It's going to be kind of shitty when the Raiders have a better stadium than us

[Hammock Parties]

Damn son :eek:

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[Fansy the Famous Bard]

shitty? not really. If they build a new one, it'll be new and sweet for them, I guess.

[Hammock Parties]

shitty? not really. If they build a new one, it'll be new and sweet for them, I guess.

it would suck be inferior to the Raiders in any way

[mikeyis4dcats.]

god thats ugly

[notorious]

I enjoy Vegas.



Please do not infest it with that scum. The last thing I want to see while playing blackjack is 4 douchebags in Raider gear.

[In58men]

Levi stadium is horrible. It doesn't have the football feel to it. I like older stadiums, Lambeau would be awesome to visit. I think these newer stadiums are garbage.

[Red Dawg]

Bullshit! Arrowhead is a rowdy old school football heaven on earth paradise for those that want to get loud and kick ass! Every fan has piss on their hands and smell like beer and beef. It's not a place for the whine and cheese taster crowds that places like in those pictures draw. That place is made for wussies!

Nothing is better than Arrowhead! Nothing!

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

it would suck be inferior to the Raiders in any way

not really

[O.city]

A weekend in vegas to watch the chiefs? Yeah, sign me up

[Hammock Parties]

not really

i don't want to go back to the days of gunther

[Halfcan]

Looks like a giant toilet bowl.

[Hydrae]

Those pics from Vegas and LA look like the same stadium. :spock:

[O.city]

So I can fly to vegas from springfield friday night, stay at Mandalay bay for 3 nights, walk to the game, and fly back Monday morning.

Yeah, I'm not upset about that.

[Simply Red]

The Chiefs do NOT need 'fancy' - all they need is a place to tailgate, a place to play and a neighboring Taco Bell.

[Rain Man]

I read recently that the new stadium will include full-length mirrors in the men's room so the fans can adjust their cute little costumes.

[Al Czervik]

Beat em on the field....THAT is the only thing that matters.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Those pics from Vegas and LA look like the same stadium. :spock:

well since they don't know where they will be long term...

[Halfcan]

The Chiefs do NOT need 'fancy' - all they need is a place to tailgate (within the new designated lines), a place to play and a neighboring Taco Bell.

FYP

[the Talking Can]

The rich asshole proposing that stadium also said he wouldn't accept Les than $750 million in public funds and it was non-negotiable...so good luck with that

[Pitt Gorilla]

NFL in Vegas will be incredible. God forbid, but if the Chiefs were forced to move, Vegas would be a great location.

[DaneMcCloud]

The rich asshole proposing that stadium also said he wouldn't accept Les than $750 million in public funds and it was non-negotiable...so good luck with that

It's a publicly funded stadium and will be publicly owned, not privately owned.

The $750 million will come from hotel taxation. Mark Davis is chipping in $500 million, the NFL $300 million and the rest from the group of investors, who will also be responsible for any construction overruns.

Vegas was awarded an NHL franchise and if they build this stadium for the Raiders, the NBA won't be far behind.

[Halfcan]

Since Fader fans love dressing up like Darth Vader so much-they should make their stadium like this.

[Chief_For_Life58]

lol raiders in vegas. that would be hilarious. what a shit organization

[Chief_For_Life58]

going to older stadiums is a way nicer actual football experience then going to cowboys stadium imo. minus chargers stadium, good god that place is a shit hole.

[fan4ever]

I think these kind of look cool...still going to have the same kind scum inside of it though, right? I can imagine all the rowdy drunks from Vegas showing up and getting their Raiders on...

[Mennonite]

The $750 million will come from hotel taxation. Mark Davis is chipping in $500 million, the NFL $300 million and the rest from the group of investors, who will also be responsible for any construction overruns.

And, if all else fails, they can raise some extra bucks by putting old Al's corpse on display over at the Luxor.

[nychief]

http://deadspin.com/report-sheldon-adelson-up-to-some-shady-shit-on-las-ve-1785800831

[Buns]

I'm not excited for this. Fuck the Raiders. Fuck Clay too for being Clay. Good day all.

[ClevelandBronco]

I make it a rule never to attend pro football games, but I might make an exception for Denver Broncos at Las Vegas Raiders.

[the Talking Can]

It's a publicly funded stadium and will be publicly owned, not privately owned.

The $750 million will come from hotel taxation. Mark Davis is chipping in $500 million, the NFL $300 million and the rest from the group of investors, who will also be responsible for any construction overruns.

Vegas was awarded an NHL franchise and if they build this stadium for the Raiders, the NBA won't be far behind.

“Not to be difficult, but we’re not negotiable,” said Sands President Rob Goldstein, who spoke on behalf of billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson and his family. “If we can’t get 750, we respectfully thank you but we’re going to move on.”

being publicly owned doesn't matter, it just means the public is left holding the bag while the terms ensure the investors get rich

Sheldon Anderson can afford to build his own stadium


http://deadspin.com/raiders-stadium-backers-tell-las-vegas-give-us-750-mi-1785792123

[Rain Man]

I read recently that the new stadium will include entryway metal detectors that are programmed to ignore home arrest ankle monitors, as a response to market research with Raiders fans.

[Halfcan]

Take a team that has historically lacked motivation, had legal issues with women and drugs-then put them in Sin City.

What could go wrong?

[big nasty kcnut]

Arrowhead better then that toilet looking raider wet dream. Also chiefs look like a football stadium

[ClevelandBronco]

Arrowhead better then that toilet looking raider wet dream. Also chiefs look like a football stadium

And bring back leather helmets!!!

[displacedinMN]

How many people are really from Vegas? Do they have enough locals to fill that place?
Or will they depend on the visiting teams tourists?

[Rain Man]

Take a team that has historically lacked motivation, had legal issues with women and drugs-then put them in Sin City.

What could go wrong?


I bet Siegrfried and Roy are worried about having Raiders in the area, too.

[Titty Meat]

As long as we have the better team idgaf

[ClevelandBronco]

How many people are really from Vegas? Do they have enough locals to fill that place?
Or will they depend on the visiting teams tourists?

If there's one city in the US that could plan on filling a stadium by depending on a sizable ticket base from outside its own geographic area, it's Vegas. Other thing is, the Raiders already have a substantial fan base outside of Oakland. I could definitely see folks flying in for a weekend to do a little gaming and catch their favorite team to cap it off.

[C3HIEF3S]

As long as we have the better team idgaf

This. If we were perennial contenders, I'd take the shithole coliseum for all I care.

[Red Dawg]

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[DaneMcCloud]

If there's one city in the US that could plan on filling a stadium by depending on a sizable ticket base from outside its own geographic area, it's Vegas. Other thing is, the Raiders already have a substantial fan base outside of Oakland. I could definitely see folks flying in for a weekend to do a little gaming and catch their favorite team to cap it off.

Plus, it's only a 3.5 hour drive from Hollywood and less from other surrounding cities.

The Raiders still have a large fan base in LA and I'm sure that plenty of people would road trip each weekend.

[DaneMcCloud]

being publicly owned doesn't matter, it just means the public is left holding the bag while the terms ensure the investors get rich

Sheldon Anderson can afford to build his own stadium

While it's certainly true that Addelson can afford to build a stadium, public funds are the only way a stadium is built in cities like Las Vegas and San Diego, as the owners aren't wealthy enough to build them without it.

I've said for years that Mark Davis should sell 49% of his ownership stake in the Raiders and take that money, along with the minority owner's funding to build the Raiders a stadium in the Bay Area. But for whatever reason, he refused to do so.

Same with the Spanos family. AEG was all ready to build a new stadium in DTLA, right next to Staples at LA Live!, if the Spanos family would sell 49% interest in their team to him, but they refused. Now, they're asking for public funds in San Diego because all of their net worth is tied up in the ownership of the Chargers and they can't build a new stadium without funding from the city and $300 million from the NFL front office.

It's corporate welfare but without it, San Diego doesn't have a football team and neither will Vegas.

[hometeam]

What makes a stadium better? How new it is? What kind of bullshit gimmicks it has?


How about how good is the tailgating, how good is the fan experience, how good of people come to the game.

Raiders will never have a better stadium than us.

[Predarat]

Bullshit! Arrowhead is a rowdy old school football heaven on earth paradise for those that want to get loud and kick ass! Every fan has piss on their hands and smell like beer and beef. It's not a place for the whine and cheese taster crowds that places like in those pictures draw. That place is made for wussies!

Nothing is better than Arrowhead! Nothing!

Exactly!!

[Coach]

Those pics from Vegas and LA look like the same stadium. :spock:

That's why I call it bullshit.

[Coach]

What makes a stadium better? How new it is? What kind of bullshit gimmicks it has?


How about how good is the tailgating, how good is the fan experience, how good of people come to the game.

Raiders will never have a better stadium than us.

Unless Mark Donovan and his brown shirt parking Nazi's have their way....

[hometeam]

Unless Mark Donovan and his brown shirt parking Nazi's have their way....

They have had there way 3 years in a row and overall, its been fine.

Raiders can still suck it.

[OctoberFart]

I enjoy Vegas.



Please do not infest it with that scum. The last thing I want to see while playing blackjack is 4 douchebags in Raider gear.

Better than some ass hole wearing a red nascar chef hat with a mullet hanging out asking for a natty light.

[dls6501]

It will be even shittier if/when they have a better team than us.

[DaneMcCloud]

Those pics from Vegas and LA look like the same stadium. :spock:

The Vegas stadium pics are similar to the Carson project, not the Kroenke project.

Apparently, the Raiders like the Carson project stadium proposal so much that they want the Vegas stadium to be very similar.

There would also be an "Eternal Flame" in front of the stadium in memory of Al Davis.

[DaneMcCloud]

All I can say is that I hope the Vegas option happens.

I do not want the Raiders back in Los Angeles (and neither does the mayor and a super majority of the business leaders).

[R8RFAN]

it would suck be inferior to the Raiders in any way

You have always been inferior in Superbowls , Playoffs and class.

[Nickhead]

they should install roller coasters all along all those curves on the outside of the stadium :D

just no water slides ermkay.

[MeatRock]

That stadium looks tight, though I despise the Raiders.

[the Talking Can]

There would also be an "Eternal Flame" in front of the stadium in memory of Al Davis.

would it be coming out of an ass?

[the Talking Can]

and i would totally go to vegas to see the chiefs, and i bet tons of fans from every other team would


interesting what kind of home team culture can develop in vegas, it's a pretty blue collar town outside of the strip (i lived there)...curious how they price tickets to both a) rape tourists and b) allow for a base of lower income locals

[Red Dawg]

Raiders belong in Vegas with all the other dirt bag crazy people walking around there. They will lead the league in suspensions ever year in that town.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The very definition of polishing a turd.

[lewdog]

Get that team moved as soon as you can.

A Chiefs game in Vegas every year. Oh fuck yes!

[Iowanian]

I can't wait for all the rows of Mayans along the road to slap pics of the raiderette escort ads at tourists walking in to see their team beat the 6-10 raiders again.

[Rain Man]

I read recently that the new stadium will include a Stab Cam that seeks out and highlights stabbings during the game.

[Baby Lee]

being publicly owned doesn't matter, it just means the public is left holding the bag while the terms ensure the investors get rich

Sheldon Anderson can afford to build his own stadium


http://deadspin.com/raiders-stadium-backers-tell-las-vegas-give-us-750-mi-1785792123

And where did Sheldon Anderson get so much money? Never heard of him.

[the Talking Can]

And where did Sheldon Anderson get so much money? Never heard of him.

asian casinos


he's a big republican money man, worth billions

[Ming the Merciless]

Ironically I will probably meet and party with more planSteers in Vegas than in Oakland or KC

[lewdog]

Ironically I will probably meet and party with more planSteers in Vegas than in Oakland or KC

Oh fuck yes!!!

[NJChiefsFan]

Does anyone here actually want the Chiefs to have a new, different stadium? As a Yankees fan let me tell you, even when built to be exactly like the old, the new is never the same. Just the feel, with all the big money seats, makes the new stadium so much worse. Arrowhead has the feel teams dream of, I would never want them to risk that.

[FlaChief58]

Their fans will have it looking ghettotastic in no time

[Baby Lee]

asian casinos


he's a big republican money man, worth billions

Amazing he and Sheldon Adelson should live such similar lives in the same city.

[Marcellus]

More concerned with whats on the field than whats around the field.

[Chief Pagan]

All I can say is that I hope the Vegas option happens.

I do not want the Raiders back in Los Angeles (and neither does the mayor and a super majority of the business leaders).

Can't happen soon enough. I'm an OTA cable cutter and I want Sacramento out of the Raiders legally required TV market.

But Vegas would be cool. I've never seen the Chiefs play in Oakland even though I live close. But I could see going to Vegas.

[Deberg_1990]

Would love to make trips out to Vegas to watch Chiefs play there. Would make an awesome weekend trip

[the Talking Can]

Amazing he and Sheldon Adelson should live such similar lives in the same city.

tomato tomawto

[O.city]

Chiefsplanet get together every year at the bellagio

[PHOG]

Omg Road trip (again)

[UL Washington]

Chiefsplanet get together every year at the bellagio

What, not Circus Circus?

[Simply Red]

What, not Circus Circus?

The Sahara! ROFL

[splatbass]

A weekend in vegas to watch the chiefs? Yeah, sign me up

I usually go to Vegas every fall, so that would be good for me too. I'm more likely to see the Chiefs there than in KC. Probably be a lot of tourists/non-Raiders fans there too, so maybe less Raiders fans than in Oakland or LA.

[chiefzilla1501]

The stadium experience relies on the quality of the fans. And I'd rather that stadium be filled with diehards. Vegas? Hmm... Bunch of transients and bandwagon jumpers and tourists, not to mention bigger crowds for the away team. I remember the stale background noise in London. You could have farted in the stands and nobody would notice. I would love a team in Vegas and if there's any team I'd want to wish that Disneyland fan experience on, it's the Raiders.

I've been to college football games in stadiums where students get cheap ticket allocations. It's such a stale experience because many of these students are sitting down and talking the entire game.

[HemiEd]

I enjoy Vegas.



Please do not infest it with that scum. The last thing I want to see while playing blackjack is 4 douchebags in Raider gear.

Yeah, seeing that thing would pretty much dilute my enthusiasm for making my annual pilgrimage back there to zero.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Um, Vegas is full of trash already. Plenty of NEW scum to fill those seats. I doubt the usual Caliphas trash seen at Oakland home games can afford to fly to Vegas to watch them.

[Red Dawg]

Arrowhead is a great stadium. Loud and rowdy and as long as they remodel and keep it up it will always be great.

[Hoover]

If they are moving to Vegas why do they call it Los Angeles Stadium?

[Hoover]

And I'm all for Vegas to have an NFL team. Means I'll go to more games!

[DaneMcCloud]

The stadium experience relies on the quality of the fans.

This is complete bullshit.

I've been to several NFL stadiums across the country to watch the Chiefs and I couldn't care less about the fans of the other team.

The "experience" is whether or not the Chiefs win, not the other fans.

[DaneMcCloud]

If they are moving to Vegas why do they call it Los Angeles Stadium?

The pictures were showing the similarity between the Vegas design and the Carson designed stadium (which lost to the Rams).

[lewdog]

This is complete bullshit.

I've been to several NFL stadiums across the country to watch the Chiefs and I couldn't care less about the fans of the other team.

The "experience" is whether or not the Chiefs win, not the other fans.

While that might be true for most teams, the Raiders fans have caused fans of other teams not to attend games in their stadium or if they do, they don't feel comfortable enough to wear their team's colors. No one wants to go to a sporting event to have things thrown at you, or worse, a physical altercation.

I am wondering if being in Vegas will change this though. Or at least, there will likely be plenty of visiting fans so things can't get too out of hand and others may actually have your back.

[Clyde Frog]

Levi stadium is horrible. It doesn't have the football feel to it. I like older stadiums, Lambeau would be awesome to visit. I think these newer stadiums are garbage.

100% agreed. Levi's is the worst stadium I've ever been to and I go to the shit holes in SD and OAK every year, for the Chiefs games. Theres just no atmosphere and the entire stadium caters to the rich. Theres ~100 luxury boxes and they're all, of course, on the shady side of the stadium. If you get the cheap seats you're going to be baking and there is no wind to help. Don't even get me started on the 3+ hours it takes to get there and another 3+ hours back. As an extra bonus, on the way back you get the bliss of piss drink bros being annoyingly loud and disrespecting all the women on the train.

[scho63]

I enjoy Vegas.

Please do not infest it with that scum. The last thing I want to see while playing blackjack is 4 douchebags in Raider gear.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

[chiefzilla1501]

This is complete bullshit.

I've been to several NFL stadiums across the country to watch the Chiefs and I couldn't care less about the fans of the other team.

The "experience" is whether or not the Chiefs win, not the other fans.

I'm talking about the stadium experience for people who love football. I would definitely go to a Vegas stadium and have a blast. But it's not real regular season football if much of the home crowd barely cares about the game. The game experience for me is a loud crowd, standing and cheering for the home team.

[splatbass]

This is complete bullshit.

I've been to several NFL stadiums across the country to watch the Chiefs and I couldn't care less about the fans of the other team.

The "experience" is whether or not the Chiefs win, not the other fans.

I would rather watch the Chiefs in Las Vegas than in Oakland, because I think there would be less chance of getting killed by their scumbag fans.

[DaneMcCloud]

I would rather watch the Chiefs in Las Vegas than in Oakland, because I think there would be less chance of getting killed by their scumbag fans.

Agreed.

That said, the opposing crowd will be the biggest factor against the Raiders in Vegas, as it's a transient town and close enough to other cities like LA, Phoenix, SF and San Diego in which to drive.

The fact that it's in Vegas will make it much more appealing to fans of the other 31 teams to turn it into a party weekend.

In the end, even though the Raiders will be playing in a state-of-the-art, amazing stadium, it probably hurts them more than helps them.

[Canofbier]

Bullshit! Arrowhead is a rowdy old school football heaven on earth paradise for those that want to get loud and kick ass! Every fan has piss on their hands and smell like beer and beef. It's not a place for the whine and cheese taster crowds that places like in those pictures draw. That place is made for wussies!

Nothing is better than Arrowhead! Nothing!

Uhh, WOW! Arrowhead has to be the lowest-class stadium in the league thanks to rednecks like you! You shouldn't be allowed to vote, let alone go to American football games!

I ADORE the idea of a boy's weekend out to Vegas to watch our Chiefies play at a stadium like this...artisanal vegan pork logs and chamomile hibiscus mimosas for all! Yummers! :drool: :D

[Chief Pagan]

Agreed.

That said, the opposing crowd will be the biggest factor against the Raiders in Vegas, as it's a transient town and close enough to other cities like LA, Phoenix, SF and San Diego in which to drive.

The fact that it's in Vegas will make it much more appealing to fans of the other 31 teams to turn it into a party weekend.

In the end, even though the Raiders will be playing in a state-of-the-art, amazing stadium, it probably hurts them more than helps them.

Yup. Another reason it would be good for the Chiefs, especially if they get more KC fans for the away game against the Raiders.

Everybody wins (including the Raiders' owner with a full stadium) except the Raiders on the field (and they're used to that).

[Red Dawg]

Uhh, WOW! Arrowhead has to be the lowest-class stadium in the league thanks to rednecks like you! You shouldn't be allowed to vote, let alone go to American football games!

I ADORE the idea of a boy's weekend out to Vegas to watch our Chiefies play at a stadium like this...artisanal vegan pork logs and chamomile hibiscus mimosas for all! Yummers! :drool: :D

I am not a redneck and go **** yourself if you want to watch football in some artsy fartsy bullshit new stadium. I rather be at Arrowhead. Its loud and for tough guys and gives us pride and and advantage. Ask Dallas if their new fancy rich boy stadium has done the same for them. They have no advantage and lose their all the time because the crowd is the rich people that only go because it's a social event and they think is cool. **** new stadiums. Remodel and upgrade the old ones. I don't see GB tearing down Lambeau any time soon.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I am not a redneck and go **** yourself if you want to watch football in some artsy fartsy bullshit new stadium. I rather be at Arrowhead. Its loud and for tough guys and gives us pride and and advantage. Ask Dallas if their new fancy rich boy stadium has done the same for them. They have no advantage and lose their all the time because the crowd is the rich people that only go because it's a social event and they think is cool. **** new stadiums. Remodel and upgrade the old ones. I don't see GB tearing down Lambeau any time soon.

I think he was agreeing with you.

[splatbass]

Agreed.

That said, the opposing crowd will be the biggest factor against the Raiders in Vegas, as it's a transient town and close enough to other cities like LA, Phoenix, SF and San Diego in which to drive.

The fact that it's in Vegas will make it much more appealing to fans of the other 31 teams to turn it into a party weekend.

In the end, even though the Raiders will be playing in a state-of-the-art, amazing stadium, it probably hurts them more than helps them.

I agree, although historically in both LA and Oakland they have had trouble filling their stadium. They use tarps to cover entire sections of seats so they don't have to count them. If they fill the stadium in Vegas they may not care if it is fans filling it or tourists as long as it is full.

[TEX]

It looks gay.

[DaneMcCloud]

I agree, although historically in both LA and Oakland they have had trouble filling their stadium. They use tarps to cover entire sections of seats so they don't have to count them. If they fill the stadium in Vegas they may not care if it is fans filling it or tourists as long as it is full.

Well, this is actually not exactly true.

While the Raiders certainly covered a minimum of 30,000 seats while playing at the Coliseum, that particulart stadium holds more than 100,000 people. So without covering the seats, there was no way to ensure that the Blackout Rule was lifted.

Unfortunately for the Raiders, the same thing has been applied since their return to Oakland.

When the Rams played in the Coliseum, they sold out for decades and they're sold out this year (and likely for the foreseeable future). Anaheim is a completely different city and county and most die hard LA Rams fans didn't want to spend their Sundays in 6 hours of traffic. I've had it take 2.5-3 hours just to get to Disneyland on the weekends when during the week, it's only about a 30 minute drive.

[splatbass]

It looks gay.

Like the pirate on their helmet?

[splatbass]

Well, this is actually not exactly true.

While the Raiders certainly covered a minimum of 30,000 seats while playing at the Coliseum, that particulart stadium holds more than 100,000 people. So without covering the seats, there was no way to ensure that the Blackout Rule was lifted.

Unfortunately for the Raiders, the same thing has been applied since their return to Oakland.

When the Rams played in the Coliseum, they sold out for decades and they're sold out this year (and likely for the foreseeable future). Anaheim is a completely different city and county and most die hard LA Rams fans didn't want to spend their Sundays in 6 hours of traffic. I've had it take 2.5-3 hours just to get to Disneyland on the weekends when during the week, it's only about a 30 minute drive.

They still cover seats in Oakland.

http://sportsnaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/0396.jpg

[DaneMcCloud]

They still cover seats in Oakland.



Yep

While the Raiders certainly covered a minimum of 30,000 seats while playing at the Coliseum, that particular stadium holds more than 100,000 people. So without covering the seats, there was no way to ensure that the Blackout Rule was lifted.

Unfortunately for the Raiders, the same thing has been applied since their return to Oakland.

[Canofbier]

I think he was agreeing with you.

More of a neutral party, really...I just thought the seriousness of his macho shit was funny and wanted to see if I could get a rise out of him (I succeeded, I think).

I do like modernized stadiums - different sport, obviously, but Target Field up here in Minneapolis is awesome. Tons of different food and drink options, and the stadium is really well-designed and clean. Most importantly, though, there's not a bad seat in the house. Great for diehards (the few that exist) and casual fans alike.

It's been a while since I've been able to go to Arrowhead and I don't think there's any reason to make a "new" stadium, but I imagine that if for whatever reason one were built, they could keep (or even enhance) a lot of the things that make Arrowhead great (crowd noise and involvement, tailgating, etc) while also improving the amenities and polish of the place.

I'm not a Vikings fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm going to try and attend a game at their new stadium this year to see what they managed to do with the place. The concept drawings I saw back in the day impressed me, so hopefully they managed to turn some of those good elements into reality.

[Red Dawg]

Does anyone want Arrowhead torn down and rebuilt into a new fancy monstrosity?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

More of a neutral party, really...I just thought the seriousness of his macho shit was funny and wanted to see if I could get a rise out of him (I succeeded, I think).

I do like modernized stadiums - different sport, obviously, but Target Field up here in Minneapolis is awesome. Tons of different food and drink options, and the stadium is really well-designed and clean. Most importantly, though, there's not a bad seat in the house. Great for diehards (the few that exist) and casual fans alike.

It's been a while since I've been able to go to Arrowhead and I don't think there's any reason to make a "new" stadium, but I imagine that if for whatever reason one were built, they could keep (or even enhance) a lot of the things that make Arrowhead great (crowd noise and involvement, tailgating, etc) while also improving the amenities and polish of the place.

I'm not a Vikings fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm going to try and attend a game at their new stadium this year to see what they managed to do with the place. The concept drawings I saw back in the day impressed me, so hopefully they managed to turn some of those good elements into reality.

Having been to the Arrowhead remodel myself, I believe they did a great job of getting things up to spec while keeping the feel of the old house.

I hear tell the parking still sucks balls, though.

[TribalElder]

Didn't read the thread

Watching the raiders play on that pathetic field is just sad

It's half a baseball field and half a full port o potty. I hope they do get a new field and stadium just so our team doesn't have to play in that shithole of a stadium every year

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Didn't read the thread

Watching the raiders play on that pathetic field is just sad

It's half a baseball field and half a full port o potty. I hope they do get a new field and stadium just so our team doesn't have to play in that shithole of a stadium every year

This is true. It is highly unethical to make legitimate franchises visit such a shit hole.