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jjchieffan
08-08-2016, 05:22 PM
This is how it looks to me.


QB: Smith, Foles, Bray Phantom Injury to Hogan IR
WR: Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Hill, Streater, Robinson
RB: Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB: Sherman
TE: Kelce, Harris, O;Shags, Parker
OL: Fisher, Ehinger, Morse LDT, Schartz, Fulton, Reid, Pughsley

DL: Poe, Howard, Bailey, Rochez, Jones, Williams
LB: DJ, March, Hali, Ford, Wilson, Alexander, Moses, Zombo, Houston to PUP
S: Berry, Parker, Murray, Sorensen, Brown
CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, Cooper

P: MVP
K: Santos
LS: Winchester

O.city
08-08-2016, 05:26 PM
I bet williams sticks in the dl and they keep 6, Cooper and Fleming are both gone, brown stays at safety

Dante84
08-08-2016, 05:27 PM
I don't see how that tall ass BYU WR makes it, but damn, that's a fun highlight vid. Wish we had room.

The Franchise
08-08-2016, 05:29 PM
QB: Smith, Foles, Bray
RB: Charles, West, Ware
FB: Sherman
TE: Kelce, Harris, O'Shaughnessy, Ross
WR: Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Hill, Streater, Robinson
OL: Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schwartz, Fulton, Reid, Pughsley

DL: Poe, Howard, Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches, Williams
OLB: Houston (PUP), Hali, Ford, Zombo, Nicholas
ILB: DJ, Wilson, March, Alexander, Smith
CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, White
S: Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Murray, Brown

P: Colquitt
K: Santos
LS: Winchester

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-08-2016, 05:42 PM
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thabear04
08-08-2016, 06:19 PM
This is how it looks to me.


QB: Smith, Foles, Bray Phantom Injury to Hogan IR
WR: Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Hill, Streater, Robinson
RB: Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB: Sherman
TE: Kelce, Harris, O;Shags, Parker
OL: Fisher, Ehinger, Morse LDT, Schartz, Fulton, Reid, Pughsley

DL: Poe, Howard, Bailey, Rochez, Jones,
LB: DJ, March, Hali, Ford, Mauga, Wilson, Alexander, Houston to PUP
S: Berry, Parker, Murray, Sorensen, Flemming
CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, Cooper

P: MVP
K: Santos
LS: Winchester
KR: Davis

For TE Parker hasn't really done anything from camp that I heard from so replace him with Ross.

jjchieffan
08-08-2016, 07:06 PM
For TE Parker hasn't really done anything from camp that I heard from so replace him with Ross.

I was thinking about that. You're probably right.

DaneMcCloud
08-08-2016, 07:20 PM
I can't see a scenario in which they keep 5 running backs or 4 TE's.

And with the lack of pass rushers, keeping Mauga over the young guys doesn't make any sense, so Nicolas, depending on his preseason performance, will get the nod. If not, it'll be Moses/Massaqoui or Mulumba along with Zombo.

Nick Williams, too. They're not going into the season with only 5 DL.

And Brown certainly gets the nod over Fleming.

Chief Roundup
08-08-2016, 07:40 PM
http://www.chiefs.com/team/depth-chart.html

First unofficial Depth Chart released today.

DaneMcCloud
08-08-2016, 07:48 PM
http://www.chiefs.com/team/depth-chart.html

First unofficial Depth Chart released today.

Q

That was yesterday and it was created by the PR Staff, not the coaching staff.

HemiEd
08-08-2016, 07:55 PM
http://www.chiefs.com/team/depth-chart.html

First unofficial Depth Chart released today.

Maybe I am doing something wrong but my quick count was 87 players. It made Dick Vermeil smile.

mcaj22
08-08-2016, 08:07 PM
OP your final 53 has two outside linebackers and 750 tight ends and 945 running backs

Mr. Laz
08-08-2016, 08:11 PM
I thinking about the people who don't make it.

DaT
Knile Davis
Marcus Cooper
Frankie Hammond

If guys like these not making it bodes well for our team imo.

Josh Mauga not making it would be another guy.

Meatloaf
08-08-2016, 08:13 PM
With Houston's return date in question and with Dee Ford's entire game in question, I'm thinking we're going to be in the market to pick up a veteran OLB. Possibly a cut or maybe even a trade. I just can't see us relying on Dee Ford to shore up the Houston's OLB position for very long. Heck, if Ford was a 4th round pick, he'd probably get cut. I just don't see it in this guy. OLBs who shy from contact in the run game don't get me too excited. Definitely gotta shore up that position.

jjchieffan
08-08-2016, 08:24 PM
I have listened to input from many of you and have made a few adjustments that I agree with. I didn't realize that I had forgotten to include any backups at OLB. I fixed that. I honestly don't know a lot about Brown, but I hate Fleming, so if some of you think Brown can take his spot, I'm all for it. I left my TE count alone and dropped Davis as KR. I still think that he has a good chance to make the roster, but I would rather see him go than let one of the TE go. They all have too much promise.

Rain Man
08-08-2016, 08:27 PM
Here's the full roster, with my predictions highlighted.

25 Charles, Jamaal RB 5-11 199 29 9 Texas
32 Ware, Spencer RB 5-10 229 24 3 LSU
35 West, Charcandrick RB 5-10 205 25 3 Abilene Christian
24 Reaves, Darrin RB 5-10 215 23 2 Alabama-Birmingham
34 Davis, Knile RB 5-10 227 24 4 Arkansas

42 Sherman, Anthony FB 5-10 242 27 6 Connecticut
40 Millard, Trey FB 6-2 247 25 2 Oklahoma

11 Smith, Alex QB 6-4 217 32 12 Utah
4 Foles, Nick QB 6-6 243 27 4 Arizona
9 Bray, Tyler QB 6-6 215 24 4 Tennessee
8 Hogan, Kevin QB 6-3 218 R Stanford
7 Murray, Aaron QB 6-1 207 25 3 Georgia

19 Maclin, Jeremy WR 6-0 198 28 8 Missouri
81 Hill, Tyreek WR 5-10 185 R West Alabama
17 Conley, Chris WR 6-3 205 23 2 Georgia
10 Streater, Rod WR 6-2 195 28 3 Temple
12 Wilson, Albert WR 5-9 200 24 3 Georgia State
13 Thomas, De'Anthony WR 5-8 176 23 3 Oregon
1 Brown, Da'Ron WR 6-0 199 24 1 Northern Illinois
85 Hammond, Frankie WR 6-1 184 26 3 Florida
15 Williams, Mike WR 6-2 212 6 Syracuse
6 Jones, Seantavius WR 6-3 200 23 1 Valdosta State
83 Mathews, Mitch WR 6-5 222 R Brigham Young
89 Moore, Kashif WR 5-9 180 27 1 Connecticut
14 Robinson, Demarcus WR 6-1 203 R Florida

87 Kelce, Travis TE 6-5 260 26 4 Cincinnati
80 O'Shaughnessy, James TE 6-4 245 24 2 Illinois State
84 Harris, Demetrius TE 6-7 230 25 3 Wis.-Milwaukee
82 Parker, Brian TE 6-4 265 24 2 Albany
88 Travis, Ross TE 6-7 235 23 1 Penn State

72 Fisher, Eric OL 6-7 315 25 4 Central Michigan
61 Morse, Mitch OL 6-6 305 24 2 Missouri
71 Schwartz, Mitchell OL 6-5 320 27 5 California
76 Duvernay-Tardif, Laurent OL 6-5 321 25 3 McGill (Canada)
73 Fulton, Zach OL 6-5 316 24 3 Tennessee
79 Ehinger, Parker OL 6-6 310 R Cincinnati
75 Reid, Jah OL 6-7 325 28 6 Central Florida
60 Pughsley, Jarrod OL 6-4 310 25 1 Akron
62 Feigt, Curtis OT 6-6 310 26 2 West Virginia
65 Mayweather, Garrick OL 6-2 319 R Fordham
64 Munyer, Daniel OL 6-1 305 24 1 Colorado
77 Devey, Jordan OL 6-6 320 28 2 Memphis
69 Fragel, Reid OL 6-8 308 25 1 Ohio State
68 Nowak, Drew OL 6-3 292 26 3 Western Michigan
74 Sterup, Zach OL 6-9 318 R Nebraska

5 Santos, Cairo K 5-8 160 24 3 Tulane
2 Colquitt, Dustin P 6-3 210 34 12 Tennessee
41 Winchester, James SP 6-3 240 27 2 Oklahoma

38 Parker, Ron DB 6-0 206 28 6 Newberry
27 Brown, Stevie FS 5-11 215 29 5 Michigan

29 Berry, Eric SS 6-0 212 27 7 Tennessee
49 Sorensen, Daniel SS 6-2 208 26 3 Brigham Young


22 Peters, Marcus CB 6-0 197 23 2 Washington
23 Gaines, Phillip CB 6-0 193 25 3 Rice
26 Russell, KeiVarae CB 5-11 196 22 R Notre Dame
21 Murray, Eric CB 5-11 199 R Minnesota
30 Fleming, Jamell CB 5-11 206 27 5 Oklahoma
24 White, D.J. CB 5-11 193 R Georgia Tech
20 Nelson, Steven CB 5-11 194 23 R Oregon State
31 Cooper, Marcus CB 6-2 192 26 4 Rutgers
43 Davis, Akeem CB 6-1 200 26 3 Memphis
48 Jackson, Malcolm DB 5-11 180 R Charleston Southern
39 Johnson, Jeron DB 5-10 212 28 5 Boise State
47 Randolph, Shakiel DB 6-3 213 R Southern Methodist
1 Carr, Deveron DB 5-11 194 25 2 Arizona State
45 Cheek, Bryce DB 6-0 194 22 R Akron

50 Houston, Justin LB 6-3 258 27 6 Georgia
56 Johnson, Derrick LB 6-3 242 33 12 Texas
91 Hali, Tamba LB 6-3 275 32 11 Penn State
59 March, Justin LB 6-0 222 23 2 Akron
55 Ford, Dee LB 6-2 252 25 3 Auburn
53 Wilson, Ramik LB 6-2 237 23 2 Georgia
57 Alexander, D.J. LB 6-2 233 24 2 Oregon State
90 Mauga, Josh LB 6-1 245 29 7 Nevada
51 Zombo, Frank LB 6-3 254 29 7 Central Michigan
52 Nicolas, Dadi LB 6-3 235 R Virginia Tech
44 Adams, Tyrell LB 6-2 228 24 1 West Georgia
40 Mulumba, Andy LB 6-3 260 26 3 Eastern Michigan
46 Massaquoi, Jonathan LB 6-2 264 28 4 Troy
54 Moses, Dezman LB 6-2 249 27 5 Tulane
62 Smith, Terrance LB 6-2 235 23 R Florida State


92 Poe, Dontari DL 6-3 346 25 5 Memphis
95 Jones, Chris DL 6-6 308 22 R Mississippi State
97 Bailey, Allen DL 6-3 288 27 6 Miami (Fla.)
96 Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 301 27 5 Florida
99 Nunez-Roches, Rakeem DL 6-2 307 23 2 Southern Mississippi
98 Williams, Nick DL 6-4 309 26 3 Samford
93 King, David DL 6-4 281 26 2 Oklahoma
94 Staten, Jimmy DL 6-3 311 25 1 Middle Tennessee State
66 Davis, Niko DE 6-5 285 26 1 Liberty

Deberg_1990
08-08-2016, 09:13 PM
I thinking about the people who don't make it.

DaT
Knile Davis
Marcus Cooper
Frankie Hammond

If guys like these not making it bodes well for our team imo.

Josh Mauga not making it would be another guy.

There's going to be a few guys cut who other teams will pick up. Dorsey has built a very deep roster.

pugsnotdrugs19
08-08-2016, 09:26 PM
QB: Smith, Foles, Murray (Hogan to IR somehow)
RB: Charles, West, Ware, Davis
FB: Sherman
TE: Kelce, Harris, O'Shags (R. Travis to PS)
WR: Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Hill, Streater, Robinson
OL: Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schwartz, Fulton, Reid, Pughsley
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DL: Poe, Howard, Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches, Williams
OLB: Houston (PUP, back week 7), Hali, Ford, Zombo, Nicholas
ILB: DJ, Mauga, Wilson, March, Alexander
CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, White
S: Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Murray, Brown

P: Colquitt
K: Santos
LS: Winchester

DaneMcCloud
08-08-2016, 09:40 PM
I'm predicting that Schartz will be least favorite of the laundry staff

In58men
08-08-2016, 09:51 PM
Did you just call him O'Shaggs? SMH

pugsnotdrugs19
08-08-2016, 10:00 PM
Did you just call him O'Shaggs? SMH

Many do....

mcaj22
08-08-2016, 10:23 PM
he's about to be O'Cutt pretty soon because they aren't keeping 6,942 tight ends

Mojo Jojo
08-08-2016, 10:58 PM
Q

That was yesterday and it was created by the PR Staff, not the coaching staff.
Before the PR staff puts these out they are signed off by the GM and head coach

Dante84
08-09-2016, 12:12 AM
Here's the full roster, with my predictions highlighted.

25 Charles, Jamaal RB 5-11 199 29 9 Texas
32 Ware, Spencer RB 5-10 229 24 3 LSU
35 West, Charcandrick RB 5-10 205 25 3 Abilene Christian
24 Reaves, Darrin RB 5-10 215 23 2 Alabama-Birmingham
34 Davis, Knile RB 5-10 227 24 4 Arkansas

42 Sherman, Anthony FB 5-10 242 27 6 Connecticut
40 Millard, Trey FB 6-2 247 25 2 Oklahoma

11 Smith, Alex QB 6-4 217 32 12 Utah
4 Foles, Nick QB 6-6 243 27 4 Arizona
9 Bray, Tyler QB 6-6 215 24 4 Tennessee
8 Hogan, Kevin QB 6-3 218 R Stanford
7 Murray, Aaron QB 6-1 207 25 3 Georgia

19 Maclin, Jeremy WR 6-0 198 28 8 Missouri
81 Hill, Tyreek WR 5-10 185 R West Alabama
17 Conley, Chris WR 6-3 205 23 2 Georgia
10 Streater, Rod WR 6-2 195 28 3 Temple
12 Wilson, Albert WR 5-9 200 24 3 Georgia State
13 Thomas, De'Anthony WR 5-8 176 23 3 Oregon
1 Brown, Da'Ron WR 6-0 199 24 1 Northern Illinois
85 Hammond, Frankie WR 6-1 184 26 3 Florida
15 Williams, Mike WR 6-2 212 6 Syracuse
6 Jones, Seantavius WR 6-3 200 23 1 Valdosta State
83 Mathews, Mitch WR 6-5 222 R Brigham Young
89 Moore, Kashif WR 5-9 180 27 1 Connecticut
14 Robinson, Demarcus WR 6-1 203 R Florida

87 Kelce, Travis TE 6-5 260 26 4 Cincinnati
80 O'Shaughnessy, James TE 6-4 245 24 2 Illinois State
84 Harris, Demetrius TE 6-7 230 25 3 Wis.-Milwaukee
82 Parker, Brian TE 6-4 265 24 2 Albany
88 Travis, Ross TE 6-7 235 23 1 Penn State

72 Fisher, Eric OL 6-7 315 25 4 Central Michigan
61 Morse, Mitch OL 6-6 305 24 2 Missouri
71 Schwartz, Mitchell OL 6-5 320 27 5 California
76 Duvernay-Tardif, Laurent OL 6-5 321 25 3 McGill (Canada)
73 Fulton, Zach OL 6-5 316 24 3 Tennessee
79 Ehinger, Parker OL 6-6 310 R Cincinnati
75 Reid, Jah OL 6-7 325 28 6 Central Florida
60 Pughsley, Jarrod OL 6-4 310 25 1 Akron
62 Feigt, Curtis OT 6-6 310 26 2 West Virginia
65 Mayweather, Garrick OL 6-2 319 R Fordham
64 Munyer, Daniel OL 6-1 305 24 1 Colorado
77 Devey, Jordan OL 6-6 320 28 2 Memphis
69 Fragel, Reid OL 6-8 308 25 1 Ohio State
68 Nowak, Drew OL 6-3 292 26 3 Western Michigan
74 Sterup, Zach OL 6-9 318 R Nebraska

5 Santos, Cairo K 5-8 160 24 3 Tulane
2 Colquitt, Dustin P 6-3 210 34 12 Tennessee
41 Winchester, James SP 6-3 240 27 2 Oklahoma

38 Parker, Ron DB 6-0 206 28 6 Newberry
27 Brown, Stevie FS 5-11 215 29 5 Michigan

29 Berry, Eric SS 6-0 212 27 7 Tennessee
49 Sorensen, Daniel SS 6-2 208 26 3 Brigham Young


22 Peters, Marcus CB 6-0 197 23 2 Washington
23 Gaines, Phillip CB 6-0 193 25 3 Rice
26 Russell, KeiVarae CB 5-11 196 22 R Notre Dame
21 Murray, Eric CB 5-11 199 R Minnesota
30 Fleming, Jamell CB 5-11 206 27 5 Oklahoma
24 White, D.J. CB 5-11 193 R Georgia Tech
20 Nelson, Steven CB 5-11 194 23 R Oregon State
31 Cooper, Marcus CB 6-2 192 26 4 Rutgers
43 Davis, Akeem CB 6-1 200 26 3 Memphis
48 Jackson, Malcolm DB 5-11 180 R Charleston Southern
39 Johnson, Jeron DB 5-10 212 28 5 Boise State
47 Randolph, Shakiel DB 6-3 213 R Southern Methodist
1 Carr, Deveron DB 5-11 194 25 2 Arizona State
45 Cheek, Bryce DB 6-0 194 22 R Akron

50 Houston, Justin LB 6-3 258 27 6 Georgia
56 Johnson, Derrick LB 6-3 242 33 12 Texas
91 Hali, Tamba LB 6-3 275 32 11 Penn State
59 March, Justin LB 6-0 222 23 2 Akron
55 Ford, Dee LB 6-2 252 25 3 Auburn
53 Wilson, Ramik LB 6-2 237 23 2 Georgia
57 Alexander, D.J. LB 6-2 233 24 2 Oregon State
90 Mauga, Josh LB 6-1 245 29 7 Nevada
51 Zombo, Frank LB 6-3 254 29 7 Central Michigan
52 Nicolas, Dadi LB 6-3 235 R Virginia Tech
44 Adams, Tyrell LB 6-2 228 24 1 West Georgia
40 Mulumba, Andy LB 6-3 260 26 3 Eastern Michigan
46 Massaquoi, Jonathan LB 6-2 264 28 4 Troy
54 Moses, Dezman LB 6-2 249 27 5 Tulane
62 Smith, Terrance LB 6-2 235 23 R Florida State


92 Poe, Dontari DL 6-3 346 25 5 Memphis
95 Jones, Chris DL 6-6 308 22 R Mississippi State
97 Bailey, Allen DL 6-3 288 27 6 Miami (Fla.)
96 Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 301 27 5 Florida
99 Nunez-Roches, Rakeem DL 6-2 307 23 2 Southern Mississippi
98 Williams, Nick DL 6-4 309 26 3 Samford
93 King, David DL 6-4 281 26 2 Oklahoma
94 Staten, Jimmy DL 6-3 311 25 1 Middle Tennessee State
66 Davis, Niko DE 6-5 285 26 1 Liberty

You don't have our 4th round draft pick making the team? I don't see anyway we cut Robinson. He's the 6th WR.

Direckshun
08-09-2016, 12:23 AM
QB: Smith, Bray, Foles
RB: Ware, West, Reaves (Charles on PUP)
TE: Sherman

WR: Maclin, Wilson, Hill, Conley, Streater, Robinson
TE: Kelce, Harris, Travis (note: I would keep O;Shaughnessy over Harris, but this thread is a projection thread, not preference)

LT: Fisher, Schwartz
LG: Ehringer, Fulton
C: Morse, Fulton
RG: Duvarney-Tardif, Munyer
RT: Schwartz, Reid, Pughsley

DE: Howard, Williams
DT: Poe, Howard, Jones
DE: Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches

OLB: Hali, Ford
ILB: Mauga, Wilson
ILB: Johnson, March, Alexander
OLB: Zombo, Moses (Houston on PUP)

CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, White
S: Berry, Parker, Sorensen, Brown, Murray

K: Santos
P: Colquitt
LS: Winchester

That's 53 players, plus 2 on PUP.

When Charles and Houston return, I probably boot Streater and Moses, respectively.

thabear04
08-09-2016, 12:30 AM
QB: Smith, Bray, Foles
RB: Ware, West, Reaves (Charles on PUP)
TE: Sherman

WR: Maclin, Wilson, Hill, Conley, Streater, Robinson
TE: Kelce, Harris, Travis (note: I would keep O;Shaughnessy over Harris, but this thread is a projection thread, not preference)

LT: Fisher, Schwartz
LG: Ehringer, Fulton
C: Morse, Fulton
RG: Duvarney-Tardif, Munyer
RT: Schwartz, Reid, Pughsley

DE: Howard, Williams
DT: Poe, Howard, Jones
DE: Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches

OLB: Hali, Ford
ILB: Mauga, Wilson
ILB: Johnson, March, Alexander
OLB: Zombo, Moses (Houston on PUP)

CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, White
S: Berry, Parker, Sorensen, Brown, Murray

K: Santos
P: Colquitt
LS: Winchester

That's 53 players, plus 2 on PUP.

When Charles and Houston return, I probably boot Streater and Moses, respectively.

Can you have two guys come back from pup I thought it was only one.

Direckshun
08-09-2016, 12:53 AM
Can you have two guys come back from pup I thought it was only one.

Huh. I guess I don't know.

Chief Roundup
08-09-2016, 05:44 AM
Q

That was yesterday and it was created by the PR Staff, not the coaching staff.

Q....Where was it posted? Of it was in the mega thread hard to imagine how someone might miss that. :rolleyes:
All you do is bitch about anything others post.

ct
08-09-2016, 09:56 AM
QB Smith, Foles, Bray (Hogan the mystery bug to PS)
RB Charles, West, Ware
FB Sherman
WR Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Streater, Hill, Robinson
TE Kelce, Harris, Travis, O'Shags
OT Fisher, Schwartz, Reid
OG Ehinger, LDT, Pughsley
C Morse, Fulton

DL Poe, Bailey, Howard, Jones, Nunez-Rochez, Williams
OLB Hali, Ford, Zombo, Moses, Nicolas (Houston PUP)
ILB DJ, March, Wilson, Alexander
CB Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, White
S Berry, Parker, Murray, Sorenson, Fleming

K Santos
P Colquitt
LS Winchester

Cuts (or trades?) - DAT, Mauga, Knile Davis, Mike Williams, Aaron Murray, Cooper,

DaneMcCloud
08-09-2016, 10:04 AM
Before the PR staff puts these out they are signed off by the GM and head coach

Interesting. I wonder why NFL reporters (including Terez Paylor) didn't include that in their coverage?

thabear04
08-09-2016, 10:34 AM
Huh. I guess I don't know.

I could be wrong.

Rain Man
08-09-2016, 10:51 AM
You don't have our 4th round draft pick making the team? I don't see anyway we cut Robinson. He's the 6th WR.

Oh, for some reason I was thinking he was a 7th and I figured he'd go to the practice squad. In that case he'll probably knock Wilson off the roster? That's a fast fall.

It seems like the team has a lot of depth this year.

jjchieffan
08-09-2016, 10:57 AM
Oh, for some reason I was thinking he was a 7th and I figured he'd go to the practice squad. In that case he'll probably knock Wilson off the roster? That's a fast fall.

It seems like the team has a lot of depth this year.

I don't think that he bumps Wilson at all You only list 5 WR, and we probably keep 6. I think the cut comes on the other side of the ball. I doubt that we keep 7 CB, so bye bye Fleming.

Rain Man
08-09-2016, 11:05 AM
I don't think that he bumps Wilson at all You only list 5 WR, and we probably keep 6. I think the cut comes on the other side of the ball. I doubt that we keep 7 CB, so bye bye Fleming.


It's going to be a tough call. Fleming is pretty well regarded on special teams, isn't he?

It seems like there are half a dozen veterans who are really on the bubble this year, and that's a good thing.

O.city
08-09-2016, 11:06 AM
Thats true Rainman, I forgot about that in my cutting of Fleming. He is a good special team guy.

kccrow
08-09-2016, 11:52 AM
Here's my stab at it...

QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Tyler Bray
RB: Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware
FB: Anthony Sherman
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Albert Wilson, Chris Conley, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Demarcus Robinson
TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, James O'Shaughnessy
OL: Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton, Jarrod Pughsley

DL: Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Nick Williams
OLB: Justin Houston*, Dee Ford, Dezman Moses*, Tamba Hali, Frank Zombo, Jonathan Massaquoi
ILB: Derrick Johnson, Josh Mauga, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander
CB: Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, KeiVarae Russell, D.J. White
DS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray, Ron Parker, Stevie Brown

*Assume Houston on PUP, Moses on squad until he returns.

ST: Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester, Cairo Santos

PS: Kevin Hogan, Zach Sterup, Daniel Munyer, Garrick Mayweather, Mitch Mathews, Ross Travis, Jimmy Staten, Dadi Nicolas, Terrance Smith, Bryce Cheek

Easy 6
08-09-2016, 12:09 PM
You don't have our 4th round draft pick making the team? I don't see anyway we cut Robinson. He's the 6th WR.

Agreed, tons of upside there and he has been flashing pretty hard in camp... he makes the cut

Buns
08-09-2016, 12:16 PM
Here's my stab at it...

QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Tyler Bray
RB: Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware
FB: Anthony Sherman
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Albert Wilson, Chris Conley, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Demarcus Robinson
TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, James O'Shaughnessy
OL: Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton, Jarrod Pughsley

DL: Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Nick Williams
OLB: Justin Houston*, Dee Ford, Dezman Moses*, Tamba Hali, Frank Zombo, Jonathan Massaquoi
ILB: Derrick Johnson, Josh Mauga, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander
CB: Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, KeiVarae Russell, D.J. White
DS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray, Ron Parker, Stevie Brown

*Assume Houston on PUP, Moses on squad until he returns.

ST: Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester, Cairo Santos

PS: Kevin Hogan, Zach Sterup, Daniel Munyer, Garrick Mayweather, Mitch Mathews, Ross Travis, Jimmy Staten, Dadi Nicolas, Terrance Smith, Bryce Cheek

1st roster I've seen with Jonathan Massaquoi making the team. What is his deal? Haven't read his name once...

kccrow
08-09-2016, 12:25 PM
1st roster I've seen with Jonathan Massaquoi making the team. What is his deal? Haven't read his name once...

Not sure. Mixed bag of shit with him, Moses, and Mulumba IMO. I just picked one. He has NFL experience/results as a situational guy in Atlanta, but last year was a huge WTF not making Tennessee's roster.

ct
08-09-2016, 12:27 PM
Not sure. Mixed bag of shit with him, Moses, and Mulumba IMO. I just picked one. He has NFL experience/results as a situational guy in Atlanta, but last year was a huge WTF not making Tennessee's roster.

i guessed dadi nicolas to make the squad until houston is activated

saphojunkie
08-09-2016, 12:37 PM
QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Tyler Bray
RB: Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware
FB: Anthony Sherman
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Albert Wilson, Chris Conley, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Demarcus Robinson
TE: Travis Kelce, James O'Shaughnessy, Ross Travis
OL: Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton, Jarrod Pughsley

DL: Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Nick Williams
OLB: Dee Ford, Tamba Hali, Frank Zombo, Jonathan Massaquoi, Dezmon Moses
ILB: Derrick Johnson, Josh Mauga, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander
CB: Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, KeiVarae Russell, D.J. White
DS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray, Ron Parker, Stevie Brown

ST: Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester, Cairo Santos

Justin Houston: IR designated to return

PS: Kevin Hogan, Zach Sterup, Daniel Munyer, Garrick Mayweather, Mitch Mathews, Brian Parker, Jimmy Staten, Dadi Nicolas, Terrance Smith, Bryce Cheek

RealSNR
08-09-2016, 12:37 PM
Fleming is making the team, guys. You're letting last year's shit influence your perception too much. He's been doing okay in training camp and can play special teams. Will old fart Stevie Brown be playing special teams?

kccrow
08-09-2016, 12:48 PM
Fleming is making the team, guys. You're letting last year's shit influence your perception too much. He's been doing okay in training camp and can play special teams. Will old fart Stevie Brown be playing special teams?

Did Husain Abdullah play special teams?

Sometimes the old farts do what they have to do to get a paycheck.

I also think youngster DJ White is a guy that makes the 53 based on ST.

DaneMcCloud
08-09-2016, 03:16 PM
As of today (subject to change):

QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Kevin Hogan
RB: Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware, Darren Reaves (Charles on PUP)
FB: Anthony Sherman
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Chris Conley, Albert Wilson, Demarcus Robinson
TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, James O'Shaughnessy, Ross Travis
OL: Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton, Jarrod Pughsley

DL: Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Nick Williams
OLB: Tamba Hali, Dee Ford, Frank Zombo, Dezman Moses, Dadi Nicolas (Houston on PUP)
ILB: Derrick Johnson, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander
CB: Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, KeiVarae Russell, D.J. White
DS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray, Ron Parker, Stevie Brown

ST: Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester, Cairo Santos

jjchieffan
08-09-2016, 03:23 PM
Dane, that is the first roster that I've seen with Hogan making it over Bray. Bray has had a good camp. You really think he doesn't make the team and they find a way to stash Hogan on IR like they have been doing with Bray? And I know that Charles isn't in camp, but why do you think that he goes on PUP? Everything I've read indicates he will be ready to go.

DaneMcCloud
08-09-2016, 04:08 PM
Dane, that is the first roster that I've seen with Hogan making it over Bray. Bray has had a good camp.

I'm not reading anything that's clearly stating that Bray is having a good camp. He's had some nice completions but he's also thrown at least 2 INT's in every practice session.

Andy Reid doesn't like turnovers.

You really think he doesn't make the team and they find a way to stash Hogan on IR like they have been doing with Bray?

From my perspective, and I've said this since Training Camp began, they're allowing Bray to play himself into or out of a roster spot. This is year four for him and it's probably time to shit or get off the pot.

NFL teams can face serious fines for "stashing" healthy players on IR and unless Hogan is legitimately injured, (as Bray has been with injuries and a torn ACL), I don't think they risk putting him on waivers. There seems to be a general consensus among the reporters covering the Chiefs that Hogan has ideal size, a plus arm, nice touch and accuracy, along with great knowledge of the offense. It's too soon to predict if he'll become a starter but he certainly has all of the qualities necessary for a backup position.


And I know that Charles isn't in camp, but why do you think that he goes on PUP? Everything I've read indicates he will be ready to go.

Charles is in camp but like Houston and Hali, he's not participating. He's 29 years old and about 10 months into ACL rehab. It's been pointed out that the rehab process can take 6-12 months and if it's truly 12 months for Charles, that puts him on the PUP timeline and available after the Bye Week.

Unlike the OLB position, the Chiefs don't have better than average players like West and Ware (and possibly, Reaves), so I see no reason to rush him back to the field.

jjchieffan
08-09-2016, 04:40 PM
That all makes sense. You may be absolutely right on all counts. Of course, preseason play could change everything. It's still early in the process. We'll see how it all shakes out in the coming weeks.

DaneMcCloud
08-09-2016, 05:13 PM
That all makes sense. You may be absolutely right on all counts. Of course, preseason play could change everything. It's still early in the process. We'll see how it all shakes out in the coming weeks.

Yeah, we'll see. I'm excited to see how Conley, Hill, Robertson and Ross Travis react to getting hit.

Do they get right up, as if nothing happened, or do they let it affect their game?

Hill and Ross are the biggest question marks, IMO, at this time.

jjchieffan
08-09-2016, 05:22 PM
Same here. Saturday can't get here soon enough. I am dying to see these guys in action.

Meatloaf
08-09-2016, 05:27 PM
Yeah, we'll see. I'm excited to see how Conley, Hill, Robertson and Ross Travis react to getting hit.

Do they get right up, as if nothing happened, or do they let it affect their game?

Hill and Ross are the biggest question marks, IMO, at this time.

As I recall, Conley took a few good shots last year. So I don't think he's shy about catching the ball and taking a hit. Not sure about Hill, Robertson or Travis. Nonetheless, there's a lot to be excited about with some of these guys!

Meatloaf
08-09-2016, 05:28 PM
Same here. Saturday can't get here soon enough. I am dying to see these guys in action.

Ditto this. Lots of interesting battles going on in camp this year. Gonna be fun!

Direckshun
08-09-2016, 10:41 PM
Here's my stab at it...

QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Tyler Bray
RB: Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware
FB: Anthony Sherman
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Albert Wilson, Chris Conley, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Demarcus Robinson
TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, James O'Shaughnessy
OL: Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton, Jarrod Pughsley

DL: Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Nick Williams
OLB: Justin Houston*, Dee Ford, Dezman Moses*, Tamba Hali, Frank Zombo, Jonathan Massaquoi
ILB: Derrick Johnson, Josh Mauga, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander
CB: Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, KeiVarae Russell, D.J. White
DS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray, Ron Parker, Stevie Brown

*Assume Houston on PUP, Moses on squad until he returns.

ST: Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester, Cairo Santos

PS: Kevin Hogan, Zach Sterup, Daniel Munyer, Garrick Mayweather, Mitch Mathews, Ross Travis, Jimmy Staten, Dadi Nicolas, Terrance Smith, Bryce Cheek

It's a good try, but this team is going to have at least 9 OL. Most likely 10.

DaneMcCloud
08-09-2016, 10:42 PM
It's a good try, but this team is going to have at least 9 OL. Most likely 10.

LMAO

wut

milkman
08-10-2016, 07:16 AM
It's a good try, but this team is going to have at least 9 OL. Most likely 10.

Put down the pipe.

RunKC
08-10-2016, 07:51 AM
Last year we had 10 LB's. We only need 9 IMO.

OLB-Tamba, Ford, Zombo, Moses, Nicolas
Houston PUP-when he returns put Nicolas on the IR with a nail splint
ILB-DJ, March, Wilson, other DJ

We only need 4 ILB's instead of 5. Use that extra spot to carry 4 TE's.

RealSNR
08-10-2016, 10:00 AM
It's a good try, but this team is going to have at least 9 OL. Most likely 10.

Fisher
Ehinger
Morse
LDT
Schwartz
Reid
Fulton
Pughsley(?)
...Sterup...?

Pughsley right now would be the 8th. Sterup is a big dude, but I haven't heard if he's been impressing at camp or not.

Who's the 9th?

DaneMcCloud
08-10-2016, 10:06 AM
Fisher
Ehinger
Morse
LDT
Schwartz
Reid
Fulton
Pughsley(?)
...Sterup...?

Pughsley right now would be the 8th. Sterup is a big dude, but I haven't heard if he's been impressing at camp or not.

Who's the 9th?

Apparently, they like Sterup but he's raw. At 6'8, he's having some trouble with leverage and staying low.

He sounds more like a PS guy rather than the 53.

jjchieffan
08-11-2016, 09:46 PM
It's a good try, but this team is going to have at least 9 OL. Most likely 10.

How many did we carry last year? Seems like it's usually 8 isn't it? 10 seems high to me. Also, to those saying no way to 4 RB or 4 TE, there are always 7 game day inactives. That 4th man would likely be an inactive anyway, so why not keep the talent?

Mr. Laz
08-11-2016, 09:58 PM
It's a good try, but this team is going to have at least 9 OL. Most likely 10.

I don't know about that.

Seems like they run light on Oline and heavier on Safety to me.

chiefscafan
08-12-2016, 08:54 AM
Well I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in a pass rushing LB when he's cut. That is if we aren't getting Houston before six games.

jjchieffan
08-12-2016, 08:57 AM
Who do you expect to get cut that would be any better than what we already have?

RealSNR
08-12-2016, 12:15 PM
Here's Nick Jacobs' prediction.

http://www.chiefsdigest.com/initial-prediction-chiefs-53-man-roster-heading-first-preseason-game/

These predictions are based on observations at three rookie minicamp, ten organized team practice activity days (OTA), three mandatory minicamp, and 14 training camp practices. Here is a snapshot at the 53-man roster projection.

Quarterback (3): Alex Smith, Nick Foles and Kevin Hogan
Traded or Missing the Cut: Tyler Bray and Aaron Murray

The quarterback situation will be interesting over the next month. Foles was likely brought in to provide the Chiefs with an experienced backup. Hogan shows tremendous promise in his velocity and decisiveness.

Bray has a promising arm but it appears he’s still learning to read the weak points in a defense. Murray appears to have a difficult time gauging the speed of his receiver and some passes end up behind, wide or short of the intended target.

Running Back (5): Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware, Knile Davis and Anthony Sherman
Missing the cut: Darrin Reaves and Trey Millard

Charles, West, Ware and Sherman should be locked in at their spots with their abilities to contribute in multiple ways on the team. Davis has shown an improved quickness, better pass protection and ability to smoothly catch out of the backfield. The former third-round pick is pushing for a roster spot with the Chiefs or another NFL team.

Reaves would be a nice addition to the practice squad in case of an injury. Four running backs is an odd number, but the ability to manipulate linebackers and safeties with this backfield is a huge advantage.

Wide Receiver (6): Jeremy Maclin, Rod Streater, Chris Conley, Tyreek Hill, Albert Wilson and Demarcus Robinson
Missing the cut: Da’Ron Brown, Frankie Hammond, Seantavius Jones, Mitch Mathews, Kashif Moore, De’Anthony Thomas and Mike Williams

Streater appears to have his timing down with all three quarterbacks and looks to be grasping the offense. Conley has improved in his ability to sell fakes, has crispness in his routes and waits to get his hands up right before the catch. Hill has a chance to be a very promising difference maker on special teams and an explosive target in the Chiefs offense.

Wilson has improved as well and can be a key contributor in the slot. Robinson has a knack for causing the defenses problems over the middle as a slot receiver. Thomas lacks the size and route-running ability of Hill. Williams has experienced too many drops during camp and doesn’t appear to have the same explosiveness from earlier in his career.

Tight Ends (3): Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris and Ross Travis
Missing the cut: James O’Shaughnessy and Brian Parker

The tight end position could see an addition but it likely isn’t on the roster at this time. All three tight ends projected to make the roster struggle in run blocking. They are all pass catching tight ends that can provide mismatches against safeties and linebackers.

O’Shaughnessy doesn’t appear to have the same explosiveness after his foot injury last season. Parker has experienced too many drops in camp.

Offensive Line (7): Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid and Zach Fulton
Missing the cut: Jordan Devey, Curtis Feigt, Reid Fragel, Garrick Mayweather, Daniel Munyer, Drew Nowak, Jarrod Pughsley and Zach Sterup

The Chiefs typically only dress seven offensive linemen on game day. The Chiefs could use an additional swing tackle to make it an even eight but the line is set at this time.

Defensive Line (6): Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches and Nick Williams
Missing the cut: Niko Davis, David King and Jimmy Staten

The defensive line is arguably the strength of this football team. Defensive Line Coach Britt Reid has done an impressive job with his group throughout the spring and summer. Howard looks quicker this season and has been unblockable in most drills. Jones has shown an impressive skill set as a pass rusher and extremely athletic for his size. He is stout enough to not get pushed off the ball and can play all three positions.

Nunez-Roches has improved in his strength and speed. He can be a rotational pass-rushing nightmare for opponents. Williams has shown good ability in shutting down the edge on runs and has solid pass rushing skills. King and Staten have the capability to play elsewhere on Sundays if they don’t make the Chiefs roster.

Outside Linebackers (5): Tamba Hali, Dee Ford, Frank Zombo, Andy Mulumba and Jonathan Massaquoi
Missing the cut: Dezman Moses and Dadi Nicolas
Physically unable to perform (PUP): Justin Houston

The outside linebackers look noticeable different with Houston and Hali on the field. The group visibly lacks explosiveness off the edge. Ford continues to utilize his speed rush to the outside and looks stiff in coverage.

Zombo is a run support linebacker and outstanding special teams contributor. Mulumba and Massaquoi have delivered some big hits during padded practices but need to show more in the upcoming preseason games. Moses and Nicolas are capable of making the team. This group will show its ability in the four preseason games.

Inside Linebackers (5): Derrick Johnson, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, DJ Alexander and Josh Mauga
Missing the cut: Tyrell Adams and Terrance Smith

The inside linebacker position is arguably very stacked. March continues to make plays and fill gaps extremely well. Wilson has shown good instincts and improved coverage skills. Alexander is stronger this season with better pop and bull rush. Mauga provides the team with a reliable veteran that can start in a pinch.

Cornerback (5): Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, Keivarae Russell and D.J. White
Missing the cut: Deveron Carr, Bryce Cheek and Malcolm Jackson

Peters has looked like he is picking up where he left off in camp. He sees the field well, stays in the receivers hip pocket and averages an interception a day. Gaines has seen his reps increase as they ease him back in to the second corner position coming off knee surgery. Nelson looks comfortable at outside corner and nickel. He has been aggressive and strong in his jams.

Russell has rarely been beaten during camp and has shown very good recovery speed from the times Hill has got the best of him. The former Notre Dame corner typically seems to be in the right place by the time the ball arrives. White has had some big knockdowns in pass coverage and an impressive diving interception during camp that was returned for a pick-six in team drills. The future appears to be bright with this group.

Safeties (5): Eric Berry, Ron Parker, Daniel Sorensen, Marcus Cooper and Eric Murray
Missing the cut: Stevie Brown, Akeem Davis, Jamell Fleming, Jeron Johnson and Shak Randolph

Berry’s absence has allowed Sorensen, Cooper and Murray to see more opportunities with the first team. Sorensen looks to be the enforcer on the team and can effectively help in run support like Berry or in Husain Abdullah’s old role in the box. Cooper has grown with each practice an continues to make plays with the field in front him. He is able to find and attack the football, which has lead to multiple interceptions.

Murray’s athletic ability has shown up on the field. He is able to work in at corner or safety an delivered one of the more vicious hits of camp, when he laid out Streater on a crossing route. Brown has looked serviceable on the field and could replace Cooper with a strong preseason or if Berry doesn’t report.

Specialist (3): Dustin Colquitt, Cairo Santos and James Winchester

The Chiefs have no competition for their three specialist which one can safely assume locks them into place.

Practice Squad (10): RB Darrin Reaves, WR Da’Ron Brown, WR Seantavius Jones, OT Zach Sterup, OG Garrick Mayweather, DL Jimmy Staten , OLB Dadi Nicolas, ILB Terrance Smith, CB Deveron Carr and S Shak Randolph

Reaves would be a great developmental player on the practice squad. Brown could use more seasoning in his route running. Jones has a good leaping ability, size and worth the investment. Sterup has good technique at the tackle position and could find himself on the roster at some point during the season. Mayweather has shown promising technique and base but needs some refinement in his footwork.

Staten could find himself on the active roster but the numbers push him to the practice squad. Nicolas has good athletic ability and his performance on special teams in the preseason could put him on the 53-man roster but for now this is the ideal spot for his development. Smith was caught in a numbers game at inside linebacker but the speed and ability is there to be developed. Carr and Randolph have made some noticeable interceptions and deflections during camp.

Final Breakdown

Offense: 24

Defense: 26

Special Teams: 3

—————–

Nick Jacobs is a contributing writer for ChiefsDigest.com. Use the contact page to reach him or find him on Twitter: @Jacobs71.

RealSNR
08-12-2016, 12:23 PM
Don't like carrying only 7 offensive linemen. Could just be that nobody else in that group has done shit to prove they deserve it. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Chiefs bring in a guy cut from another roster, because at the very least we need a swing tackle or somebody.

Disappointed Pughsley isn't getting more good praise out of training camp. I liked his size and potential from last year.

kccrow
08-12-2016, 01:28 PM
Interesting breakdown by Jacobs, thanks for sharing SNR. I could see almost all of that being true except for keeping 4 RBs over 8 OL. I really don't think that happens.

jjchieffan
08-12-2016, 02:01 PM
Yeah. 7 OL is crazy thin. I don't see keeping 10, like someone said yesterday, but 8 seems about right. Also, I'm not sure that we keep 10 LBers and 10 DB's. That seems a little disproportionate to me.

jjchieffan
08-21-2016, 07:44 AM
Half of the preseason games are in. Any changes to your rosters? I have a few. I am replacing Bray with Murray, Parker with Travis, and dropping O'shags in order to reluctantly give Mauga his roster spot back. I think that March and Wilson have higher upside, but they aren't ready to take his job just yet.

milkman
08-21-2016, 08:09 AM
Okay, this is where I'm at after the first 2 games.

QB:Smith, Foles, Murray
RB:Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB:Sherman
WR:Maclin, Conley, Streater, Wilson, Hill, Wiliiams, Robinson
TE:Kelce, Harris, Travis
OL:Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schwartz, Reid, Fulton, Pughsley

DL:Poe, Howard, Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches, Williams
LB:Hali, Ford, DJ, Mauga, March, Wilson, Moses, Zombo, Nicolas, Alexander
DB:Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Cooper, White, Russel, Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Murray

Specialist:Santos, Colquit, Winchestor

jjchieffan
08-21-2016, 08:14 AM
Okay, this is where I'm at after the first 2 games.

QB:Smith, Foles, Murray
RB:Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB:Sherman
WR:Maclin, Conley, Streater, Wilson, Hill, Wilson, Robinson
TE:Kelce, Harris, Travis
OL:Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schwartz, Reid, Fulton, Pughsley

DL:Poe, Howard, Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches, Williams
LB:Hali, Ford, DJ, Mauga, March, Wilson, Moses, Zombo, Nicolas, Alexander
DB:Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Cooper, White, Russel, Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Murray

Specialist:Santos, Colquit, Winchestor

I agree with that roster completely. To see it fall any difficulty at this point would surprise me.

Hoover
08-21-2016, 08:39 AM
Offense:25

QB: Smith, Foles (Signing Foles means everyone else to the PS)
WR: Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Hill, Streater, Robinson
RB: Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB: Sherman
TE: Kelce, Harris, Travis, O'Shaughnessy
OL: Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schartz, Fulton, Reid, Pughsley

DL: Poe, Howard, Bailey, Rochez, Jones, Williams
LB: Hali, Ford, DJ, Wilson, Mauga, Alexander, Moses, Zombo, (PUP: Houston)
S: Berry, Parker, Murray, Sorensen, Brown
CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, White, Russell, Cooper

Defense: 25

P: MVP
K: Santos
LS: Winchester

Special Teams:3

Chief Roundup
08-21-2016, 08:47 AM
Okay, this is where I'm at after the first 2 games.

QB:Smith, Foles, Murray
RB:Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB:Sherman
WR:Maclin, Conley, Streater, Wilson, Hill, Wilson, Robinson
TE:Kelce, Harris, Travis
OL:Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schwartz, Reid, Fulton, Pughsley

DL:Poe, Howard, Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches, Williams
LB:Hali, Ford, DJ, Mauga, March, Wilson, Moses, Zombo, Nicolas, Alexander
DB:Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Cooper, White, Russel, Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Murray

Specialist:Santos, Colquit, Winchestor


Is one of those suppose to be Williams? One Albert Wilson is bad enough.

milkman
08-21-2016, 08:54 AM
Is one of those suppose to be Williams? One Albert Wilson is bad enough.

Thanks.

Fixed.

oldman
08-21-2016, 09:09 AM
I'm pretty much with milkman, except I think we go 4 TE and 6 WRs, Robinson being the odd man out. I think Bray just injured himself out of the league. I'm just not impressed with Hogan. I'd like to see him a little more before I cut him, though. I don't think he'd be on the PS very long before someone claimed him.

milkman
08-21-2016, 09:14 AM
I'm pretty much with milkman, except I think we go 4 TE and 6 WRs, Robinson being the odd man out. I think Bray just injured himself out of the league. I'm just not impressed with Hogan. I'd like to see him a little more before I cut him, though. I don't think he'd be on the PS very long before someone claimed him.

I just don't see 4 TEs, but if it did play out that way, Williams is the odd man out, not Robinson.

TEX
08-21-2016, 09:40 AM
Offense:25

QB: Smith, Foles (Signing Foles means everyone else to the PS)
WR: Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Hill, Streater, Robinson
RB: Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB: Sherman
TE: Kelce, Harris, Travis, O'Shaughnessy
OL: Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schartz, Fulton, Reid, Pughsley

DL: Poe, Howard, Bailey, Rochez, Jones, Williams
LB: Hali, Ford, DJ, Wilson, Mauga, Alexander, Moses, Zombo, (PUP: Houston)
S: Berry, Parker, Murray, Sorensen, Brown
CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, White, Russell, Cooper

Defense: 25

P: MVP
K: Santos
LS: Winchester

Special Teams:3

Looks correct IMO also. Deal is seeing the CB's listed in one group does not instill confidence.

chiefzilla1501
08-21-2016, 09:57 AM
I'm really surprised at how many people are picking Bray and Hogan over Murray.

Hogan throws a flutter ball. He was an interesting option as a future backup but with Foles, we no longer need that.

I've just been waiting for that moment for Bray to show he's more than a big arm and I haven't seen it.

Murray has had a solid preseason throwing. Has to take better care of the ball but that's a small concern for a young pocket QB.

jjchieffan
08-21-2016, 10:11 AM
I'm really surprised at how many people are picking Bray and Hogan over Murray.

Hogan throws a flutter ball. He was an interesting option as a future backup but with Foles, we no longer need that.

I've just been waiting for that moment for Bray to show he's more than a big arm and I haven't seen it.

Murray has had a solid preseason throwing. Has to take better care of the ball but that's a small concern for a young pocket QB.

Most of the people, myself included, that had Bray instead of Murray did that before the first preseason game. I don't think that there are very many at all that still feel that way.

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-21-2016, 10:16 AM
Seriously, why in the fuck do you keep a roster spot for a long snapper ? I mean that's all he does. Keep an extra TE for that and teach him. Long snapping isn't that fucking hard to do. I do it all the time. Just seems to me you could use a player that can benefit the team moar !

TRR
08-21-2016, 10:16 AM
Thanks.

Fixed.

Williams won't make the roster. Too many drops in camp, and nothing thus far in the preseason to warrant keeping him.

Robinson had a nice special teams play last night, but he's far from a lock in my eyes. He may be able to sneak on to the practice squad as I know teams are weary of his off the field issues.

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-21-2016, 10:25 AM
Robinson will make the roster. you don't trash a rookie drafted that high

jjchieffan
08-21-2016, 10:27 AM
Seriously, why in the **** do you keep a roster spot for a long snapper ? I mean that's all he does. Keep an extra TE for that and teach him. Long snapping isn't that ****ing hard to do. I do it all the time. Just seems to me you could use a player that can benefit the team moar !

I don't like it either, but apparently it's harder than it looks. I've seen our staffs try to free up the spot, but in the end, that LS is always on the roster. I remember how we lucked into Jared Allen. He was drafted because he could play linebacker and long snapper and free up that spot. Then he turned out to be a great pass rusher and they didn't want to risk his hand getting hurt long snapping. I don't think he ever snapped a single game. Speaking of that, when was the last time a long snapper got hurt. Is that really a concern?

Chief Roundup
08-21-2016, 11:11 AM
Seriously, why in the **** do you keep a roster spot for a long snapper ? I mean that's all he does. Keep an extra TE for that and teach him. Long snapping isn't that ****ing hard to do. I do it all the time. Just seems to me you could use a player that can benefit the team moar !

Because Long Snapping is an art and it is super important, otherwise the ball is sailing over the punter or kickers head or so low that the punts or field goals are getting blocked.

DaneMcCloud
08-21-2016, 11:32 AM
Okay, this is where I'm at after the first 2 games.

QB:Smith, Foles, Murray
RB:Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB:Sherman
WR:Maclin, Conley, Streater, Wilson, Hill, Wiliiams, Robinson
TE:Kelce, Harris, Travis
OL:Fisher, Ehinger, Morse, LDT, Schwartz, Reid, Fulton, Pughsley

DL:Poe, Howard, Bailey, Jones, Nunez-Roches, Williams
LB:Hali, Ford, DJ, Mauga, March, Wilson, Moses, Zombo, Nicolas, Alexander
DB:Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Cooper, White, Russel, Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Murray

Specialist:Santos, Colquit, Winchestor

I agree with that roster completely. To see it fall any difficulty at this point would surprise me.

Milk, you have 55 players on your roster

Danguardace
08-21-2016, 11:37 AM
Because Long Snapping is an art and it is super important, otherwise the ball is sailing over the punter or kickers head or so low that the punts or field goals are getting blocked.

Exactly for a whatever the league minimum salary is you make sure that shit is perfect.

Hoover
08-21-2016, 11:46 AM
There is no reason for us to keep 3 qbs on the active roster.

1. We don't have a developmental QB worthy of protecting. If we did, we wouldn't have signed Foles.
2. Hogan will make it to the PS.
3. How many effing years are we going to wait on Bray. It's over folks.
4. I like Murray, but frankly he isn't seeing the field with Foles in the fold.
5. Not having a 3rd QB allows us an extra LB, DB, TE - Which frankly will see more playing time.

Travis, Flemming, Mauga are all > Bray or Murray

Hoover
08-21-2016, 11:48 AM
There is no reason for us to keep 3 qbs on the active roster.

1. We don't have a developmental QB worthy of protecting. If we did, we wouldn't have signed Foles.
2. Hogan will make it to the PS.
3. How many effing years are we going to wait on Bray. It's over folks.
4. I like Murray, but frankly he isn't seeing the field with Foles in the fold.
5. Not having a 3rd QB allows us an extra LB, DB, TE - Which frankly will see more playing time.

Travis, Flemming, Mauga are all > Bray or Murray

Hell I'd rather have Knile Davis then a 3rd QB.

Plus Dion Lewis of the Pats is still hurt, we should swing a deal with them with one of our RBs.

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-21-2016, 12:15 PM
Because Long Snapping is an art and it is super important, otherwise the ball is sailing over the punter or kickers head or so low that the punts or field goals are getting blocked.

I think Knile Davis could do it just fine.

DaneMcCloud
08-21-2016, 12:36 PM
There is no reason for us to keep 3 qbs on the active roster.

1. We don't have a developmental QB worthy of protecting. If we did, we wouldn't have signed Foles.
2. Hogan will make it to the PS.
3. How many effing years are we going to wait on Bray. It's over folks.
4. I like Murray, but frankly he isn't seeing the field with Foles in the fold.
5. Not having a 3rd QB allows us an extra LB, DB, TE - Which frankly will see more playing time.

Travis, Flemming, Mauga are all > Bray or Murray

The problem with cutting Murray is that Foles is essentially on a one year deal. Murray has progressed each year, is cheap and the Chiefs have him until the end of 2017.

Spending $7 million on Foles next year to back up Alex Smith seems a little excessive, especially when they'll need to pay Poe and they currently only have $4 million in cap space.

Plus, as I've said before, I can't imagine an Andy Reid coached team with only 2 QB's. If something happens to Smith, scrambling to find someone off the streets that can run his offense behind Foles would be next to impossible.

And Hogan looked awful last week, so I seriously doubt they'd want to promote him from the PS. Blech.

Danguardace
08-21-2016, 12:51 PM
Is anyone else slightly underwhelmed by Albert Wilson (seemingly) retaining his #3 WR spot? Given what Reid can do with TE's available I guess #3 WR isn't as important but still not a big fan of Wilson; not particularly great before or after the catch and I would have hoped one of the new WRs would take that spot.

Or is it just me?

The Franchise
08-21-2016, 12:55 PM
Milk, you have 55 players on your roster

Cut Mike Williams and Mauga.

DaneMcCloud
08-21-2016, 01:03 PM
Cut Mike Williams and Mauga.

I've walked back on Mauga.

Neither Wilson, March or Alexander look ready to start.

kccrow
08-21-2016, 07:32 PM
Here's my update...

QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Aaron Murray
RB: Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware
FB: Anthony Sherman
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Albert Wilson, Chris Conley, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Demarcus Robinson
TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, Ross Travis
OL: Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton, Jarrod Pughsley

DL: Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Nick Williams
OLB: Justin Houston*, Dee Ford, Dezman Moses, Tamba Hali, Frank Zombo, Dadi Nicolas
ILB: Derrick Johnson, Josh Mauga, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander
CB: Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, KeiVarae Russell, D.J. White
DS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray, Ron Parker, Stevie Brown

*Assume Houston on PUP/IR.

ST: Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester, Cairo Santos

PS: QB Kevin Hogan, OT Zach Sterup, OG Garrick Mayweather, WR Da'Ron Brown, WR Mitch Mathews, RB Darrin Reaves, DL Jimmy Staten, LB Terrance Smith, CB Deveron Carr, DB Shak Randolph

The Franchise
08-21-2016, 07:44 PM
Here's my update...

QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Aaron Murray
RB: Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware
FB: Anthony Sherman
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Albert Wilson, Chris Conley, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Demarcus Robinson
TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, Ross Travis
OL: Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton, Jarrod Pughsley

DL: Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Nick Williams
OLB: Justin Houston*, Dee Ford, Dezman Moses, Tamba Hali, Frank Zombo, Dadi Nicolas
ILB: Derrick Johnson, Josh Mauga, Justin March, Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander
CB: Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, KeiVarae Russell, D.J. White
DS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray, Ron Parker, Stevie Brown

*Assume Houston on PUP/IR.

ST: Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester, Cairo Santos

PS: QB Kevin Hogan, OT Zach Sterup, OG Garrick Mayweather, WR Da'Ron Brown, WR Mitch Mathews, RB Darrin Reaves, DL Jimmy Staten, LB Terrance Smith, CB Deveron Carr, DB Shak Randolph

Cut Brown, keep Cooper.

kccrow
08-21-2016, 07:51 PM
Cut Brown, keep Cooper.

I wasn't impressed with Cooper, but I want to re-watch the game. Seemed like Cooper got beat alot again but made some decent tackles to limit huge gains. Tuesday 12:00 AM, have to record.

milkman
08-21-2016, 08:42 PM
Milk, you have 55 players on your roster

What do you want from me?
I'm too damn old to count that high.

Direckshun
08-21-2016, 09:25 PM
My best shot at this time:

Backfield: 8

QB: Smith, Foles, Murray
RB: Charles, Ware, West, Reaves
FB: Sherman

Receiving: 9

WR: Maclin, Wilson, Conley, Streater, Hill, Robinson
TE: Kelce, Harris, Travis

Offensive line: 8

LT: Fisher, Schwartz
LG: Ehringer, Fulton
C: Morse, Fulton
RG: Duvarney-Tardif, Reid
RT: Schwartz, Reid, Pughsley

Defensive line: 6

DE: Howard, Jones, Williams
NT: Poe, Howard, Jones
DE: Bailey, Nunez-Roches

Linebackers: 9

OLB: Hali, Nicholas
ILB: Mauga, Wilson
ILB: Johnson, March, Alexander
OLB: Ford, Zombo, Houston (PUP)

Secondary: 10

CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, White
S: Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Brown, Murray

Special teams: 3

K: Santos
P: Colquitt
LS: Winchester

Arg. That's 53.

So hard to cut Kevin Hogan, Knile Davis, Da'Ron Brown, Frankie Hammond, De'Anthony Thomas, James O'Shaughnessy, Daniel Munyer, David King, Dezmon Moses, Marcus Cooper, and Jamell Fleming.

That's a stupid amount of talent to cut. I bet of that talent, only Davis, Moses, and Fleming make it through waivers.

It's going to particularly suck losing King and Brown.

Oz_Chief
08-21-2016, 11:35 PM
Any chance Chiefs carry only 2 QBs? Maybe 4 TEs?

Oz_Chief
08-21-2016, 11:36 PM
There is no reason for us to keep 3 qbs on the active roster.

1. We don't have a developmental QB worthy of protecting. If we did, we wouldn't have signed Foles.
2. Hogan will make it to the PS.
3. How many effing years are we going to wait on Bray. It's over folks.
4. I like Murray, but frankly he isn't seeing the field with Foles in the fold.
5. Not having a 3rd QB allows us an extra LB, DB, TE - Which frankly will see more playing time.

Travis, Flemming, Mauga are all > Bray or Murray

Just saw this. Agreed.

chiefzilla1501
08-22-2016, 12:39 AM
Hell I'd rather have Knile Davis then a 3rd QB.

Plus Dion Lewis of the Pats is still hurt, we should swing a deal with them with one of our RBs.

Keeping only 2 QBs is crazy talk for a starting QB who loves to run and a league where almost half of starters had some significant injury last year. That's the kind of stuff that sticks you with Matt Cassel or Brandon Weeden. There's a reason backups are getting paid multi-million $ contracts.

jjchieffan
09-02-2016, 11:56 PM
This is how it looks to me.


QB: Smith, Foles, Bray Phantom Injury to Hogan IR
WR: Maclin, Conley, Wilson, Hill, Streater, Robinson
RB: Charles, West, Ware, Reaves
FB: Sherman
TE: Kelce, Harris, O;Shags, Parker
OL: Fisher, Ehinger, Morse LDT, Schartz, Fulton, Reid, Pughsley

DL: Poe, Howard, Bailey, Rochez, Jones, Williams
LB: DJ, March, Hali, Ford, Wilson, Alexander, Moses, Zombo, Houston to PUP
S: Berry, Parker, Murray, Sorensen, Brown
CB: Peters, Gaines, Nelson, Russell, Cooper

P: MVP
K: Santos
LS: Winchester

Well, so far, 2 of my picks are gone. Brown and Cooper. It looks like Cooper is being replaced by Acker. Brown replaced by White. Oh, and I expect to see Nicholas make it as well now. He will cost someone on offense a spot. Probably O'Shags, although I think they need a 4th TE in case of injury to maintain the 3 TE sets. Personally, I would rather cut Bray. Just a few hours left. We'll know soon.

Red Dawg
09-03-2016, 12:39 PM
Davis made the cut. Reaves to PS. Right decision in my book.

RealSNR
09-03-2016, 12:42 PM
My boy Terrance Smith gets chopped. Hope he makes it through to our PS. I assume he will, but you never know

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> have released ILB Terrance Smith, a source tells me. Prime PS candidate</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/772140217213915136">September 3, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DaneMcCloud
09-03-2016, 01:07 PM
S: Berry, Parker, Sorenson, Brown, Murray

Who the fuck is Brown?

Stevie Brown? He was cut weeks ago.

DaneMcCloud
09-03-2016, 01:08 PM
Davis made the cut. Reaves to PS. Right decision in my book.

I don't like it at all.

Davis runs too high, he's a fumbling machine and has no vision.

Lightrise
09-03-2016, 01:22 PM
OFFENSE
QB: Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Tyler Bray
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Frankie Hammond, Tyreek Hill, De’Anthony Thomas
LT: Eric Fisher
LG: Parker Ehinger
C: Mitch Morse, Zach Fulton
RG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
RT: Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid
TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, Ross Travis
WR: Albert Wilson, Chris Conley, Rod Streater
RB: Jamaal Charles, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware
FB:
DEFENSE
LDE: Jaye Howard, Chris Jones
NT: Dontari Poe, Rakeem Nunez-Roches
RDE: Allen Bailey, Nick Williams
LOLB: Justin Houston, Dee Ford, Dadi Nicolas
LILB: Derrick Johnson, DJ Alexander, Justin March
RILB: Ramik Wilson
ROLB: Tamba Hali, Frank Zombo, Dezman Moses
LCB: Marcus Peters, Marcus Cooper, KeiVarae Russell, Kenneth Acker
RCB: Steven Nelson, Phillip Gaines, DJ White
SS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Eric Murray
FS: Ron Parker
SPECIAL TEAMS
P: Dustin Colquitt, Cairo Santos
K: Cairo Santos, Dustin Colquitt
LS: James Winchester

Waiver pickup for LB while Houston on PUP

KChiefs1
09-03-2016, 01:40 PM
My boy Terrance Smith gets chopped. Hope he makes it through to our PS. I assume he will, but you never know



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> have released ILB Terrance Smith, a source tells me. Prime PS candidate</p>— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/772140217213915136">September 3, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



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DaneMcCloud
09-03-2016, 01:42 PM
WR: Jeremy Maclin, Frankie Hammond, Tyreek Hill, De’Anthony Thomas


You're cutting Chris Conley?

:facepalm:

jjchieffan
09-03-2016, 02:16 PM
You're cutting Chris Conley?

:facepalm:

I thought that at first too. Look again he has WR listed twice, left and right side depth basically.

Buns
09-03-2016, 02:18 PM
Dammit, Albert Wilson is going to make this team, isn't he? :#

KChiefs1
09-05-2016, 09:52 PM
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jjchieffan
09-05-2016, 09:58 PM
Interesting that Hill is listed ahead of DAT at both receiver and at punt returner. After the last PS game, I expected it to be the other way around.

NJChiefsFan
09-05-2016, 10:02 PM
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I guess Fulton has his hands full if LDT, Ehinger, and Morse go down on the same play.

jjchieffan
09-05-2016, 10:08 PM
OP your final 53 has two outside linebackers and 750 tight ends and 945 running backs

I had 4 RB and a FB and 4 TE. That's what they kept. It was Davis over Reaves and Ross over Travis, but my count was accurate.

thabear04
09-05-2016, 10:25 PM
I had 4 RB and a FB and 4 TE. That's what they kept. It was Davis over Reaves and Ross over Travis, but my count was accurate.

You had Ross over Travis Kelce?

jjchieffan
09-06-2016, 11:56 AM
You had Ross over Travis Kelce?

Oops! I meant Parker over Ross.

KChiefs1
09-06-2016, 11:05 PM
Dorsey had a nice draft.

https://youtu.be/LmHSQKZvrmc







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