Sac's 2017 Chief's Mock Draft

[Saccopoo]

While I've been heartened by the offense's desire to effectively get Conley and Hill involved, the lack of depth on the defense is nothing if not glaring, especially at the LB and CB positions. It appears that the Chiefs should have four compensatory draft picks for losing Sean Smith, Chase Daniel, Tyvon Branch and Don Stephenson. 3, 4, 6, 6 round picks for those players have been forecasted based on salary. They do lose their regular 6th round pick because of the Maclin tampering decision by the NFL.

Unlike previous years, compensatory picks for the 2017 draft can be traded, but until that happens, I'll stick with the picks as they should be in this mock.

As such, here my mock:

1. Christian McCaffery, RB, Stanford: 6'2", 205 lb.

I don't want to hear the "we already have DeAnthony Thomas and Albert Wilson bullshit. Neither are factors in the offense or special teams. Thomas is a pipe dream and they still keep trying to put him on the field. Wilson continues to alligator arm every pass thrown in his direction.

They (Reid/Dorsey) obviously want this type of guy on the field, but as of right now, Tyreek Hill is the only one working out and he's not a true RB. McCaffery is and has operated out of Stanford's pro style offense.

And there can be no argument. He was, without question, the best college football player in 2015. The guy is an impact on the game and can literally bust open a game any time the ball is in his hands. Can just flat out play football versus just being an exciting gadget player. And with Charles future in serious question, the Chiefs do not have the explosion that Charles provided on the offensive side of the ball.

The only other guy I would consider here would be USC's CB Adoree Jackson, for the same reasons - can play multiple positions on the field, is successful doing all of them and does play a position that is needed on the Chiefs - a solid cover corner opposite Peters, but I'm not sure that Jackson fits the Dorsey matrix for that specific position, so, as such, the pick is McCaffery.

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2. Lowell Lotulelei, DT; Utah: 6'3", 310 lb.

- The best true NT in this draft. Lotulelei is near impossible to move off his spot and demands a double team. Strong like retard bull and when his hands are on the ball carrier it's over. As the NFL shifts back to a more run oriented look, a DT/NT that is effective against the run is a necessity and this is where Lotulelei excels. He won't fit the Dorsey matrix such as Chris Jones does, but there is nobody better at taking on and controlling the gap on the defensive front in this draft than Lowell and with Poe's back a forseeable question mark, the position has to be addressed.

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3. Chidobe Awuzie, CB; Colorado; 6'0", 190 lb.

- Very good in man coverage and is very effective against the run in addition to being an absolute beast making impact plays behind the line of scrimmage. Go watch the CU-CSU game and the CU Utah gamesfrom this season. Awuzie is a legit NFL level player. When a guy can take over a game from the CB spot, that dude can flat out play football and Awuzie can. Reminds me of current Minnesota Vikings CB Xavier Rhodes. Can be a shut down coverage corner, can play the press extremely well and is just absolutely fierce when he gets to the ball. I think he'd be balls in a Sutton defense.

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3. Cooper Kupp, WR; Eastern Washington; 6'2", 210 lb.

- You most likely have never heard of this guy, but he's the best true receiver in the 2017 Draft. Single handedly destroyed Oregon in their 2016 matchup. Thickly muscled, with hands like glue. Never stops working to be the best player on the field. Father and grandfather both played in the NFL. Always extends for the catch, uses his hands away from the body with great control. Very good running after the catch. Great routes. Student of the game. IMO - this is the prototype receiver for Reid's offensive system.

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4. Hunter Dimnick, DE; Utah: 6'3", 272 lb.

- One of if not the best pass rusher in college football in 2016. Also one of the strongest players in college football (bench presses 450 lb., and has the Utah school record of 43 reps at 225 lb. Tireless, plays to the whistle and is too much for most OTs. Has been double and tripled teamed all season and still leads the PAC 12 and nation in solo sacks with 14 in 2016. School record holder in sacks, TFL, tfl yardage. You watch Dimnick and you see Tamba Hali at the same stage. Fierce, sttrong, relentless and has an excellent first step. Uses numerous pass rush moves. Dimnick is ready to play in the NFL right now.

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4. Kai Nacua, S; BYU; 6'2", 210 lb.

- Perhaps the best ball hawk in the entire 2017 Draft as he is currently tied for the lead in interceptions in the FBS division. School record holder for ints. Plays tough as nails and has superb field awareness. Finalist for the 2016 Jim Thorpe award. Also lettered in Volleyball and basketball. Guy is an athlete. The Cougars best player and is a game changer.

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5. Jon "Flounder" Heck, OT; North Carolina: 6'6", 300 lb.

- Legacy! Son of current KC Chiefs OL coach Andy Heck. Reliable and experienced - 42 career starts (and going) at right tackle for the Tarheels. Good in pass protection along with run blocking.

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6. Greg Pyke, OG; Georgia, 6'6", 326 lb.

- Former HS lacrosse star that overgrew that sport. Has played at RG and RT and fits the Chiefs profile for the offensive line. Massive, but athletic with quick feet and good power. Had an apendecomy this past summer so has had a slow start to the 2016 season. Has an enormous ceiling.

watching tape of Pyke absolutely made my day! In fairness, I don't live the most exciting life anymore, but when I see a guard mash his opponents with pure power, good footwork and timing on combination blocks -- that makes me happy. Pyke uses quick, choppy steps to get himself in position and then plays with a strong base to lock defenders out. And he loves to scrap on every snap.

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7. Azeem Victor, ILB; Washington: 6'3", 240 lb.

- If not for a broken leg suffered against USC Victor should be an easy 3 rd round selection. (Maybe even 2 nd round). He's a difference maker on the field for the Huskies and has a great feel for the game. Excellent in coverage, plays the run strong, and has good field awareness. He's going to need time to rehab the leg, but this is an easy use of a late round pick. Fits the Dorsey metrics for the position and if he fully rehabs this is a total steal.

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[Dinny Bossa Nova]

A true thing of beauty, Sac.

GREAT to see you posting again.

Dinny

[The Franchise]

No QB?

[Saccopoo]

No QB?

Not this year. If they are willing to let Hogan dangle versus giving a roster spot to either Knile Davis or DeAnthony Thomas, then they really aren't that serious about the position versus what they already have in Smith, Foles and Bray.

I really think that they were going to draft Lynch this past draft. And I wasn't disappointed in the Hogan pick either. I don't think that they envisioned anyone picking him up and were hoping to let him get reps in on the practice squad and see how he developed. They could easily use one of those R6 picks on the QB position, but I don't see Dorsey falling in love with anyone at the position in this draft versus what he has on roster and what he needs to do in terms of building additional higher level depth on the offensive line and all the LB spots and CB/S positions.

[O.city]

Trade all our pucks for Kizer

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Trade all our pucks for Kizer

*Garrett

[Chief Northman]

Always a treat Sacc - appreciate the rationale behind your projections.

[Go Royals]

Fields is definitely a hit or miss guy. Takes a lot of plays off and doesn't have a great motor.

Against Florida State, he could've had a lot of backside pursuit tackles on Dalvin Cook but he just wasn't runnin after him very hard.

[Saccopoo]

*Garrett

Unless they are Derrick Thomas, you just don't do that. (And even Thomas fell to the fourth overall selection. Von Miller was 2nd pick. And I guarantee you that Garrett isn't even remotely close to either.

Taking Keivarae Russell over Kyler Fackrell in the third round of the 2016 Draft was a huge mistake. I know why they did it, but it was a huge miss. Especially considering the real lack of depth at the OLB position on the roster in addition to Hali and Houston's injuries. And they really have to know that Ford is a bust. The guy just can't compete against NFL tackles. initial hand punches are enough to re-route him going to the outside and he's just not strong enough to work to the inside where you think that a simple swim move combined with his speed would be enough. Year 3, with both Houston and Hali not able to go, you would think that it would be his chance to really shine in this defense and it's just not happening.

And I really think that Dorsey needs to seriously re-evaluate his metrics for the ILB/MLB position. those numbers/intangibles that he keeps thumping into the computer are not happening for him at this point. However, I do think that a guy like Washington's Azeem Victor fits what Dorsey seems to want out of an ILB, and he's a better option than what he's brought in in free agency or drafted the past several years.

A possibility to replace Hali's "elephant" OLB spot in the 2017 Draft would be Utah's Hunter Dimnick. He's not going to wow anyone with timed speed, but he's got freakish strength (450lb bench and 36 reps at 225) and is just absolutely tenacious. Leads the PAC 12 in sacks so far in the 2016 season. Nearly identical to Hali in size and play style.

[Saccopoo]

Updated to reflect Santos being a pile of monkey shit.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

CB's and Fatties; Sacc has come home!

PBJ

[Saccopoo]

Newly updated for total homerism and to include a QB for Pest.

[bsp4444]

In your scenario, shouldn't there be the regular 3rd round pick plus the comp pick?

[Saccopoo]

In your scenario, shouldn't there be the regular 3rd round pick plus the comp pick?

Holy hell!!!!

Moar picks!!!!!

[GloucesterChief]

River Cracraft, if NE doesn't snatch him up, or Gabe Marks due to not prototypical NFL WR size or speed?

[Dave Lane]

CB's and Fatties; Sacc has come home!

PBJ

And don't forget a raft of Utah players.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And don't forget a raft of Utah players.

Got's to have them Utes.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Tim Patrick was a motherfucker for us to cover this weekend. I'm good with a late round flyer on him. He finds a way to get open. Repeatedly.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

That be one hell of a nice draft. We need that DE in a bad way. And we need to hit a home run right there.

[Saccopoo]

Tim Patrick was a motherfucker for us to cover this weekend. I'm good with a late round flyer on him. He finds a way to get open. Repeatedly.

Perhaps the best receiver no one has heard about. He absolutely worked USC's Adoree Jackson earlier this season. Patrick is a real beast, and as you said, he gets open regardless of route or coverage. Insanely good, strong hands.

[Saccopoo]

Newly updated.

[GloucesterChief]

Kizer is not a first round talent at QB. Maybe 3rd to 4th.

[Saccopoo]

Kizer is not a first round talent at QB. Maybe 3rd to 4th.

He'll be a little overvalued due to the position, but a lot of guys have him as the first QB off the board right now. I think he lasts a bit more than that, but I doubt he goes anywhere past the second round. He's prototype in terms of size and athletics and has played in a pro style set at Notre Dame. He'll be in demand come draft day.

[BryanBusby]

Kizer would be a great fit, but someone is gonna be dire and take him in the top 10.

San Francisco will be desperate.

[The Franchise]

:whackit:

[Saccopoo]

Awuzie was an absolute beast against Utah on Saturday. Some of the best play I've recently seen from a college CB. (Last time I recall saying "that CB is just kicking ass" was watching Marcus Peters at Washington. Chidobe is a freak. Dude can flat out play football. Might have moved into Day One or Two in the draft at this point. Plays the ball in both pass and run like a machine.

[Mecca]

Adoree Jackson is a first round pick..I'd love him on the Chiefs but he'd have to be their first pick.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Adoree Jackson is a first round pick..I'd love him on the Chiefs but he'd have to be their first pick.

That's not a QB. Try again, please. :)

How ya' been?

[DaKCMan AP]

I like the target positions. I caution against Alex Anzalone, however, because I just don't know that his body can hold up for the NFL. The guy is always injured.
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[Saccopoo]

I like the target positions. I caution against Alex Anzalone, however, because I just don't know that his body can hold up for the NFL. The guy is always injured.
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I like him and his game a lot, but you are correct. He's out again with a broken arm suffered against Arkansas.

You would think that the run of horrible luck that he's had from an injury perspective would have to stop and he really is a very nice linebacker prospect, but a team would have to do their due diligence.

I think he's a stud when he's on the field though. But he's got to be on the field.

Going to have to do a major editing on this. Victor suffered a broken leg against USC, Anzalone a broken arm, Kizer isn't going to last to the Chiefs pick, etc.

[Saccopoo]

Okay.

Apparently everyone has lost their fucking mind so I have to redo this thing.

Redo will emcompass several things:

1. No matter how much I want Vanderbilt's outstanding ILB, he is not going to last to the Chiefs pick. A guy who is capable of defending the run and pass with that length and instincts is not going to be around in the late 20's. Teams running either 34 or 43 defenses are going to be salivating over Cunningham. Dude is a machine. It's not going to come down to the Combine because a 40 time on him is going to be irrelevant. (And he should have a decent 40 time anyway - probably better than the other guys at his position. And he's perfect for this team. He's the guy that Dorsey has been trying to find, but is just that much better. Comes off of blocks extremely well, and slips gaps easily. Excellent in coverage. Shows very good functional strength in taking on guards. Dude is the total package. IMO the two guys that are close to what Cunningham offers is Washington's Azeem Victor and Florida's Alex Anzalone. However, both are coming off of broken bones suffered in the 2016 season. Victor's being a leg, Anazlone's an arem. They will have to check out medically. Victor has impressed me quite a bit over the past several seasons.

Most of the other available ILB's in this draft are bigger, thicker run pluggers that don't really fit into Sutton's defense or what Dorsey has been punching into the Decision Lens for his matrix numbers.

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2. Kizer will not be there either. He's most likely the #2 pick in the draft, maybe even #1. At the very least he's top ten.

[Saccopoo]

Updated

[RealSNR]

White RBs!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

New mock assumes a "Chiefs continue to build around Smith"-nonsense vibe from seasons past.

What started as a good, yet questionable original mock, has now become the Star Wars prequels of mocks.

D+

[Saccopoo]

New mock assumes a "Chiefs continue to build around Smith"-nonsense vibe from seasons past.

What started as a good, yet questionable original mock, has now become the Star Wars prequels of mocks.

D+

Lol!

What you are failing to see is that the QB position in this particular draft is not top heavy nor is it deep. Kelly at Mississippi would have been a viable mid round selection, but he blew his knee and is not viable as a draft pick unless you are using a very late rounder and hope there's a cance of recovery.

Otherwise, I'm not sure who you are really pining for with the Chiefs pick.

They aren't moving up for Deshone Kizer because Dorsey isn't going to pay that exhorbitent price that it would take to do so with Smith most likely going to be the starter through the 2019 or 2020 season and having signed Nick Foles this off season and having Bray.

They aren't going to burn a high draft pick on this crop of QB's.

You are going to have to keep your eyes on the 2018 Draft for that position. Maybe even the 2019 class where guys like BYU's Tanner Mangum, Mississippi State's Nick Fitzgerald, or Stanford's Keller Chryst or USC's Sam Darnold.

However, I wouldn't pin your hopes on the 2017 class of producing a guy who is going to be the Chiefs QBOTF.

Kizer is as close as it gets in terms of fitting the system, but he's going to be long gone and it will cost far too much to go up that far to get him.

So, as that stands, you might as well put in the tools in the system that will allow that guy, when they decide to get that guy, have the tools ready to go to be successful.

They need a real receiver. They need a dynamic force at RB/HB now that it looks like Charles' future is possibly in doubt. They need a couple more offensive linemen. And they most definitely need an additional pass rusher, cornerback and ILB.

I know that it isn't what you want, but the QBOTF isn't happening in the 2017 Draft unless they get extremely lucky ala Tom Brady later in the draft (And there isn't even a late round Brady type of guy in this draft to be honest).

Sorry.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lol!

What you are failing to see is that the QB position in this particular draft is not top heavy nor is it deep. Kelly at Mississippi would have been a viable mid round selection, but he blew his knee and is not viable as a draft pick unless you are using a very late rounder and hope there's a cance of recovery.

Otherwise, I'm not sure who you are really pining for with the Chiefs pick.

They aren't moving up for Deshone Kizer because Dorsey isn't going to pay that exhorbitent price that it would take to do so with Smith most likely going to be the starter through the 2019 or 2020 season and having signed Nick Foles this off season and having Bray.

They aren't going to burn a high draft pick on this crop of QB's.

You are going to have to keep your eyes on the 2018 Draft for that position. Maybe even the 2019 class where guys like BYU's Tanner Mangum, Mississippi State's Nick Fitzgerald, or Stanford's Keller Chryst.

However, I wouldn't pin your hopes on the 2017 class of producing a guy who is going to be the Chiefs QBOTF.

Kizer is as close as it gets in terms of fitting the system, but he's going to be long gone and it will cost far too much to go up that far to get him.

So, as that stands, you might as well put in the tools in the system that will allow that guy, when they decide to get that guy, have the tools ready to go to be successful.

They need a real receiver. They need a dynamic force at RB/HB now that it looks like Charles' future is possibly in doubt. They need a couple more offensive linemen. And they most definitely need an additional pass rusher, cornerback and ILB.

I know that it isn't what you want, but the QBOTF isn't happening in the 2017 Draft unless they get extremely lucky ala Tom Brady later in the draft (And there isn't even a late round Brady type of guy in this draft to be honest).

Sorry.

You are correct. Also, there will be no QBOTF. Like, ever.

The Chiefs prefer the "Very Free Agent" of the future, or "VAGENT"

As to what they will actually do, I don't believe that Dorsey is going to draft for need or replacement like he did in the case of Albert. That was just a shitty year to have to draft at all.

[gonefishin53]

Two time all ACC first team ILB Micah Kiser has entered 2017 draft. Showed excellent athleticism with 2 sacks on Heisman winner Lamar Jackson. Is a prototypical 3-4 inside linebacker according to draft analyst Chad Reuter. Currently #88 on CBS board but I think he'll move up before draft day.

[Saccopoo]

Two time all ACC first team ILB Micah Kiser has entered 2017 draft. Showed excellent athleticism with 2 sacks on Heisman winner Lamar Jackson. Is a prototypical 3-4 inside linebacker according to draft analyst Chad Reuter. Currently #88 on CBS board but I think he'll move up before draft day.

Both Kiser and LSU's Kendell Beckwith are viable picks for the Chiefs at the ILB spot with one of their third round picks. They have to come out of the draft with somebody at the position.

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I suspect that Dorsey will also extensively comb through the prospective free agent pool as well.

Jon Bostic, Audie Cole, AJ Klein, etc. There's a lot of prospective ILB's in free agency for next season.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

[Saccopoo]

He uses the Decision Lens metric system for free agents as he does foe prospective draft picks.

They will find someone along with the hopeful development of Wilson.

[RunKC]

Both Kiser and LSU's Kendell Beckwith are viable picks for the Chiefs at the ILB spot with one of their third round picks. They have to come out of the draft with somebody at the position.

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I suspect that Dorsey will also extensively comb through the prospective free agent pool as well.

Jon Bostic, Audie Cole, AJ Klein, etc. There's a lot of prospective ILB's in free agency for next season.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/


Jalen Reeves-Maybin Tennessee

[The Franchise]

I'll pass on the quitter.

[gonefishin53]

Player to watch; Jordan Morgan OG Kutztown St. 6'3" 320 lbs . Div. II All American, Gene Upshaw Div. II lineman of the year, PSAC Conference East Division offensive player of the year. Invited to play in the Senior Bowl 1/28/17. Rated 7th round pick on CBS board.

[RippedmyFlesh]

He uses the Decision Lens metric system for free agents as he does foe prospective draft picks.

They will find someone along with the hopeful development of Wilson.

Good article about the salesman from decision lens about dorsey and pioli .

http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/when-it-comes-to-player-evaluation-chiefs-have-gone-from-an-autocracy-to-the-cutting-edge-022114

[88TG88]

Adoree Jackson is a first round pick..I'd love him on the Chiefs but he'd have to be their first pick.

You think so ? A couple former SC guys have called him overrated. Compared him to DAT

I see him 2-3 rd round

[Saccopoo]

You think so ? A couple former SC guys have called him overrated. Compared him to DAT

I see him 2-3 rd round

He's legit and had a pretty solid year at cornerback in 2016. I'm not sure he fits Dorsey's metrics, but he's a solid CB. Go watch the USC/Washington matchup with Jackson against John Ross (who's also a stud at that multi-position speed guy.) Jackson played extremely well.

If you are concerned about how he will e able to handle NFL sized receivers, I'd suggest watching the USC/Utah game where he is going against Tim Patrick.

But Jackson did have a nice season and he was utilized more at CB versus the gadget guy he was the previous couple of seasons.

He's a lot thicker than DAT and is a true defensive player (although he's been used at PR/KR and has lined up at WR and been successful at all, but he's a CB first and foremost, or at least has been in 2016.

I'd take McCaffery first because of his ability to play at RB successfully as well as WR/PR/KR.

We've already got Hill, so John Ross would be redundant, Jackson can play CB though I'm not sure he can against NFL WR's.

[BryanBusby]

I can't imagine prioritizing McCaffery when your starting QB's ability is starting to erode and you really don't have a good option behind him (Foles will be gone).

I actually like what I see from Mitchell and want to see more of his ability before deciding to go Corner. If it looks like he just might stick, I'd take a pass on a corner. That slot should be where the Chiefs choose a RB.

Far too many really good RB's in this draft class to feel pressured to take one on Thursday, unless you're gonna land Fournette.

[kccrow]

I agree with Busby about the depth of RBs and not taking one in round 1.

I think Tankersley fits the Dorsey CB mold better than Jackson.

[RunKC]

I would hate McCaffrey in round 1. Sorry but we have Tyreek Hill. I would rather draft a big sonofabitch like James Conner who has nice athleticism and can run over people.
I'm also not ready to draft a CB rd 1 either with Terrance Mitchell playing outstanding ball against good QB's.

If we sign Poe and Berry like I think we will, I want us to us ammo to move up for a QB. Something like both of our 3rd's, a 5th and a 2nd next year if the QB is someone they believe in.
Aside from that, I want one of the TE's from this elite class so I don't ever have to watch Demetrius Harris miss blocks and drop passes

[O.city]

If for some reason cook felt to the chiefs, even being a rb, I'd take him. Dudes gonna be awesome.

I'd actually look into trading up for an ilb or qb early

[Saccopoo]

I would hate McCaffrey in round 1. Sorry but we have Tyreek Hill. I would rather draft a big sonofabitch like James Conner who has nice athleticism and can run over people.
I'm also not ready to draft a CB rd 1 either with Terrance Mitchell playing outstanding ball against good QB's.

If we sign Poe and Berry like I think we will, I want us to us ammo to move up for a QB. Something like both of our 3rd's, a 5th and a 2nd next year if the QB is someone they believe in.
Aside from that, I want one of the TE's from this elite class so I don't ever have to watch Demetrius Harris miss blocks and drop passes

Agree on the TE/Harris situation. But that's nearly a DAT situation. They keep trying to put them on the field but I think that there is better options in this draft (McCaffery or John Ross vs. DAT) and there are a ton of really outstanding tE's in this draft.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Sacc, why would you take an RB in round 1?

[Saccopoo]

Sacc, why would you take an RB in round 1?

BPA And McCaffery fits the Dorsey profile.

Charles run is basically over. And neither DAT or Wilson is filling the void and neither is West. But they keep trying to get those three guys into the offense no matter how ineffective they have been. McCafferey is a better option than any of those guys.

McCaffery can literally change a game with the ball in his hands. He's an excellent football player and is a dynamic force.

You could make an argument for a tight end like Alabama's OJ Howard or Michigan's Jake Butt, or a CB but I think Awuzie is a better corner than the guys that the pundits are putting in the late first round like Tankersley or LSU's Tredavious White. Other than that, it's an offensive tackle or a 34 rush end. (UCLA's McKinnley had a nice season, but Utah's Hunter Dimnick was substantially better in the same conference and could be had a round or two later. There isn't a QB in this draft other than Kizer that fits this system that's worth a shit and Kizer will be long gone.

McCafferey can litterally flip a game in a single play and now that Charles is out, they don't have anyone at the RB spot that can do that (but they seem to want to have one).

We all seee how Hill has an impact on a game and McCafferey offers that same type of impact.

That's why.

[Saccopoo]

Three potential draftees played extremely well yesterday in the Poinsetta Bowl as BYU defeated Wyoming 24-21.

ILB Linebacker Harvey Langi, who moved back to ILB for this game after starting the 2016 season at DE and finishing the season at RB (where he was an HS All American and originally recruited to play at Utah, was named Defensive MVP.

Cougar RB Jamaal Williams was named Offensive MVP and finished as school record holder in rushing yards.

Also S Kai Nacua sealed the victory with an interception.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

BPA And McCaffery fits the Dorsey profile.

Charles run is basically over. And neither DAT or Wilson is filling the void and neither is West. But they keep trying to get those three guys into the offense no matter how ineffective they have been. McCafferey is a better option than any of those guys.

McCaffery can literally change a game with the ball in his hands. He's an excellent football player and is a dynamic force.

You could make an argument for a tight end like Alabama's OJ Howard or Michigan's Jake Butt, or a CB but I think Awuzie is a better corner than the guys that the pundits are putting in the late first round like Tankersley or LSU's Tredavious White. Other than that, it's an offensive tackle or a 34 rush end. (UCLA's McKinnley had a nice season, but Utah's Hunter Dimnick was substantially better in the same conference and could be had a round or two later. There isn't a QB in this draft other than Kizer that fits this system that's worth a shit and Kizer will be long gone.

McCafferey can litterally flip a game in a single play and now that Charles is out, they don't have anyone at the RB spot that can do that (but they seem to want to have one).

We all seee how Hill has an impact on a game and McCafferey offers that same type of impact.

That's why.

Fair enough. Impact player who fits the system. Does he have any other abilities that could translate to special teams work? What kind of hands does he have? You know how Reid loves to dump those goddamned screens.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Three potential draftees played extremely well yesterday in the Poinsetta Bowl as BYU defeated Wyoming 24-21.

ILB Linebacker Harvey Langi, who moved back to ILB for this game after starting the 2016 season at DE and finishing the season at RB (where he was an HS All American and originally recruited to play at Utah, was named Defensive MVP.

Cougar RB Jamaal Williams was named Offensive MVP and finished as school record holder in rushing yards.

Also S Kai Nacua sealed the victory with an interception.

I don't see Dorsey going in to panic-mode about DJ and trying to take an ILB high. It doesn't fit his method. Thoughts?

[BryanBusby]

It's not about going into panic mode. DJ is in his mid 30's and was going to need to be replaced even if his Achilles didn't shread like Mozzarella. The ILB position right now is easily the weakest spot on the team.

They're going to fist fucked to open 2017 if they don't address it. DJ won't be ready Week 1.

As for McCaffery, I'm wary over the fact that Stanford used the piss out of him and being and not having enough topend speed to get away from NFL Defenders. It also seems silly to drop a top pick on a back when Andy hates running the ball.

There will be better value where the Chiefs will actually end up drafting (earlier 20s because they gonna be one and done).

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's not about going into panic mode. DJ is in his mid 30's and was going to need to be replaced even if his Achilles didn't shread like Mozzarella. The ILB position right now is easily the weakest spot on the team.

They're going to fist fucked to open 2017 if they don't address it. DJ won't be ready Week 1.

As for McCaffery, I'm wary over the fact that Stanford used the piss out of him and being and not having enough topend speed to get away from NFL Defenders. It also seems silly to drop a top pick on a back when Andy hates running the ball.

There will be better value where the Chiefs will actually end up drafting (earlier 20s because they gonna be one and done).

Seems to me they should have been looking at this issue prior to the 2016 season. Why would you put yourself in a position where you may or may not have to accept less talent than you want because of poor planning?

And Andy would be wise to stop hating on running the ball. His "Air Smith" system has turned in to pure shit so unless he plans on replacing the signal-caller right quick, I'd be looking at some options for increasing my backfield productivity.

[BryanBusby]

Andy has always been a coach that wants to throw his running lanes open. The thing isn't Andy needs a first round RB, its they need to find a QB that doesn't suck.

Spending the top pick on Danny Woodhead Jr isn't the best choice. They need to find a new QB.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Andy has always been a coach that wants to throw his running lanes open. The thing isn't Andy needs a first round RB, its they need to find a QB that doesn't suck.

Spending the top pick on Danny Woodhead Jr isn't the best choice. They need to find a new QB.

Well if he wants a QB that doesn't suck, he's not going to find that item dumpster-diving in round 5.
Aw shucks, maybe they can just sign another "proven vet" that doesn't suck!

That'd be great.

[BryanBusby]

Well guess they'll have to spend some real currency on a QB. I don't agree with sacc that there's only one QB in this draft that fits what Andy is looking for.

I think there are multiple QB's.

[kccrow]

Well guess they'll have to spend some real currency on a QB. I don't agree with sacc that there's only one QB in this draft that fits what Andy is looking for.

I think there are multiple QB's.

A couple, but it all depends on the "who declares" bit right now.

I think Trubisky and Kizer are going top 10 if they both declare. Watson is a bit of a wild card and I don't like him that much as a pro prospect. Kid screams RG3 part 2 to me.

Rudolph is a bit like Foles - big, strong arm, smart, pretty mobile. I would bet he gets a look.

Davis Webb is a guy that maybe gets a look. Pretty good with reads, quick release. No howitzer, but he can make the throws with good touch. He's had an injury history, so he could come cheap.

Luke Falk, if he declares might be another one. Decent size, decent arm, decent release, good accuracy.

[GloucesterChief]

This years QB class is bad not as bad as 2013 but pretty damn bad. Also no McCaffery in the 1st round. Saw him get shut down last year and this year. He really doesn't have the power or frame to break tackles.

[BryanBusby]

A couple, but it all depends on the "who declares" bit right now.

I think Trubisky and Kizer are going top 10 if they both declare. Watson is a bit of a wild card and I don't like him that much as a pro prospect. Kid screams RG3 part 2 to me.

Rudolph is a bit like Foles - big, strong arm, smart, pretty mobile. I would bet he gets a look.

Davis Webb is a guy that maybe gets a look. Pretty good with reads, quick release. No howitzer, but he can make the throws with good touch. He's had an injury history, so he could come cheap.

Luke Falk, if he declares might be another one. Decent size, decent arm, decent release, good accuracy.
Mahomes is a guy that will interest Andy a lot, if he comes out.

Not all these dudes are gonna declare, but I expect a lot of them will.

[kcchiefsus]

Whatever move this team makes at quarterback you can be just about guaranteed it will be the wrong move.

[BryanBusby]

They made the right move by getting Alex to shore things up. The problem is they've relied on a below average QB for too long without having an actual succession plan in place.

I'd say that Dorsey and Reid know how to find a QB.

[kcchiefsus]

They made the right move by getting Alex to shore things up. The problem is they've relied on a below average QB for too long without having an actual succession plan in place.

I'd say that Dorsey and Reid know how to find a QB.

They've routinely missed out on guys like Carr, Bridgewater, and maybe even Paxton. We've stood pat while we've watched other teams, including possibly 2 in our own division if Paxton develops, solidify their starting QB position for a decade while we remain content with an average at best QB. I have no faith in whatever move they make at QB. I honestly expect to see an extension for Alex in the next year or so.

[BryanBusby]

Eh.

Bridgewater hasn't lit the league on fire exactly and they never actually had a shot at Paxton Lynch. Yeah passing on Carr was bad.

[Coogs]

This needs to be on the first page of the draft forum. Just because! :toast:

[kccrow]

This needs to be on the first page of the draft forum. Just because! :toast:

:clap:

:toast:

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

I want several of those picks to hit. Not because the players, but because Sac.

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[Halfcan]

1. Christian McCaffery, RB, Stanford: 6'2", 205 lb.

I don't want to hear the "we already have DeAnthony Thomas and Albert Wilson bullshit. Neither are factors in the offense or special teams. Thomas is a pipe dream and they still keep trying to put him on the field. Wilson continues to alligator arm every pass thrown in his direction.

They (Reid/Dorsey) obviously want this type of guy on the field, but as of right now, Tyreek Hill is the only one working out and he's not a true RB. McCaffery is and has operated out of Stanford's pro style offense.

And there can be no argument. He was, without question, the best college football player in 2015. The guy is an impact on the game and can literally bust open a game any time the ball is in his hands. Can just flat out play football versus just being an exciting gadget player. And with Charles future in serious question, the Chiefs do not have the explosion that Charles provided on the offensive side of the ball.

The only other guy I would consider here would be USC's CB Adoree Jackson, for the same reasons - can play multiple positions on the field, is successful doing all of them and does play a position that is needed on the Chiefs - a solid cover corner opposite Peters, but I'm not sure that Jackson fits the Dorsey matrix for that specific position, so, as such, the pick is McCaffery.

This guy dominated today- would look great in Red. Sac might end up being right.

[KChiefs1]

I feel sad reading this.

How about changing Draft Planet to Sac's Draft Room?


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