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Barret
03-11-2016, 10:38 AM
Hey all,

Thought you might enjoy this article I found concerning Some folks from the UK ranking BBQ joints in KC. Seems as though they are starting some BBQ places in London called Bodean's and they are modeling it after KC BBQ and not Texas BBQ.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/guide-kansas-city-style-barbecue-7419070

Holladay
03-11-2016, 10:57 AM
Interesting but they missed a few spots

Mr. Laz
03-11-2016, 11:11 AM
:thumb:

srvy
03-11-2016, 11:24 AM
Lil Jakes Eat it and Beat It was one my favs for lunch when working in the city. Its a shame they made him move for the Power and Light District, should have made room. I have not been to his location in the Freight house. It is now on my list.

Halfcan
03-11-2016, 11:27 AM
I have not been to most of those places.

Winslows in River Market is my favorite for Ribs.

I like Red Hot and Blue in Joplin as well-always stop there on the way through town.

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 11:41 AM
Surprised no mention of Gates anywhere.

My wife has a friend from here (Alabama) who was in KC a month or so back. He didn't bother to ask the KC native where to go and wanted to taste some of the legendary KC 'que. Went to KC Masterpiece. :facepalm:

Fish
03-11-2016, 11:50 AM
Surprised no mention of Gates anywhere.

My wife has a friend from here (Alabama) who was in KC a month or so back. He didn't bother to ask the KC native where to go and wanted to taste some of the legendary KC 'que. Went to KC Masterpiece. :facepalm:

The last KC Masterpiece closed in 2009. There are no more.

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 11:56 AM
The last KC Masterpiece closed in 2009. There are no more.

Really? That's where they told her they ate. Is there something similarly named?

The Bunk
03-11-2016, 11:59 AM
Hey all,

Thought you might enjoy this article I found concerning Some folks from the UK ranking BBQ joints in KC. Seems as though they are starting some BBQ places in London called Bodean's and they are modeling it after KC BBQ and not Texas BBQ.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/guide-kansas-city-style-barbecue-7419070

Bodean's has been around for years. They actually do a very nice job all things considered. I frequented it when I was living in London from 07-08.

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 11:59 AM
The last KC Masterpiece closed in 2009. There are no more.

Really? That's where they told her they ate. Is there something similarly named?

Sorry, I jacked up the details. Just asked the wife, it wasn't a friend, it was a customer. And apparently it wasn't recent.

But they judged all of KC 'que on that experience and don't want to go back now.

She told them if they're ever back, to call her. She'd steer them to the right places.

Fish
03-11-2016, 12:07 PM
Sorry, I jacked up the details. Just asked the wife, it wasn't a friend, it was a customer. And apparently it wasn't recent.

But they judged all of KC 'que on that experience and don't want to go back now.

She told them if they're ever back, to call her. She'd steer them to the right places.

KC Masterpiece wasn't a terrible place to eat. It just wasn't really traditional BBQ and the sauce is brown sugar koolaid. Similar to a Famous Daves setup.

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 12:08 PM
KC Masterpiece wasn't a terrible place to eat. It just wasn't really traditional BBQ and the sauce is brown sugar koolaid. Similar to a Famous Daves setup.

People judging KC on Famous Dave's drive me bonkers. Not KC, it's Minnesotan.

TimBone
03-11-2016, 12:26 PM
KC Masterpiece wasn't a terrible place to eat. It just wasn't really traditional BBQ and the sauce is brown sugar koolaid. Similar to a Famous Daves setup.

People judging KC on Famous Dave's drive me bonkers. Not KC, it's Minnesotan.
I was in KC for the Chiefs-Broncos Thursday nighter this year. The wife and I were doing some shopping that morning. While in a shoe store, the cashier found out we were from out of town, and started chatting us up. She mentioned bbq, and then asked where we were staying. I told her our hotel reservation in OP got screwed up, and that we ended up all the way North at the Kansas City Speedway. She said, "Oh, there's a Famous Daves right there in that area, so you're fine as far as BBQ is concerned."

Fish
03-11-2016, 12:30 PM
I was in KC for the Chiefs-Broncos Thursday nighter this year. The wife and I were doing some shopping that morning. While in a shoe store, the cashier found out we were from out of town, and started chatting us up. She mentioned bbq, and then asked where we were staying. I told her our hotel reservation in OP got screwed up, and that we ended up all the way North at the Kansas City Speedway. She said, "Oh, there's a Famous Daves right there in that area, so you're fine as far as BBQ is concerned."

Throat punch.

FYI... there's also an Arthur Bryants nearby there. Also, that ain't North KC.

TimBone
03-11-2016, 12:37 PM
Throat punch.

FYI... there's also an Arthur Bryants nearby there. Also, that ain't North KC.
Yeah, I've been to that AB a few years ago. That's one of the reasons I thought it was so awful that a KC native was championing Famous Daves. I mean, how can you be from KC, and still be so in the dark?

That's not Northern KC? Sheesh. Maybe it just felt way north because it was much further away than we intended on staying.

srvy
03-11-2016, 12:37 PM
KC Masterpiece wasn't a terrible place to eat. It just wasn't really traditional BBQ and the sauce is brown sugar koolaid. Similar to a Famous Daves setup.

I never ate at Rich Davis bbq joint but when it open people raved about it. I do now before he sold to Kraft Foods his Masterpiece sauce was pretty darn good. Especially if you were coming from Hunts or Otts BBQ sauce that stores actually carried then. It was a wondrous for its time as my Mom used to make her own sauce because store bout was so bad. First time I brought home Masterpiece and let mom try it out I dont remember her making her sauce again. My Dad, Mom, Bro and Sis thought it tasted like Mom's. I think Kraft destroyed that Q sauce.

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 12:39 PM
I never ate at Rich Davis bbq joint but when it open people raved about it. I do now before he sold to Kraft Foods his Masterpiece sauce was pretty darn good. Especially if you were coming from Hunts or Otts BBQ sauce that stores actually carried then. It was a wondrous for its time as my Mom used to make her own sauce because store bout was so bad. First time I brought home Masterpiece and let mom try it out I dont remember her making her sauce again. My Dad, Mom, Bro and Sis thought it tasted like Mom's. I think Kraft destroyed that Q sauce.

I've heard the same thing. They apparently bottle a version that's based off that original recipe: https://www.kcmasterpiece.com/products/kansas-city-classic-barbecue-sauce/

ChiliConCarnage
03-11-2016, 12:48 PM
Throat punch.

FYI... there's also an Arthur Bryants nearby there. Also, that ain't North KC.

I think that Arthur Bryants location is bad. I haven't been to the original location in years and years.. maybe it's still good.

Halfcan
03-11-2016, 01:03 PM
I think that Arthur Bryants location is bad. I haven't been to the original location in years and years.. maybe it's still good.

I used to go to the one in the casino before it closed. They said a rich guy from back east somewhere-bought the whole package.

I have seen the health inspection reports on the original location. No thanks. :shake:

Better off doing your own bbq and buying the sauce instead of risking it at that place.

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 01:08 PM
I used to go to the one in the casino before it closed. They said a rich guy from back east somewhere-bought the whole package.

I have seen the health inspection reports on the original location. No thanks. :shake:

Better off doing your own bbq and buying the sauce instead of risking it at that place.

BBQ should be a little dirty.

oldman
03-11-2016, 01:31 PM
I've heard the same thing. They apparently bottle a version that's based off that original recipe: https://www.kcmasterpiece.com/products/kansas-city-classic-barbecue-sauce/

If anyone is considering trying it, look closely at the label and see where it's made. My nephew's girlfriend bought him some when she found it in South Carolina and the label and the label said "Oakland, CA".

oldman
03-11-2016, 01:36 PM
I used to go to the one in the casino before it closed. They said a rich guy from back east somewhere-bought the whole package.



The current owners are Gary Berbiglia and Bill Rauschelbach. I think the Bryant family retained the rights to the sauce.

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 01:37 PM
If anyone is considering trying it, look closely at the label and see where it's made. My nephew's girlfriend bought him some when she found it in South Carolina and the label and the label said "Oakland, CA".

I've never tried it, so I'm not endorsing it, but I'm not sure I follow your point. I didn't say it was now KC-made, just that they (allegedly) went back to the original recipe. Where's it's bottled is irrelevant.

oldman
03-11-2016, 01:41 PM
If it's bottled in Oakland Ca, I want nothing to do with it.

Halfcan
03-11-2016, 02:05 PM
BBQ should be a little dirty.

They have had pages of critical violations.

Food not kept at temperature (chicken) can make you very sick. Cig butts and smoking by food. And major roach and rodent problems.

It is beyond a little dirty. Filthy and disgusting.

I think there was a thread on here with the reports. :shake:

Fire Me Boy!
03-11-2016, 02:14 PM
They have had pages of critical violations.

Food not kept at temperature (chicken) can make you very sick. Cig butts and smoking by food. And major roach and rodent problems.

It is beyond a little dirty. Filthy and disgusting.

I think there was a thread on here with the reports. :shake:

Yeesh. That's maybe a little too dirty.

bdj23
03-11-2016, 02:18 PM
Yeah, I've been to that AB a few years ago. That's one of the reasons I thought it was so awful that a KC native was championing Famous Daves. I mean, how can you be from KC, and still be so in the dark?

That's not Northern KC? Sheesh. Maybe it just felt way north because it was much further away than we intended on staying.

KC Native and dark in the same paragraph?

Better check that racism, pal.

underEJ
03-11-2016, 02:53 PM
If it's bottled in Oakland Ca, I want nothing to do with it.

I used to live in Oakland and there was a bbq place called Doug's that had Bryants newspaper clippings and photos all over the walls, and they made some damn fine food. I bought their sauce a few times as well and brought it to KC. It was well received. Oakland has a few gems in it.

eDave
03-11-2016, 03:03 PM
I miss Bobby Bell's. That was righteous.

gblowfish
03-11-2016, 03:16 PM
I've been to all these places in the article except Q39. Haven't been there yet.

A couple things:

I stop at Arthur Bryant's on the way home from work at least once a month. Their original sauce is by far the most unusual in the city. You either love it or hate it. They make a more traditional sweet sauce -like a Memphis style sauce- that's great on turkey. But their original sauce on brisket or ribs is one of a kind. I think their ribs are wonderful.

No mention of Gates, but that's OK. Other spots they missed were LC's, Rosedale, Big T's, Snead's, all good places.

Smokin' Guns in NKC is very good. I like their burnt ends. Gates burnt ends are inedible...way too greasy.

Joe's is so unusual because of the gas station. Danny Edwards place on the Boulevard (next door to Ponak's Mexican Kitchen) is good too, but they aren't open at night. So you can only get lunch there.

Oh, and on KC Masterpiece sauce. The same company that makes Clorox makes it now. Full of HFCS, it's shit. Don't buy it. Here in KC you can get the original recipe black label, made with cane sugar and molasses, and it's pretty good. But avoid the nationally marketed stuff. It's crap.

Overall, I thought this was a very interesting article. Thanks for posting it.

srvy
03-11-2016, 03:31 PM
I miss Bobby Bell's. That was righteous.
I ate there so much when it was in Gladstone. Bobby and his wife were class acts. My only question is did Ollie Gates just send him over his sauce I to me tasted the same. Was so good especially since next Q we had was Marty's across from Antioch Mall.