Jamaal Charles going to see Dr Andrews

[RunKC]

Adam Schefter
Chiefs HC Andy Reid says RB Jamaal Charles will visit Dr. James Andrews this week to have his knee checked out.

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UPDATED

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000734137/article/chiefs-optimistic-jamaal-charles-will-return-for-playoffs?campaign=Twitter_atn

[Coochie liquor]

That really sucks. Went from lots of rb depth to none in one week

[Skyy God]

It's a next man up league.

I bet Reaves gets elevated to the 53 and plays well.

[scho63]

I want to be optimistic but I think he doesn't come back this year and maybe never again.

That would be a shitty way to end his career.

[Chromatic]

That's not good at all. I think his time here is probably over.

No teams will trade for him so he either takes a very team friendly deal or is released. I hope he retires by that point because I don't want to see him wasting away in some bottom feeder franchise fucking up his knees any more than they have.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

That's a lot of money we save next season. Poe was the easy decision to begin with

[DaneMcCloud]

Considering that he's only taken 12 snaps this year and he's had swelling in both knees, this isn't surprising.

Going to IR is the most likely scenario while bringing up Reaves from the PS.

[ThaVirus]

What's up with the swelling in both knees?

Weird.

[Skyy God]

What's up with the swelling in both knees?

Weird.

He's torn ACLs in both knees

[ThaVirus]

He's torn ACLs in both knees

He tore the other knee 5 years ago.

[Bewbies]

Sad. If this is his end it's not much different than Priest Holmes. Hate to see the greats end their careers this way.

[Easy 6]

Sad. If this is his end it's not much different than Priest Holmes. Hate to see the greats end their careers this way.

Agreed, this ****ing blows... for him AND us

[DaFace]

Regardless of whether or not he plays again this year, the team has to 100% be planning for him to be gone.

[DaneMcCloud]

Agreed, this ****ing blows... for him AND us

He's still receiving his $5.3 million dollar salary this year, so it's not all bad for Charles.

[DaneMcCloud]

Regardless of whether or not he plays again this year, the team has to 100% be planning for him to be gone.

I think the Chiefs know this is the end. Otherwise, they wouldn't have signed Brooks to the PS.

Reaves is the next man up.

[Skyy God]

He tore the other knee 5 years ago.

Well, sure.

Swelling in a surgically-repaired knee isn't uncommon, tho.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.drdavidgeier.com/outcomes-20-years-after-acl-surgery/amp/?client=safari

[Mr. Flopnuts]

He's done in KC. I should've never deleted that thread.

[jspchief]

What's up with the swelling in both knees?

Weird.
He could be putting extra pressure on the other knee from favoring the injured one.

[Skyy God]

He could be putting extra pressure on the other knee from favoring the injured one.

This.

Overcompensating.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel pretty shitty losing Parker Ehinger right now

Kid was really coming along.

[Reerun_KC]

Held on to him just a few years to long. Chiefs have a history of doing that.

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel pretty shitty losing Parker Ehinger right now

Kid was really coming along.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spencer Ware did not pass concussion protocol. LG Parker Ehinger with sprained knee.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/792828916356427776">October 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[ARROW2]

Time to replace the road Charles jersey with something else on away game days.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Sigh....makes me sad. Charles may very well be done.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Held on to him just a few years to long. Chiefs have a history of doing that.

Oh well. What would we have gotten that's any better?

[RINGLEADER]

Just hope he didn't pop one of them again pushing for that TD against Oakland.

[Easy 6]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spencer Ware did not pass concussion protocol. LG Parker Ehinger with sprained knee.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/792828916356427776">October 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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People were talking like he got Theismanned

[RunKC]

Radio saying he's going to get cleared just like Houston. He sounds like he's having the swelling issues Tamba had in his knees.

Looks like he might have Same surgery Tamba did to clean out both knees

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Every time Andy says a guy has a 'knee sprain', it winds up being a serious knee injury.

Zach Fulton is our new starting left guard, and we can only hope he does a serviceable job.

[Reerun_KC]

Oh well. What would we have gotten that's any better?

Ware and west. Or that RB are a dime a dozen. Teams win every year without KC...

Investing heavily in the RB position is so 1990...

[Red Dawg]

I still have hope. Can't write him off for this year just yet. He is still a bad ass.

[DaneMcCloud]

I still have hope. Can't write him off for this year just yet. He is still a bad ass.

LMAO

[Rain Man]

If Dr. James Andrews ever goes public, I'm buying his stock.

[Meatloaf]

Not great news, but neither is not knowing whether Charles is going to be available each and every week. Need a tad of certainty with this. If he needs some "clean-up" in the knee(s), so be it. Just do it. Personally, I think he's heading to the IR. However, I think he'll return as a Chief next year too. I don't think he's done at all. In fact, I thought he looked pretty spry out there for the few carries he's had this year.

I don't want to see Charles playing for ANYONE but the Chiefs. If he retires, fine; if he is able to continue to play, play as a Chief. I don't want to see the man in ANY other uniform. EVER.

[mdchiefsfan]

It's a next man up league.

I bet Reaves gets elevated to the 53 and plays well.

Reaves has looked solid in preseason. I wouldn't mind seeing what he does with better blockers in front of him.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Reaves has looked solid in preseason. I wouldn't mind seeing what he does with better blockers in front of him.

He would be facing better defenders, so that's all relative.

But the idea of Reaves being our 3rd RB doesn't scare me by any means.

[mcaj22]

shame Fat Scott ruined the prime of Charles career with bad rosters, fraud coaches and terrible losing seasons

[carcosa]

:(

[In58men]

I don't see why everybody is assuming this is bad. With Ware possibly being out with a concussion maybe they want to make sure Charles can play next week?

[PAChiefsGuy]

I don't see why everybody is assuming this is bad. With Ware possibly being out with a concussion maybe they want to make sure Charles can play next week?

Agreed.

I'm assuming it is pretty normal for a player of Jamaal's caliber to get his ACL repaired knee checked out especially if it has gotten some swelling recently. Doesn't mean he is going to IR..

We'll have to wait until tomorrow to see what Dr Andrews says. Hopefully we get good news.

[DaneMcCloud]

Agreed.

I'm assuming it is pretty normal for a player of Jamaal's caliber to get his ACL repaired knee checked out especially if it has gotten some swelling recently. Doesn't mean he is going to IR..

We'll have to wait until tomorrow to see what Dr Andrews says. Hopefully we get good news.

Good fucking grief.

Are you people following the timeline? BOTH knees are swollen. He can't practice because and he's taken 12 snaps this season.

NO doctor is going to say "Yeah, sure, play on two swollen knees. No worries".

[In58men]

Good ****ing grief.

Are you people following the timeline? BOTH knees are swollen. He can't practice because and he's taken 12 snaps this season.

NO doctor is going to say "Yeah, sure, play on two swollen knees. No worries".

I don't think it's bad like most are assuming. I won't be shocked if he plays next week.

[Chief Northman]

Face it folks, Charles' career with the Chiefs is going out with a whisper. Even healthy he is at best a rotational back playing behind Ware. The scheme is no longer catered to him and maybe that is a good thing. Last year Charles' absence forced the Chiefs to simplify in the run game, the line was allowed to play physical and straight ahead with less screen and draw plays.

Time to move on, and even if Charles manages to make some contributions this season, it really is gravy as the Chiefs seem comfortable moving ahead with Ware/West.

[Deberg_1990]

It sucks losing a home run hitter like Charles. But the Chiefs have proven they can win without him.

If this is the end, thanks for everything Jamaal, but time to move on. Football is a brutal and unkind sport. Next man up.

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't think it's bad like most are assuming. I won't be shocked if he plays next week.

Either trolling or your dumber than I previously thought

[PAChiefsGuy]

It sucks losing a home run hitter like Charles. But the Chiefs have proven they can win without him.

If this is the end, thanks for everything Jamaal, but time to move on. Football is a brutal and unkind sport. Next man up.

We proved we could win a playoff game without him but that's not this team's goal anymore.

We want to beat the elite teams in the NFL and win the SB we are going to need Jamaal. I love Ware but IMO he is not as good as Charles. Charles is way more explosive... Our defense isn't going to be able to shut down the Patriots if we see them in the playoffs.

Having Jamaal would give our offense enough firepower to possibly beat the Pats IMO.Charles/Ware would be a deadly one-two punch and make our offense a hell of a lot better than it is now.

Lets hope for the best.

As long as the Dr. Andrews says he can play this season and he is not getting put on IR then IMO there isn't much to worry about. We don't play a team with a winning record until Nov 27th... There is no need to rush him back so I'm not too worried about it right now.

[Titty Meat]

Good ****ing grief.

Are you people following the timeline? BOTH knees are swollen. He can't practice because and he's taken 12 snaps this season.

NO doctor is going to say "Yeah, sure, play on two swollen knees. No worries".

Yeah that's interesting that it's both knees.

[gonefishin53]

Darren Reaves is a bit bigger, faster, and stronger version of the Falcon's Jacquizz Rodgers. I like him better than West in a 1 back, multiple TE offense like the Chiefs use because he runs with better leverage and power.

[hometeam]

yea.. this sucks. I was hoping the experimental stem cell stuff would work wonders.. but.. it hasnt.

I love Jamaal. I want to see him retire a Chief.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I expect Charles to IR, and bring up Reeves activated for Sunday. Hope not for Charles' sake because I'd love nothing more for his knee to get better and be fresh for the playoffs.

[Warrick]

He will be fine, it's very common for the knees to swell after playing on that crappy turf in Oakland. Andy Reid is being extra cautious and has to follow protocal with his best player on offense having two swollen knees. Gaines knee was swollen too, it may take Charles a few games to comeback because he's a little older. Yet don't forget how tough this kid is, he is going to prove a lot of naysayers on here wrong.

[Why Not?]

Darren Reaves is a bit bigger, faster, and stronger version of the Falcon's Jacquizz Rodgers.


Um, you haven't been following other teams this year have you?



But your overall point is a good one.

[Buns]

Albert Wilson is doing jack and shit. Cut him and bring up Reaves or possibly Brooks. Let Ware recover. My guess on Charles is he will rest up and finish his final season.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

he should see Dr. James Westfall too

[In58men]

Either trolling or your dumber than I previously thought

I'm honestly not trolling. I really believe the Chiefs are visiting to see if he can handle a split load with West if Ware is out. I guess I'm dumb.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

He's not going on IR. It's not like he re-tore the SOB...

They're gonna figure some things out but he's not going on IR. He'll be playing and dressed out every week soon, if I had to guess.

[In58men]

He's not going on IR. It's not like he re-tore the SOB...

They're gonna figure some things out but he's not going on IR. He'll be playing and dressed out every week soon, if I had to guess.

I agree. I think they want to see Andrews as a precautionary before giving him more of a workload.

[RunKC]

Per Ian Rappaport, it was precautionary and they are going to see how he does at practice on Wednesday

[Danguardace]

Albert Wilson is doing jack and shit. Cut him and bring up Reaves or possibly Brooks. Let Ware recover. My guess on Charles is he will rest up and finish his final season.

Albert Wilson is doing a fine Job as Punt Protector :D

....Cut his ass

[DaneMcCloud]

I'm honestly not trolling. I really believe the Chiefs are visiting to see if he can handle a split load with West if Ware is out. I guess I'm dumb.

He's going to see the doctor that performed his ACL surgery last year to find out why he's not healing properly, not to ask permission to play on knees filled with fluid.

Either Andrews will recommend another procedure or he'll recommend that Charles waits it out.

One hit to either of those swollen knees and his year (and quite possibly, career) is over.

[DJ's left nut]

The writing was on the wall either way. Even a healthy Charles was going to be a cap casualty next season.

I was hoping we'd get one last ride with an effective JC but it seems pretty unlikely. He just didn't show any explosion at all out there. Even his best run was one where he just picked and popped his way forward but when he looked for the afterburners when he hit the second level, they just weren't there.

He's essentially West with better vision these days.

[RunKC]

Update here and in OP

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000734137/article/chiefs-optimistic-jamaal-charles-will-return-for-playoffs?campaign=Twitter_atn

[Rausch]

I think the Chiefs know this is the end. Otherwise, they wouldn't have signed Brooks to the PS.

Reaves is the next man up.

I like his potential as a 3rd HB...

[In58men]

Update here and in OP

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000734137/article/chiefs-optimistic-jamaal-charles-will-return-for-playoffs?campaign=Twitter_atn

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[Rausch]

So if I understand this correctly it's pretty much the same injury Big Ben had, right?...

[PutQuinnIn]

Playoffs?

[DaneMcCloud]

So if I understand this correctly it's pretty much the same injury Big Ben had, right?...

From my understanding, no.

Charles had a "jagged" meniscus, so Dr. Andrew trimmed it so that it won't cause him pain.

Unfortunately, it will most definitely cause him to have arthritis in both knees in less than 20 years.

The guy might be in a wheelchair by age 45...

[pugsnotdrugs19]

From my understanding, no.

Charles had a "jagged" meniscus, so Dr. Andrew trimmed it so that it won't cause him pain.

Unfortunately, it will most definitely cause him to have arthritis in both knees in less than 20 years.

The guy might be in a wheelchair by age 45...

Arthritis, and a Super Bowl ring on his hand as he leads the Chiefs on a miracle run when he comes back and then rides off into the sunset...

:D

[Rausch]

From my understanding, no.

Charles had a "jagged" meniscus, so Dr. Andrew trimmed it so that it won't cause him pain.

Unfortunately, it will most definitely cause him to have arthritis in both knees in less than 20 years.

The guy might be in a wheelchair by age 45...

Any time you remove cartilage it's bad.

Both had at least a similar procedure. Actually, I shouldn't say that: both had the same injury...

[DaneMcCloud]

Any time you remove cartilage it's bad.

Both had at least a similar procedure. Actually, I shouldn't say that: both had the same injury...

Actually, Rothlisberger had a torn meniscus, which was repaired, while Charles menisci were worn down and jagged, so they were "trimmed". There are example images on the internet if that sort of stuff doesn't bother you.

At some point, Charles will be arthritic and bone on bone. Most likely, he's looking at full on knee replacement at some point, in both knees.

[Rausch]

Actually, Rothlisberger had a torn meniscus, which was repaired, while Charles menisci were worn down and jagged, so they were "trimmed". There are example images on the internet if that sort of stuff doesn't bother you.

At some point, Charles will be arthritic and bone on bone. Most likely, he's looking at full on knee replacement at some point, in both knees.

I may be wrong but I thought Ben had his trimmed as well. They even spent a whole segment on it on NFLN AM.

I was not aware of Charles' situation being as bad as it is. I'd expect him to return even though, for his betterment, he shouldn't...

[Hoover]

So Charles is our Kyle Schwarber? I'll take it!

[jjchieffan]

One mod online today. BRC. He's the dick! He not only booted me from the GDT, he also booted me from my thread complaining about it and removed my thread starting privileges. Screw off BRC. Go suck on Foles big ole chili dog!!

[SAUTO]

One mod online today. BRC. He's the dick! He not only booted me from the GDT, he also booted me from my thread complaining about it and removed my thread starting privileges. Screw off BRC. Go suck on Foles big ole chili dog!!

It's wasn't brc.

[TimBone]

One mod online today. BRC. He's the dick! He not only booted me from the GDT, he also booted me from my thread complaining about it and removed my thread starting privileges. Screw off BRC. Go suck on Foles big ole chili dog!!

This thread is about Jamarl Childs. Please stay on topic, sir.

[stumppy]

One mod online today. BRC. He's the dick! He not only booted me from the GDT, he also booted me from my thread complaining about it and removed my thread starting privileges. Screw off BRC. Go suck on Foles big ole chili dog!!

Jeez man, whats that got to do with Charles ?

[stumppy]

It's wasn't brc.

You never know

[SAUTO]

You never know

Flop posted and basically said he did it

[TimBone]

Flop posted and basically said he did it

Covering for BRC. What a guy! He seems nice!

[RealSNR]

BigRedChief lied, jj's thread starting abilities died

[eDave]

LMAO It's totally Flop and he's LOVING it. As are we in chat. Come to chat and bitch there dude!

[RealSNR]

Flopnuts, is there anything you can do to help jj out?