The greatest moment in baseball since the 2015 World Series

[Eleazar]

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[Munson]

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

[notorious]

Perfection.

[Eleazar]

WATCH: Rougned Odor punches Jose Bautista in the face after Blue Jays outfielder retaliates to being hit by pitch

By SportsDayDFW.com



It finally happened.

Many were wondering if the Rangers would hit Jose Bautista in any of the series this year following his epic bat-flip in the postseason last year. In the seventh game of the series this season, the hard-throwing Matt Bush nailed Bautista in the arm.

Shortly after, Bautista slid hard into second base and mayhem ensued.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A brawl occurred between the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rangers?src=hash">#Rangers</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BlueJays?src=hash">#BlueJays</a>, as Odor got the best of Bautista: <a href="https://t.co/Ffb9iij2CF">pic.twitter.com/Ffb9iij2CF</a></p>&mdash; Max Wildstein (@MaxWildstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaxWildstein/status/731977629004271617">May 15, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[suzzer99]

Bautista bobblehead day at Rangers stadium.

[DrRyan]

Bautista wanted no more after taking it in the jaw. He put up pretty much no fight to Beltre holding him back when the benches cleared.

[lewdog]

Get the video in the OP!

He got clocked hard!

[lewdog]

KC connection will be along to tell us how Bautista won that fight.

Fucking Canadians.

[DaFace]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well we knew Toronto was taking some type of L today <a href="https://t.co/WtsmMxuXjL">https://t.co/WtsmMxuXjL</a></p>&mdash; #DepressedHeatFan (@NicoSZN) <a href="https://twitter.com/NicoSZN/status/731978353117298689">May 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[notorious]

In the video he fucking rocked Jose. ROFL

[notorious]

The thread title is amazing, BTW.

[lewdog]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well we knew Toronto was taking some type of L today <a href="https://t.co/WtsmMxuXjL">https://t.co/WtsmMxuXjL</a></p>&mdash; #DepressedHeatFan (@NicoSZN) <a href="https://twitter.com/NicoSZN/status/731978353117298689">May 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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That hit!!!!!

[L.A. Chieffan]

They're both pieces of shit. Odor purposely spiked Angels Giavotella last year brutally. No right to bitch

[KC_Connection]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WATCH: Bautista on Odor: &quot;It takes a little bit of a bigger man, I guess, to knock me down&quot; <a href="https://t.co/LCnHaoHnPp">https://t.co/LCnHaoHnPp</a> <a href="https://t.co/TuegGYsiCC">pic.twitter.com/TuegGYsiCC</a></p>&mdash; Sportsnet (@Sportsnet) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/731998680920825864">May 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Mama Hip Rockets]

Looooooong time comin', Bautista. Douche is lucky this didn't happen sooner and doesn't happen more often.

[Pushead2]

#MakeBaseballFunAgain

[KC_Connection]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On MLB Network, Eric Byrnes notes that Odor might have tried to throw this ball right in Bautista&#39;s face (slo-mo) <a href="https://t.co/z5Fz2wmSpq">pic.twitter.com/z5Fz2wmSpq</a></p>&mdash; Kenny Ducey (@KennyDucey) <a href="https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/731989261193498624">May 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Looks like Odor actually tossed the ball at him too before the punch. I love that the playoff HR was still in these guy's heads all these months later. LMAO

[jspchief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WATCH: Bautista on Odor: &quot;It takes a little bit of a bigger man, I guess, to knock me down&quot; <a href="https://t.co/LCnHaoHnPp">https://t.co/LCnHaoHnPp</a> <a href="https://t.co/TuegGYsiCC">pic.twitter.com/TuegGYsiCC</a></p>— Sportsnet (@Sportsnet) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/731998680920825864">May 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Lol. That fight was over. He should be thanking Beltre for saving his life.

[KCUnited]

Saved by the Beltre.

[KC_Connection]

Lol. That fight was over. He should be thanking Beltre for saving his life.
May have saved him from a longer suspension too, so I thank Beltre for not letting Bautista get further involved in this Ranger nonsense. Considering the Jays are struggling as bad as the Royals this year, they need their good players on the field as much as possible if they're going to get back in the playoff race.

[Nightfyre]

But I thought the Royals were the bad boys of the MLB.

[Eleazar]

KC connection will be along to tell us how Bautista won that fight.

ROFL

[jspchief]

But I thought the Royals were the bad boys of the MLB.
Really? Based on what?

[suzzer99]

May have saved him from a longer suspension too, so I thank Beltre for not letting Bautista get further involved in this Ranger nonsense. Considering the Jays are struggling as bad as the Royals this year, they need their good players on the field as much as possible if they're going to get back in the playoff race.

Did their roid dealer get busted or something?

[Nightfyre]

I like how Joey Bats pulled back to punch Odor and then wants to play the victim after he gets crushed.

[Buehler445]

Bautista wanted no more after taking it in the jaw. He put up pretty much no fight to Beltre holding him back when the benches cleared.

LOL

He threw the first punch too. ROFL

[suzzer99]

Really? Based on what?

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/royals-noah-syndergaard-pay-back-revenge-report-032916

[lewdog]

The Canadian White Knight is here!!!

[KC_Connection]

Did their roid dealer get busted or something?
Such a taunt would work a whole lot better if the Royals weren't the team with a proven PED user on their roster right now.

[Eleazar]

Social media is funny. Everyone cheers. Bautista is reviled by everyone.

[ping2000]

He should be punched in the face daily. What a dick.

[Red Dawg]

Freaking brilliant. He got clocked and he deserved it for that slide.

[Chiefshrink]

Looooooong time comin', Bautista. Douche is lucky this didn't happen sooner and doesn't happen more often.

:thumb: What comes around goes around.

Look at Bautista's eyes when he gets clocked, you can tell he was temporarily in a haze fog after that hit. Odor has boxed in his day you can tell.

[Don Corlemahomes]

Such a taunt would work a whole lot better if the Royals weren't the team with a proven PED user on their roster right now.

Chris colabello

[KC_Connection]

Freaking brilliant. He got clocked and he deserved it for that slide.
Odor knows about playing the game the right way, I'm sure.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rougned Odor really should be suspended for this trash slide (via <a href="https://twitter.com/Bk2012bk">@Bk2012bk</a>): <a href="http://t.co/opjLgUYQ6J">http://t.co/opjLgUYQ6J</a> <a href="http://t.co/xwzJOfUMig">pic.twitter.com/xwzJOfUMig</a></p>&mdash; OHB (@ohholybutt) <a href="https://twitter.com/ohholybutt/status/650706507668041728">October 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[KC_Connection]

Chris colabello
Edinson Volquez.

[Nightfyre]

KC Connection should be a spin-artist for a political campaign. Nobody has said Odor is a hero. Everyone is just saying JB got his due.

[SAUTO]

:thumb: What comes around goes around.

Look at Bautista's eyes when he gets clocked, you can tell he was temporarily in a haze fog after that hit. Odor has boxed in his day you can tell.

No boxer would throw their follow up left like that...

[DaneMcCloud]

No boxer would throw their follow up left like that...

LOL, exactly.

I thought "Man, this guy has no idea how to throw a punch".

[Don Corlemahomes]

Edinson Volquez.

Your 2015 success was fueled by a guy who was just suspended 80 games for an oral steroid. Volquez was suspended 6 years ago and served his time. That is absolutely not the same.

[Chiefshrink]

No boxer would throw their follow up left like that...

True but that first right was dead on like he has fought a lot.

[SAUTO]

True but that first right was dead on like he has fought a lot.

It was a free shot. Anyone can throw a good looking free shot

[KC_Connection]

Your 2015 success was fueled by a guy who was just suspended 80 games for an oral steroid. Volquez was suspended 6 years ago and served his time. That is absolutely not the same.
You're right, I'm sure there's nothing suspicious about a proven PED user having his best years as he enters his mid 30s.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Connection is the Canadian knowmo

[KC_Connection]

Connection is the Canadian knowmo
From that MU version of Prison Bitch, that's a compliment.

[SAUTO]

If fact the first was a little more over hand than it should have been. He might have dropped him if he had kept his shoulder behind it...

[Spott]

Glad that douche got his. Beating that team of asswipes last year was just as satisfying, if not more, than beating the Mets.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Somewhere bricks shadow boxes a card board Odor cutout in his underoos

[Eleazar]

KC Connection should be a spin-artist for a political campaign. Nobody has said Odor is a hero. Everyone is just saying JB got his due.

if Bautista were punched by Jerry Sandusky I would still laugh.

[SAUTO]

Somewhere bricks shadow boxes a card board Odor cutout in his underoos

Be careful, he's innocent and will defend his honor.

[KC_Connection]

Everyone is just saying JB got his due.
His due for what exactly? Hitting a lot of HRs over his career?

[Don Corlemahomes]

You're right, I'm sure there's nothing suspicious about a proven PED user having his best years as he enters his mid 30s.

Thanks to Dave Eiland, who has been phenomenal with aging pitchers since he got here.

But if you want to play that game, we can. Jose Bautista's career really took off once he hit his 30s. Sure, he hasn't been suspended, but it's mighty suspicious when you jump from 13 HRs to 54 in one year, and when you have sustained power into your mid 30s for no apparent reason.

[KC_Connection]

Thanks to Dave Eiland, who has been phenomenal with aging pitchers since he got here.

But if you want to play that game, we can. Jose Bautista's career really took off once he hit his 30s. Sure, he hasn't been suspended, but it's mighty suspicious when you jump from 13 HRs to 54 in one year, and have sustained power into your mid 30s for no apparent reason.
Bautista's been in a steady decline offensively since 2011 when he turned 30. If he's on steroids, he definitely should get on the ones that Volquez is presumably on instead. Would lengthen his career like Ortiz's.

[Eleazar]

His due for what exactly? Hitting a lot of HRs over his career?

For being one of the biggest douchebags in professional sports

[Nightfyre]

KC Connection wants to smear the Royals as a bunch of PED users when the list of people who blow up in size and power in Toronto grows each year.

Donaldson, Encarnacion, Bautista, Colabello, Martin, Smoak

I wonder if Tulo will start popping all of a sudden. Oh wait, he's on pace for 40+ HRs?
He couldn't even approach that at Coors!

[KC_Connection]

For being one of the biggest douchebags in professional sports
Says the guy who roots for a team with Yordano Ventura and Kelvin Herrera as central pieces. LMAO

[KCUnited]

Agreed, I don't think a guy roiding folds that easily. Could be estrogen though.

[Don Corlemahomes]

Bautista's been in a steady decline offensively since 2011 when he turned 30. If he's on steroids, he definitely should get on the ones that Volquez is presumably on instead. Would lengthen his career like Ortiz's.

Er, no. His first good year was in 2010, and his best was in 2011. But his last two seasons (2014 and 2015) have been his 3rd and 4th best years at the plate. He hit his 3rd highest HR total (40) last year. How is that a steady decline?

[Eleazar]

Thanks to Dave Eiland, who has been phenomenal with aging pitchers since he got here.

But if you want to play that game, we can. Jose Bautista's career really took off once he hit his 30s. Sure, he hasn't been suspended, but it's mighty suspicious when you jump from 13 HRs to 54 in one year, and when you have sustained power into your mid 30s for no apparent reason.

His career numbers have a prime steroid use profile. A journeyman who was never an everyday player all of a sudden becomes an OPS monster at age 30.

[KC_Connection]

KC Connection wants to smear the Royals as a bunch of PED users when the list of people who blow up in size and power in Toronto grows each year.

Donaldson, Encarnacion, Bautista, Colabello, Martin, Smoak

I wonder if Tulo will start popping all of a sudden. Oh wait, he's on pace for 40+ HRs?
I wish they all were. Other than Smoak, all of those guys aren't hitting at all this year by their standards (and some like Tulo and Martin are absolutely abysmal).

[Bewbies]

This is good, but the HR by the old fatass Bartolo Colon is the best moment in baseball this year.

[KC_Connection]

Er, no. His first good year was in 2010, and his best was in 2011. But his last two seasons (2014 and 2015) have been his 3rd and 4th best years at the plate. He hit his 3rd highest HR total (40) last year. How is that a steady decline?
Yes, in 2010, he was 29 and in 2011 he was 30. And in the years since as he entered his 30s, his numbers have dropped off and he's been nowhere near that good.

[C3HIEF3S]

You're right, I'm sure there's nothing suspicious about a proven PED user having his best years as he enters his mid 30s.

Sounds like every Blue Jays hitter.

[KC_Connection]

Sounds like every Blue Jays hitter.
Somebody tell Tulo.

[C3HIEF3S]

Somebody tell Tulo.

Many players would match his numbers if they got to play in Coors Launching Pad their entire careers, too.

[tk13]

This is good, but the HR by the old fatass Bartolo Colon is the best moment in baseball this year.

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[Don Corlemahomes]

Yes, in 2010, he was 29 and in 2011 he was 30. And in the years since as he entered his 30s, his numbers have dropped off and he's been nowhere near that good.

All you are telling me is you don't know what a steady decline means.

Let's move on to the power surge. In his first 6 years, he hit 74 home runs total. 6 years at about 12 per year! Then he busted out 54 in one year.

[C3HIEF3S]

All you are telling me is you don't know what a steady decline means.

Let's move on to the power surge. In his first 6 years, he hit 74 home runs total. 6 years at about 12 per year! Then he busted out 54 in one year.

Go look up Encarnacion's numbers just to add to this fun ROFL

[srvy]

Odor is now on my list of favorite players

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[tk13]

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">YOU&#39;RE INVITED:<br><br>When: Friday, July 22nd<br>Where: Kauffman Stadium<br><br>Standing ovation for Rougned Odor</p>&mdash; Conrad McGorkin (@ConradMcGorkin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ConradMcGorkin/status/732019296935649280">May 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Jewish Rabbi]

Complete bitch move by the Rangers to wait until the last possible moment for retaliation.

[KC_Connection]

All you are telling me is you don't know what a steady decline means.

I know that he hasn't been anywhere near the same hitter since 2011 when he was 30, that he's clearly past his prime as a player, and that his numbers support that.

[KC_Connection]

Complete bitch move by the Rangers to wait until the last possible moment for retaliation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gibbons: &quot;To me, it was gutless. We&#39;ve played 7 games...the other 29 teams...if they have an issue with you, they come at you right away.&quot;</p>&mdash; Shi Davidi (@ShiDavidi) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShiDavidi/status/732002247471566848">May 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Say what you will about the Royals and their penchant for conflict, but at least they wouldn't have waited 7 games to hit him.

[KC_Connection]

Go look up Encarnacion's numbers just to add to this fun ROFL
Edwin at least works better if you're going to throw PED accusations out as he hasn't declined at all like Bautista since he entered his 30s (although he is also younger).

[jspchief]

If fact the first was a little more over hand than it should have been. He might have dropped him if he had kept his shoulder behind it...
Lol at the mechanic critiquing the baseball player's boxing form.

[Don Corlemahomes]

I know that he hasn't been anywhere near the same hitter since 2011 when he was 30, that he's clearly past his prime as a player, and that his numbers support that.

OPS by age

23-28: pre-juice garbage, not even worth talking about
29: 2nd
30: 1st
31: 5th
32: 6th
33: 3rd
34: 4th

That is not a steady decline. He has been opsing 900+ the last two years.

What's your excuse for the second part of my post that you conveniently forgot to comment on?

[Prison Bitch]

Say what you will about the Royals and their penchant for winning the Pennant

Fixed

[big nasty kcnut]

Smart by odor to get that shot in no retaliation game for the blue jays to get a shot back.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Odor seems like a decent dude.

[KC_Connection]

That is not a steady decline. He has been opsing 900+ the last two years.

.995 OPS (29), 1.056 (30), .886 (31), .856 (32), .928 (33), .914 (34), .790 (35).

You're right...no decline from his age 29-30 years at all. LMAO


What's your excuse for the second part of my post that you conveniently forgot to comment on?
Because it's been rehashed over and over again here whenever somebody feels like throwing an accusation out about Bautista. Me pointing out the obvious swing changes he made in late 2009 will not change your mind about him either.

[lewdog]

His due for what exactly? Hitting a lot of HRs over his career?

Constant show boating (I'm fine with it, many aren't) and constantly running his mouth during games and to the media about everything.

He's fucking annoying and his comments after getting rocked today prove that. Run your mouth enough, and someone's gonna pop you in it.

[KevB]

Smart by odor to get that shot in no retaliation game for the blue jays to get a shot back.

They were squared up, Joey had his chance

[SAUTO]

Lol at the mechanic critiquing the baseball player's boxing form.

This mechanic has thrown plenty of punches with gloves on

[KC_Connection]

Constant show boating (I'm fine with it, many aren't) and constantly running his mouth during games and to the media about everything.

He's ****ing annoying and his comments after getting rocked today prove that. Run your mouth enough, and someone's gonna pop you in it.
This reminds me of the Papelbon/Harper debate after their fight in the dugout last year. Regrettably, you've taken the Palpebon side.

[Willie Lanier]

Yes, in 2010, he was 29 and in 2011 he was 30. And in the years since as he entered his 30s, his numbers have dropped off and he's been nowhere near that good.

Dude, walk away, there's no win in this for you...

Joey Bats is a douche, you don't like the Royals, end of argument

[jspchief]

Odor seems like a decent dude.
He's not. But at least he expressed his inner douche on a bigger douche this time.

[SAUTO]

He's not. But at least he expressed his inner douche on a bigger douche this time.

ROFL, well put

[Don Corlemahomes]

.995 OPS (29), 1.056 (30), .886 (31), .856 (32), .928 (33), .914 (34), .790 (35).

You're right...no decline from his age 29-30 years at all. LMAO


Because it's been rehashed over and over again here whenever somebody feels like throwing an accusation out about Bautista. Me pointing out the obvious swing changes he made in late 2009 will not change your mind about him either.

A steady decline would be 1.000 a couple years, then .900, then .800. But having two of his top four seasons in 2014 and 2015 isn't a steady decline. He's still exceeding expectations, as evidenced by his last two seasons at age 33 and 34.

And yes, I've heard about the swing changes. But his power numbers cannot be accounted for by swing alone. Again, 12hr/year to 54 in a single season is absurd. Swing adjustments can't account for a 450% increase in power. That's a Bonds-esque trajectory.

[jspchief]

This mechanic has thrown plenty of punches with gloves on
Good for you. Doesn't diminish the comedy of a punch that would have left 95% of this forum fetal being criticized by the Cus D'Amato of the Ozarks. 8 inch dong. 4.40 forty.

[KC_Connection]

A steady decline would be 1.000 a couple years, then 9, then 8. But having two of his top four seasons in 2014 and 2015 isn't a steady decline. He's still exceeding expectations, as evidenced by his last two seasons at age 33 and 34.

It's not an entirely linear decline (these things rarely are), but he's dropped off considerably from the hitter he was when he was 29/30. The difference has been obvious as he's entered further into his mid-30s.



And yes, I've heard about the swing changes. But his power numbers cannot be accounted for by swing alone. Again, 12hr/year to 54 in a single season is absurd. That's not just swing adjustments.
Yeah, it's almost like in addition to completely changing his swing and approach, he also went from a part-time player to a full-time player and changed ballparks/leagues as well.

[teedubya]

Dude, walk away, there's no win in this for you...

Joey Bats is a douche, you don't like the Royals, end of argument

And you know if the Blue Jays had beaten the Royals, he'd have been a douche about it.

So this is great. Fuck Baby Bitch Bautista.

[Don Corlemahomes]

It's not an entirely linear decline (these things rarely are), but he's dropped off considerably from the hitter he was when he was 29/30. The difference has been obvious as he's entered further into his mid-30s.



Yeah, it's almost like in addition to completely changing his swing and approach, he also went from a part-time player to a full-time player and changed ballparks/leagues as well.

450% due to ballpark and swing. Unbelievable.

[kstater]

LMAO

YOU'RE INVITED:When: Friday, July 22ndWhere: Kauffman StadiumStanding ovation for Rougned Odor— Conrad McGorkin (@ConradMcGorkin) May 16, 2016

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[Mama Hip Rockets]

Somewhere bricks shadow boxes a card board Odor cutout in his underoos

ROFL

[KC_Connection]

450% due to ballpark and swing. Unbelievable.
See how pointless that was?

[Don Corlemahomes]

See how pointless that was?

You absolutely won't budge. The only person I can think of with a similar trajectory (mid-teens hr/year to 50 in one year) is Brady Anderson.

[KC_Connection]

You absolutely won't budge.

Not at all. I'm totally open to the idea that Bautista was on steroids and is on steroids. In fact, I'd love him to be (as it would allow him to beat his normal aging curve like guys such as Ortiz and Volquez). The fact that somebody actually believes that there's some kind of magical drug out there that turns hitters from mediocre to elite is too ridiculous for words, though. If there was such a thing in existence, we'd probably be seeing transitions like that more than just one or two times in baseball history, no?

[L.A. Chieffan]

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/650411563229310980

[suzzer99]

Such a taunt would work a whole lot better if the Royals weren't the team with a proven PED user on their roster right now.

Yeah a scrawny runt. What did Donaldson and Bautista do - both like tripled their WAR every year since joining the BJs? And you've got guys like Encarnacion and Colabello going bananas. Reminds me of the Bash Brothers As. Even like Terry Steinbeck looked huge and was jacking homers all over the place.

You really think Donaldson and Bautista aren't juicing? Odds seem low.

[KC_Connection]

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/650411563229310980
Yeah, posted that already. Odor is an actual dirty player and more worthy of scorn than Bautista has ever been.

[suzzer99]

Glad that douche got his. Beating that team of asswipes last year was just as satisfying, if not more, than beating the Mets.

Yeah that was the real World Series.

[Don Corlemahomes]

Not at all. I'm totally open to the idea that Bautista was on steroids and is on steroids. In fact, I'd love him to be (as it would extend his career past the normal aging curve like guys such as Ortiz and Volquez). The fact that somebody actually believes that there's some kind of magical drug out there that turns hitters from mediocre to elite is too ridiculous for words, though. If there was such a thing in existence, we'd probably be seeing transitions like that more than just one or two times in baseball history, no?

The same logic can be applied to a swing/approach change, though. Cito Gaston has a great reputation, and I'm sure his coaching played a huge part in Bautista's success. But he cannot miraculously change someone's swing to make them hit 50+ HRs.

[suzzer99]

Says the guy who roots for a team with Yordano Ventura and Kelvin Herrera as central pieces. LMAO

There's a difference between feisty Latino and complete douche. If you can't tell the difference you may be in the latter.

[suzzer99]

Agreed, I don't think a guy roiding folds that easily. Could be estrogen though.

He can't roid during the season. He's got the testosterone of a 10-year-old girl right now.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Fixed

BOOM!

[lewdog]

I am not sure KC Connection actually believes all the rhetoric he posts or if he just finds his stance and argues it until the other person gets tired.



From this day forward I'll call him, Canadian Clay.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Constant show boating (I'm fine with it, many aren't) and constantly running his mouth during games and to the media about everything.

He's fucking annoying and his comments after getting rocked today prove that. Run your mouth enough, and someone's gonna pop you in it.

I don't know why Blue Jays fans can't see this. Fans of all 29 other teams realize what a douchebag he is. He even threw his own teammate under the bus in the ALCS last year for something that was his fault.

[KC_Connection]

Yeah a scrawny runt.

Smaller guys than Volquez have taken PEDs and will take them again.


You really think Donaldson and Bautista aren't juicing? Odds seem low.
Not that I give much of a shit, but if If I had to guess, I'd say there are plenty of players on both the Jays and Royals using PEDs. There is only one guy on the two teams right now that has actually been proven to be a user and he was a key piece of the Royals WS run. Please stop pretending like you have the moral high ground on this one.

[ghak99]

An epic collision of douche.

If I'm at the K, Odor will get my standing o.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I am not sure KC Connection actually believes all the rhetoric he posts or if he just finds his stance and argues it until the other person gets tired.



From this day forward I'll call him, Canadian Clay.

ROFL

[KC_Connection]

I don't know why Blue Jays fans can't see this. Fans of all 29 other teams realize what a douchebag he is.
Yordano Ventura. Kelvin Herrera. Royals baseball.

He even threw his own teammate under the bus in the ALCS last year for something that was his fault.
I wish Goins didn't call him off that ball, but unfortunately he did.

[KC_Connection]

I am not sure KC Connection actually believes all the rhetoric he posts or if he just finds his stance and argues it until the other person gets tired.



From this day forward I'll call him, Canadian Clay.
You really have a thing about Canadians, don't you?

[lewdog]

Yordano Ventura. Kelvin Herrera. Royals baseball.


I wish Goins didn't call him off that ball, but unfortunately he did.


Unlike you, some of us can admit our team's/players faults.

Yordano's actions against the Chi Sox were uncalled for and ugly. I never stood by what he did.

[ghak99]

From this day forward I'll call him, Canadian Clay.


ROFL

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I'd say there are plenty of players on both the Jays and Royals using PEDs.

The Royals are among the league worst in HR every single year, including 25th this year, 24th last year, and 30th in 2014. Do you really believe that, or are you just being Canadian Clay?

[KC_Connection]

But he cannot miraculously change someone's swing to make them hit 50+ HRs.
You're right, I'm sure he solely had access to some magical 50 HR drug that nobody else in the history of baseball ever used instead. If anything, he's selfish for not sharing it with all of the other journeymen players that have come through Toronto and done nothing for the Jays.

[lewdog]

You really have a thing about Canadians, don't you?

I only dislike the dumb Canadians.

Which are depicted in red on this map.

http://resourcesforhistoryteachers.wikispaces.com/file/view/597px-Canada_in_North_America.svg.png/439688616/715x717/597px-Canada_in_North_America.svg.png

[KC_Connection]

The Royals are among the league worst in HR every single year, including 25th this year, 24th last year, and 30th in 2014. Do you really believe that, or are you just being Canadian Clay?
I believe a significant percentage of MLB players are still on PEDs. The fact that the Royals have a team full of contact hitters that play in a HR suppressing park does nothing to change my mind about that, no.

[KC_Connection]

I only dislike the dumb Canadians.

If I'm dumb, I almost hesitate to ask what that makes you. LMAO

[KC_Connection]

Unlike you, some of us can admit our team's/players faults.

Yordano's actions against the Chi Sox were uncalled for and ugly. I never stood by what he did.
So I should I be apologizing for Bautista's HR/playoff celebration against the Rangers, then (which is what Texas hilariously took issue with)? Are we saying that's on that same level as Yordano's actions now?

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Yordano Ventura. Kelvin Herrera. Royals baseball.


Why? Cause they hit batters with pitches sometimes? So how do you feel about Aaron Sanchez, then?

[lewdog]

If I'm dumb, I almost hesitate to ask what that makes you. LMAO

OOOhhhh burn....sick burn!!!

[lewdog]

So I should I be apologizing for Bautista's HR/playoff celebration against the Rangers, then (which is what Texas hilariously took issue with)? Are we saying that's on that same level as Yordano's actions now?

How you're trying to pull those two into comparison is utterly retarded. And that's not what I said at all.


I'm simply pointing out the fact that Bautista has done enough to deserve the punch he received today. The fact you can't reason that because he's a Blue Jay and solely that, is hilarious.

[KC_Connection]

Why? Cause they hit batters with pitches sometimes?

I think you know why after what Herrera did to Lawrie last year (or tried to do) and Yordano's collection of behavior since he's arrived in the majors.


So how do you feel about Aaron Sanchez, then?
I could certainly do without him throwing pitches at other players for contrived reasons.

[SAUTO]

Good for you. Doesn't diminish the comedy of a punch that would have left 95% of this forum fetal being criticized by the Cus D'Amato of the Ozarks. 8 inch dong. 4.40 forty.

I'm way slower than that.

What was I wrong about in my critique?

[Don Corlemahomes]

You're right, I'm sure he solely had access to some magical 50 HR drug that nobody else in the history of baseball ever used instead. If anything, he's selfish for not sharing it with all of the other journeymen players that have come through Toronto and done nothing for the Jays.

Brady Anderson, Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Ortiz, and most recently Colabello had access to it.

[KC_Connection]

I'm simply pointing out the fact that Bautista has done enough to deserve the punch he received today. The fact you can't reason that because he's a Blue Jay and solely that, is hilarious.
All he's ever really done "disrespectful" in his career is hit a lot of HRs and pimp/bat flip a few of them while doing it. He's far from the first person to do so in MLB and is part of a greater shift towards more celebrations in the sport altogether. In fact, the current NL MVP Bryce Harper is an even bigger proponent of that kind of behavior than he is (do you hate him too?). Some old-school guys take issue with the bat flips and the celebrations, I guess, and it seems you are one of them.

[KC_Connection]

Brady Anderson, Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Ortiz, and most recently Colabello had access to it.
Haha, Bonds.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I think you know why after what Herrera did to Lawrie last year (or tried to do)

Throwing inside and almost hitting him? Is that illegal?

[lewdog]

All he's ever really done "disrespectful" in his career is hit a lot of HRs and pimp/bat flip a few of them while doing it. He's far from the first person to do so in MLB and is part of a greater shift towards more celebrations in the sport altogether. In fact, the current NL MVP Bryce Harper is an even bigger proponent of that kind of behavior than he is (do you hate him too?). Some old-school guys take issue with the bat flips and the celebrations, I guess, and it seems you are one of them.

I do not actually. Celebrations are fine. Bryce Harper is a legit pimp. It's Bautista's constant talking during games, yapping at umpires, complaining about balls/strikes every game and his media comments that leave me wanting him not to be a douche. And then his slide today was pretty great, although the Rangers had that coming after hitting him I suppose. No real issue with the HBP or slide today. I just laugh at how tough he says he is but he didn't even get a punch in and was snuggling with Beltre instead. He's just that, all talk and no action.

[KC_Connection]

Throwing inside and almost hitting him? Is that illegal?
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/365/329/bd945b149dd8807ea08d93456bb1230f_crop_exact.jpg?w=1500&h=1500&q=85

[KC_Connection]

I do not actually. Celebrations are fine. Bryce Harper is a legit pimp. It's Bautista's constant talking during games, yapping at umpires, complaining about balls/strikes every game and his media comments that leave me wanting him not to be a douche.
Bryce Harper does all of those things and to an even higher degree than Bautista. He even got suspended just the other day for swearing at an umpire. If you hate Bautista, you should definitely not like Bryce either.


He's just that, all talk and no action.
Except on the actual field where it matters where he's hit big HR after big HR in his career, right? LMAO

[lewdog]

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/365/329/bd945b149dd8807ea08d93456bb1230f_crop_exact.jpg?w=1500&h=1500&q=85

I still don't exactly understand all of that scenario but Herrera said why he was pointing to his head was to say "why would I aim at your head, think about it, I wouldn't."

Again, you are just going to defend every action of the Blue Jays though right?

[lewdog]

Bryce Harper does all of those things and to an even higher degree than Bautista. He even got suspended just the other day for swearing at an umpire. If you hate Bautista, you should definitely not like Bryce either.



That ump had it coming.

I think Jose's long track record of whining wins out on this argument. Harper is intense and picks his spots. Bautista is just constant with all of it.

Bryce Harper is the tits.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

All he's ever really done "disrespectful" in his career is hit a lot of HRs and pimp/bat flip a few of them while doing it. He's far from the first person to do so in MLB and is part of a greater shift towards more celebrations in the sport altogether. In fact, the current NL MVP Bryce Harper is an even bigger proponent of that kind of behavior than he is (do you hate him too?). Some old-school guys take issue with the bat flips and the celebrations, I guess, and it seems you are one of them.

As lewdog already mentioned, the bat flip is the least of his flaws. He's just a douche, man. He throws tantrums about every single strike that is ever called on him. He continues jabbering on about it for five or ten minutes from the dugout. He throws his teammates under the bus.

Even a Blue Jays blog wrote about what a baby he is:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/blue_jays_baseball_blog/2013/06/the-bullpen-jose-bautista-has-no-excuse-for-temper-tantrum.html

[KC_Connection]

I still don't exactly understand all of that scenario
Neither do I. They had already hit Lawrie and got their retribution (and Lawrie accepted it). There was no reason for Herrera to take it in his own hands and go for him again even higher.

[lewdog]

Canadian Clay, good night.

[KC_Connection]

That ump had it coming.

I think Jose's long track record of whining wins out on this argument. Harper is intense and picks his spots. Bautista is just constant with all of it.

Bryce Harper is the tits.
Bryce Harper "whined" his way through junior college and the minors, getting ejections at every turn.


On June 2, 2010, Harper was ejected from a National Junior College World Series game by home plate umpire Don Gilmore after a called third strike. Harper drew a line in the dirt with his bat as he left the plate, presumably to show where he thought the pitch was. It was Harper's second ejection of the year, and resulted in a two-game suspension. The suspension ended his amateur career, as Southern Nevada lost the game from which Harper was ejected and lost their next game with Harper suspended, which eliminated them from the tournament


His behavior certainly hasn't changed in the majors either. The guy might be the only player in the league who actually bitches more about the shitty umpires than Bautista (not that I blame either of them, the standard is piss poor). You're engaging in a clear double standard here.

[BigRedChief]

Most baseball "fights" are people standing around, maybe a push or two. You rarely see a quality punch thrown and landed. :thumb:

[KC_Connection]

Canadian Clay, good night.
Is the real Clay ever coming back, BTW? Too many weak trolls out there not ready to take his place.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Joey Bats ROFL What a dumbfuck nickname anyway

[Mama Hip Rockets]

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/365/329/bd945b149dd8807ea08d93456bb1230f_crop_exact.jpg?w=1500&h=1500&q=85

https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/blogs/baseball/6a00d8341bf8f353ef019103389608970c.jpg.size.xxxlarge.promo.jpg


https://d13csqd2kn0ewr.cloudfront.net/uploads/image/file/50010/cropped_josetemper.gif?ts=1400718675

http://i0.wp.com/mopupduty.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Jose-Bautista.jpg

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/10/17/images/mlbf_523700083_th_43.jpg

https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/454090628.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=620

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/toronto-blue-jays-manager-john-gibbons-separates-jose-bautista-from-picture-id480528280

https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/bautista1.jpg?quality=65&strip=all

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jose-bautista-of-the-toronto-blue-jays-argues-a-strike-three-call-by-picture-id527368402

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/4/22/1429726395384/6cac0239-c58c-4b8d-b0fb-90e464d76e9b-1020x612.jpeg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jose-bautista-of-the-toronto-blue-jays-and-ryan-goins-argue-with-mlb-picture-id531651714

http://storage.torontosun.com/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297598518285_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=650x

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jose-bautista-of-the-toronto-blue-jays-voices-a-complaint-with-the-picture-id450204040

[KC_Connection]

Barking at umpires...throwing pitches at hitters' heads, what's the difference really?

[Prison Bitch]

Rough 6 months for Bats. Humiliated by KC in the ALCS then basically posterized by a punch to the face. At some point you wonder if he says this isn't worth it, and walks away from the game

[BigRock]

Way too many people are calling Bautista a douche. Douches can actually fight odor.

[Why Not?]

Way too many people are calling Bautista a douche. Douches can actually fight Odor.

Link?

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Joey Bats is a total bitch and got exactly what he deserved. He's had it coming for a long time.

Odor can be a dick too, but he's getting my All-Star vote for that punch alone.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Way too many people are calling Bautista a douche. Douches can actually fight odor.:clap:

[ChiefsCountry]

Sporting KC trolling Bautista as well.

[suzzer99]

I still don't exactly understand all of that scenario but Herrera said why he was pointing to his head was to say "why would I aim at your head, think about it, I wouldn't."

Come on dude. No way that's what he was saying. But I feel like that is the exact moment we stopped getting bullied last year, and have no problem with it whatsoever. Gotta make them think you LOCO!

[T-post Tom]

I will fight Greg Zaun while wearing a Ventura jersey.

http://www.mlbjersey.top/images/kansas-city-royals/royals-30-yordano-ventura-flexbase-gold-champions-jersey.jpg

[Chiefspants]

Fully expected a Baghdad Bob style response from KC_Connection.

I wasn't disappointed.

[T-post Tom]

Never gets old...

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--M2TdiV34--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/dzytltukqx096x7lbsyd.gif

[Chiefspants]

Barking at umpires...throwing pitches at hitters' heads, what's the difference really?

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To be fair this was before the Donaldson era, so it may predate your fandom a bit.

[T-post Tom]

http://youtu.be/8_LQL2VWg9c

To be fair this was back in the Caleb Joseph era, so it may predate your fandom a bit.

ROFL REP!

[Sassy Squatch]

Best part is the sunglasses flying off. That pulls everything together quite nicely.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiiQtzvU4AAI9pq.jpg

[Archie F. Swin]

Rougned Odor is my new favorite Texas Ranger
Rougned Odor is my new favorite baseball player
Rougned Odor is my new favorite person.

Yes, he's my new favorite person.

[KCUnited]

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b539/KCUnited1/2016-05/a0f3140a-86ef-4b0a-95bb-d2776be6e5c6_zpsp2b4ndcm.jpg

[cabletech94]

Plus one billion Google-plex plus 1.

[Spott]

Too bad they got separated. Bautista was clearly senseless after that hit and would have gotten beaten down pretty good if it would have continued.

[booyaf2]

Never gets old...

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--M2TdiV34--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/dzytltukqx096x7lbsyd.gif

The fan in the background is legit as well

[ChiTown]

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b539/KCUnited1/2016-05/a0f3140a-86ef-4b0a-95bb-d2776be6e5c6_zpsp2b4ndcm.jpg

:clap:

[Great Expectations]

I love the pic of the Jays coach "separating" Salvy and Joey Douche. That would be a fun ass whipping to watch.

[Bob Dole]

The fan in the background is legit as well

That's exactly how Bob Dole reacted while watching it in the bar.

[suzzer99]

ESPN had a boxing analyst talk about the punch. Said Odor got full extension and did everything right except he raised his elbow some, which saps the power of the punch. That could have been enough to prevent the KO. Said Bautista brought a knife to a gun fight (essentially) and got himself caught in no-man's land - too close but w/o any plan of attack or defense.

[DaFace]

ESPN had a boxing analyst talk about the punch. Said Odor got full extension and did everything right except he raised his elbow some, which saps the power of the punch. That could have been enough to prevent the KO. Said Bautista brought a knife to a gun fight (essentially) and got himself caught in no-man's land - too close but w/o any plan of attack or defense.

To be fair to Bautista, he was expecting a scuffle, not a fist fight. If he'd been more prepared to defend himself, there's no way Odor would have gotten near as clean a hit as that.

Really, it was a pretty cheap shot that is only acceptable because the guy on the receiving end deserved it.

[Halfcan]

The fan in the background is legit as well

Too bad ODor still had his glove on-he could have followed up with a nice left uppercut as the Dickhead was slumping. :clap:

That was a great hit-not as good as Nolan Ryan beating Robin Ventura-but pretty good!

[SAUTO]

ESPN had a boxing analyst talk about the punch. Said Odor got full extension and did everything right except he raised his elbow some, which saps the power of the punch. That could have been enough to prevent the KO. Said Bautista brought a knife to a gun fight (essentially) and got himself caught in no-man's land - too close but w/o any plan of attack or defense.
So the boxing analyst said basically the same thing I said in this thread yesterday?

Where is jsp to make fun of him?

[ChiefsCountry]

So the boxing analyst said basically the same thing I said in this thread yesterday?

Where is jsp to make fun of him?

You damn hick Ozark mechanic :D

[SAUTO]

To be fair to Bautista, he was expecting a scuffle, not a fist fight. If he'd been more prepared to defend himself, there's no way Odor would have gotten near as clean a hit as that.

Really, it was a pretty cheap shot that is only acceptable because the guy on the receiving end deserved it.
Come on now, bautista was making a fist too. He was just slow

[SAUTO]

You damn hick Ozark mechanic :D

ROFL.

[suzzer99]

Come on now, bautista was making a fist too. He was just slow

Bautista was expecting a little more shovey shovey. Odor went straight to business after the first shove.

[SAUTO]

Bautista was expecting a little more shovey shovey. Odor went straight to business after the first shove.

He's a fucking idiot then.


Edit: I think we already knew that though

[KCUnited]

Yeah, I'm not seeing anything cheap about that punch. They were both facing each other, and as mentioned, Bautista was balling up when he got tagged. This wasn't a pistol dual where they count to 3.

[gblowfish]

Too bad ODor still had his glove on-he could have followed up with a nice left uppercut as the Dickhead was slumping. :clap:

That was a great hit-not as good as Nolan Ryan beating Robin Ventura-but pretty good!

Nah, the bitch slap with the glove was the cherry on top after the right cross haymaker.

[dls6501]

#teambautista

[Don Corlemahomes]

#teambautista

Bricks? If you are bricks, I think I speak for most here when i say you can eat my entire ass.

[SAUTO]

Bricks? If you are bricks, I think I speak for most here when i say you can eat my entire ass.

Be careful, bricks is innocent. He might come looking for you

[Mr. Kotter]

Priceless.... ROFL

[Don Corlemahomes]

Be careful, bricks is innocent. He might come looking for you

In that case, I won't shower for three days while seeking out certain foods that are known to cause explosive GI distress days in advance of said ass-eating.

But seriously, I don't understand. Come looking for me? :shrug:

[SAUTO]

In that case, I won't shower for three days while seeking out certain foods that are known to cause explosive GI distress days in advance of said ass-eating.

But seriously, I don't understand. Come looking for me? :shrug:

yeah hes fucking nuts.

look at his posts in the NBA thread. he's ate up

[RobBlake]

baseball players are such pussies lol "bat flip"

[dls6501]

Bricks? If you are bricks, I think I speak for most here when i say you can eat my entire ass.

I dont know what that means. Bricks?

[Pitt Gorilla]

To be fair to Bautista, he was expecting a scuffle, not a fist fight. If he'd been more prepared to defend himself, there's no way Odor would have gotten near as clean a hit as that.

Really, it was a pretty cheap shot that is only acceptable because the guy on the receiving end deserved it.Bautista was balling up when he got tagged.

[Munson]

http://sportsdaydfw.imgix.net/1463412497-Untitled-1.jpg?q=50&auto=format&w=900

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13173946_528367493458_6491011205930723498_n.jpg?oh=5aa0902ec943f21164c24da0e0172160&oe=57D6D60A

[ChiTown]

Bautista was balling up when he got tagged.

This

Fuck that big-eared bitch

[suzzer99]

Bautista was balling up when he got tagged.

I like how Odor lands a haymaker before Bautista can even finish making a fist.

[kcfanXIII]

Only a blind fool would still think Kelvin threw at Lawrie's head. That pitch was at the numbers. It was also in retaliation for yet another hit batter in that game.

[KCUnited]

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b539/KCUnited1/2016-05/14307d9b-749d-4af8-a7f7-223291f68223_zpsqppjmnlx.jpg

[eDave]

baseball players are such pussies lol "bat flip"

"play the game the right way"

[KC_Connection]

"play the game the right way"

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[RobBlake]

"play the game the right way"

oh no, a player is hyped up. Thats one of the best aspects of watching competitors.. it's what makes NBA exciting is seeing the athlete hyped up after a huge play. Don't want him hyped? Strike him out. Don't whine like a bitch, it's sports. How boring is it to see emotionless plays. Should the pitcher shake his hand as he touches home base and say good hit, ol' chap?

[KC_Connection]

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Interesting that it wasn't the first time that Odor used the shove and right hook move to instigate a brawl.

[KC_Connection]

oh no, a player is hyped up. Thats one of the best aspects of watching competitors.. it's what makes NBA exciting is seeing the athlete hyped up after a huge play. Don't want him hyped? Strike him out. Don't whine like a bitch, it's sports.
Couldn't agree more. If they didn't want to watch Bautista celebrate a series-winning HR, perhaps they should have gotten him out at the time instead of stewing in their own frustration for 6 months before throwing at him and starting a fight with him in his last AB like a bunch of gutless pukes.

[sedated]

KCC doing his best Amnorix impression.

[KC_Connection]

KCC doing his best Amnorix impression.
Of course, the difference there being that all Bautista did was a bat flip, not cheat the sport. I do so enjoy that his HRs over the years have rankled so many here, though.

[Eleazar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">blah, blah, something about glass houses… <a href="https://t.co/Tdekg2c2Kq">pic.twitter.com/Tdekg2c2Kq</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Morrow (@2Morrow23) <a href="https://twitter.com/2Morrow23/status/732287105376772096">May 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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The takeout slide is part of the game. Douchtista didn't get jawed for the takeout slide. He got it for being despised by everyone.

He shouldn't have stepped up to Odor if he couldn't take a punch. bull/horns, superman's cape, choose your own analogy.

[KCUnited]

LMAO How many Toronto children got soaked with dad's thrown beer after the Odor punch? :)

[Eleazar]

Of course, the difference there being that all Bautista did was a bat flip, not cheat the sport. I do so enjoy that his HRs over the years have rankled so many here, though.

If only he could come through when it mattered.

Or catch a pop foul when it mattered.

Or throw to the right base when it mattered.

Nice stats for a couple years tho.

[KC_Connection]

He got it for being despised by everyone.

No, he actually got it for hitting a HR and doing a bat flip on the Rangers in the playoffs, which makes it all the more hilariously pathetic on their part.


He shouldn't have stepped up to Odor if he couldn't take a punch. bull/horns, superman's cape, choose your own analogy.
I agree. Bautista should have researched Odor's past and known the little shit always goes for the shove and right hook move to instigate brawls.

[KC_Connection]

If only he could come through when it mattered.

You mean like when he hit a series winning HR against the Rangers in the ALDS?

Or when he tied game 6 of the ALCS with his 2nd HR of the game in the 8th?

Damn, he's unclutch. LMAO

[notorious]

Cowherd said that this might define his career.


I think it sucks, but I kind of agree.

[Spott]

You know what's cool about Canada?

Nothing

[notorious]

You know what's cool about Canada?

Nothing

Beer and the weather.

Chicks are hot.

[RobBlake]

The takeout slide is part of the game. Douchtista didn't get jawed for the takeout slide. He got it for being despised by everyone.

He shouldn't have stepped up to Odor if he couldn't take a punch. bull/horns, superman's cape, choose your own analogy.

potentially tearing an ACL is part of the game but a whole sports fanbase goes up an arms about a bat flip, lmao.

[lewdog]

KC Connection still unable to understand why so many people don't like Bautista. Not saying you can't obviously like him, but can't you see where all the hate comes from or are you too much of a homer?

[RobBlake]

If only he could come through when it mattered.

Or catch a pop foul when it mattered.

Or throw to the right base when it mattered.

Nice stats for a couple years tho.

OT: i asked before, but Johnny Marr Avi?

[eDave]

oh no, a player is hyped up. Thats one of the best aspects of watching competitors.. it's what makes NBA exciting is seeing the athlete hyped up after a huge play. Don't want him hyped? Strike him out. Don't whine like a bitch, it's sports. How boring is it to see emotionless plays. Should the pitcher shake his hand as he touches home base and say good hit, ol' chap?

The right way is to plunk him, earlier in the game. And said plunked player accepts that. Settled.

But not with your boy. He retaliated the expected retaliation. He does not play the game the right way.

[KC_Connection]

KC Connection still unable to understand why so many people don't like Bautista.

Considering you love Bryce Harper who is basically a younger, more extreme and superior version of Bautista, there are aspects of it that I find a bit odd.


Not saying you can't obviously like him, but can't you see where all the hate comes from or are you too much of a homer?
Absolutely. When you are that good and don't make a habit of hiding that fact, you're not going to be liked by most opposing fans. Take LeBron James for one.

[DaneMcCloud]

You know what's cool about Canada?

Nothing

Canada is bad ass. It's unreal to see the cleanliness of their cities, whether it's Toronto, Quebec City, Vancouver or Halifax.

The people are great, the beer is great and the women, especially in the French provinces, are stunning.

I couldn't care less about their baseball team or the CFL but it's a really great place to visit or live.

[stonedstooge]

I'll bet there was 736 active MLB players yesterday wishing they were in Odor's shoes

[KC_Connection]

Canada is bad ass. It's unreal to see the cleanliness of their cities, whether it's Toronto, Quebec City, Vancouver or Halifax.

The people are great, the beer is great and the women, especially in the French provinces, are stunning.

I couldn't care less about their baseball team or the CFL but it's a really great place to visit or live.
Don't tell lewdog. He has a thing about Canada.

[notorious]

Canada is bad ass. It's unreal to see the cleanliness of their cities, whether it's Toronto, Quebec City, Vancouver or Halifax.

The people are great, the beer is great and the women, especially in the French provinces, are stunning.

I couldn't care less about their baseball team or the CFL but it's a really great place to visit or live.

Vancouver FTW.

[DaneMcCloud]

Vancouver FTW.

They're all awesome cities.

I went to Victoria Island in like 2008 and it was incredible.

We took a short flight back and forth from Vancouver with a view that was just flat out amazing.

[Chief Northman]

For the record:

What happened to Bautista yesterday was vigorously applauded by me yesterday.

Hate the Jays, especially that d-bag Bautista and John Gibbons is a moron of epic proportion. The city of Toronto can go fuck themselves in every orifice.

I am a proud Canadian who hates Toronto. Freedom of speech. Gotta love it.

[KC_Connection]

I am a proud Canadian who hates Toronto. Freedom of speech. Gotta love it.
What part of Canada?

[Don Corlemahomes]

KC Connection doing his best bautista impression in this thread

[lewdog]

Don't tell lewdog. He has a thing about Canada.

I have a thing against dumbass Canadians.

You're fitting in perfectly.

[lewdog]

Considering you love Bryce Harper who is basically a younger, more extreme and superior version of Bautista, there are aspects of it that I find a bit odd.


Absolutely. When you are that good and don't make a habit of hiding that fact, you're not going to be liked by most opposing fans. Take LeBron James for one.

Jesus, what's not to get here. This is the third time I will explain it to you.

I said I like Harper. He's 100% better than Bautista and doesn't whine near the frequency that Joey Butthurt does. Doesn't mean I don't understand why many don't like Harper though. I think Ventura is immature and I didn't condone his behavior in that series last year. I can see why many don't like him either. He's also not a favorite Royal of mine due to some of this behavior.

I am not going to go around white knighting all the Royals players. Your holier-than-thou shtick with Bautista is retarded.

[Chief Northman]

What part of Canada?

SK

[KC_Connection]

I said I like Harper. He's 100% better than Bautista and doesn't whine near the frequency that Joey Butthurt does.

Then you might want to actually watch Harper a bit more because he complains to the umpires more than anybody in baseball. The double standard here is obvious.


Your holier-than-thou shtick with Bautista is retarded.
If you expect me to apologize for Bautista being good and him celebrating that fact through bat flips/pimping, think again.

[Nightfyre]

Bautista is an entitled egomaniac. It is easy to see why people hate him; unless, of course, you are KCC.

[KC_Connection]

SK
Who is your MLB team then or are you not a big baseball fan?

[KC_Connection]

Bautista is an entitled egomaniac.
As are most of the professional athletes at that level that you or I have ever cheered for. It's almost a necessary trait.

[Nightfyre]

KCC, do you actually believe half the tripe you type?

[KC_Connection]

KCC, do you actually believe half the tripe you type?
Depends on the context. What I just typed at you, though, is obvious.

[Great Expectations]

Two important terms to understand when dealing with the average person in a debate on thepair favorite sports team. The lower the IQ the higher the individual suffers from these two tendencies:

Belief Preservation - the tendency to make evidence subservient to belief, rather than the other way around. (It's called closed-mindedness by many, but we all suffer from it to some degree.) We find patterns that we want to see and if we "believe' something then it is very difficult to sway us away from it with the greatest logic and evidence, because it's emotional now because we believe it. We have a sense of ownership to it and in that way it begins to define us, on some level.

Confirmation bias - the tendency to focus only on evidence that supports our beliefs, while being completely blind and in denial to mounting evidence that suggests the opposite of our beliefs.

Everyone suffers from these two innate tendencies in some form or degree. But the open-minded person, usually with a higher IQ than average, recognizes these tendencies in themselves and allows the evidence to be examined with a more open, humbled mind. The more you know, the more you realize you don't know a thing, type-of reasoning. A rigid mind lends itself to hypocrisy.
Transcendence - evolving beyond belief preservation and confirmation bias, these are significant cognitive stumbling blocks that keep us from forming a better society.
Being aware of it can lead to doing something about perhaps?

[KC_Connection]

Two important terms to understand when dealing with the average person in a debate on thepair favorite sports team. The lower the IQ the higher the individual suffers from these two tendencies:

Belief Preservation - the tendency to make evidence subservient to belief, rather than the other way around. (It's called closed-mindedness by many, but we all suffer from it to some degree.) We find patterns that we want to see and if we "believe' something then it is very difficult to sway us away from it with the greatest logic and evidence, because it's emotional now because we believe it. We have a sense of ownership to it and in that way it begins to define us, on some level.

Confirmation bias - the tendency to focus only on evidence that supports our beliefs, while being completely blind and in denial to mounting evidence that suggests the opposite of our beliefs.

Everyone suffers from these two innate tendencies in some form or degree. But the open-minded person, usually with a higher IQ than average, recognizes these tendencies in themselves and allows the evidence to be examined with a more open, humbled mind. The more you know, the more you realize you don't know a thing, type-of reasoning. A rigid mind lends itself to hypocrisy.
Transcendence - evolving beyond belief preservation and confirmation bias, these are significant cognitive stumbling blocks that keep us from forming a better society.
Being aware of it can lead to doing something about perhaps?

From the writer of:

http://idkbutneitherdoyou.blogspot.com/



Two important terms to understand when dealing with the average person in a debate on the political, social or religious levels. The lower the IQ the higher the individual suffers from these two tendencies:

Belief Preservation - the tendency to make evidence subservient to belief, rather than the other way around. (It's called closed-mindedness by many, but we all suffer from it to some degree.) We find patterns that we want to see and if we "believe' something then it is very difficult to sway us away from it with the greatest logic and evidence, because it's emotional now because we believe it. We have a sense of ownership to it and in that way it begins to define us, on some level.

Confirmation bias - the tendency to focus only on evidence that supports our beliefs, while being completely blind and in denial to mounting evidence that suggests the opposite of our beliefs.

Everyone suffers from these two innate tendencies in some form or degree. But the open-minded person, usually with a higher IQ than average, recognizes these tendencies in themselves and allows the evidence to be examined with a more open, humbled mind. The more you know, the more you realize you don't know a thing, type-of reasoning. A rigid mind lends itself to hypocrisy.
Transcendence - evolving beyond belief preservation and confirmation bias, these are significant cognitive stumbling blocks that keep us from forming a better society.
Being aware of it can lead to doing something about perhaps?
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=12186955&postcount=1636

You really seem to like that post, don't you? LMAO

[Great Expectations]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=12186955&postcount=1636

You really seem to like that post, don't you? LMAO

Yes, it really fits well in this thread and in a lot of ones in DC.

[KC_Connection]

Yes, it really fits well in this thread and in a lot of ones in DC.
Stick to embarrassing yourself with shit like that in DC, it will be better for everyone involved.

[lewdog]

If you expect me to apologize for Bautista being good and him celebrating that fact through bat flips/pimping, think again.


And again you haven't figured out the point I am making this entire time. That slide and/or bat flipping did not cause that punch. There are PLENTY of players who would have loved to do what Odor did to Bautista. He's not super liked even though you clearly pray to him at night.


You might want to actually watch Bautista a bit more. This time without the rose colored glasses on.

[PunkinDrublic]

I can't believe I passed up going to this game to watch that shitty new George Clooney movie. I fucking suck!

[KC_Connection]

You might want to actually watch Bautista a bit more. This time without the rose colored glasses on.
Says the guy who likes Bryce Harper despite him exhibiting exactly the same behavioral traits to an even greater extent. LMAO

[Chief Northman]

Who is your MLB team then or are you not a big baseball fan?

Was the Expos.

'94 crushed me. My following of baseball has never been the same.

Quietly rooted for the BoSox after '94. Followed the Giants to a lesser degree, but respect what they did after Bonds left the game (I admit I am a long time Barry Bonds fans even if he is a shady human being).

My passion for Chiefs football has caused me to follow the Royals more in recent years - I am happy for the city and the success they have experienced. Love visiting KC. I get there a couple times a year.

[lewdog]

Says the guy who likes Bryce Harper despite him exhibiting exactly the same behavioral traits to an even greater extent. LMAO

Ok. Last attempt. Answer these questions.


Do many people not like Harper?


Do many people not like Bautista?

[KC_Connection]

Ok. Last attempt. Answer these questions.
Absolutely on both accounts. There are even a few like yourself who engage in an enormous double standard despite their similar personalities, actions and behavioral traits.

[KC_Connection]

Was the Expos.

'94 crushed me. My following of baseball has never been the same.

Quietly rooted for the BoSox after '94. Followed the Giants to a lesser degree, but respect what they did after Bonds left the game (I admit I am a long time Barry Bonds fans even if he is a shady human being).

My passion for Chiefs football has caused me to follow the Royals more in recent years - I am happy for the city and the success they have experienced. Love visiting KC. I get there a couple times a year.
I see. A Bonds fan like myself as well (he's probably my favorite player ever). Would you follow the Expos if they ever came back, though? The commissioner said the other day that expansion there again was a possibility. I'd like to see baseball come back to that area.

[lewdog]

Absolutely on both accounts. There are even a few like yourself who engage in an enormous double standard despite their similar personalities, actions and behavioral traits.

When Bautista becomes a legit 5 tool player, let me know.

[Squalor2]

http://sportsdaydfw.imgix.net/1463354857-APTOPIX_BLUE_JAYS_RANGERS_BASEBALL_50549871.JPG?q=50&auto=format&w=900

this kinda shit is why you don't have a pool anymore.

[KC_Connection]

When Bautista becomes a legit 5 tool player, let me know.
So you're willing to engage in a double standard as long as Bryce Harper remains a great player. Makes sense, wouldn't have expected anything less. LMAO

[Chief Northman]

I see. A Bonds fan like myself as well (he's probably my favorite player ever). Would you follow the Expos if they ever came back, though? The commissioner said the other day that expansion there again was a possibility. I'd like to see baseball come back to that area.

Yeah, I'd probably follow the game more if MLB would return to Montreal. I think it would be good to have another team north of the border, and Montreal is too important a city with regards to baseball history to not seriously consider a return.

[DJJasonp]

look, every AL team not located in Canada sends a big "thank you" to Odor after yesterday's game.

Beyond the joey name calling, I'll dig deeper as to why all the teams are happy to see what happened to "bats":

1) he crowds the plate, and hangs his shoulder/arm over the plate, but then gets indignant when pitchers pitch "inside" on him (which, given his crowding of the plate, is over-exaggerated as to how inside the pitch really is)

2) in addition to the crowding the plate, he wears the body armor on his left arm/elbow which gives the batter that much more courage in hanging in there (full disclosure: many, many players are doing this - probably started by Bonds???? I dont agree with it, and the MLB needs to police this, as it puts more advantage in the batter's favor)

3) The guy whines incessantly about any called strike.

4) regardless of the bat flip and what you think of it - he's gotta know that kind of move is going to draw a retaliation. Wear it, and move on.


The only bigger whiner in the league happens to play for the same team - Donaldson.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

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To be fair this was before the Donaldson era, so it may predate your fandom a bit.

BOOM

[KC_Connection]

BOOM
Boom? I don't defend Stroman's actions here. Classless bullshit that has no place in baseball just like when Ventura and Herrera did it. Have no idea what any of that does has to do with Bautista's bat flip, though.

[Eleazar]

So you're willing to engage in a double standard as long as Bryce Harper remains a great player. Makes sense, wouldn't have expected anything less. LMAO

If you can't see why everyone who is not a fan of the Blue Jays hates the Blue Jays with a passion, your homer glasses are just too thick. And it's not because of all the pennants and World Series rings they have been accumulating.

[lewdog]

Boom? I don't defend Stroman's actions here. Classless bullshit that has no place in baseball just like when Ventura and Herrera did it. Have no idea what any of that does has to do with Bautista's bat flip, though.

ROFL

Dude, give it a rest for a while.

I can feel your potential brain aneurysm from here.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

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Interesting that it wasn't the first time that Odor used the shove and right hook move to instigate a brawl.

Odor didn't instigate the brawl, dumbass. Bautista slid 14 feet past the base and immediately got up and charged toward Odor.

[KC_Connection]

If you can't see why everyone who is not a fan of the Blue Jays hates the Blue Jays with a passion, your homer glasses are just too thick.

Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the "brawl" the two teams had last year. LMAO

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Of course, the difference there being that all Bautista did was a bat flip, not cheat the sport. I do so enjoy that his HRs over the years have rankled so many here, though.

Do you know how to read? No one here cares about his home runs or his bat flips. People hate him because of the way he conducts himself.

[KC_Connection]

Odor didn't instigate the brawl, dumbass. Bautista slid 14 feet past the base and immediately got up and charged toward Odor.
You're right, the shove and punch to the face doesn't count as instigation at all. LMAO