Yelp ranks the top 25 BBQ joints in MO

[jjchieffan]

This looks like a whole lot of fail to me. Kansas City doesn't even crack the list until number 6?? Really?? Granted I have never had most of these places outside of KC. But knowing that KC has some of the best BBQ anywhere, I just feel that they are not being adequately represented.





1) Bogart’s Smokehouse – St. Louis

If you’re from St. Louis and you haven’t eaten Bogart’s we won’t tell anyone as long as you go try it … right now. No. 1 in STL and No. 18 in the US for 2016, this crowd favorite isn’t a surprise to BBQ fanatics. We’d tell you what to order, but it doesn’t matter—they prepare everything with passion (but we’re partial to the ribs.)

2) Gobble STOP Smokehouse – Creve Coeur

You’ve heard of the big players in town, but chances are you’ve skipped skipped over No. 2, Gobble STOP. Small but mighty, they boast the best BBQ turkey in the area. Order some BBQ turkey tips or turkey wings, and forget all your worries.

3) Adam’s Smokehouse – St. Louis

Adam’s Smokehouse was born from the brilliance of a former Pappy’s Smokehouse alum. They do it all, but make sure to try their garlic smoked salami while you’re there. Get saucy with the Carolina Vinegar, Cranberry Cayenne and Sweet Jane sauces.

4) City Butcher and Barbecue – Springfield

This Austin, Texas-inspired BBQ shop does much more than just Texas-style BBQ — City Butcher doubles as an artisan butcher shop. Get your beef brisket to go with some hand-made sausages to grill up on the weekend.

5) Pappy’s Smokehouse – St. Louis

If you know St. Louis, then you know Pappy’s. This top-dog serves some of the best Memphis-style BBQ in STL. Go hungry and order The Big Ben – A full slab of ribs, a beef brisket and pork sandwich, 1/4 Chicken, and four sides.

6) Q39 – Kansas City

Q39 is newer to the KC BBQ scene, and it quickly climbed the ranks as the #1 BBQ spot in KCMO. Boasting excellent smoked meats, house-made sauces, and a cool atmosphere to boot, there’s no question to why Q39 is a destination.

7) Jack Stack Barbecue – Martin City/Kansas City

With several locations around KC, Jack Stack in Martin City is where it all began. This classic, wood-lined restaurant is a perfect window into the culinary vastness of the Kansas City BBQ scene.

8) Danna’s Bar-B-Que and Burger Shop – Branson

Danna’s is a family-run joint that proudly and perfectly smokes their meats. Try their ol’ fashioned smoked pork plate or splurge on their BBQ nachos.

9) Andre’s Ribs – St. Louis

If it has “ribs” in the name then you can probably guess what you should order. Andre’s slow cooks and dry rubs all their ribs to tender perfection. If you aren’t in the mood for ribs and want to taste a St. Louis classic, then snag a pork steak.

10) The Shaved Duck – St. Louis

The Shaved Duck is the perfect BBQ restaurant if you’re looking for top-notch table service with some world-class food. Order the smothered fries topped with pulled rib, pork meat, and cheese sauce. You’ll never go hungry again.

11) Vernon’s BBQ & Catering – St. Louis

Vernon’s prides itself in quality BBQ, whether you’re eating it at their brick-and-mortar or at a catered event. Everyone knows that having unforgettable sides separates the boys from the men, and the tequilla lime green beans and Aunt Jan’s burnt end beans pair well with a full order of pulled pork.

12) Sugarfire Smoke House – St. Louis

Sugarfire is a major player in Missouri BBQ with six locations in Missouri. They do BBQ well, and they do it big. Order the Meat Daddy and you’ll have enough food for your next three meals.

13) Back Rack BBQ & Catering – North Kansas City

Isn’t it funny how it only takes a few seconds to devour meat that’s smoked for over 12 hours? Back Rack BBQ serves its delectable smoked meats straight from their truck.

14) Roper’s Ribs – St. Louis

Roper’s has some of the best BBQ around, and if your taste buds are a fan, you can purchase their dry rub for your home cooking. Try the “Traveler’s Special” and you’ll get to sample a bit of everything.

15) A Little BBQ Joint – Independence

Don’t let the name fool you — Little BBQ Joint packs a big taste. Pro tip: you can add three ribs to any order … the perfect add-on.

16) Shotgun Pete’s BBQ Shack – Columbia

Columbia locals know Shotgun Pete’s as their resident BBQ experts. After you decide between the pulled pork BBQ sandwiches and the hickory-smoked spare ribs, you’ll have to choose from one of their six homemade sauces. Good luck with that.

17) Spare No Rib -St. Louis

Spare No Rib is not your typical BBQ spot and deviates from the traditional status quo — it’s the perfect marriage of Mexican and BBQ. This is your new go-to when you’re craving a half rack of ribs with a quality margarita.

18) Char Bar – Kansas City

The only thing that rivals the smoked meats and extensive menu at Char Bar is their spacious patio; bocce, bags and beers make this spot feel like an ongoing tailgate party, and you’re invited.

19) Danny’s Edward’s Boulevard BBQ – Kansas City

The history is strong at Danny Edwards, where this family-run spot dates back to the 1930′s. Some things never change, as locals love grabbing lunch at this KC classic.

20) Smoking Barrels BBQ – St. Louis

If you haven’t figured it out by now, locals love their BBQ smoked. Follow the smells to Smoking Barrels and try their smoked-to-perfection pulled pork.

21) Dalie’s Smokehouse – Valley Park

Dalie’s is the lovechild of Bogart’s and Pappy’s you read about earlier on the list. You no longer have to drive to the city to try highly rated BBQ! Dine in and you can get a local beer or glass of wine with your half rack of ribs.

22) Salt+Smoke, BBQ Bourbon and Beer – University City

Salt+Smoke is known for their craft cocktails and bourbon list as much as their tasty BBQ. Try their smoked wings for something different, and pair it with one of their barrel-aged cocktails.

23) Dempsey’s BBQ – Concordia

When it comes to off the beaten path, Dempsey’s is a top dog. This family run BBQ destination proudly serves up some of the best dry rubbed ribs and brisket in the area.

24) Back Porch B-B-Q – Kansas City

Making it in the KC BBQ scene is a tough business and Back Porch is earning their seat. Yelpers love the hospitality as much as the food. When you’re at Back Porch, you’re at home.

25) Elbow Inn & BBQ Pit – Saint Robert

Elbow Inn & BBQ Pit is a Route 66 gem that offers a taste of America off the beaten path — only in Missouri can you get a rib dinner on the road. Bookmark this one for your next road trip.

Honorary Mention: Joe’s Kansas City BBQ - Kansas City, Kansas


The recently rebranded Joe’s KC earns an honorable mention. Located one mile from the Missouri/Kansas border, it’s worth the extra mile. This BBQ powerhouse is No. 4 highest rated restaurant on Yelp in 2016—and home of the legendary Z-Man sandwich. Even though it’s a mile outside of Missouri, Joe’s has to be included in the best BBQ conversation!

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[MTG#10]

Joe's only got an honorary mention?

ROFL

[MTG#10]

City Butcher in Springfield has some amazing brisket, probably the best Ive ever had but everything else there is just meh.

[SAUTO]

Joe's only got an honorary mention?

ROFL

It's not in Missouri

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Joe's only got an honorary mention?

ROFL

Read much?

[Bwana]

It's not in Missouri

Ouch

[Buns]

No love for Arthur Bryants?

[MIAdragon]

Fuck Yelp

[SAUTO]

Ouch

It even said it in the article

[eDave]

Tell me about Back Rack BBQ & Catering. Looks like I will have to track them down on my next visit to KC.

[MTG#10]

It's not in Missouri

I thought there was one in Lee Summit

[Why Not?]

Meh. I'm guessing a whole bunch of folks who love places like Gates and Arthur Bryant's don't take the time to review them on Yelp.

I would be in that group

[unlurking]

Tell me about Back Rack BBQ & Catering. Looks like I will have to track them down on my next visit to KC.
Was planning on hitting Joe's next month. Guess I'll have to rethink that plan now. Back Rack you say? Is that like Walmart cleavage?

[New World Order]

Meh. I'm guessing a whole bunch of folks who love places like Gates and Arthur Bryant's don't take the time to review them on Yelp.

I would be in that group


Same.

Bryant's is my favoritep lace to eat.

[SAUTO]

Was planning on hitting Joe's next month. Guess I'll have to rethink that plan now. Back Rack you say? Is that like Walmart cleavage?

Why? Joes is pretty good.

It's not top 25 in mo because it's not in mo.

[SAUTO]

I really like slaps meats. And their potato casserole thing is fucking awesome but it's in ks also

[Sassy Squatch]

No love for Arthur Bryants?
Meh. The only worthwhile thing from Arthur Bryants can be picked up at any grocery store. Their meat is inconsistent, their fries just plain suck, and the staff seems to be borderline retarded some days.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I didn't realize how dominant STLs Q game was :)

[SAUTO]

I didn't realize how dominant STLs Q game was :)

It's not.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's not.

I agree. Such a weird list.

[Unsmooth-Moment]

City butcher is amazing.


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[PunkinDrublic]

Nothing in Shit Louis can beat KC que. List is absolute garbage.

[unlurking]

Why? Joes is pretty good.

It's not top 25 in mo because it's not in mo.
Was just being sarcastic. No intention of skipping Joe's in favor of Back Rack.

[SAUTO]

Was just being sarcastic. No intention of skipping Joe's in favor of Back Rack.

Got ya. :D

It sounded crazy though.

[alpha_omega]

Ha. Another reason to hate St. Loser.

[WhawhaWhat]

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[stevieray]

Woodyard.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

LOL at City Butcher being better than anything in Kansas City. They have some great meat, but a lot of it is way over-seasoned and really brings the overall quality down. Pappy's I can see that high. The others in the top 5 I have not been to.

[KChiefs1]

Laughable list.


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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Shotgun Pete's is the motherfucking truth.

[splatbass]

I ate at Dalie’s Smokehouse when I was in St. Louis last month. It was quite good.

What the hell is up with KC, no one uses the internet there? St. Louis really dominated this, and KC BBQ is better.

[TribalElder]

Some St. Louis bias there

Gates? That's in MO.

[srvy]

Wow didn't know St Lou was the world leader in que. To be honest most this list I have never had even the KC ones in the list. So in short I can't say they aren't deserving just skeptical.

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[Baby Lee]

Wow didn't know St Lou was the world leader in que. To be honest most this list I have never had even the KC ones in the list. So in short I can't say they aren't deserving just skeptical.

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The St. Lou Q scene is really good, but they're all toddlers. Imagine if in the past 5-10 years, 5-6 Q39s popped up in KC.

Bandana's whetted the people's appetite. It's good, but chain good, not institution good, certainly not Joe's KC or JackStack good. Just locations everywhere with decent reliable Q.

Then came Pappys. Pappys is to St.Lou Q what Korean Fusion is to LA food trucks. Every day is a line 75-125 deep. In my opinion, their sauces are pedestrian, bordering on boring. But their meat is on point. They time everything about the lunch rush, and when things run out, they're out. End of story. So the meat is consumed when it's supposed to be, and that's a big part of it's quality control.

The others are decent, but more importantly, hustling. It's a Q arms race going on right now.

I can personally vouch for Bogarts, Sugarfire and Salt and Smoke.

Others have been around longer, but all the good shit is pretty new.

Also, in the past year Pappy's brain trust has stretched into Nashville hot chicken game with Southern, which might, MIGHT be the best restaurant in all of Missouri right now.

Ogasmic is not hyperbole.


http://www.stlsouthern.com/

[luv]

LOL at City Butcher being better than anything in Kansas City. They have some great meat, but a lot of it is way over-seasoned and really brings the overall quality down. Pappy's I can see that high. The others in the top 5 I have not been to.

City Butcher is excellent. Different tastes, I guess. Still not better than KC, but that's my opinion. Definitely sounds like the author was a fan of the Lou...lol.

[Couch-Potato]

Absurd. The best BBQ in MO, is in KC. No contest.


They just mad bc the Rams took off for LA, now their trying to compete more heavily in the BBQ game. Whack.

[King_Chief_Fan]

I have eaten at 1-5-12 in St. Louis.

I have yet to find one in KC that beats any of those 3.

I actually like Pappy's and Sugarfire best.

[kcfanXIII]

Little BBQ Joint in Independence is fucking amazing. Do yourself a favor and try it out. Some of the best burnt ends I've ever had, and they have 3 distinct, and delicious, sauces. The brisket is tender enough it falls apart in your fingers while you try to pick it up. They also serve "bacon chips" which are little squares of smoked bacon, smothered in a sweet BBQ sauce. I think I'd put them ahead of Joe's, and that is saying something coming from me...

[tooge]

Danny Edwards is pure shit. No BBs? No LC's? this list is shit.

[philfree]

4) City Butcher and Barbecue – Springfield

This Austin, Texas-inspired BBQ shop does much more than just Texas-style BBQ — City Butcher doubles as an artisan butcher shop. Get your beef brisket to go with some hand-made sausages to grill up on the weekend.


Never heard of it.

[Bump]

yelp isn't a site that you can trust for reviews, a lot of them are paid. Negative reviews get removed if the companies pays, there have even been reports of extortion. Smaller business owners have claimed that they received calls from yelp demanding money or get negative reviews added.

[nychief]

Yelp is a joke.

[O.city]

Never heard of it.

It's on south campbell across from reliable Chevy.

It's good but it's rather expensive imo and not great. I like Buckinghams and rib shack better

[gblowfish]

I can name 10 places in Metro KC Area (on the Missouri Side) that are as good or better than anything on that list but Joe's. Probably 10 more on the Kansas Side.

LC's BBQ
Big T's BBQ
Smokin' Guns BBQ
Wabash BBQ
Zarda BBQ
Bates City BBQ
Gates & Sons BBQ
Jack Stack BBQ
Filling Station BBQ
Summit Hickory Pit BBQ

[sedated]

Danny Edwards is pure shit.

Respectfully disagree. Have you had their brisket?

[gblowfish]

Danny Edwards has some good stuff. My biggest gripe on them is they're not open for dinner. Lunch only.

[DJ's left nut]

Hmm....

Shotgun Pete's is the 3rd best Barbecue joint in Columbia (CoMo Smoke and Fire and Lutz's are both better).

And I've never been impressed by Pappy's in St. Louis at all.

Seems an odd list.

[KCUnited]

I usually scan the menu of a place I'm considering, pick a couple things I'd be interested in, then do a word search for them on their Yelp page just to see if anyone has commented specifically on those dishes. I'll look at the photos too. Outside of that, Yelp is pretty useless.

[gblowfish]

Little BBQ Joint in Independence is fucking amazing. Do yourself a favor and try it out. Some of the best burnt ends I've ever had, and they have 3 distinct, and delicious, sauces. The brisket is tender enough it falls apart in your fingers while you try to pick it up. They also serve "bacon chips" which are little squares of smoked bacon, smothered in a sweet BBQ sauce. I think I'd put them ahead of Joe's, and that is saying something coming from me...

This place is only about a mile from my house. I've been in there a few times. It's not on my top ten list, but I must admit that their business seems to be growing quite well. It opened up in what used to be an old mechanics garage. The decor is old car stuff, which is kind of cool. They have lots of motorhead stuff on the walls. I've thought the food was average to less than average, but some people really like it. They have definitely increased their traffic over the last year as the place always looks reasonably attended most nights. However, if I'm going to pay $15 or $20 for BBQ, I'll just go to Bryant's or Jack Stack.

[SAUTO]

Respectfully disagree. Have you had their brisket?

Yeah I have no idea where that came from.

I like several items there

[philfree]

It's on south campbell across from reliable Chevy.

It's good but it's rather expensive imo and not great. I like Buckinghams and rib shack better

Had lot's of Buckingham's but I've never tried the Rib Shack and I drive by there multiple times a week. We go to Famous Dave's some and it's good but the bread pudding there is awesome. Never really cared to much for Whole Hog. I don't like their potato salad. Some of the best Q in town comes from my back yard and the wife's potato salad is great. It's about time to fire that smoker up!

When I was young there was a place at the corner of Sunshine and Scenic called Fletcher's Hickory Pit. That place was cool. It was in a big old barn and it had these post from floor to ceiling that were finished tree trunks. They were beautiful.

You never did invite me to play golf. I thought you were taking me to Highlandia Springs.

[kcfanXIII]

This place is only about a mile from my house. I've been in there a few times. It's not on my top ten list, but I must admit that their business seems to be growing quite well. It opened up in what used to be an old mechanics garage. The decor is old car stuff, which is kind of cool. They have lots of motorhead stuff on the walls. I've thought the food was average to less than average, but some people really like it. They have definitely increased their traffic over the last year as the place always looks reasonably attended most nights. However, if I'm going to pay $15 or $20 for BBQ, I'll just go to Bryant's or Jack Stack.

Wonderful thing about BBQ, we can disagree all we want, but neither of us are wrong.

[O.city]

Had lot's of Buckingham's but I've never tried the Rib Shack and I drive by there multiple times a week. We go to Famous Dave's some and it's good but the bread pudding there is awesome. Never really cared to much for Whole Hog. I don't like their potato salad. Some of the best Q in town comes from my back yard and the wife's potato salad is great. It's about time to fire that smoker up!

When I was young there was a place at the corner of Sunshine and Scenic called Fletcher's Hickory Pit. That place was cool. It was in a big old barn and it had these post from floor to ceiling that were finished tree trunks. They were beautiful.

You never did invite me to play golf. I thought you were taking me to Highlandia Springs.

Let me know when you wanna play and we'll get out there.

Whole hog is pretty good, nothing crazy, but ok. I like rib shack alot. They've got a sandwich with pulled pork or brisket stacked on hot links and a o ring.

It's good.

[DJ's left nut]

Had lot's of Buckingham's but I've never tried the Rib Shack and I drive by there multiple times a week. We go to Famous Dave's some and it's good but the bread pudding there is awesome. Never really cared to much for Whole Hog. I don't like their potato salad. Some of the best Q in town comes from my back yard and the wife's potato salad is great. It's about time to fire that smoker up!

When I was young there was a place at the corner of Sunshine and Scenic called Fletcher's Hickory Pit. That place was cool. It was in a big old barn and it had these post from floor to ceiling that were finished tree trunks. They were beautiful.

You never did invite me to play golf. I thought you were taking me to Highlandia Springs.

Broke mine out last weekend; 4 slabs for mothers day.

Figured out last year how to freeze them before finishing and re-heat them later. They're about 90% as good as the original article that way. So I sliced up a slab, halved the other 3 and that should cover me for a bit on ribs.

I really should go grab a big ol' brisket from Sams. I always end up with small briskets from my side of beef and those things just dry out too fast; not enough mass to get tender before they lose all their moisture. The only way to cook a brisket less than about 6 lbs is to cheat and sous vide it.

But those big 10+ lbers from Sams make for some damn fine eatin'.

[O.city]

We just had one butchered and split 3 ways with some friends a few weeks back. I got a few brisket I'm gonna try to smoke.

They cut my steaks a little to small but I had fattened her up so they marbled well.

Any tips on the brisket in the smoker dj? They're like, 7 pounds and I've got a cheating electric smoker. Last year they kept getting dry

[DJ's left nut]

We just had one butchered and split 3 ways with some friends a few weeks back. I got a few brisket I'm gonna try to smoke.

They cut my steaks a little to small but I had fattened her up so they marbled well.

Any tips on the brisket in the smoker dj? They're like, 7 pounds and I've got a cheating electric smoker. Last year they kept getting dry

Not a ton; sometimes the meat just doesn't cooperate. Brisket is such a fatty piece of meat and has so much connective tissue that you really do need to take it to at least 180 and preferably 190.

What you could try to do is something similar to a texas crutch for ribs; maybe pull it around 160-170, foil wrap it and drop it into a cooler for an hour or so. Most fats and collagens start to render in that general range so if you have it wrapped, the liquids will stay in the foil and you'll lose less moisture that way as the heat trapped in the meat will continue to raise your internal temperature to the target mark. To be on the safe side, you could put it in an oven at 250 or so, that way you know that it won't lose its heat before it hits the 190 you're shooting for.

The problem is that your bark will suck pretty badly. Maybe try to put it under a broiler for 10 minutes after you unwrap it to re-fire the sugars in the rub? You could also foil wrap and put it back in the smoker and then when you unwrap it, ramp up your temperature and accomplish the same thing.

I'm generally pretty opposed to wrapping a brisket but with the smaller ones, it seems like your best bet. Brisket is a product of the meat and little else, IMO. There's no tricks you can pull to make a bad brisket good; either it's a good cut when you started or you're boned.

[luv]

It's on south campbell across from reliable Chevy.

It's good but it's rather expensive imo and not great. I like Buckinghams and rib shack better

Must be a sauce guy? Although, Buckingham's is damn good. I still like City Butcher better. Definitely agree on the expensive part, though.

[O.city]

Must be a sauce guy? Although, Buckingham's is damn good. I still like City Butcher better. Definitely agree on the expensive part, though.

I liked it for sure. I've only been a few times, may have to try again but honestly, after living in kc for 4 years I'm hard to please

[O.city]

Not a ton; sometimes the meat just doesn't cooperate. Brisket is such a fatty piece of meat and has so much connective tissue that you really do need to take it to at least 180 and preferably 190.

What you could try to do is something similar to a texas crutch for ribs; maybe pull it around 160-170, foil wrap it and drop it into a cooler for an hour or so. Most fats and collagens start to render in that general range so if you have it wrapped, the liquids will stay in the foil and you'll lose less moisture that way as the heat trapped in the meat will continue to raise your internal temperature to the target mark. To be on the safe side, you could put it in an oven at 250 or so, that way you know that it won't lose its heat before it hits the 190 you're shooting for.

The problem is that your bark will suck pretty badly. Maybe try to put it under a broiler for 10 minutes after you unwrap it to re-fire the sugars in the rub? You could also foil wrap and put it back in the smoker and then when you unwrap it, ramp up your temperature and accomplish the same thing.

I'm generally pretty opposed to wrapping a brisket but with the smaller ones, it seems like your best bet. Brisket is a product of the meat and little else, IMO. There's no tricks you can pull to make a bad brisket good; either it's a good cut when you started or you're boned.

I've done the cooler trick, it worked out ok. Normally just let it keep going to get to temp.

Someone told me to do a complete rub with honey before putting my rub on to hold heat it. I may give it a shot.

[philfree]

I feel inspired. I'm not sure if I've ever bought meat at Sam's we usually go to Harder House. Should have the pool opened this weekend so that will be followed up by a backyard party and some smoked food. Ohh speaking of smoking have any of yous guys every had a Smoked Manhattan? That's a great cocktail.

[O.city]

I've gotten stuff at sams, it's actually pretty good.

Harter house is the shit though

[DJ's left nut]

I've done the cooler trick, it worked out ok. Normally just let it keep going to get to temp.

Someone told me to do a complete rub with honey before putting my rub on to hold heat it. I may give it a shot.

Logically that doesn't make sense to me.

Think about it; if the honey coating is enough to 'hold heat in', then it's essentially creating an impermeable layer, no? And if that were the case, how would smoke get to the meat?

Anything you put on there that would serve to keep heat from escaping would also serve to keep heat/smoke from entering, would it not? Seems like fairly straightforward thermodynamics would prevent that from working.

It's akin to people who believe that searing meat holds in the juices; nosir. In fact, there are some indications that the opposite is correct. Searing serves to do nothing more than accelerate the maillard effect and make it tastier; doesn't hold juices in.

[DJ's left nut]

I've gotten stuff at sams, it's actually pretty good.

Harter house is the shit though

Never heard of it. I've just been getting ribs and briskets from Sams since I was 16 and I've not been disappointed by one yet. I suspect it's not the greatest available, but their quality control seems strong enough that they're all quite good.

Which is a far cry from some of the stuff I've gotten from grocery stores like Price Chopper and even Hy Vee.

[O.city]

Logically that doesn't make sense to me.

Think about it; if the honey coating is enough to 'hold heat in', then it's essentially creating an impermeable layer, no? And if that were the case, how would smoke get to the meat?

Anything you put on there that would serve to keep heat from escaping would also serve to keep heat/smoke from entering, would it not? Seems like fairly straightforward thermodynamics would prevent that from working.

It's akin to people who believe that searing meat holds in the juices; nosir. In fact, there are some indications that the opposite is correct. Searing serves to do nothing more than accelerate the maillard effect and make it tastier; doesn't hold juices in.

I would imagine you'd have to cook it low temp and forever for it to work out. Don't really see how it would help, but I figure it can't hurt as a marinade.

I normally go with the late foil wrap in pork and such, seems to not work as well with beef in my hands atleast.

I dunno, I may just do the brisket in the oven and not fuck with it

[O.city]

Never heard of it. I've just been getting ribs and briskets from Sams since I was 16 and I've not been disappointed by one yet. I suspect it's not the greatest available, but their quality control seems strong enough that they're all quite good.

Which is a far cry from some of the stuff I've gotten from grocery stores like Price Chopper and even Hy Vee.

Harter house is a store line here in springfield, specializing in meats. They do a great job with it, have a certified butcher or some shit.

They've got their own dip for marinade that's nice. I usually have them dip my tri tips in it for fajitas. It's good.

But yeah, I have been pleasantly surprised with sams meat. My only issue is I have to buy so much of it at a time but now that the family has grown, it's not an issue

[lcarus]

Danny Edwards is pure shit. No BBs? No LC's? this list is shit.

Completely agree. LC's is always underrated. Yeah, it can be kinda shitty sometimes, but when it's good, it's my favorite. Fuck this list.

[luv]

Is Sam's meat different than what you'd get at Walmart? I hate Walmart meat (beef anyway), so I figured it was the same at Sam's.

[Dartgod]

Wonderful thing about BBQ, we can disagree all we want, but neither of us are wrong.

Blowfish is about Gates. :Lin:

[O.city]

Is Sam's meat different than what you'd get at Walmart? I hate Walmart meat (beef anyway), so I figured it was the same at Sam's.

No, it's alot different. Much better quality.

[Rasputin]

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[Dartgod]

If I had one, I'd post a picture of the nasty, fatty, disgusting brisket sandwich I got from Gates years ago. I'll never eat there again.

[Rasputin]

If I had one, I'd post a picture of the nasty, fatty, disgusting brisket sandwich I got from Gates years ago. I'll never eat there again.

That sux to hear that. I liked it when we went last October day before we beat the Steelers. I don't get to Kansas City that often to get to experience all the best BBQ it has to offer.

[gblowfish]

If I had one, I'd post a picture of the nasty, fatty, disgusting brisket sandwich I got from Gates years ago. I'll never eat there again.

I'll be the first to admit, Gates is inconsistent.

I've gotten cold food there on occasion. You just have to watch them.

If you order your brisket sandwich "lean as" they'll cut the fat out for you.

You can inspect the food before you pay for it. If you don't like the way it looks, send it back. People do that with the ribs all the time.

[SAUTO]

I would imagine you'd have to cook it low temp and forever for it to work out. Don't really see how it would help, but I figure it can't hurt as a marinade.

I normally go with the late foil wrap in pork and such, seems to not work as well with beef in my hands atleast.

I dunno, I may just do the brisket in the oven and not fuck with it I've done brisket in the oven before, but wrap the shit out of it with plastic wrap and then foil. Tender and juicy as Hell

[sedated]

If I had one, I'd post a picture of the nasty, fatty, disgusting brisket sandwich I got from Gates years ago. I'll never eat there again.

I got a burnt end sandwich once from Gates and that was the most disgusting thing I've ever tried. It was like they scooped up the gunk, ash, and fat from the bottom of the smoker and slapped it on a bun. It was so overwhelmingly fatty and smoke-flavored that I had to take a bite, put it down for a while, and try another bite after some fries and soda.

[philfree]

Bubba's BBQ I use a particular ATM frequently to get my cash. It's not at the bank it's just an ATM. I went to get some cash about a month ago and the parking lot was so jammed I couldn't really get to it. The newly opened Bubba's was packed. I need to go I guess but the W. Bypass just isn't that appetizing. It's right across from the Cedar's where I never eat.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

It's on south campbell across from reliable Chevy.

It's good but it's rather expensive imo and not great. I like Buckinghams and rib shack better

Rib Shack is so awesome and underrated. Their ribs, sides, and sausage are all great. My only complaint is that their pulled pork isn't very good for some reason.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Bubba's BBQ I use a particular ATM frequently to get my cash. It's not at the bank it's just an ATM. I went to get some cash about a month ago and the parking lot was so jammed I couldn't really get to it. The newly opened Bubba's was packed. I need to go I guess but the W. Bypass just isn't that appetizing. It's right across from the Cedar's where I never eat.

I tried Bubba's a couple weeks ago and it was pretty average. Lots of better places in Springfield.

[kcfanXIII]

I got a burnt end sandwich once from Gates and that was the most disgusting thing I've ever tried. It was like they scooped up the gunk, ash, and fat from the bottom of the smoker and slapped it on a bun. It was so overwhelmingly fatty and smoke-flavored that I had to take a bite, put it down for a while, and try another bite after some fries and soda.

I started having this experience more often than not, so I quit going to gates. Sucks cause I love their sauce, but I'm there to eat meat, and their meat is crap.

[jjchieffan]

Wow! I've never had a bad experience with Gates burnt ends. I don't get them that often since I live South of Springfield. But whenever I get to KC, I always try to get a burnt ends sandwich at Gates. Best burnt ends ever IMHO.

[O.city]

Rib Shack is so awesome and underrated. Their ribs, sides, and sausage are all great. My only complaint is that their pulled pork isn't very good for some reason.

I worked over on east chestnut in college and used to have rib shack, like 2 times per week. It's awesome. Kinda poor location so alot of people don't know about it.

I've never tried the pulled pork but the wife seems to like it. She smothers everything with sauce so she could eat a bbq d shoe and not care though

[Dayze]

Gates blows ass. Got such shitty food for a few years we stopped going altogether. Then, seven years later we got a wild hair up our ass on the way home from the royals game to stop in.

Seven years later....sucked ass. Have friends from new York and Florida who have come in and are gung ho on gates because they always hear about it or read about it, I tell them do t even waste your time or money.

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[kcfanXIII]

Gates blows ass. Got such shitty food for a few years we stopped going altogether. Then, seven years later we got a wild hair up our ass on the way home from the royals game to stop in.

Seven years later....sucked ass. Have friends from new York and Florida who have come in and are gung ho on gates because they always hear about it or read about it, I tell them do t even waste your time or money.

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Have them buy some of the sauce, and use it at home. I still think the sauce is excellent...

[gblowfish]

I got a burnt end sandwich once from Gates and that was the most disgusting thing I've ever tried. It was like they scooped up the gunk, ash, and fat from the bottom of the smoker and slapped it on a bun. It was so overwhelmingly fatty and smoke-flavored that I had to take a bite, put it down for a while, and try another bite after some fries and soda.

Gates burnt end sandwich is very greasy and bad. Best burnt ends in KC are at Smokin' Guns in NKC.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I worked over on east chestnut in college and used to have rib shack, like 2 times per week. It's awesome. Kinda poor location so alot of people don't know about it.

I've never tried the pulled pork but the wife seems to like it. She smothers everything with sauce so she could eat a bbq d shoe and not care though

Yeah, their sauce is great too, so it covers up the averageness of the pork.

They have a location on the southwest side of town too. Better location but they're still not doing very well, unfortunately. They are extremely friendly people with great food.

[Hammock Parties]

Look at this embarrassment to KC BBQ

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/odens-family-b-b-q-belton?select=g26U-ZP1Ymb5xT5_8hRhRw

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[Pablo]

I really thought those were potatoes covered in bbq sauce at first.

Disgusting.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The hell is an Oden?

[Baby Lee]

Look at this embarrassment to KC BBQ

That's not KC, it's barely even Belton. That's a godforsaken barren strip across from a trailer court in the middle of nowhere . . . on the edge of a town . . . in the middle of nowhere.

Not even sure if that's technically even in the town. I think the government still owns that land as the edge of the AFB to the north.

Now some of that area may see development in coming years as Honeywell makes its presence known, and particularly if they turn the abandoned golf course across the highway into a condo community as they're planning. But that place may go through 3 or 4 more restaurants in that time.

Plus, Oden's has been out of business for the better part of the past year. Looks like they re-opened in the past month or so. But they've always sucked.

[Rain Man]

I've generally found Yelp to be very unreliable. Weren't there rumors or reports that they would delete negative reviews to companies that paid them or some such thing?

And to back up dartgod, I've eaten at Gates BBQ twice in my life and was markedly unimpressed both times.

[Pablo]

I've generally found Yelp to be very unreliable. Weren't there rumors or reports that they would delete negative reviews to companies that paid them or some such thing?

And to back up dartgod, I've eaten at Gates BBQ twice in my life and was markedly unimpressed both times.There was this.

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[In58men]

I didn't care for the burnt ends at Arthur Bryant's being smothered with BBQ sauce. I wonder if they can just do sauce on the side.

[suzzer99]

I've generally found Yelp to be very unreliable. Weren't there rumors or reports that they would delete negative reviews to companies that paid them or some such thing?

And to back up dartgod, I've eaten at Gates BBQ twice in my life and was markedly unimpressed both times.

Yeah Yelp and Trip Advisor both are super gamed now. Take anything with a grain of salt.

[Rain Man]

Yeah Yelp and Trip Advisor both are super gamed now. Take anything with a grain of salt.

I look at the hotels.com reviews a fair bit for hotels, and it took me a while to figure out the pattern. A really nice hotel will get downgraded a bit because people have high expectations. Meanwhile, a low-end hotel will tend to get inflated scores because people have low expectations. So the reviews are useful, but you have to look at them in conjunction with the pictures and brand of the hotel, because sometimes the nicer hotel will have lower ratings than the less-nice hotel.

[Nickhead]

I really like slaps meats. And their potato casserole thing is fucking awesome but it's in ks also

next time you are there tell the owner a dude in australia wants his recipe :D

[Mr. Flopnuts]

next time you are there tell the owner a dude in australia wants his recipe :D

Sydney side where everyone lives, or WA out in the bush?

[|Zach|]

Some have an aversion to it because it is a sit down place and in Westport but Char Bar does some really tasty work. It isn't far from where I live and I kept resisting giving it credit but it kept being consistently really damn good.

[Nickhead]

Sydney side where everyone lives, or WA out in the bush?

west of sydney in the blue mountains:D

[Simply Red]

You just can't have a list w/o Gates.

[Infidel Goat]

If using Yelp reviews, there also needs to be more math added to the equation.

538.com did a "Burrito" competition trying to find the place to make the best burrito. They did rely upon Yelp to some degree, but they also checked to see how each local community rated placed like Chipotle. Burrito starved communities rated Chipotle higher than places that had good burritos available. They then used a formula that normed the scores across regions to better compare the Yelp score of a Burrito place in LA with a Burrito place in Columbus, Ohio. I respectfully submit that Kansas City is the king of BBQ and Yelp reviews hurt our scores while helping other areas (and yes, I'm looking at you, St. Louis).

[Pasta Little Brioni]

There is some really good Q in the Lou though. Mot sure why that causes butthurt for some. Nothing like Joes, but what else is??

[mnchiefsguy]

There is some really good Q in the Lou though. Mot sure why that causes butthurt for some. Nothing like Joes, but what else is??

St. Louis might have some good Q, but there is no fucking way they have the best six places in the state.

No butthurt, just a fact.

[gblowfish]

Smokin' Guns in NKC has some of the best burnt ends in KC. Not on the list.

[Rausch]

YELP - The BLM of food critics...

[duncan_idaho]

There is some really good Q in the Lou though. Mot sure why that causes butthurt for some. Nothing like Joes, but what else is??



And just think... There are like four-five places in KC better than OK Joes.


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[Baby Lee]

Chance to check Pappy's out [at least visually]

Tomorrow on Steve Harvey

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Also, a short news clip on the up and comers in St. Louis.

Pappy's, Bogarts and Sugarfire are legit.

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[raybec 4]

I really like slaps meats. And their potato casserole thing is ****ing awesome but it's in ks also

I work in Fairfax, so Slaps is just a quick trip, I love that place.

[Chief_For_Life58]

damn those stl places must be delicious. I need to try em. born and raised in kc

[gblowfish]

LC's, Arthur Bryant's, Gates not on the list for Missouri.
Fail.
Fail.
and
Fail.

[kcchiefsus]

Fuck St. Louis

[Baby Lee]

Fuck St. Louis

Yeah, like anyone gives a shit about Korean 'BBQ'

[SAUTO]

I work in Fairfax, so Slaps is just a quick trip, I love that place.

Very underrated IMO

[TrebMaxx]

Elbow Inn & BBQ Pit – Saint Robert. Great place and a great ride for bikes. Too bad they were recently flooded out a few weeks ago. I hope they can come back.

[Bob Dole]

St. Louis BBQ sucks. WTF Yelp?

[Dylan]

Last weekend NASCAR chose L C's Bar-B-Q of Kansas City as one of the best BBQ joints in town.

They said, "Kansas City region has more than 100 BBQ restaurants." LC Richardson says that they go through 10,000 lbs of meat in a week.

It sure looks good. :D

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http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/franchises/nascarnivore.html

[TribalElder]

New gates on 40 hwy is on point

[burt]

Q39, Smoking Guns and Hog Jaw are all getting great reviews.....the young guns of KC bar b que....

[Chief Pagan]

Yeah, like anyone gives a shit about Korean 'BBQ'

When I visit KC I eat a lot of BBQ because it is hard to find KC style BBQ near where I live.

But I can report that San Francisco has some excellent Asian BBQ, especially beef short ribs.

[tooge]

As noted in the article, many of the reviewers listed the service, hospitality, etc as why they gave good marks. If you are talking straight up best food, then some of those places aren't on there.

[Chief Pagan]

So actually, while this thread is current, what are suggestions for best ribs not too far from Overland Park I-35 / 435, say half hour or so.

I'm familiar with Jacks Stack (good ) and Zarda (like their sauce and brisket but ribs were meh).

[burt]

So actually, while this thread is current, what are suggestions for best ribs not too far from Overland Park I-35 / 435, say half hour or so.

I'm familiar with Jacks Stack (good ) and Zarda (like their sauce and brisket but ribs were meh).

Q39 is allegedly going in where Hawards was on Antioch just south of 435...I haven't checke yet...

[tooge]

Q39 has good ribs but you will spend more. Woodyard in Merriam is within 30 minutes of OP and it's very good and not too expensive.

[gblowfish]

Q39 has good ribs but you will spend more. Woodyard in Merriam is within 30 minutes of OP and it's very good and not too expensive.

Woodyard has the best smoked chicken in the city. Not even close.

[Hammock Parties]

Anyone had the smoked fried chicken at Q 39 yet ?