View Full Version : Chiefs An extensive and complete breakdown of Alex Smiths 2015 season
BossChief
08-11-2016, 10:40 AM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/8/11/12419512/alex-smith-every-dropback-of-2015
I know it's another Chiefs site, but they deserve the clicks for this article, so I'm not going to copy and paste the article.
Simply Red
08-11-2016, 10:43 AM
just watch deep ball myth bro.
Hammock Parties
08-11-2016, 11:09 AM
i'm guessing they love alex
Bowser
08-11-2016, 11:23 AM
That was an interesting article. Seth did a great job researching it.
Chiefnj2
08-11-2016, 11:24 AM
Huge discrepancies between ESPN's stats as to length of throw and his numbers.
Halfcan
08-11-2016, 11:55 AM
The only numbers you need to look at is Alex's-Yards Per Game and Touch Downs.
Both need to be improved greatly this year.
Pitt Gorilla
08-11-2016, 12:14 PM
Are people surprised that it is more difficult to complete a deep pass?
Mile High Mania
08-11-2016, 12:29 PM
Alex ranks 19th, 18th and 15th with pass attempts each of the last 3 years and he averages a 2:1 sack to TD ratio. He makes some good plays now and then, and his turnovers are low. So, he's got that going for him.
Simply Red
08-11-2016, 12:50 PM
Alex ranks 19th, 18th and 15th with pass attempts each of the last 3 years and he averages a 2:1 sack to TD ratio. He makes some good plays now and then, and his turnovers are low. So, he's got that going for him.
Well he was good enough to beat the best QB and Defense of all time last season - in THEIR house.
Alex ranks 19th, 18th and 15th with pass attempts each of the last 3 years and he averages a 2:1 sack to TD ratio. He makes some good plays now and then, and his turnovers are low. So, he's got that going for him.
You mean the Chiefs are a running team?
I'm stunned.
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The Franchise
08-11-2016, 12:58 PM
Where's the hidden TD stat?
Pablo
08-11-2016, 01:08 PM
Where's the hidden TD stat?LMAO
TD hide and seek champion!
Mile High Mania
08-11-2016, 01:26 PM
Well he was good enough to beat the best QB and Defense of all time last season - in THEIR house.
Yes... 17 of 31 for 204, with his lone TD on an 80 yard play in the 4th. Tore 'em up, but it was a stark improvement from the 16 of 25 for 191 and 2 INTs in the loss to Denver @ KC.
Visiting defenses won both those games.
The article was fair.
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trd84
08-11-2016, 02:14 PM
the biggest problem this offense has had the last 3 seasons is the pre determined pass play calls. Where Alex only has 1 option. Its been a problem in all of our big losses. Better teams sniff those plays out. We take the ball out of Alex's hands too often on 3rd and short and redzone plays. We do a better job on 3rd down when we call traditional pass plays. Give alex multiple options to throw the ball to or let him use his legs if it breaks down.
That is what turned the season around last season getting away from those plays, but they started getting called more frequently as we approached the playoffs. And made the 1st playoff game closer than it should've been. we failed on like 3 3rd and shorts with those plays when the offense was otherwise playing very well.
Deberg_1990
08-11-2016, 02:53 PM
2016 prediction
3300 yards
23 TDs
9 INTs
3 rushing TDs
2016 prediction
3300 yards
23 TDs
9 INTs
3 rushing TDs
Seems about right. Been his average the past few years. I'd love him to break that magical 30 td year. I just don't think it's in him.
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Simply Red
08-11-2016, 02:58 PM
Yes... 17 of 31 for 204, with his lone TD on an 80 yard play in the 4th. Tore 'em up, but it was a stark improvement from the 16 of 25 for 191 and 2 INTs in the loss to Denver @ KC.
Visiting defenses won both those games.
Hey - good enough.
Deberg_1990
08-11-2016, 02:59 PM
Seems about right. Been his average the past few years. I'd love him to break that magical 30 td year. I just don't think it's in him.
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He is what he is. I Don't understand why fans think he's suddenly going to change.
Embrace it instead of being outraged
Simply Red
08-11-2016, 02:59 PM
Yes... 17 of 31 for 204, with his lone TD on an 80 yard play in the 4th. Tore 'em up, but it was a stark improvement from the 16 of 25 for 191 and 2 INTs in the loss to Denver @ KC.
Visiting defenses won both those games.
one thing we can agree - NFL is back and we're about to party!!
He is what he is. I Don't understand why fans think he's suddenly going to change.
Embrace it instead of being outraged
Agreed[emoji106]
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Nickhead
08-11-2016, 03:05 PM
personally, i see the chiefs o-line being one of the best in the league this year. this will allow alex to throw more, and run less.
gonna say he tops 4000 yrds passing (all YAC )
Pasta Little Brioni
08-11-2016, 03:51 PM
Is this the mnchiefsfan from CP??? WTF is a REALmnchiefsfan?? He's got the always hilarious in this context CP term "watching tape" covered.
It has been a while since we've had a down and dirty Alex Smith thread. :clap:
Hammock Parties
08-11-2016, 04:09 PM
Is this the mnchiefsfan from CP??? WTF is a REALmnchiefsfan?? He's got the always hilarious in this context CP term "watching tape" covered.
I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.
Pasta Little Brioni
08-11-2016, 04:22 PM
I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.
Buh gawd he's a Lil Chiefy
threebag
08-11-2016, 08:26 PM
I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.
We know autumn wind and knhomo have better takes than you do.
splatbass
08-12-2016, 12:14 AM
The only numbers you need to look at is Alex's-Yards Per Game and Touch Downs.
Both need to be improved greatly this year.
IMO, Yards Per Game doesn't mean much. A QB coming from behind a lot late in the game against prevent defenses will have a high YPG - and still lose, while a QB that is leading a lot will run the ball more and have fewer YPG - and still win.
These guys were in the top 10 in 2015 in YPG:
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Eli Manning
Blake Bortles
How did they do in the playoffs?
I'm with you on more TDs though.
|Zach|
08-12-2016, 12:31 AM
I thought this was going to be a complete breakdown of The Smiths.
Gonzo
08-12-2016, 12:41 AM
He's a very average QB which is better than anything we've had since Green.
He does not lose games with stupidity but then again, don't expect him to win games with brilliance either.
I can live with that.
Simply Red
08-12-2016, 01:00 AM
easily the best sliding QB in the game!
Simply Red
08-12-2016, 01:01 AM
I think he drives teams crazy - much in the same way Jake Plummer used to bootleg us. It's so annoying to give up yards that way.
I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.
Hmmm. So like the opposite of you? Overly harsh on the Chiefs, over effusive with praise of all other teams? That kind of thing?
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Bowser
08-12-2016, 09:19 AM
I think he drives teams crazy - much in the same way Jake Plummer used to bootleg us. It's so annoying to give up yards that way.
Ah, the Jake Plummer bootleg. You'd think there would have been one time Eric Hicks would have remembered not to crash down on that play leaving Plummer wide open on the roll out. But no.
Hammock Parties
08-12-2016, 09:23 AM
Hmmm. So like the opposite of you? Overly harsh on the Chiefs, over effusive with praise of all other teams? That kind of thing?
Homers are a dime a dozen.
I'm one of a kind, baby.
Homers are a dime a dozen.
I'm one of a kind, baby.
That's certainly true. You are unique. To quote the band Everclear "you're perfect in a fucked up way"
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WhiteWhale
08-12-2016, 09:32 AM
Well he was good enough to beat the best QB and Defense of all time last season - in THEIR house.
I hope this was sarcasm.
2015 Manning wasn't the best QB of all time. He wasn't even a top 15 QB in the NFL. He was terrible, and the broncos won in spite of mediocre (at best) QB play.
OctoberFart
08-12-2016, 09:35 AM
The guy uses Carr's Rookie year to compare against Smiths best year. WTF?
The guy uses Carr's Rookie year to compare against Smiths best year. WTF?
When I saw that it ruined the credibility of the comparison, but he did admit his mistake and stated at the end hed take Carr over Smith
TigeRRUppeRRcut
08-12-2016, 09:51 AM
The only numbers you need to look at is Alex's-Yards Per Game and Touch Downs.
Both need to be improved greatly this year.
And add his rushing yards dont you think?
I'm bigger on completion %, yards per attempt, total team td's, and td/int ratio. Our team has a run first mentality thus ypg as a benchmark is practically useless.
TigeRRUppeRRcut
08-12-2016, 09:52 AM
He's a very average QB which is better than anything we've had since Green.
He does not lose games with stupidity but then again, don't expect him to win games with brilliance either.
I can live with that.
His playoff performances both here and with San Fran says otherwise
Ming the Merciless
08-12-2016, 09:57 AM
easily the best sliding QB in the game!
He has made a lot of plays with his feet....especially last season.
But if he keeps trying to make stuff happen with his feet, he's gonna get pay a heavy price...
I'd much rather have a guy who doesnt have to rely on his feet as much...but not all of the blame is on ALex for that last season...the right side of our line caved in alot on him. Hopefully we got that figured out.
I'd love to see his rushing yards go down to almost zero and his passing yards go up by that same amount or more
Pasta Little Brioni
08-12-2016, 10:03 AM
I can't tell if this is the real pawnmower or not
RunKC
08-12-2016, 10:11 AM
Biggest issue was protection. He got nervous and didn't want to take shots on good defenses that pressured him, after getting killed in the first 4 games last season.
When Alex had a good OL in the 2nd half of 2013, he scored 20 TD's in the last 9 games. He also scored multiple TD's a game in 4 of the last 6 regular season games in 2015.
He's an average level QB who can be above average if the OL and receivers are good, which
appears to be the case this year.
OctoberFart
08-12-2016, 10:21 AM
His playoff performances both here and with San Fran says otherwise
How are Smiths third down conversation in the games where he put up decent numbers? I'm pointing to the indy meltdown and NFC champ game specifically?
How are Smiths third down conversation in the games where he put up decent numbers? I'm pointing to the indy meltdown and NFC champ game specifically?
Well the Indy meltdown was really more on the defense than Smith and the offense. The 2nd half offensive playcalling and execution was the perfect strategy for a 30 point lead but unfortunately the lead was only 28.
TigeRRUppeRRcut
08-13-2016, 06:52 AM
How are Smiths third down conversation in the games where he put up decent numbers? I'm pointing to the indy meltdown and NFC champ game specifically?
Do you even think before talking? Charles didn't even make it onto the field for more than five minutes and Smith put up spectacular numbers despite having a bunch of broke dicks to throw to.
milkman
08-13-2016, 07:15 AM
Biggest issue was protection. He got nervous and didn't want to take shots on good defenses that pressured him, after getting killed in the first 4 games last season.
When Alex had a good OL in the 2nd half of 2013, he scored 20 TD's in the last 9 games. He also scored multiple TD's a game in 4 of the last 6 regular season games in 2015.
He's an average level QB who can be above average if the OL and receivers are good, which
appears to be the case this year.
This is on the mark.
If this O-Line is as good as some/many of us think it has the potential to be, Alex Smith will have a highly efficient year with respectable numbers.
TigeRRUppeRRcut
08-13-2016, 07:21 AM
Biggest issue was protection. He got nervous and didn't want to take shots on good defenses that pressured him, after getting killed in the first 4 games last season.
When Alex had a good OL in the 2nd half of 2013, he scored 20 TD's in the last 9 games. He also scored multiple TD's a game in 4 of the last 6 regular season games in 2015.
He's an average level QB who can be above average if the OL and receivers are good, which
appears to be the case this year.
I've only known one QB who is a perennial winner and has played with absolute shit for his O line. Russell Wilson.
Shekelsteinberg
08-16-2016, 02:47 PM
http://www.sfexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/s.balls_.1203.jpg
Looking forward to seeing how my boy Alex improved his game from last season.
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