View Full Version : Chiefs Go on Record: Next time Houston Will Play in the 20116/2017 Season
Otter
08-06-2016, 06:58 PM
I love pulling these back up for future reference. Poll forthcoming.
For those of you joining Mr. Flopnuts in a couple Old Crows this evening this poll about Justin Houston. That's our six-year, $101 million dollar linebacker.
IF A MOD COULD MAKE THIS A PUBLIC POLL THAT BE JUST SWELL!!!
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/kf6z6m/picture16400627/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/Houston%20Justin.JPG
Mr. Flopnuts
08-06-2016, 07:00 PM
I'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about. Help me, help you!
Mr. Flopnuts
08-06-2016, 07:01 PM
OH!!! Justin Houston. I think he'll play in the first half of the season, and through the season. By week 6, hopefully before. We're fucked if it's after that. Dee Ford isn't ready. Please prove me wrong.
O.city
08-06-2016, 07:03 PM
I hope by week 4
lewdog
08-06-2016, 07:04 PM
September 11th vs the Bears.
Otter
08-06-2016, 07:07 PM
There ya Mr. Flopnuts, I even included pictures.
Mr. Flopnuts
08-06-2016, 07:08 PM
DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT OLD CROW, YOU BALTIMORE BUTT FUCKER!!! Wait, does that make me sound more like I'm drinking some Old Crow? Fuuuu*******...
Mr. Flopnuts
08-06-2016, 07:08 PM
Love ya, Otter. I am at least drinking Buffalo Trace. ;)
Otter
08-06-2016, 07:10 PM
Love ya, Otter. I am at least drinking Buffalo Trace. ;)
Can you change this from private to public?
Simply Red
08-06-2016, 07:10 PM
@ Steelers.
Mr. Flopnuts
08-06-2016, 07:13 PM
Can you change this from private to public?
I think you're good brother. I tried to dig into the poll and it said invalid action. Let me know if there's any issues.
Otter
08-06-2016, 07:17 PM
I think you're good brother. I tried to dig into the poll and it said invalid action. Let me know if there's any issues.
Kind of meant public as so everyone can see what everyone else chose when they click on a result.
Like when you click on one of the numbers in Nzoners bash poll.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=299363
No biggie if can't be done. My dumb mistake. But if any other mods know how feel free to change if the fine young flopnuts is unable.
Perineum Ripper
08-06-2016, 07:19 PM
I say week 5
WhawhaWhat
08-06-2016, 07:21 PM
Game 13 vs Raiders
Sandy Vagina
08-06-2016, 07:23 PM
week 1 vs SD.. though roughly half of the defensive snaps.
kccrow
08-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Doubt he plays at all during the regular season, and at all. I voted playoffs. If he does play, it likely won't be until after Week 6. He'll start the season on the PUP.
Easy 6
08-06-2016, 08:12 PM
Week 12 @ Falcons
Seems like a safe bet, if I stick with that I can only be thrilled if it happens sooner
Hammock Parties
08-06-2016, 08:15 PM
Game 11. They won't want to rush him back and the team keeping their head above water will ensure they don't.
He first hurt the knee in game 11 last year, BTW.
JoeyChuckles
08-06-2016, 08:18 PM
Houston has a game week 1 against the Bears.
JoeyChuckles
08-06-2016, 08:18 PM
September 11th vs the Bears.
Damnit, you beat my by an hour.
The Franchise
08-06-2016, 08:21 PM
20116? How bad is his injury?
kccrow
08-06-2016, 08:24 PM
20116? How bad is his injury?
Deadly, apparently.
Otter
08-06-2016, 08:28 PM
Since it doesn't look like the poll is going public I went Game 9 @ Panthers
cdcox
08-06-2016, 08:33 PM
Dorsey said he thought he would play again, but he never said this season. He could be done.
JoeyChuckles
08-06-2016, 08:43 PM
When will stem cells be a viable treatment?
That's my guess.
DaneMcCloud
08-06-2016, 08:59 PM
No idea. Zero. Nada.
I'm not an orthopedic surgeon nor have I spoken with the Chiefs training staff.
If he's back this year, then awesome.
If not, the Chiefs will continue to win without him.
Hammock Parties
08-06-2016, 09:04 PM
If he's back this year, then awesome.
If not, the Chiefs will continue to win without him.
Most likely, yes.
Win multiple playoff games or a Super Bowl? Doubtful.
DaneMcCloud
08-06-2016, 09:23 PM
Most likely, yes.
Win multiple playoff games or a Super Bowl? Doubtful.
Disagree, Eeyore.
Hammock Parties
08-06-2016, 09:24 PM
Disagree, Eeyore.
You are basically counting on Dee Ford to have a breakout season as a top 10 pass rusher.
Without Houston the Chiefs pass rush becomes a liability against playoff-caliber offenses.
Hopeful guess- first raiders game
Pessimistic guess - second raiders game
You are basically counting on Dee Ford to have a breakout season as a top 10 pass rusher.
Without Houston the Chiefs pass rush becomes a liability against playoff-caliber offenses.
Dee Ford will be fine. It's Tamba who concerns me.
Hammock Parties
08-06-2016, 09:27 PM
Dee Ford will be fine. It's Tamba who concerns me.
That's the other part of it.
"Fine" and a guy who is on his last legs as an NFL player isn't much of an outside rush.
DaneMcCloud
08-06-2016, 09:28 PM
You are basically counting on Dee Ford to have a breakout season as a top 10 pass rusher.
Without Houston the Chiefs pass rush becomes a liability against playoff-caliber offenses.
I'm expecting the defense to perform to its level and the offense to improve.
The team is obviously better with Houston than without but they're a damn good team, either way.
That's the other part of it.
"Fine" and a guy who is on his last legs as an NFL player isn't much of an outside rush.
I agree. I'd feel a lot better with "Fine" and Houston playing.
I'm expecting the defense to perform to its level and the offense to improve.
The team is obviously better with Houston than without but they're a damn good team, either way.
Secondary still concerns me to a degree.
O.city
08-06-2016, 09:32 PM
They can win in the regular season without Houston (I'm not sure they can score hfa or anything like that without him) but I don't think they can win a superbowl without him.
RunKC
08-06-2016, 10:10 PM
Midseason.
It's a 6-12 month recovery, so a normal recovery time is usually 9 months. Houston is "ahead of schedule", so I think an 8 1/2 month recovery is very realistic. Either week 8 or 9.
MMXcalibur
08-06-2016, 10:34 PM
Right after the bye in Oakland.
Keep Ron Parker away.
threebag
08-06-2016, 10:52 PM
I have the first raiders game.
NJChiefsFan
08-06-2016, 10:58 PM
I'm expecting the defense to perform to its level and the offense to improve.
The team is obviously better with Houston than without but they're a damn good team, either way.
Hopefully, but Hali won't be able to drop off that much and Ford will absolutely have to take the next step if we are going to survive deep into the playoffs without Houston.
DaneMcCloud
08-06-2016, 11:05 PM
Hopefully, but Hali won't be able to drop off that much and Ford will absolutely have to take the next step if we are going to survive deep into the playoffs without Houston.
A healthy West, Maclin or Ware would have made a significant different in New England, even with three 2nd string offensive lineman and the absence of Houston last year.
Houston is a phenomenal player, no doubt, but if the Chiefs can play to their talent level this year, they're a damn good team.
KChiefs1
08-07-2016, 12:51 AM
Denver game.
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Nickhead
08-07-2016, 01:07 AM
it really depends.
are they undefeated and dee's gotten six sacks in three games.
or are they 4-6 with dee's nuts.
Hopefully by the second raiders game but I sense fear. Seems Houston has always been a slow healer and I dont think this is going as well as its been out to be. Dont rush him and cross fingers its not a career ending.
BlackHelicopters
08-07-2016, 07:45 AM
Out for season
FlaChief58
08-07-2016, 08:03 AM
Vs the bucs. Nice warm-up game to get ready for the stretch
jspchief
08-07-2016, 08:14 AM
A drop off in qb pressure could magnify the loss of Sean Smith.
scho63
08-07-2016, 09:05 AM
Because of his explosive nature and drive off the snap, I think they are going to make sure he is 1000% ready and sadly I see him missing 1/2 the season or more.
I hope I'm proven wrong because they would be a better result.
R Clark
08-07-2016, 09:33 AM
Because of his explosive nature and drive off the snap, I think they are going to make sure he is 1000% ready and sadly I see him missing 1/2 the season or more.
I hope I'm proven wrong because they would be a better result.
Iam afraid that your right on
Chiefshrink
08-07-2016, 09:49 AM
Read Mellinger's article and Dorsey definitely was back peddling from his April statement. I definitely don't think he is playing mind games with Houston for a sense of urgency or motivation sake but rather Dorsey found out more from the doctor IMHO. Houston's knee IMHO is healing much much slower than expected so much so Dorsey needed to get it out there that he may not even be back this season in order to save face.
I posted a theory last year of what might have happened between the doctor, Houston and Dorsey during the Houston return last year during the playoffs. I theorize that once both Dorsey and Houston realized just how legit and close they were to actually competing for a SB based on how good they were playing, they may both have gone against the Dr.s orders to sit out the rest of the season or the Dr. said your knee is very fragile right now and needs more rest because you are on the verge of tearing your ligaments, you could play but you take a big chance.
I think both Dorsey and Houston went against doctor's orders and paid a price in the long run returning last season. But considering how well we were playing without Houston and to think if we got him back to play even better made it that much more tempting to go against the Dr.s orders because realistically we could win the SB. And who can blame John and Justin for that ?
He is out for the season IMHO.:hmmm:
RealSNR
08-07-2016, 09:55 AM
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Jerok
08-07-2016, 10:51 AM
Week 8 jags. Want to start him at home against a team we should beat halfway grouch the season
SAUTO
08-07-2016, 10:57 AM
"Poe is gonna be out for the year"
Was the thread last year, remember?
New World Order
08-07-2016, 11:09 AM
Out for the year
Bowser
08-07-2016, 12:13 PM
He'll be back after the bye
RunKC
08-07-2016, 12:27 PM
He'll be back at some point even if it is later in The season. If they thought he wouldn't play at all, I'm sure they'd be looking to sign someone after cuts.
DaneMcCloud
08-07-2016, 12:50 PM
I think that if they had serious concerns about Houston missing the entire season or even the bulk of the entire season, they would have signed Dwight Freeney to an incentive laden contract, even if it was for 3rd downs only.
Chiefshrink
08-07-2016, 12:50 PM
He'll be back at some point even if it is later in The season. If they thought he wouldn't play at all, I'm sure they'd be looking to sign someone after cuts.
Good point. Pay attention to all the releases and especially those after the pre-season if we pick any 3/4 LBers up and if we do then he may be still out for the season.
Bwana
08-07-2016, 01:02 PM
If I were to throw a dart and take a SAWG, I'd go with week 8.
pugsnotdrugs19
08-07-2016, 01:26 PM
Game 6 vs. New Orleans is my best guess.
Regular season? Sure I think we could win 11 games without him. But I've said it before and will again, barring a HUGE jump from the offense, I don't think we can win deep into the playoffs without him.
He's our Von Miller. He's gotta be there to make those plays in the AFCCG and/or Super Bowl.
milkman
08-07-2016, 01:43 PM
Read Mellinger's article and Dorsey definitely was back peddling from his April statement. I definitely don't think he is playing mind games with Houston for a sense of urgency or motivation sake but rather Dorsey found out more from the doctor IMHO. Houston's knee IMHO is healing much much slower than expected so much so Dorsey needed to get it out there that he may not even be back this season in order to save face.
I posted a theory last year of what might have happened between the doctor, Houston and Dorsey during the Houston return last year during the playoffs. I theorize that once both Dorsey and Houston realized just how legit and close they were to actually competing for a SB based on how good they were playing, they may both have gone against the Dr.s orders to sit out the rest of the season or the Dr. said your knee is very fragile right now and needs more rest because you are on the verge of tearing your ligaments, you could play but you take a big chance.
I think both Dorsey and Houston went against doctor's orders and paid a price in the long run returning last season. But considering how well we were playing without Houston and to think if we got him back to play even better made it that much more tempting to go against the Dr.s orders because realistically we could win the SB. And who can blame John and Justin for that ?
He is out for the season IMHO.:hmmm:
I am now fully confident that Houston will return for game 6.
jspchief
08-07-2016, 02:10 PM
Say what you will about Mellinger's ability, but it doesn't change the words out of Dorsey's mouth.
I came away from that article thinking either Dorsey is sandbagging or Houston's prognosis is grim.
So my guess is either they are playing it safe and Houston returns early with little/no training camp. Or the 12 month initial time frame was accurate.
pugsnotdrugs19
08-07-2016, 04:52 PM
My best guess is that Dorsey is simply tempering expectations in an attempt to keep Houston from pushing himself too far.
If Houston can come back week 3 and be at 85%, or week 8 and be 100%, it needs to be week 8. They can't afford to dick this up when they already invested big $$$ in the guy.
Hammock Parties
08-07-2016, 05:24 PM
The last time I remember someone being this cagey about an injured player's return...
http://www.chiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/110114-PriestHolmes-Image6.jpg
BossChief
08-07-2016, 05:42 PM
I want a reporter to ask, specifically, if this is a nerve issue or not.
The ligament was never torn, per the best sports surgeon in the world...just hyperextended. Then they replaced it a few months later.
Hammock Parties
08-07-2016, 05:45 PM
I want a reporter to ask, specifically, if this is a nerve issue or not.
The ligament was never torn, per the best sports surgeon in the world...just hyperextended. Then they replaced it a few months later.
Doesn't matter. The recovery from surgery is gonna be the same.
pugsnotdrugs19
08-07-2016, 05:47 PM
I highly doubt it's a nerve issue. That's something you would almost certainly hear about by now.
Again, I think Dorsey and Co. are just looking to cover their tracks before they make any unnecessary promises. They have to do this thing carefully.
OnTheWarpath15
08-07-2016, 05:48 PM
Say what you will about Mellinger's ability, but it doesn't change the words out of Dorsey's mouth.
I came away from that article thinking either Dorsey is sandbagging or Houston's prognosis is grim.
So my guess is either they are playing it safe and Houston returns early with little/no training camp. Or the 12 month initial time frame was accurate.
This.
O.city
08-07-2016, 05:54 PM
Seems to be something, one way or the other.
All he had to say was "he's progressing normally" and leave it at that
stevieray
08-07-2016, 09:57 PM
I came away from that article thinking either Dorsey is sandbagging or Houston's prognosis is grim.
^
New World Order
08-07-2016, 10:14 PM
Seems to be something, one way or the other.
All he had to say was "he's progressing normally" and leave it at that
Not very reassuring.
No Houston and no real answer as of yet to a starting corner opposite of Peters.
I'm worried.
Nickhead
08-08-2016, 01:04 AM
my take is this:
he didn't tear anything initially. so let's compare to say sam bradford.
he tore ligaments, and was back in a year.
so given houston acl wasn't working properly,
id say 8 months would be a good guess. in reality.
Chief_For_Life58
08-08-2016, 08:22 AM
wtf, everyone thinks he wont be back until week 5??
Not very reassuring.
No Houston and no real answer as of yet to a starting corner opposite of Peters.
I'm worried.
Rightfully so.
pugsnotdrugs19
08-08-2016, 04:00 PM
IMHO, our interior pass rush should do enough to hold the fort through whatever regular season time Houston misses. There's several guys who can push the pocket in a QB's face quickly, and if Hali is healthy week 1 along with Ford, that's still a damn good outside rush. Just not the top 2-3 tandem that Houston and Hali have been.
If and when we get all of that OLB group and the DL healthy and playing together, good effin' luck to whoever is the opposition.
Discuss Thrower
08-08-2016, 04:02 PM
Week 13 unless KC is clearly out of the playoffs or already has a 3+ game lead on the next closest contender for a division title.
ThaVirus
08-08-2016, 04:05 PM
The last time I remember someone being this cagey about an injured player's return...
http://www.chiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/110114-PriestHolmes-Image6.jpg
Probably the last time one of your posts was worth reading as well
sedated
08-08-2016, 04:56 PM
But wait, the coaching staff assured us he was day-to-day.
New World Order
08-08-2016, 07:29 PM
wtf, everyone thinks he wont be back until week 5??
Don't think he comes back this season
pugsnotdrugs19
08-08-2016, 09:18 PM
He's coming back this year. It might be week 4, 8 or even 12, but he will be there. I don't question that a bit.
Again, just like Dorsey said per the doctors, they've been reassured he will play this year. These comments from this week I believe are purely an attempt to temper expectations, that way when they go the smart route and don't rush him back in the first couple of games, they can say that they never made any promises.
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