Game ball Berry, but....

[Hamwallet]

Alex Smith went vertical today and he was nails minus the overthrown pass. He looked damn good today.

[The Franchise]

Did he marry a pornstar though?

[DaFace]

That miss to Ware was horrific, but it's an improvement over what we've seen lately, that's for sure.

[Hamwallet]

Did he marry a pornstar though?

No he didn't. I let that thread die and it wasn't BS.

[Eleazar]

As stated in another thread... yes, Smith played better this week, but against a bottom third defense like Atlanta's, his offense should have produced more than 13 points.

[Chief Northman]

As stated in another thread... yes, Smith played better this week, but against a bottom third defense like Atlanta's, his offense should have produced more than 13 points.

B-B-B-But....

Fuck off.

[-King-]

As stated in another thread... yes, Smith played better this week, but against a bottom third defense like Atlanta's, his offense should have produced more than 13 points.

He had no help from the running game. Ware averaged 2.2 yards per carry. Looks like he's wearing down.

[BWillie]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

[Rasputin]

I think this was Alex Smith best game as a Chiefs and he did have a couple miss fires but he wasn't just a game manager today.


Andy Reid was aggressive today and I think it triculated into the players.

Outstanding game win

[jspchief]

I said this in the game thread but it bears repeating... Smith's passing early in the game kept things from getting out of hand fast like they did in Pittsburgh. Yes he missed two passes that could have sealed the game late, but his early play was monumental in keeping the team from going full tilt.

[Chief Northman]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

Your and idiot.

[TripleThreat]

As stated in another thread... yes, Smith played better this week, but against a bottom third defense like Atlanta's, his offense should have produced more than 13 points.

Your fucking retarded lol. Our offense punted once today did we not? You act like we were not moving the ball or punting on every down. There's context on why our o only put up 13 points

[Bwana]

He had no help from the running game. Ware averaged 2.2 yards per carry. Looks like he's wearing down.

Yeah I agree, he got up off the turf slowly after about every play. He's either dinged, or worn out.

[-King-]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

LOL so you're saying that he threw the ball accurately enough to give his WRs opportunities for YAC?

This is the most retarded thing ever. He threw for 270 yards. He had 4 total incompletions. He threw the ball down the field. It was a great game for him.

[Hamwallet]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

Can someone explain west coast offense to this dude...

[The Franchise]

Yeah I agree, he got up off the turf slowly after about every play. He's either dinged, or worn out.

West isn't helping him out.

[ThaVirus]

He had no help from the running game. Ware averaged 2.2 yards per carry. Looks like he's wearing down.

It'll be interesting to see how well he produces over the next several weeks. I haven't noticed any decline in his ability but perhaps you're right. His style of play doesn't lend itself to a lengthy career.

[NJChiefsFan]

He had no help from the running game. Ware averaged 2.2 yards per carry. Looks like he's wareing down.

FYP. The oline is not giving him much to work with and that's concerning.

Alex missing Ware made me have nightmares from the playoff game again. Those are clutch plays he needs to make or it will hurt us down the road. Overall though I will sign up for this Alex Smith. Watching the Maclin videos posted from last year made me realize how much better Alex was playing last year. Yes it was Atlanta, and man their defense was horrible against the pass, but it was a good sign today.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Smith was very good in this game. He had two bad missed throws but was otherwise putting our receivers in good position with his passing.

I don't think there's any doubt the offense as a whole misses Maclin and Charles, though.

[EPodolak]

He used Kelce like he should have. Calling Hill's number some more would have been smart. Maybe he's figuring out big wins is going to require risking balls downfield.

[notorious]

I was hard on Alex because of that 1 throw, but he played very well.


The completion to Wilson to end the game was nails.

[jspchief]

He had no help from the running game. Ware averaged 2.2 yards per carry. Looks like he's wearing down.
Our run blocking is fucking terrible. We may as well come to terms that the short passing game is KC's running game. I hate it, but Reid is gonna Reid.

[-King-]

Can someone explain west coast offense to this dude...

I don't think Drew Brees, Matt Ryan and Tom Brady's stats should count. The Saints are #1 and #2 and 3 in YAC and those aren't real yards or something!

[ThaVirus]

12 years in the league and dude still can't throw a consistent touch pass.

So fucking frustrating.

[Lzen]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

This is one of the dumbest posts ever. Look, I'm not an Alex apologist. The way he had been playing I was ready to move on. But he had a very good game today. For you to suggest that his play, his adjustments at the LOS, early long completion to Kelce, etc. in no way won this game is just absolutely ignorant.

I just don't understand why people can't look past their Alex Smith hatred or look past their Alex Smith fanhood to have a realistic and honest view of his play. Both sides of the Alex debate are idiots.

[-King-]

12 years in the league and dude still can't throw a consistent touch pass.

So fucking frustrating.

I want to get a gif of that play. It really looked to me like Ware ran...slowed down and then tried to run again during that play. Threw the timing of the pass off. Could be wrong though.

[DaneMcCloud]

That miss to Ware was horrific, but it's an improvement over what we've seen lately, that's for sure.

Total broken play and miscommunication.

I blame no one for that mss.

[Chiefshrink]

I think this was Alex Smith best game as a Chiefs and he did have a couple miss fires but he wasn't just a game manager today.


Andy Reid was aggressive today and I think it triculated into the players.

Outstanding game win

Yeah I agree, he got up off the turf slowly after about every play. He's either dinged, or worn out.

West isn't helping him out.

It'll be interesting to see how well he produces over the next several weeks. I haven't noticed any decline in his ability but perhaps you're right. His style of play doesn't lend itself to a lengthy career.

FYP. The oline is not giving him much to work with and that's concerning.

Alex missing Ware made me have nightmares from the playoff game again. Those are clutch plays he needs to make or it will hurt us down the road. Overall though I will sign up for this Alex Smith. Watching the Maclin videos posted from last year made me realize how much better Alex was playing last year. Yes it was Atlanta, and man their defense was horrible against the pass, but it was a good sign today.

Fellas, D's are stacking the box because they don't respect our passing game, hence why Kelce and Hill have had significant games lately. Look for D's to soften up somewhat on the run to account for Kelce and Hill and then watch Ware return to form.:thumb:

Raiders D in Arrowhead this Thursday night(although I hate Thurs games) will be experience a Chiefs offense they have never experienced before IMHO.:D

[ThaVirus]

I want to get a gif of that play. It really looked to me like Ware ran...slowed down and then tried to run again during that play. Threw the timing of the pass off. Could be wrong though.


Maybe so. I wouldn't doubt it because it'd be incredibly hard to run full-speed down the sideline with your QB drifting so far toward said sideline himself.

Either way it really shouldn't matter. Ware had his man beat by several steps and there was hardly another defender even within the screenshot. On 3rd down in such a high pressure situation, just lob that fucker up. The completion and 1st down are FAR more important than a long TD play at that point. Just get the sure thing if need be.

It looked almost exactly like the Indy playoff miss to Gray. People blamed Gray for slowing down then too.

[Fairplay]

Did he marry a pornstar though?

Can someone clue me in on the pornstar jokes I don't get on here much. Thanks in advance I think.

[Fairplay]

Fellas, D's are stacking the box because they don't respect our passing game, hence why Kelce and Hill have had significant games lately. Look for D's to soften up somewhat on the run to account for Kelce and Hill and then watch Ware return to form.:thumb:

Raiders D in Arrowhead this Thursday night(although I hate Thurs games) will be experience a Chiefs offense they have never experienced before IMHO.:D


Short week, ugh. The players don't care for the them either the only thing in our favor is it's at home.

[Chiefshrink]

I have never cared what Smith's stats accumulate to however, he cannot miss easy wide open WRs in clutch time EVER anymore going forward. It is totally UNACCEPTABLE at this point in the season. He has to be razor sharp in order to put the game away PERIOD !! You rarely get 2nd chances come playoff time. Just saying.:shrug:

[Chiefshrink]

Can someone clue me in on the pornstar jokes I don't get on here much. Thanks in advance I think.

They have ruined many men taking their $$(gold diggers)

[tk13]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

To be fair, the whole point of Andy Reid's offense is to have high YAC numbers. It's like knocking the Royals for bleeding a team to death with 5 consecutive singles. That's what they are usually trying to do.

[Fairplay]

I have never cared what Smith's stats accumulate to however, he cannot miss easy wide open WRs in clutch time EVER anymore going forward. It is totally UNACCEPTABLE at this point in the season. He has to be razor sharp in order to put the game away PERIOD !! You rarely get 2nd chances come playoff time. Just saying.:shrug:

I agree, our offense is extremely conservative particularly in the passing game.
My confidence in Alex Smiths arm if he has to come back from say 10 points with 3-4 minutes to go are slim to none.

[Discuss Thrower]

The pass Kelce needed a jetpack to haul in was much worse than the miss to Ware.

[Eleazar]

It's not Smith being "conservative" in the passing game. He's executing Reid's offense.

A lot of time I think he gets maligned for "missing" someone who was open when he was probably just working through the progression the way it was designed.

Reid's offense is a YAC offense.

[Red Dawg]

I don't have much faith in Smith any more nor do I in our OL run blocking. How we have such a hard time running the ball is mid boggling. I realize team want us to throw but last season we ran well and this season we can't

[Mr. Laz]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl
every fucking QB in the league is the beneficiary of YAC

Ryan is the king of YAC and people love him


https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/player-quarterback-passing-yards-after-catch-statistics/2016/

[Beef Supreme]

I've been on Alex Smith's ass all year, but he played pretty good today. Would have liked more points out of the offense, and the running game was ass today. And Alex missed a couple late in the game that we really could have used. But if Alex played like this more consistently, I wouldn't bitch about him.

[Easy 6]

He had no help from the running game. Ware averaged 2.2 yards per carry. Looks like he's wearing down.

Thats probably part of it, but the line isnt providing much room to roam either... they've been quite disappointing in that facet IMO

[Pitt Gorilla]

I have never cared what Smith's stats accumulate to however, he cannot miss easy wide open WRs in clutch time EVER anymore going forward. It is totally UNACCEPTABLE at this point in the season. He has to be razor sharp in order to put the game away PERIOD !! You rarely get 2nd chances come playoff time. Just saying.:shrug:
Every QB in the league misses passes. It happens and will continue to do so.

[Kman34]

Your and idiot.

ROFL

[RunKC]

I don't have much faith in Smith any more nor do I in our OL run blocking. How we have such a hard time running the ball is mid boggling. I realize team want us to throw but last season we ran well and this season we can't

Jeff Allen was a beast last year and opened up holes. Ehinger was doing a decent job of that too.

Fulton is a big downgrade from both

[Sandy Vagina]

Jeff Allen was a beast last year and opened up holes. Ehinger was doing a decent job of that too.

Fulton is a big downgrade from both

must be. something's clearly not working up front.

[Kman34]

Thats probably part of it, but the line isnt providing much room to roam either... they've been quite disappointing in that facet IMO

I like bringing in the extra tackle and the TEs... when we pass in that formation it is usually a success...

[suzzer99]

Anyone know the Win % change on that Berry pick-2? Had to be like +50%.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

Holy shit you are dumb

[CoMoChief]

That Ware miss-fire was one of the worst passes I've ever seen thrown by a NFL QB.

It was Cassel-esque level of bad.

I'll never forget the gif posted by Clay in that Cassel Declaration of War thread, of when Cassel overthrows a checkdown to Charles by about 15yrds.

This pass was right up there.

Glad we won though. EB saved the fucking day....(again)

[threebag]

Alex Smith did not, in any way win this game. He was beneficiary of lots of YAC, special team TD and 9 pts from Eric Berry. This was one of the worst defenses in the nfl

Holy shit you are dumb

Fact

[Hamwallet]

Can someone clue me in on the pornstar jokes I don't get on here much. Thanks in advance I think.

I posted a thread about my buddy getting divorced from a well known porn star saying don't marry one. It was a mistake. Then when I didn't reveal her everyone said I was full of shit. It got 10,000 views in 48 hours and I still won't say who it was because it's my buddy. That's the story. LoL

[Easy 6]

I like bringing in the extra tackle and the TEs... when we pass in that formation it is usually a success...

Agreed, Andys trickeration was on point today... theres a definite difference between sly trickery, and dumbass trickery

Andy dipped into his good stash today, no doubt

[Easy 6]

I posted a thread about my buddy getting divorced from a well known porn star saying don't marry one. It was a mistake. Then when I didn't reveal her everyone said I was full of shit. It got 10,000 views in 48 hours and I still won't say who it was because it's my buddy. That's the story. LoL

We had her pegged, dont lie... you tried changing details around after the fact, lol

No one here is out to get your buddy anyway, hell... we feel sorry for him :D

[Hamwallet]

You didn't peg my buddy. You guys posted a picture of a flat bill hat Dbag with a porn star that you thought was him.

[RealSNR]

Jeff Allen was a beast last year and opened up holes. Ehinger was doing a decent job of that too.



Fulton is a big downgrade from both



Was just going to bring this up. Our tackles aren't helping matters in the run game either.

I wonder if Reid has thought about Jay Reid at LG. He's played on the left side before.

[BWillie]

Not saying he didnt play better but I dont know how you can watch that game and be like, yeah Alex Smith is the guy this team needs going forward.

[O.city]

He missed 1 pass.

If you watched that game and came away thinking negatively about smith, well, you're probably too dug in on an opinion going in

[BWillie]

He missed 1 pass.

If you watched that game and came away thinking negatively about smith, well, you're probably too dug in on an opinion going in

I want top 10 QB. That's it.

Its possible we could win a SB if we get home field adv and our D keeps forcing TOs but its gonna be tough with this offense. AT least Broncos proved you can win SB w worst qb in league last yr

[O.city]

I want top 10 QB. That's it.

Its possible we could win a SB if we get home field adv and our D keeps forcing TOs but its gonna be tough with this offense. AT least Broncos proved you can win SB w worst an in league last yr

Well, he just put a top 10 performance out there on the road.

21 - 25 for 270 and a td is pretty good.

[-King-]

I want top 10 QB. That's it.

Its possible we could win a SB if we get home field adv and our D keeps forcing TOs but its gonna be tough with this offense. AT least Broncos proved you can win SB w worst qb in league last yr

Is there anyone who doesn't want a top 10 QB? You're making stupid points. Everyone wants a better QB. But this game was a game that you'd be happy of any QB for playing.
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[chiefzilla1501]

Not saying he didnt play better but I dont know how you can watch that game and be like, yeah Alex Smith is the guy this team needs going forward.

If he plays like today, he's a guy that could easily lead this team going forward.

I'm as critical as anybody when Alex doesn't play well. But today is the type of play his critics want to see on a regular basis. He wasn't just a game manager today. And while he missed two key throws on one drive, he also put the nail in the coffin with an excellent slant throw to ice the game which was one of the biggest plays in the game.

[Aspengc8]

To be fair, the whole point of Andy Reid's offense is to have high YAC numbers. It's like knocking the Royals for bleeding a team to death with 5 consecutive singles. That's what they are usually trying to do.

That's what the spread does. You go vertical when they have 8 in the box (including alley)

[Easy 6]

If he plays like today, he's a guy that could easily lead this team going forward.

I'm as critical as anybody when Alex doesn't play well. But today is the type of play his critics want to see on a regular basis. He wasn't just a game manager today. And while he missed two key throws on one drive, he also put the nail in the coffin with an excellent slant throw to ice the game which was one of the biggest plays in the game.

Agree 100%, and while I certainly wont cry when he is replaced... its dumb to bag on him too much for this game, he was efficient in the extreme

It was an A game for Alex Smith, you can definitely win with a performance like that

[NJChiefsFan]

Is there anyone who doesn't want a top 10 QB? You're making stupid points. Everyone wants a better QB. But this game was a game that you'd be happy of any QB for playing.
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The reality is he is the QB for this year and nearly certainly next minimum. With that being the case, I will sign up for these types of games from him.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

The entire Falcons board is talking about trying to get Berry in the offseason but the idiots fail to realize they used a first round pick to get Neal since they couldn't get Berry. They may quite possibly be the dumbest fan base after Oakland

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

For all the contracts we have out there...there's no way you can dish out more than 7.5 a year for a safety unless we're willing to say goodbye to Poe and build depth with our draft picks, which may be fine with the comp picks we should be receiving.

The biggest need right now is at ILB and unless we got Jamie Collins, then Dorsey is going to use the 1st or 2nd rd pick to get one. Corner is the likely other pick based on how things are going...

[Hamwallet]

For all the contracts we have out there...there's no way you can dish out more than 7.5 a year for a safety unless we're willing to say goodbye to Poe and build depth with our draft picks, which may be fine with the comp picks we should be receiving.

The biggest need right now is at ILB and unless we got Jamie Collins, then Dorsey is going to use the 1st or 2nd rd pick to get one. Corner is the likely other pick based on how things are going...

What did our Dline do today? I am a Poe fan but keeping him over Berry is dumb.

[Fairplay]

I posted a thread about my buddy getting divorced from a well known porn star saying don't marry one. It was a mistake. Then when I didn't reveal her everyone said I was full of shit. It got 10,000 views in 48 hours and I still won't say who it was because it's my buddy. That's the story. LoL

It wasn't true love then, buy your buddy a beer and tell him m to move on to the next porn star.

[DaneMcCloud]

I posted a thread about my buddy getting divorced from a well known porn star saying don't marry one. It was a mistake. Then when I didn't reveal her everyone said I was full of shit. It got 10,000 views in 48 hours and I still won't say who it was because it's my buddy. That's the story. LoL

You're a buttfucking moron.

[Hamwallet]

You're a butt****ing moron.

So do you want to post nude photos of your friends ex wife in here?

[-King-]

I want to get a gif of that play. It really looked to me like Ware ran...slowed down and then tried to run again during that play. Threw the timing of the pass off. Could be wrong though.

I was wrong. Ware didn't slow down. It was just a flat out miss.

[threebag]

Hamwallet, folks here couldn't care less about the dude(less a couple posters). Most probably just want to check out her sausagewallet

[Gravedigger]

Even with Alex being great today, we wouldn't have won without the 9 points Berry gifted us. They played better than we did, as is to be expected as the away team with crowd noise. Berry earned his paycheck today, and if he keeps it up, I say pay the man to be your leader after DJ and Tamba hang it up, regardless if you don't "Pay a safety that much". You also should never draft a Safety in the top picks of the draft and that worked out pretty well for us.

[Simply Red]

every ****ing QB in the league is the beneficiary of YAC

Ryan is the king of YAC and people love him


https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/player-quarterback-passing-yards-after-catch-statistics/2016/

You show these cunts a rose bush, they'll see the weeds.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Alex Smith was great today. The nitpicking is ridiculous. Look at the horrendous mistakes Matt Ryan, an MVP canidate, made today.

Sure he didn't have a perfect game and the pass to Ware was horrible. But hey it happens... He was very accurate today and most importantly, no INTS. No QB is going to have a perfect game. Every QB has throws he wishes he could have back every game.

But if Alex Smith keeps playing like that and Maclin gets healthy and starts playing like he did last year will our offense is going to be good.

I've always said he's a good game manager and not a bad QB. He plays smart and wins games. He's one of the most underappreciated QBs because of his playing style IMO.

[DJ's left nut]

I agree, our offense is extremely conservative particularly in the passing game.
My confidence in Alex Smiths arm if he has to come back from say 10 points with 3-4 minutes to go are slim to none

THAT'S your fucking metric?!?!

"Yeah, in that situation where hall of fame QBs come through maybe 1 time out of 5, I'm pretty down on Smiths ability to pull it from the fire..."

Well no shit. Truly a fair bar.

I mean hell, the guy only did it once this year and it wasn't on the road so fuck him in the face.

Seriously, for all the shit that Bwillies undeniably stupid fucking post received, yours is somehow dumber still. People aren't giving you enough credit for this gorgeous bit of dipshittery.

[DaneMcCloud]

I agree, our offense is extremely conservative particularly in the passing game.
My confidence in Alex Smiths arm if he has to come back from say 10 points with 3-4 minutes to go are slim to none.

I'd like to see 3 or 4 quality football posts from you but odds are slim to none

[UK_Chief]

I agree but it was two overthrown passes. The Conley drop early on was on the money though so I'll give him one back

[kcchiefsus]

Yards and completions don't mean shit when you still don't score touchdowns. Alex Smith has proven over his career that he is rarely capable of more than 1 passing touchdown in a game.

[temper11]

Alex Smith was great today. The nitpicking is ridiculous. Look at the horrendous mistakes Matt Ryan, an MVP canidate, made today.

Sure he didn't have a perfect game and the pass to Ware was horrible. But hey it happens... He was very accurate today and most importantly, no INTS. No QB is going to have a perfect game. Every QB has throws he wishes he could have back every game.

But if Alex Smith keeps playing like that and Maclin gets healthy and starts playing like he did last year will our offense is going to be good.

I've always said he's a good game manager and not a bad QB. He plays smart and wins games. He's one of the most underappreciated QBs because of his playing style IMO.
This. Smith-haters are quick to point out that the defense scored 9 points and baled Smith out... without acknowledging that those 9 points were gift wrapped by the other QB that most gush over around here. Smith was good. If Kelce doesnt step out of bounds and Smith hits ware it would have been a steller day.

Congrats KC! Big game on Thursday. Raider fan out here are all up in themselves over todays win. I'm counting on the chiefs to shut them all up this week.

[Pushead2]

He had a good game and made some good throws. The O-Line gave him good protection too.

I'm okay with his stat-line if we get that game in, game out from Smith.

[Sandy Vagina]

Also pleased with his overall performance, when considering that our run game has been.. less than good. More games like this, and I'll not only be open to a fair SB shot, I'll expect it. :)

[tomahawk kid]

must be. something's clearly not working up front.

Its name is Andy Heck. Don't underestimate losing Chung to Philly either.

Heck is a horrible OL coach, and has struggled since he got here.

[chiefzilla1501]

Even with Alex being great today, we wouldn't have won without the 9 points Berry gifted us. They played better than we did, as is to be expected as the away team with crowd noise. Berry earned his paycheck today, and if he keeps it up, I say pay the man to be your leader after DJ and Tamba hang it up, regardless if you don't "Pay a safety that much". You also should never draft a Safety in the top picks of the draft and that worked out pretty well for us.

How do you know that? If we weren't gifted the game-winning 2-pointer, we could have marched down the field with plenty of time to set up a field goal. If Berry doesn't get an INT, we could have made a stop and used that possession to set up a score. If the Chiefs weren't up by 11 in the 3Q, maybe Andy Reid doesn't pump the brakes with the playcalling, which became significantly more conservative once we were preserving a lead.

I haven't had much confidence in Alex's ability to close games until this year. With his performance at San Diego and Denver, he certainly deserves a benefit of the doubt. Alex didn't have a perfect performance. It doesn't happen unless Alex played a much more aggressive version of himself... but he did.

[Sandy Vagina]

Its name is Andy Heck. Don't underestimate losing Chung to Philly either.

Heck is a horrible OL coach, and has struggled since he got here.

I can say as I am watchig more, I am unimpessed with some of Fulton's efforts.

[chiefzilla1501]

must be. something's clearly not working up front.

Usually it's Alex Smith. But that wasn't the case yesterday.

When he doesn't press, the defense loads the box and stuffs the run game.
When he goes into a conservative shell, he pump fakes to his first reads instead of getting rid of the ball, so he holds onto the ball longer than he needs to. It also helped that Reid was more creative with the playcalling, so he needs to be aggressive too. I don't know why we waited so long in the season to start showing jet sweeps and options, which keep the defense on their feet.

It's amazing how much better the OL looks when Alex plays aggressive football.

[Sandy Vagina]

Usually it's Alex Smith. But that wasn't the case yesterday.

When he doesn't press, the defense loads the box and stuffs the run game.
When he goes into a conservative shell, he pump fakes to his first reads instead of getting rid of the ball, so he holds onto the ball longer than he needs to. It also helped that Reid was more creative with the playcalling, so he needs to be aggressive too. I don't know why we waited so long in the season to start showing jet sweeps and options, which keep the defense on their feet.

It's amazing how much better the OL looks when Alex plays aggressive football.

Mostly disagree. Change the name to Andy, and I would. At the very least, the lack of aggression is more like a 70/30 ratio on HC and QB.

Most of what Smith does is by design.. from Reid. You can tell that Andy draws up lots of screens and designs to get the ball to just one target. You can tell that Andy doesn't want to risk Smith taking many hits.

First intended target is open at all, Smith will go to him... and he frequently does. Say that this first target is Hill on an 8 yard curl. Remotely open, and Smith hits him. He doesn't wait to see if Kelce.. the next option.. is getting open on a flag route. Why? because pass rush.. and he won't abandon the 8 yard gain just on the chance that maybe the next option might get open.. and maybe he'll have time to get it there. Smith is not a risk taker.. and only becomes one when it becomes more clearly necessary.

Yesterday was both HC and QB recognizing that the ATL offense might slaughter on the scoreboard.. and along with that, understanding that ATL was weaker in the secondary.

AMEN for that, because the ATL defense was shutting down the KC run game. What little Ware got was nearly all on his own toughness and ability.

Now, we see if Andy goes back to small ball... actually, maybe not this week.. as OAK has similar strengths and weaknesses as ATL. 70/30 ratio, imho.

[petegz28]

Hate to break it you you people but every QB, including Brady, Rodgers, Benny, all miss those kinds of passes like the ones to Ware. In fact, we have benefited over the years against those very QB's among others, by them doing just that. Shit happens.

[tomahawk kid]

I can say as I am watchig more, I am unimpessed with some of Fulton's efforts.

From what I've been told, Heck struggles to teach fundamentals (which was apparently Chung's strength).

Ehringer already has solid fundamentals (hence him starting as a rookie). I think his loss was a bigger blow than most people realize.

To the point of the previous poster's point, Fulton is a significant drop off.

[DJ's left nut]

Hate to break it you you people but every QB, including Brady, Rodgers, Benny, all miss those kinds of passes like the ones to Ware. In fact, we have benefited over the years against those very QB's among others, by them doing just that. Shit happens.

Especially on a scramble play.

That wasn't a designed route, IMO. Ware saw the open space and ran upfield. Meanwhile Smith is running around trying to keep the play alive and had to make a bang/bang play.

I agree with an earlier poster that he should've lofted it out there to give Ware a chance to run under it - failing to do so was a mistake. That said, that play was nowhere near the gimme that people are calling it. When guys are trying to essentially be psychic to determine how their teammate is going to handle a play, there's really nobody to blame if they can't pull it off.

It was a tough but makeable play. In a playoff game, making it may be the difference between advancing or going home. That said, Smith has shown that he can make that play on occasion as well. There's nothing that happened on that play to suggest that he can't hit it should it happen again later.

It's just not a 100% play. Sometimes he'll get it, sometimes he won't. You hope that the next time he does.

[DaneMcCloud]

Especially on a scramble play.

That wasn't a designed route, IMO. Ware saw the open space and ran upfield. Meanwhile Smith is running around trying to keep the play alive and had to make a bang/bang play.

I agree with an earlier poster that he should've lofted it out there to give Ware a chance to run under it - failing to do so was a mistake. That said, that play was nowhere near the gimme that people are calling it. When guys are trying to essentially be psychic to determine how their teammate is going to handle a play, there's really nobody to blame if they can't pull it off.

It was a tough but makeable play. In a playoff game, making it may be the difference between advancing or going home. That said, Smith has shown that he can make that play on occasion as well. There's nothing that happened on that play to suggest that he can't hit it should it happen again later.

It's just not a 100% play. Sometimes he'll get it, sometimes he won't. You hope that the next time he does.
It was miscommunication on a broken play, plain and simple.

Smith thought Ware would run full speed, Ware slowed down and thought Smith would hit him earlier. It's one of those plays that everyone involved wished that they could have back but the blame lies with neither player.

I'm actually happy to see the effort. This was Smith's best game since San Diego, IMO. It *appears* that he gained a lot of confidence in the 4th quarter and OT period in Denver, which is a great sign for the offense.

[DJ's left nut]

It was miscommunication on a broken play, plain and simple.

Smith thought Ware would run full speed, Ware slowed down and thought Smith would hit him earlier. It's one of those plays that everyone involved wished that they could have back but the blame lies with neither player.

I'm actually happy to see the effort. This was Smith's best game since San Diego, IMO. It *appears* that he gained a lot of confidence in the 4th quarter and OT period in Denver, which is a great sign for the offense.

I thought he was better against Oakland and New Orleans than he was against SD (and I still think he was far better against TB than people will acknowledge).

For as much as 'steady' gets thrown around w/r/t to Smith's play, he's been oddly erratic this year. He's had 5 games where I thought he played really well - Oakland, NO, TB, Atlanta and NYJ. Houston, Pittsburgh and Carolina were hot garbage. Then in SD and Denver he was hot garbage for 85% of the game before suddenly playing really well at the end.

The guy's been extremely hot and cold this year. It's really strange for a guy that has been so even his performances for the 3 previous seasons.

[chiefzilla1501]

Mostly disagree. Change the name to Andy, and I would. At the very least, the lack of aggression is more like a 70/30 ratio on HC and QB.

Most of what Smith does is by design.. from Reid. You can tell that Andy draws up lots of screens and designs to get the ball to just one target. You can tell that Andy doesn't want to risk Smith taking many hits.

First intended target is open at all, Smith will go to him... and he frequently does. Say that this first target is Hill on an 8 yard curl. Remotely open, and Smith hits him. He doesn't wait to see if Kelce.. the next option.. is getting open on a flag route. Why? because pass rush.. and he won't abandon the 8 yard gain just on the chance that maybe the next option might get open.. and maybe he'll have time to get it there. Smith is not a risk taker.. and only becomes one when it becomes more clearly necessary.

Yesterday was both HC and QB recognizing that the ATL offense might slaughter on the scoreboard.. and along with that, understanding that ATL was weaker in the secondary.

AMEN for that, because the ATL defense was shutting down the KC run game. What little Ware got was nearly all on his own toughness and ability.

Now, we see if Andy goes back to small ball... actually, maybe not this week.. as OAK has similar strengths and weaknesses as ATL. 70/30 ratio, imho.

If Alex was truly committing to his first read, we wouldn't have the problem of him holding onto the ball. Smith is tentative to throw to receivers who aren't open by a country mile. You can see it in games where he literally pump fakes to a reasonably open receiver.

He has to start getting rid of the ball faster. We have to see late game Alex show up in the 1st half. When Alex presses, he commits to his throws and the ball gets out a whole lot faster.