Bucs abused the defense...

[petegz28]

I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock.

Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by them and Reid. But the defense killed us today.

[Simply Red]

Oh well, It's just a game.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Both sides sucked monkey nuts

[Chiefspants]

No Ford. No Peters.

Woulda been nice to take advantage of our RZ opportunities.

[ARROW2]

I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock.

Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by then and Reid. But the defense killed us today.


Sorry, it's still Alex.

[oaklandhater]

Sorry, it's still Alex.

This!!!!

only a moron would blame just the defense

[Aspengc8]

No Ford. No Peters.

Woulda been nice to take advantage of our RZ opportunities.

Ford was in for half the game, didnt make a difference. The atrocious tackling really hurt them on 1st and 2nd downs

[Bob Dole]

Bob Dole wants to be Mike Evans in his next life.

[petegz28]

Sorry, it's still Alex.

Because he threw 1 int? ROFL

[The Franchise]

19 points. Do you know how many NFL offenses would be happy with their defense holding the other team to 19 fucking points?

[Chiefspants]

Ford was in for half the game, didnt make a difference. The atrocious tackling really hurt them on 1st and 2nd downs

Ford really hasn't come through in big situations this year. It's doubtful he could have made a difference in the second half.

[dlphg9]

Pete you are a fucking idiot. Why the fuck is the defense expected to win every game for us? Why can't that dipshit Alex Smith do anything but suck dick?

[milkman]

Ford really hasn't come through in big situations this year. It's doubtful he could have made a difference in the second half.

Wait...........What?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Down game, but still the offense only needed 20 points at home to win.

[Bob Dole]

Pete you are a ****ing idiot. Why the **** is the defense expected to win every game for us? Why can't that dipshit Alex Smith do anything but suck dick?

And score 2 touchdowns...

[milkman]

Pete you are a ****ing idiot. Why the **** is the defense expected to win every game for us? Why can't that dipshit Alex Smith do anything but suck dick?


Because.....Alex Smith.

[Chiefspants]

Wait...........What?

I pointed out that Ford and Peters being gone may have affected the defense, I was told Ford wasn't impactful in the 1st half - so I wrote on a reply he'd need a working meter for.

[The Franchise]

And score 2 touchdowns...

And throw game losing INTs.

Or throw the ball 5 yards on the last play of the game.

[rabblerouser]

I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock.

Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by then and Reid. But the defense killed us today.

If Andy doesn't call that stupid play, and Alex doesn't throw a pick, then Santos kicks a FG and we win by a point.


Sorry, the defense still had the team in position to win; Andy and Alex shit the bed.

-1

[jonzie04]

Ford really hasn't come through in big situations this year. It's doubtful he could have made a difference in the second half.

You only have to go back to last week to find ford coming through in a big situation.

Edit: nvm I see what you did there

[TEX]

I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock.

Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by then and Reid. But the defense killed us today.

:facepalm: Just wow...

[petegz28]

And throw game losing INTs.

Or throw the ball 5 yards on the last play of the game.

Yeah because with 8 secs from our 30 we were gonna do something....:rolleyes:

[Bob Dole]

Because he threw 1 int? ROFL

That was tipped. In the same situation where people bitch that he doesn't throw to the end zone.

[rabblerouser]

19 points. Do you know how many NFL offenses would be happy with their defense holding the other team to 19 ****ing points?

This.

[petegz28]

That was tipped. In the same situation where people bitch that he doesn't throw to the end zone.

Even with the INT, we can't pretend the defense didn't get rolled all game long.

[The Franchise]

That was tipped. In the same situation where people bitch that he doesn't throw to the end zone.

Tipped had nothing to do with it. Even if it wasn't tipped...that was still an INT.

It's ACL time for Smith.

[Bob Dole]

If Andy doesn't call that stupid play, and Alex doesn't throw a pick, then Santos kicks a FG and we win by a point.


Sorry, the defense still had the team in position to win; Andy and Alex shit the bed.

-1

Or the stupid timeout everyone seems to be forgetting...

[The Franchise]

Yeah because with 8 secs from our 30 we were gonna do something....:rolleyes:

Yeah because I wouldn't expect our $17 million QB to actually fucking try.

[Beef Supreme]

That was tipped. In the same situation where people bitch that he doesn't throw to the end zone.

Oh come on. We bitch when he doesn't throw to the end zone to open receivers. That throw was a terrible decision.

[milkman]

That was tipped. In the same situation where people bitch that he doesn't throw to the end zone.

Yeah, we want him o throw into the EZ when he has a man open.

Throwing into triple coverage, not so much.

[Bob Dole]

Oh come on. We bitch when he doesn't throw to the end zone to open receivers. That throw was a terrible decision.

Of course it was, FirstGradeTablet.

[Red Dawg]

It's real simple. Today's NFL requires an offense score td's to win games. That falls
On the QB to get the offense to that. Our QB doesn't do that therefore we will be left
Out of the SB talk until we have one that can get tds.

[rabblerouser]

Because he threw 1 int? ROFL

In the end zone, during the 4th qtr of a close game?

Yes.

**** YES.


the thing we've been hearing all along is "well he doesn't get ya BEAT"..."he doesn't make the big mistake at the end that costs you games"..."it's not pretty, but all he does is WIN".
ROFL

[kcpasco]

3rd and long should not be that easy to convert. The DB's were absolute trash.

[rabblerouser]

Or the stupid timeout everyone seems to be forgetting...

Yeah he shit the bed at the end of he first half too.


He sucks.

[petegz28]

In the end zone, during the 4th qtr of a close game?

Yes.

**** YES.


the thing we've been hearing all along is "well he doesn't get ya BEAT"..."he doesn't make the big mistake at the end that costs you games"..."it's not pretty, but all he does is WIN".
ROFL

dude that shit is going to happen....the defense had to get a stop and didn't. really they didn't get a stop all game

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

First red zone interception for Smith in almost two years but people want to ignore that Winston had 331 yards passing with 19 passing first downs.

Holy. Shit.

[Chiefspants]

Were Grbac's groupies as loud as the Alex shippers?

[oaklandhater]

First red zone interception for Smith in almost two years but people want to ignore that Winston had 331 yards passing with 19 passing first downs.

Holy. Shit.

Moron

[Chiefspants]

First red zone interception for Smith in almost two years but people want to ignore that Winston had 331 yards passing with 19 passing first downs.

Holy. Shit.

19 points.

[Bob Dole]

Yeah he shit the bed at the end of he first half too.


He sucks.

That's the TO Bob Dole is referencing.

[oaklandhater]

Were Grbac's groupies as loud as the Alex shippers?

Cassel bitches were just has bad as the Alex ballwashers

[Beef Supreme]

dude that shit is going to happen....the defense had to get a stop and didn't. really they didn't get a stop all game

If we're gonna have a QB who throws game killing interceptions in the end zone , I'd rather have Tony Romo.

[rabblerouser]

Moron

yup.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Doesn't matter when the Smith INT came, the entire 60 minutes is a body of work. We could've scored there but let TB come back on other end to score and win the game but I guarantee you numb nuts would still be moaning about the offense.

Dropped passes are still a problem and that 2nd offensive series that we went 3 runs and out was atrocious. Smith had a bad play, sure, but all quarterbacks are entitled to a mistake so ignoring the fact that our defense sucked at wrapping up Martin in the backfield in the second half and we let Jameis throw for 331 yards is just ignorant.

[notorious]

It doesn't matter when the INT happened?


Are you serious? ROFL

[petegz28]

If we're gonna have a QB who throws game killing interceptions in the end zone , I'd rather have Tony Romo.

FFs, we lost for the first time in 10 games at home. We are 7-3. Shit is going to happen.

[rabblerouser]

If we're gonna have a QB who throws game killing interceptions in the end zone , I'd rather have Tony Romo.

Be more exciting. I hear he's going to be available this offseason.

Bring him in for a look?

[NJChiefsFan]

Or the stupid timeout everyone seems to be forgetting...

There has been plenty of talk about the timeout. That and the int are two huge moments that changed this game.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It doesn't matter when the INT happened?


Are you serious? ROFL

Iiiiiits creature time!!

[rabblerouser]

It doesn't matter when the INT happened?


Are you serious? ROFL

The stupid is real.

[Red Dawg]

Two trips to the 5 yard line and we got 3 points. That lost the game. Defense had less than a stellar day but 19 points is hardly that bad.

[MeatRock]

It doesn't matter when the INT happened?


Are you serious? ROFL

Tigerbob is a fucking lunatic. It's hilarious. His insults suck cock just like he does.

[Beef Supreme]

FFs, we lost for the first time in 10 games at home. We are 7-3. Shit is going to happen.

The defense didn't score this game. If the defense didn't score in those games,we woulda lost them too. We are 7-3 and going nowhere with this offense. I'd rather have Tony Romo. A broken Tony Romo is twice the QB Alex is.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If Andy doesn't call that stupid play, and Alex doesn't throw a pick, then Santos kicks a FG and we win by a point.


Sorry, the defense still had the team in position to win; Andy and Alex shit the bed.

-1

Are you high? Even if we scored and went up you still don't know what happens for the remainder of the game....Bucs could have strung off an eight minute drive to win and you'd still be here bitching.

[MeatRock]

Are you high? Even if we scored and went up you still don't know what happens for the remainder of the game....Bucs could have strung off an eight minute drive to win and you'd still be here bitching.

ROFL fucking lunatic.

[rabblerouser]

ROFL ****ing lunatic.

Well, we know who Tiggie voted for.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It doesn't matter when the INT happened?


Are you serious? ROFL

If you swap drives and Smith had his rushing TD in the 4th quarter and exchange it with his interception and put that series in the second quarter...
Guess what...the score is still the SAME.

There was 12 minutes left in the game which is equivalent to at least a possession for each side. Regardless of the interception, it doesn't change the fact that TB could move the ball on the defense.

Common sense.

[milkman]

Are you high? Even if we scored and went up you still don't know what happens for the remainder of the game....Bucs could have strung off an eight minute drive to win and you'd still be here bitching.

The fact that this defense couldn't make stops, nor score points, exonerates Alex from all critisism.

[rabblerouser]

The defense didn't score this game. If the defense didn't score in those games,we woulda lost them too. We are 7-3 and going nowhere with this offense. I'd rather have Tony Romo. A broken Tony Romo is twice the QB Alex is.
So...because the defense didn't score...I guess it IS the defense's fault for not carrying the entire team. Again.

[MeatRock]

If you swap drives and Smith had his rushing TD in the 4th quarter and exchange it with his interception and put that series in the second quarter...
Guess what...the score is still the SAME.

There was 12 minutes left in the game which is equivalent to at least a possession for each side. Regardless of the interception, it doesn't change the fact that TB could move the ball on the defense.

Common sense.

ROFL

[rabblerouser]

The fact that this defense couldn't make stops, nor score points, exonerates Alex from all critisism.

Obviously.

Andy Reid, too.

[notorious]

This is just too much. LMAO

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

There is literally no point in arguing with people who have never participated in organized sports or any level of secondary education. Time to hit the range before dinner. Good day children.

[rabblerouser]

Tigerbob is a ****ing lunatic. It's hilarious. His insults suck cock just like he does.

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[scho63]

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[mschiefs1984]

Both sides sucked monkey nuts

Pretty much sums it um

We just sucked nobody showed up and played well today

[MeatRock]

There is literally no point in arguing with people who have never participated in organized sports or any level of secondary education. Time to hit the range before dinner. Good day children.

Yea, that's it. Run off with your bitch ass tail between your legs. Dumbass.

[petegz28]

The fact that this defense couldn't make stops, nor score points, exonerates Alex from all critisism.

I never said Smith was without blame. But you, yourself even said in chat that this loss wasn't on Smith

[Beef Supreme]

There is literally no point in arguing with people who have never participated in organized sports or any level of secondary education. Time to hit the range before dinner. Good day children.

This is choice. Holy shit.ROFL

[milkman]

There is literally no point in arguing with people who have never participated in organized sports or any level of secondary education. Time to hit the range before dinner. Good day children.

You and the Alex ball washers on this site are by far the stupidest motherfuckers here.

The fact that you can not understand how we don't cup his balls and lick them like you is a testament to that fact.

[notorious]

Make no mistake, we are laughing at you, not with you.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

And score 2 touchdowns...

It's unfortunate there are so few of us that can hold a consistent and logical viewpoint meanwhile the deplorables of CP flood this place on days like this.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Jameis made some tight throws.would be nice if...

[Beef Supreme]

It's unfortunate there are so few of us that can hold a consistent and logical viewpoint meanwhile the deplorables of CP flood this place on days like this.

I'll give you consistent. No go on logical.

[milkman]

I never said Smith was without blame. But you, yourself even said in chat that this loss wasn't on Smith

I said it wasn't all Smith.

But he was not without blame, and these idiots are arguing otherwise.

[MeatRock]

Jameis made some tight throws.would be nice if...

Alex could..................nvm.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

You and the Alex ball washers on this site are by far the stupidest mother****ers here.

The fact that you can not understand how we don't cup his balls and lick them like you is a testament to that fact.

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.

Yet somehow Smith should be playing defense to stop winston's 19 passing first downs.

Dumbass.

[MeatRock]

It's games like this one that can make a QB great. Defense missing a bunch of starters and playmakers. It's too bad that Smith and Reid couldn't put it together today on offense against a fairly poor Bucs defense.

[milkman]

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.

Yet somehow Smith should be playing defense to stop winston's 19 passing first downs.

Dumbass.

No you stupid motherfucker.

We should have scored more than 2 TDs offense, and one those TDs we failed to score was directly on Smith.

We also failed to convert third downs to keep the chains moving until that final TD drive, and much of that failure lies squarely at the feet of Alex Smith.

This was total team loss, including a mediocre performance by Alex Smith.

Two or three plays does not excuse crap for the rest of the game.

[Mr. Laz]

I wonder how many tackles our front 7 missed today.

I wouldn't be surprised if it approached 20

[MeatRock]

No you stupid mother****er.

We should have scored more than 2 TDs offense, and one those TDs we failed to score was directly on Smith.

We also failed to convert third downs to keep the chains moving until that final TD drive, and much of that failure lies squarely at the feet of Alex Smith.

This was total team loss, including a mediocre performance by Alex Smith.

Two or three plays does not excuse crap for the rest of the game.

The motherfucker cannot wrap his brain around any of it. It's unreal.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

No you stupid mother****er.

We should have scored more than 2 TDs offense, and one those TDs we failed to score was directly on Smith.

We also failed to convert third downs to keep the chains moving until that final TD drive, and much of that failure lies squarely at the feet of Alex Smith.

This was total team loss, including a mediocre performance by Alex Smith.

Two or three plays does not excuse crap for the rest of the game.

So when Reid calls for 3 runs in a row to open up the 2nd series leading to a punt, that's on Smith? Cool. Or how Kelce missed a pass that could've went for a TD... Your dumbshittery needs to be wiped and flushed for eternity

Smith played a game that we can expect from him. The defense was pitiful.

[MeatRock]

If this happened instead of this that happened in the 2nd quarter instead of the 4th quarter bullshit. What in the actual fuck? The thing is, is that the Defense was hamstrung by injuries. Smith could have stepped up and delivered and he shat down his fucking leg at the most crucial time in the game.

[Mr. Laz]

If this happened instead of this that happened in the 2nd quarter instead of the 4th quarter bullshit. What in the actual fuck? The thing is, is that the Defense was hamstrung by injuries. Smith could have stepped up and delivered and he shat down his fucking leg at the most crucial time in the game.

This thread is about defense you stupid mother fucker.

If you want to endlessly bitch about Alex Smith then go to a thread about the offense.

idiotic,retarded,inbred bitch

:rolleyes:

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards before being stopped which set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4, giving us control of field position.

now tell me, what faults did Smith have all day long that was on the level of our defense giving up 19 passing first downs??

Logic beats dumbshittery.

[milkman]

So when Reid calls for 3 runs in a row to open up the 2nd series leading to a punt, that's on Smith? Cool. Or how Kelce missed a pass that could've went for a TD... Your dumbshittery needs to be wiped and flushed for eternity

Did I say all of the blame, you dumb son of a bitch?

Smith played a game that we can expect from him. The defense was pitiful.

Whether that's true or not, given that this was his second best game this season, the fact that is good enough for you speaks volumes about your intelligence.

[MeatRock]

This thread is about defense you stupid mother ****er.

If you want to endlessly bitch about Alex Smith then go to a thread about the offense.

idiotic,retarded,inbred bitch

:rolleyes:

Fuck you. The thread spun into the Defense is to blame thread and i disagree, bitch. The offense fucked up and when the Defense needed offense the most.

[New World Order]

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards to set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4.

now tell me, what exactly did Smith do to lose all day long that was on the level of our defense giving up 19 passing first downs??

Logic beats dumbshittery.


They gave up 19 points you ****ing moron. 7 of those on a short field.

Alex cost us the game with that awful interception.

[Bob Dole]

Scan anyone, ANYONE, explain the TO at 2nd and 11 before the half?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If this happened instead of this that happened in the 2nd quarter instead of the 4th quarter bullshit. What in the actual ****? The thing is, is that the Defense was hamstrung by injuries. Smith could have stepped up and delivered and he shat down his ****ing leg at the most crucial time in the game.

And the offense is missing their 11 million dollar receiver and 9 million dollar running back.

Common sense.

[rabblerouser]

The mother****er cannot wrap his brain around any of it. It's unreal.

I have him on ignore for a reason - he is literally not worth communicating with on any level.

[kcpasco]

Scan anyone, ANYONE, explain the TO at 2nd and 11 before the half?

Andy must have thought the defense was playing well.

[Bob Dole]

They gave up 19 points you ****ing moron. 7 of those on a short field.

Alex cost us the game with that awful interception.

You mean the tipped ball doing what people would be bitching about if he didn't do?

Yeah yeah milkman. Bob Dole read it.

[milkman]

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards to set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4.

now tell me, what faults did Smith have all day long that was on the level of our defense giving up 19 passing first downs??

Logic beats dumbshittery.

There is no fucking logic in this stupid fucking post.

The defense gave up 19 points.

The offense scored 17.

In spite of everything else, the fact remains that the offense failed.

The offense led by a mediocre QB.

[rabblerouser]

Scan anyone, ANYONE, explain the TO at 2nd and 11 before the half?

No.

I was baffled then, and I'm baffled now.

Just more 2 min ineptitude from Reid.

Led directly to TB getting a FG.

Classic Andy.

[Mr. Laz]

Andy must have thought the defense as playing well.

The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

[milkman]

You mean the tipped ball doing what people would be bitching about if he didn't do?

Yeah yeah milkman. Bob Dole read it.

Nor arguing with a moron of your level.

[rabblerouser]

There is no ****ing logic in this stupid ****ing post.

The defense gave up 19 points.

The offense scored 17.

In spite of everything else, the fact remains that the offense failed.

The offense led by a mediocre QB.

He won't understand. He's a fucking moron.

[New World Order]

You mean the tipped ball doing what people would be bitching about if he didn't do?

Yeah yeah milkman. Bob Dole read it.


Huh?

It's a pick even if the ball isn't tipped.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

There is no ****ing logic in this stupid ****ing post.

The defense gave up 19 points.

The offense scored 17.

In spite of everything else, the fact remains that the offense failed.

The offense led by a mediocre QB.

How is the offense supposed to score points if they don't have the ball and TB controls time of possession? Like I said Smith only had one possession that was a 3 and out and the other drive he set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line. He scored on 3 other drives which included 2 touchdowns and a missed TD opportunity by Kelce which resulted in 3. That's more than decent if you ask me.

I am just trying to compare facts, but you are giving me little to work with.

[Mr. Laz]

Fuck you. The thread spun into the Defense is to blame thread and i disagree, bitch. The offense fucked up and when the Defense needed offense the most.

Only because morons like you just cannot talk about anything but Alex Smith.

Dumbasses know so little about football that you can't comprehend anything beyond "QB misses pass, team loses game, me angry" Meatrock

:shake:

[rabblerouser]

The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

Reid also doesn't know when to run...

He also doesn't know when NOT to run.

Reid is pretty much abysmal. Dorsey has assembled a deep and talented roster...and the offensive coaching is simply subpar.

[kcpasco]

The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

Yeah that's why I couldn't believe he called a timeout. The secondary without Peters is absolute trash but Andy thought he could force a punt so he could take a knee and run out the clock himself. Andy Reid is his own worst enemy.

[TEX]

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards to set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4.
So out of 6 drives, Smith had one that harmed the team.

This is all I have to say. If you can't comprehend, call your Mom.

Only one bomb was dropped on Hiroshima...

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If you're going to sit and moan about Smith's first red zone interception in almost 30 games, you have serious problems.

[Mr. Laz]

Reid also doesn't know when to run...

He also doesn't know when NOT to run.

Reid is pretty much abysmal. Dorsey has assembled a deep and talented roster...and the coaching is simply subpar.
FYP


(imo the talent on defense is better than our results as well)

[MeatRock]

The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

Could that be because the ****ing Defense had Ford, Peters and Howard out for the game. A rusty Houston. It's always the Defense's fault for not stopping opponents. It can't be Offensive production to help TOP and actually score at critical times in the game w/o turnovers.

[New World Order]

How is the offense supposed to score points if they don't have the ball and TB controls time of possession? Like I said Smith only had one possession that was a 3 and out and the other drive he set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line. He scored on 3 other drives which included 2 touchdowns and a missed TD opportunity by Kelce which resulted in 3. That's more than decent if you ask me.

I am just trying to compare facts, but you are giving me little to work with.


By not throwing it to the other team.

[MotherfuckerJones]

No Peters, Bailey, Howard and Dee Ford left early. What ya think was going to happen?

[petegz28]

BTW, I love these lurkers that don't ever say shit but will deal out neg reps, etc.

[Mr. Laz]

Yeah that's why I couldn't believe he called a timeout. The secondary without Peters is absolute trash but Andy thought he could force a punt so he could take a knee and run out the clock himself. Andy Reid is his own worst enemy.
It was just beyond stupid.

Our defense was struggling
Our offense can't move the ball quickly even when it's not playing shitty

Yet Reid thought he should call a timeout and try to score quickly.

He is just clueless.

[MeatRock]

If you're going to sit and moan about Smith's first red zone interception in almost 30 games, you have serious problems.

How many TD throws does Smith have on the year going into week 11? Exactly!

[BryanBusby]

Are we seriously trying to give Alex a pass on that INT? It was getting picked tipped or not and that target was doubled before he ever threw it. That was stupid.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I love putting the morons in their place. You know you've won an argument when the other guy is going :

"**** you ******** moron. ***** it's so obvious. **** Smith and his stellar ball protection ..... we should have drafted Geno!! "

[notorious]

How many TD throws does Smith have on the year going into week 11? Exactly!

Hidden touchdowns bro.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

BTW, I love these lurkers that don't ever say shit but will deal out neg reps, etc.

To hell with those deplorables. You get pos rep from me for using your noggin

[New World Order]

I love putting the morons in their place. You know you've won an argument when the other guy is going :

"**** you ******** moron. ***** it's so obvious. **** Smith and his stellar ball protection ..... we should have drafted Geno!! "


The defense gave up 19. 7 of those points was on a short field because of Alex's costly interception.

You haven't put anyone in their place.

[petegz28]

No Peters, Bailey, Howard and Dee Ford left early. What ya think was going to happen?

Dude we saw similar the last couple weeks. The Jags ran all over us and if it weren't for Bortels being Bortels we lose that game.

Last week we stiffened against the run but Cam lit us up early. We finally got pressure on him and won but still...

The defense has feasted on turnovers more than anything. They aren't "stopping" people in the classic sense. We needed a stop or two today and they couldn't do it.

3rd & long, didn't matter. TB converted 3rd downs at an alarming rate.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Only because morons like you just cannot talk about anything but Alex Smith.

Dumbasses know so little about football that you can't comprehend anything beyond "QB misses pass, team loses game, me angry" Meatrock

:shake:

ROFL

[TEX]

No Peters, Bailey, Howard and Dee Ford left early. What ya think was going to happen?

Good point. And still the defense only gave up one TD. This is year 4 with the same QB and offensive system. Offense should be better. Its not. There's a reason for that...

[KevB]

If you're going to sit and moan about Smith's first red zone interception in almost 30 games, you have serious problems.

Considering how conservative we are throwing in the red zone, I'm not sure that's terribly impressive

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

3rd & long, didn't matter. TB converted 3rd downs at an alarming rate.

Yep. Chiefs were 50% on third down, Tampa Bay was 69%. The NFL average is 39%

Bucs only had to punt twice all day long. That is ridiculous.

[stevieray]

both squads sucked on third downs.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Considering how conservative we are throwing in the red zone, I'm not sure that's terribly impressive

And over that time span we have one of the best records in the league despite being in one of the most competitive divisions in all of football. Reid/Smith must be doing something right. That's why they get the millions...

[MeatRock]

Only because morons like you just cannot talk about anything but Alex Smith.

Dumbasses know so little about football that you can't comprehend anything beyond "QB misses pass, team loses game, me angry" Meatrock

:shake:

Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is fucked up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:

[petegz28]

Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is ****ed up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:

Injuries or not, dude we missed a shitload of tackles today.

[kcpasco]

The offense is also missing their starting guard, number 1 wr and rb.

[MeatRock]

Injuries or not, dude we missed a shitload of tackles today.

I agree, but the defense can't play lights out every game. It's just not going to happen. When is our offense going to put a game on its back? When?

[Discuss Thrower]

It's the defense's fault they couldn't keep the other team under 10 points.

[KevB]

Good point. And still the defense only gave up one TD. This is year 4 with the same QB and offensive system. Offense should be better. Its not. There's a reason for that...

Exactly, with the defense hurting, the offense needed to step up. Alex isn't that guy if he isn't going to be a threat with his legs. Otoh, our running game should also be criticized. We haven't run well since the Oakland game.

[petegz28]

I agree, but the defense can't play lights out every game. It's just not going to happen. When is our offense going to put a game on its back? When?

I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

[oaklandhater]

The offense is also missing their starting guard, number 1 wr and rb.

Can we stop saying we are missing our number 1 rb Jc is done ware is number 1 now and for the foreseeable future

[MeatRock]

I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

Yet Smith doesn't score enough touchdowns to warrant the terrible Interceptions he throws at crucial times either.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

Ditto.

[Buns]

Like I said Smith only had one possession that was a 3 and out and the other drive he set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line.

What the fuck does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

[Reerun_KC]

What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

Wait what?

[New World Order]

What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?


LMAO

Tigerbob thinks the job of a quarterback is to set the punter up so he can give the defense good field position.

[notorious]

What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

ROFL

[MeatRock]

What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

ROFL

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is ****ed up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:

Yet we still have parker, berry, Poe, Houston (fwiw), Ford (half game) and guys who have made big plays this season in Nelson and Sorenson. It's not like we were up against the Saints or Falcons.

Tell me how that isn't enough to at least keep the Bucs to a league average on 3rd down percentage?


Please explain

[Mr. Laz]

The only thing that makes blackbob annoying is the stupid fuckers who can't stop arguing with him.

He is just another homer until the obsessed guys go nuts about him.

Just use ignore instead and make the board better for everyone ...... please.

[KevB]

And over that time span we have one of the best records in the league despite being in one of the most competitive divisions in all of football. Reid/Smith must be doing something right. That's why they get the millions...

We can without question be a competitive team with this formula. We're not winning a Super Bowl this way though. And most people know it.

[oaklandhater]

Holy shit defending Alex by saying he set up the punter you're such a joke tiger. LMAO

[notorious]

Brady sucks at setting up the punter.

[FringeNC]

We almost stole another one despite getting outplayed. Third down conversion differential was the story of the game. Some of that is luck, but not all of it.

This is one of the VERY few losses of the Reid era where the O-line didn't get dominated. (Unfortunately, the defense did.) It's weird losing games when Alex isn't running for his life.

It's now going to be harder to get the #2 seed, unfortunately, which is a pretty big fucking deal.

[MeatRock]

Fucking bizzaro land. That's what we get though, a QB setting up a punter. Holy mother of christ.

[mcaj22]

you're really grasping at straws if your defense of Alex Smith is some invisible stat where he sets up the punter.

10 weeks in and that's the type of excuses we are getting. I can't wait for next weeks creative out for Alex Smith

[MeatRock]

Yet we still have parker, berry, Poe, Houston (fwiw), Ford (half game) and guys who have made big plays this season in Nelson and Sorenson. It's not like we were up against the Saints or Falcons.

Tell me how that isn't enough to at least keep the Bucs to a league average on 3rd down percentage?


Please explain

How long was the Defense on the field today? How many 3 and outs did the offense have including a turnover taken to the 50 yard line? Get bent.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

We can without question be a competitive team with this formula. We're not winning a Super Bowl this way though. And most people know it.

Then again we went into Foxboro last season without a healthy Houston, Ware, Maclin, and Charles and made it a competitive game.

Reid and Dorsey put the pieces there but there is only so much in their control. Injuries have hampered us but unlike the Chargers, we sit at 7-3 competing for a first round bye.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

How long was the Defense on the field today? How many 3 and outs did the offense have including a turnover taken to the 50 yard line? Get bent.

You're late to the party. Go home scrub.

[rabblerouser]

By not throwing it to the other team.

Yeah, especially in the end zone, when even a FG can be enough to win...you try to throw to the guys on your team. Not the guys on the other team.

That's the most obvious way.

[Bob Dole]

Yet we still have parker, berry, Poe, Houston (fwiw), Ford (half game) and guys who have made big plays this season in Nelson and Sorenson. It's not like we were up against the Saints or Falcons.

Tell me how that isn't enough to at least keep the Bucs to a league average on 3rd down percentage?


Please explain

Let's see... Nelson got pushed off the entire game, and when he tried to stand up to it, he got flagged. And Evans got a pass on a 2-hand shove on Parker, who had position, which would have moved them back on the Andy Reid field goal at the end of the half.

[MeatRock]

You're late to the party. Go home scrub.

Get fucked cocksucker.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

you're really grasping at straws if your defense of Alex Smith is some invisible stat where he sets up the punter.

10 weeks in and that's the type of excuses we are getting. I can't wait for next weeks creative out for Alex Smith

If the offense moves the ball 39 yards but is held to 4th down, regardless of starting position, you have the opportunity to control field position and/or kick a field goal depending on where you start the drive. Is this hard to comprehend?

You realize football is a game of strategy that doesn't play under the rules of fantasy football, yea?

[rabblerouser]

I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

Andy Reid called a terrible game, encapsulated in that one particular play.

[rabblerouser]

Let's see... Nelson got pushed off the entire game, and when he tried to stand up to it, he got flagged. And Evans got a pass on a 2-hand shove on Parker, who had position, which would have moved them back on the Andy Reid field goal at the end of the half.

They picked the flag on Evans up, even though the foul was flagrant.

[Mr. Laz]

Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is fucked up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:
Bitch, i've forgotten more than you'll ever know about football.

I know that the game of football is about more than just the QB.

People were talking about great Winston was today and yet change 2 plays and Alex Smith's numbers were almost exactly the same as his.

Passing _ Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
J. Winston 24 39 331 _ 1 _ 0
A. Smith _ 24 31 261 _ 1 _ 1

If the difference between great and 'shittiest ever' is only a tipped pass and a dropped ball then something else is wrong.

[MeatRock]

If the offense moves the ball 39 yards but is held to 4th down, regardless of starting position, you have the opportunity to control field position and/or kick a field goal depending on where you start the drive. Is this hard to comprehend?

You realize football is a game of strategy that doesn't play under the rules of fantasy football, yea?

I'm glad we have a Quarterback that can set up our punter. Brilliant take on the game there tigerbob.:clap:

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Let's see... Nelson got pushed off the entire game, and when he tried to stand up to it, he got flagged. And Evans got a pass on a 2-hand shove on Parker, who had position, which would have moved them back on the Andy Reid field goal at the end of the half.

The officiating was easily the worst of the year. I usually go back and re-watch games to evaluate players but I just know the excessive no calls will tick me off.

[Mr. Laz]

They picked the flag on Evans up, even though the foul was flagrant.
Foul was not flagrant

should have been an OPI though

[New World Order]

I'm glad we have a Quarterback that can set up our punter. Brilliant take on the game there tigerbob.:clap:

LMAO

This is just too funny

[Mr. Laz]

Hoculi always shitty and we almost always get the shaft when he calls our games.

Worst is when Hoculi refs a Chiefs/Bronco game ... terrible ... no lube ... dry all the way

[MeatRock]

Bitch, i've forgotten more than you'll ever know about football.

I know that the game of football is about more than just the QB.

People were talking about great Winston was today and yet change 2 plays and Alex Smith's numbers were almost exactly the same as his.

Passing _ Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
J. Winston 24 39 331 _ 1 _ 0
A. Smith _ 24 31 261 _ 1 _ 1

If the difference between great and 'shittiest ever' is only a tipped pass and a dropped ball then something else is wrong.

It's always just if this happened, or change 2 plays and this. Fuck your what ifs. Smith had a chance to win the game after the Defense bent but didn't break and he failed. End of story.

[RunKC]

They "abused" us for 19 points.

People need to quit blaming the defense when they are relied on every game to win it for us. They are bound to give up plays at some point.

The offense has won us how many game this year? 1?

[MeatRock]

Seven point swing from that pick in the end zone. You must have forgotten points off turnovers in that insane knowledge you claim to have forgotten.

[SAUTO]

So when Reid calls for 3 runs in a row to open up the 2nd series leading to a punt, that's on Smith? Cool. Or how Kelce missed a pass that could've went for a TD... Your dumbshittery needs to be wiped and flushed for eternity

Smith played a game that we can expect from him. The defense was pitiful.
You always want to flush everyone that's been here forever.

Here's a board just for you, your brother wouldprobably enjoy some company.

http://royalsplanet.com/forum/royalsplanet/royalsplanet-lounge

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I'm glad we have a Quarterback that can set up our punter. Brilliant take on the game there tigerbob.:clap:

Holy shit you are dumb. Are you really implying that every offensive drive must result in points in order to win a game? Did Montana/brady/young/manning score on every single drive and when they didn't did their team lose?

If you can't comprehend that moving the football in the positive direction is still production in the overall strategy of football, then you are a lost cause. There is a reason why Colquitt is one of the highest paid punters you asshat.

I like days like this because it really shows the contrast in intelligence to be found on CP. Only the deplorables come in full force on days like this.

[oaklandhater]

They "abused" us for 19 points.

People need to quit blaming the defense when they are relied on every game to win it for us. They are bound to give up plays at some point.

The offense has won us how many game this year? 1?

The defenseive bias on this game is insane the offense is ranked 28th you morons den is 16th there is almost nothing redeemable about this offense and it's not just injuries that's causing them to suck

[MeatRock]

Holy shit you are dumb. Are you really implying that every offensive drive must result in points in order to win a game? Did Montana/brady/young/manning score on every single drive and when they didn't did their team lose?

If you can't comprehend that moving the football in the positive direction is still production in the overall strategy of football, then you are a lost cause. There is a reason why Colquitt is one of the highest paid punters you asshat.

I like days like this because it really shows the contrast in intelligence to be found on CP. Only the deplorables come in full force on days like this.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

[SAUTO]

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards to set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4.
So out of 6 drives, Smith had one that harmed the team.

This is all I have to say. If you can't comprehend, call your Mom. You are calling a possession that ends in a punt a positive...

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I hurt your feelings? Yes?

[SAUTO]

How is the offense supposed to score points if they don't have the ball and TB controls time of possession? Like I said Smith only had one possession that was a 3 and out and the other drive he set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line. He scored on 3 other drives which included 2 touchdowns and a missed TD opportunity by Kelce which resulted in 3. That's more than decent if you ask me.

I am just trying to compare facts, but you are giving me little to work with.
I can't get over the line "Alex Smith set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line"...

That's not a positive you fucking idiot. Absolutely not a positive

[MeatRock]

I can't get over the line "Alex Smith set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line"...

That's not a positive you ****ing idiot. Absolutely not a positive

:D

[SAUTO]

I hurt your feelings? Yes?

No, you are hurting your family's feelings. They are wondering how they are related to you at this point.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

CP deplorables ->" field position is not a thing. Colquitt makes big money because he is cute. I like turtles."

[Bob Dole]

They picked the flag on Evans up, even though the foul was flagrant.

Kind of Bob Dole's point.

[Meatloaf]

Ok, guys, not sure where to put this observation about Alex Smith, but I figure a thread that's about the defense is as good of a place as any!

Anyway, not sure if you guys heard Smith's post-game interview? As much as I'd agree that he's a mediocre (or worse) QB, I'll give the guy one thing. He's one sharp dude. His answers to questions were very well thought out, and his observations about the game were insightful. One item that I remember was his comment about the significance of us going 3 and out twice after our first drive. He felt that those were opportunities missed that could've changed the nature of the game early on.

Of course, he owned up to the endzone interception as he said he lost sight of the safety. Heck, I don't think he even said anything about it being tipped.

I guess my point here is that Alex is a sharp guy who probably has a better feel for the game that I give him credit for. I'm also wondering if some of his reluctance to "take chances" is possibly Reid-driven as Andy also seems risk averse. So maybe, just maybe, just a tad of Alex's overly careful demeanor is encouraged by Reid?

In sum, I was impressed by Smith's interview and responses. Just wish he'd adopt a more aggressive game. Damn, he really is an enigma.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If you're on the same side as Sauto, Oak, and Rabble in an argument you should re-evaluate your life.

Yes, MeatRock. I'm looking at you. It's not too late to get that degree .

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Ok, guys, not sure where to put this observation about Alex Smith, but I figure a thread that's about the defense is as good of a place as any!

Anyway, not sure if you guys heard Smith's post-game interview? As much as I'd agree that he's a mediocre (or worse) QB, I'll give the guy one thing. He's one sharp dude. His answers to questions were very well thought out, and his observations about the game were insightful. One item that I remember was his comment about the significance of us going 3 and out twice after our first drive. He felt that those were opportunities missed that could've changed the nature of the game early on.

Of course, he owned up to the endzone interception as he said he lost sight of the safety. Heck, I don't think he even said anything about it being tipped.

I guess my point here is that Alex is a sharp guy who probably has a better feel for the game that I give him credit for. I'm also wondering if some of his reluctance to "take chances" is possibly Reid-driven as Andy also seems risk averse. So maybe, just maybe, just a tad of Alex's overly careful demeanor is encouraged by Reid?

In sum, I was impressed by Smith's interview and responses. Just wish he'd adopt a more aggressive game. Damn, he really is an enigma.

Ditto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxQA2znHiDo

San Fran gave us a guy who went 20-5-1 under Harbaugh... but the idiots on this forum want us to gamble on the next Geno Smith.

[MeatRock]

If you're on the same side as Sauto, Oak, and Rabble in an argument you should re-evaluate your life.

Yes, MeatRock. I'm looking at you. It's not too late to get that degree .

Don't look at me, i don't want to lose brain cells from your moronic stare.

[Mr. Laz]

It's always just if this happened, or change 2 plays and this. Fuck your what ifs. Smith had a chance to win the game after the Defense bent but didn't break and he failed. End of story.
and the defense had a chance to win the game if they could ever stop the bucs

they didn't

Andy had a chance to win the game if he wasn't an idiot

he didn't

[oaklandhater]

If you're on the same side as Sauto, Oak, and Rabble in an argument you should re-evaluate your life.

Yes, MeatRock. I'm looking at you. It's not too late to get that degree .

How your troll ass is allowed to keep posting here but clay is banned is beyond Comprehension

[SAUTO]

CP deplorables ->" field position is not a thing. Colquitt makes big money because he is cute. I like turtles."

Scoring more points is the most important thing.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Don't look at me, i don't want to lose brain cells from your moronic stare.

Sorry I hurt your feelings dude. It's just a game.

[MeatRock]

and the defense had a chance to win the game if they could ever stop the bucs

they didn't

Andy had a chance to win the game if he wasn't an idiot

he didn't

Oh but they did. Multiple times in the red zone. Held them to what 4 FG's? That's fucking decent on a bad day. Tell me what the offense did again after those stops?

[oaklandhater]

Ditto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxQA2znHiDo

San Fran gave us a guy who went 20-5-1 under Harbaugh... but the idiots on this forum want us to gamble on the next Geno Smith.

We are ranked 28th total offense 2 years in a row we are pushing for worse offense in the league the Alex smith experiment should be over by this point

[oaklandhater]

Oh but they did. Multiple times in the red zone. Held them to what 4 FG's? That's ****ing decent on a bad day. Tell me what the offense did again after those stops?

This question will go unanswered by bob dole bass and tiger it's mind blowing

[Mr. Laz]

Oh but they did. Multiple times in the red zone. Held them to what 4 FG's? That's fucking decent on a bad day. Tell me what the offense did again after those stops?
Offense scored enough points to win if Andy Reid and the defense hadn't given up a field goal right before half when they shouldn't have.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Oh but they did. Multiple times in the red zone. Held them to what 4 FG's? That's ****ing decent on a bad day. Tell me what the offense did again after those stops?

Or maybe you don't give up 24 first downs, 19 of which were on passes.

Common sense, use it.

[Mr. Laz]

This question will go unanswered by bob dole bass and tiger it's mind blowing

already answered it, you cock munch

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Offense scored enough points to win if Andy Reid and the defense hadn't given up a field goal right before half when they shouldn't have.

Good point. This is a team we beat 4/5 times. NFL isn't college football, every team has a fair chance to win every sunday and we fed TB so many opportunities.

[SAUTO]

I guarantee there was no drive that started out and the coaches and players thought "man I sure hope we can set up colquitt for a chance to pin them deep"

If that's not the intent it was not a successful drive, therefore not a positive for Alex Smith

[MeatRock]

Offense scored enough points to win if Andy Reid and the defense hadn't given up a field goal right before half when they shouldn't have.

Or the Defense did just enough that we could have won if the offense doesn't turn the ball over in the end zone, then ran back to the 50. Seven point swing off a turnover into triple coverage.

[oaklandhater]

already answered it, you cock munch

Not with any reasonable answer other then the offense sucks and it's not good enough I've not seen one of them say it

[Mr. Laz]

Not with any reasonable answer other then the offense sucks and it's not good enough I've not seen one of them say it

true or false, if tampa doesn't score 3 pts because of Andy Reids timeout stupidity and the Defense not making a stop it changes the 19-17 loss.

[SAUTO]

true or false, if tampa doesn't score 3 pts because of Andy Reids timeout stupidity and the Defense not making a stop it changes the 19-17 loss.

True.

True or false, IF Alex Smith holds that ball that gets int'd in double coverage and we kick a fg it changes the 19-17 loss.

[oaklandhater]

true or false, if tampa doesn't score 3 pts because of Andy Reids timeout stupidity and the Defense not making a stop it changes the 19-17 loss.

Even if we won Tampa's defense sucks and it would have been another game of the defense carrying this shit offense we are ranked 28th on offense and there has zero signs of that improving true or false ?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Or the Defense did just enough that we could have won if the offense doesn't turn the ball over in the end zone, then ran back to the 50. Seven point swing off a turnover into triple coverage.

Seattle Seahawks average offensive yards/game: 342 Rank = 20
Kansas City Chiefs average offensive yards/game: 333 Rank = 26
NFL league average: 352


Offensive production does not equal wins. This takes a decent level of intelligence to understand. So I would advise you call your Mom over to explain if this is too complicated for you

[oaklandhater]

Seattle Seahawks average offensive yards/game: 342 Rank = 20
Kansas City Chiefs average offensive yards/game: 333 Rank = 26
NFL league average: 352


Offensive production does not equal wins. This takes a decent level of intelligence to understand. So I would advise you call your Mom over to explain if this is too complicated for you


Seahawks have a way better defense then we do.

[SAUTO]

Where are the pats and raiders in offensive production?

Nice cherry pick bob.

[MeatRock]

Seattle Seahawks average offensive yards/game: 342 Rank = 20
Kansas City Chiefs average offensive yards/game: 333 Rank = 26
NFL league average: 352


Offensive production does not equal wins. This takes a decent level of intelligence to understand. So I would advise you call your Mom over to explain if this is too complicated for you

:shake:

[Bob Dole]

true or false, if tampa doesn't score 3 pts because of Andy Reids timeout stupidity and the Defense not making a stop it changes the 19-17 loss.

True or false: if Andy Reid doesn't call a TO on 2nd and 11 with the clock running, TB doesn't kick a FG at the end of the first half.

[New World Order]

Seattle Seahawks average offensive yards/game: 342 Rank = 20
Kansas City Chiefs average offensive yards/game: 333 Rank = 26
NFL league average: 352


Offensive production does not equal wins. This takes a decent level of intelligence to understand. So I would advise you call your Mom over to explain if this is too complicated for you


So why do you keep bringing up Winston's yards today?

God.

[SAUTO]

So why do you keep bringing up Winston's yards today?

God.

Because that offensive production won the game, totally making his point. Duh!

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Or the Defense did just enough that we could have won if the offense doesn't turn the ball over in the end zone, then ran back to the 50. Seven point swing off a turnover into triple coverage.

Or maybe the defense doesn't give up 24 first downs to the other team? :shrug:

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

:shake:

Last 4 Superbowl winners...
Denver Broncos ranked 16th in offensive yards/game
New England Pats ranked 11th in offensive yards/game
Seattle Seahawks ranked 17th in offensive yards/game
Baltimore Ravens ranked 16th in offensive yards/game

[RunKC]

Chiefs had 2 TD's and the ball inside the 10 2X. We should have scored 4 TD's.

IDGAF about 3rd downs given up by the defense. They gave up 19 points. FFS the NFL average points given up is like 22 PPG.

[KCUnited]

True or False: Winston sets up his punter to pin us deep in our own end instead of scoring pts, Chiefs win.

[SAUTO]

Last 4 Superbowl winners...
Denver Broncos ranked 16th in offensive yards/game
New England Pats ranked 11th in offensive yards/game
Seattle Seahawks ranked 17th in offensive yards/game
Baltimore Ravens ranked 16th in offensive yards/game

Where were they at in points scored?

That's the REAL issue here, we can't get it in the end zone.

But deflect all you want.

[New World Order]

Because that offensive production won the game, totally making his point. Duh!


He always brushes off Alex's lack of yards as meaningless "fantasy football" stats.

Suddenly, it's the most important stat of the day.

[SAUTO]

Chiefs had 2 TD's and the ball inside the 10 2X. We should have scored 4 TD's.

IDGAF about 3rd downs given up by the defense. They gave up 19 points. FFS the NFL average points given up is like 22 PPG.

But we were over the average in third down conversions on offense.

Checkmate.

[MeatRock]

Points off turnovers. Hard to win with that along with a bunch of 3 and outs. No chance to keep the Buc's offense off the field and rest the Defense. The offense did nothing to control the game.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

True or False: Winston sets up his punter to pin us deep in our own end instead of scoring pts, Chiefs win.

You understand field position is part of the game of football and an offense that moves the ball 40 yards down the field puts their team in favorable position regardless if points are scored?

Or do we have special teams there to make sure the owners don't keep all the money to themselves?

Not sure if you are an idiot or just a clay level troll ....or both

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Chiefs had 2 TD's and the ball inside the 10 2X. We should have scored 4 TD's.

IDGAF about 3rd downs given up by the defense. They gave up 19 points. FFS the NFL average points given up is like 22 PPG.

You want the offense to put up points but how much can you expect if the other team controls time of possession 35 to 25 as a result of their ability to create first downs?

[petegz28]

Points off turnovers. Hard to win with that along with a bunch of 3 and outs. No chance to keep the Buc's offense off the field and rest the Defense. The offense did nothing to control the game.

Uh, that's not entirely true. The defense did little to get themselves off the field.

[SAUTO]

You understand field position is part of the game of football and an offense that moves the ball 40 yards down the field puts their team in favorable position regardless if points are scored?

Or do we have special teams there to make sure the owners don't keep all the money to themselves?

Not sure if you are an idiot or just a clay level troll ....or both

Ok, say we do that every drive do we win or lose?

[SAUTO]

You want the offense to put up points but how much can you expect if the other team controls time of possession 35 to 25 as a result of their ability to create first downs?

Well I think his post explained how he expected more points scored.

[MeatRock]

Uh, that's not entirely true. The defense did little to get themselves off the field.

We knew Mike Evans would own whatever corner we had covering outside of Peters. It happened. Defense did themselves no favors, but holding them to FG's was an accomplishment.

[KCUnited]

You understand field position is part of the game of football and an offense that moves the ball 40 yards down the field puts their team in favorable position regardless if points are scored?

Or do we have special teams there to make sure the owners don't keep all the money to themselves?

Not sure if you are an idiot or just a clay level troll ....or both

You realize you trade picks and extend QBs to pick up critical 3rd downs and not set up the punter right, or did the lack of oxygen to your brain from your uncle's cock lodged down your throat stunt your development?

[Mr. Laz]

True or false: if Andy Reid doesn't call a TO on 2nd and 11 with the clock running, TB doesn't kick a FG at the end of the first half.
Isn't that what i just said?

That was my point, are you agreeing with me?

[Beef Supreme]

Make no mistake, nobody thinks the defense played great today. They did not play well. They still held the opposing team to 19 points. The offense didn't step up and do their part. The defense has won so many games for this team, how about the offense do their fucking part for once.

[Mr. Laz]

True.

True or false, IF Alex Smith holds that ball that gets int'd in double coverage and we kick a fg it changes the 19-17 loss.
True, definitely

My point is that there was more than one reason we lost the game.

Of course Alex Smith's terrible pass for an interception was one of those reasons.

[petegz28]

Here's where the defense hurt us today....

Field position...
3rd down conversions...
Stops on critical downs...

They couldn't hold them at the half...
They couldn't keep them out of the endzone after the INT...
They couldn't get a stop at the end of the game when we needed it on 3rd down..

Save one drive, the Bucs didn't have great starting field position the entire game. In fact, one of their drives started on their own 4 yard line and they just waltzed right down the field. The only times they didn't score was when Winston dropped the ball and when they got called for a holding penalty.

Other than that, the Bucs had their way with our defense today. On the ground, in the air, 3rd and long, didn't matter.

The offense left 11 points on the field, no questions about it. But the defense was not good at all today. I think the score is not indicative of how bad they played. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.

[oaklandhater]

Make no mistake, nobody thinks the defense played great today. They did not play well. They still held the opposing team to 19 points. The offense didn't step up and do their part. The defense has won so many games for this team, how about the offense do their ****ing part for once.


This is really all that needs to be said out offense is ranked 28th there is no defending it anymore.

[RunKC]

You want the offense to put up points but how much can you expect if the other team controls time of possession 35 to 25 as a result of their ability to create first downs?

That doesn't matter. Score TD's when you have the ball inside the 5

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

You realize you trade picks and extend QBs to pick up critical 3rd downs and not set up the punter right, or did the lack of oxygen to your brain from your uncle's cock lodged down your throat stunt your development?

Is this the only logical thought you could create? To even think that we have to score on every drive is the only way to win is laughable. Thanks for showing us your 5th grade intelligence bud by not understanding football strategy.

The offense and special teams did the defense a favor pinning the Bucs inside the 4 after they had just moved the ball 40 yards... but the defense went on to **** up the field position game by allowing the Bucs to move the ball 60 yards.

[SAUTO]

True, definitely

My point is that there was more than one reason we lost the game.

Of course Alex Smith's terrible pass for an interception was one of those reasons.

I agree the defense isn't blameless but when you hold a team to 19 points at home you should win

[petegz28]

We knew Mike Evans would own whatever corner we had covering outside of Peters. It happened. Defense did themselves no favors, but holding them to FG's was an accomplishment.

We had 0 pressure today. None. Nada. Zip. Nothing up the middle. Sutton was either scared to call a blitz or we didn't execute them. I rarely saw any kid of LB blitzes or S blitzes.

We had several tackles for losses or short gains that we missed. All of their WR's were open all game. We can say we held them to 19 points but we can also be lucky we didn't give up 30+.

Defense was on the field way to much and most of it was their own fault in this case.

[petegz28]

That doesn't matter. Score TD's when you have the ball inside the 5

That's frustrating there. I lay a lot of that on Reid and Kelce. Yeah, Smith threw the INT but that rarely happens. Bad play calls and dropped balls have been a plague throughout the season.

[MeatRock]

The number one priority for an offense is to score points. Period. If you are on the 5 yard line 1st and goal. You better score a fucking TD.

[The Franchise]

That's frustrating there. I lay a lot of that on Reid and Kelce. Yeah, Smith threw the INT but that rarely happens. Bad play calls and dropped balls have been a plague throughout the season.

Oh fuck you. You'll blame Kelce but not Smith?

[SAUTO]

Is this the only logical thought you could create? To even think that we have to score on every drive is the only way to win is laughable.
Not every drive, an nfl team should score when they get inside the ten years line on a much better than 50% clip though.

[KCUnited]

Is this the only logical thought you could create? To even think that we have to score on every drive is the only way to win is laughable. Thanks for showing us your 5th grade intelligence bud by not understanding football strategy.

The offense and special teams did the defense a favor pinning the Bucs inside the 4 after they had just moved the ball 40 yards... but the defense went on to **** up the field position game by allowing the Bucs to move the ball 60 yards.

I don't think we need to score on every drive you helmet wearing shitlord. I'm laugh at you for praising a QB for setting up the fucking punter. You are praising the 2nd highest paid player on the team for doing the bare fucking minimum.

[petegz28]

Oh **** you. You'll blame Kelce but not Smith?

That's not what I said, now is it?

[SAUTO]

The number one priority for an offense is to score points. Period. If you are on the 5 yard line 1st and goal. You better score a fucking TD.

At least a fg

[petegz28]

The number one priority for an offense is to score points. Period. If you are on the 5 yard line 1st and goal. You better score a ****ing TD.

I don't know why Reid decides to trick teams when we are inside the 10? Smash the ball ahead, or bootleg, etc. But the crafty TE sweep or sideways 5 yards behind the LOS have killed us.

[The Franchise]

That's not what I said, now is it?

Uh yeah. You'll lay the blame on Reid and Kelce but Smith gets a pass because he hardly throws INTs.

[oaklandhater]

At least a fg

When you are in the redzone you need to come away with a fg or a td anything else is a failure.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I don't think we need to score on every drive you helmet wearing shitlord. I'm laugh at you for praising a QB for setting up the ****ing punter. You are praising the 2nd highest paid player on the team for doing the bare ****ing minimum.

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[MeatRock]

Smith doesn't throw enough TD's to be exonerated for his Picks. Period!

[petegz28]

Uh yeah. You'll lay the blame on Reid and Kelce but Smith gets a pass because he hardly throws INTs.

Try less stupid and slower reading...you might actually understand what I said.

[petegz28]

Smith doesn't throw enough TD's to be exonerated for his Picks. Period!

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

[oaklandhater]

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

28TH RANKED OFFENSE ITS A DUMPSTER FIRE!!!!!!!

[Rasputin]

I think Peters was a notable missing piece to this defense he adds another dimension that creates the rest of the defense to play with swag. The defense lacked swag today.

It was nice to see Houston out there but he needs to get into football shape to do the things he is capable of doing but he will soon enough I believe in him getting back at 100% with few games under his belt.

This defense is still top notch just the offense has got to do something to put points on the score bored for the defense to defend.

[Beef Supreme]

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

We needed our defense to win the game for us. Again.

They didn't.

When is the offense going to win a game for us?

[New World Order]

Offense is definitely an ugly thing to watch.

No argument there.

[The Franchise]

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

Yeah. We were still in the game....because the defense kept us there. If they were as bad as you said they were....we would have been down by more than 3 scores.

[oaklandhater]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-seeing-red-after-loss-hurts-chances-to-win-tight-afc-west-race-220558032.html


Chiefs seeing red after loss hurts chances to win tight AFC West race

If the Kansas City Chiefs are going to emerge from the three-card monte that is the AFC West, they’re going to have to avoid two things: losing to teams below them and missing on chances to score points.

Both happened Sunday.

The Chiefs inexplicably blew a chance to push the Denver Broncos and Oakland Raiders, playing later in Week 11, with a game they should have won. But the Tampa Bay Buccaneers — imagine this — were the more poised and efficient team on Sunday in a 19-17 win over the Chiefs.

That’s saying a lot. The Bucs have been a wild affair this season, replete with turnovers, defensive breakdowns and The Roberto Aguayo Experience. But Aguyao, on a day when kickers lost their ability to kick league-wide, was a perfect 4-of-4, and the Chiefs couldn’t count on them beating themselves.

Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs lost a tough game Sunday. (AP)
Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs lost a tough game Sunday. (AP)
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This is a team that had won 10 straight at Arrowhead, but the Chiefs are just not a dynamic offensive team right now. In addition to bogging down in the red zone (2-for-4 on Sunday, after 0-for-6 the previous two games), they also gave away points when Alex Smith was picked in the end zone by Bucs safety Chris Conte with 12 minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

That was a back breaker, and Smith couldn’t get the ball back in time to make a charge for a late field goal. It might not have mattered. The Chiefs ran 52 plays Sunday, and 49 of them went for 17 yards or shorter. Jeremy Maclin’s absence made a difference, but even with him on the field the Chiefs can’t afford to not capitalize on drive and give teams such as the Buccaneers chances.

Despite some shaky moments from Jameis Winston, he often diced the Chiefs up. The Bucs converted 69 percent of their third-down attempts against the Chiefs, which — like their red-zone troubles on offense — is a disturbing trend that is going on three weeks now.

Now the Chiefs have four of their final six games against AFC West teams. The good news is that they can take care of business in games that matter more than this one. The bad news? They’ll have a very hard time doing so with efforts such as these.

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Eric Edholm is a writer for Shutdown Corner on Yahoo Sports. Have a tip? Email him at edholm@yahoo-inc.com or follow him on Twitter!


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[SAUTO]

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

Or one fg instead of an int