Chiefs rework Justin Houston's contract to gain cap space

[RunKC]

Field Yates@FieldYates-The cap-tight Chiefs turned $7.5M of OLB Justin Houston's $14.9M 2016 base salary into a bonus, creating $6M of cap space.

[Simply Red]

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[RunKC]

I believe that puts us around $11 million? Goddamn do I love Dorsey. The guy is doing everything possible to keep every good player we have.

[Sandy Vagina]

PAY that man moar guaranteed money! He's been so good lately!


:p

[jjchieffan]

Apparently they are looking to add someone to help on defense after last week. Otherwise, why create cap space for this year. I wonder who Dorsey is after? Would just about have to be a trade at this point.

[milkman]

How does this affect next year?

[WhawhaWhat]

Doesn't that just create more of a problem later?

[Simply Red]

Doesn't that just create more of a problem later?

I'm not really sure - I've been wanting to use that gif, although the quality is poorer than I thought.

[Sandy Vagina]

It probably puts that 7.5m right into Houston's pocket, and spreads the cap increase to a mil + change across each of the remaining yrs of his deal.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Doesn't that just create more of a problem later?

Yup. It gives Houston more guaranteed money and increases his salary cap number for the life of his contract.

[RunKC]

Nick Jacobs-Per NFLPA report, after the Houston base salary adjustment to $7.4M , the #Chiefs have $11,170,610 in cap space.

Not sure if the plan is to use this to try to keep Poe and Berry or if it's for looking for another pass rusher via trade.

[RunKC]

Houston is worth every penny and we saw that on Sunday. And I don't believe a standard ACL rehab will be a huge deal for his future.

No problem with this at all.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

How does this affect next year?

Guessing he can restructure someone else to move next years pay to this year

[Quesadilla Joe]

How does this affect next year?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> can roll that unused cap space over to next year. So if they don&#39;t use it, they&#39;ve created about $4.5M in cap room for next year</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/776038838393147393">September 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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According to http://overthecap.com/calculator/kansas-city-chiefs/ the Chiefs were projected to be $1.3M over the salary cap next year.

[Dante84]

Doesn't impact future years positively for us, so it isn't related to signing Berry, since he can't get a new deal until the year ends.

Maybe we are working on Poe's deal now?

[Sandy Vagina]

Houston is worth every penny and we saw that on Sunday. And I don't believe a standard ACL rehab will be a huge deal for his future.

No problem with this at all.

You're almost certainly right. He doesn't seem like the type to ever get complacently abated.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Just heard theres a deal in the works to trade Dee Ford to the Broncos for Von Miller and a 2nd round pick so that makes sense we're trying to make room for a $20mil per year contract.

[scho63]

This guy is good!

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[chiefzilla1501]

Doesn't that just create more of a problem later?

Not necessarily. If they want to sign Berry long term, it allows you to pay Berry more in year 1, which gives you more flexibility on the back end of his contract. So the two somewhat neutralize. The only downside is we Houston would be harder to cut, but I'm okay with that. I wouldn't be surprised if this move was made to take care of business with Berry and maybe poe

[O.city]

They can't sign berry til after the seasin, so maybe it's to lock up poe?

[Sandy Vagina]

Can't do anything with Berry until next offseason.

[loochy]

Just heard theres a deal in the works to trade Dee Ford to the Broncos for Von Miller and a 2nd round pick so that makes sense we're trying to make room for a $20mil per year contract.

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[Titty Meat]

Big Dick Dorsey does it again

[Titty Meat]

They can't sign berry til after the seasin, so maybe it's to lock up poe?

Not sure I'd pay thay guy what he wants.

[ChiefGator]

Doesn't impact future years positively for us, so it isn't related to signing Berry, since he can't get a new deal until the year ends.

Maybe we are working on Poe's deal now?

It does impact NEXT year positively for us though, with the roll over of unused salary cap space.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Nick Jacobs-Per NFLPA report, after the Houston base salary adjustment to $7.4M , the #Chiefs have $11,170,610 in cap space.



That's just the top 51 contracts. The Chiefs have 68 players under contract.

[Dunerdr]

The bad guy have any info or does he still hate all of CP?

[Marcellus]

Nice work.

[nychief]

Apparently they are looking to add someone to help on defense after last week. Otherwise, why create cap space for this year. I wonder who Dorsey is after? Would just about have to be a trade at this point.



I highly doubt this. Who in the hell is available. In season acquisitions never are great in the NFL.

[TEX]

Not sure I'd pay thay guy what he wants.

This.

[BigRedChief]

The bad guy have any info or does he still hate all of CP?Anyone who might know something about the team thats not in the news shares it here, way too many trash them or the information. People just don't share anymore.

Doesn't matter if its money to sign Poe/Barry or making a trade for defensive help. Its all good news. This means that they are confident that Houston will be his old self when fully healed. And that they are not satisfied with the personnel they have or want to keep core players long term.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Keivarae Rusell was released today too... Big CB move coming?

[TLO]

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[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I'm betting on a trade for ILB. Run defense is the backbone of a defense, ours sucks.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

That's just the top 51 contracts. The Chiefs have 68 players under contract.

Quit acting like u have a clue

[Quesadilla Joe]

Quit acting like u have a clue

The NFLPA actually has the Chiefs on the hook for 70 contracts.

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https://www.nflpa.com/public-salary-cap-report

In the offseason only the top 51 contracts are counted towards the salary cap. Once the season starts every contract is counted, including the practice squad.

[RealSNR]

I'm betting on a trade for ILB. Run defense is the backbone of a defense, ours sucks.

No. Sutton only used his "thumpers" half the time, and now that we have March, it's clear he's just fine going without one unless it's a goal line situation.

Tell Poe to play better if you want better run defense. He had an abysmal first half yesterday.

And for fuck's sake somebody fire that damn tackling coach!!!!!

[DaneMcCloud]

No. Sutton only used his "thumpers" half the time, and now that we have March, it's clear he's just fine going without one unless it's a goal line situation.

Tell Poe to play better if you want better run defense. He had an abysmal first half yesterday.

And for fuck's sake somebody fire that damn tackling coach!!!!!

Mychael Kendricks was benched in Philly this past week, just months after signing a contract extension, $29 million over 4 years.

Considering Reid's ties to the Eagles organization, a trade for Kendricks wouldn't be surprising.

[Dartgod]

Anyone who might know something about the team thats not in the news shares it here, way too many trash them or the information. People just don't share anymore.

Doesn't matter if its money to sign Poe/Barry or making a trade for defensive help. Its all good news. This means that they are confident that Houston will be his old self when fully healed. And that they are not satisfied with the personnel they have or want to keep core players long term.

Is there a secret club we can join to get this insider info? :p

[BlackOp]

Mychael Kendricks was benched in Philly this past week, just months after signing a contract extension, $29 million over 4 years.

Considering Reid's ties to the Eagles organization, a trade for Kendricks wouldn't be surprising.

That would be awesome....they might be trying to get Poe locked up sooner than later too..

If KC is targeting Kendricks...it means they were not happy with what they saw on game tape.

[Couch-Potato]

Can we please just swing a trade for Revis and have the best secondary in the league? ...pretty sure he'd help our pass rush.

[jjchieffan]

Can we please just swing a trade for Revis and have the best secondary in the league? ...pretty sure he'd help our pass rush.

Uh. It looks like Revis has fallen off a cliff. The dude looks done. No Thanks.

[OldSchool]

Team has a chance to be great if they manage to land the right defensive help.

[Couch-Potato]

Denver listening to offers on Talib???

http://fansided.com/2016/09/04/aqib-talib-trade-rumors-bills-panthers-patriots-redskins/3/

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17457515/denver-broncos-looking-trade-cb-aqib-talib



Contract fits Chiefs $11m in space...

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/aqib-talib-3024/

[OldSchool]

Denver listening to offers on Talib???

http://fansided.com/2016/09/04/aqib-talib-trade-rumors-bills-panthers-patriots-redskins/3/

No chance in hell they would trade him to us. Also, Talib might be a horrible influence on Peters.

[jjchieffan]

Denver listening to offers on Talib???

http://fansided.com/2016/09/04/aqib-talib-trade-rumors-bills-panthers-patriots-redskins/3/

Wow! You are full of fail today. Look at the date on that article. That story is old and was quickly denied by the Donks.

[O.city]

They aren't gonna go trade for a big money guy after 1 game.

I'd guess they're gonna lock someone up longterm, or they wanted more to roll over to next year.

[Couch-Potato]

lol I'm reaching but its all in fun... I'm high on that last win and want these recent moves to add up to one that will make a splash for us.

[BlackOp]

Wow! You are full of fail today. Look at the date on that article. That story is old and was quickly denied by the Donks.

Ha...Talib seems like a perfect fit with Dorsey. :shake:

[Couch-Potato]

Ha...Talib seems like a perfect fit with Dorsey. :shake:


"We have a strong locker room" ...or some rebuttal along those lines right?

[BlackOp]

"We have a strong locker room" ...or some rebuttal along those lines right?

Talib is perfect where he's at....

[Mr. Laz]

Why is everyone saying "good job" when we haven't done anything yet?

as of right now, all it's done is put us on the hook for more guaranteed money for a guy with a knee injury that's unknown.


What we do next will make it good or bad.


Trade? Extension? (with Dorsey it's more likely an extension)


Just sayin'

[Couch-Potato]

Creating cap space is good regardless, but I partially agree... really hoping for something exciting to continue our momentum

[Meatloaf]

Kinda wondering if they're gonna try and lock up Foles for a few years?

[Mr. Laz]

creating cap space is good regardless
no, it's not

Creating cap space almost always screws the cap up later on.


Creating cap space is only good IF:

1. The player you restructure is worth keeping around for the entirety of his contract. (Houston should be as long as the knee injury doesn't linger)

2. You do something more productive with that space than the cap penalty you get by the restructure. (ie keeping a good player or adding a good player)

[Couch-Potato]

Not gonna dig it up but someone posted a folllow up tweet to the announcement indicating that if we don't use the money this year it will roll over till next year, no?

[Couch-Potato]

Kinda wondering if they're gonna try and lock up Foles for a few years?


Thats a possibility that I haven't seen suggested that would make a lot of sense

[Mr. Laz]

Not gonna dig it up but someone posted a folllow up tweet to the announcement indicating that if we don't use the money this year it will roll over till next year, no?

I believe that part of it will.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Kinda wondering if they're gonna try and lock up Foles for a few years?


Would make sense

[Mr. Laz]

Kinda wondering if they're gonna try and lock up Foles for a few years?

Not unless they are planning on replacing Smith with him.

[Garcia Bronco]

Denver listening to offers on Talib???

http://fansided.com/2016/09/04/aqib-talib-trade-rumors-bills-panthers-patriots-redskins/3/

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17457515/denver-broncos-looking-trade-cb-aqib-talib



Contract fits Chiefs $11m in space...

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/aqib-talib-3024/

Did you look at the dates on those articles? The Broncos came out immediately and said they are not trading Talib and have not fielded any offers for him.

[Couch-Potato]

Yes, I see that they are 10 days old... was just looking for a relevant player that might fit the bill.

Anyone you think would make more sense, seems that locking in Poe or Foles makes most sense currently.

[Mr. Laz]

I doubt we make any trade that required big cap space.

Splashy moves just aren't Dorsey's thing.

[rtmike]

Not unless they are planning on replacing Smith with him.

Foles wasn't signed to be the back up.

I've never seen the calm, game managed Alice so animated. I imagine having Foles on the team & hearing all sorts of rumors might make you a bit nervous so that sort of win really had him proud of himself, rightly so.

It was nice to see him actually show some emotions.

[Mr. Laz]

Foles wasn't signed to be the back up.

I've never seen the calm, game managed Alice so animated. I imagine having Foles on the team & hearing all sorts of rumors might make you a bit nervous so that sort of win really had him proud of himself, rightly so.

It was nice to see him actually show some emotions.

Foles was signed as a temporary spot so he could then move on to another team.

Alex Smith is Andy's guy ... period.


Now as for Foles helping to make Alex more aggressive and bring him out of his shell. Very possible and a positive side effect of having a proven vet backup.

[DaneMcCloud]

The Chiefs can pick up Foles option in March, hang onto him for the entirety of the preseason and trade him for a high pick if another team has a need.

They don't have to be under the cap until September, so that's their best option, IMO.

[Chief Roundup]

Poe did not look good in week 1. I hope they wait for a few weeks if it is to resign him to see if he starts bringing it again.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

No move is going to come from this. It just makes sense from the cap perspective as with the extra rollover space, we will have 4.5 million extra next year.