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the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 10:42 AM
murray


Overview

Murray's size, durability (started 39 straight games) and physical nature should land him near the top of NFL teams' cornerback wish list. The 2014 second-team and 2015 third-team All-Big Ten selection's experience in press man coverage is extensive, and his ball skills are good enough to make plays (two interceptions, 24 pass break-ups) when given the opportunity. He stepped up his play as a senior, making more plays behind the line (four tackles for loss) and lining up ball carriers for the big hit, forcing three fumbles. He's also a special-teams stalwart who blocked two punts in 2014, which will only increase his impact as a rookie on Sundays.

Analysis
Strengths Plays with excellent technique when running vertically with wideouts. Maintains good positioning and crowds receiver's chest forcing him against the sideline. Looks to smother any and every route underneath from press *man coverage. Talented in trial technique. Uses a quick jab to the shoulder that can be very effective on unsuspecting targets. Not content to ride blocks and battles to get to a tackle in his area. Disciplined in zone coverage. Able to maintain focus on quarterback and wide receiver. Will look to make a play outside his area if he thinks he can jump the throw. Adequate close*out burst to the ball.

Weaknesses Tight in his hips with a labored transition from press coverage. Tightness causes momentary stalling when changing directions laterally putting him behind in his coverage. Let’s weight drift outside his framework causing balance issues. Needs to widen base a little to improve his balance. Top-end speed looks average on tape. Doesn’t have mentality of a small cornerback but his size is a detriment outside. Can be locked down by big, physical receivers when attempting to do his part against the run.

Dylan
04-30-2016, 10:42 AM
did I miss the Giants pick?

I was typing.

All of a sudden we are in Disney World

Strongside
04-30-2016, 10:42 AM
YEAH BOY.

https://embed.gyazo.com/9a5b760bf79623550075bed202556a97.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-06-2016/olGTku.gif

BossChief
04-30-2016, 10:42 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what we are doing at WR.

That position is set.

Maclin
Streater
Conley
Williams
Wilson

They don't even really need to draft one, at all.

chiefs1111
04-30-2016, 10:42 AM
Good pick for the Rams

milkman
04-30-2016, 10:43 AM
The NFL doesn't screw up the draft, ESPN does.

Just cover the fu@king draft you idiots.

With all the people that the NFL honors and the special guests they send out to present the selections, yes, the NFL does screw up the draft.

Just give me the picks and show me some highlights.

I am done watching the shit show.

notorious
04-30-2016, 10:43 AM
At least they told us a little bit about Murray.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 10:44 AM
With all the people that the NFL honors and the special guests they send out to present the selections, yes, the NFL does screw up the draft.

Just give me the picks and show me some highlights.

I am done watching the shit show.

I can stomach the shit show for rounds 2-3. I want more analysis with these picks. Fuck the nonsense

Buehler445
04-30-2016, 10:44 AM
Following the draft via this forum and at NFL.com is a much more enjoyable experience than the crap TV coverage of either NFL Network or ESPN.

Agreed. The tracker on NFL.com is far better.

Dylan
04-30-2016, 10:45 AM
I switched over to ESPN after NFLN called a pick in the heart of Disney World.

jd1020
04-30-2016, 10:46 AM
That position is set.

Maclin
Streater
Conley
Williams
Wilson

They don't even really need to draft one, at all.

I still don't see a #2 on that list and if there's anything to be said about the rumor of trying to trade up for Treadwell the Chiefs don't either.

Red Dawg
04-30-2016, 10:46 AM
That position is set.

Maclin
Streater
Conley
Williams
Wilson

They don't even really need to draft one, at all.

That's what I've been saying. No way do Streeter and Williams not make the team in my opinion. One of them may be let go but Andy has high hopes for Connely.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 10:47 AM
STRENGTHS- Plays with excellent technique when running vertically with wideouts. Maintains good positioning and crowds receiver's chest forcing him against the sideline. Looks to smother any and every route underneath from press *man coverage. Talented in trial technique. Uses a quick jab to the shoulder that can be very effective on unsuspecting targets. Not content to ride blocks and battles to get to a tackle in his area. Disciplined in zone coverage. Able to maintain focus on quarterback and wide receiver. Will look to make a play outside his area if he thinks he can jump the throw. Adequate close*out burst to the ball.


That really stands out.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 10:47 AM
Murray seems like he would have been a much higher pick in an average CB class.

This is one of the best CB classes I've seen, though.

Eleazar
04-30-2016, 10:48 AM
This shit is crazy.

All 4 picks so far have been met with almost universal applause from everybody here.

Is this really CP?

Where's the muthafuck you John Dorsey posts?

I can't wait to hear DJs left nuts thoughts after he's sobered up...

After a few drafts now, you can see what the kind of guy Dorsey wants is. He likes the value picks in the middle rounds, guys he thinks are overlooked or underrated, raw talents, etc.

He drafts like a GM who is supremely confident that they are scouting better than everyone else.

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 10:48 AM
Damn, we have 5 corners under contract for the next 2 years, 4 of them for at least the next 3, and 3 of them for more than that.

Set.

chiefs1111
04-30-2016, 10:48 AM
Malcom Mitchell to the Pats

notorious
04-30-2016, 10:49 AM
Murray seems like he would have been a much higher pick in an average CB class.

This is one of the best CB classes I've seen, though.

Hence the trading back.

Strongside
04-30-2016, 10:49 AM
After a few drafts now, you can see what the kind of guy Dorsey wants is. He likes the value picks in the middle rounds, guys he thinks are overlooked or underrated, raw talents, etc.

He drafts like a GM who is supremely confident that they are scouting better than everyone else.

He drafts like Ted Thompson.

notorious
04-30-2016, 10:49 AM
Damn, we have 5 corners under contract for the next 2 years, 4 of them for at least the next 3, and 3 of them for more than that.

Set.

And half the board had a 12 gauge in their mouths Thursday night.


Shocking!

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 10:50 AM
so interesting ol choice by dorsey with all the guards available

he clearly believes sees things other teams don't (and i'm assuming its in the sparq metrics)

Strengths
Sets up in pass pro with balanced base and good posture. Keeps chin tucked and isn’t caught leaning very often. Wall off run blocker. Plays with good instincts and sees twists and blitzes as they develop. Four-year letterman along offensive line that was one of the better pass protection units during his time there.

Weaknesses
Core strength is below desired level and he can be jarred by a hard punch. Unable to drive his one*-on-one block off the spot and and is poor at sustaining his run blocks. Plays with dead legs in space and change of direction is not functional. Opens up early against edge rush and gives away inside rush lane to counter moves. Marginal anchor. Feet and punch aren’t properly timed up.

Draft Projection
Rounds 6 or 7
Bottom Line Ehringer has the size to be an NFL tackle, but doesn’t have enough athletic ability to be a successful tackle in pass protection. While some may project Ehringer inside due to his lack of quickness, a lack of functional strength at the point of attack could doom that move as well.

Big Tedd
04-30-2016, 10:54 AM
Seems like we have been going after needs so far. Is LB the next choice?

notorious
04-30-2016, 10:55 AM
White linebacker.


Let me guess. Great motor, old-school tough, etc.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 10:56 AM
White linebacker.


Let me guess. Great motor, old-school tough, etc.

Don't forget cerebral

notorious
04-30-2016, 10:56 AM
Don't forget cerebral

How could I forget?

TigeRRUppeRRcut
04-30-2016, 10:57 AM
Murray is a lot like Steven Nelson. Very very similar guys.

Both have short-medium arm length

milkman
04-30-2016, 10:57 AM
Seems like we have been going after needs so far. Is LB the next choice?

When you have needs almost everywhere, then it can appear to be going after needs.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 10:57 AM
After a few drafts now, you can see what the kind of guy Dorsey wants is. He likes the value picks in the middle rounds, guys he thinks are overlooked or underrated, raw talents, etc.

He drafts like a GM who is supremely confident that they are scouting better than everyone else.

He drafts like a GM that trusts his coaching/training staff to take talent and develop it/put it in position to be successful.

It's impressive, really.

KChiefs1
04-30-2016, 11:01 AM
Following the draft via this forum and at NFL.com is a much more enjoyable experience than the crap TV coverage of either NFL Network or ESPN.



I remember the time that watching the draft was a great experience.

KChiefs1
04-30-2016, 11:04 AM
After a few drafts now, you can see what the kind of guy Dorsey wants is. He likes the value picks in the middle rounds, guys he thinks are overlooked or underrated, raw talents, etc.



He drafts like a GM who is supremely confident that they are scouting better than everyone else.



We should be able to identify a typical Dorse pick. He reminds me of how the Packers pick. Big surprise!

KevB
04-30-2016, 11:05 AM
Seems like Cooper is a duplicate of Tavon Austin, not sure why the Rams would take him with so few picks.

KChiefs1
04-30-2016, 11:06 AM
He drafts like a GM that trusts his coaching/training staff to take talent and develop it/put it in position to be successful.



It's impressive, really.



True

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:07 AM
Blake Martinez, ILB from Stanford wouldn't shock me with our next pick. He's sort of a poor man's Luke Kuechly.

chiefscafan
04-30-2016, 11:07 AM
Only pick I haven't like is the o line pick


I take a gamble and get DAK or hogan

O.city
04-30-2016, 11:08 AM
Best way to follow the draft now is twitter

chiefscafan
04-30-2016, 11:08 AM
Good choice Blake Martinez is good

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:10 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing us take a chance on a QB. You could get Dak here, but on the other hand, you could also take a player that may potentially see substantial PT here too, such as a WR or ILB. Besides, if you're taking a chance, you can pick up Cardale Jones in the 5th.

Dylan
04-30-2016, 11:11 AM
LMAO @ the tag...

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-30-2016, 11:11 AM
The Murray pick was good. Not a fan of the Ehinger pick.

Hope they get an ILB or WR with the next pick.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:11 AM
Dorsey almost has to take Billings if he's still there in a few picks, right?

I know there is no need, but Jesus...he has to be BPA.

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:11 AM
Only pick I haven't like is the o line pick


I take a gamble and get DAK or hogan

The Chiefs made the right decision considering they don't have an established left guard on the roster.

Reaching for guys in this draft would be dumb. Guys are dropping at least one round as opposed to a "normal" draft.

Hell, probably two to three rounds when compared to 2013.

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:13 AM
There are guys still being drafted right now that would have been borderline round one picks in 2013.

Dylan
04-30-2016, 11:13 AM
Best way to follow the draft now is twitter

Can I have a link, please?

TIA & God Bless :D

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:13 AM
The Chiefs made the right decision considering they don't have an established left guard on the roster.

Reaching for guys in this draft would be dumb. Guys are dropping at least one round as opposed to a "normal" draft.

Hell, probably two to three rounds when compared to 2013.

Which is why I'm surprised they didn't take Westermann with their first pick

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:14 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can&#39;t wait to have the big guy in town to add another Bearcat to the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs">@Chiefs</a> Congrats brother! <a href="https://twitter.com/BigPark78">@BigPark78</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/GoBEARCATS">@GoBEARCATS</a></p>&mdash; Travis Kelce (@tkelce) <a href="https://twitter.com/tkelce/status/726454138733625344">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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'Hamas' Jenkins
04-30-2016, 11:14 AM
The Chiefs made the right decision considering they don't have an established left guard on the roster.

Reaching for guys in this draft would be dumb. Guys are dropping at least one round as opposed to a "normal" draft.

Hell, probably two to three rounds when compared to 2013.

But couldn't you make the argument that Ehinger was exactly that, a reach? I like that they targeted the position, and I would hope that the evaluation is right, but I wonder if that guy just ends up as Chris Bober.

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:15 AM
Does anyone have the Boomer Grigsby workout video? I remember watching it and thinking he was going to be a HOF LB.

So young, so stupid. LMAO

WhawhaWhat
04-30-2016, 11:15 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash">#Saints</a> traded up… then passed. First one of the year. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash">#Vikings</a> are on the clock. Now both have selected. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Drama?src=hash">#Drama</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/726459900222668800">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:17 AM
You guys see that Westerman is still available, right? Teams aren't exactly rushing to the podium to draft the guy. Every team's board is different and it's obvious that the Chiefs didn't see him as being as good of a player as the guy we took. Plus, check the PFF grades. For what they're worth, the guy we took outperformed Westerman in every single category.

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:18 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash">#Saints</a> traded up… then passed. First one of the year. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash">#Vikings</a> are on the clock. Now both have selected. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Drama?src=hash">#Drama</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/726459900222668800">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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"Look, we need to get in front of Minnesota so we can get our guy! Do it!"

"Ok, it's done! But wait....shit.....WHO DID WE WANT TO MOVE UP FOR AGAIN??"

Rausch
04-30-2016, 11:19 AM
Which is why I'm surprised they didn't take Westermann with their first pick

Is the G from Mizzou still out there?

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 11:19 AM
shit

saints took onyemata

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:19 AM
You guys see that Westerman is still available, right? Teams aren't exactly rushing to the podium to draft the guy. Every team's board is different and it's obvious that the Chiefs didn't see him as being as good of a player as the guy we took. Plus, check the PFF grades. For what they're worth, the guy we took outperformed Westerman in every single category.

Well, good.

I guess that's the problem when you get into the deeper parts of the draft - you start relying on the pundits for info.

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:19 AM
I'm honestly surprised no one has taken Boehm yet. He's a solid player.

BlackOp
04-30-2016, 11:20 AM
Would have picked Willie Beavers...just for his name.

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:20 AM
Is the G from Mizzou still out there?

McGovern? I think. I also think Boehm is still out there.

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:20 AM
Bengals may take Billings.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:20 AM
Billings will probably go to the steelers

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:20 AM
Is the G from Mizzou still out there?

Boehm and McGovern are both still available

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:21 AM
Or the Bengals

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:21 AM
Thought so. Billings. Bengals front 7 just gets nastier.

chiefs1111
04-30-2016, 11:21 AM
There goes Billings

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:21 AM
Dorsey almost has to take Billings if he's still there in a few picks, right?

I know there is no need, but Jesus...he has to be BPA.

Damn.

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2016, 11:21 AM
Bengals are owning it.

Red Dawg
04-30-2016, 11:22 AM
Any chance we take that German WR?

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:22 AM
Bengals may take Billings.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/26/e0/82/26e0828bcb5d2adb1698f962341dee4b.jpg

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:23 AM
And piss on this special announcer crap. Let's just have the picks and move along.

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:23 AM
Bengals are owning it.

And they still won't win a playoff game. :D

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 11:23 AM
that's a good looking draft for the bengals, damn

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:24 AM
And piss on this special announcer crap. Let's just have the picks and move along.

Grumpy?

:D

Hoover
04-30-2016, 11:24 AM
I'd go oline here. So nice talent sitting there for us.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:24 AM
And they still won't win a playoff game. :D

Ugh it has to be painful...we know that feeling all to well

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:24 AM
Potentials for Chiefs here IMO:

Blake Martinez ILB Stanford
Dak Prescott QB Miss State
Aaron Burbridge WR Michigan State
Kolby Listenbee WR TCU
Devon Cajuste WR Stanford

Coach
04-30-2016, 11:24 AM
"How you doing tonight?"

*Looks at the clock, see it's 12:25p.m.*

:facepalm:

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-30-2016, 11:25 AM
For as much as people shit on the Bengals and pundits, the Bengals almost always draft the pundits' BPA, and they routinely extract great value from the draft. That's not an accident.

staylor26
04-30-2016, 11:25 AM
Jatavis Brown or KJ Dillon.

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:25 AM
Grumpy?

:D

I wasn't until they started bumblefucking around with this silly shit. Lol

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:25 AM
FUCK I HATE THIS RICKY GERVAIS SHIT. DIE YOU ENGLISH FUCK.

NIUhuskies
04-30-2016, 11:25 AM
Guarantee it's a player nobody on here has in mind


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mcaj22
04-30-2016, 11:25 AM
lol 5.0 40 time

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:26 AM
For as much as people shit on the Bengals and pundits, the Bengals almost always draft the pundits' BPA, and they routinely extract great value from the draft. That's not an accident.

They do and will be good again...then they fuck up in the playoffs again.

Hoover
04-30-2016, 11:26 AM
Listenbee would be nice here too.

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:26 AM
Dorsey will pull some DIII receiver out of his ass here.....

Priest31kc
04-30-2016, 11:26 AM
FUCK I HATE THIS RICKY GERVAIS SHIT. DIE YOU ENGLISH FUCK.

Love Gervais but yeah these commercials get old quick, not that that's any different than most commercials.

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 11:26 AM
nfl draft crew was laughing so hard about something they had to cut to commercial...came back from pick and no one could talk

lol

Coach
04-30-2016, 11:27 AM
KC on the clock.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:27 AM
Blake Martinez or Dak Prescott would probably be my pick here.

NIUhuskies
04-30-2016, 11:27 AM
nfl draft crew was laughing so hard about something they had to cut to commercial...came back from pick and no one could talk



lol



Eisen thought the word Bush was funny

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:28 AM
Dorsey is a fucking boss. I don't question him at all. I trust each and every decision he's made.

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:28 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NoqdyaQBhr0/Vktr3aRY31I/AAAAAAAAARw/CM5Kqf6polo/s1600/JoeSwanson.jpg

siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 11:28 AM
nfl draft crew was laughing so hard about something they had to cut to commercial...came back from pick and no one could talk

lol

Did somebody make a Bush joke?

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:28 AM
Eisen is laughing because of the name bush. Just said if Johnson goes next he's done. His mind is in the gutter lol

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:29 AM
Maybe Scooby Wright...

Hoover
04-30-2016, 11:29 AM
oh no we are taking Marc Boerichter

dtrain
04-30-2016, 11:29 AM
[QUOTE=the Talking Can;12207581]nfl draft crew was laughing so hard about something they had to cut to commercial...came back from pick and no one could talk

lol[/QUOTE

Deon Bush

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:29 AM
Eisen is laughing because of the name bush. Just said if Johnson goes next he's done. His mind is in the gutter lol

LMAO

siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 11:29 AM
Interesting

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:29 AM
Nice

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Demarcus Bobinson WR, Florida

Coach
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Demarcus Robinson....

ILChief
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
WR

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
DeMarcus Robinson, WR from Florida

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Oh, nice!

He's been a shit head off the field but he's stupid athletic.

Hoover
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Sweet. D-Rob!

Red Dawg
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Wow they did take a WR. I am surprised.

RunKC
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Chiefs were all over this kid and Dane posted the link in the draft thread.

Dude is very quick laterally. 6.7 3 cone.

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Suspended four times at Florida??

TigeRRUppeRRcut
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Well that was interesting

KevB
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
I can't believe we picked that kid with all his off field stuff

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
WR competition will be stiff.

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:30 AM
Yep, it's hard.

Red Dawg
04-30-2016, 11:31 AM
Is he a bone head

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 11:31 AM
Eisen thought the word Bush was funny

and just said before the next pick...'if his name's johnson, we're out....'


eisen is great

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:31 AM
I can't believe we picked that kid with all his off field stuff

Marcus Peters worked out just fine....

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:31 AM
NFLN seems to think it's a good pick because the Chiefs know how to handle players with off the field issues.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:31 AM
That's a pick where Dorsey takes a chance and trusts his locker room to keep these kids in line.

Bewbies
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
I can't believe we picked that kid with all his off field stuff

Our best pick last year got kicked off his college team.

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
Is he a bone head

As long as he can get open, catch balls, and run fast I don't give a shit.

Quesadilla Joe
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
Strengths Talent jumps off the tape early in the session. Electric vertical talent that can make cornerbacks re*think their coverage plans. Has shake at the line of scrimmage to free himself against press coverage and has adequate ball tracking skills. Graceful, flexible athlete with instant turbo acceleration. Has ability to hit the home run after the catch. Races off the line and forced cornerbacks into retreat opening easy comeback catches. Has talent and ability to make a living outside or from the slot.

Weaknesses Routes can be lazy at times. Will need to improve with selling fakes at break point of his routes as a pro. Too reliant on athleticism and speed over improvement of skill level. Hands are a concern with 11 drops to 106 catches at Florida. Plays smaller than his listed size. Suspended four times while at Florida. Scouts call him immature and selfish.

Draft Projection Rounds 6 or 7

Sources Tell Us "I think he's going to struggle off of press, and he didn't make big plays that were there for him sometimes. He's way faster on tape than in timing. He got suspended four times. I'm too old for that (expletive). If you get suspended that much, you are crying out to teams that you won't ever change." -- NFC wide receivers coach

NFL Comparison Mike Wallace

Bottom Line Immensely talented with elite combination of straight-*line speed and quick*-twitch athleticism. Robinson flashes game*-breaking potential as a deep ball threat and after the catch, but was suspended by two different coaches over a three-year period. While Robinson is likely to test off the charts and has the talent to be a top four receiver in this draft, it is hard to imagine his draft slot equaling his talent due to his character concerns.

LMAO at the coach

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
I can't believe we picked that kid with all his off field stuff

Marcus Peters says "Hi".

:D

ILChief
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
Apparently he has issues

TigeRRUppeRRcut
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
WR competition will be stiff.

Smitty is happy. The competition for #2 can't possibly fail with 5 competitors

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
I like the pick with this leadership, if Pioli was here I would hate it.

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2016, 11:32 AM
Damn good pick.

Strongside
04-30-2016, 11:33 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!

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notorious
04-30-2016, 11:33 AM
I like the pick with this leadership, if Pioli was here I would hate it.

I hated everything with Pioli here.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:33 AM
Having great leadership and a great organization will allow this team to take chances and hit home runs on gambles. Some will work some won't. Like the chance they took.

chiefs1111
04-30-2016, 11:34 AM
As a Gator fan I approve this pick. I think the locker room will keep him in line

milkman
04-30-2016, 11:34 AM
So, with Maclin, Conley, Streater, Williams, and now this kid Robinson, does Albert Wilson even make the final 53?

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:35 AM
Florida's QB's have been shit, too. This kid might have something.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:35 AM
I know he's bigger, but this kid screams Desean Jackson with his style of play.

Coach
04-30-2016, 11:35 AM
So, with Maclin, Conley, Streater, Williams, and now this kid Robinson, does Albert Wilson even make the final 53?

He probably will as a special teamer, I think. But anything can happen.

RINGLEADER
04-30-2016, 11:35 AM
and just said before the next pick...'if his name's johnson, we're out....'


eisen is great

It started with Mayock saying he was "very much a Beavers guy."

Then the next pick was Deon Bush and everyone but Mayock lost it - Mayock made it worst by saying "Bush first caught my eye at the East-West game..."

It was over from that point...

BossChief
04-30-2016, 11:36 AM
Bye, DAT.

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 11:36 AM
De'Anthony Thomas' roster spot is in SERIOUS question at this point.

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2016, 11:36 AM
Kansas City suburbs back to back picks.

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 11:36 AM
dorsey don't give a ****...i like it

Strengths
Talent jumps off the tape early in the session. Electric vertical talent that can make cornerbacks re*think their coverage plans. Has shake at the line of scrimmage to free himself against press coverage and has adequate ball tracking skills. Graceful, flexible athlete with instant turbo acceleration. Has ability to hit the home run after the catch. Races off the line and forced cornerbacks into retreat opening easy comeback catches. Has talent and ability to make a living outside or from the slot.

Weaknesses
Routes can be lazy at times. Will need to improve with selling fakes at break point of his routes as a pro. Too reliant on athleticism and speed over improvement of skill level. Hands are a concern with 11 drops to 106 catches at Florida. Plays smaller than his listed size. Suspended four times while at Florida. Scouts call him immature and selfish.
Draft Projection
Rounds 6 or 7
Sources Tell Us "I think he's going to struggle off of press, and he didn't make big plays that were there for him sometimes. He's way faster on tape than in timing. He got suspended four times. I'm too old for that (expletive). If you get suspended that much, you are crying out to teams that you won't ever change." -- NFC wide receivers coach

NFL Comparison
Mike Wallace

Bottom Line
Immensely talented with elite combination of straight-*line speed and quick*-twitch athleticism. Robinson flashes game*-breaking potential as a deep ball threat and after the catch, but was suspended by two different coaches over a three-year period. While Robinson is likely to test off the charts and has the talent to be a top four receiver in this draft, it is hard to imagine his draft slot equaling his talent due to his character concerns.

milkman
04-30-2016, 11:37 AM
De'Anthony Thomas' roster spot is in SERIOUS question at this point.

At this point?

KChiefs1
04-30-2016, 11:37 AM
Oh, nice!

He's been a shit head off the field but he's stupid athletic.



http://youtu.be/p8C52TRK9Zo

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:37 AM
So, with Maclin, Conley, Streater, Williams, and now this kid Robinson, does Albert Wilson even make the final 53?

Let's hope not.

Don't forget Da'Ron Brown, who was impressive in preseason, and spent the season on the PS.

KevB
04-30-2016, 11:37 AM
Our best pick last year got kicked off his college team.

Not close to the same situations

KChiefs1
04-30-2016, 11:38 AM
Suspended four times at Florida??



Marcus Peters type.

Coach
04-30-2016, 11:38 AM
I think DeAnthony Thomas roster spot is more in danger than Wilson at this point because Thomas is always hurt, and with the concussion issue....

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 11:38 AM
Best guesses at the WR and CB depth charts at this moment?

I'll go:

1. Maclin
2. Conley
3. Streater
4. Wilson
5. Williams
6. Robinson

CB:
1. Peters
2. Russell
3. Gaines
4. Nelson
5. Murray

Toby Waller
04-30-2016, 11:39 AM
Rams get a guy named Pharaoh?
I wonder if he knows Jihad?

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:40 AM
I think DeAnthony Thomas roster spot is more in danger than Wilson at this point because Thomas is always hurt, and with the concussion issue....

Wilson isn't going anywhere.


He is useful. If we get a proper #2 he is going to get WIDE open from the slot and is quite good in the open field.

RunKC
04-30-2016, 11:40 AM
DAT's replacement and probably a slot guy who won't play much there until 2017 when Streater is gone.

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:40 AM
Wilson isn't going anywhere.


He is useful. If we get a proper #2 he is going to get WIDE open from the slot and is quite good in the open field.

He's useful as a soft bitch

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:41 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/p8C52TRK9Zo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

He looks like a matchup nightmare in the slot

jd1020
04-30-2016, 11:41 AM
Best guesses at the WR and CB depth charts at this moment?

I'll go:

1. Maclin
2. Conley
3. Streater
4. Wilson
5. Williams
6. Robinson

I can't see Streater being that high currently. He's played 4 games in the last 2 years. Wilson has to be ahead of him.

Eleazar
04-30-2016, 11:42 AM
Radio compared his game to Mike Wallace

KChiefs1
04-30-2016, 11:42 AM
De'Anthony Thomas' roster spot is in SERIOUS question at this point.



Who?

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:43 AM
He's useful as a soft bitch


He gives up his body to catch the ball, unlike someone we all know. (we're looking your way, Wilson)


100% agreement.

siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 11:43 AM
Radio compared his game to Mike Wallace

The 60 Minutes guy?

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:44 AM
They sure turned this WR core around in a hurry

Eleazar
04-30-2016, 11:44 AM
Fascinating that we are still talking about DeActivated Thomas... a guy who has what, 300 yards as a pro

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:44 AM
100% agreement.

I'm curious to see him this season fully healthy.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:45 AM
Fascinating that we are still talking about DeActivated Thomas... a guy who has what, 300 yards as a pro

Lol

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:45 AM
The 60 Minutes guy?

LMAO

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:46 AM
Radio compared his game to Mike Wallace

Which makes zero sense because Robinson ran a 4.59 and Wallace is a straight line speedster that ran a 4.33 at the Combine.

He's more like Dwayne Bowe but with better receiving ability.

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 11:47 AM
Who do you want in the 5th?

I'd like to see Prescott or Hogan, along with another OL (McGovern?)

KChiefs1
04-30-2016, 11:47 AM
The 60 Minutes guy?



Showing your age.

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:47 AM
Who do you want in the 5th?

I'd like to see Prescott or Hogan, along with another OL (McGovern?)

I'd prefer McGovern

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 11:48 AM
I'd prefer McGovern

2 picks again though, could get both. Forgot Westerman is still available too

NIUhuskies
04-30-2016, 11:48 AM
Wouldn't mind Cardale Jones or Prescott in the 5th


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kccrow
04-30-2016, 11:49 AM
Chiefs 4th round picks suck a bag of dicks. Fuck this shit. I'm going back to bed.

Toby Waller
04-30-2016, 11:49 AM
The Raiders draft Connor Cook after having success with Carr?
Interesting...

Trade bait?

chiefscafan
04-30-2016, 11:52 AM
Damn wanted DAK oh well

jd1020
04-30-2016, 11:53 AM
Gale Sayers and those Cowboys announcers are prime examples of why this shit is stupid.

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 11:53 AM
lol at that pick announcement


cowboys take prescott

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 11:53 AM
https://twitter.com/gopherfootball/status/726452094933172224

FWIW

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2016, 11:54 AM
Gale Sayers and those Cowboys announcers are prime examples of why this shit is stupid.

It's for the True Fan fags.

chiefscafan
04-30-2016, 11:54 AM
Lol this whole having others announce is comical and cheasy as all hell

NIUhuskies
04-30-2016, 11:54 AM
Just saw this on Twitter from BJ Kissel.

Text from NFL scout... "Chiefs just stole Demarcus Robinson."


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siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 11:54 AM
I'm shocked Plummer has anything to do with football anymore

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:54 AM
Broncos take Booker

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:55 AM
The Donkey mascot fell on his ass skiing in. LMAO

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 11:55 AM
Good pick by Denver.

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:55 AM
I'm shocked Plummer has anything to do with football anymore

I'm shocked he wasn't so stoned out of his brain that he could read the card

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 11:56 AM
hard not to like jake plummer, bet he's high as fuck

jd1020
04-30-2016, 11:56 AM
The Donkey mascot fell on his ass skiing in. LMAO

He was snowboarding. Get your head in the game.

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 11:56 AM
The Donkey mascot fell on his ass skiing in. LMAO

ROFL seen that

notorious
04-30-2016, 11:57 AM
He was snowboarding. Get your head in the game.

I am a flat-lander. I don't know shit.

siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 11:57 AM
I'm shocked he wasn't so stoned out of his brain that he could read the card

ROFL So true

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 11:58 AM
I'm shocked Plummer has anything to do with football anymore

He offered to come out of retirement to play for the Broncos this year

Bowser
04-30-2016, 11:59 AM
I am a flat-lander. I don't know shit.

Fuck that. You did great pointing out and laughing at their mascot.

jd1020
04-30-2016, 11:59 AM
I am a flat-lander. I don't know shit.

:)

BossChief
04-30-2016, 12:00 PM
Which makes zero sense because Robinson ran a 4.59 and Wallace is a straight line speedster that ran a 4.33 at the Combine.

He's more like Dwayne Bowe but with better receiving ability.

He plays way faster than that, though.

WAYY faster.

siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 12:01 PM
He offered to come out of retirement to play for the Broncos this year

Proof that he was high

chiefs1111
04-30-2016, 12:01 PM
Woah Cardale Jones to the Bills

BossChief
04-30-2016, 12:01 PM
He offered to come out of retirement to play for the Broncos this year

Iirc he only retired because Denver traded him to TB and he didn't want to go...and his friend died in the war.

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2016, 12:01 PM
Bills are raping this draft.

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 12:03 PM
bills take jones

notorious
04-30-2016, 12:03 PM
Tardale Jones is off the board.

NIUhuskies
04-30-2016, 12:04 PM
Any decent QBs left?


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notorious
04-30-2016, 12:05 PM
Sanchez is either amazing or a piece of shit.

You never know what is going to happen.

siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 12:05 PM
Proof that he was high

In all seriousness I thought he checked out and never looked back. But this story is interesting:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25519335/totally-not-stoned-jake-plummer-thought-about-returning-to-broncos

kccrow
04-30-2016, 12:06 PM
Any decent QBs left?


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Allen and Hogan

penbrook
04-30-2016, 12:07 PM
Any decent QBs left?


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Brandon Allen and Vernon Adams?? Keenan Reynolds would be a we some pick. He would be a athlete position

notorious
04-30-2016, 12:07 PM
What does a 6th-7th round pick make in salary if he gets cut before the season?

NIUhuskies
04-30-2016, 12:08 PM
Brandon Allen and Vernon Adams?? Keenan Reynolds would be a we some pick. He would be a athlete position



How does it work w Reynolds military commitment?

Big Tedd
04-30-2016, 12:08 PM
Any decent QBs left?


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I wouldn't be pissed if the Chiefs took a chance on Sudfeld.

notorious
04-30-2016, 12:09 PM
Raiders hosting party outside of stadium due to sewer backing up to the upper deck.

kccrow
04-30-2016, 12:10 PM
I wouldn't be pissed if the Chiefs took a chance on Sudfeld.


:shake:

siberian khatru
04-30-2016, 12:11 PM
Fuck, a Mizzou guy is a Donk

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 12:11 PM
Damn. Hope McGovern sucks.

R8RFAN
04-30-2016, 12:11 PM
Raiders hosting party outside of stadium due to sewer backing up to the upper deck.

In Mexico dumbass :)

penbrook
04-30-2016, 12:11 PM
How does it work w Reynolds military commitment?

Look at Pats TE Joe Cardona who started all 18 games last year. He's in the Navy

notorious
04-30-2016, 12:12 PM
In Mexico dumbass :)

:D

MotherfuckerJones
04-30-2016, 12:13 PM
In Mexico dumbass :)

Joseph was the definition of a REACH

Dante84
04-30-2016, 12:13 PM
In Mexico dumbass :)

...because the sewage was backed up in Oakland...

kccrow
04-30-2016, 12:15 PM
Oh yay, Broncos took McGovern... damnit. Actually, their last 3 picks have been absolute nails.

Add that to my already bad attitude about the Chargers getting Perry. gaah.

R8RFAN
04-30-2016, 12:16 PM
Joseph was the definition of a REACH

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chiefscafan
04-30-2016, 12:17 PM
No players traded this draft that's interesting

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 12:17 PM
Let's take a second to think about how many solid ass defenses there could be in the AFC this year. It's pretty crazy. Off the top of my head:

KC
DEN
OAK
NE
NYJ
BUF
CIN
JAX
HOU

And all of the other teams, outside of say Cleveland and Indy, have potentially great talent.. It's pretty crazy to me.

notorious
04-30-2016, 12:18 PM
I can appreciate your enthusiasm, r8ers, because we have an over-abundance on here for the draft, but I would personally avoid any WVU defender like the plague.

That defense has been historically bad for a long time.

the Talking Can
04-30-2016, 12:20 PM
seattle traded a 4th next year to pats

to draft quinton jefferson

Toby Waller
04-30-2016, 12:22 PM
Let's take a second to think about how many solid ass defenses there could be in the AFC this year. It's pretty crazy. Off the top of my head:

KC
DEN
OAK
NE
NYJ
BUF
CIN
JAX
HOU

And all of the other teams, outside of say Cleveland and Indy, have potentially great talent.. It's pretty crazy to me.

It will amount to didly. Do you want a season full of low scores?

DaKCMan AP
04-30-2016, 12:28 PM
Demarcus Robinson is an interesting pick. Kid is stupid talented. Athletic, strong, big play and run after the catch ability. A bit of a headache who has had some trouble with authority, doesn't run the crises of routes, and sometimes let's his emotions get the best of him. But super high ceiling and a potential home run impact guy. Could become an Anquan Boldin, Terrell Owens type.

penbrook
04-30-2016, 12:31 PM
Demarcus Robinson is an interesting pick. Kid is stupid talented. Athletic, strong, big play and run after the catch ability. A bit of a headache who has had some trouble with authority, doesn't run the crises of routes, and sometimes let's his emotions get the best of him. But super high ceiling and a potential home run impact guy. Could become an Anquan Boldin, Terrell Owens type.

Hold off don't compare him to a Hall of Famer in TO. He can't be tht good

chiefscafan
04-30-2016, 12:31 PM
Ok our pick is coming up any idea guys??

Chief Northman
04-30-2016, 12:31 PM
I am mildly surprised an attempt to draft some insurance behind Houston/Hali/Ford has not materialized.

Guys like Holmes or Ochi could maybe be had this round and would provide some competitive depth.

pugsnotdrugs19
04-30-2016, 12:34 PM
I am mildly surprised an attempt to draft some insurance behind Houston/Hali/Ford has not materialized.

Guys like Holmes or Ochi could maybe be had this round and would provide some competitive depth.

They clearly feel pretty good about Houston's recovery, I'd say

Big Tedd
04-30-2016, 12:34 PM
Ok our pick is coming up any idea guys??

Scooby!!!

Sandy Vagina
04-30-2016, 12:34 PM
4 more picks to be made by KC.

DE, CB, G, CB, WR were addressed. Aside from maybe a QB to battle for QB3.. what's left? Just BPA depth to compete for a roster spot?

DaKCMan AP
04-30-2016, 12:35 PM
Hold off don't compare him to a Hall of Famer in TO. He can't be tht good

That type of player/style, not that he's TO or Boldin.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 12:36 PM
Demarcus Robinson is an interesting pick. Kid is stupid talented. Athletic, strong, big play and run after the catch ability. A bit of a headache who has had some trouble with authority, doesn't run the crises of routes, and sometimes let's his emotions get the best of him. But super high ceiling and a potential home run impact guy. Could become an Anquan Boldin, Terrell Owens type.

You're just fucking with me, right?

If you were in the CP mock, what round do you think you would have taken him?

Sandy Vagina
04-30-2016, 12:36 PM
Ok our pick is coming up any idea guys??

I would like the pick to be Jalen Mills. Can play CB or S.. and would likely upgrade the depth at S.. with a chance to start in 2017 if Eric... uhm... enough said.

kccrow
04-30-2016, 12:36 PM
Scooby!!!

I'd rather Brothers myself.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 12:37 PM
When I watched him, he reminded me of Desean Jackson...is that a fair comparison, Mr. Awesome?

Cmd'r&Chief
04-30-2016, 12:37 PM
4 more picks to be made by KC.

DE, CB, G, CB, WR were addressed. Aside from maybe a QB to battle for QB3.. what's left? Just BPA depth to compete for a roster spot?
I don't think we can have enough WRs. We'll see How Conley ends up playing in his second year, but if he's not able to step up, we may not have a legitimate #2 option.

NIUhuskies
04-30-2016, 12:37 PM
Perez Ford please


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Big Tedd
04-30-2016, 12:38 PM
Jeremy Cash is still there too.

Sandy Vagina
04-30-2016, 12:39 PM
I don't think we can have enough WRs. We'll see How Conley ends up playing in his second year, but if he's not able to step up, we may not have a legitimate #2 option.

in that case, I'm still beating my meat.. uhm... drum... for UCLA's Jordan Payton. I think he is a safe prospect to become a solid #2.

DaKCMan AP
04-30-2016, 12:39 PM
You're just fucking with me, right?

If you were in the CP mock, what round do you think you would have taken him?

Depends on how the mock was going 4th-6th. He's boom/bust. Has all of the ability but could flame out due to lack of dedication or focus. If he didn't have shit at QB his whole time at Florida and didn't get suspended he would have been a 2nd rounder, IMO.

kccrow
04-30-2016, 12:39 PM
When I watched him, he reminded me of Desean Jackson...is that a fair comparison, Mr. Awesome?

He is nowhere near as fast as Jackson. He isn't as fast as Maclin. He's not even that fast. He's quick, good change of direction.

splatbass
04-30-2016, 12:40 PM
It will amount to didly. Do you want a season full of low scores?

I don't have a problem with it. I was watching football for decades before they changed the rules to get more scoring. I think it was better then.

Sandy Vagina
04-30-2016, 12:40 PM
in that case, I'm still beating my meat.. uhm... drum... for UCLA's Jordan Payton. I think he is a safe prospect to become a solid #2.

shit... nevermind... Browns just selected him.

DaKCMan AP
04-30-2016, 12:41 PM
When I watched him, he reminded me of Desean Jackson...is that a fair comparison, Mr. Awesome?

No, I don't think so. DeSean is tiny and fast. Demarcus is strong and athletic.

RunKC
04-30-2016, 12:41 PM
He has elite lateral speed and average straight line. Pretty much the complete opposite of Chris Conley.

staylor26
04-30-2016, 12:41 PM
He is nowhere near as fast as Jackson. He isn't as fast as Maclin. He's not even that fast, but he plays fast. He's quick, great change of direction.

Fixed.

kc79
04-30-2016, 12:42 PM
What do you guys think about Curt Maggitt OLB of TENN

kccrow
04-30-2016, 12:43 PM
Fixed.

You can tell he's a 4.5+ guy. He doesn't have an elite gear he can get to. He's perfect for the slot actually. Run those quick underneath routes. I just thought Higgins would have been the less risky pick because Higgins is the exact same player.

BossChief
04-30-2016, 12:44 PM
Depends on how the mock was going 4th-6th. He's boom/bust. Has all of the ability but could flame out due to lack of dedication or focus. If he didn't have shit at QB his whole time at Florida and didn't get suspended he would have been a 2nd rounder, IMO.

:thumb:

Chief Northman
04-30-2016, 12:47 PM
You can tell he's a 4.5+ guy. He doesn't have an elite gear he can get to. He's perfect for the slot actually. Run those quick underneath routes. I just thought Higgins would have been the less risky pick because Higgins is the exact same player.

I think one possible deciding factor is/was competition faced.
Not a huge fan of the pick as I like Higgins too, but I understand it.

Toby Waller
04-30-2016, 12:47 PM
He has elite lateral speed and average straight line. Pretty much the complete opposite of Chris Conley.

Lol at elite lateral speed.

There's no such thing

staylor26
04-30-2016, 12:48 PM
Depends on how the mock was going 4th-6th. He's boom/bust. Has all of the ability but could flame out due to lack of dedication or focus. If he didn't have shit at QB his whole time at Florida and didn't get suspended he would have been a 2nd rounder, IMO.

As a Hurricanes fan that's seen him quite a bit, I agree with all of this.

KevB
04-30-2016, 12:53 PM
Watching his video over on Draft Breakdown, he's a pretty impressive player against good competition. Not elite speed, but plenty good enough to challenge corners and not allow them to sit down on shorter routes. Big enough to be physical, but doesn't really appear to be his game. One thing I didn't like was that when he gets to the sideline, he'd rather step out than take some contact for another 2-3 yards.

staylor26
04-30-2016, 12:54 PM
Please draft Jatavis Brown and KJ Dillon here.

DaneMcCloud
04-30-2016, 12:55 PM
Please draft Jatavis Brown and KJ Dillon here.

I see Brown as a UDFA