Chiefs superbowl window

[Reerun_KC]

Since we're a favorite to win it all this year. How long is our window open Incase we Reid it up in the playoffs.

How long can Smith effectively play at this super high level?

So what are your thoughts on how long our window is open for a championship?

[kcchiefsus]

Super high level? You mean how long before Smith goes from average at best to complete shit?

[loochy]

Since we're a favorite to win it all this year. How long is our window open Incase we Reid it up in the playoffs.

How long can Smith effectively play at this super high level?

So what are your thoughts on how long our window is open for a championship?

actually, decently long, especialyl if the injury bug doesn't smash us again

i don't really feel like it's dependent on smith

[ptlyon]

Mr. Blutousky, 0.0

[DaFace]

I don't know that I'd think of it as a "window" this time around. Sure, we're gonna lose some of our vets here soon (DJ, Hali, maybe Poe...), but Dorsey has proven he can build a solid team of guys that may not be superstars, but really function as a team. Reid's past says he can get teams to the playoffs pretty consistently.

I think this is the best shot we've had in years for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if we get another legit shot in the next 3-5 years.

One thing that's both exciting and terrifying though: I think our competition going forward is going to be the Raiders rather than the Broncos. We could be in for a few years of old-school Chiefs/Raiders rivalry.

[Jerok]

Well when the Chiefs sign Tony Romo this offseason we will win next year for sure.

[RunKC]

As long as Dorsey is here we'll be competing for the 1/2 seed. We just keep adding more and more talent every single year.

[Mile High Mania]

That's a hard one... things change so much from year to year. Ask Cam.

[Dante84]

As long as Dorsey keeps evaluating talent the way he has been, and we secure a QB, we could be contenders for years.

Draft Young talent
Send off the old talent for Comp picks
Continue to supplement for value vets, send off for Comp picks
Draft Young talent with Regular and Comp picks

[pugsnotdrugs19]

If you continually draft well and you have good coaching and leadership, I think you've always got a shot... assuming QB play is at least decent.

[RunKC]

The Chiefs have 2 of the most important traits of a consistent wining team:

-good coaching
-good drafting

Imagine the Chiefs keeping Poe/Berry and maintaning the same team as this year With an added FA and draft class?

[sedated]

Other than Berry and Poe, isn't pretty much every key player signed up for the next 3+ years?

[Pointer19]

I think this is the last shot Smith has. I'm not usually an Anti-Smither, but his days of scrambling for firsts seem over. We need a dynamic QB who can make the passes we need as well.

[carcosa]

the window is open as long as Bray is on the team

[O.city]

There's some young talent here, but they need to pair a young qb with it for a real window.

[ChiefsLV]

We're a favorite to win it all this year? Ima wait and see if we even win the division.

[InChiefsHeaven]

We're a favorite to win it all this year? Ima wait and see if we even win the division.

Beat me to it. I'm like...who is favouring the Chiefs??

[BlackHelicopters]

Mr. Blutousky, 0.0

You have no grade point average. All courses, incomplete.

[Mile High Mania]

Beat me to it. I'm like...who is favouring the Chiefs??

Well he did say 'a' favorite, not 'the'...

[chiefzilla1501]

I rarely support throwing money at free agents, but I support making some big moves even if it hurts our long term cap. I think we can keep a window open. What I know is our window is open now in ways it hasn't been in a very long time. And it's happening at a time where there are fewer dominant teams.

[DaneMcCloud]

There is no "window" with Reid and Dorsey. The Chiefs will be contenders for as long as they're employed.

The Chiefs currently have the 6th youngest team in the NFL, with NINE players on IR, of which, Bailey, Howard, Johnson, Charles, Mauga/March and Ehinger were starters coming into and during the season.

In addition, the Chiefs will have a full compliment of draft choices for only the second time that Dorsey has been in charge of personnel and they'll have multiple Compensation Picks that can be traded in 2017.

Andy Reid has proven in KC that he can win with a backup like Nick Foles or a Chase Daniel, so I'm not concerned about the QB situation Post-Smith.

Unlike so many other Chiefs head coaches, who changed their offensive philosophy year in and year out, Reid knows exactly what he wants and expects in his QB and staying in the same exact offensive and defensive systems is what leads teams to have long term stability and success.

[DaneMcCloud]

I rarely support throwing money at free agents, but I support making some big moves even if it hurts our long term cap. I think we can keep a window open. What I know is our window is open now in ways it hasn't been in a very long time. And it's happening at a time where there are fewer dominant teams.

Stupid

[raybec 4]

To put the window in perspective the Chiefs were the 6th youngest team (according to the active 53 in September) in the league. The three other teams with at least ten wins rank:

Cowboys 12th
Raiders 13th
Patriots 15th

So, it would be logical to say the Chiefs core may be together longer.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2016-edition/

[Red Dawg]

The Chiefs window won't be open until Brady quits or has his leg broke off.

[TripleThreat]

There's some young talent here, but they need to pair a young qb with it for a real window.

Lol just lol.

[TripleThreat]

The Chiefs window won't be open until Brady quits or has his leg broke off.

Teams like ours, are the teams that beat brady in the playoffs. That's why that one year when new York was playing sf in the nfc everyone was saying whoever won that, won the superbowl, even tho it was against new England. And what do u know? New York won it all haha

[RunKC]

I rarely support throwing money at free agents, but I support making some big moves even if it hurts our long term cap. I think we can keep a window open. What I know is our window is open now in ways it hasn't been in a very long time. And it's happening at a time where there are fewer dominant teams.

This is what gets you in trouble. This team has been built through the draft and it's what has made us so good.

Dee Ford, Chris Jones, Tyreek Hill, Marcus Peters, Mitch Morse.

All these guys have been among the best at their positions and we are paying these guys nothing.

[The Franchise]

It's going to be an interesting offseason to say the least. There are some fan favorite veterans that will probably be gone unless they agree to lesser deals.

[threebag]

That's a hard one... things change so much from year to year. Ask Mile High Mania.

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[ChiefsCountry]

It's the exact same window as the 90s Chiefs and we don't have Joe Montana coming on board anytime soon.

[CupidStunt]

The Chiefs have no window at all. The only hope is luck. ST returns. Breaks here or there. They don't have a QB, a running game or an elite defense (ala recent Denver/Seattle quality). I could imagine enough breaks and opposing mistakes to get through the likes of Indy, Baltimore, Miami. New England or Pittsburgh? It'll be no different to the last time we played each team.

Their QB will shit all over this defense, and our QB will do absolutely nothing vs their defenses.

Same old. Same old.

[MahiMike]

Well when the Chiefs sign Tony Romo this offseason we will win next year for sure.

Yeah we'll kick ass in the preseason until he gets hurt.

[Hoover]

If the Chiefs somehow hit on a young QB look out!

[Simply Red]

we'll be fine.

[philfree]

Just keep stacking the D with talent and the window will remain open.

[threebag]

Just keep stacking the D with talent and the window will remain open.

Yes

[Warrior5]

As others have stated already, I don't think we're a favorite to win it all this year... our lack of production on offense clearly has most prognosticators viewing the Chiefs as a 1 or 2 and done in the playoffs.

However, I'm hoping the Chiefs can build on the first half of the Raider game and build on that trend against the Titans, and on...

Let's win the division and a 1st round bye first.

As far as the future? As some have stated, as long as Reid and Dorsey are employed by Clark Hunt, I'm optimistic as long as we draft a young QB next year.

[threebag]

Won't happen until late round

[DaneMcCloud]

As others have stated already, I don't think we're a favorite to win it all this year... our lack of production on offense clearly has most prognosticators viewing the Chiefs as a 1 or 2 and done in the playoffs.

The Chiefs are #2 or #3 in every fucking Power Ranking by every major sports site.

I don't what the fuck you and the fucktards in this thread are talking about.

They've had more "Quality" wins than any other NFL team this year.

What a bunch of Negative Nancy's.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Most oddsmakers have KC as the team with the 3rd or even 2nd best odds to win the SB... They clearly are a contender right now. You don't beat Denver, Atlanta, and Oakland in 11 days and not qualify as a SB contender.

It ain't gonna be easy. They are going to need some good fortune (like any other playoff team) to make it. But I love the vibe and mindset this team seems to have about themselves and I'll believe in them no matter who or where they are playing.

[Simply Red]

we could go into Gillette and Schick them in the jugular!

[carcosa]

we'll be fine.

THIS!!!!

[KChiefs1]

As long as Dorsey/Reid are running the show, the window remains open.



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[KChiefs1]

There is no "window" with Reid and Dorsey. The Chiefs will be contenders for as long as they're employed.

The Chiefs currently have the 6th youngest team in the NFL, with NINE players on IR, of which, Bailey, Howard, Johnson, Charles, Mauga/March and Ehinger were starters coming into and during the season.

In addition, the Chiefs will have a full compliment of draft choices for only the second time that Dorsey has been in charge of personnel and they'll have multiple Compensation Picks that can be traded in 2017.

Andy Reid has proven in KC that he can win with a backup like Nick Foles or a Chase Daniel, so I'm not concerned about the QB situation Post-Smith.

Unlike so many other Chiefs head coaches, who changed their offensive philosophy year in and year out, Reid knows exactly what he wants and expects in his QB and staying in the same exact offensive and defensive systems is what leads teams to have long term stability and success.



You beat me to it.



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[RunKC]

Most oddsmakers have KC as the team with the 3rd or even 2nd best odds to win the SB... They clearly are a contender right now. You don't beat Denver, Atlanta, and Oakland in 11 days and not qualify as a SB contender.

It ain't gonna be easy. They are going to need some good fortune (like any other playoff team) to make it. But I love the vibe and mindset this team seems to have about themselves and I'll believe in them no matter who or where they are playing.

We won't win in NE. It is what it is

[Simply Red]

We won't win in NE. It is what it is

Any crowd can be removed - Anything is possible. Just how big is our heart?

[DaneMcCloud]

We won't win in NE. It is what it is

New England looked very beatable last night. The Ravens are probably an 8-8/9-7 team and it took several turnovers and easy TD's for the Patriots to hang on for the win.

I'm not saying it's a "lock" that the Chiefs win in New England but if this team remains healthy, they certainly have a strong chance of winning.

[Warrior5]

The Chiefs are #2 or #3 in every ****ing Power Ranking by every major sports site.

I don't what the **** you and the ****tards in this thread are talking about.

They've had more "Quality" wins than any other NFL team this year.

What a bunch of Negative Nancy's.

Thanks Dane for the immature name-calling. I was responding to the OP stating to "win it all." I read that as #1 in Power Rankings, as in #1 to win the SB.

As I stated, I'm hoping to see the offense continue building on the trend they set in the 1st half against the Raiders.

I'm the last person you can call a NN on this board. Have a great Chiefs day.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

We won't win in NE. It is what it is

Odds aren't in your favor, but it is most certainly possible...

Especially if Charles is back and up to par..

[KChiefs1]

We won't win in NE. It is what it is



So nothing to lose when the Chiefs face them in the AFC Championship game.

No experts will pick them.
They might have a chip on their shoulders from last year.
Maybe everyone(except DJ) will be healthy unlike last year.

I know our expectations will be low.




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[Rausch]

The Chiefs have only been in one game all year where they weren't competitive. Pitt just pushed out $#it in from pretty much opening kickoff.

Both the other losses were close and both the Bucs and the Texans might still make the playoffs.

We deserve to be in the playoffs as much or more than anyone.

Our biggest enemy right now is the injury bug...

[Rausch]

So nothing to lose when the Chiefs face them in the AFC Championship game.



NE doesn't want to play a healthy KC team...

[RunKC]

New England looked very beatable last night. The Ravens are probably an 8-8/9-7 team and it took several turnovers and easy TD's for the Patriots to hang on for the win.

I'm not saying it's a "lock" that the Chiefs win in New England but if this team remains healthy, they certainly have a strong chance of winning.

I just don't know how we will stop their offense.

Line up to stop the pass=250 lb Blount on a power run (they are very good at this).
Line up in single high to stop the run=screens and crossing routes

We would need Houston, Ford and Tamba to play games and the offense has to be on point and get TD's.

We would have to play a near perfect game

[carcosa]

Any crowd can be removed - Anything is possible. Just how big is our heart?

http://i.giphy.com/12FzFh6fiJzvq0.gif

[Rausch]

I just don't know how we will stop their offense.

Line up to stop the pass=250 lb Blount on a power run (they are very good at this).
Line up in single high to stop the run=screens and crossing routes

We would need Houston, Ford and Tamba to play games and the offense has to be on point and get TD's.

We would have to play a near perfect game

The NE offense is a methodical beast and not so much a big play offense.

That plays into our BBDB defense.

Our pass rush and front 5 should abuse that NE O line.

Brady is dangerous. No one else on that offense is...

[DaneMcCloud]

Thanks Dane for the immature name-calling.

You're welcome.

;)

[DaneMcCloud]

I just don't know how we will stop their offense.

Line up to stop the pass=250 lb Blount on a power run (they are very good at this).
Line up in single high to stop the run=screens and crossing routes

We would need Houston, Ford and Tamba to play games and the offense has to be on point and get TD's.

We would have to play a near perfect game

The defense has stopped every offense, other than the Steelers this year.

Keep in mind, the Raiders and Falcons were "high flying" defenses that the Chiefs beat.

Also, the Pats are without Gronk and the Chiefs have their best pass rushers available this year. And more importantly, they have a weapon in Tyreek Hill, which is something other teams don't have.

[O.city]

The ravens were only in the game because of 2 back to back special teams turnovers deep in territory.

It'll take a big effort to go into new england and win

[Coochie liquor]

I just don't know how we will stop their offense.

Line up to stop the pass=250 lb Blount on a power run (they are very good at this).
Line up in single high to stop the run=screens and crossing routes

We would need Houston, Ford and Tamba to play games and the offense has to be on point and get TD's.

We would have to play a near perfect game

We've played perfect games before. Or saying we WILL beat them if it comes to that, but I defense feel like it's possible after what I've seen this season. Hope we get that opportunity!!

[DaneMcCloud]

The Chiefs have only been in one game all year where they weren't competitive. Pitt just pushed out $#it in from pretty much opening kickoff.

Both the other losses were close and both the Bucs and the Texans might still make the playoffs.

We deserve to be in the playoffs as much or more than anyone.

Our biggest enemy right now is the injury bug...

The Chiefs had Fulton and Reid starting in place of Ehinger and LDT in Houston, along with a player in Maclin that had just lost his best friend, leaving him clearly unfocused (6-15 for 69 yards). Neither Hill or Kelce had emerged at the point and they were flat.

The Chiefs had several opportunities to win the Tampa game but just couldn't put it together. Had Marcus Peters played, I think they'd have won, as just a little more juice on the defense would have made all the difference. But hey, they were coming off a 5 game win streak, which had to end at some point.

[DaneMcCloud]

The ravens were only in the game because of 2 back to back special teams turnovers deep in territory.

It'll take a big effort to go into new england and win

The Ravens don't have the pass rushers in which to affect Brady like Denver did last year.

Houston, Ford, Hali and Jones will make for a helluva matchup against a Gronk-less Patriots.

And unlike some other teams that have giant receivers, guys like Nelson won't be matched up on a 6'5/6'6 WR. Edelman, Hogan and Amendola are "normal" matchups for Peters, Nelson, Gaines and Mitchell.

The mismatches just don't really exist.

[Rausch]

The Ravens don't have the pass rushers in which to affect Brady like Denver did last year.

Houston, Ford, Hali and Jones will make for a helluva matchup against a Gronk-less Patriots.

And unlike some other teams that have giant receivers, guys like Nelson won't be matched up on a 6'5/6'6 WR. Edelman, Hogan and Amendola are "normal" matchups for Peters, Nelson, Gaines and Mitchell.

The mismatches just don't really exist.

They don't have big playmakers - they just execute.

And a great pass rush is what beats a great passer. From Montana to Manning to Brady it's always effective...

[O.city]

The Ravens don't have the pass rushers in which to affect Brady like Denver did last year.

Houston, Ford, Hali and Jones will make for a helluva matchup against a Gronk-less Patriots.

And unlike some other teams that have giant receivers, guys like Nelson won't be matched up on a 6'5/6'6 WR. Edelman, Hogan and Amendola are "normal" matchups for Peters, Nelson, Gaines and Mitchell.

The mismatches just don't really exist.

Edelman and the other dudes aren't big, but with the ball coming out wuick, they're tough to handle.

The ravens d ain't no joke

[Rausch]

Edelman and the other dudes aren't big, but with the ball coming out wuick, they're tough to handle.

The ravens d ain't no joke

The Ravens are for real. That won't be an easy game but it's win-able.

[DaneMcCloud]

Edelman and the other dudes aren't big, but with the ball coming out wuick, they're tough to handle.

The ravens d ain't no joke

The Ravens pass rush isn't the same as in previous years and their best CB was out last night for most of the game.

I certainly like the match ups of the Chiefs secondary against the Patriots as opposed to guys like Kelvin Benjamin and Mike Evans.

Again, I'm not saying that the Chiefs will definitely beat the Patriots in New England but I think it's hardly insurmountable.

[Rausch]

Again, I'm not saying that the Chiefs will definitely beat the Patriots in New England but I think it's hardly insurmountable.

If we get that far, the AFCC game, I'm calling it.

We WILL beat the Pats if we get to play them...

[Reerun_KC]

I want Steelers at home in the divisional. @ NE for the AFCCG and want Dallas in the SB.

My dream playoffs

[Rausch]

I want Steelers at home in the divisional. @ NE for the AFCCG and want Dallas in the SB.

My dream playoffs

Too many playmakers on Pitt.

No fucking way do I want any part of that...

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Super high level? You mean how long before Smith goes from average at best to complete shit?

Village idiot

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Too many playmakers on Pitt.

No ****ing way do I want any part of that...

You could say the same about the Chiefs, especially if we have Charles...

Ben has been below average on the road the last two years.

[Reerun_KC]

Too many playmakers on Pitt.

No ****ing way do I want any part of that...

That's what I want to see. Not scared of Pittsburgh

[Reerun_KC]

You could say the same about the Chiefs, especially if we have Charles...

Ben has been below average on the road the last two years.

With Charles this team is unbeatable.

[KChiefs1]

I want Steelers at home in the divisional. @ NE for the AFCCG and want Dallas in the SB.

My dream playoffs



Chiefs will want payback on Pittsburgh for this year & Pats for last year.

I've always wanted Dallas in the Super Bowl to make up for 1971 when it should have been the Chiefs instead of the Dolphins.


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[CupidStunt]

That's what I want to see. Not scared of Pittsburgh

You were probably playing Madden when a rapist from over there hung a 40-burger on us, right?

Without even breaking a sweat. Could've been 60 if they needed it ... which, of course, they didn't, since Alex Smith managed a grand total of 0 points through 3 quarters.

[Rausch]

You could say the same about the Chiefs, especially if we have Charles...

Ben has been below average on the road the last two years.

Bell is a beast. Bono throwing to Brown would be a threat.

Fuck them. T0dd sitting in McDonalds eating a salad with this wife while the Chiefs win a playoff game would be perfect in my eyes...

[Chiefnj2]

If we get that far, the AFCC game, I'm calling it.

We WILL beat the Pats if we get to play them...

Andy Reid is going to out coach Belichick?

[ptlyon]

Andy Reid is going to out coach Belichick?

Depends. If we somehow play them in Arrowhead we could possibly get more wires in the air.

[DaneMcCloud]

Andy Reid is going to out coach Belichick?

Kubiak's done it, so has Harbaugh. Coughlin's done it twice in the biggest game of all.

Hell, even Dan fucking Campbell did it.

BB is not unbeatable.

[Warrior5]

Bell is a beast. Bono throwing to Brown would be a threat.

**** them. T0dd sitting in McDonalds eating a salad with this wife while the Chiefs win a playoff game would be perfect in my eyes...

ROFL

Haley is the new "teh 0dd T0dd."

[Reerun_KC]

You were probably playing Madden when a rapist from over there hung a 40-burger on us, right?

Without even breaking a sweat. Could've been 60 if they needed it ... which, of course, they didn't, since Alex Smith managed a grand total of 0 points through 3 quarters.

Sorry stopped playing Madden in 2006.

Still not worried. Especially if Charles is back.

[bricks]

The Chiefs have 2 of the most important traits of a consistent wining team:

-good coaching
-good drafting

Imagine the Chiefs keeping Poe/Berry and maintaning the same team as this year With an added FA and draft class?

There is a flip side to this

[scho63]

Well when the Chiefs sign Tony Romo this offseason we will win next year for sure.

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH! :cuss:

[bricks]

Kubiak's done it, so has Harbaugh. Coughlin's done it twice in the biggest game of all.

Hell, even Dan ****ing Campbell did it.

BB is not unbeatable.

He's not but it's safe to say that BB has Andy Reid's number over the years.

[scho63]

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[BigRedChief]

Since we're a favorite to win it all this year. How long is our window open Incase we Reid it up in the playoffs.

How long can Smith effectively play at this super high level?

So what are your thoughts on how long our window is open for a championship?we are favorites to win it all? Since when?

You watch that NE game? They still look like the big dogs on the block that have to be knocked off before you can even get to the SB.

[Reerun_KC]

we are favorites to win it all? Since when?

You watch that NE game? They still look like the big dogs on the block that have to be knocked off before you can even get to the SB.


Try re-reading the first sentence again.... Slowly, word by word....

"Since we're a favorite to win it all this year"

The key word is a


I never said we are favorites to win it all... But we are a favorite to win it all...

[loochy]

Try re-reading the first sentence again.... Slowly, word by word....

"Since we're a favorite to win it all this year"

The key word is a


I never said we are favorites to win it all...

WHY DO YOU THINK WE ARE BETTER THAN THE PATS?!?!?!

ONE TIME WE GOT BLOWN OUT BY THE STEELERS!

[OldSchool]

Well when the Chiefs sign Tony Romo this offseason we will win next year for sure.

Romo couldn't stay healthy behind the Dallas OL. Fat chance he lasts past the first snap in KC.

[SAUTO]

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That stained glass is bad ass

[CupidStunt]

Andy Reid is going to out coach Belichick?

Did it in the Super Bowl. Only he had McNabb while BB had Brady.

Could easily be the same thing in January. End of the day, they will always have Tom Brady, and we will always have Alex Smith.

:(

[crispystl]

We won't win in NE. It is what it is

Yes we will. Maybe not this year, but we are ascending and Tom Brady isn't getting any younger.

[chiefzilla1501]

They don't have big playmakers - they just execute.

And a great pass rush is what beats a great passer. From Montana to Manning to Brady it's always effective...

I don't understand the love for the ravens. Who exactly have they beaten this year?

[Gravedigger]

We haven't seen Andy Reid with a bye week on Wild Card weekend here in KC. If we get the 2 seed, I say our window is open and this is the year to buck the trend that NE is unbeatable at home.

[threebag]

This late in the year the Alex Smith hate is weak. The Quarterback Whisperers keep doubling down on stoopid, just like Clay. Don't look for a lot of action at the QB position any time soon barring injury (pest)

[Rausch]

ROFL

Haley is the new "teh 0dd T0dd."

T0dd II - The Re-T0dd...

[Rausch]

I don't understand the love for the ravens. Who exactly have they beaten this year?

They aren't great - just good. Much like us.

Their offense and QB have been mediocre much of the year (again, like us) but now they're warming up.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The Chiefs have no window at all. The only hope is luck. ST returns. Breaks here or there. They don't have a QB, a running game or an elite defense (ala recent Denver/Seattle quality). I could imagine enough breaks and opposing mistakes to get through the likes of Indy, Baltimore, Miami. New England or Pittsburgh? It'll be no different to the last time we played each team.

Their QB will shit all over this defense, and our QB will do absolutely nothing vs their defenses.

Same old. Same old.

What a fucking moron.

[Chief Roundup]

How long can Smith effectively play at this super high level?


This is a ridiculous statement within this question. First off he is not playing at a super high level. It is amazing how quickly a win or two with a decent showing makes some forget the awfulness that is very often.

I have not read the thread but I am sure I am not the first to have something to say about this part of the OP.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

NE doesn't want to play a healthy KC team...

Neither does Pitt