San Fran Trade is Perfect

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

And I ****ing called it.

Those of you calling me Blackbob and touting Lynch for the last few months are a bunch of morons

Either a) go cheer for the donks and paxton b) shut up, and enjoy the awesome things that Dorsey is doing for this team

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If he is available to us we should swap our late first with San Fran's early 2nd , take a 4th from them to help recuperate our lost (late) third round pick

And the Niners have 14 this year. They would make great trade partners to balance the # across both years

Yes. San Fran has way too many picks and would be great trade partners.

BOOM

[saphojunkie]

Even the sun shines on Blackbob's ass now and then.

Having said that... respect where it's due. Good fucking call.

[DenverChief]

Nice call

[pr_capone]

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[Mr. Laz]

Nothing perfect about it

Tons of talent and we pass on them all for a 4th?

Perfect my ass

Not to mention we failed to act on all those guys ew needed that went right in front of us

Dorsey has a good eye for talent but the GM part of the job is lacking.

[RobBlake]

More than plenty of impact and talented players left

[New World Order]

You have to be kidding.

[OldSchool]

Nothing perfect about it

Tons of talent and we pass on them all for a 4th?

Perfect my ass

Not to mention we failed to act on all those guys ew needed that went right in front of us

Dorsey has a good eye for talent but the GM part of the job is lacking.

Plenty of more talent to be had.

[Toby Waller]

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No,I'm sorry, that won't qualify for the candy contest

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Nothing perfect about it

Tons of talent and we pass on them all for a 4th?

Perfect my ass

Not to mention we failed to act on all those guys ew needed that went right in front of us

Dorsey has a good eye for talent but the GM part of the job is lacking.

That early 4th is only ten picks off that lost third we had taken away

[jd1020]

That early 4th is only ten picks off that lost third we had taken away

So we traded out of the 1st to try and regain a 3rd we had taken away from us. Perfect!

[Eleazar]

I don't especially like it, but Dorsey has said more than once that he thought this draft was particularly strong in the middle rounds. Judge it after the draft is over.

[chiefzilla1501]

Not a fan of it though at least there's plenty of talent on the board. I'm not sold on Paxton Lynch. But it sure felt to me like Denver leaped ahead of kc to get him. Denver is always taking draft risks on qbs while we wait for qbs to come to us. Says a lot about our inability to get a good qb.

[WhawhaWhat]

It's interesting that they didn't try to trade up to fill a gap to make a run this year. Maybe Dorsey and Reid realize they don't have the pieces to make a real Super Bowl run if Houston is going to miss most of the season and are going to start adding a bunch of young guys to turn the roster over.

They already have 90% of their cap spent for next year anyway and they have Fisher and Poe contracts coming due. I think the Eagles, Ravens and Cowboys are only teams that are worse with their cap situation.

[jspchief]

Not a fan of it though at least there's plenty of talent on the board. I'm not sold on Paxton Lynch. But it sure felt to me like Denver leaped ahead of kc to get him. Denver is always taking draft risks on qbs while we wait for qbs to come to us. Says a lot about our inability to get a good qb.
Last KC drafted qb to win a game for the Chiefs is Todd Blackledge. How many Denver drafted QBs have won playoff games in that span?

I'm indifferent about Lynch, but it's no wonder fans are desperate for a 1st round qb. It's not like the Chiefs way is some proven recipe for success.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It's interesting that they didn't try to trade up to fill a gap to make a run this year. Maybe Dorsey and Reid realize they don't have the pieces to make a real Super Bowl run if Houston is going to miss most of the season and are going to start adding a bunch of young guys to turn the roster over.

They already have 90% of their cap spent for next year anyway and they have Fisher and Poe contracts coming due. I think the Eagles, Ravens and Cowboys are only teams that are worse with their cap situation.

More so that they feel like they have the core they need and are drafting for depth. We were contenders last year and that was with a flurry of injured impact players in the playoffs.

[Why Not?]

Last KC drafted qb to win a game for the Chiefs is Todd Blackledge. How many Denver drafted QBs have won playoff games in that span?

I'm indifferent about Lynch, but it's no wonder fans are desperate for a 1st round qb. It's not like the Chiefs way is some proven recipe for success.



Elway

Um, Tebow


There's your list. Clearly Denver has had much more success overall as a franchise than the Chiefs have but let's not act said they're some QB development factory


EDIT: oh and I guess you could include Cutler, technically, as a Denver drafted QB to win a playoff game, just not with Denver.

[TimeForWasp]

So we traded our first for a second and our seventh for a 4th. Not a glaring win

[DenverChief]

Nothing perfect about it

Tons of talent and we pass on them all for a 4th?

Perfect my ass

Not to mention we failed to act on all those guys ew needed that went right in front of us

Dorsey has a good eye for talent but the GM part of the job is lacking.

All of that talent could be had 9 picks later for a cheaper price. There obviously wasn't anyone in his board that warranted a #28 pick. Gain some perspective man.

[DenverChief]

So we traded our first for a second and our seventh for a 4th. Not a glaring win

And a 6th...?

[Deberg_1990]

I'll judge this trade in 2-3 years

[Why Not?]

I'll judge this trade in 2-3 years

This

I mean really, who is the guy within the next 9 picks that is worth melting down over if the Chiefs don't get him?

[DenverChief]

This

I mean really, who is the guy within the next 9 picks that is worth melting down over if the Chiefs don't get him?

Thank you!

[TimeForWasp]

I'm not bitching but it's not a glaring improvement.

[RealSNR]

Good job. You called a trade down!

Guess what? EVERYBODY in this fanbase calls for a trade down every fucking year.

You're still Blackbob. You still suck babysitter cock.

[SAUTO]

I think you could have bashed lynch if he hadn't had someone trade up for him. But at this point doing so is just a typical black bob

[booger]

Tigerfistsbobsbutt

[Sandy Vagina]

This

I mean really, who is the guy within the next 9 picks that is worth melting down over if the Chiefs don't get him?

Perfect question to ask.

I wanted Mack Alexander at 28, but there's no point in pouting like a lil bitch about this. Hell, they can still get him, or another good CB option today.

****ing people here are hilariously disgruntled vaginas.. it's embarrassing. :shake:

[Mr. Laz]

All of that talent could be had 9 picks later for a cheaper price. There obviously wasn't anyone in his board that warranted a #28 pick. Gain some perspective man.
Everyone knew that the run on WRs and CBs was coming right in front of us.

Dorsey did nothing


I believe that WJIII is an elite, pro bowl CB and that is a position of real need for us. Go look at our depth chart at CB and see that pile of shit we have after Marcus Peters.

Dorsey just sat there and did nothing.

Dorsey and Reid screwed up by tampering(i don't believe for a second that Reid call Maclin without Dorsey knowing about it.

Then Dorsey compounds the problem by ignoring starting talent to recoup the 3rd round pick. Then Dorsey failed to even get a 3rd and had to settle for a 4th.

That player we pick with that 4th round pick better shit gold and be a starter in the NFL for 10 years or it's gawd dam waste.

After all that incompetency, there were still some quality starters sitting there when we supposed to pick at 28 and we passed on them for a fucking 4th round pick.

Hell, a 4th round pick might not even make the team.

So pissed at Dorsey right now, he better have the best 2nd round in the history of history. :banghead:

[SAUTO]

665 to 635 in value.


Bob is patting his own back.

[Sandy Vagina]

So pissed at Dorsey right now, he better the best 2nd round in the history of history. :banghead:

damn.. really like you.. and am disappointed that you have been taking this so hard. If Dorsey didn't like those selected CBs enough, then what ya gonna do? Maybe he had legit reasons... goes the same for me not getting my choice at 28. How often do we ever really get our wish in these draft rds?

We have to trust that they have more info than we do, and will make the right move. No point in getting upset about decisions made that we have no control over.. especially just exiting rd 1. :(

[Eleazar]

This

I mean really, who is the guy within the next 9 picks that is worth melting down over if the Chiefs don't get him?

Nobody. People are mainly upset that we didn't get more for trading down 9 spots but there were probably multiple teams looking to trade down at that point.

[SAUTO]

damn.. really like you.. and am disappointed that you have been taking this so hard. If Dorsey didn't like those selected CBs enough, then what ya gonna do? Maybe he had legit reasons... goes the same for me not getting my choice at 28. How often do we ever really get our wish in these draft rds?

We have to trust that they have more info than we do, and will make the right move. No point in getting upset about decisions made that we have no control over.. especially just exiting rd 1. :(

ROFL

[Chiefnj2]

So pissed at Dorsey right now, he better the best 2nd round in the history of history. :banghead:

Who would you have drafted if they didn't move down?

[Eleazar]

Who would you have drafted if they didn't move down?

On CP, the right move is always to trade up

[Mr. Laz]

damn.. really like you.. and am disappointed that you have been taking this so hard. If Dorsey didn't like those selected CBs enough, then what ya gonna do? Maybe he had legit reasons... goes the same for me not getting my choice at 28. How often do we ever really get our wish in these draft rds?

We have to trust that they have more info than we do, and will make the right move. No point in getting upset about decisions made that we have no control over.. especially just exiting rd 1. :(
I'm trying to get over it ... just wanted WJIII so badly. :(

If Marcus Cooper and Steven Nelson are out there flailing around in coverage this season i'm going to kill someone.

[DenverChief]

Everyone knew that the run on WRs and CBs was coming right in front of us.

Dorsey did nothing


I believe that WJIII is an elite, pro bowl CB and that is a position of real need for us. Go look at our depth chart at CB and see that pile of shit we have after Marcus Peters.

Dorsey just sat there and did nothing.

Dorsey and Reid screwed up by tampering(i don't believe for a second that Reid call Maclin without Dorsey knowing about it.

Then Dorsey compounds the problem by ignoring starting talent to recoup the 3rd round pick. Then Dorsey failed to even get a 3rd and had to settle for a 4th.

That player we pick with that 4th round pick better shit gold and be a starter in the NFL for 10 years or it's gawd dam waste.

After all that incompetency, there were still some quality starters sitting there when we supposed to pick at 28 and we passed on them for a ****ing 4th round pick.

Hell, a 4th round pick might not even make the team.

So pissed at Dorsey right now, he better have the best 2nd round in the history of history. :banghead:

So what you wanted was to give up half of our draft for one player? Trade up three spots would have taken at least our second and sixth leaving us with a 4th 5th and 7th. Sounds incredibly bad.

[Dartgod]

Elway

Um, Tebow


There's your list. Clearly Denver has had much more success overall as a franchise than the Chiefs have but let's not act said they're some QB development factory


EDIT: oh and I guess you could include Cutler, technically, as a Denver drafted QB to win a playoff game, just not with Denver.

Elway was not drafted by the Broncos.

[Fish]

Shitty low value trade down. Shitty OP.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Nothing perfect about it

Tons of talent and we pass on them all for a 4th?

Perfect my ass

Not to mention we failed to act on all those guys ew needed that went right in front of us

Dorsey has a good eye for talent but the GM part of the job is lacking.
Shut your fucking mouth. You're professional expertise lies within the fast food industry, not football.

[Hoover]

You can't really judge the trade until you see who we select.

Personally, I like it. And to hell with the value chart.

The great thing is that besides the CB position, we don't have any glaring needs. And even there we have decent options. I'm confident we can get a good CB prospect with pick 37, the only issue we have to worry about is if we don't go CB there because we are in love with some DL, OG, WR, or LB.

I don't think we can screw this up so long as we take a defensive player.

[BigCatDaddy]

Last KC drafted qb to win a game for the Chiefs is Todd Blackledge. How many Denver drafted QBs have won playoff games in that span?

I'm indifferent about Lynch, but it's no wonder fans are desperate for a 1st round qb. It's not like the Chiefs way is some proven recipe for success.

And if Lynch does well the talking point of "he wasnt a available to us when we picked" lives on!

[Mr. Laz]

Who would you have drafted if they didn't move down?
Since everyone knew that a run on CB and WRs was going to happen right in front of us .... i would have traded UP and grabbed a CB.

fuck the 4th round, we need a starter at CB to pair with Peters

CB
LB/Pass rusher
WR

Get the best 3 players at those positions we can get, quality over quantity.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Not a fan of it though at least there's plenty of talent on the board. I'm not sold on Paxton Lynch. But it sure felt to me like Denver leaped ahead of kc to get him. Denver is always taking draft risks on qbs while we wait for qbs to come to us. Says a lot about our inability to get a good qb.
Actually, Dallas was trying to trade back into the first to get Lynch. Rumor has it, that it was the chiefs they were in serious talks with them to trade up.... So, the Donks still fucked us, but not by taking Lynch from us, but by taking the potential for more picks away from from us.

[Rausch]

Since there wasn't first round talent at G, CB, WR, or S I love the trade down.

Gain some extra picks instead of reaching.

I think going ILB, G, or S to start round 2 would be solid value picks...

[Rausch]

All of that talent could be had 9 picks later for a cheaper price. There obviously wasn't anyone in his board that warranted a #28 pick. Gain some perspective man.

This. We saved money and have the ability to add a day 1 starter at G, ILB, or perhaps even S...

[Mr. Laz]

Shut your fucking mouth. You're professional expertise lies within the fast food industry, not football.
eat a pile of shit, you little bitch

If that whore mother of yours would have just learn to deep throat/swallow instead of letting the entire football team cum inside her, you wouldn't even exist to be annoying people now.

[chiefscafan]

Guys I understand the frustration but look at all the talent left. Reid and Dorsey have a good draft team. After looking at what we did we have done our homework on players. As I said on another thread. I wouldn't doubt we started to do our homework on the red flagged players for behavior and medical.

Yes I'm a Bama homer but Robinson is amazing and if Ragland is ok medically him and DJ together would be unbeatable. Mack Alexander is there and would add some edge to the D.


Let's give him a chance to see what he can do with these picks

[Chiefnj2]

Since everyone knew that a run on CB and WRs was going to happen right in front of us .... i would have traded UP and grabbed a CB.

**** the 4th round, we need a starter at CB to pair with Peters

CB
LB/Pass rusher
WR

Get the best 3 players at those positions we can get, quality over quantity.

What would you have given the Jets to jump in front of the CB/WR binge?

[Mr. Laz]

This. We saved money and have the ability to add a day 1 starter at G, ILB, or perhaps even S...
Saving money and signing guards

Fantastic!!

Signed,
The Hunt Family

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Everyone knew that the run on WRs and CBs was coming right in front of us.

Dorsey did nothing


I believe that WJIII is an elite, pro bowl CB and that is a position of real need for us. Go look at our depth chart at CB and see that pile of shit we have after Marcus Peters.

Dorsey just sat there and did nothing.

Dorsey and Reid screwed up by tampering(i don't believe for a second that Reid call Maclin without Dorsey knowing about it.

Then Dorsey compounds the problem by ignoring starting talent to recoup the 3rd round pick. Then Dorsey failed to even get a 3rd and had to settle for a 4th.

That player we pick with that 4th round pick better shit gold and be a starter in the NFL for 10 years or it's gawd dam waste.

After all that incompetency, there were still some quality starters sitting there when we supposed to pick at 28 and we passed on them for a fucking 4th round pick.

Hell, a 4th round pick might not even make the team.

So pissed at Dorsey right now, he better have the best 2nd round in the history of history. :banghead:
Your analyzing is equivalent to that of a mentally retarded, inbred, monkey. Please, stop speaking as though you know more than the people that do this as a profession. Because, you don't know shit. At least keep your mouth shut till the end of the draft. You're talking shit over a single move when we still have 9 more picks before this draft is over.

[Mr. Laz]

What would you have given the Jets to jump in front of the CB/WR binge?
Elway doesn't have a problem making it happen. He decides what he wants and then he goes and gets it.

While we sit on our ass and cry about how unfair it is that all the good players were picked before us.

[Rausch]

What would you have given the Jets to jump in front of the CB/WR binge?

We could have traded up with the Vikings for WJIII, but probably would have to give up a lot because the Bengals might have taken Treadwell right after that.

I really didn't like the idea of trading up this year...

[Mr. Laz]

Guys I understand the frustration but look at all the talent left. Reid and Dorsey have a good draft team. After looking at what we did we have done our homework on players. As I said on another thread. I wouldn't doubt we started to do our homework on the red flagged players for behavior and medical.

Yes I'm a Bama homer but Robinson is amazing and if Ragland is ok medically him and DJ together would be unbeatable. Mack Alexander is there and would add some edge to the D.


Let's give him a chance to see what he can do with these picks
I know, i know ... you're right.

I'm just soooooooooooo pissed off right now. :#


Can't wait to see Steven Nelson at starting CB for us this year after his 1 legit game as a pro. :(

[Cmd'r&Chief]

eat a pile of shit, you little bitch

If that whore mother of yours would have just learn to deep throat/swallow instead of letting the entire football team cum inside her, you wouldn't even exist to be annoying people now.
You're comebacks are unoriginal and lack intellect. I understand that you hate your life, as I probably would too if I had to live in your skin. But there's no need to take your frustrations out by trying to be an Internet tough guy.

[Johnny Vegas]

Chiefs have two 2nd's, two 4ths, two 5ths, and two 6ths. Let's see what kinda soup they're gonna make here.

[Rausch]

I know, i know ... you're right.

I'm just soooooooooooo pissed off right now. :#


Can't wait to see Steven Nelson at starting CB for us this year after his 1 legit game as a pro. :(

Did we cut/trade Gaines?...

[jspchief]

So what you wanted was to give up half of our draft for one player? Trade up three spots would have taken at least our second and sixth leaving us with a 4th 5th and 7th. Sounds incredibly bad.

Are you making this up?

[Rausch]

Chiefs have two 2nd's, two 4ths, two 5ths, and two 6ths. Let's see what kinda soup they're gonna make here.

Two picks this year and one next year and we have our 3rd back...

[Lex Luthor]

Last KC drafted qb to win a game for the Chiefs is Todd Blackledge. How many Denver drafted QBs have won playoff games in that span?

I'm indifferent about Lynch, but it's no wonder fans are desperate for a 1st round qb. It's not like the Chiefs way is some proven recipe for success.

Elway

Um, Tebow

There's your list. Clearly Denver has had much more success overall as a franchise than the Chiefs have but let's not act said they're some QB development factory


EDIT: oh and I guess you could include Cutler, technically, as a Denver drafted QB to win a playoff game, just not with Denver.

Elway was not drafted by the Broncos.

So much for the Chiefsplanet theory that you MUST draft and develop your franchise quarterback.

Quarterbacks drafted by Denver who won a playoff game for Denver:

Tim Tebow

Quarterbacks NOT drafted by Denver who won at least one playoff game for Denver (3 of the 4 took Denver to the Super Bowl):

John Elway (drafted by the Colts)
Peyton Manning (drafted by the Colts)
Jake Plummer (drafted by the Cardinals)
Craig Morton (drafted by the Cowboys)

Denver seems to have had pretty good success with retread quarterbacks. Is it possible that the Chiefsplanet brain trust has been wrong all of these years about the NECESSITY to draft and develop the QBOTF?

[Mr. Laz]

So what you wanted was to give up half of our draft for one player? Trade up three spots would have taken at least our second and sixth leaving us with a 4th 5th and 7th. Sounds incredibly bad.
Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round

[Bwana]

We could have traded up with the Vikings for WJIII, but probably would have to give up a lot because the Bengals might have taken Treadwell right after that.

I really didn't like the idea of trading up this year...

There were a couple of guys that mentioned last night that part of the punishment that Jolly Roger handed down in addition to the Chiefs losing picks, was the inability to trade up. I have no idea if that is true or a load of crap. Either way fuck Roger.

[Mr. Laz]

Are you making this up?
yes, he is

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Shitty low value trade down. Shitty OP.
Your football assessments are about as valuable as the giant turd I just let loose after a night of eating buffalo wings

[Mr. Laz]

Your football assessments are about as valuable as the giant turd I just let loose after a night of eating buffalo wings
I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.

[DenverChief]

Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round

And we don't have a third....

[siberian khatru]

There were a couple of guys that mentioned last night that part of the punishment that Jolly Roger handed down in addition to the Chiefs losing picks, was the inability to trade up. I have no idea if that is true or a load of crap. Either way fuck Roger.

That was a sarcastic post (by SNR? can't remember) mocking Dorsey.

[DenverChief]

I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.

I'm totally bookmarking this thread so we can revisit it after training camp

[Sandy Vagina]

Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round

It's not always about how silver-tongued a GM is in his trade attempts.. but how willing the other team's GM really is to move back.

[siberian khatru]

I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.


Let's wait and see if they use the 4th and 6th from SF to trade back up into the 3rd.

[DenverChief]

Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round

And actually would have taken at least 5 spots to get either Jackson or Burns.

So by that measure we raped the Niners?

[Red Dawg]

We could have traded up with the Vikings for WJIII, but probably would have to give up a lot because the Bengals might have taken Treadwell right after that.

I really didn't like the idea of trading up this year...

There is no way we could have traded up without a 3rd. That fugged us period!

Dorsey certainly would not let go of our second just to swap and no team gives a shit about a late 4th rounder. We couldn't move.

Seriously what deal was to be had to move up that wold not have ruined the rest of the draft?

[Bwana]

That was a sarcastic post (by SNR? can't remember) mocking Dorsey.

Yeah I saw two or three guys post it so had no idea if it was true or a load of horse dung. I just hope we can hit a couple of homeruns with todays picks. :hmmm:

[Mr. Laz]

And we don't have a third....
Come on now, you're just trying to move the goal post.

1st - it was Dorsey's(and Reid's) fault that we don't have a 3rd
2nd - The trade value you initially talked about was incorrect, you can trade up low in the 1st round without giving up the farm

Dorsey is a quantity draft guy

I believe this team, at this point, needs quality over quantity.

We need 2 or 3 quality starters out of this draft ... fuck the rest

1) stud corner to start opposite of Peters
2) Pass rush to supplement Houston being hurt
3) capable quality OG

OG can be picked in the mid/low rounds ... get the best CB and Pass rush guy you can and then move on.

[Mr. Laz]

There is no way we could have traded up without a 3rd. That fugged us period!

Dorsey certainly would not let go of our second just to swap and no team gives a shit about a late 4th rounder. We couldn't move.

Seriously what deal was to be had to move up that wold not have ruined the rest of the draft?
bullshit, that's just an excuse used by teams who don't know what to do.

We could have even used a pick from next year to help us trade. We have extra picks next year.


time to stop with the excuses if we ever want to win a super bowl

[Dartgod]

You're comebacks are unoriginal and lack intellect.

Before making a post about another member's lack of intellect, it's probably a good idea to have an understanding of the proper use of "you're" and "your".

[Johnny Vegas]

Donky fans are claiming the Chiefs were trying to trade up for Lynch as well as the Cowboys trying to get back in the first round to get him.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Before making a post about another member's lack of intellect, it's probably a good idea to have an understanding of the proper use of "you're" and "your".
Yea, yea. That's usually my call out, you got me. Good catch.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.

Let's see here...Chiefs needs at this time: CB, LB, DT, OG, WR

Are you really coming on here and saying that only 1st round picks are starter level guys? We traded down just 9 spots (Pats didn't get a pick) and so far, 5 of those picks weren't players high on our list. This is a GREAT move by Dorsey. We have the ability to to move up in the third if we choose to and essentially recuperate the lost pick stripped away from us.

The Pats and Seahawks have been trading down for years and building rosters gambling on evaluating a larger quantity of players in camp. We have #1 players at every position of major need (Peters, Houston, Poe, Johnson, Maclin, Kelce, Smith, Fisher/Schwartz, Berry, Charles) but people want to freak the **** out because we didn't draft Paxton Lynch or some overhyped CB?

Jack, Alexander, Ragland, Ogbah are still on the board!

FFS people

[jspchief]

Why is everyone so fucking enamored with getting that 3rd back? if it's such a valuable pick, why are other teams trading it away to KC?

[SAUTO]

There were a couple of guys that mentioned last night that part of the punishment that Jolly Roger handed down in addition to the Chiefs losing picks, was the inability to trade up. I have no idea if that is true or a load of crap. Either way fuck Roger.

it was made up bullshit

[Mr. Plow]

damn.. really like you.. and am disappointed that you have been taking this so hard. If Dorsey didn't like those selected CBs enough, then what ya gonna do? Maybe he had legit reasons... goes the same for me not getting my choice at 28. How often do we ever really get our wish in these draft rds?

We have to trust that they have more info than we do, and will make the right move. No point in getting upset about decisions made that we have no control over.. especially just exiting rd 1. :(

LMAO

[SAUTO]

Let's see here...Chiefs needs at this time: CB, LB, DT, OG, WR

Are you really coming on here and saying that only 1st round picks are starter level guys? We traded down just 9 spots (Pats didn't get a pick) and so far, 5 of those picks weren't players high on our list. This is a GREAT move by Dorsey. We have the ability to to move up in the third if we choose to and essentially recuperate the lost pick stripped away from us.

The Pats and Seahawks have been trading down for years and building rosters gambling on evaluating a larger quantity of players in camp. We have #1 players at every position of major need (Peters, Houston, Poe, Johnson, Maclin, Kelce, Smith, Fisher/Schwartz, Berry, Charles) but people want to freak the **** out because we didn't draft Paxton Lynch or some overhyped CB?

Jack, Alexander, Ragland, Ogbah are still on the board!

FFS peoplehow do you know who is high on our list?

[Red Dawg]

bullshit, that's just an excuse used by teams who don't know what to do.

We could have even used a pick from next year to help us trade. We have extra picks next year.


time to stop with the excuses if we ever want to win a super bowl

Don't know what to do? We were 2-14 and Dorsey has put two playoff teams on the field so don't give me the Don't know what to do" line. Teams are not going to value next years picks as much as this years at the moment.

So now we should start trying to give give away next years picks to move and get who? Don't say Lynch, who is a spacey headed project that Elway didn't even want. The guy he wanted walked out the door on him for almost the same money he offered. He got him out of need.

[Fish]

Anybody go out to Arrowhead and watch this exiting round 1 at the practice facility? Man that would have been a party.......

[Eleazar]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--26CvFJKe--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18kx9t3on9n28jpg.jpg

[InChiefsHeaven]

Anybody go out to Arrowhead and watch this exiting round 1 at the practice facility? Man that would have been a party.......

That would indeed have sucked. It was bad enough staying up that late just to watch us trade out...can't imagine how much awesomeness there was at the draft party!ROFL

[Bwana]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--26CvFJKe--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18kx9t3on9n28jpg.jpg

Heh, wait until after they make a pick. It's the same every year, guys going bat shit crazy right after the pick and 24 hours later saying now that I have seen the interviews and some video on "player X" I'm kind of happy with the pick! Hell I have been guilty of the same thing at times over the years and at this point I have to assume that the guys making the picks know a lot more than I do about the players on the board. Now I try to wait until at least after training camp before making any kind of call on a player.

[EMAW24]

If Myles Jack is still on the board when we pick next I think we should take him.

[mcaj22]

that 5th year option you get with first rounders is not worth just a 4th imo

[Sandy Vagina]

Heh, wait until after they make a pick. It's the same every year, guys going bat shit crazy right after the pick and 24 hours later saying now that I have seen the interviews and some video on "player X" I'm kind of happy with the pick! Hell I have been guilty of the same thing at times over the years and at this point I have to assume that the guys making the picks know a lot more than I do about the players on the board. At this point I try to wait until at least after training camp before making any kind of call on a player.

Believe me.. it is like this ALL over the internet for fans of any team.

The drama and overreactions are both ROFL and :facepalm: .

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You are a joke blackbob

[Mr. Laz]

Let's see here...Chiefs needs at this time: CB, LB, DT, OG, WR

Are you really coming on here and saying that only 1st round picks are starter level guys? We traded down just 9 spots (Pats didn't get a pick) and so far, 5 of those picks weren't players high on our list. This is a GREAT move by Dorsey. We have the ability to to move up in the third if we choose to and essentially recuperate the lost pick stripped away from us.

The Pats and Seahawks have been trading down for years and building rosters gambling on evaluating a larger quantity of players in camp. We have #1 players at every position of major need (Peters, Houston, Poe, Johnson, Maclin, Kelce, Smith, Fisher/Schwartz, Berry, Charles) but people want to freak the **** out because we didn't draft Paxton Lynch or some overhyped CB?

Jack, Alexander, Ragland, Ogbah are still on the board!

FFS people
there are needs and then there are NEEDS

I seriously doubt that Gaines is just going to be able to return from injury and slide to the outside and not have a problem. Slot corner and outside corner are very,very different positions for us.

I don't have any confidence in Steven Nelson either.

You can list all the needs you want but if we don't have a starting corner opposite of Peters then the rest of the needs are irrelevant for the most part.

DT is a future need, we are ok now
OG is not a huge need, we have some decent guys now(LDT and Reid)
WR is a big need imo but Andy Reid disagrees, we played all of last year without a 2nd WR
LB another future need, not immediate
CB is a immediate,priority impact position need ... WE MUST get one in this draft.


A CB and pass rusher(Houston injury) are the immediate crucial needs.

There were a few pro bowl potential CBs within 10 picks our our pick and we did jack shit. Didn't care, just said fuck it and traded down.

I doubt even CB Mackensie Alexander makes it to our pick in the 2nd.

The top of the 2nd round is going to be just like the middle of the 1st round. All the guys we need are going to go right in front of us while we sit and do nothing.

[Gravedigger]

Patience... every year were always screaming about other teams trading around and we don't do anything. Now that we've traded to acquire more picks, people still bitch. I swear when we do draft a QB in the first round, people will say it's the worst move we've ever done, even if its foretold like Lynch was to the Broncos.

[oaklandhater]

there are needs and then there are NEEDS

I seriously doubt that Gaines is just going to be able to return from injury and slide to the outside and not have a problem. Slot corner and outside corner are very,very different positions for us.

I don't have any confidence in Steven Nelson either.

You can list all the needs you want but if we don't have a starting corner opposite of Peters then the rest of the needs are irrelevant for the most part.

DT is a future need, we are ok now
OG is not a huge need, we have some decent guys now(LDT and Reid)
WR is a big need imo but Andy Reid disagrees, we played all of last year without a 2nd WR
LB another future need, not immediate
CB is a immediate,priority impact position need ... WE MUST get one in this draft.


A CB and pass rusher(Houston injury) are the immediate crucial needs.

There were a few pro bowl potential CBs within 10 picks our our pick and we did jack shit. Didn't care, just said **** it and traded down.

I doubt even CB Mackensie Alexander makes it to our pick in the 2nd.

The top of the 2nd round is going to be just like the middle of the 1st round. All the guys we need are going to go right in front of us while we sit and do nothing.

How do you feel about Jacks in the 2nd laz ?

[Rausch]

We have a damned good chance at getting two of the following players:

Cody Whitehair, Xavien Howard, Kentrell Brothers, Vonn Bell, Scooby Wright, Terrance Smith, J. Kearse, Vadal Alexander, Denver Kirkland, Connor McGovern, Michael Thomas.

I'd love to get that ILB or CB and take the best of the beefeater G's with our 2nd pick in round 2...

[oaklandhater]

Patience... every year were always screaming about other teams trading around and we don't do anything. Now that we've traded to acquire more picks, people still bitch. I swear when we do draft a QB in the first round, people will say it's the worst move we've ever done, even if its foretold like Lynch was to the Broncos.

Because when the chiefs trade down it is a meh feeling its always for a 4th or less...

[Bwana]

Believe me.. it is like this ALL over the internet for fans of any team.

The drama and overreactions are both ROFL and :facepalm: .

Heh the reports to the mods are always WAY up during the draft as well. About 1% of the reports during that time are legitimate and the other 99% not so much. People get worked up when the draft is going on which is understandable.

[The Franchise]

I hope we don't draft Myles Jack because half of you morons don't know how to spell his fucking name.

[Rausch]

Because when the chiefs trade down it is a meh feeling its always for a 4th or less...

Almost every trade down is "meh" unless your pick allows someone to draft one of the top 2 QB's...

[Sandy Vagina]

Heh the reports to the mods are always WAY up during the draft as well. About 1% of the reports during that time are legitimate and the other 99% not so much. People get worked up when the draft is going on which is understandable.

I don't envy that job. I didn't think reporting posts really happened on CP.. because if it did? oh my... the time spent sifting through them would turn a sane mod quite :whackit:.

Between your post here and that Ignore thread... my belief that CP is a thick-skinned nation has been wavering.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Is Jack Mehoffuncle available. Sure bob would be all over that.

[Bwana]

I don't envy that job. I didn't think reporting posts really happened on CP.. because if it did? oh my... the time spent sifting through them would turn a sane mod quite :whackit:.

Between your post here and that Ignore thread... my belief that CP is a thick-skinned nation has been wavering.

It's not a big deal, it takes about 5 seconds to look at a report and determine if any action needs to be taken. We let most stuff go unless someone is just being a complete tool or using a blatant racial slur.

[NIUhuskies]

Source tells me @Chiefs tried to trade up for @SuccessfulQuon, who went to @Vikings at No. 23. KC later traded out of 1st round @SiriusXMNFL


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[jspchief]

I hope we don't draft Myles Jack because half of you morons don't know how to spell his ****ing name.Athan said they're looking to trade up for Milo Jackson.

[Mr. Laz]

How do you feel about Jacks in the 2nd laz ?
All depends on what Chiefs' docs have to say. Jacks is certainly an impact guy who is worth taking a risk on. Depends on how big of risk.


Still leaves a huge gaping wound at LCB for us though.

[Sandy Vagina]

All depends on what Chiefs' docs have to say. Jacks is certainly an impact guy who is worth taking a risk on. Depends on how big of risk.


Still leaves a huge gaping wound at LCB for us though.

RCB. :p

[oaklandhater]

All depends on what Chiefs' docs have to say. Jacks is certainly an impact guy who is worth taking a risk on. Depends on how big of risk.


Still leaves a huge gaping wound at LCB for us though.

What's the earliest He would even play this year based off his injury ?

[NIUhuskies]

What's the earliest He would even play this year based off his injury ?



On the red carpet yesterday Jack said he's ready for rookie mini camp right now

https://twitter.com/nfl/status/725822133171933185

[Sandy Vagina]

What's the earliest He would even play this year based off his injury ?

"I'm good to go," Jack said. "The report hasn't impacted me at all. It's mostly my friends and family. They get mad, they get angry. They want to tweet stuff out. I know my knee's following me. You see me out here moving around. Last weekend I got to spend time with my brother, we were playing basketball. I'm dunking. I'm doing everything. People are saying one thing, but I know what I can do. I'll be out there for rookie minicamp, OTAs, all of that. I got cleared back on March 6."
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/04/myles_jack_would_love_to_play_for_giants_says_knee.html

"Down the line, possibly, I could have microfracture surgery—potentially. Who knows what will happen?" He added that "to play three years in this league would be above average." If Jack is guilty of anything here, it's of saying too many words. This quote contains no new information, but it's being read as a sort of smoking gun by some in the media. What we think Jack is saying is this: "Yes, my odds of having microfracture surgery are higher than an average prospect's. But that procedure is entirely hypothetical. It may not happen at all. But if it does, that surgery will happen after I've given multiple years of tremendous value to my next team on my rookie contract."

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132754/myles-jack

[Rausch]

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/04/myles_jack_would_love_to_play_for_giants_says_knee.html



http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132754/myles-jack

Cleared to play is good.

A possible separation of the gristle and bone is bad...

[Mr. Laz]

What's the earliest He would even play this year based off his injury ?
I think he's ready to play immediately.

The risk is about how long his knee lasts.

Microfracture surgery is some serious crap, no telling when it's going to end a career. I wouldn't touch a guy who needs it in his feet with a 10 foot poll.

Many are saying that they doubt Jacks lasts through more than 1 contract.

Imo Jacks will go in the 2nd round, that round is worth the risk of only a 1 contract career.

[jspchief]

What's the earliest He would even play this year based off his injury ?I don't think you take him with the expectation of him playing this year.

[NIUhuskies]

I think he's ready to play immediately.



The risk is about how long his knee lasts.



Microfracture surgery is some serious crap, no telling when it's going to end a career. I wouldn't touch a guy who needs it in his feet with a 10 foot poll.



Many are saying that they doubt Jacks lasts through more than 1 contract.



Imo Jacks will go in the 2nd round, that round is worth the risk of only a 1 contract career.



Travis Kelce had microfracture surgery a few years ago... He's overcome it

[oaklandhater]

I think he's ready to play immediately.

The risk is about how long his knee lasts.

Microfracture surgery is some serious crap, no telling when it's going to end a career. I wouldn't touch a guy who needs it in his feet with a 10 foot poll.

Many are saying that they doubt Jacks lasts through more than 1 contract.

Imo Jacks will go in the 2nd round, that round is worth the risk of only a 1 contract career.

Welp do not want unless its a 4th or later.

[Mr. Laz]

I don't think you take him with the expectation of him playing this year.

I believe you are thinking of Jaylon Smith, he's the one who is going to have to sit out the first season.

Jacks is ready to go, at least until his knee explodes.

[oaklandhater]

Travis Kelce had microfracture surgery a few years ago... He's overcome it

CP had a meltdown when he had his micofracture surgery

[Rausch]

CP had a meltdown when he had his micofracture surgery

It's still about a 50/50 deal...

[Rausch]

I believe you are thinking of Jaylon Smith, he's the one who is going to have to sit out the first season.

Jacks is ready to go, at least until his knee explodes.

Long term I'd take the risk on Smith first...

[Mr. Laz]

Travis Kelce had microfracture surgery a few years ago... He's overcome it
yep, some other players have made it through it too.

Other players have been completely done without warning ... career over.

especially micro in the feet, just destroys careers.

some team will take the risk of Jacks in the 2nd. imo.

[Mr. Laz]

Long term I'd take the risk on Smith first...
really?

wow

I think it's 50/50 that Smith never plays a snap.

[oaklandhater]

yep, some other players have made it through it too.

Other players have been completely done without warning ... career over.

especially micro in the feet, just destroys careers.

some team will take the risk of Jacks in the 2nd. imo.

jadeveon clowney had one done as well and he seem's to be back at full str.

[Rausch]

really?

wow

I think it's 50/50 that Smith never plays a snap.

Possible, but unlikely.

And the upside is much bigger...

[Mr. Laz]

jadeveon clowney had one done as well and he seem's to be back at full str.
That's debatable.



btw i'd like to thank everyone is this thread for getting me talking and distracting me from my cornerback rage. I appreciate it.

My blood pressure has dropped noticeably. :)

[oaklandhater]

That's debatable.



btw i'd like to thank everyone is this thread for getting me talking and distracting me from my cornerback rage. I appreciate it.

My blood pressure has dropped noticeably. :)

It's all good man I'm trying not to think about it as well.

Plenty of time to rage during the regular season :)

[Rausch]

That's debatable.

I have yet to be impressed...



btw i'd like to thank everyone is this thread for getting me talking and distracting me from my cornerback rage. I appreciate it.

My blood pressure has dropped noticeably. :)

After we land the X-Man you'll forget all about that...:)

[Mr. Laz]

Possible, but unlikely.

And the upside is much bigger...
:hmmm:


http://campusinsiders.com/news/jaylon-smith-myles-jack-nfl-draft-stock-03-02-2016

[BigCatDaddy]

Blackbob thread

[Rausch]

:hmmm:


http://campusinsiders.com/news/jaylon-smith-myles-jack-nfl-draft-stock-03-02-2016

Smith's injury is soft tissue (rumor of nerve issues.)

Jack's problem is based in the knee but the same issue that ended Bo jackson's career. He WILL need the microfracture surgery. Not only keeping him out of this year but part of next year as well. Jack even said it himself before the draft (DUMB) even though most teams had figured out as much.

While Smith nearly blew out his entire knee (he didn't, but he came close) those surgeries are now a matter of time and rehab.

Tears of cartilage from bone are much more serious and if not taken care of properly (ie him waiting as long as possible to have the surgery) can and often do end a career...

[Mr. Laz]

Smith's injury is soft tissue (rumor of nerve issues.)

Jack's problem is based in the knee but the same issue that ended Bo jackson's career. He WILL need the microfracture surgery. Not only keeping him out of this year but part of next year as well. Jack even said it himself before the draft (DUMB) even though most teams had figured out as much.

While Smith nearly blew out his entire knee (he didn't, but he came close) those surgeries are now a matter of time and rehab.

Tears of cartilage from bone are much more serious and if not taken care of properly (ie him waiting as long as possible to have the surgery) can and often do end a career...
I didn't realize that the surgery was already definite.

I thought it was 'likely possible in the future'


If Jacks is out this year then he might drop further.

[The Franchise]

If we draft Jack.....then I would immediately get him in for the surgery and sit him all of 2016.

[NIUhuskies]

If we draft Jack.....then I would immediately get him in for the surgery and sit him all of 2016.



He doesn't need the surgery right now. All it is a possibility that he might need it later in his career. It's not guaranteed. If we get him he's playing this year

[Rausch]

I didn't realize that the surgery was already definite.

I thought it was 'likely possible in the future'


If Jacks is out this year then he might drop further.

Opinions differ.

Fact is if you tear the rubber in your joint you're fucked.

It gets fixed quick or it immediately starts to break down in the body...

[Rausch]

He doesn't need the surgery right now.

Wrong.

Prolonging it will only make it worse.

[ChiliConCarnage]

BOOM

Well, you called it, BlackBob.

[NIUhuskies]

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/04/myles_jack_would_love_to_play_for_giants_says_knee.html







http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132754/myles-jack



How is that wrong that he 100% needs the surgery? Read above

[Mr. Laz]

If we draft Jack.....then I would immediately get him in for the surgery and sit him all of 2016.

Might as well take both Jacks and Jaylon, sit them both now.

draft for the future

[Chiefnj2]

Taking Jack in the 2nd round makes no sense for KC. If they liked him they should have grabbed in the first when they have the 5th round option.

[NIUhuskies]

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[Mr. Laz]

Taking Jack in the 2nd round makes no sense for KC. If they liked him they should have grabbed in the first when they have the 5th round option.
taking Jacks in the 2nd make no sense but taking him in the 1st does?


http://www.amusingtime.com/images/025/lol-wut-funny-picture.jpg

[Eleazar]

Source tells me @Chiefs tried to trade up for @SuccessfulQuon, who went to @Vikings at No. 23. KC later traded out of 1st round @SiriusXMNFL


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Gah! I wanted him.

Draft tabulators don't because of his 40 time, but if you saw him play, he's a difference maker and would have been a good fit for us. Another red zone target like that would have been nice.

Dorsey must have been thinking the same way, but I'm sure there would have been a CP meltdown either way

[The Franchise]

taking Jacks in the 2nd make no sense but taking him in the 1st does?


http://www.amusingtime.com/images/025/lol-wut-funny-picture.jpg

By that he means that taking him in the 1st allows you to have that 5th year option on him.....and that means that redshirting his first year isn't that big of a deal. In the 2nd round....you only have him for 4 years.

[Mr. Laz]

By that he means that taking him in the 1st allows you to have that 5th year option on him.....and that means that redshirting his first year isn't that big of a deal. In the 2nd round....you only have him for 4 years.
Yea, but you don't even know if he's going to last the extra year. They would have time to see if he was going to get healthy before the 4 yr contract ends and at a cheaper price.

[Rausch]

If we draft Jack.....then I would immediately get him in for the surgery and sit him all of 2016.

This...

[Rausch]

By that he means that taking him in the 1st allows you to have that 5th year option on him.....and that means that redshirting his first year isn't that big of a deal. In the 2nd round....you only have him for 4 years.

You'll know his future after 2 years, tops...

[Eleazar]

Wrong.

Prolonging it will only make it worse.

Who's to say he will even want to do surgery right away?

[NIUhuskies]

This...



So instead of possibly getting atleast 3/4 years out of him you have him get surgery now which has 50/50 odds he will potentially make it back from and risk having him never play a down for the Chiefs?

That makes absolutely ZERO sense

[Rausch]

So instead of possibly getting atleast 3/4 years out of him you have him get surgery now which has 50/50 odds he will potentially make it back from and risk having him never play a down for the Chiefs?

That makes absolutely ZERO sense

If you don't it just degrades over time.

If you rip that gristle from the bone it dies (this has already happened. ) It DIES and it slowly breaks down.

You don't want it to break down.

[Eleazar]

So instead of possibly getting atleast 3/4 years out of him you have him get surgery now which has 50/50 odds he will potentially make it back from and risk having him never play a down for the Chiefs?

That makes absolutely ZERO sense

Even if he survives the 50/50 chance he'll ever be long term healthy, he could bust like anyone else. It's just too much risk for a first, probably for a second too for most teams

[Mr. Laz]

You'll know his future after 2 years, tops...
Agreed.

[Rausch]

So instead of possibly getting atleast 3/4 years out of him you have him get surgery now which has 50/50 odds he will potentially make it back from and risk having him never play a down for the Chiefs?

That makes absolutely ZERO sense

Yes.

50/50 (which Kelcee had to repair it immediately) is better than waiting.

[el borracho]

Donks fan: "We may have acquired our QBOTF!!!!"
Chiefs fan: "We can still get a guard in the 4th!!!!"

[Rausch]

Donks fan: "We may have acquired our QBOTF!!!!"
Chiefs fan: "We can still get a guard in the 4th!!!!"

No one following this draft would say that of KC...

[BigChiefFan]

Donks fan: "We may have acquired our QBOTF!!!!"
Chiefs fan: "We can still get a guard in the 4th!!!!"

Good stuff, man.

[Chiefshrink]

I don't especially like it, but Dorsey has said more than once that he thought this draft was particularly strong in the middle rounds. Judge it after the draft is over.

and even more in 2-3 yrs.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Donks fan: "We may have acquired Tyler Bray Jr!!!!"
Chiefs fan: "We can still add more pieces to the best roster in the AFC West!!!!"

FYP

[Chiefnj2]

You'll know his future after 2 years, tops...

Not necessarily. What's Ford's future?

[jspchief]

Not necessarily. What's Ford's future?Selling insurance?

[Mr. Laz]

FYP
I'm don't know that you can say that for sure.

Denver Defense > Chiefs Defense
Denver WR > Chiefs WR
Chiefs RB > Denver RB
Chiefs QB > Denver QB
Chiefs Oline > Denver Oline
Denver's coaching > Chiefs coaching
ST = push


If we don't get another Corner, Denver's defense is quite a bit better.

Of course the loss of Malik Jackson could change thing, have to wait and see.


If Denver gets better play from their Oline and QB it's not an easy call.

[BigChiefFan]

Selling insurance?

Lmao.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I'm don't know that you can say that for sure.

Denver Defense > Chiefs Defense
Denver WR > Chiefs WR
Chiefs RB > Denver RB
Chiefs QB > Denver QB
Chiefs Oline > Denver Oline
Denver's coaching > Chiefs coaching
ST = push


If we don't get another Corner, Denver's defense is quite a bit better.

Of course the loss of Malik Jackson could change thing, have to wait and see.


If Denver gets better play from their Oline and QB it's not an easy call.

I can say that and I just did. Don't correct me. More concerned with the Faid at this point.

[Mr. Laz]

I can say that and I just did. Don't correct me.

Yes, Boss.

[NIUhuskies]

This...



Adam Schefter just tweeted this

Dr. James Andrews, who examined Myles Jack in December, told the UCLA LB today that he does not need micro-fracture surgery.

[Chiefshrink]

Adam Schefter just tweeted this

Dr. James Andrews, who examined Myles Jack in December, told the UCLA LB today that he does not need micro-fracture surgery.

:hmmm:

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

So much talent just 4 picks away from us. I love being in a position where we can snag the best available to us. Jack, Ogbah, Alexander. You really can't go wrong.

Dorsey could also trade away our late 4th and a future 3rd to move up this year.

[NIUhuskies]

So much talent just 4 picks away from us. I love being in a position where we can snag the best available to us. Jack, Ogbah, Alexander. You really can't go wrong.

Dorsey could also trade away our late 4th and a future 3rd to move up this year.



If jack is there and we don't take him I'm gonna be so pissed. This guy Jim Thorpe all over again. He's a freak

If he's gone we gotta go w Alexander and then Braxton Miller later in the 2nd

[ChiefsCountry]

Adam Schefter just tweeted this

Dr. James Andrews, who examined Myles Jack in December, told the UCLA LB today that he does not need micro-fracture surgery.

Best sports injury doctor in the world, should be good enough word.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

So assuming the Chiefs are in fact interested in Jack and/or Alexander, and both get taken in two of the first four picks of the second round, then who would be the new target at #37?

Or does Dorsey try and trade back again later into the second round and acquire more picks??

[NIUhuskies]

So assuming the Chiefs are in fact interested in Jack and/or Alexander, and both get taken in two of the first four picks of the second round, then who would be the new target at #37?

Or does Dorsey try and trade back again later into the second round and acquire more picks??



I'd assume either of those Alabama D Tackles. At Least one should be there

[The Franchise]

I'd assume either of those Alabama D Tackles. At Least one should be there

Fuck that garbage. I don't want to draft a 2 down run stuffing DT with our first pick.

[NIUhuskies]

Fuck that garbage. I don't want to draft a 2 down run stuffing DT with our first pick.



I'm with you man, I don't want that either. I'd rather resign Poe and Howard long term

I'm Jack or Alexander or bust. If we have to trade up for Jack then let's do it as far as I'm concerned

[RealSNR]

Not necessarily. What's Ford's future?

Jazz pianist

[New World Order]

So what happened to 'draft best player available?'

And who are the studs Dorsey has picked in the 4th and 6th rounds?

The Mane is laughing at us... again

[temper11]

So we traded our first for a second and our seventh for a 4th. Not a glaring win

Chiefs lost 9 spots in giving up the 28th pick for the 37th pick, but gained 144 spots moving up from the 249 pick to the 105th pic.

If that were the entire deal, I'd think that was a decent trade-off.... but the chiefs also get a chance at one more body or another chip to play with, with the addition of the 178th overall. As much as everyone keeps saying this is a super deep draft, this seems like a very good value add for the chiefs first rounder.

[temper11]

Elway doesn't have a problem making it happen. He decides what he wants and then he goes and gets it.

While we sit on our ass and cry about how unfair it is that all the good players were picked before us.

What if what Dorsey wanted was more picks? He decided he wanted more picks and then went out and got it. Is that not a possibility?

[BigChiefFan]

So assuming the Chiefs are in fact interested in Jack and/or Alexander, and both get taken in two of the first four picks of the second round, then who would be the new target at #37?

Or does Dorsey try and trade back again later into the second round and acquire more picks??

What good are more picks, if we don't get the players we want? Dorsey needs to show some fortitude tonight.

[temper11]

I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.

I think people are just too tied to the round. We only gave up 9 spots. If it is true that this draft is deeper than most, than giving up 9 spots to gain a shit ton of spots and an additional pick seems like solid logic. There isn't a rule that says starters have to be found in the 1st round only. It's 9 picks... in a deep draft. Let's wait and see.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If jack is there and we don't take him I'm gonna be so pissed. This guy Jim Thorpe all over again. He's a freak

If he's gone we gotta go w Alexander and then Braxton Miller later in the 2nd

I would love those scenarios

[RealSNR]

Holy fuck. Cowboys are dumb.

[NIUhuskies]

Wow. Well Jack or Alexander will be there for us now. We better get one of them! Really wants Myles Jack!


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[NIUhuskies]

Jags traded up two spots for Jack bc they must have known the Chiefs were gonna take him. Unreal


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[Ming the Merciless]

On CP, the right move is always to trade up

Except when we have the 1.1

Then the right move is drafting corn fed and switching him back and forth Lt - rt

[New World Order]

Except when we have the 1.1

Then the right move is drafting corn fed and switching him back and forth Lt - rt


LMAO

[Ming the Merciless]

I think people are just too tied to the round. We only gave up 9 spots. If it is true that this draft is deeper than most, than giving up 9 spots to gain a shit ton of spots and an additional pick seems like solid logic. There isn't a rule that says starters have to be found in the 1st round only. It's 9 picks... in a deep draft. Let's wait and see.

It's not a rule, but it's a statistical probability that's had years of proof

[TEX]

I think people are just too tied to the round. We only gave up 9 spots. If it is true that this draft is deeper than most, than giving up 9 spots to gain a shit ton of spots and an additional pick seems like solid logic. There isn't a rule that says starters have to be found in the 1st round only. It's 9 picks... in a deep draft. Let's wait and see.

I think this went down the way it did b/c the Chiefs board got BLOWN UP shortly before they picked. So, trading back represented the best option, in Dorsey's eyes, at the time. It was a reaction move all the way hoping to make the best of a suddenly fucked up situation.

[Rausch]

I think this went down the way it did b/c the Chiefs board got BLOWN UP shortly before they picked. So, trading back represented the best option, in Dorsey's eyes, at the time. It was a reaction move all the way hoping to make the best of a suddenly ****ed up situation.

Looking back after the whole draft is over I still think this was the right move.

It gave us two 2nd round picks and more, and at that time plenty of Day-1-starter talent was on the board.

I might not agree with what he did with those 2nd round picks but trading down was the right move...