Pay the man

[DaFace]

I was on the Poe over Berry team prior to the season, but it's undeniable at this point that Berry is a game changer for us, on and off the field. Dorsey needs to get this done.

[notorious]

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[BlackHelicopters]

Pay Berry!

[RunKC]

Pay both

[dirk digler]

Yep. He has earned it

[Sandy Vagina]

**** it, pay him.

[Discuss Thrower]

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[-King-]

Pay Berry. Franchise Poe.

But yeah, Berry should be the priority. I don't have any voice left after yelling during that 2 point return.

[hometeam]

yes

[Buehler445]

Agreed. Especially with Poe's back problems.

[Hamwallet]

Pay Berry first. I was all about Poe as well but it's pretty damn clear at this point if it comes down to picking one.

[TimBone]

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[mdchiefsfan]

Berry is essential to this team. Yes, he is in a less valuable position than other defensive positions, but you can't put a price tag on how clutch and reliable that guy is.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If Berry performs like he's in his front of his hometown each week then he's a top 3 safety IMO

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Welcome aboard the Berry wagon, everyone... :D

[ModSocks]

Pffff. Berry over Poe? Never shoulda even been in question.

This team is winning because their big time play makers are making big plays in big games. You start letting the star players rot away and you'll start losing games like these.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Berry is essential to this team. Yes, he is in a less valuable position than other defensive positions, but you can't put a price tag on how clutch and reliable that guy is.

Locker room leader for sure. Similar to what we are paying Tamba to stick around...

[carcosa]

$1 billion per year

[Unsmooth-Moment]

Pay him

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[CapsLockKey]

Yep. I was on the pay Poe first team as well. But Berry is earning that new deal like a boss.

[milkman]

Great, big time plays by Berry, no question.

But a big reason this Chiefs team didn't get blown out in the first half was Poe was getting penetration and pressure on critical defensive plays in the red zone.

[Pointer19]

He's earned every bit of his paycheck.

[Chiefnj2]

Berry's agent is very happy .

[cdcox]

He has won two games for us this season.

[Marcellus]

Yup yup.

[Eleazar]

If Poe is healthy, and you have to choose between them, you still have to pay Poe. No disrespect for Berry, he's playing well right now, but a dominant DT is harder to find and is more of a difference making position. And I think Poe is a more dominating DT than Berry is a Safety. But certainly keeping either one long-term would be nice for our franchise.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Can't even imagine him in another uniform at this point, and I was indifferent at the start of the season. He's the heart of the defense.

[Buehler445]

If Poe is healthy, and you have to choose between them, you still have to pay Poe. No disrespect for Berry, he's playing well right now, but a dominant DT is harder to find and is more of a difference making position. And I think Poe is a more dominating DT than Berry is a Safety. But certainly keeping either one long-term would be nice for our franchise.

I'm not getting behind a 300 lb DT with back problems getting Suh money.

[seamonster]

OK so I was put on platnium based chemotherapy "heavy metal drugs" (three different types) and after the four rounds of Chemo I could barely walk up a flight of stairs without passing out. Watching berry come back from cancer treatment and play like some sort of Hall of Famer is like watching lance armstrong win tours (forgetting the blood dopping and steroid cocktails part). Berry's reached mythological status in my mind at this point.

[mnchiefsguy]

I'm not getting behind a 300 lb DT with back problems getting Suh money.

As much as I love Poe.....his back problems are a big red flag.

Pay Berry the money.

[ThaVirus]

Great, big time plays by Berry, no question.

But a big reason this Chiefs team didn't get blown out in the first half was Poe was getting penetration and pressure on critical defensive plays in the red zone.

This right here.

At this point I'm still unsure of what we should do.

[Eleazar]

I'm not getting behind a 300 lb DT with back problems getting Suh money.

I agree, I was just saying that if they were confident Poe was healthy, I'd pick Poe.

[Molitoth]

As much as I love Poe.....his back problems are a big red flag.

Pay Berry the money.

Yup.

[Chief Roundup]

I'm not getting behind a 300 lb DT with back problems getting Suh money.

This statement is so stupid and said way to often. Poe will not and should not receive "Suh" type money.
A lot of you are letting your fear control what is reality.

[ThaVirus]

Part of me hopes Dorsey has something up his sleeve to let one walk or get some kind of killer bargain deal on Poe because $12-14m per year for Berry and an assumed $8-14m per year for Poe would wreck our cap.

Even with Peters on a rookie deal and DJ and Hali coming off the books, that could hamper us in what basically amounts to a war of attrition over a 16 game season.

We'll also need to make a determination on Ford here soon.

[NJChiefsFan]

Nobody was happier with Berry today than Peters. He probably wouldn't have slept dropping that pick.

[RealSNR]

Part of me hopes Dorsey has something up his sleeve to let one walk or get some kind of killer bargain deal on Poe because $12-14m per year for Berry and an assumed $8-14m per year for Poe would wreck our cap.

Even with Peters on a rookie deal and DJ and Hali coming off the books, that could hamper us in what basically amounts to a war of attrition over a 16 game season.

We'll also need to make a determination on Ford here soon.

Take the 5th year option and see what the cards hold for us after 2018.

[philfree]

He's the new Ed Reed. Maybe better.

[stevieray]

29 points for the win.

[jspchief]

He's the new Ed Reed. Maybe better.
It's too early to make that claim, but his play the last few weeks has really reminded me of Reed.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Definitely too early to compare to Reed

[O.city]

Bet in himself and it's paid off.

Dude is on another level and impertinent to the defense

[Buehler445]

This statement is so stupid and said way to often. Poe will not and should not receive "Suh" type money.
A lot of you are letting your fear control what is reality.

What? You serious? With his productivity and his capacity to get in the backfield is going to make him a rich man. What he does has value. That's why Sutton plays him 45 trillion snaps a game.

He's going to get his, it just needs to be from someone else.

If he comes cheap, I'll shit a brick.

[Mr. Laz]

If Berry keeps making plays in the passing game he will get the money somewhere.

[DaneMcCloud]

Part of me hopes Dorsey has something up his sleeve to let one walk or get some kind of killer bargain deal on Poe because $12-14m per year for Berry and an assumed $8-14m per year for Poe would wreck our cap.

Even with Peters on a rookie deal and DJ and Hali coming off the books, that could hamper us in what basically amounts to a war of attrition over a 16 game season.

We'll also need to make a determination on Ford here soon.
If some team wants to pay Poe $12 million, he's gone.

That's waaaaaaaay too much for him.

[Mr. Laz]

Bet in himself and it's paid off.

Dude is on another level and impertinent to the defense

impertinent little bastard, should learn to show some respect

[Chief Roundup]

What? You serious? With his productivity and his capacity to get in the backfield is going to make him a rich man. What he does has value. That's why Sutton plays him 45 trillion snaps a game.

He's going to get his, it just needs to be from someone else.

If he comes cheap, I'll shit a brick.
He won't be "cheap" but he is a NT not a 4-3 DT. There is no w ay he will get $19M a year avg or even $15M a year avg that Dareus got. He will be somewhere around $10M avg.

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[DaneMcCloud]

He's the new Ed Reed. Maybe better.

Holy shit!

LMAO

Eric Berry has 14 INT's.

Ed Reed had 64 INT's.

[DaneMcCloud]

He won't be "cheap" but he is a NT not a 4-3 DT. There is no w ay he will get $19M a year avg or even $15M a year avg that Dareus got. He will be somewhere around $10M avg.

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I wouldn't pay him a penny over $8 million.

The Chiefs paid Bailey $6 million per. He's on IR.

The Chiefs paid Howard $6 million per. He's on IR.

Neither had back surgery or back spasms.

[Demonpenz]

I would still take Poe. There is only one guy on this earth with poe's skill set. Lots of guys can do what Berry does. Berry is good tho

[-King-]

He's the new Ed Reed. Maybe better.

Reed is the greatest safety to ever play the game. Berry while he's great isn't that. He's closer to Polamalu than he is to Reed anyway.
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[Demonpenz]

Holy shit!

LMAO

Eric Berry has 14 INT's.

Ed Reed had 64 INT's.

Thanks for doing the legwork.

[Buehler445]

Reed was pure ballhawk. He was best in the open field. Berry isn't near the ballhawk, but will absolutely operate and excel in traffic.

Reed is all time, Berry probably isn't there yet. But the comparison is kind of garbage.

[Prison Bitch]

Y'all said "Pay Houston his money" too. How's that working out?

[Buehler445]

Y'all said "Pay Houston his money" too. How's that working out?

Ummmm....He earned quite a bit of it last week.

Yeah, he got hurt. Nobody plays every game. If it becomes a pattern, your point is valid. It's too early to tell yet. He's obviously not done forever.

[Prison Bitch]

Everyone we pay big $ to suddenly gets hurt. Remarkable how that happens. Except Alex, he still plays.

[Chief Roundup]

Y'all said "Pay Houston his money" too. How's that working out?

Stupid STFU and go stick your nose back in the DC corner.

[philfree]

Holy shit!

LMAO

Eric Berry has 14 INT's.

Ed Reed had 64 INT's.

If he can stay healthy and play as long as Reed then maybe his numbers could be close. But his impact is every bit as huge. He's the league MVP for me at the moment. His play is incredible. He's a game changing S. LMAO Burp and stupid shit....

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I would still take Poe. There is only one guy on this earth with poe's skill set. Lots of guys can do what Berry does. Berry is good tho

Are you serious?

There are very few guys who have the awareness or prepare well enough to make those plays Berry did today. Very few guys can shut tight ends down regularly like Berry.

And NO ONE can be a leader like him given everything he's been through.

[Rain Man]

Berry is a strong safety. Ed Reed was a free safety. There's a huge difference in interception opportunities.

[beach tribe]

Oh, NOW ya'll wanna pay my boy his money.

If 90% of ya's weren't typical highlight groupies who can't see shit, but the ball you'dve known this guy is next level shit. They don't grow dudes like him every day.

That said, he was askin for crazy fn money. The tag actually was the right call.

[beach tribe]

Are you serious?

There are very few guys who have the awareness or prepare well enough to make those plays Berry did today. Very few guys can shut tight ends down regularly like Berry.

And NO ONE can be a leader like him given everything he's been through.

Dude does it ALL:

Take on T, to seal the edge? Sure.

Shut down a TE? With ease.

Put a RB in concussion protocol?........With pleasure.

His skill set is as rare as they come....

[Kiimo]

Oh, NOW ya'll wanna pay my boy his money.

If 90% of ya's weren't typical highlight groupies who can't see shit, but the ball you'dve known this guy is next level shit. They don't grow dudes like him every day.

That said, he was askin for crazy fn money. The tag actually was the right call.

10%er checking in.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Dude does it ALL:

Take on T, to seal the edge? Sure.

Shut down a TE? With ease.

Put a RB in concussion protocol?........With pleasure.

His skill set is as rare as they come....

Been on the Berry > Poe side of the argument for awhile now. No slight to Poe, but that back is scary, and the DL depth is there.

Contrary to what some on here would say, there are less Berry-type players in the league than you can count on one hand right now. He's playing at an All-Pro level yet again.

[BossChief]

Before this year, I said Berry wasn't worth being the highest paid safety in football.

He just wasn't.

This year, though...Berry is on another level.

Is he worth paying 13+m per year, though?

[Simply Red]

$1 billion per year

I agree and offer Powe incentive chitlins on a string.

[RunKC]

Chiefs cap in 2017 with rollover doesn't look good. Some changes need to be made

[BigRedChief]

Pay bothThats not possible in the NFL. We are already paying Houston top 3 money. You cant pay 3 of your defensive players top 5 money and not hurt you in other places. No team has unlimited money, this isn't baseball.:)

[O.city]

Poe isn't getting top 5 $.

With the back issues, I'd tag poe and look to sign Berry

[RunKC]

Thats not possible in the NFL. We are already paying Houston top 3 money. You cant pay 3 of your defensive players top 5 money and not hurt you in other places. No team has unlimited money, this isn't baseball.:)

Kendall Reyes is the only player we should keep this offseason outside of Poe/Berry and he'll be cheap.

We have $31 million in the bank in 2018. Dorsey can do what he does with every player he signs: low cap # year 1 with big guaranteed $$.

Here's our 2018 FA list:

Ford (5th year option)
Acker-replaceable
Sherman-maybe a small deal
LDT-replaceable
Fulton-replaceable
JC-can't justify paying him. He looks done
Mauga-replaceable and long gone
Howard-maybe but it's either him or Poe
Gaines-replaceable
Foles-not worth more than a team friendly low cost deal
Colquitt-replaceable but would like to keep on a friendly deal

It's basically just Poe, Berry and Ford the next 2 years.

Foles-$10 million
Colquitt-$4 million
Charles-$7 million
Mauga-$750k
Bray-$1.22 million

About $23 million tied up in these players alone. We have $$.

[ModSocks]

Before this year, I said Berry wasn't worth being the highest paid safety in football.

He just wasn't.

This year, though...Berry is on another level.

Is he worth paying 13+m per year, though?

Oh bullshit.

The dude has always been ballin'. He hasn't always been in a position to intercept passes, but the ability was always there. He is a machine in run support and can blow up a play from the other end of the field.

[BigRedChief]

Kendall Reyes is the only player we should keep this offseason outside of Poe/Berry and he'll be cheap.

We have $31 million in the bank in 2018. Dorsey can do what he does with every player he signs: low cap # year 1 with big guaranteed $$.

Here's our 2018 FA list:

Ford (5th year option)
Acker-replaceable
Sherman-maybe a small deal
LDT-replaceable
Fulton-replaceable
JC-can't justify paying him. He looks done
Mauga-replaceable and long gone
Howard-maybe but it's either him or Poe
Gaines-replaceable
Foles-not worth more than a team friendly low cost deal
Colquitt-replaceable but would like to keep on a friendly deal

It's basically just Poe, Berry and Ford the next 2 years.

Foles-$10 million
Colquitt-$4 million
Charles-$7 million
Mauga-$750k
Bray-$1.22 million

About $23 million tied up in these players alone. We have $$.I agree we have $ but where you spend them is the make or break cap/money for this team.

I talked with Chris Jones's Mom and Dad and agent before the game. They gave us the impression that Poe being gone was a done deal and they were talking long term deal.

[SAUTO]

I agree we have $ but where you spend them is the make or break cap/money for this team.

I talked with Chris Jones's Mom and Dad and agent before the game. They gave us the impression that Poe being gone was a done deal and they were talking long term deal.
They can't talk long term deal for at least two years after this one

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Go watch who has been leading the teams post game huddles these past few weeks. Ask any of the players who they've been rallying behind lately. See who they look up to on a weekly basis.

Berry has become the sole leader of this team, and has been this teams best player this year. Say what you want about positional values, but Berry is one of the most valuable defenders in the league this year with all elements being considered.

Pay the man elite money because he deserves it. Andy has gone out of his way to drop Eric's name in multiple interviews unprompted as well, he knows who runs the locker room and I highly doubt he'll let him go.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

**** Berry
**** Poe

Pay Me goddamit !

Without me you have no bacon.

[beach tribe]

Definitely too early to compare to Reed

Why do morons keep doing this.....

They are NOTHING alike.

[beach tribe]

Been on the Berry > Poe side of the argument for awhile now. No slight to Poe, but that back is scary, and the DL depth is there.

Contrary to what some on here would say, there are less Berry-type players in the league than you can count on one hand right now. He's playing at an All-Pro level yet again.

I don't want to lose Poe. I love the dude, but there's a rookie on the team that seems to be bigger physical freak than he his, and doesn't have a fucked that won't have to be paid jack shit for a cpl seasons.

I still think we can keep them both, but we will see.

The way Dorsey drafts it is entirely possible.

[ChiTown]

**** Berry
**** Poe

Pay Me goddamit !

Without me you have no bacon.

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[RealSNR]

Everyone we pay big $ to suddenly gets hurt. Remarkable how that happens. Except Alex, he still plays.

What the fuck are you saying?

[BossChief]

I agree we have $ but where you spend them is the make or break cap/money for this team.

I talked with Chris Jones's Mom and Dad and agent before the game. They gave us the impression that Poe being gone was a done deal and they were talking long term deal.

Clarify, please.

Who are they talking long term deal with?

[BoneKrusher]

Pay Him, he's Berry Good.

[SAUTO]

Clarify, please.

Who are they talking long term deal with?

pretty obvious he's talking jones... which can not be true per the cba

[The Franchise]

I agree we have $ but where you spend them is the make or break cap/money for this team.

I talked with Chris Jones's Mom and Dad and agent before the game. They gave us the impression that Poe being gone was a done deal and they were talking long term deal.

ROFL

No you didn't.

[scho63]

Pay Berry. Franchise Poe.

But yeah, Berry should be the priority. I don't have any voice left after yelling during that 2 point return.

Good answer. :clap:

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Duh

[The Poz]

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[Meatloaf]

Ok, I'm slowly changing my mind as to whether to offer Mr Berry a sizeable contract next year. Initially, my thought was that, although he was a very good safety, he wasn't a "playmaker" in the same regard as say an Ed Reed. However, this year, his coverage and playmaking skills have obviously taken a huge turn towards the better. And, I'm talking HUGE!

Secondly, I just don't think that the safety position warrants spending big bucks. It's simply not a "key" position on an NFL footbsll team. And that assessment has not changed.

Lastly though is the Eric Berry leadership thing. Wow, it's pretty apparent that EVERYONE on this team understands and defers to Berry's view of things. Clearly, he is the leader of the defense, if not the whole team. It's really hard to ignore this last point, especially when combined with his much improved playmaking skills.

Subsequently, I think I'd lock this guy up for a while and get him signed to be a Chief for a good long time. Yeah, it's a little iffy what with the cancer thing in the background, but what is life if not a whole bunch of chances? I say, after the season, reach an agreement and make Eric Berry a Chief for life! We need this guy.

[DaFace]

Ok, I'm slowly changing my mind as to whether to offer Mr Berry a sizeable contract next year. Initially, my thought was that, although he was a very good safety, he wasn't a "playmaker" in the same regard as say an Ed Reed. However, this year, his coverage and playmaking skills have obviously taken a huge turn towards the better. And, I'm talking HUGE!

Secondly, I just don't think that the safety position warrants spending big bucks. It's simply not a "key" position on an NFL footbsll team. And that assessment has not changed.

Lastly though is the Eric Berry leadership thing. Wow, it's pretty apparent that EVERYONE on this team understands and defers to Berry's view of things. Clearly, he is the leader of the defense, if not the whole team. It's really hard to ignore this last point, especially when combined with his much improved playmaking skills.

Subsequently, I think I'd lock this guy up for a while and get him signed to be a Chief for a good long time. Yeah, it's a little iffy what with the cancer thing in the background, but what is life if not a whole bunch of chances? I say, after the season, reach an agreement and make Eric Berry a Chief for life! We need this guy.

In the postgame discussion the Star posted (see 65TPT's thread), they mentioned that the locker room almost has a "reverence" for Berry. Alex described him as the "heart and soul" of the team. And if you watch any of Berry's interviews, it's clear that he is completely unimpressed with his performance and is only interested in winning the Super Bowl.

I'm beginning to seriously wonder if a lot of the reason we're winning this year is that the team just plain isn't willing to quit, and that all stems from Berry.

[Easy 6]

Its still a tougher call for me than it seems to be for most these days, accepted wisdom says its always harder to find a difference making D lineman than it is to find a good safety

If Poe gets a clean bill of health in the offseason, I'd lean toward keeping him over EB... everyone was looking at Howard as the guy to replace Poe, but his play dropped off this year so who knows what we really have in him

[Kiimo]

Poe has never single-handedly won a game for us and Berry has done it twice this season at his "unimportant" position.




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[Easy 6]

I've yet to see anyone claim Berrys position is "unimportant"

[raybec 4]

If Poe is healthy, and you have to choose between them, you still have to pay Poe. No disrespect for Berry, he's playing well right now, but a dominant DT is harder to find and is more of a difference making position. And I think Poe is a more dominating DT than Berry is a Safety. But certainly keeping either one long-term would be nice for our franchise.

Totally disagree, it's not really an apples to apples type comparison, but I believe EB is much more valuable to the team overall.

[raybec 4]

Reed is the greatest safety to ever play the game. Berry while he's great isn't that. He's closer to Polamalu than he is to Reed anyway.
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Reed is not the best ever. He was an interception machine but the GOAT title is pure opinion. Tatum, Lott, Reed, Polamalu etc. there's a bunch to choose from.

[jjchieffan]

I don't know about Berry. He still isn't tweeting about how he wants to be a part of this team. F that guy/Staylor

[Kiimo]

I've yet to see anyone claim Berrys position is "unimportant"

"not key" then.

[raybec 4]

I don't know about Berry. He still isn't tweeting about how he wants to be a part of this team. F that guy/Staylor

ROFL

[Easy 6]

"not key" then.

There sense in being an ass about this, no one said "not key" either... fact is Dorsey cant really go wrong no matter which one he hangs onto

My point is only that history says it would be easier to find a suitable replacement for Berry

[jspchief]

If our run defense didn't suck, I might feel like Poe deserved consideration in spite of his back issues. As it stands, he's an injury risk and not particularly good vs the run.

[ThaVirus]

If our run defense didn't suck, I might feel like Poe deserved consideration in spite of his back issues. As it stands, he's an injury risk and not particularly good vs the run.

To be fair, our pass defense sucks too.

One man can only do so much..

[RunKC]

Poe has been a top 5 interior DL this year, but particularly he's the best NT in the game right now.

Run defense problems have been an issue bc Ramik Wilson and DJ (yes he's had trouble this year) are missing tackles they should make

[Kiimo]

There sense in being an ass about this, no one said "not key" either.

It's simply not a "key" position on an NFL footbsll team.

How hard was that to look up?

[Iconic]

At this point- you have to.

This team will not be the same without him. It's not just a safety you're paying for, but an entire locker room filled with unified and motivated troops.

[BigRedChief]

Clarify, please.

Who are they talking long term deal with?
Mom Jones says we are happy with the Chiefs. Dad says we are already talking a long term deal. We want to stay here.

[SAUTO]

Mom Jones says we are happy with the Chiefs. Dad says we are already talking a long term deal. We want to stay here.

that just cant be true.

we CANT extend him for 2 years after this one, per the cba.


they may be talking about it amongst themselves but i guarantee the team isnt talking with them about it.

[KChiefs1]

I wouldn't pay Berry because it would be too much & we all know he will either get hurt next year or his cancer will come back.

I'm not for overpaying players for one year ala Justin Houston.


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[jjchieffan]

that just cant be true.

we CANT extend him for 2 years after this one, per the cba.


they may be talking about it amongst themselves but i guarantee the team isnt talking with them about it.

I think what you said at the end is what he meant. He is trying to say is that Chris Jones and his parents are talking about wanting a long term deal from the Chiefs. Not that they are in discussions with the Chiefs on a long term deal. I could be wrong, but that's how I interpret what he said.

[Tribal Warfare]

I agree we have $ but where you spend them is the make or break cap/money for this team.

I talked with Chris Jones's Mom and Dad and agent before the game. They gave us the impression that Poe being gone was a done deal and they were talking long term deal.

Dude, I'd love to believe this but after the DJ ordeal I'm very skeptical

[BossChief]

In the postgame discussion the Star posted (see 65TPT's thread), they mentioned that the locker room almost has a "reverence" for Berry. Alex described him as the "heart and soul" of the team. And if you watch any of Berry's interviews, it's clear that he is completely unimpressed with his performance and is only interested in winning the Super Bowl.

I'm beginning to seriously wonder if a lot of the reason we're winning this year is that the team just plain isn't willing to quit, and that all stems from Berry.

Absolutely spot on.

[BossChief]

Mom Jones says we are happy with the Chiefs. Dad says we are already talking a long term deal. We want to stay here.

I'm not sure I understand.

Chris Jones is in the first year of a 4 year rookie deal that, by rule, cannot be extended till after his third year.

What are they talking about? Getting a deal set up for after 2018?

Your comment simply doesn't make any sense.

Maybe you simply overheard his parents talking about a contract for their lawn care, security or something...

[The Franchise]

Maybe they mention that they WANT to do a long term deal with the Chiefs when it's possible. Talking one already is bullshit though.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

When he re signs, BR will bump this humble bragging about the scoop.

[ThaVirus]

I wouldn't pay Berry because it would be too much & we all know he will either get hurt next year or his cancer will come back.

I'm not for overpaying players for one year ala Justin Houston.


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Houston and Berry are not one-year wonders. Think, man!

[SAUTO]

I think what you said at the end is what he meant. He is trying to say is that Chris Jones and his parents are talking about wanting a long term deal from the Chiefs. Not that they are in discussions with the Chiefs on a long term deal. I could be wrong, but that's how I interpret what he said.

Well his first post on it said poe being gone was a foregone conclusion and they were already talking long term deal.

That makes it sound like they have some info from the front office...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Houston and Berry are not one-year wonders. Think, man!

Yeah that was one of the dumber posts I have read all day and i read a couple Cl..errr smasher posts

[TimeForWasp]

I want Poe back too.

[planetdoc]

Eric Berry is already making $10.8 million this yr. I dont think it is a good idea to give a longterm, high salary contract to a turning 28 yr old safety.

The 2017 draft is supposed to be deep at db, and the chiefs have a converted cb Eric Murray waiting in the wings. I also think the reason the chiefs have been so successful with safeties over the years (Parker, Abdullah, Sorenson, Branch, Coleman, Demps) has more to do with the chiefs strong pass rush than an eye for acquiring talent.

If Dorsey decides to let Berry test free agency, than i trust him with that decision.

[DaneMcCloud]

**** Berry
**** Poe

Pay Me goddamit !

Without me you have no bacon.

Turkey bacon?

:D

[ThaVirus]

Chris Jones on EB.

[jspchief]

I'm not sure I understand.

Chris Jones is in the first year of a 4 year rookie deal that, by rule, cannot be extended till after his third year.

What are they talking about? Getting a deal set up for after 2018?

Your comment simply doesn't make any sense.

Maybe you simply overheard his parents talking about a contract for their lawn care, security or something...
They're probably just day dreaming about their gravy train.

[ModSocks]

Eric Berry is already making $10.8 million this yr. I dont think it is a good idea to give a longterm, high salary contract to a turning 28 yr old safety.

The 2017 draft is supposed to be deep at db, and the chiefs have a converted cb Eric Murray waiting in the wings. I also think the reason the chiefs have been so successful with safeties over the years (Parker, Abdullah, Sorenson, Branch, Coleman, Demps) has more to do with the chiefs strong pass rush than an eye for acquiring talent.

If Dorsey decides to let Berry test free agency, than i trust him with that decision.

We're winning games right now because star players are making big plays when it matters most. You start letting that talent erode and replacing them with serviceable guys and you'll become the Chargers.

I've been arguing this same logic for years now, and it's still true. The difference between Eric Berry and Eric Murray may only be a half second. But that half second can be the difference between a Pick 6 or a tackle in the end zone.

THAT is why you pay them.

You can find a ton of guy in the NFL that are a half second late. That's why they're average players.

You keep championship caliber players. It's what allows you to fill in the blanks with cheap, competent talent.

[ModSocks]

If you want to know what a team of good, but not great players looks like, then just look at the bottom of our division. That's EXACTLY what the Chargers are.

Good, but they lack play makers. They don't have guys that rise to the occasion.

You keep suggesting that we let guys like Berry walk and that's exactly what this roster will turn into.

[RunKC]

Watching the Raiders game again and the announcers had the Crabtree incompletion all wrong.

"It looked like Crabtree thought the pass was going to somebody else."

He stopped going for the ball bc he saw Eric Berry roaring at him full speed. That ****er knew Berry was going to blast him right in the ribs and he got scared.

[Chiefaholic]

We need both... Berry to manage the secondary and Poe to disrupt the pocket and allow Houston, Hali, and Ford to hit the opposing QB outside the pocket.

[ZootedGranny]

Watching the Raiders game again and the announcers had the Crabtree incompletion all wrong.

"It looked like Crabtree thought the pass was going to somebody else."

He stopped going for the ball bc he saw Eric Berry roaring at him full speed. That ****er knew Berry was going to blast him right in the ribs and he got scared.

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[Buehler445]

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ROFL

Outstanding GIF

[kcmaxwell]

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That's amazing! You can almost hear the whimper... "please don't kill me!"

[Saccopoo]

That's amazing! You can almost hear the whimper... "please don't kill me!"

OMFG!

Arms go T REX and he just pisses his pants thinking about Berry breaking about ten ribs.

Awesome.

[SAUTO]

Yea he wasn't looking for another wr.

He was definitely ducking berry

[BigRedChief]

I think what you said at the end is what he meant. He is trying to say is that Chris Jones and his parents are talking about wanting a long term deal from the Chiefs. Not that they are in discussions with the Chiefs on a long term deal. I could be wrong, but that's how I interpret what he said.Thats the way I took it in person. They were happy and already talking about wanting a long term deal in KC.

They are not going to talk about any "real" contract negotiations with random Chief fans they meet in an hotel lobby on game day.

[SAUTO]

Thats the way I took it in person. They were happy and already talking about wanting a long term deal in KC.

They are not going to talk about any "real" contract negotiations with random Chief fans they meet in an hotel lobby on game day.
That's not how you portrayed it, otherwise you wouldn't have said poes gone. There's no way they could know that.

Once again there CAN'T be any REAL contract negotiations at this point.