Auto Question Rear View Mirror Assembly

[petegz28]

So I bought Mrs. Pete a new (used) vehicle this weekend 2013 Ford Explorer, and it was unfortunately caught in the hail storm last week so Carmax said they would fix it for free. Okay, great. Well I go to pick it up today and the rear view mirror is very loose and bouncy. So I took the plastic plates off that cover all the wiring and lane keeping camera, etc and it looks like the glue is giving. The mirror and plastic covers don't seem to be flush against the glass thus the shaky mirror. I didn't want to take it totally apart for fear of the mirror coming completely off. It looks like they had to take it apart to get the headliner off to fix the dings on the roof and that they just pushed the mirror back into the glue that was there and didn't apply fresh.

So, is this just a matter of them re-applying fresh glue?

[Saulbadguy]

Trade it in ASAP

[lewdog]

I hope that car is on a lease.

[SAUTO]

They bought shitty glue

[petegz28]

They bought shitty glue

I'm not sure they even re-applied glue. That or it didn't set right or something. I assume it's just a matter of taking the mirror off and scraping the old glue off and re-applying the new. All of which they will do for free or pay for me to take it to the dealer I am sure.

[TribalElder]

Sprinkle some antifreeze on it

[GloryDayz]

Take it to JASONSAUTO and ask him to please fix other people's mistakes...

[cosmo20002]

I'm not sure they even re-applied glue. That or it didn't set right or something. I assume it's just a matter of taking the mirror off and scraping the old glue off and re-applying the new. All of which they will do for free or pay for me to take it to the dealer I am sure.

So, why are you asking us?
Minor problem that they will take care of--what's the issue here?

[petegz28]

So, why are you asking us?
Minor problem that they will take care of--what's the issue here?

I am asking to understand what is actually involved so I know if they do what they are supposed to do....

[GloryDayz]

I am asking to understand what is actually involved so I know if they do what they are supposed to do....

You should prolly PM JASONSAUTO. He knows cars and is a good man...

[DaveNull]

Hail stones can't melt automotive glue!

[Simply Red]

if you re glue - you need to razor all and any residual glue from first go around, that's the key - I just did this two months ago on the 135.

[Bugeater]

Ford Explorer? Sink it in a river and report it stolen.

[GloryDayz]

if you re glue - you need to razor all and any residual glue from first go around, that's the key - I just did this two months ago on the 135.

I did the same a few years back... It was all left on the windshield so it was easy to get with a razor, but the glue at Advance Auto worked very well.

[cosmo20002]

I am asking to understand what is actually involved so I know if they do what they are supposed to do....

So...you're not familiar with how glue works?

[BlackHelicopters]

Contact SAUTO for a fair and respectable repair. Don't mention that your health provider just prescribed you pain killers.

[HemiEd]

Permatex makes a little kit for it with the instructions. Even a caveman could do it.

That being said, the mirrors aren't as simple as they used to be. One of our customers took them to a whole different level.
http://www.gentex.com/automotive/mirror-module

[DC.chief]

Clean up the glass and the metal piece the mirror slides on. Glue the metal piece to the glass and make sure it's facing the right direction. Then let it sit over night and mount the mirror in the AM

[petegz28]

So instead of gluing the mirror back on they used 2 sided tape. Now the glass guy doesn't know if he will be able to bond to the glass so thus might turn into a new windshield

[WhawhaWhat]

Permatex makes a little kit for it with the instructions. Even a caveman could do it.

http://www.monologuedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ben-weber-geico-caveman.jpg

[Fish]

So instead of gluing the mirror back on they used 2 sided tape. Now the glass guy doesn't know if he will be able to bond to the glass so thus might turn into a new windshield

LMAO..... :facepalm:

I'd be pissed...

[Dartgod]

https://usatjrsportbrief.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/usatsi_7666875.jpg

FYP...

[TribalElder]

they used 2 sided tape.

Ford :D

[mikeyis4dcats.]

if your vehicle got hail damage before you took delivery I hope you negotiated a lower price, as it affected the value of the vehicle, fixed or not IMHO.

[petegz28]

if your vehicle got hail damage before you took delivery I hope you negotiated a lower price, as it affected the value of the vehicle, fixed or not IMHO.

It only effects the value if it is reported to Carfax or whatever. I did all the checking on that.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

It only effects the value if it is reported to Carfax or whatever. I did all the checking on that.

thats like saying that a car that had been in a major accident only has it's value affected if it was reported to carfax.

Either way, the car is no longer factory. It has (probably significant) body and paintwork done to it, which no matter what they tell you will never last as long as factory.

[SAUTO]

LMAO..... :facepalm:

I'd be pissed...

Wow. Me too, especially as the glue kit costs less than ten bucks...

[SAUTO]

So instead of gluing the mirror back on they used 2 sided tape. Now the glass guy doesn't know if he will be able to bond to the glass so thus might turn into a new windshield

Bullshit.

Pull the tape off and use the cleaner in the glue pack and then follow the instructions.

[SAUTO]

It only effects the value if it is reported to Carfax or whatever. I did all the checking on that.

ROFL

[HemiEd]

Ford :Dused car dealer, not even Ford would have done that.

[petegz28]

LMAO..... :facepalm:

I'd be pissed...

Yeah, I was like WTF? The Manager at Carmax was speechless. They contract out their dent work and he couldn't believe they did that. Oh well, it's all good.

[Amnorix]

:doh!: It doesn't get much more hopeless than me when it comes to mechanical stuff, but this fucking GLUE we're talking about. Glue. You don't understand glue technology?

You might need a new windshield because someone used double sided tape? What?

I don't know Jasonsauto, but stop before you find a way to do damage and get the car to him so he can (1) laugh at you, and (2) save you from yourself.

:p

[petegz28]

Bullshit.

Pull the tape off and use the cleaner in the glue pack and then follow the instructions.

That's what I thought. He was saying something about the glue he had and the size of the mirror base ...nevertheless he got it fixed and fixed right.

[petegz28]

:doh!: It doesn't get much more hopeless than me when it comes to mechanical stuff, but this ****ing GLUE we're talking about. Glue. You don't understand glue technology?

You might need a new windshield because someone used double sided tape? What?

I don't know Jasonsauto, but stop before you find a way to do damage and get the car to him so he can (1) laugh at you, and (2) save you from yourself.

:p

go whack off to Brady's deflated balls and STFU

[SAUTO]

:doh!: It doesn't get much more hopeless than me when it comes to mechanical stuff, but this fucking GLUE we're talking about. Glue. You don't understand glue technology?

You might need a new windshield because someone used double sided tape? What?

I don't know Jasonsauto, but stop before you find a way to do damage and get the car to him so he can (1) laugh at you, and (2) save you from yourself.

:p

ROFL

[petegz28]

thats like saying that a car that had been in a major accident only has it's value affected if it was reported to carfax.

Either way, the car is no longer factory. It has (probably significant) body and paintwork done to it, which no matter what they tell you will never last as long as factory.

K...

[Indian Chief]

It only effects the value if it is reported to Carfax or whatever. I did all the checking on that.

Carfax is not the only game in town. There are other, more comprehensive services that may have it listed.

[petegz28]

thats like saying that a car that had been in a major accident only has it's value affected if it was reported to carfax.

Either way, the car is no longer factory. It has (probably significant) body and paintwork done to it, which no matter what they tell you will never last as long as factory.

so you pay X for the car....

it hails the day before you buy the car, they keep the same price and fix it for free...

or

I pay less because of the hail damage and I have to get it fixed myself

net-net it's all about the same in the end....I mean if you want to look at it that way, they reduced the price of the car and I paid to have the hail damage fixed if that makes one feel better about the deal

[petegz28]

Carfax is not the only game in town. There are other, more comprehensive services that may have it listed.

authocheck and carfax are the 2 I see used the most but I don't doubt there are more, for sure

[Dartgod]

thats like saying that a car that had been in a major accident only has it's value affected if it was reported to carfax.

Either way, the car is no longer factory. It has (probably significant) body and paintwork done to it, which no matter what they tell you will never last as long as factory.

Most hail damage is repaired without body or paint work involved.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

so you pay X for the car....

it hails the day before you buy the car, they keep the same price and fix it for free...

or

I pay less because of the hail damage and I have to get it fixed myself

net-net it's all about the same in the end....I mean if you want to look at it that way, they reduced the price of the car and I paid to have the hail damage fixed if that makes one feel better about the deal

no, I'd say, gee thats great you want $10,000 but I know you just fixed the hail damage, now I'll give you $9,500 because it's not factory paint. I'd make the same adjustment for any vehicle I knew had bodywork.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Most hail damage is repaired without body or paint work involved.

some is, depends on the severity. I had 2 vehicles with hail damage in 2012 and both required some body work. I have since sold both because someone else can enjoy the rust if a few years.

[petegz28]

no, I'd say, gee thats great you want $10,000 but I know you just fixed the hail damage, now I'll give you $9,500 because it's not factory paint. I'd make the same adjustment for any vehicle I knew had bodywork.
But there was no paint involved...

[SAUTO]

some is, depends on the severity. I had 2 vehicles with hail damage in 2012 and both required some body work. I have since sold both because someone else can enjoy the rust if a few years.
If it was quality work you wouldn't have to worry about rust

[mikeyis4dcats.]

authocheck and carfax are the 2 I see used the most but I don't doubt there are more, for sure

all are worthless because none of the are mandatory. I saw a couple of vehicles that had obvious body work but neither were reported om Carfax. Neither of my vehicles that had hail damage and body work showed up. One of them that had some minor bumper damage repaired did show up.

[petegz28]

Most hail damage is repaired without body or paint work involved.
The hood of my suv looks brand spanking new..no painting was involved or drilling..

[ModSocks]

So instead of gluing the mirror back on they used 2 sided tape. Now the glass guy doesn't know if he will be able to bond to the glass so thus might turn into a new windshield

Wait? WHAAAT?

[ModSocks]

That's what I thought. He was saying something about the glue he had and the size of the mirror base ...nevertheless he got it fixed and fixed right.

Ah, ok. Was about to say......scammers for sure.

[petegz28]

Wait? WHAAAT?
The glass guy was worried that he wasn't going to be able to bond to the glass after they put all that tape on it. Didn't matter to me as it was costing me 0

[ModSocks]

The glass guy was worried that he wasn't going to be able to bond to the glass after they put all that tape on it. Didn't matter to me as it was costing me 0

That's still the most ridiculous shit i've ever heard in my life. Dude sounds like a scam artist that thought he might be able to swindle you into a new windshield + install.

[petegz28]

That's still the most ridiculous shit i've ever heard in my life. Dude sounds like a scam artist that thought he might be able to swindle you into a new windshield + install.
Wasn't swindling me. It was free if he said new glass...I was kinda hoping he would

[TribalElder]

I had a hail damaged car and found out when the car gets totaled you can't get full coverage (at least I couldn't at the time). This increased the payoff schedule to the next week.

It only costs 0 if you don't count the time you spent dealing with the problem :)

[cosmo20002]

Dear CP,

A funny thing happens when I turn on my windshield wipers. One of the wipers doesn't really get all the rain off very well. Any ideas?
Let me know what needs to be done so when I take it to my mechanic I know that he's doing it right. I'm thinking I may need a new engine block.

/petethread

[GloryDayz]

Dear CP,

A funny thing happens when I turn on my windshield wipers. One of the wipers doesn't really get all the rain off very well. Any ideas?
Let me know what needs to be done so when I take it to my mechanic I know that he's doing it right. I'm thinking I may need a new engine block.

/petethread

You're still pissed that the state won't let you drive, amirite?

[petegz28]

Dear CP,

A funny thing happens when I turn on my windshield wipers. One of the wipers doesn't really get all the rain off very well. Any ideas?
Let me know what needs to be done so when I take it to my mechanic I know that he's doing it right. I'm thinking I may need a new engine block.

/petethread

It must really suck to be you....no, really