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Mr. Laz
09-06-2016, 07:18 PM
with Saints.


Brees doesn't give a single fuck about the team. He is going to bend them over again and go in dry.

Pure FaceRape ROFL

In58men
09-06-2016, 07:19 PM
What makes you think he doesn't care?

Simply Red
09-06-2016, 07:36 PM
What makes you think he doesn't care?

he's like 95 yrs old!

BlackOp
09-06-2016, 07:38 PM
Elway just broke an empty booze bottle against the wall....Brees was his only hope next season.

Mr. Laz
09-06-2016, 07:39 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source in early Aug: Tom Condon, agent for QB Drew Brees, asked for $85M guaranteed on new deal. Brees said he thinks he can play 5 more yrs</p>&mdash; Jason Cole (@JasonColeBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonColeBR/status/772995625268813824">September 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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MahiMike
09-06-2016, 07:39 PM
he's like 95 yrs old!

This. It will set this team back 10 years.

Coochie liquor
09-06-2016, 07:39 PM
Best qb that franchise has ever had. Give it to em good Drew!

Mr. Laz
09-06-2016, 07:40 PM
What makes you think he doesn't care?

Because his contract demands and unwillingness to restructure is KILLING the team's cap.

Mr. Laz
09-06-2016, 07:40 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew Brees looking for 4-year, $100M deal <a href="https://t.co/kilOKdpIZC">https://t.co/kilOKdpIZC</a></p>&mdash; Rotoworld Football (@Rotoworld_FB) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rotoworld_FB/status/772804428437024768">September 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Pablo
09-06-2016, 07:42 PM
That Wranglers money is running thinner than his hairline it seems.

DaneMcCloud
09-06-2016, 07:47 PM
Good.

Now he won't end up in Denver.

Rain Man
09-06-2016, 07:54 PM
In the years since Brees was drafted, Michael Vick was drafted, played for several years, went to prison, got out of prison, was named comeback player of the year, played for several more years, got cut, signed with another team, got cut again, signed with another team, and got cut again.

CaliforniaChief
09-06-2016, 07:57 PM
He's in the middle of an amazing career. But that kind of guaranteed money for a 37 year old QB strikes me as a Kobe-like reward for the past and maybe not the best investment for the future.

But yeah, you get your franchise QB and ride him into the sunset.

KChiefs1
09-06-2016, 07:58 PM
This. It will set this team back 10 years.



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Easy 6
09-06-2016, 07:59 PM
If New Orleans wants to maintain a credible veneer of any kind they'll pay handsomely... much like San Diego , they're absolute basement dwellers without top talent at QB making them look better than they actually are

He will have to spend his last years on a team thats almost as bad looking as the one he joined in 2006, make' em pay for it

Nickhead
09-07-2016, 01:01 AM
i remember back on april 1st, i made a joke thread, that the chiefs got fucked again, because brees was traded to denver. it got deleted. not on this forum but another. i sure the hell hope no one tries to infringe on my awesome ability to make april fools jokes. :D

-King-
09-07-2016, 05:07 AM
If New Orleans wants to maintain a credible veneer of any kind they'll pay handsomely... much like San Diego , they're absolute basement dwellers without top talent at QB making them look better than they actually are

He will have to spend his last years on a team thats almost as bad looking as the one he joined in 2006, make' em pay for it

Part of the reason they can't properly build the team is because of that QB. His salaries are out of control and if they give in to him, they're guaranteeing that they'll suck for at least the next 4+ years.
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BossChief
09-07-2016, 06:33 AM
Because his contract demands and unwillingness to restructure is KILLING the team's cap.

That's a misinformed opinion.

Brees has been paid market value for the position and has returned HOF production for the contract.

The Saints aren't bad because of Brees' contract...NO is bad because they give a lot of flash in the pan guys huge FA deals and every year are stuck with tens of millions of dollars in dead money.

I mean, right now they have 36m in dead money and are over the cap, while still signing more players...setting themselves up for the next round of huge dead money.

notorious
09-07-2016, 06:37 AM
Players should try to get every penny they possibly can.

BossChief
09-07-2016, 06:48 AM
If Brees was truly being greedy, he would be forcing the Saints hand more and would need franchised next year at 47 million, or hit FA where he would get monster money.

Hammock Parties
09-07-2016, 07:01 AM
The Saints are going to be sad shits again when he leaves.

Before he arrived they had two seasons over .500 in 13 years.

Mr. Laz
09-07-2016, 11:06 AM
That's a misinformed opinion.

Brees has been paid market value for the position and has returned HOF production for the contract.

The Saints aren't bad because of Brees' contract...NO is bad because they give a lot of flash in the pan guys huge FA deals and every year are stuck with tens of millions of dollars in dead money.

I mean, right now they have 36m in dead money and are over the cap, while still signing more players...setting themselves up for the next round of huge dead money.

Brees' contract has been slowly killing the team for years.

If New Orleans was smart they would have traded Brees to the vikings for a huge haul of picks and moved on.

The Franchise
09-07-2016, 11:10 AM
Yeah, his contract hinders the team.....but the contracts they give out to everyone else is what's fucking that team.

Look at the fucking dead money.

Dead Money

Junior Galette $12,100,000
Keenan Lewis $6,350,000
Jahri Evans $5,100,000
Brandon Browner $4,050,000
Marques Colston $2,700,000
David Hawthorne $2,260,000
Brodrick Bunkley $1,612,500
Erik Lorig $500,000
Stanley Jean-Baptiste $482,448
TOTAL $35,701,191

Giving C.J. Spiller $16 million was stupid.

O.city
09-07-2016, 11:11 AM
Brees makes a shitload, but he performs to the dollar level. Probably aren't getting surplus value, but if he's at a HOF level, well, you don't need it.

Discuss Thrower
09-07-2016, 11:12 AM
At the risk of sounding like Hootie, this is makes it even more bullshit that Tom Brady owns a company that is contracted out by the Patriots whilst taking a smaller actual salary with the team.

Direckshun
09-07-2016, 11:15 AM
Yeah, his contract hinders the team.....but the contracts they give out to everyone else is what's ****ing that team.

Look at the ****ing dead money.

Dead Money

Junior Galette $12,100,000
Keenan Lewis $6,350,000
Jahri Evans $5,100,000
Brandon Browner $4,050,000
Marques Colston $2,700,000
David Hawthorne $2,260,000
Brodrick Bunkley $1,612,500
Erik Lorig $500,000
Stanley Jean-Baptiste $482,448
TOTAL $35,701,191

Giving C.J. Spiller $16 million was stupid.

This.

O.city
09-07-2016, 11:15 AM
At the risk of sounding like Hootie, this is makes it even more bullshit that Tom Brady owns a company that is contracted out by the Patriots whilst taking a smaller actual salary with the team.

yes

DJ's left nut
09-07-2016, 12:30 PM
Yeah, his contract hinders the team.....but the contracts they give out to everyone else is what's fucking that team.

Look at the fucking dead money.

Dead Money

Junior Galette $12,100,000
Keenan Lewis $6,350,000
Jahri Evans $5,100,000
Brandon Browner $4,050,000
Marques Colston $2,700,000
David Hawthorne $2,260,000
Brodrick Bunkley $1,612,500
Erik Lorig $500,000
Stanley Jean-Baptiste $482,448
TOTAL $35,701,191

Giving C.J. Spiller $16 million was stupid.

Some of it is also still remnants of the bounty-gate punishments. When that happened, the Saints knew they were looking at another 3-5 years at most of 'Peak Brees' and they knew they probably didn't have enough time to effectuate a full re-build.

So with little they could do to internally supplement and with an unwillingness to waste the remaining prime of their HOF quarterback, they simply kept pushing in with free agents until they couldn't anymore and the cap blew up.

The Saints are a cautionary tale for the 'The Cap is a Myth' idiots. The cap can be manipulated, but only for a couple of years. You can push off the pain but it WILL get you. And when you lose draft capital that could've helped prevent some of those cap machinations, it's gonna get you that much worse.

The Franchise
09-07-2016, 01:37 PM
He just signed.

The New Orleans Saints have agreed in principle with Brees on a contract extension, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, via a source informed of the deal. He'll receive $44.25 million fully guaranteed over the next two years, Rapoport added.

Deberg_1990
09-07-2016, 01:41 PM
The Saints are going to be sad shits again when he leaves.

Before he arrived they had two seasons over .500 in 13 years.

I still think the NFL did everything in its Power to make sure the Saints were successful after Katrina. In 2005 that was a dead franchise and was ready to move to San Antonio.

I read somewhere that at least half of their season ticket holders in 2006 were bought by bleeding heart out of towners

KC_Lee
09-07-2016, 01:45 PM
He just signed.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000696100/article/drew-brees-saints-agree-to-terms-on-contract-extension


Armed with an exceptional dose of leverage, Drew Brees imposed a negotiating deadline that succeeded in spurring action for a lucrative new contract.

The New Orleans Saints have agreed in principle with Brees on a contract extension, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, via a source informed of the deal. He'll receive $44.25 million fully guaranteed over the next two years, Rapoport added.

Content to earn $19.75 million in the final season of a five-year, $100 million contract, Brees warned that he would cease negotiations once the season kicks off this weekend. He held inordinate leverage with knowledge that the 2017 franchise tag would carry a prohibitive cap charge of $43.2 million.

If the Saints were unwilling to meet that number, Brees could have threatened to leave for the highest bidder next March. In other words, this was set up as a tricky contract conundrum all offseason.


Going back to November of 2014, Rapoport had reported the Saints were already thinking about life after Brees. The team's front office even staged internal discussions about trading up to No. 1 overall for a quarterback, Rapoport added prior to the 2016 draft.

Even if New Orleans' decision makers were reluctant to commit to a 37-year-old quarterback into the next decade, they can take solace in the quality of Brees' late-season game film as he battled through "horrible, miserable pain" due to a torn plantar fascia and a rotator cuff injury in his throwing arm.

Brees finished 2015 with numbers remarkably similar to those from his 2009 Super Bowl campaign. He's the lone quarterback to generate a QBR score of 70 or higher in each of the past three seasons.

Although one offensive coordinator recently opined to ESPN.com Mike Sando that Brees' accuracy and arm talent decreased for the first time last season, another defensive coach took issue with the notion of an impending decline.

"I don't see the deterioration," the defensive coach said. "He is a victim of his cast of characters. Let's recreate the quarterback challenge in Honolulu and watch him put the ball in the laundry cart from 35 yards away."

Brees is not only the face of the organization, but also the most important player ever to sport a Saints uniform.

From the inception of the franchise in 1967 through 2005, New Orleans finished with a top-five offense just twice. Since Brees arrived as one of the two greatest free agents in NFL history a decade ago, his offense had placed in the top five every year with the exception of a sixth-place finish in 2010.

According to The Times-Picayune, the Brees-era Saints (2006-15) have joined the Joe Montana/Steve Young-era 49ers (1982-1996) and the Roger Staubach/Danny White-era Cowboys (1970-1983) as the only three teams since the NFL merger to rank in the top 10 in total offense for 10 consecutive seasons.

It's fitting that Brees will close out his career with coach Sean Payton, as the two combined to lift the Saints out of the doldrums while transforming the former Chargers quarterback into a first-ballot Hall of Famer in New Orleans

jjchieffan
09-07-2016, 03:45 PM
........and in Bronco Nation was heard wailing and gnashing of teeth. Sorry Donk fans. I guess Elfraud isn't grabbing another future hall of famer for you next season.

mcaj22
09-07-2016, 03:57 PM
this deal automatically voids after year 2

so it's a 2 year deal for 44 million they are on the hook for like 15 million in dead money in year 3.

This is the true definition of cap hell lol

Halfcan
09-07-2016, 04:07 PM
One of the All Time great QB's. If he plays 5 more years, he will have every record. 3 years should get him the yardage record. HOFer for sure.

Detoxing
09-07-2016, 04:10 PM
One of the All Time great QB's. If he plays 5 more years, he will have every record. 3 years should get him the yardage record. HOFer for sure.

Just imagine if he plays till he's FIFTY!

G.O.A.T

Halfcan
09-07-2016, 04:19 PM
Just imagine if he plays till he's FIFTY!

G.O.A.T

ROFL 100,000 passing yards 1,000 TD's

He would probably have a bionic arm installed and two hip replacements-but you never know.

I could see Brees doing two more years and getting tired of playing on sucky teams, then calling it a career. I could also see him, if healthy doing 3-4 years. At 20 plus million a year and all the records in reach, it will be hard for him to walk away.

The Franchise
09-08-2016, 10:39 AM
Drew Brees got a $30 million signing bonus on his new two-year deal.

That bonus will be spread out across the next five years of the Saints' cap, lowering Brees' number significantly this year. Bress will get a $1 million base salary this season and a $13 million base salary in 2017. The entire deal is fully guaranteed.

jjchieffan
09-08-2016, 10:53 AM
Drew Brees got a $30 million signing bonus on his new two-year deal.

That bonus will be spread out across the next five years of the Saints' cap, lowering Brees' number significantly this year. Bress will get a $1 million base salary this season and a $13 million base salary in 2017. The entire deal is fully guaranteed.

I'm confused. How are they spreading out a signing bonus on a 2 year deal over 5 years? He's only under contract for 2016, 2017, and 2018 right?