B-B-B-BUT Derek Carr is the best and the Chiefs are trash?

[Chief Northman]

Come choke down your CROW.

YOU ****ING KNOW WHO YOU ARE....

[WhawhaWhat]

I'd still take him over Dee Ford.

[LiveSteam]

Me so horney

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Wanna know how I know you're Tom Cash?

[OldSchool]

ROFL

[milkman]

I'd still take him over Dee Ford.

And Alex Smith

[Trivers]

And Alex Smith

ROFL

[threebag]

LMAO

He will have to wash it down with semen.

[Bwana]

Yeah He looked like the second coming of Joe Montana out there. :whackit:

[lewdog]

Why are you stuttering so much?

[Buehler445]

Suck it Faid.

[NWTF]

Come choke down your CROW.

YOU ****ING KNOW WHO YOU ARE....

Crow is served after a single regular season win? If you can serve crow after a win he can serve it up after a loss. It will be a back and forth crow serving fest between you two the rest of the season. And ultimately this team isnt winning it all so he would get to serve it to you last.

[scho63]

I'd still take him over Dee Ford.

Not for today.....:D

[Bugeater]

Clay loves all the attention you give him.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

MOAR YARDS

[FlaChief58]

We may have kicked the faid in their pussies today, but Carr is the real deal

[PunkinDrublic]

Clays been proven wrong time after time it's no big surprise.

[jjchieffan]

I don't really pay a lot of attention to Carr except when he's playing KC, but if he's such a great quarterback, then why couldn't he exploit our secondary today in the fourth quarter when we were down to our 3rd and 4th string corners? Seems like if he was all that, we shthave gotten toasted repeatedly.

[MeatRock]

Derek Carr is a top shelf QB, no doubt. The Chiefs ground game was too much. Crabtree was almost non-existant. All Carr had was Cooper, who put up great numbers today.

[Psyko Tek]

Clay loves all the attention you give him.

did he change names again?
could mods please lock his fickle ass down, go chiefs, goatse chiefs, LJ's ball washer
just make him pick one and stick

[NJChiefsFan]

Clay loves all the attention you give him.

Amazingly this continues to be lost on some people.

[Sandy Vagina]

Derek Carr is a top shelf QB, no doubt. The Chiefs ground game was too much. Crabtree was almost non-existant. All Carr had was Cooper, who put up great numbers today.

ballwashing the Faid QB.. WELL DONE! :facepalm:

[MeatRock]

ballwashing the Faid QB.. WELL DONE! :facepalm:

Go fuck yourself. Only scrotum licking going on here is your choad love for Alex Smith.

Stating Carr is a good QB is stating the truth. If you can't see that, then you've taken too many Smith facials in your eyes.

[PunkinDrublic]

I don't really pay a lot of attention to Carr except when he's playing KC, but if he's such a great quarterback, then why couldn't he exploit our secondary today in the fourth quarter when we were down to our 3rd and 4th string corners? Seems like if he was all that, we shthave gotten toasted repeatedly.

After that first TD drive I thought we were in for a long day. I want to say it was the field conditions that were affecting his play but then again Alex was able to convert some key 3rd down passes. It did seem like chokeland went away from what was working for them.

[Saccopoo]

did he change names again?
could mods please lock his fickle ass down, go chiefs, goatse chiefs, LJ's ball washer
just make him pick one and stick

Pam Oliver's Forehead was the best one.

[MeatRock]

Hey Sac. Been killing dudes in Mechwarrior any lately?

[kcxiv]

CHiefs are average. They had a decent Defensive game and great running game today.

Alex Smith is still Alex Smith, he's not going to get better.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

CHiefs are average. They had a decent Defensive game and great running game today.

Alex Smith is still Alex Smith, he's not going to get better.

If they are average...what are the Faid?

[Saccopoo]

Hey Sac. Been killing dudes in Mechwarrior any lately?

Oh yeah. I went old school and only running the Hunchies and Dragons.

[threebag]

19-22 passing a a fucking win

[Reerun_KC]

Carr is an ascending franchise QB and the chiefs have been irrelevant for 4 decades. Chiefs fans can be so stupid.

[MeatRock]

Oh yeah. I went old school and only running the Hunchies and Dragons.

Nice. I've been running Hunch IIC's alot lately. Bad ass mechs.

[OctoberFart]

You guys kicked are ass I'll give you that. This Raider defense is a freaking mess. On the bright side Peters still can't cover 89.

[Saccopoo]

Nice. I've been running Hunch IIC's alot lately. Bad ass mechs.

I might have to pull mine out of the garage. Haven't run them in a while. My fave is the IIC (O) with two CLB-10x's. and two CERMLs.

[Chief Northman]

Crow is served after a single regular season win? If you can serve crow after a win he can serve it up after a loss. It will be a back and forth crow serving fest between you two the rest of the season. And ultimately this team isnt winning it all so he would get to serve it to you last.

Who is this "he" you refer to?

These last two weeks featured threads with a lot of posters guaranteeing that the Chiefs are terrible and Carr would shred the Chiefs defense.

Raiders win = fence sitters and haters say "I told you so...."
Chiefs win = "Shut up homer, it is just one game"

31 teams lose the Superbowl you douche - that won't prevent me from having some loyalty to a team that has entertained me, driven me crazy with anger and disappointment, or bring some joy from time to time.

If you want to go sit on the fence, go ahead - just warning you that your asshole will eventually get impaled.

[Chief Northman]

Carr is an ascending franchise QB and the chiefs have been irrelevant for 4 decades. Chiefs fans can be so stupid.

As irrelevant as your posts.

[Bugeater]

Who is this "he" you refer to?

These last two weeks featured threads with a lot of posters guaranteeing that the Chiefs are terrible and Carr would shred the Chiefs defense.

Raiders win = fence sitters and haters say "I told you so...."
Chiefs win = "Shut up homer, it is just one game"

31 teams lose the Superbowl you douche - that won't prevent me from having some loyalty to a team that has entertained me, driven me crazy with anger and disappointment, or bring some joy from time to time.

If you want to go sit on the fence, go ahead - just warning you that your asshole will eventually get impaled.
Shut up homer, it is just one game

[Reerun_KC]

As irrelevant as your posts.
I would agree. 100%.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'm still standing in the same place I started:

Chiefs return to playoffs, get ass whipped by Big Rape.

[LoneWolf]

You guys kicked are ass I'll give you that. This Raider defense is a freaking mess. On the bright side Peters still can't cover 89.

Huh? How many catches did Cooper have when covered by Peters? I don't remember any.

[Chief Northman]

Shut up homer, it is just one game

ROFL

Kudos sir.

[Chief Northman]

I would agree. 100%.

Not hating on you - just questioning why you choose to dialogue Chiefs if you feel this way?

[temper11]

Derek Carr is a top shelf QB, no doubt. The Chiefs ground game was too much. Crabtree was almost non-existant. All Carr had was Cooper, who put up great numbers today.

Why did Carr only have cooper?

[Reerun_KC]

Not hating on you - just questioning why you choose to dialogue Chiefs if you feel this way?

Not worried, nothing to hate and you are correct. Carr is an ascending young player we could only dream of having while we're floundering around continuing the quest for mediocrity...

It's the chiefs way.

[MeatRock]

Why did Carr only have cooper?

Cooper was the only receiver getting clear separation and catching everything thrown his way. Figure of speech really.

[temper11]

Cooper was the only receiver getting clear separation and catching everything thrown his way. Figure of speech really.

So the play of others can have an effect on the QBs day?

[RunKC]

Clay sucks Derek's Carr's dick and trashes Dee Ford all week long and Carr looks pathetic while Dee Ford has 2 sacks today ROFL

How about that 0-6 stat he was peddling all week long over and over hour after hour?

Welp we won Clay.

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[NWTF]

Who is this "he" you refer to?

These last two weeks featured threads with a lot of posters guaranteeing that the Chiefs are terrible and Carr would shred the Chiefs defense.

Raiders win = fence sitters and haters say "I told you so...."
Chiefs win = "Shut up homer, it is just one game"

31 teams lose the Superbowl you douche - that won't prevent me from having some loyalty to a team that has entertained me, driven me crazy with anger and disappointment, or bring some joy from time to time.

If you want to go sit on the fence, go ahead - just warning you that your asshole will eventually get impaled.

Relax homer. Like you I also picked the Chiefs in this one.

[TimBone]

Pam Oliver's Forehead was the best one.
I think that was given to him be Phobia, too.

[lewdog]

Clay sucks Derek's Carr's dick and trashes Dee Ford all week long and Carr looks pathetic while Dee Ford has 2 sacks today ROFL


To be fair to Clay, he sucks so many dicks he forgets what dicks he's sucking.

[Ming the Merciless]

I would still take carr over Smith in a heartbeat

This is a great win. And Alex played a solid game, in shitty conditions..away.

But don't get ahead of yourself....

[Rasputin]

Carr is going get his I just hope it's not a SB with the Raiders that would absolutely piss me off .


They got to come to Arrowhead in December when the weather could be 10 degrees and snowing but who knows? The Raiders won't take this game lightly and Carr has a couple months before then to improve his game so I'm pretty leery of the Raiders just glad we beat them this time because that was a huge win.

I want Derek Carr to suck ass for the Raiders but I don't think he will and we will be facing him for years to come. Raiders can build around him that isn't the luxury the Chiefs have with Alex Smith because his abilities are limited with his age creeping up. He hasn't exactly done all that well himself for his career and Derek Carr is above his playing performance by a long shot his first couple seasons. 9ers were booing Alex Smith and wanted him benched for Kaepernick. So I think this thread is silly and pointless for just being too soon.

[Simply Red]

yeah - I had faith all along - it was Clay and InMen that were wrong per usual

[TimBone]

Did Clay get banned again? I predict he's making a Chiefs-Raiders vid as we speak.

[alanm]

You guys should know by now. That whatever Clay predicts bet the over/under, opposite of whatever his prediction is. Sure thing. :thumb::D

[Chief Northman]

Carr is going get his I just hope it's not a SB with the Raiders that would absolutely piss me off .


They got to come to Arrowhead in December when the weather could be 10 degrees and snowing but who knows? The Raiders won't take this game lightly and Carr has a couple months before then to improve his game so I'm pretty leery of the Raiders just glad we beat them this time because that was a huge win.

I want Derek Carr to suck ass for the Raiders but I don't think he will and we will be facing him for years to come. Raiders can build around him that isn't the luxury the Chiefs have with Alex Smith because his abilities are limited with his age creeping up. He hasn't exactly done all that well himself for his career and Derek Carr is above his playing performance by a long shot his first couple seasons. 9ers were booing Alex Smith and wanted him benched for Kaepernick. So I think this thread is silly and pointless for just being too soon.

Never said Carr is a bad qb, and in fact I think the Raiders are in good hands with him at the helm.

The thread was pointed at the many who rely on biased perceptions of the Chiefs shortcomings (some partially true) to ALWAYS rationalize the possibility of a loss, coupled with the usual "grass is greener" approach (Carr being best qb in division as an example).

A few old faithfuls we see each week leading up to games:
- Alex Smith/dink and dunk/won't throw downfield
- Need to draft a QBOTF
- Sutton can't adjust
- Andy is a terrible game manager, loves the horizontal pass game
- No pass rush, Hali washed up, Dee Ford sucks (I've said this....)
- We should have drafted ____________ instead

I have no issues being critical about the team, but the "easy" cop-outs to generalize the potential of failure by the Chiefs has become incessant and predictable around here for too long.

[temper11]

Never said Carr is a bad qb, and in fact I think the Raiders are in good hands with him at the helm.

The thread was pointed at the many who rely on biased perceptions of the Chiefs shortcomings (some partially true) to ALWAYS rationalize the possibility of a loss, coupled with the usual "grass is greener" approach (Carr being best qb in division as an example).

A few old faithfuls we see each week leading up to games:
- Alex Smith/dink and dunk/won't throw downfield
- Need to draft a QBOTF
- Sutton can't adjust
- Andy is a terrible game manager, loves the horizontal pass game
- No pass rush, Hali washed up, Dee Ford sucks (I've said this....)
- We should have drafted ____________ instead

I have no issues being critical about the team, but the "easy" cop-outs to generalize the potential of failure by the Chiefs has become incessant and predictable around here for too long.

Agreed... great post.

[RobBlake]

its one game noobies lol

Chiefs can still win divison.. i think Raiders are a competent defense away from actually being a superbowl threat. Denver has 8-8 written on them

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

We may have kicked the faid in their pussies today, but Carr is the real deal

Name one quality team that he's beaten during his career.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Derek Carr is a top shelf QB, no doubt. The Chiefs ground game was too much. Crabtree was almost non-existant. All Carr had was Cooper, who put up great numbers today.

What kind of Chiefs fan makes excuses for Carr and proclaims him as top shelf when he hasn't even shown productivity against a quality defense?

The idiocy is strong in this one.

[Rasputin]

Never said Carr is a bad qb, and in fact I think the Raiders are in good hands with him at the helm.

The thread was pointed at the many who rely on biased perceptions of the Chiefs shortcomings (some partially true) to ALWAYS rationalize the possibility of a loss, coupled with the usual "grass is greener" approach (Carr being best qb in division as an example).

A few old faithfuls we see each week leading up to games:
- Alex Smith/dink and dunk/won't throw downfield
- Need to draft a QBOTF
- Sutton can't adjust
- Andy is a terrible game manager, loves the horizontal pass game
- No pass rush, Hali washed up, Dee Ford sucks (I've said this....)
- We should have drafted ____________ instead

I have no issues being critical about the team, but the "easy" cop-outs to generalize the potential of failure by the Chiefs has become incessant and predictable around here for too long.

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It was one fucking game like others have said. We still have to play them in December and much can change by then. No one needs to eat crow because the jury is still out on the kid. How fucking stupid.

People have been longing for the Chiefs to draft a freaking fucking quarterback of the future and you find them best in the first round if possible but you pull the trigger to snag one because you can build a team for success around them on longevity. That's the whole flipping fucking idea of it and the concept of the draft.

HOLY SHIT BALLS.

Teams take chances on quarterbacks I only wish the Chiefs would have the balls to draft a quarterback like Derrick Carr. Didn't have to be him but a good prospect to get hopes that the Chiefs are serious about building a Super Bowl team.

[Anyong Bluth]

its one game noobies lol

Chiefs can still win divison.. i think Raiders are a competent defense away from actually being a superbowl threat. Denver has 8-8 written on them
So 1 team needs to replace A player, while the other needs to replace an entire unit, but the Chiefs are further away?

[Simply Red]

This thread is like a bunch of retarded children having a pudding fight in the dark. (or something like that)

[richpjr]

I just wanna know why Carr wears mascara???

[Chief Northman]

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It was one ****ing game like others have said. We still have to play them in December and much can change by then. No one needs to eat crow because the jury is still out on the kid. How ****ing stupid.

People have been longing for the Chiefs to draft a freaking ****ing quarterback of the future and you find them best in the first round if possible but you pull the trigger to snag one because you can build a team for success around them on longevity. That's the whole flipping ****ing idea of it and the concept of the draft.

HOLY SHIT BALLS.

Teams take chances on quarterbacks I only wish the Chiefs would have the balls to draft a quarterback like Derrick Carr. Didn't have to be him but a good prospect to get hopes that the Chiefs are serious about building a Super Bowl team.

You obviously can't read. I won't waste my time with your illiterate ass.

[TimBone]

Agreed... great post.


Never said Carr is a bad qb, and in fact I think the Raiders are in good hands with him at the helm.

The thread was pointed at the many who rely on biased perceptions of the Chiefs shortcomings (some partially true) to ALWAYS rationalize the possibility of a loss, coupled with the usual "grass is greener" approach (Carr being best qb in division as an example).

A few old faithfuls we see each week leading up to games:
- Alex Smith/dink and dunk/won't throw downfield
- Need to draft a QBOTF
- Sutton can't adjust
- Andy is a terrible game manager, loves the horizontal pass game
- No pass rush, Hali washed up, Dee Ford sucks (I've said this....)
- We should have drafted ____________ instead

I have no issues being critical about the team, but the "easy" cop-outs to generalize the potential of failure by the Chiefs has become incessant and predictable around here for too long.

No. It wasn't a great post. Most of the things being bitched about are still true.

Alex Smith does dink, he does dunk, he rarely throws down field with any accuracy, and he walks his bitch ass into quite a few unnecessary sacks.

We do need to draft a QBOTF...I'm not sure how there is any argument against that.

Andy makes terrible GameDay decisions at times. Wtf was with that challenge on Cooper's catch today? And let's not get started on his clock management.

Aside from Ford's sacks today. We have had problems with the pass rush this year. I don't think Hali is washed up, as he's been pressuring most of the year, but our pass rush is still lacking.

....and I'd still draft Carr over Ford, even after today. One Sunday does not change the performances of most other Sundays. Carr has shown that he has skills. Ford rarely shows up.

[Nickhead]

at this point in alex's career, aside from interceptions, carr will exceed everything smith ever achieved. or injury obviously. i love the chiefs, but alex has worn thin.

[In58men]

at this point in alex's career, aside from interceptions, carr will exceed everything smith ever achieved. or injury obviously. i love the chiefs, but alex has worn thin.

True. You can already see that Carr isn't limited like Smith. He has a very high ceiling, if they can establish the running game, Carr would be even better than what he is now.

[BlackHelicopters]

Please use the whole unlubricated fist.

[Rasputin]

No. It wasn't a great post. Most of the things being bitched about are still true.

Alex Smith does dink, he does dunk, he rarely throws down field with any accuracy, and he walks his bitch ass into quite a few unnecessary sacks.

We do need to draft a QBOTF...I'm not sure how there is any argument against that.

Andy makes terrible GameDay decisions at times. Wtf was with that challenge on Cooper's catch today? And let's not get started on his clock management.

Aside from Ford's sacks today. We have had problems with the pass rush this year. I don't think Hali is washed up, as he's been pressuring most of the year, but our pass rush is still lacking.

....and I'd still draft Carr over Ford, even after today. One Sunday does not change the performances of most other Sundays. Carr has shown that he has skills. Ford rarely shows up.

You obviously can't read. I won't waste my time with your illiterate ass.

Obviously I can read you stupid ignorant twat. TimBone is saying pretty much same thing I am maybe better articulately and he is a cool dude on the Planet.

[NWTF]

You obviously can't read. I won't waste my time with your illiterate ass.

Hey dude you made a dumb thread. Its way too early to be serving crow. You were probably drunk and overly excited over the win, but theres a long way to go.

[ChiefsCountry]

This thread is like a bunch of retarded children having a pudding fight in the dark. (or something like that)

A Tom Cash thread with BlackBob and the 49er trolls in it. Sounds about right.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

yeah - I had faith all along - it was Clay and InMen that were wrong per usual

Pasta and red right again? Shocking!

[stevieray]

....try to enjoy the win you whiny bastards.

[Simply Red]

Pasta and red right again? Shocking!

I just knew they'd be up for it!

....try to enjoy the win you whiny bastards.

Exactly!

[New World Order]

This thread is like a bunch of retarded children having a pudding fight in the dark. (or something like that)


And we want it no other way

[PAChiefsGuy]

True. You can already see that Carr isn't limited like Smith. He has a very high ceiling, if they can establish the running game, Carr would be even better than what he is now.

Stop making excuses. Carr looked like crap this game. He was absolute garbage and far worse than Alex.

Carr may put up nice stats but the guy has done absolutely nothing when it comes to winning so far in his career. He doesn't seem to play well in big games and against good opponents so until he does he is just stat padder to me.

I don't think he is that great.

It's a team game anyway. It's not Alex Smith vs Derek Carr. It's Chiefs vs Raiders. That's what I am concerned about.

Football is far more than the QB vs QB which is obvious because Peyton was crap last year and Broncos still won the SB and Marino (one of the greatest QBs of all-time) never won a single SB in his career.

[O.city]

I do like Carr, but it is a little interesting that he does seem to play bad against good teams.

[Hydrae]

Derek Carr is a top shelf QB, no doubt. The Chiefs ground game was too much. Crabtree was almost non-existant. All Carr had was Cooper, who put up great numbers today.

In the first half Cooper has 9 catches, one in the second half when they were behind and throwing the ball a lot. Don't what changed but that was a nice adjustment by Sutton evidently.

[temper11]

No. It wasn't a great post. Most of the things being bitched about are still true.

Alex Smith does dink, he does dunk, he rarely throws down field with any accuracy, and he walks his bitch ass into quite a few unnecessary sacks.

We do need to draft a QBOTF...I'm not sure how there is any argument against that.

Andy makes terrible GameDay decisions at times. Wtf was with that challenge on Cooper's catch today? And let's not get started on his clock management.

Aside from Ford's sacks today. We have had problems with the pass rush this year. I don't think Hali is washed up, as he's been pressuring most of the year, but our pass rush is still lacking.

....and I'd still draft Carr over Ford, even after today. One Sunday does not change the performances of most other Sundays. Carr has shown that he has skills. Ford rarely shows up.

Yes yes yes... dink and dunk, blah blah blah - everyone understands what everyone hates about Smith and his upsides are not sexy enough for most to accept his style of play. Fine, I am not going to argue that point any longer. We'll agree to disagree there.

What I was referring to as a great post was the following sentiment:

"I have no issues being critical about the team, but the "easy" cop-outs to generalize the potential of failure by the Chiefs has become incessant and predictable around here for too long."

[Dave Lane]

ballwashing the Faid QB.. WELL DONE! :facepalm:

Id trade Dee Ford and smith for him in a heartbeat

[Trivers]

Id trade Dee Ford and smith for him in a heartbeat

Glad that you are not Dorsey. :)

[Anyong Bluth]

Andy makes terrible GameDay decisions at times. Wtf was with that challenge on Cooper's catch today? And let's not get started on his clock management.



You misattributing the challenge call being on Andy. The booth upstairs looks at the replay and radios down to him. It was a terrible challenge. Clock management at the end of the 1st half was horrible and on him.

Hard to get too critical about a division win on the road to the 1st place team while the defense is on the hook for 7 and the offense held TOP for +13 minutes.

[threebag]

Obviously I can read you stupid ignorant twat. TimBone is saying pretty much same thing I am maybe better articulately and he is a cool dude on the Planet.

Can someone quote timbone please

[ChiefAshhole1056]

If you like Derek Carr, than you must like Andy Dalton too. Exact same guys. Purgatory QB's that will thrive against bad teams and suck against good ones. The stats they generate in the good games overshadow the shittiness they display when it matters.

[NWTF]

If you like Derek Carr, than you must like Andy Dalton too. Exact same guys. Purgatory QB's that will thrive against bad teams and suck against good ones. The stats they generate in the good games overshadow the shittiness they display when it matters.

If they are purgatory Qbs what is Alex Smith?

[jjchieffan]

If they are purgatory Qbs what is Alex Smith?

A winner

[RunKC]

If they are purgatory Qbs what is Alex Smith?

They both have bad coaches. We have an average at best QB with a top 10 coach.

So basically the same place when it all comes down to it

[threebag]

A winner

Hell Yeah

[Anyong Bluth]

Which is it? Fire Andy or Alex only wins because Andy is a top 10 coach?

[Simply Red]

If they are purgatory Qbs what is Alex Smith?

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[jjchieffan]

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[Nickhead]

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the only thing i don't like about that video is that its four years old, with no chiefs highlights. it exacerbates the theory while a chief he has lost that touch. :D

[threebag]

Nickhead is what i think the offspring of DrPepper and InMen would be like.

[Nickhead]

thats racist :D

[TimBone]

You misattributing the challenge call being on Andy. The booth upstairs looks at the replay and radios down to him. It was a terrible challenge. Clock management at the end of the 1st half was horrible and on him.

Hard to get too critical about a division win on the road to the 1st place team while the defense is on the hook for 7 and the offense held TOP for +13 minutes.
Yeah, you make a good point about the challenge call. I'll concede my argument, there. No denying that the dude makes some baffling decisions sometimes, though.

Also, I'm not critical at all about yesterday's win. I was very impressed. I had no faith.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

thats racist :D

Dane seems to really love you.

Congrats on that!

LMAO

[Nickhead]

Dane seems to really love you.

Congrats on that!

LMAO

must be my magnetic personality. i attract all sorts :D

[TimBone]

Can someone quote timbone please
lol...bitch.

[Simply Red]

the only thing i don't like about that video is that its four years old, with no chiefs highlights. it exacerbates the theory while a chief he has lost that touch. :D

It's timeless. Clutch Gene was right!

[In58men]

Stop making excuses. Carr looked like crap this game. He was absolute garbage and far worse than Alex.

Carr may put up nice stats but the guy has done absolutely nothing when it comes to winning so far in his career. He doesn't seem to play well in big games and against good opponents so until he does he is just stat padder to me.

I don't think he is that great.

It's a team game anyway. It's not Alex Smith vs Derek Carr. It's Chiefs vs Raiders. That's what I am concerned about.

Football is far more than the QB vs QB which is obvious because Peyton was crap last year and Broncos still won the SB and Marino (one of the greatest QBs of all-time) never won a single SB in his career.

Mr. PAChiefsaguy, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having to read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[jjchieffan]

Mr. PAChiefsaguy, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having to read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I disagree completely. He stated his opinion. He explained it, and used real life examples to back it up. It was easy to read and made sense. He didn't ramble, and t was not incoherent. If you disagree, fine. Pull up Carr's stats and prove your point. But your attack on his post is invalid. Yours, on the other hand, sucks.

[TimBone]

Mr. PAChiefsaguy, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having to read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It would be very fitting if the admins made a bot that auto-responded to every post of yours with this.

[Tribal Warfare]

Hell Yeah

LOL, and what was his results in the Texans/Steelers game.Alex is average, if there's constant

peaks and valleys in his play dating back to the beginning of his career he's the very definition of mediocre

[In58men]

It would be very fitting if the admins made a bot that auto-responded to every post of yours with this.

Are you mad because I've been right about the Chiefs all year?

[In58men]

I disagree completely. He stated his opinion. He explained it, and used real life examples to back it up. It was easy to read and made sense. He didn't ramble, and t was not incoherent. If you disagree, fine. Pull up Carr's stats and prove your point. But your attack on his post is invalid. Yours, on the other hand, sucks.

You must think highly of Smith

[stevieray]

....whiners.

[In58men]

....whiners.

We're just wanting the best for the team. Carr provides.

[RobBlake]

So 1 team needs to replace A player, while the other needs to replace an entire unit, but the Chiefs are further away?

I didn't mean to infer the Chiefs are further away.. I do think Raiders have a chance to challenge the division, but I feel Chiefs should take the division when operating on all cylinders

[stevieray]

We're just wanting the best for the team. Carr provides.

BS.

"Geee, if I just would've married that other girl, my life would be so much better"

You're living in la la land.

[jjchieffan]

You must think highly of Smith

I don't think that he is elite. But I do think that he is a good quarterback and that we could do much worse. But my post had nothing to do with that. You attacked another post calling it incoherent rambling when it in fact was neither. You disagreed with his opinion because you are a Smith hater.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I don't care what anyone says, this shit is funny every...single...year.

LMAO

[In58men]

I don't think that he is elite. But I do think that he is a good quarterback and that we could do much worse. But my post had nothing to do with that. You attacked another post calling it incoherent rambling when it in fact was neither. You disagreed with his opinion because you are a Smith hater.

It was suppose to be somewhat comical since it was a quote from Billy Madison. I don't see how anybody would take Smith over Carr. Good QBs make bad WRs look good. He's getting the best out of Crabtree. Maclin dropped big time in production with Smith. He would be a different WR if we had Carr, no doubt about it.

For the record, Carr is FAR from being elite.

[jjchieffan]

We're just wanting the best for the team. Carr provides.

Everybody wants the best for the team. But Smith is here and right now he is what's best for this team. He's the starter. He's winning consistently and got us our first playoff win in a quarter century. Would it have been nice if the Chiefs had drafted Carr? Yes. But we didn't. Why just whine and complain about it? Carr is still young and unproven. He may get better than Smith. but right now, he's not. The poster made a valid point that Carr hasn't been able to beat good teams. But you don't want to acknowledge that. He is a young quarterback drafted by another team and he's not Smith. That's all that matters to you, Clay, and Dagnabit.

[MeatRock]

I am not an Alex Smith hater. In fact, i think Smith is an average QB that can make some nice throws on occasion.
My point is this, Carr has a great arm, is young and is ascending.
Would i rather have Carr over Dee Ford? Absolutely!
That shit isn't happening so I deal with Alex Smith and Dee Ford. This doesn't mean I can't point out good ascending QB's when i see them.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It was suppose to be somewhat comical since it was a quote from Billy Madison. I don't see how anybody would take Smith over Carr. Good QBs make bad WRs look good. He's getting the best out of Crabtree. Maclin dropped big time in production with Smith. He would be a different WR if we had Carr, no doubt about it.

For the record, Carr is FAR from being elite.

Production and efficiency are two very separate things, with the latter a better indicator of the usage of a particular player.

Maclin's reception rate increased from 60% to 70% with Smith (the highest of his career), and on 20 less looks his # of TD's only went down by 2 (From 10 to 8).

[Reerun_KC]

Same here.

[TimBone]

BS.

"Geee, if I just would've married that other girl, my life would be so much better"

You're living in la la land.
I'd take Carr over Ford from that draft simply because of the impact of the QB position and the upside of Carr.

I wasn't a fan of the Ford pick at the time, and I'm still not happy with the pick now, but I'm rooting for him.

[stevieray]

He's getting the best out of Crabtree. .

Especially yesterday.

hoo boy!

[stevieray]

I'd take Carr over Ford from that draft simply because of the impact of the QB position and the upside of Carr.
.

That seems nice, but still irrelvant.

[jjchieffan]

It was suppose to be somewhat comical since it was a quote from Billy Madison. I don't see how anybody would take Smith over Carr. Good QBs make bad WRs look good. He's getting the best out of Crabtree. Maclin dropped big time in production with Smith. He would be a different WR if we had Carr, no doubt about it.

For the record, Carr is FAR from being elite.

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?

[Que Card QB]

the only thing i don't like about that video is that its four years old, with no chiefs highlights. it exacerbates the theory while a chief he has lost that touch. :DGot to have receivers and protection. Hasn't had any recievers for the first few years of his career here. Maclin is the first receiver he's had since coming to the Chiefs that can give him that when the Oline holds up. Sunday was perfect example of good protection, good running game, and deep receivers. He had two beautiful deep passes.

[SAUTO]

at this point in alex's career, aside from interceptions, carr will exceed everything smith ever achieved. or injury obviously. i love the chiefs, but alex has worn thin.

He's gonna throw more ints too

[Ming the Merciless]

I don't care what anyone says, this shit is funny every...single...year.

LMAO

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[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Everybody wants the best for the team. But Smith is here and right now he is what's best for this team. He's the starter. He's winning consistently and got us our first playoff win in a quarter century. Would it have been nice if the Chiefs had drafted Carr? Yes. But we didn't. Why just whine and complain about it? Carr is still young and unproven. He may get better than Smith. but right now, he's not. The poster made a valid point that Carr hasn't been able to beat good teams. But you don't want to acknowledge that. He is a young quarterback drafted by another team and he's not Smith. That's all that matters to you, Clay, and Dagnabit.

I have to disagree. His decision making against good teams has cost them a lot of games. Carr is not the right fit for our win-now situation as our vets are aging. If we were in rebuild mode then sure making a move for Carr 3 years ago would have made sense but we had far too much talent on our roster to risk letting a rookie run the show.

Only Russell Wilson has been successful at being the day 1 starter right out of draft day and having consistent success of any QB we've seen over the last 10 years+, his maturity and talent are on a whole different level from Carr/Wentz/Luck/Newton/Bridgewater/Mariota

[jjchieffan]

I am not an Alex Smith hater. In fact, i think Smith is an average QB that can make some nice throws on occasion.
My point is this, Carr has a great arm, is young and is ascending.
Would i rather have Carr over Dee Ford? Absolutely!
That shit isn't happening so I deal with Alex Smith and Dee Ford. This doesn't mean I can't point out good ascending QB's when i see them.

That's fine. I wanted Carr over Ford too. But that's a far cry from what the haters do. Looking for every opportunity to bash Smith and talk about how much better some other quarterback is. Clay has praised Hoyer, Fitzpatrick, Semen, Carr, etc... Saying how much better they are than Smith. Week after week after week. And we all get sick of hearing it. Especially when he is wrong and he knows it, but he continues to spew it just to troll the site.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?

Yup and that's considering he's operating in an offense that has a run first mentality.

Easily one of the most efficient receivers last season. Not highly explosive, but his impact on the offense's success was second to none for us last season.

[In58men]

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?

WR 3 in fantasy football

[MeatRock]

That's fine. I wanted Carr over Ford too. But that's a far cry from what the haters do. Looking for every opportunity to bash Smith and talk about how much better some other quarterback is. Clay has praised Hoyer, Fitzpatrick, Semen, Carr, etc... Saying how much better they are than Smith. Week after week after week. And we all get sick of hearing it. Especially when he is wrong and he knows it, but he continues to spew it just to troll the site.

Believe me, i know all about what Clay, Sweet Dick Willy/Dagnabit/ROR and other dickwads are spewin.

[Ming the Merciless]

I have to disagree. His decision making against good teams has cost them a lot of games. Carr is not the right fit for our win-now situation as our vets are aging. If we were in rebuild mode then sure making a move for Carr 3 years ago would have made sense but we had far too much talent on our roster to risk letting a rookie run the show.


This is a fair point. The thing is, there are plenty of people who think the 'win now' idea was a deception based on selling the fans that we had a chance to win a ring now...which many feel is/was not true.

Thus I think many of us would have preferred to start rebuilding with a pick like carr, instead of pretending we could go all the way with alex...and selling seats.

The organization was in free fall / rebellion..seats were not selling for the 1st time since I can remember after winning like 8 games in 3 seasons......and then the cassel debacle.

I completely understand that we needed to win some games now and stop the bleeding, financially...and sell some seats. I get that. I just personally feel it would have been worth the risk to let a rookie 'run the show' for the reward it could have paid off in the future...

Whatever slim chances we have to make any real waves in the playoffs since we traded for him in 2013 are fading rapidly...so in a sense there are 2 pespectives here:

1) He has done his job, stabilized the franchise and prevented a full blown exodus or 'paper bag head' syndrome and broken the 93 playoff curse.

2) its possible we mortgaged away a little (or more) of our present and future by trading for him and contiuing to act as if we can go all the way with him at QB.


I personally dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging the truths about the scenario....and the pros and cons of it all. Every decision has pros and cons. If it turns out we don't do much in the playoffs, ever with smith.....then I think it will be undeniable what the pros and cons are.

[Nickhead]

He's gonna their more ints too

at this point in alex's career, aside from interceptions, carr will exceed everything smith ever achieved. or injury obviously. i love the chiefs, but alex has worn thin.

i do think i covered that aspect :D

[TimBone]

That seems nice, but still irrelvant.
I completely agree that it is...but that seems to be the big argument around here.

Like I said, Ford is here, and I'm rooting for him.

[TimBone]

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?
Inmen is an idiot. Even when he has a valid point, he still somehow makes it sound stupid.

[jjchieffan]

I have to disagree. His decision making against good teams has cost them a lot of games. Carr is not the right fit for our win-now situation as our vets are aging. If we were in rebuild mode then sure making a move for Carr 3 years ago would have made sense but we had far too much talent on our roster to risk letting a rookie run the show.

Only Russell Wilson has been successful at being the day 1 starter right out of draft day and having consistent success of any QB we've seen over the last 10 years+, his maturity and talent are on a whole different level from Carr/Wentz/Luck/Newton/Bridgewater/Mariota

Nah. Carr would've been a good choice regardless. If we didn't choose to start him immediately, then he could've sat behind Smith ala Rodgers sitting behind Favre for a few years. Andy is good with quarterbacks and may have had Carr starting by now for us. Not to mention, he wouldn't be a Faider.

[Anyong Bluth]

I. Good QBs make bad WRs look good. He's getting the best out of Crabtree. Maclin dropped big time in production with Smith. He would be a different WR if we had Carr, no doubt about it.

For the record, Carr is FAR from being elite.

Oakland doesn't have bad wrs, so that doesn't translate into a + for Carr.

[SAUTO]

We're just wanting the best for the team. Carr provides.

ROFL just like yesterday?

[Anyong Bluth]

WR 3 in fantasy football
You fucking kidding me? Your proof is FF. Your extra chromosome help you deduce that nugget of truth?

[jjchieffan]

WR 3 in fantasy football

Because FF is relevant to actual football.

[vailpass]

Production and efficiency are two very separate things, with the latter a better indicator of the usage of a particular player.

Maclin's reception rate increased from 60% to 70% with Smith (the highest of his career), and on 20 less looks his # of TD's only went down by 2 (From 10 to 8).

So having a 400 yard receiver with a reception rate of 80 is better than having a 1400 yard receiver with a 60 percent rate?

[Sandy Vagina]

A winner

On this note and fyi, 3 more wins for Smith and he surpasses Green to become the KC #1 QB to have amassed the most wins (35) in his first 4 years as a Chief.

Not that it means everything, that he's better than Trent, or doesn't have his annoying issues some games. Just saying...

[Ming the Merciless]

i remember that 2003 playoff loss

well

the feeling anyway...I think I blocked the game out of my mind

[In58men]

Because FF is relevant to actual football.

In fantasy football you usually want to play the ones who can produce and still find the end zone

[MeatRock]

This is a fair point. The thing is, there are plenty of people who think the 'win now' idea was a deception based on selling the fans that we had a chance to win a ring now...which many feel is/was not true.

Thus I think many of us would have preferred to start rebuilding with a pick like carr, instead of pretending we could go all the way with alex...and selling seats.

The organization was in free fall / rebellion..seats were not selling for the 1st time since I can remember after winning like 8 games in 3 seasons......and then the cassel debacle.

I completely understand that we needed to win some games now and stop the bleeding, financially...and sell some seats. I get that. I just personally feel it would have been worth the risk to let a rookie 'run the show' for the reward it could have paid off in the future...

Whatever slim chances we have to make any real waves in the playoffs since we traded for him in 2013 are fading rapidly...so in a sense there are 2 pespectives here:

1) He has done his job, stabilized the franchise and prevented a full blown exodus or 'paper bag head' syndrome and broken the 93 playoff curse.

2) its possible we mortgaged away a little (or more) of our present and future by trading for him and contiuing to act as if we can go all the way with him at QB.


I personally dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging the truths about the scenario....and the pros and cons of it all. Every decision has pros and cons. If it turns out we don't do much in the playoffs, ever with smith.....then I think it will be undeniable what the pros and cons are.

^ This. All day long.

[MeatRock]

On this note and fyi, 3 more wins for Smith and he surpasses Green to become the KC #1 QB to have amassed the most wins (35) in his first 4 years as a Chief.

Not that it means everything, that he's better than Trent, or doesn't have his annoying issues some games. Just saying...

:rolleyes:

[temper11]

Production and efficiency are two very separate things, with the latter a better indicator of the usage of a particular player.

Maclin's reception rate increased from 60% to 70% with Smith (the highest of his career), and on 20 less looks his # of TD's only went down by 2 (From 10 to 8).

This. Also scheme plays a role. Build a modest lead, and go conservative on offense. Game after game after game. Maclin has to build his stats in the first 3 quarters because in most of these wins, the Chiefs offense is on ice, for all intents and purposes, in the 4th.

[dls6501]

This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.

[In58men]

This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.

Exactly.

Not the entire draft though. We still need our 6th pick for a QB. We're still trying to find the next Brady.

[Saccopoo]

This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.

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[Sandy Vagina]

Exactly.

Not the entire draft though. We still need our 6th pick for a QB. We're still trying to find the next Brady.

What's stupid is crying like bitches day after day about KC not having drafted this or that exciting young QB to develop.

We get it.. and even I approve of KC doing what you all are crying about.

It has not happened yet. Get over it. Pull your big boy pants up tight, and wipe your ****ing tears already. Deal with what is, and stop sniveling over what could have been. JFC, buncha babies.

[MeatRock]

What's stupid is crying like bitches day after day about KC not having drafted this or that exciting young QB to develop.

We get it.. and even I approve of KC doing what you all are crying about.

It has not happened yet. Get over it. Pull your big boy pants up tight, and wipe your ****ing tears already. Deal with what is, and stop sniveling over what could have been. JFC, buncha babies.

STFU, seriously. If you don't like it, then leave. Simple as that.

[In58men]

What's stupid is crying like bitches day after day about KC not having drafted this or that exciting young QB to develop.

We get it.. and even I approve of KC doing what you all are crying about.

It has not happened yet. Get over it. Pull your big boy pants up tight, and wipe your ****ing tears already. Deal with what is, and stop sniveling over what could have been. JFC, buncha babies.

I'm not crying at all. I'm just saying Carr is better than Alex. He hasn't even peaked yet.

[New World Order]

On this note and fyi, 3 more wins for Smith and he surpasses Green to become the KC #1 QB to have amassed the most wins (35) in his first 4 years as a Chief.

Not that it means everything, that he's better than Trent, or doesn't have his annoying issues some games. Just saying...


And he won all of those games by scoring points.

[Ming the Merciless]

What's stupid is crying like bitches day after day about KC not having drafted this or that exciting young QB to develop.

We get it.. and even I approve of KC doing what you all are crying about.

It has not happened yet. Get over it. Pull your big boy pants up tight, and wipe your ****ing tears already. Deal with what is, and stop sniveling over what could have been. JFC, buncha babies.

So basically you are asking fans to:

1) stop discussing things that they would like to see happen
2) stop discussing things that might have happened (alternate scenarios)
3) stop discussing ways to make improvements
4) stop discussing things that frustrate them
5) only talk about what they are happy about
6) express only praise and not criticize the team
7) not discuss any future beyond ALex Smith

and

8) breaking any of these rules means we are sniveling or crying or not fans...


Did I miss anything?


and yet meanwhile you talk shit about jamaal charles on game day because that is somehow supporting alex smith?

Is this correct? May I ask what is left to talk about , on a football discussion board then?

Shall we just suck each others dicks all day?

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[TimBone]

So basically you are asking fans to:

1) stop discussing things that they would like to see happen
2) stop discussing things that might have happened (alternate scenarios)
3) stop discussing ways to make improvements
4) stop discussing things that frustrate them
5) only talk about what they are happy about
6) express only praise and not criticize the team
7) not discuss any future beyond ALex Smith

and

8) breaking any of these rules means we are sniveling or crying or not fans...


Did I miss anything?


and yet meanwhile you talk shit about jamaal charles on game day because that is somehow supporting alex smith?

Is this correct? May I ask what is left to talk about , on a football discussion board then?

Shall we just suck each others dicks all day?

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*unzips pants*

[Sandy Vagina]

So basically you are asking fans to:


Oh, wipe out your vag, and stop with the drama. You know exactly the posts I refer to, so you are a coward to play this so coy.

We ALL know there are some here that cry incessantly for what could have been. That is the pathetic I refer to.

[In58men]

Oh, wipe out your vag, and stop with the drama. You know exactly the posts I refer to, so you are a coward to play this so coy.

We ALL know there are some here that cry incessantly for what could have been. That is the pathetic I refer to.

We're not allowed to want other players?

[Sandy Vagina]

We're not allowed to want other players?

oh good Lord, do what you want. No one's ever stopped you from doing what you do, and I sure can't either. My comments on this are just to point out that you that do this look like little pouting kids that can't get over little Tommy from next door getting a bike that you wanted. Boo. ****ing. Hoo.

Maybe next time... and I HOPE that they do take drafting a QB more seriously in the next Draft.

[Ming the Merciless]

You know exactly the posts I refer to,



not really....theres no one on this site that I truly would want banned ....or to not post ...I'm actually OK with everyone deciding for themselves what entertains them or who bothers them.

I think all people should handle things like I am right now. Shaming and shining the light of truth on people that are idiots.

[MeatRock]

oh good Lord, do what you want. No one's ever stopped you from doing what you do, and I sure can't either. My comments on this are just to point out that you that do this look like little pouting kids that can't get over little Tommy from next door getting a bike that you wanted. Boo. ****ing. Hoo.

Maybe next time... and I HOPE that they do take drafting a QB more seriously in the next Draft.

MELTDOWN in 3.2.1....GO!!!!

[Dinny Bossa Nova]

Here you go, ladies.

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[Ming the Merciless]

I HOPE that they do take drafting a QB more seriously in the next Draft.

Well so do I .

The only difference is I am a fan of the team and have been for my entire life...so I have had this same thought every year since I was a teenager.

I have-

gotten laid for the 1st time
gotten my 1st car
moved out of my parents house into my own apartment
graduated high school
& college
received a graduate degree
bought my 1st home
gotten married
had kids
bought my second home/investment property
started a business
watched my wife get a graduate degree
traveled to over a dozen countries
had all of my grandparents die
my dad (die hard chiefs fan) died


all with having the same exact thought every year more or less...

so **** you that you just now came to that conclusion ..some of us have been fans for a long time

[temper11]

So having a 400 yard receiver with a reception rate of 80 is better than having a 1400 yard receiver with a 60 percent rate?

400 yard receiver? Who are you talking about?

[jjchieffan]

This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.

I have seen some stupid posts on here, but this one may just be the dumbest ever. And that's saying something because there have been some really crazy posts on this site. Giving up an entire draft plus a top 15 starting quarterback for a still unproven Carr?? It would be foolish to give that much for anyone short of Brady in his prime and I'm not sure that even that would be a wise idea. Ditka doing it for Ricky Williams sure didn't end well. :facepalm::facepalm: You get 2 facepalms because 1 just isn't enough.

[Saccopoo]

I'm not crying at all. I'm just saying Carr is better than Alex. He hasn't even peaked yet.

Not on Sunday he wasn't.

Smith's QBR: 87.4
Carr's QBR: 36.1

Smith is also 4-1 in head to head matchups against Carr.

In those five games:

Att/Completions:
Smith - 178/106
Carr - 206/119

Yards:
Smith - 1073
Carr - 1098

YPC:
Smith - 10.12
Carr - 9.22

TDs:
Smith - 8
Carr - 5

Ints:
Smith - 2
Carr - 4

Rushing Attempts:
Smith - 22
Carr - 9

Rushing Yards:
Smith - 105
Carr - 28

Rushing TDs:
Smith - 1
Carr - 0

The only place that Carr is better than Smith is in your mind, because in their head to head matchups, it's not even remotely close.

[RobBlake]

Not fair comparison. KCS defense is miles above oaklands

[TimBone]

Why would you compare their head to head matchups, Sac? It's not like they're on the field together actually playing against each other. Wouldn't comparing their numbers versus similar defenses be a more accurate comparison?

[Saccopoo]

Not fair comparison. KCS defense is miles above oaklands

I've heard around here that the better QB is able to elevate his team.

[Saccopoo]

Why would you compare their head to head matchups, Sac? It's not like they're on the field together actually playing against each other. Wouldn't comparing their numbers versus similar defenses be a more accurate comparison?

They are playing against each other. One QB's team versus the other. The leadership question has to be addressed at that point as well. Those interconference games matter. e.g., yesterday was a huge game for both teams.

You rally around your guy.

Smith has the better numbers and better WL against Carr head to head.

Going against common opponents in 2014, Smith has a better record. Same with 2015. I haven't done the small numbers on their common opponents, but just looking at it from a cursory standpoint, Smith seems to have better numbers as well.

The end of this season should be a bit more telling. Year three for Carr, the Raiders have a much better defense with guys like Irvin, Smith, Mack, etc.

[The Bad Guy]

Not on Sunday he wasn't.

Smith's QBR: 87.4
Carr's QBR: 36.1

Smith is also 4-1 in head to head matchups against Carr.

In those five games:

Att/Completions:
Smith - 178/106
Carr - 206/119

Yards:
Smith - 1073
Carr - 1098

YPC:
Smith - 10.12
Carr - 9.22

TDs:
Smith - 8
Carr - 5

Ints:
Smith - 2
Carr - 4

Rushing Attempts:
Smith - 22
Carr - 9

Rushing Yards:
Smith - 105
Carr - 28

Rushing TDs:
Smith - 1
Carr - 0

The only place that Carr is better than Smith is in your mind, because in their head to head matchups, it's not even remotely close.

Glad to see you posting. Hope you're doing great.

[The Bad Guy]

Honestly, it's the same whiny fuckers year after year after year. They all lack the ability to diagnose any play in Madden, and the QBs they've wanted for this team in the draft have blown and blown hard.

I don't know why any of you engage them. They can't even be happy after wins.

Fuck them all.

[Nickhead]

only problem is the chiefs don't play the raiders 16 times a season. on that note, each division should play the same teams each year. like the afc west must all play the steelers. wasn't it like that back in the day? and you didn't face them again for like three years? :D

[Chief Northman]

Obviously I can read you stupid ignorant twat. TimBone is saying pretty much same thing I am maybe better articulately and he is a cool dude on the Planet.

Wrong again. And quit sucking up.

I said clearly that many of the cited Chiefs flaws are partially true. To continually make the "go-to" generalizations about perceived shortcomings of the franchise however is lazy and fickle.

For two weeks since the Pittsburgh game a lot of people shit all over this team and were bold with doomsday predictions. Trust me, the Chiefs deserve criticism for how unprepared they looked in Houston and Pittsburgh. The whole point of the thread was to call those out who take the easy road and rely on the standard "Chiefs shit-talk" to leverage against another potential Chiefs loss.

If people talk of Reid's record after the bye, his overall w/l record in KC over two seasons and two playoff appearances, Smith's record vs. Oakland, etc., then you are just a homer and your rationale as to why the Chiefs might actually win is minimized or outlandish.

Funny how shit works around here. I could give a fuck if my views align with the loudest of Chiefsplanet.....

[jjchieffan]

only problem is the chiefs don't play the raiders 16 times a season. on that note, each division should play the same teams each year. like the afc west must all play the steelers. wasn't it like that back in the day? and you didn't face them again for like three years? :D

They do face the same teams....as much as possible. Everyone in the division plays each other twice (6), the same AFC division(4), and the same NFC division (4). So we all play the AFC South and the NFC South. That's 14 of 16 games scheduled the same. The remaining 2 are played against the team in the remaining 2 divisions in the conference that finished in the same place in their division last year. Strength of schedule play. So last year we finished 2nd in the division as did the Steelers and the Jets, so we play them this year. The Donks won the division,, so they play Cinci and New England. and so on.

[Chief Northman]

This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.

Another illiterate dummy.

Re-read the original post.
Where does it indicate Carr is a bad qb?

Many over the last two weeks told me the reason the Chiefs had no chance against the Raiders was because of Derek Carr and the Raider offense.

So, now what? Chiefs can't get any credit for maybe actually being a good team?
God forbid.

[Chief Northman]

They are playing against each other. One QB's team versus the other. The leadership question has to be addressed at that point as well. Those interconference games matter. e.g., yesterday was a huge game for both teams.

You rally around your guy.

Smith has the better numbers and better WL against Carr head to head.

Going against common opponents in 2014, Smith has a better record. Same with 2015. I haven't done the small numbers on their common opponents, but just looking at it from a cursory standpoint, Smith seems to have better numbers as well.

The end of this season should be a bit more telling. Year three for Carr, the Raiders have a much better defense with guys like Irvin, Smith, Mack, etc.

How dare you bring facts into this conversation.

[threebag]

On this note and fyi, 3 more wins for Smith and he surpasses Green to become the KC #1 QB to have amassed the most wins (35) in his first 4 years as a Chief.

Not that it means everything, that he's better than Trent, or doesn't have his annoying issues some games. Just saying...

Imagine Alex with that line.

[threebag]

Not fair comparison. KCS defense is miles above oaklands

Just fucking LMAO

[In58men]

Not on Sunday he wasn't.

Smith's QBR: 87.4
Carr's QBR: 36.1

Smith is also 4-1 in head to head matchups against Carr.

In those five games:

Att/Completions:
Smith - 178/106
Carr - 206/119

Yards:
Smith - 1073
Carr - 1098

YPC:
Smith - 10.12
Carr - 9.22

TDs:
Smith - 8
Carr - 5

Ints:
Smith - 2
Carr - 4

Rushing Attempts:
Smith - 22
Carr - 9

Rushing Yards:
Smith - 105
Carr - 28

Rushing TDs:
Smith - 1
Carr - 0

The only place that Carr is better than Smith is in your mind, because in their head to head matchups, it's not even remotely close.

How many years does Smith have on Carr? Also, these stats are pretty damn close. It's pretty sad. ROFL

[Rasputin]

Everyone has an asshole and everyone has an opinion.

Coincidence?

[New World Order]

They are playing against each other. One QB's team versus the other. The leadership question has to be addressed at that point as well. Those interconference games matter. e.g., yesterday was a huge game for both teams.

You rally around your guy.

Smith has the better numbers and better WL against Carr head to head.

Going against common opponents in 2014, Smith has a better record. Same with 2015. I haven't done the small numbers on their common opponents, but just looking at it from a cursory standpoint, Smith seems to have better numbers as well.

The end of this season should be a bit more telling. Year three for Carr, the Raiders have a much better defense with guys like Irvin, Smith, Mack, etc.


Sacc how are you feeling?

[Nickhead]

They do face the same teams....as much as possible. Everyone in the division plays each other twice (6), the same AFC division(4), and the same NFC division (4). So we all play the AFC South and the NFC South. That's 14 of 16 games scheduled the same. The remaining 2 are played against the team in the remaining 2 divisions in the conference that finished in the same place in their division last year. Strength of schedule play. So last year we finished 2nd in the division as did the Steelers and the Jets, so we play them this year. The Donks won the division,, so they play Cinci and New England. and so on.

this was the part i was not getting... why afc west did not play pittsburg... now it makes sense. thanks :D

[BroncoDork]

That was a solid looking Division victory on the road for the Chiefs, Oakland barely competed. Congrats.

[Saccopoo]

How many years does Smith have on Carr? Also, these stats are pretty damn close. It's pretty sad. ROFL

As I stated, this will be a more telling year from a comparative analysis. Oakland's interior offensive line is superb, they have a very good receiving corps and their defense is good on paper (i.e., Mack, Irvin, Smith, Amerson, etc.) And Carr is a very good young quarterback at the mid point of year three.

I'm not sure how you extrapolate "it's pretty sad roflcopter lolololol" when Smith has been statistically better than Carr in their head to head matchups and has a 4-1 win/loss advantage over him.

Smith has been better the last three seasons. Not exponentially so, but he has been better.

[Anyong Bluth]

https://youtu.be/CxQA2znHiDo

[temper11]

https://youtu.be/CxQA2znHiDo

That was well said... guess thats why he has one of them TV shows.

[Nickhead]

i am always hoping alex would break his 'MO', even for one season. i have said sometimes he borders on cassel like, but in reality he's never been close. but, he's never been close to the top five of the league either. we all have faith in alex which is more than you can ask from a fan. but you have to deliver. not just occasionally. that said on the flip side, brees keeps breaking records, but whats he got to show.

i don't fucking know anymore :D

[Sandy Vagina]

How many years does Smith have on Carr? Also, these stats are pretty damn close. It's pretty sad. ROFL

In the context of "who is the better QB right now" which so many are talking about.. the answer to your question does not matter.

Some of Alex's problems to date are BECAUSE of all the terrible years/teams of many years ago. So those years are more a detriment than benefit.

Carr comes in as this young and excited kid ready to roll.. now.. but maybe over time, he fizzles. Maybe his great OL loses talent... maybe his WR1/2 combo gets injured or disbanded. Maybe defenses evolve into figuring his tendencies out more and shut him down. Who knows? It's happened to others.


I don't even care about the argument of which QB is better. Neither is so far above the other where it really matters in this team sport. When talking about the now though.. Smith is better for this KC - don't screw up - win now team. We just saw what happens when a QB forces shit throws and has desperation run fumblitis on the few snaps where he actually faced pressure. Imagine Carr behind the KC line that's still so much a project.

[Reerun_KC]

i am always hoping alex would break his 'MO', even for one season. i have said sometimes he borders on cassel like, but in reality he's never been close. but, he's never been close to the top five of the league either. we all have faith in alex which is more than you can ask from a fan. but you have to deliver. not just occasionally. that said on the flip side, brees keeps breaking records, but whats he got to show.

i don't ****ing know anymore :D
Brees has a superbowl championship.....

[milkman]

I have to disagree. His decision making against good teams has cost them a lot of games. Carr is not the right fit for our win-now situation as our vets are aging. If we were in rebuild mode then sure making a move for Carr 3 years ago would have made sense but we had far too much talent on our roster to risk letting a rookie run the show.

Only Russell Wilson has been successful at being the day 1 starter right out of draft day and having consistent success of any QB we've seen over the last 10 years+, his maturity and talent are on a whole different level from Carr/Wentz/Luck/Newton/Bridgewater/Mariota

I couldn't agree more.

I mean this roster has only turned over, what, the bottom 43 players since Dorsey and Reid took over?

[milkman]

Nah. Carr would've been a good choice regardless. If we didn't choose to start him immediately, then he could've sat behind Smith ala Rodgers sitting behind Favre for a few years. Andy is good with quarterbacks and may have had Carr starting by now for us. Not to mention, he wouldn't be a Faider.

As I've stated earlier in this thread, I would trade Smith for Carr.

We know what Alex Smith is, and while I believe that he is good enough to get to a SB and even with, he is not a QB that will lead this team there.

I don't know that Derek Carr will be that kind of QB, he does have the potential to be.

He's still growing and learning.

But I also do understand why Dorsey didn't make that selection.

Smith is Reid's QB, and he's a gut that still had 7-8 years or more, and it would be impractical to draft and start grooming his replacement that high in the draft.

[ct]

trolls do not care if they are right or wrong, only that you give them attention

[RunKC]

The biggest problem with guys like Carr, Marriotta and Winston is they have shitty coaching

[MotherfuckerJones]

Carr is pretty good but I've said all along to my Raider buddy that he turns it over a lot. He's a gunslinger, therefore he will. The big concern is fumbles and not being able to hold the ball. Some of his college concerns over pressure is showing in some of his mistakes under pressure. Like the the INT to Peters and some other mistakes he made. Kid can be a helluva clutch QB though. Like the 2nd overall rated QB in the 4th quarter.

[MotherfuckerJones]

The biggest problem with guys like Carr, Marriotta and Winston is they have shitty coaching

JDR is ass. I've said it all along that they'll be mediocre as long as Rio is there. Del Rio is supposed to be a defensive coach and their defense is dog shit no matter how much they spend.

[temper11]

Some of Alex's problems to date are BECAUSE of all the terrible years/teams of many years ago. So those years are more a detriment than benefit.

So much this. In terms of playing in the way that the fans on CP want him to play, those years were a detriment for sure. Not to mention that he spent much of those years on the injured list.

[dls6501]

Year three for Carr, the Raiders have a much better defense with guys like Irvin, Smith, Mack, etc.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

You cant be serious.

[threebag]

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

You cant be serious.

Yes, their defense has gotten better personnel since Carr arrived.


Comprehension is a fucking hurdle
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[dls6501]

^The entire post was a comparison between the Raiders and the Chiefs. If the poster somehow meant that the Raiders defense is better this year than the Raiders defense of years past, it was very poorly worded.

[Simply Red]

That was a solid looking Division victory on the road for the Chiefs, Oakland barely competed. Congrats.

ysn

[Saccopoo]

^The entire post was a comparison between the Raiders and the Chiefs. If the poster somehow meant that the Raiders defense is better this year than the Raiders defense of years past, it was very poorly worded.

Was it?

As I stated, this will be a more telling year from a comparative analysis. Oakland's interior offensive line is superb, they have a very good receiving corps and their defense is good on paper (i.e., Mack, Irvin, Smith, Amerson, etc.) And Carr is a very good young quarterback at the mid point of year three.

I'm not sure how you extrapolate "it's pretty sad roflcopter lolololol" when Smith has been statistically better than Carr in their head to head matchups and has a 4-1 win/loss advantage over him.

Smith has been better the last three seasons. Not exponentially so, but he has been better.

I actually said it twice in fact.

And the actual post had to do with comparing the statistics of Smith and Carr in their head to head matchups. I stated twice that this year would be a better evaluation because of the additions that the Raiders have made and Carr's continued development with the Raiders.

Geez...the only thing that was poor about this whole thing was your reading comprehension.

[TimBone]

http://i.imgur.com/zx6ymJg.gif

Good god, man. Maybe white people shouldn't be allowed to do hurdles anymore.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Carr really was fortunate to not have more turnovers yesterday. March dropped that one INT. Carr was just slinging some Jay Cutler passes out there like that INT was something Cutler would've done.

[dls6501]

Was it?

I actually said it twice in fact.

And the actual post had to do with comparing the statistics of Smith and Carr in their head to head matchups. I stated twice that this year would be a better evaluation because of the additions that the Raiders have made and Carr's continued development with the Raiders.

Geez...the only thing that was poor about this whole thing was your reading comprehension.

I didnt see your second post, so I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant.

[KChiefs1]

Not your average Raiders QB:

https://www.facebook.com/fox11la/videos/700003843504569/







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[mdstu]

This is why I don't have a Facebook account.

[Chief Northman]

This is why I don't have a Facebook account.

Heh. I concur.

[Eureka]

Carr is becoming a great QB. That is all.

[Best22]

Carr is becoming a great QB. That is all.

Being a good guy makes you a great quarterback?

[kcchiefsus]

The Chiefs won't find a quarterback of his caliber in the next 50 years. Fuck this shitty franchise.

[Mr. Laz]

Carr is pretty good but I've said all along to my Raider buddy that he turns it over a lot. He's a gunslinger, therefore he will. The big concern is fumbles and not being able to hold the ball. Some of his college concerns over pressure is showing in some of his mistakes under pressure. Like the the INT to Peters and some other mistakes he made. Kid can be a helluva clutch QB though. Like the 2nd overall rated QB in the 4th quarter.
Sounds like the kind of QB that many around here want.

Gunslinger, fuck if it goes wrong at least your QB tried.

500 yards, 4 TD,2 ints,1 fumble Booyah!!

[Eureka]

Being a good guy makes you a great quarterback?

That helps

[Best22]

That helps

No disagreement from me. But if anybody brings up character in an Alex Smith discussion, that guy always gets shot down...

[Hammock Parties]

Someone bumped this thread?

That wasn't me or one of my lieutenants of darkness?

I'm so proud.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Carr: 6 INT's, 3 fumbles lost.

CP Reaction: GUNSLINGER! RECKLESS! TURNS IT OVER TOO MUCH!


Meanwhile in KC...

8 INT's, 4 fumbles lost.

CP Reaction: PROTECTS THE FOOTBALL! HELPS THE DEFENSE!

[RippedmyFlesh]

No disagreement from me. But if anybody brings up character in an Alex Smith discussion, that guy always gets shot down...

Character are you really hanging your hat on that? Takes a lot more than that to be a good qb. There are good guys every year that get cut and scoundrels that keep their jobs. NFL players are like musicians now people don't care about their personality just their work.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Carr: 6 INT's, 3 fumbles lost.

CP Reaction: GUNSLINGER! RECKLESS! TURNS IT OVER TOO MUCH!


Meanwhile in KC...

8 INT's, 4 fumbles lost.

CP Reaction: PROTECTS THE FOOTBALL! HELPS THE DEFENSE!

The dumbasses went quiet.
Yes Carr IS better than smith.

[New World Order]

Not only is Carr the much better quarterback, he's also the nicer guy.

He's just very nice!

[Ming the Merciless]

derrick carr will be a thorn in our side for 10 years

thanks alot northman for the bad mojo

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Carr: 6 INT's, 3 fumbles lost.

CP Reaction: GUNSLINGER! RECKLESS! TURNS IT OVER TOO MUCH!


Meanwhile in KC...

8 INT's, 4 fumbles lost.

CP Reaction: PROTECTS THE FOOTBALL! HELPS THE DEFENSE!

LMAO

They're retarded, OT. You should expect this by now.

[Best22]

Character are you really hanging your hat on that? Takes a lot more than that to be a good qb. There are good guys every year that get cut and scoundrels that keep their jobs. NFL players are like musicians now people don't care about their personality just their work.

Like clockwork...

[King_Chief_Fan]

Not only is Carr the much better quarterback, he's also the nicer guy.

He's just very nice!

he does appear to be a great person

[Messier]

derrick carr will be a thorn in our side for 10 years

thanks alot northman for the bad mojo

Probably, but until he starts winning games against the Chiefs, I'm gonna go with Reid has his number.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Alex Smith married a Raiderette.

[lawrenceRaider]

Sounds like the kind of QB that many around here want.

Gunslinger, **** if it goes wrong at least your QB tried.

500 yards, 4 TD,2 ints,1 fumble Booyah!!

Those stats likely mean you won the game.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

5 hundo means you were likely behind due to those 3 turnovers. Maybe some gsrbage time stats?

[kcxiv]

derrick carr will be a thorn in our side for 10 years

thanks alot northman for the bad mojo
He didnt bring any kind of bad mojo, the Chiefs front office unwilling to draft a franchise QB is the bad mojo. ITs one of the, no one else to blame but the damned owner and front office for trying to make something fit that doesnt fit.

[NWTF]

This was a very premature crow serving thread.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Get me Geno, Marky Baywatch, and Clausen at 5/ CP

Russ Wilson is a midget no thanky/CP

Round 1 QB or bust/CP

WHY U NO TAKE CAR??(literally no one wanted him at the time)

[lawrenceRaider]

5 hundo means you were likely behind due to those 3 turnovers. Maybe some gsrbage time stats?

Considering Carr's 4th qtr comebacks, most likely a win. Dude is nails in the 4th.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Considering Carr's 4th qtr comebacks, most likely a win. Dude is nails in the 4th.

Unless he is playing KC. Big ole pants shitting ahead.

[Eureka]

This was a very premature crow serving thread.

Yes, indeed. But it helped jinks Carr to get injured which in turn gave the AFC WEST to da Chiefs.

[NWTF]

Yes, indeed. But it helped jinks Carr to get injured which in turn gave the AFC WEST to da Chiefs.

Yeah, wining the WEST worked out so well.

[kcxiv]

Yes, indeed. But it helped jinks Carr to get injured which in turn gave the AFC WEST to da Chiefs.


Like always, they did absolutely nothing with that! Offense shit the fucking bed again.

[Best22]

Yes, indeed. But it helped jinks Carr to get injured which in turn gave the AFC WEST to da Chiefs.

Chiefs were winning regardless. Carr wasn't beating the Broncos in Denver

[Reerun_KC]

Chiefs were winning regardless. Carr wasn't beating the Broncos in Denver

Then we went and immediately shit the bed in classic chiefs fashion...

Having the face of your franchise hold on the biggest play of the season. Because chiefs

[RunKC]

Then we went and immediately shit the bed in classic chiefs fashion...

Having the face of your franchise miss open receivers for TD's in the biggest game of the season. Because chiefs

FYP

[TimBone]

Yes, indeed. But it helped jinks Carr to get injured which in turn gave the AFC WEST to da Chiefs.
You've made this statement before, and it was already proven to be bullshit. Both teams lost their starting QB for one and half games this year. KC managed to win those games, meanwhile, Oakland managed to shit the bed in hilarious fashion.

Carr getting injured is not what one the West for the Chiefs. Sweeping the Raiders is what won the West for the Chiefs. Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better, though.

[lawrenceRaider]

Unless he is playing KC. Big ole pants shitting ahead.

So far that is accurate.

[lawrenceRaider]

Chiefs were winning regardless. Carr wasn't beating the Broncos in Denver

Pfft. You mean like the Donks were supposed to roll over the Raiders in Oakland?

KC has Carr's number, not so much for the Donks. Until Carr shows he can beat KC, we'll struggle to win the West.

[lawrenceRaider]

You've made this statement before, and it was already proven to be bullshit. Both teams lost their starting QB for one and half games this year. KC managed to win those games, meanwhile, Oakland managed to shit the bed in hilarious fashion.

Carr getting injured is not what one the West for the Chiefs. Sweeping the Raiders is what won the West for the Chiefs. Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better, though.

Foles played one of the worst teams in the league in the Jags, Chiefs barely won.

[Best22]

Pfft. You mean like the Donks were supposed to roll over the Raiders in Oakland?

KC has Carr's number, not so much for the Donks. Until Carr shows he can beat KC, we'll struggle to win the West.

Derek Carr has always struggled in Denver, even in victory.

But what's done is done. The Chiefs have been the better team for 4 years running (7-1 record) and I expect that to continue.

[SAUTO]

Foles played one of the worst teams in the league in the Jags, Chiefs barely won.

Lucky them, I guess.

[temper11]

5 hundo means you were likely behind due to those 3 turnovers. Maybe some gsrbage time stats?

this.

[Ming the Merciless]

carr > smith

no one in their right mind would take smith over carr now

[TimBone]

Foles played one of the worst teams in the league in the Jags, Chiefs barely won.
Raiders, who had everything on the line, were playing a Denver team that had nothing to play for at that point.

Like I said....you guys keep telling yourself what you want. The Chiefs won the West because they swept the Raiders.

[OnTheWarpath15]

5 hundo means you were likely behind due to those 3 turnovers. Maybe some gsrbage time stats?

Fail.

There have been twenty 500 yard passing games in NFL history. The QB's involved are 12-8.

These QB's threw more than two INT's in exactly FOUR of the twenty 500 yard games in question.

They also have a 77-32 TD:INT ratio collectively.

[TimBone]

carr > smith

no one in their right mind would take smith over carr now
Truth.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Fail.

There have been twenty 500 yard passing games in NFL history. The QB's involved are 12-8.

These QB's threw more than two INT's in exactly FOUR of the twenty 500 yard games in question.

They also have a 77-32 TD:INT ratio collectively.

The collective TD:INT ratio in the 8 losses?

23-17. Marino (5) and Brees (3) are the only two QB's to throw for more than 2 INT's in a loss.

Romo and Rivers have lost games throwing for 500 yards and 0-1 INTs.

[TimBone]

Fail.

There have been twenty 500 yard passing games in NFL history. The QB's involved are 12-8.

These QB's threw more than two INT's in exactly FOUR of the twenty 500 yard games in question.

They also have a 77-32 TD:INT ratio collectively.
The fail is strong with PGM lately.

[New World Order]

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