballot Hall of Famer.

HOWEVER

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[Bugeater]

Pathedic: adj. a secondary homosexual journey of self discovery likely relating somehow to Mike Tyson.

"Tommy was going to take the closest path to the flopping penisis but decided to take the pathedic route instead."
That definitely describes the Broncos.

[Rain Man]

And stay out.

[Quesadilla Joe]

http://www.wthr.com/story/31399040/kravitz-an-open-letter-to-peyton-manning-on-his-retirement

KRAVITZ: An open letter to Peyton Manning on his retirement...

When Peyton Manning learns that another NFL star is retiring from the game, he makes a point to take pen to paper and write that player a long, congratulatory letter on his career and the mark he made on the game. Sunday, we learned that which was inevitable; Manning himself is going to retire and make it official during a Monday press conference in Denver. I am quite sure several NFL players will reach out to Manning, through social media or even in an old-fashioned letter, but I wanted to write my own digital letter, of sorts.

Dear Peyton,

Andrew Luck’s agent here. Remember the latter stages of the 2011 season when I’d approach your locker and you’d crack a broad smile and say, "Hey, it’s Andrew Luck’s agent"? I’m quite sure that it bothered you a little bit that I was pushing for the Colts to start over with Luck – at last check, I wrote about 412 columns about it – but I never sensed there was a lot of anger behind the barb. Fact is, our relationship only grew after that, and I will always appreciate the fact that you entrusted me to objectively tell your side of the story during the divorce proceedings with the Colts.

But enough about that.

You know this; heck, everybody knows this: You’re leaving at precisely the right time. In 98 percent of cases, the game retires the player, robs him of his health or his ability to help a team win football games. But you’ve always been the exception to the rule. You’re not leaving too early, not leaving too late. This is just right, walking off into one of those brilliant Denver sunsets over the Rocky Mountains, a second Lombardi in hand, your mind-boggling legacy fully completed. If there’s a record for men at your position, you own it. Not to mention those two Super Bowls.

What blows me away, though, even more than what you accomplished on the field in Indianapolis, is the way you forged that second act in your career. Very few people in any line of business have a second act, and even fewer get to enjoy a renaissance in a sport as brutish as football. To think that you could come back after four neck surgeries and sundry other injuries, and win more MVP’s and reach more Super Bowls, finally winning that one this year over Carolina, is mind-boggling. Normal people don’t do that. You’re not normal, and I say that as nicely as I can possibly mean it.

I’m guessing that for most Colts fans, their enduring memory will be your performance in the second half of the AFC Championship Game victory over the New England Patriots, coming back from a 21-6 deficit, exorcising all the old demons along the way. And there was that self-satisfied grin on your face when you held up the Lombardi in the rain in Miami, a champion then and forever, an exclamation point on an already-brilliant career.

I would acknowledge that on the field, that New England game is the one that lives on in my mind’s eye. But after maintaining a professional relationship with you over the years, I have different sorts of memories from your time here.

Many, many years ago, I wrote a piece (or the Indianapolis Star wrote the piece; I can’t recall) about a child from the Brownsburg Little League team who suffered horrific injuries in a skateboard accident. The day the story appeared, I got one of those calls from "unknown number" and there you were, asking if I had the family’s number.

"Do you think they’d mind if I called and lent them my support?" you asked.

I laughed, said they’d be thrilled to hear from you.

"Oh, and don’t write it, OK?" he asked.

Sorry, Peyton. I lied. I’m writing it. And I’m writing it because that’s what you did and what you do, and you do it routinely, all outside the glare of the media spotlight.

Last year, I wrote a piece about a Terre Haute woman who was dying of cancer, only had a few months, maybe weeks to live. She told me one of her last wishes was to actually speak to you.

A week later, I got an e-mail from her friend to say that you had called this dying woman and had absolutely made her day.

We all know about the PeyBack Foundation and the Peyton Manning Children’s Hospital, but it would require a 500-page opus to fully chronicle all of the good works you’ve done, whether it’s been here or Denver or Tennessee or New Orleans or wherever people are hurting.

Some other memories, vignettes:

I can remember one day at training camp, we were sitting in a golf cart, and we must have talked for about 45 minutes about autographs. You kept insisting that it was important to write your name legibly, and not in chicken scratch, because people wanted to be able to say, "Look, I got Peyton Manning’s autograph." Your dad taught you that, along with lots of other things about being a professional. I kept thinking, "Who spends time thinking about the quality of their autograph?" And then the answer dawned on me: You do.

Then there was the day you called me out of nowhere, and man, you were HOT. I can’t remember what you were angry about, but I’m sure it was something I had written. So we went back and forth, both of us getting more and more ticked off, and at one point I said, "Y’know, Peyton, that’s absolute bull----." Well, my older daughter was walking by my home office at that moment, she looked at me in amazement and mouthed the words, "Peyton Manning?" And the funny thing is, we came to a meeting of the minds and our relationship was never better than it was after that little tiff.

I remember a couple of years ago, I threw a Hail Mary and wondered if you might be in Indianapolis to play in my annual ALS golf tournament. You answered that you couldn’t make it, but wondered if it would help if you sent an autographed helmet for the auction.

Umm…yeah, that would be OK. We made a mint on that autographed helmet.

You didn’t just throw passes and win games in Indianapolis; you left a footprint. You became the athletic standard bearer for this community. Reggie Miller was great, Tamika Catchings is a civic blessing who is too often under-valued, but I think we can all agree, you were the most impactful athlete and civic citizen ever to come through these parts. And folks around here, they never forgot. Even after you went to the Denver Broncos, Indianapolis fans followed. When you won the most recent Super Bowl, people around here felt proud and proprietary, even if you were wearing Bronco orange. The truth is, you’ve never stopped being one of us.

From a football standpoint, these things almost go without saying: Without you, the Colts are probably in Los Angeles. Without you, Lucas Oil Stadium never gets built. Without you, high school football doesn’t become a prime recruiting ground for big-time programs. Without you, we don’t have about 10,000 little Peytons, boys and girls, walking around this town.

We all know you will be a first-ballot Hall of Famer and a soon-to-be member of the Colts Ring of Honor, but I’d take it a step further: I firmly believe there should be a Peyton Manning statue outside of Lucas Oil Stadium. If not you, then who? Who has done more for this franchise? Who will EVER do more for this franchise?

You didn’t just change Indy, lead the transition from a basketball town to a football town. You changed the game, the NFL game. True, John Unitas was at the forefront of calling plays at the line of scrimmage and using his mind as well as his arm, but you took preparation and the cerebral game to an altogether new level. It was actually kind of comical, watching you do that bizarre St. Vitus dance at the line of scrimmage, gyrating, waving, leading the orchestra like some manic maestro. But there was a method to the madness. Yours was and continues to be a beautiful football mind. And they love you in Omaha.

Anyway, I’m rambling here. I wish I could be in Denver Monday, just to shake your hand and tell you what an honor and privilege it’s been watching you perform and chronicling your feats. I always cherished our professional relationship, even when you were calling me "Andrew Luck’s agent." And for the record, I haven’t gotten dime from Luck for all my hard work.

All the best to you and your family,

BK

[New World Order]

No one will read that Noblow.

[LoneWolf]

http://i.imgur.com/rtiA6.jpg

[ClevelandBronco]

No one will read that Noblow.

I read it. Hell of a column by a hell of a writer. (We worked in the same newsroom back in the day. Hi, Bob.)

Thanks, KnowMo. I'd have missed it otherwise.

[GloucesterChief]

That author must not of watched the same NFL season everybody else did. Peyton was horrible. He was just lucky that Denver's D was very good and did a lot of scoring on their own.

[saphojunkie]

At least ESPN won't make a big deal out of this.

[New World Order]

I read it. Hell of a column by a hell of a writer. (We worked in the same newsroom back in the day. Hi, Bob.)

Thanks, KnowMo. I'd have missed it otherwise.



LMAO

[Kman34]

At least ESPN won't make a big deal out of this.

Yeah...I think the NFL Network has "A Football Life" for Manning ready to go this week....

[Toby Waller]

It will be interesting to notice who gets to be the next big thing.
What the new media spin?
Is he in this year's draft?
How hard do they push A. Rodgers?

[Coochie liquor]

It will be interesting to notice who gets to be the next big thing.
What the new media spin?
Is he in this year's draft?
How hard do they push A. Rodgers?

Rodgers, Luck, Wilson, whoever the Cowboys draft....

[Kman34]

It will be interesting to notice who gets to be the next big thing.
What the new media spin?
Is he in this year's draft?
How hard do they push A. Rodgers?

It's going to the summer of Brady again.... especially if a suspension is looming.... other than that I bet they start pushing Luck hard...

[Quesadilla Joe]

It will be interesting to notice who gets to be the next big thing.
What the new media spin?
Is he in this year's draft?
How hard do they push A. Rodgers?

It's Cam.

[Steron]

One of the best regular season QBs ever. A true student of the game. Tireless worker. Inflated numbers from playing in an anti-defense era. Awful he finished up winning a SB for the Donks.

[big nasty kcnut]

NFL Records Peyton Manning holds:

-Career passing yards
-Career one and dones
-Biggest commercial whore, all-time
-Largest forehead

[Toby Waller]

It's going to the summer of Brady again.... especially if a suspension is looming.... other than that I bet they start pushing Luck hard...

I mean aside from who you know now.

[Rain Man]

NFL Records Peyton Manning holds:

-Career passing yards
-Career one and dones
-Biggest commercial whore, all-time
-Largest forehead


He was only one short of tying Elway's record for most Super Bowl wins due to cheating.

[Kman34]

I mean aside from who you know now.

Connor Cook has the clean-cut style that ESPN creams their jeans for....

[listopencil]

He was only one short of tying Elway's record for most Super Bowl wins due to cheating.

http://littlefun.org/uploads/52266889e691b23893883a92_736.jpg

[Pasta Little Brioni]

That author must not of watched the same NFL season everybody else did. Peyton was horrible. He was just lucky that Denver's D was very good and did a lot of scoring on their own.

That was an 8-8 team without ridiculous calls gifted to them to cement his swan song

[Toby Waller]

Connor Cook has the clean-cut style that ESPN creams their jeans for....

Cook isn't a sexy enough last name

[DaneMcCloud]

Fuck Peyton Manning.

Biggest overhyped douchefuck in modern history.

His Colts teams were mediocre. He choked in the playoffs too many times to count and his Super Bowl stats are pathetic.

Good riddance.

[Rain Man]

**** Peyton Manning.

Biggest overhyped douche**** in modern history.

His Colts teams were mediocre. He choked in the playoffs too many times to count and his Super Bowl stats are pathetic.

Good riddance.


The weird thing is that this post could apply exactly to Elway with no word changes at all.

[Toby Waller]

The weird thing is that this post could apply exactly to Elway with no word changes at all.

Or Favre.
And there ain't be nothing you can do about it.

[vailpass]

Best record in the league over the last 4 years.
4 of of 4 AFC championships.
2 Superbowls.
1 Superbowl ring.
Come on 'yall...

[ClevelandBronco]

Three years ago, according to the geniuses on CP, the Broncos totally sucked except for Peyton. This past year, the Broncos sucked because of Peyton. Meanwhile, for the past four years, the rest of the west has done jack shit. I'll tell y'all what: If this is what suck looks like, if the fix is in, I'll take it. It's been fun to watch.

[DaneMcCloud]

Best record in the league over the last 4 years.
4 of of 4 AFC championships.
2 Superbowls.
1 Superbowl ring.
Come on 'yall...

I think Peyton Manning is the most overhyped, overblown QB in the history of the game.

That said, I think Aikman is far from a HOFer.

If Manning had chosen the Chiefs and won a Super Bowl, my opinion wouldn't be any different.

It would also feel hollow.

[DaneMcCloud]

Three years ago, according to the geniuses on CP, the Broncos totally sucked except for Peyton. This past year, the Broncos sucked because of Peyton. Meanwhile, for the past four years, the rest of the west has done jack shit. I'll tell y'all what: If this is what suck looks like, if the fix is in, I'll take it. It's been fun to watch.

The highlight of the 2013 season was watching the Broncos get fucked up the ass, Lexington Steele style, versus the Seahawks.

[Toby Waller]

The highlight of the 2013 season was watching the Broncos get ****ed up the ass, Lexington Steele style, versus the Seahawks.

And they took their millions home and no one cried

[DaneMcCloud]

And they took their millions home and no one cried

Fuck off, you worthless piece of dung.

[Toby Waller]

**** off, you worthless piece of dung.

Of course that's all you have because you know what I said was true.

Go practice your guitar

[DaneMcCloud]

Of course that's all you have because you know what I said was true.

Go practice your guitar

Go fuck your self

[ClevelandBronco]

The highlight of the 2013 season was watching the Broncos get fucked up the ass, Lexington Steele style, versus the Seahawks.

It was fun seeing them come so close to winning it all. Just one game short.

[Toby Waller]

Go **** your self

:cuss:

keep pretending players care about winning and losing

[BigMeatballDave]

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[BigMeatballDave]

:cuss:

keep pretending players care about winning and losing

Yeah, you're right. That's why players want to sign with contenders...

[Mile High Mania]

It's tough watching legends walk away... but, others always fill the void and create new rivalries and new stories. Looking forward to the next group to make their mark.

[cmh6476]

bye, d!ckhead

[Quesadilla Joe]

Manning has arrived for his press conference...

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The conference starts in 30 minutes, you can watch it live here.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/LIVE-Peyton-Manning-retirement-press-conference/8a8cf537-b948-42e2-ac9e-be3ffead823d

[Discuss Thrower]

O/U number of illegitimate children Peyton has sired across the country: 2.5

[Halfcan]

I wish he would state the real reason he is retiring. His head no longer fits in a helmet. With all of his wife's HGH he has taken- Manning's fat head has grown past the Barry Bonds mark.

[GloryDayz]

Funny.. On The Herd a Chiefs fan just called-in and got all but rejected by Colin for asking a question about Denver winning now that PM is done. Basically Colin muted the dude and said that the Chiefs aren't going to win the AFC with a B to B- QB like Alex.

It's maddening to hear stuff like that, but it doesn't go without its merit. And having seen a clip some time before that of some Donk player who was saying he didn't care if he had the franchise tag applied, all he cared about was staying in Denver because the organization will always win, well that was more salt in the wound.

I really wish the Hunts would wake up and realize we aren't the Ravens, we have a very small chance of winning with a sub-superstar QB.

Ugh!

[ClevelandBronco]

Almost time for the press conference. Are everyone's loins all atingle?

[Bowser]

Funny.. On The Herd a Chiefs fan just called-in and got all but rejected by Colin for asking a question about Denver winning now that PM is done. Basically Colin muted the dude and said that the Chiefs aren't going to win the AFC with a B to B- QB like Alex.

It's maddening to hear stuff like that, but it doesn't go without its merit. And having seen a clip some time before that of some Donk player who was saying he didn't care if he had the franchise tag applied, all he cared about was staying in Denver because the organization will always win, well that was more salt in the wound.

I really wish the Hunts would wake up and realize we aren't the Ravens, we have a very small chance of winning with a sub-superstar QB.

Ugh!

Because QB play is what won the Broncos the trophy in 2015, right? Comparatively speaking, Alex Smith played light years better than Peyton did in '15. Cowherd is a moron.

[Bowser]

Almost time for the press conference. Are everyone's loins all atingle?

Yes. Can't wait to see that Cro-Magnon looking bastard make it official.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Manning's retirement press conference starts in 30 minutes, you can watch it live here.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/LIVE-Peyton-Manning-retirement-press-conference/8a8cf537-b948-42e2-ac9e-be3ffead823d

Starting now...

[ClevelandBronco]

Because QB play is what won the Broncos the trophy in 2015, right? Comparatively speaking, Alex Smith played light years better than Peyton did in '15. Cowherd is a moron.

I agree that Cowherd (or anyone else, including Peyton's and Brock's mothers) would be crazy to say that the Broncos got anything out of their quarterbacks this past season that would compare favorablely to Alex Smith. That shouldn't necessarily change his opinion that with all other factors considered, the only way the Chiefs could have a reasonable chance to win the west would be to come to the table with someone far better than Smith.

[staylor26]

I agree that Cowherd (or anyone else, including Peyton's and Brock's mothers) would be crazy to say that the Broncos got anything out of their quarterbacks this past season that would compare favorablely to Alex Smith. That shouldn't necessarily change his opinion that with all other factors considered, the only way the Chiefs could have a reasonable chance to win the west would be to come to the table with someone far better than Smith.

They were one game away with Smith this past year. That's just fucking retarded.

[New World Order]

Knowmo will bawl like a child

[ClevelandBronco]

They were one game away with Smith this past year. That's just fucking retarded.

Yeah, and the Broncos were one game away from winning two of the last three Super Bowls. It is what it is. The Chiefs are what they are.

[staylor26]

Yeah, and the Broncos were one game away from winning two of the last three Super Bowls. It is what it is. The Chiefs are what they are.

And they eventually got over the hump. Terrible example to make your point with. Good luck finding anybody close to Alex Smith. Wonder what that says about your future?

[ClevelandBronco]

Good luck finding anybody close to Alex Smith. Wonder what that says about your future?

Thanks. I appreciate your good wishes. Best of luck to you as well.

[Toby Waller]

Almost time for the press conference. Are everyone's loins all atingle?

why? yours is?

[Mile High Mania]

And they eventually got over the hump. Terrible example to make your point with. Good luck finding anybody close to Alex Smith. Wonder what that says about your future?

Well, if you extrapolate Brock's 2015 production from 8 to 16 games... he has 500 more yards, the same TDs and 5 more INTs than Alex. That's not too shabby considering Alex has about 110 more starts and has been around for a decade.

[BlackHelicopters]

Now Fox Business Channel is joining the jism fest.

[staylor26]

Well, if you extrapolate Brock's 2015 production from 8 to 16 games... he has 500 more yards, the same TDs and 5 more INTs than Alex. That's not too shabby considering Alex has about 110 more starts and has been around for a decade.

Lol too bad it doesn't work like that and Brock got benched his 8th game.

[BigChiefFan]

These punks won the SB and now have more cap space than us.

[ClevelandBronco]

Well, if you extrapolate Brock's 2015 production from 8 to 16 games... he has 500 more yards, the same TDs and 5 more INTs than Alex. That's not too shabby considering Alex has about 110 more starts and has been around for a decade.

Good point, but two things: 1.) Extrapolation only takes you so far. Smith played through the physical toll of 16 games. Ossweiler didn't. 2.) I'm not convinced we haven't seen Brock's last game as a Bronco.

[ClevelandBronco]

why? yours is?

Almost constantly. I'd get it checked out if I didn't like it so much.

[Toby Waller]

Almost constantly. I'd get it checked out if I didn't like it so much.

wrong answer. he's just a jock who threw a ball.

[ClevelandBronco]

wrong answer. he's just a jock who threw a ball.

Wrong assumption as to why my loins tingle most days.

[Discuss Thrower]

Even fucking Bloomberg is reporting on this shit.

[ptlyon]

Wrong assumption as to why my loins tingle most days.

Has to be syphilis

[Al Bundy]

Has to be syphilis
One can only hope.

[GloryDayz]

Because QB play is what won the Broncos the trophy in 2015, right? Comparatively speaking, Alex Smith played light years better than Peyton did in '15. Cowherd is a moron.

Not in the Super Bowl. But your very specific point isn't lost.

[GloryDayz]

And they eventually got over the hump. Terrible example to make your point with. Good luck finding anybody close to Alex Smith. Wonder what that says about your future?

hat scares me is that they will. Not based on the Manning part, but the part where players want to go to Denver because, well, they have a proven track record that shows they'll work to win (at all levels). That might be why the Chiefs were told, "don't call me, I'll call you" when he ended up landing in Denver. I fear they might find one in the draft a'la the Colts who magically jumped from manning to Luck with one season where they focused on others things besides winning and positioned themselves in the draft where they could have their pick from a pretty good litter. Either that or they'll attract the next Manning.

Next year is our year to see if the Alex experiment needs to continue. We should start with all the parts we need in place, and from there if we can avoid injury, there's no reason we shouldn't win the division and move on from there.

We'll see.

[staylor26]

hat scares me is that they will. Not based on the Manning part, but the part where players want to go to Denver because, well, they have a proven track record that shows they'll work to win (at all levels). That might be why the Chiefs were told, "don't call me, I'll call you" when he ended up landing in Denver. I fear they might find one in the draft a'la the Colts who magically jumped from manning to Luck with one season where they focused on others things besides winning and positioned themselves in the draft where they could have their pick from a pretty good litter. Either that or they'll attract the next Manning.

Next year is our year to see if the Alex experiment needs to continue. We should start with all the parts we need in place, and from there if we can avoid injury, there's no reason we shouldn't win the division and move on from there.

We'll see.

There's one decent QB in free agency (other than Brock), and it's Fitzpatrick. They aren't finding the next Peyton anytime soon.

[GloryDayz]

These punks won the SB and now have more cap space than us.

Stunning, isn't it?

[GloryDayz]

There's one decent QB in free agency (other than Brock), and it's Fitzpatrick. They aren't finding the next Peyton anytime soon.

Nope, but the Pats found Brady. Not that they'll find the next Brady, but we can only hope they find the next Bono and stick with him way too long.

[ClevelandBronco]

We can only hope that Kubiak and Elway have some kind of familiarity with the QB position.

[staylor26]

We can only hope that Kubiak and Elway have some kind of familiarity with the QB position.

Above average QB's do not grow on trees.

[ClevelandBronco]

Above average QB's do not grow on trees.

We'll see whether they need an above average quarterback.

[GloryDayz]

Above average QB's do not grow on trees.

But they do grow in wombs...

To think the stork is going to deliver a superstar to our doorstep from a team that's simply got too many, or want a new one, doesn't seem likely.

Near the end of the Alex era the Chiefs are going to have to realize they aren't going to get a Manning or Brady in a trade, that's reserved for the likes of the Denvers of the league, we're going to have to target a draft and make sure we're positioned to draft some kid that seems like the next Joe Montana.

[listopencil]

We'll see whether they need an above average quarterback.

True. When Elway came into the FO, the entire organization was a mess. They have gone from a team that needed a QB like PFM to have a chance to win games to a team that just won the Super Bowl by carrying a retiring Manning through the season. Going forward I expect the D to be worse and the O to be better. We'll see what happens.

[staylor26]

We'll see whether they need an above average quarterback.

Peyton might've been terrible for the most part, but he still saved your season. Brock almost lost everything. To pretend as though QB still isn't a HUGE question mark going forward because you won it without one this year is ignorant. That's without taking into consideration the age of some of your key defensive starters and losing some in free agency.

[DaFace]

I'm not a Manning fan to put it mildly, but I watched a few minutes of his press conference. If nothing else, you have to respect the guy for his love of the game. It was a bit surprising how emotional he seemed about having to hang 'em up.

[Mile High Mania]

Good point, but two things: 1.) Extrapolation only takes you so far. Smith played through the physical toll of 16 games. Ossweiler didn't. 2.) I'm not convinced we haven't seen Brock's last game as a Bronco.

True, but you get the point.

[staylor26]

True, but you get the point.

No because your point is pointless with such a small sample size. I guess Nick Foles and Matt Flynn are better than Alex Smith with that logic.

[ptlyon]

I'm not a Manning fan to put it mildly, but I watched a few minutes of his press conference. If nothing else, you have to respect the guy for his love of the game. It was a bit surprising how emotional he seemed about having to hang 'em up.

BAN THIS TROLL!






:D

[Mile High Mania]

No because your point is pointless with such a small sample size. I guess Nick Foles and Matt Flynn are better than Alex Smith with that logic.

Didn't say he was better. You typed "good luck finding anybody close to Alex Smith"... all I suggested was Brock is close, small sample size or not.

[GloryDayz]

I'm not a Manning fan to put it mildly, but I watched a few minutes of his press conference. If nothing else, you have to respect the guy for his love of the game. It was a bit surprising how emotional he seemed about having to hang 'em up.

Totally this.. I couldn't watch, but there's no doubt that they guy had a passion and a love for the game. He certainly was a huge talent, and his talent always hurt my team, so for that I hate his guts! Even is "leadership" talent was huge, and I think it went a long way to inspiring his fellow team members to the best they can be. I like him better now that he can't hurt us.

[staylor26]

Didn't say he was better. You typed "good luck finding anybody close to Alex Smith"... all I suggested was Brock is close, small sample size or not.

No he's not. You cannot say that yet. I'm sorry.

Alex Smith was a significantly better QB than Peyton last year, so why wouldn't Brock hold onto the job if he really is close to Smith?

[vailpass]

And they eventually got over the hump. Terrible example to make your point with. Good luck finding anybody close to Alex Smith. Wonder what that says about your future?

ROFL

[staylor26]

ROFL

The only funny thing is that you guys believe it's so easy. If anybody knows how hard it is to find even an above average QB, it's us.

[Mile High Mania]

No he's not. You cannot say that yet. I'm sorry.

Alex Smith was a significantly better QB than Peyton last year, so why wouldn't Brock hold onto the job if he really is close to Smith?

He had a crap game and to avoid losing out on the #1 seed, they replaced him... sucks for him, but it worked out for the team.

Brock is young and I think he has decent upside, I have no idea how good or mediocre he'll be at this point. I'd like Denver to resign him for the 3 year deal because the other options kinda suck. But, if they don't get him, so be it - they'll move on.

Alex Smith is a decent QB, middle of the pack kind of guy... suggesting Brock is similar to him shouldn't be a bad thing for Smith. I see how you could view it that way.

[staylor26]

He had a crap game and to avoid losing out on the #1 seed, they replaced him... sucks for him, but it worked out for the team.

Brock is young and I think he has decent upside, I have no idea how good or mediocre he'll be at this point. I'd like Denver to resign him for the 3 year deal because the other options kinda suck. But, if they don't get him, so be it - they'll move on.

Alex Smith is a decent QB, middle of the pack kind of guy... suggesting Brock is similar to him shouldn't be a bad thing for Smith. I see how you could view it that way.

Exactly, so shut the fuck up

[Mile High Mania]

The only funny thing is that you guys believe it's so easy. If anybody knows how hard it is to find even an above average QB, it's us.

There's no doubt KC has fought through many more years of QB issues than Denver. But, I don't think most Denver fans think it's easy to replace a top tier QB.

I know that I don't... Griese, Plummer, Cutler, Orton, Tebow and a few others were mixed in between 1999 and 2011. Granted, that was only 12 years, but it's a long time. Denver got lucky to be in a position to sign Manning, we'll see what happens.

[Mile High Mania]

Exactly, so shut the **** up


ROFL Oh, ok then. The book on Alex is pretty clear, you know what his ceiling is...

[vailpass]

The only funny thing is that you guys believe it's so easy. If anybody knows how hard it is to find even an above average QB, it's us.

It helps if your front office sets it standard somewhat higher than mediocre Alex Smith. You holding him out as some kind of high water mark is amusing.

[staylor26]

It helps if your front office sets it standard somewhat higher than mediocre Alex Smith. You holding him out as some kind of high water mark is amusing.

You're about to sign a guy that's worse than Smith for a shitload of money, so how is your front office any different?

Oh that's right they signed Peyton Manning in free agency a few years back, so they're geniuses that can find a good QB by any means.

:rolleyes:

[Mile High Mania]

You're about to sign a guy that's worse than Smith for a shitload of money, so how is your front office any different?

Oh that's right they signed Peyton Manning in free agency a few years back, so they're geniuses that can find a good QB by any means.

:rolleyes:

8 games... that's all they know about him and in those 8 games he looked 'at worst' to be at least what Alex Smith has proven to be after 11 seasons in the NFL.

The money for QBs is insane, so yeah, they are going to pay him a lot more than he's proven to be worth at this point, but worse than Alex Smith? That remains to be seen.

[staylor26]

8 games... that's all they know about him and in those 8 games he looked 'at worst' to be at least what Alex Smith has proven to be after 11 seasons in the NFL.

The money for QBs is insane, so yeah, they are going to pay him a lot more than he's proven to be worth at this point, but worse than Alex Smith? That remains to be seen.

He's ****ing trash. Your 8 game sample doesn't mean shit. Plenty of QB's have done the same shit in a small sample size only to regress after. Brock was already regressing by game 8 against a shitty Chargers defense that didn't even have their two best players in the secondary (Weddle and Verrett). All that was with a Super Bowl caliber team around him.

[Mile High Mania]

He's ****ing trash. Your 8 game sample doesn't mean shit. Plenty of QB's have done the same shit in a small sample size only to regress after. Brock was already regressing by game 8 against a shitty Chargers defense that didn't even have their two best players in the secondary (Weddle and Verrett). That was with a Super Bowl caliber team around him.

Again, I won't lose too much sleep on this one ... if they resign him, great. If he walks for more money, good luck.

[FloridaMan88]

It helps if your front office sets it standard somewhat higher than mediocre Alex Smith. You holding him out as some kind of high water mark is amusing.

Peyton Manning was a Trent Dilfer-type bystander in Denver's Super Bowl win.

The primary reason Denver won a Super Bowl was because of the aggressive personnel moves Elway made beginning in the 2014 offseason to build a championship caliber defense.

During the 2014 offseason while Elway was aggressively upgrading Denver's defense and adding the likes of Emmanuel Sanders to their offense, the Chiefs sat idle and did virtually nothing.

Some on this board spun it as a "necessary salary cap clean-up" offseason in 2014 for the Chiefs, but the bottom line is the Chiefs have not been aggressive enough during the offseason the way Denver has been.

[vailpass]

You're about to sign a guy that's worse than Smith for a shitload of money, so how is your front office any different?

Oh that's right they signed Peyton Manning in free agency a few years back, so they're geniuses that can find a good QB by any means.

:rolleyes:

After the last 4 years there is literally zero you can say to me about NFL football that it going to concern me in the slightest. I'm playing on house money...

[Toby Waller]

No he's not. You cannot say that yet. I'm sorry.

Alex Smith was a significantly better QB than Peyton last year, so why wouldn't Brock hold onto the job if he really is close to Smith?

he wasnt better,just the same he's always been and it amounted to mostly nothing like it always does.

[ClevelandBronco]

staylor26 operates from the position that a quarterback must be capable of winning games for a team to excel, and so, a team must have an above average quarterback to enjoy above average success. While that may be true for the Chiefs as they're currently assembled, the Broncos proved clearly this past season that having an above average quarterback is but one way to achieve excellence.

[staylor26]

staylor26 operates from the position that a quarterback must be capable of winning games for a team to excel, and so, a team must have an above average quarterback to enjoy above average success. While that may be true for the Chiefs as they're currently assembled, the Broncos proved clearly this past season that having an above average quarterback is but one way to achieve excellence.

You were an exception to the rule this year. Good luck at catching lightning in a bottle for a second time.

[ClevelandBronco]

You were an exception to the rule this year. Good luck at catching lightning in a bottle for a second time.

Once again I thank you for your good wishes. You're a very affable and generous sort.

[dls6501]

You were an exception to the rule this year. Good luck at catching lightning in a bottle for a second time.

Yet you are expecting us to do the same thing? Be an exception to the rule?

I hate taking sides with a Bronco fan over a fellow Chiefs fan, but that's happening here.

[staylor26]

Yet you are expecting us to do the same thing? Be an exception to the rule?

I hate taking sides with a Bronco fan over a fellow Chiefs fan, but that's happening here.

Who said I expect to do the same thing?

I do think that with the offense we've built around him, Alex is capable of playing like an above average QB, but that doesn't mean I expect anything other than to win the division. Anything more than that has to be done before I'll believe it.

[dls6501]

Who said I expect to do the same thing?

I do think that with the offense we've built around him, Alex is capable of playing like an above average QB, but that doesn't mean I expect anything other than to win the division. Anything more than that has to be done before I'll believe it.

That's fair, but I guess I just dont like seeing a Chiefs fan talk down to a fan of any team that won the Superbowl the way Denver just did.....simply because if WE were to win the Superbowl, that is exactly how we would do it.

[staylor26]

That's fair, but I guess I just dont like seeing a Chiefs fan talk down to a fan of any team that won the Superbowl the way Denver just did.....simply because if WE were to win the Superbowl, that is exactly how we would do it.

I couldn't care less about the SB. That season is over and done with. I'm talking about their future and there lack of understanding that now that Manning is gone, QB is a huge question mark. He was terrible for the most part, but he still saved their ass when the guy they're about to break the bank for almost blew it.

[Mile High Mania]

I couldn't care less about the SB. That season is over and done with. I'm talking about their future and there lack of understanding that now that Manning is gone, QB is a huge question mark. He was terrible for the most part, but he still saved their ass when the guy they're about to break the bank for almost blew it.

And, they'll figure something out. They won a playoff game with Tebow... and a SB last year with two QBs that combined for 20 TDs...

[GloryDayz]

There's no doubt KC has fought through many more years of QB issues than Denver. But, I don't think most Denver fans think it's easy to replace a top tier QB.

I know that I don't... Griese, Plummer, Cutler, Orton, Tebow and a few others were mixed in between 1999 and 2011. Granted, that was only 12 years, but it's a long time. Denver got lucky to be in a position to sign Manning, we'll see what happens.

The key is that your owner and GM have proven to not discount the QB position, nor have they shown anything that would lead people to believe they discount the value of a superstar QB or a demand for players to do whatever it takes to win any and every game. So yes PM had a terrible year on the field, but I'm sure he made up for it with leadership in the locker room. But I'll go back to what none of us will probably ever know the truth about, what made PM tell the Chiefs that he'd get back to them, then picked Denver. It wasn't money, it wasn't player potential that would surround him, so it had to be something far less easy to talk about. IOW, maybe it was the history and an overall system.

Alex is NOT a bad guy, but I've never seen him driven to push people to be better then they think they can be. From having a quick "I'm the boss, you're not" chat with players in the huddle (or the sideline), to appearing to be a workaholic student of the game, he's got a ways to go to impress me like a Manning or Brady in the "active" leadership department.

Don't get me wrong, I hate the Donks, Pats, Brady, and Manning, but I'll not lie and say their desire to win isn't at a level we have yet to see here in KC.

[GloryDayz]

I couldn't care less about the SB. That season is over and done with. I'm talking about their future and there lack of understanding that now that Manning is gone, QB is a huge question mark. He was terrible for the most part, but he still saved their ass when the guy they're about to break the bank for almost blew it.

Every year with the Hunts is a new year, just like it has been for the last 47 years. Thus you don't appear to be the only one who isn't concerned with SB appearances and SB wins. Obviously winning the division should be our first goal, then the playoffs/AFCC, but they can't be the final goal, the SB has to be. Until not winning the SB bothers this team's palyers to the point of no sleep in the off season, it might be another 47 years.

I know Lamar is dead (God rest his soul as he dances with angels in heaven), but I hope Clark realizes there's much work to do here, and it all starts with there being one goal, and that's a SB. This year and every year.

And pray for a season where our players don't watch the game from the sideline due to injury. That's just as important...

[Toby Waller]

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what? no reaction?

[Toby Waller]

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[RunKC]

It makes me feel great inside knowing that this chode’s children are HUGE Chiefs fans and he has to deal with it every year

“I actually took my kids to the Chiefs-Browns game a couple weeks ago, sat up there with Eric Stonestreet, that’s Cam from ‘Modern Family,’ who basically looks like Andy Reid, I have to admit. My kids are decked out in Chiefs jerseys. They got Mahomes on, they got Tyreek Hill. (When) your kids are wearing Chiefs jerseys, you’ve just got to suck it up,” Manning said.

KC Wolf approached Manning and one point in hopes of getting a photo. That’s where Manning drew the line.

“Now, I refuse to take a picture with the mascot,” Manning said. “He wanted a picture with me, he got one with my kids I said, ‘No, I’ll do it with my kids. I’m not doing it with the mascot, OK?’ I mean, enough’s enough. Are you kidding me?

“The nerve of that mascot to ask me, but my kids wear Chiefs jerseys to a football game, and then we go skiing this past weekend, and my son’s in a Mahomes jersey to ski in and his buddy Zack is wearing a Mahomes Texas Tech jersey. I mean everywhere I go, it’s Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes. Tells you what kind of great player he is if he’s got some huge 9-year-old fans out here in Denver, Colorado.”


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[ThaVirus]

Makes me feel even better knowing Denver hasn't had a decent QB since this fucker retired

[ROYC75]

It makes me feel great inside knowing that this chode’s children are HUGE Chiefs fans and he has to deal with it every year



https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article249287095.html?__twitter_impression=true

4321 Manning after the stunt he & Elway pulled on the Chiefs!

[staylor26]

And, they'll figure something out. They won a playoff game with Tebow... and a SB last year with two QBs that combined for 20 TDs...

Just look at how delusional Broncos fans were (and still are today).

[comochiefsfan]

It makes me feel great inside knowing that this chode’s children are HUGE Chiefs fans and he has to deal with it every year



https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article249287095.html?__twitter_impression=trueNot to mention Drew Brees' kids are also huge Mahomes fans.

Everyone loves Mahomes, especially the kids. Yet the NFL decides to rig the Super Bowl for unrelatable old fucking Tom Brady. Still can't believe it.

[TEX]

And, they'll figure something out. They won a playoff game with Tebow... and a SB last year with two QBs that combined for 20 TDs...

How's it working out thus far? LMAO

[BigRock]

I’m not doing it with the mascot, OK?’ I mean, enough’s enough. Are you kidding me?

“The nerve of that mascot to ask me"

Fuck him forever and a day, but the guy can be pretty funny now and then.

[RealSNR]

“We shall see”