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RunKC
12-18-2016, 03:07 PM
Unreal

CupidStunt
12-18-2016, 03:08 PM
Of course it is. We're not that good. Mostly Smith, of course, for being inept at moving the ball AT ALL vs a very average defense.

Like always.

phisherman
12-18-2016, 03:08 PM
Just stupid.

TribalElder
12-18-2016, 03:09 PM
Andy timeouts are pretty horrible

thabear04
12-18-2016, 03:10 PM
Two games the Chiefs haven't scored on offense in the second half smh.

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 03:10 PM
TigerUnclefucker says it's the defense's fault

jonzie04
12-18-2016, 03:10 PM
Fuck this pussy ass offense. Not a single point in the second half. Couldn't convert the final 3rd down. Red zone pick. Fuck them all

Lonewolf Ed
12-18-2016, 03:10 PM
Why this offense is only good for two TDs a game anymore is baffling but mostly inexcusable.

RunKC
12-18-2016, 03:11 PM
DAT drop
Alex INT
TWO fails trying to get one fucking yard

MTG#10
12-18-2016, 03:11 PM
Uh no, this is on Dumb and Dumber aka Andy and Alex

oaklandhater
12-18-2016, 03:11 PM
Can be said of every game this season other then pitt Lets see tiger spin this one...

New World Order
12-18-2016, 03:11 PM
Isn't this the second straight game where we've failed to score a second half point?

Fucking trash

King_Chief_Fan
12-18-2016, 03:11 PM
Reid hets some credit....his decisions tje last 3 min were huge mistakes

FlaChief58
12-18-2016, 03:12 PM
Yep, this game shouldn't have been close. Chefs gonna chefs

Sofa King
12-18-2016, 03:12 PM
Embarrassing fucking offense.

milkman
12-18-2016, 03:12 PM
Come on guys.

If the defense had just held the Titans to 16 points, the Chiefs win.

This is all on the defense.

Spott
12-18-2016, 03:12 PM
It's all on fucking Reid.

petegz28
12-18-2016, 03:12 PM
2 shit plays from the 1 yard line..
a pick in the end zone...
dropped pass by DAT...
crap play calls the entire 2nd half....

AussieChiefsFan
12-18-2016, 03:12 PM
And the retarded play calling

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carcosa
12-18-2016, 03:13 PM
Andy Reid is a goddamn moron too

King_Chief_Fan
12-18-2016, 03:13 PM
Funny how a game like this brings us back to reality.....this team is not that good

FloridaMan88
12-18-2016, 03:13 PM
Chiefs had barely 100 yards of total offense the second half.

Alex Smith with yet another INT in the end zone that prevented at least a likely FG (those 3 points in a 2 point loss could have been somewhat relevant).

And of course you can go down the line and point at DAT, Albert Wilson, the shitty play calling, the inability to pick up short yardage third downs, etc., etc. etc.

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 03:14 PM
We don't get a special teams or defensive TD and we lose a close game.

WHO COULD HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN THIS COMING?

RunKC
12-18-2016, 03:14 PM
Can you blame Andy for calling that last play?

The running game SUCKS

TribalElder
12-18-2016, 03:15 PM
DAT not getting the TD

mnchiefsguy
12-18-2016, 03:15 PM
This loss is on Alex, Andy, and Bob Sutton.

KC_Lee
12-18-2016, 03:16 PM
Smell like one and done to me...if we make it to the playoffs.

notorious
12-18-2016, 03:16 PM
Funny how a game like this brings us back to reality.....this team is not that good

They are above average. Top 10.


The offense just kills us at the worst time.

TribalElder
12-18-2016, 03:16 PM
Also, getting kelce 100 yards leads to quite a few wins

Let's target him in a shovel pass

gonefishin53
12-18-2016, 03:16 PM
The Chiefs 2 best attacking players, Kelce and Hill, barely got a chance to contribute in the second half. FU Andy and Alex.

dj56dt58
12-18-2016, 03:16 PM
if Andy shoves the last 2 timeouts up his ass this shit never happens. He literally gave them the last touchdown and game winning field goal with his dumbass timeout decisions. Oh the titans look confused..maybe we should call a timeout for them since they are out!

scho63
12-18-2016, 03:16 PM
Reid's play calling 50%
Alex Smith 30%
DAT 20%

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2016, 03:17 PM
This is the same offensive performance they've had the last several games. The only difference is that they didn't get return touchdowns to cover up for the offense's flaws.

The offense has scored:

13 against Carolina
17 against Tampa
21 against Denver (in five quarters)
13 against Atlanta
14 against the Raiders
17 today

When they don't get return TDs, they get exposed.

notorious
12-18-2016, 03:17 PM
Reid's play calling 50%
Alex Smith 30%
DAT 20%


Meh.

I put it 100% on Alex Smith's INT and DATS dumbfuckery. Reid can't force his players to execute.

FloridaMan88
12-18-2016, 03:17 PM
The reality is this team is the 1995 team... they have benefitted from timely turnovers that has masked many many many issues with this team, starting with the shitty QB play.

LiveSteam
12-18-2016, 03:18 PM
This teams biggest problem on both sides of the ball.
Is 3rd down. They are pathetic on 3rd down.

notorious
12-18-2016, 03:18 PM
And the bizarro thing is that the Chiefs won the turnover battle 3-1.


How messed up is that? ROFL

FloridaMan88
12-18-2016, 03:18 PM
Reid's play calling 50%
Alex Smith 30%
DAT 20%

I'd say it is 75% Alex Smith... Andy Reid's play calling is a product of trying to compensate and cover up for Alex Smith's limitations as a QB.

Sannyasi
12-18-2016, 03:19 PM
I wouldn't even blame the entire offense. Maclin played well, Kelce and Hill did what they could with what they were given. Ware was okay. The rest can go fuck themselves.

cdcox
12-18-2016, 03:19 PM
Why this offense is only good for two TDs a game anymore is baffling but mostly inexcusable.

Because Reid is content to sit on a lead. We go multiple drives where we don't even challenge the secondary.

Bwana
12-18-2016, 03:20 PM
Couldn't pick up a 1st down when they needed it to win the game, just sad.

Bwana
12-18-2016, 03:20 PM
Because Reid is content to sit on a lead. We go multiple drives where we don't even challenge the secondary.

This too.

ModSocks
12-18-2016, 03:20 PM
The offense created chances for themselves today but failed to convert on them. They're close. Very close. They shoulda had 28 today, not 17.

I don't think it's quite that bad.

Short yardage and goal to go situations have been killing this team.

CupidStunt
12-18-2016, 03:21 PM
If not for a single special moment from Hill and countless lucky plays in our favour, this is a typical Chuffs home blowout loss vs an average team.

All because their QB shits all over ours.

Just like every week.

Psyko Tek
12-18-2016, 03:21 PM
Come on guys.

If the defense had just held the Titans to 16 points, the Chiefs win.

This is all on the defense.

FUCK YEAH
how many points did the D score
less than the offense
and the special teams not even one TD run back
Does the offense have to do all the scoreing?
you know throwing sideways SCREENS TAKES A LOT OUT OF A TEAM

jebus fucking christ Andy you should be stripped of your head set and sent to the nearest all you can eat buffet on game days

RunKC
12-18-2016, 03:23 PM
If Ansy sticks to his conservative nature and kicks the FG instead of going for it we win.

But people will give Andy shit even tho he had the balls to go for it on 4th down. Half a yard for a TD. That's on the players.

I mean come the fuck on. People always bitch at Andy for passing all the time but he tried running today

FloridaMan88
12-18-2016, 03:23 PM
The offense created chances for themselves today but failed to convert on them. They're close. Very close. They shoulda had 28 today, not 17.

I don't think it's quite that bad.

Short yardage and goal to go situations have been killing this team.

Four years in now for this same offense and the best that can be said is "they're close, very close"?

That is pathetic.

B2chiefsfan
12-18-2016, 03:23 PM
For fuck sakes.... put points on the board.!!!!


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notorious
12-18-2016, 03:23 PM
The Chiefs are HORRIBLE at home. WTF?

farmerchief
12-18-2016, 03:24 PM
Meh.

I put it 100% on Alex Smith's INT and DATS dumb****ery. Reid can't force his players to execute.
DAT has never been known for great hands since he's been in KC. He's taking targets from Hill, who has been known to have excellant hands. Furthermore, all of Alligator Arms Wilsons targets should be going to Hill.

OnTheWarpath15
12-18-2016, 03:24 PM
This is the same offensive performance they've had the last several games. The only difference is that they didn't get return touchdowns to cover up for the offense's flaws.

The offense has scored:

13 against Carolina
17 against Tampa
21 against Denver (in five quarters)
13 against Atlanta
14 against the Raiders
17 today

When they don't get return TDs, they get exposed.

Carolina - 30th in passing defense
Tampa - 16th in passing defense
Denver - 1st in passing defense
Atlanta - 32nd in passing defense
Oakland - 27th in passing defense
Tennessee - 31st in passing defense

They've averaged 14.25 points against four of the six worst passing defenses in the NFL.

notorious
12-18-2016, 03:25 PM
DAT has never been known for great hands since he's been in KC. He's taking targets from Hill, who has been known to have excellant hands. Furthermore, all of Alligator Arms Wilsons targets should be going to Hill.

I agree 100000%

ThaVirus
12-18-2016, 03:26 PM
I wouldn't even blame the entire offense. Maclin played well, Kelce and Hill did what they could with what they were given. Ware was okay. The rest can go **** themselves.

We ran for, probably, 175-ish yards and only gave up 1 sack. The OL played well.

Alex and DAT lost this game.

Sandy Vagina
12-18-2016, 03:26 PM
It's all on ****ing Reid.

mostly THIS, but Alice is a jackass for that ridiculous EZ pick.

Bob Dole
12-18-2016, 03:26 PM
The offense created chances for themselves today but failed to convert on them. They're close. Very close. They shoulda had 28 today, not 17.

I don't think it's quite that bad.

Short yardage and goal to go situations have been killing this team.

Not sure why we have a Hungry Pig package and don't fucking use it from a foot out.

FloridaMan88
12-18-2016, 03:26 PM
DAT has never been known for great hands since he's been in KC. He's taking targets from Hill, who has been known to have excellant hands. Furthermore, all of Alligator Arms Wilsons targets should be going to Hill.

Good offensive coordinators/play callers maximize opportunities to get the ball to their best playmakers.

Andy Reid instead takes his best playmakers out of the game with his shitty play calling that instead calls too many plays for the likes of DAT, Harris, Wilson, etc.

chiefzilla1501
12-18-2016, 03:27 PM
If Ansy sticks to his conservative nature and kicks the FG instead of going for it we win.

But people will give Andy shit even tho he had the balls to go for it on 4th down. Half a yard for a TD. That's on the players.

I mean come the **** on. People always bitch at Andy for passing all the time but he tried running today

Us anyone bitching about that? Andy called a horrible game, but that's not a call I'm at all upset about. The playcall on 3rd/4th down on that series however....

rico
12-18-2016, 03:27 PM
mostly THIS, but Alice is a jackass for that ridiculous EZ pick.

Forced post is forced....reminds me of someone else who forces things. Weird.

farmerchief
12-18-2016, 03:28 PM
Smiths passes seemed to sail on him the second half, he regressed, and Kelce and Hill, our two playmakers, sure didn't get enough targets!!!

Mr. Laz
12-18-2016, 03:28 PM
I'd say it is 75% Alex Smith... Andy Reid's play calling is a product of trying to compensate and cover up for Alex Smith's limitations as a QB.
Do you even watch the games?

When call plays going forward are offense looks solid and we move the ball.


Then Andy The Panda starts going sideways and shutting it down and our offense looks like shit.

Reid isn't covering up for shit

FloridaMan88
12-18-2016, 03:29 PM
Do you even watch the games?

When call plays going forward are offense looks solid and we move the ball.


Then Andy The Panda starts going sideways and shutting it down and our offense looks like shit.

Reid isn't covering up for shit

Did you watch the game and watch Alex Smith air mail wide open WR's?

Did you watch the game and watch Alex Smith vomit away a sure fire FG opportunity with a terrible end zone INT?

cdcox
12-18-2016, 03:29 PM
If Ansy sticks to his conservative nature and kicks the FG instead of going for it we win.

But people will give Andy shit even tho he had the balls to go for it on 4th down. Half a yard for a TD. That's on the players.

I mean come the **** on. People always bitch at Andy for passing all the time but he tried running today

We actually got that FG after the Titan's 3 and out at the end of the half. DAT cost us 4 by not having his head in the game. Alex's INT cost us another 3.

The limited touches by Kelce and Hill probably cost us some other points.

farmerchief
12-18-2016, 03:29 PM
Good offensive coordinators/play callers maximize opportunities to get the ball to their best playmakers.

Andy Reid instead takes his best playmakers out of the game with his shitty play calling that instead calls too many plays for the likes of DAT, Harris, Wilson, etc. exactly, excellant Post!:thumb::thumb::thumb:

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2016, 03:30 PM
There's no reason to have a meltdown over this. Everyone knew what the Chiefs were getting when they traded for Smith. This is the ceiling of an Alex Smith team with a good defense.

You get a lot of regular season wins, and if everything breaks your way, maybe you can run into Brian Hoyer in the playoffs.

You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.

Aspengc8
12-18-2016, 03:30 PM
both home losses alex throws a pick in the endzone, when the receiver was not even remotely open. this is coming from someone labeled as a "game manager". fuck outta here

oaklandhater
12-18-2016, 03:30 PM
There's no reason to have a meltdown over this. Everyone knew what the Chiefs were getting when they traded for Smith. This is the ceiling of an Alex Smith team with a good defense.

You get a lot of regular season wins, and if everything breaks your way, maybe you can run into Brian Hoyer in the playoffs.

You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.

This

jjchieffan
12-18-2016, 03:30 PM
Players failed a lot today I agree. But they did enough to win. Bad Andy came out to play today and that's what screwed things up. That stupid TO at the end was the one that eventually cost the game, but the short yardage calls killed us. Not once did they try the jet sweep in that situation. It ALWAYS gains at least 3-4 yards. Ugh! Andy you sucked today!!

notorious
12-18-2016, 03:30 PM
There's no reason to have a meltdown over this. Everyone knew what the Chiefs were getting when they traded for Smith. This is the ceiling of an Alex Smith team with a good defense.

You get a lot of regular season wins, and if everything breaks your way, maybe you can run into Brian Hoyer in the playoffs.

You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.

both home losses alex throws a pick in the endzone, when the receiver was not even remotely open. this is coming from someone labeled as a "game manager". **** outta here

These.

OnTheWarpath15
12-18-2016, 03:32 PM
There's no reason to have a meltdown over this. Everyone knew what the Chiefs were getting when they traded for Smith. This is the ceiling of an Alex Smith team with a good defense.

You get a lot of regular season wins, and if everything breaks your way, maybe you can run into Brian Hoyer in the playoffs.

You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.

Exactly.

This is pretty much the same game they've played all year, they just didn't force some miraculous turnover or score on defense/special teams. We've been extremely fortunate to win a handful of games, and today that luck ran out.

dirk digler
12-18-2016, 03:32 PM
There's no reason to have a meltdown over this. Everyone knew what the Chiefs were getting when they traded for Smith. This is the ceiling of an Alex Smith team with a good defense.

You get a lot of regular season wins, and if everything breaks your way, maybe you can run into Brian Hoyer in the playoffs.

You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.

True and throw Reid in there as well. Both fucking worthless and I didn't want either.

dannybcaitlyn
12-18-2016, 03:33 PM
Good offensive coordinators/play callers maximize opportunities to get the ball to their best playmakers.

Andy Reid instead takes his best playmakers out of the game with his shitty play calling that instead calls too many plays for the likes of DAT, Harris, Wilson, etc.

This. Reid needs to fire himself from calling plays. ASAP

suzzer99
12-18-2016, 03:34 PM
both home losses alex throws a pick in the endzone, when the receiver was not even remotely open. this is coming from someone labeled as a "game manager". fuck outta here

He really got the trifecta on that one - 1) stared down a receiver, who 2) wasn't even open, and 3) threw it where pretty much only the defender could catch it.

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ModSocks
12-18-2016, 03:34 PM
This team needs to develop a short yardage running game ASAP. It's been an issue all year and it cost this team two scoring opportunities today, as well the game clencher.

Andy Reid needs to either start getting real cutesy-like, or the OL better wake the fuck up.

PRIEST
12-18-2016, 03:35 PM
There's no reason to have a meltdown over this. Everyone knew what the Chiefs were getting when they traded for Smith. This is the ceiling of an Alex Smith team with a good defense.

You get a lot of regular season wins, and if everything breaks your way, maybe you can run into Brian Hoyer in the playoffs.

You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.




Truth !!

suzzer99
12-18-2016, 03:37 PM
Bring Marcus Allen out of retirement for short yardage.

jspchief
12-18-2016, 03:38 PM
We don't get a special teams or defensive TD and we lose a close game.

WHO COULD HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN THIS COMING?
.
This is the same offensive performance they've had the last several games. The only difference is that they didn't get return touchdowns to cover up for the offense's flaws.

The offense has scored:

13 against Carolina
17 against Tampa
21 against Denver (in five quarters)
13 against Atlanta
14 against the Raiders
17 today

When they don't get return TDs, they get exposed.

FUCK YEAH
how many points did the D score
less than the offense
and the special teams not even one TD run back
Does the offense have to do all the scoreing?
you know throwing sideways SCREENS TAKES A LOT OUT OF A TEAM

jebus fucking christ Andy you should be stripped of your head set and sent to the nearest all you can eat buffet on game days

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 03:38 PM
Yes, the offense as a whole wasnt good, to put it mildly... but I think special scorn should go to the O line, they got their asses roundly and sounded whipped on 3rd and short plays all ****ing day long

Its been a problem all year, and today it came to a head... **** you fat, candyass, finesse jackoffs

FloridaMan88
12-18-2016, 03:39 PM
Bring Marcus Allen out of retirement for short yardage.

Only if Grunhard/Shields/Szott come with him.

TimBone
12-18-2016, 03:40 PM
I think I should take some blame here. The offense was on fire until I entered the game chat and mentioned how good they looked. They didn't do shit the rest of the day.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2016, 03:41 PM
This team needs to develop a short yardage running game ASAP. It's been an issue all year and it cost this team two scoring opportunities today, as well the game clencher.

Andy Reid needs to either start getting real cutesy-like, or the OL better wake the fuck up.

It is what it is. Reid has gotten 100% of what he could out of Smith. If you want to fault Reid, fault him for the personnel acquisition. He's done all he could with Smith via play-calling, but eventually teams realize that your offense only works horizontally and there is little risk in jamming the box with eight or nine guys.

It's not an OL or a play-calling issue. Alex Smith is the governor on the offense. This is your top speed.

OnTheWarpath15
12-18-2016, 03:41 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce on why <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> O fell flat after the 1st quarter, &quot;Other than play-calling, I couldn&#39;t tell you. Felt like we got conservative&quot;</p>&mdash; Mike Welch (@RealMikeWelch) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMikeWelch/status/810596862025678848">December 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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suzzer99
12-18-2016, 03:42 PM
Except for the 2pt conversion our pass rush came up small most of the day.

Jerm
12-18-2016, 03:43 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce on why <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> O fell flat after the 1st quarter, &quot;Other than play-calling, I couldn&#39;t tell you. Felt like we got conservative&quot;</p>&mdash; Mike Welch (@RealMikeWelch) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMikeWelch/status/810596862025678848">December 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Here. We. Go.

Buckle up fellas....

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 03:43 PM
Uh-oh, now Kelce is calling out Andy for playcalling

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2016, 03:47 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce on why <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> O fell flat after the 1st quarter, &quot;Other than play-calling, I couldn&#39;t tell you. Felt like we got conservative&quot;</p>&mdash; Mike Welch (@RealMikeWelch) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMikeWelch/status/810596862025678848">December 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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He's not wrong, but he's also a huge piece of shit.

dannybcaitlyn
12-18-2016, 03:48 PM
Uh-oh, now Kelce is calling out Andy for playcalling

Well shit. Even he knows.

Sandy Vagina
12-18-2016, 03:49 PM
Uh-oh, now Kelce is calling out Andy for playcalling

I like it. SOMETHING has to get through to Reid. SOMEONE has to have the balls to say it.

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 03:53 PM
Well shit. Even he knows.

I've seen worse playcalling from Reid, at some point the players need to ****ing execute

Smiths pick

DAT cant catch a cold

And neither can Harris

O line is wearing lacy panties

UK_Chief
12-18-2016, 03:53 PM
Was it just me who thought alex had a decent window of time to throw? Yes the run blocking was crappy but pass protection? Am I going mad??

kcpasco
12-18-2016, 03:54 PM
He's not wrong, but he's also a huge piece of shit.

Why is he a pos? The conservative shit cost us a W.

HemiEd
12-18-2016, 03:54 PM
**** this pussy ass offense. Not a single point in the second half. Couldn't convert the final 3rd down. Red zone pick. **** them all
You forgot about the 4th and goal from the 1?

***edit** The coin toss, we were bound to lose one of these. Remember pick 2?

notorious
12-18-2016, 03:55 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce on why <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> O fell flat after the 1st quarter, &quot;Other than play-calling, I couldn&#39;t tell you. Felt like we got conservative&quot;</p>&mdash; Mike Welch (@RealMikeWelch) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMikeWelch/status/810596862025678848">December 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Oh No.


Tell Andy that, not the press, Travis. :facepalm:

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 03:55 PM
Was it just me who thought alex had a decent window of time to throw? Yes the run blocking was crappy but pass protection? Am I going mad??

Yeah they kept him pretty clean, for whatever good it did

OnTheWarpath15
12-18-2016, 03:56 PM
I love how the running game is taking the heat.

They ran for roughly 160. Even if you take out Hill's run, they still averaged 4 per carry against the 3rd ranking rushing defense.

Not taking advantage of the 31st ranked passing defense was the issue.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2016, 03:56 PM
Why is he a pos? The conservative shit cost us a W.

I didn't say that he was wrong. In fact, I said the opposite

I called him a piece of shit because he's an attention whore that only cares about himself. But you see other TE's getting ejected from games and starting shit in the media all the time.

Kelce is a very good football player. He's also a complete jackass.

notorious
12-18-2016, 03:57 PM
Andy has a Corvette, Lamborghini, and a Ferrari sitting in the garage, but chooses an 80 year old grandma to drive the cars to the grocery store while using shitting directions.

New World Order
12-18-2016, 03:57 PM
There's no reason to have a meltdown over this. Everyone knew what the Chiefs were getting when they traded for Smith. This is the ceiling of an Alex Smith team with a good defense.

You get a lot of regular season wins, and if everything breaks your way, maybe you can run into Brian Hoyer in the playoffs.

You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.


Hamas hit the nail right on the head.

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 04:00 PM
I love how the running game is taking the heat.

They ran for roughly 160. Even if you take out Hill's run, they still averaged 4 per carry against the 3rd ranking rushing defense.

Not taking advantage of the 31st ranked passing defense was the issue.

Thats good and all, but what about getting it done when it COUNTS?

I'm not absolving Smith of anything... but its not all about him today

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 04:01 PM
DAT drop
Alex INT
TWO fails trying to get one ****ing yard

Tyreek missing a catchable TD. Harris killing another drive as usual. DAT not reaching out for the TD. Reid not taking the FG with the lead.

dirk digler
12-18-2016, 04:02 PM
Andy has a Corvette, Lamborghini, and a Ferrari sitting in the garage, but chooses an 80 year old grandma to drive the cars to the grocery store while using shitting directions.

LMAO So true.

I am so glad I don't give a shit as much as I used to. This loss was unacceptable and really should be a fire able offense.

HemiEd
12-18-2016, 04:02 PM
Reid's play calling 50%
Alex Smith 30%
DAT 20%

:clap: succinct

Sandy Vagina
12-18-2016, 04:03 PM
Thats good and all, but what about getting it done when it COUNTS?

I'm not absolving Smith of anything... but its not all about him today

good post.

The run game was pretty good on the majority of carries... but the carries that most mattered in critical situations? huge fail.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 04:04 PM
TigerUncle****er says it's the defense's fault

Show me the quote you ***hat.

I said this was a team loss. The defense carries the burden too...a lot of poor performances on defense such as giving up 6 yards a carry, inexistent pass rush, Berry giving up a deep ball that turned into points, Delanie walker shredding us in the final quarter, and letting the titans move the ball down the field with only 60 seconds left.


Team wins. Team losses. Enough said.

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 04:07 PM
Tyreek missing a catchable TD. Harris killing another drive as usual. DAT not reaching out for the TD. Reid not taking the FG with the lead.

Get the ***K OUT pointing a finger at Hill

chiefzilla1501
12-18-2016, 04:08 PM
Show me the quote you ***hat.

I said this was a team loss. The defense carries the burden too...a lot of poor performances on defense such as giving up 6 yards a carry, inexistent pass rush, Berry giving up a deep ball that turned into points, Delanie walker shredding us in the final quarter, and letting the titans move the ball down the field with only 60 seconds left.


Team wins. Team losses. Enough said.

Except when the Chiefs win. Then it's an Alex Smith win.

KevB
12-18-2016, 04:08 PM
I love how the running game is taking the heat.

They ran for roughly 160. Even if you take out Hill's run, they still averaged 4 per carry against the 3rd ranking rushing defense.

Not taking advantage of the 31st ranked passing defense was the issue.

A bad secondary that lost 2 starters in the 1st half.

notorious
12-18-2016, 04:09 PM
Get the ***K OUT pointing a finger at Hill

He's a moron. Just ignore him.

KevB
12-18-2016, 04:09 PM
Get the ***K OUT pointing a finger at Hill

Calling that Hill ball catchable is funny

notorious
12-18-2016, 04:11 PM
I find it amusing that few would be talking about our offensive failure if a former KC kicker misses a 53 yard FG.

It's insanity.

RunKC
12-18-2016, 04:13 PM
The offense was actually good in the first half. 17 points in a half with this defense is great.

But my god we couldn't even get w FG in the 2nd half. Just embarrassing

HemiEd
12-18-2016, 04:14 PM
Calling that Hill ball catchable is funny

He needs to be 6 ' 8" and run a 4.25

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 04:16 PM
Playcalling was ****. Why we are running read option with West or giving him handoffs to the short side of the field is beyond me.

stevieray
12-18-2016, 04:17 PM
The offense was actually good in the first half. 17 points in a half with this defense is great.

But my god we couldn't even get w FG in the 2nd half. Just embarrassing

we should have kicked that FG on 4th down.

MeatRock
12-18-2016, 04:18 PM
Smith did a great job of setting up Colquitt in the second half. Gotta give him credit.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 04:19 PM
He's a moron. Just ignore him.

Oh really? Where was the pass rush today?

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 04:20 PM
we should have kicked that FG on 4th down.

Reid made the same mistake Dan quinn did against us. It's stupid. He tried to get cute/selfish and it backfired. These kinds of things sit in the back of your mind as the game progresses.

RunKC
12-18-2016, 04:21 PM
Alex throwing that INT was as big of a **** up as anything.

If we even get a FG the game is it of reach. Instead it gave Tennessee all the momentum.

nascher
12-18-2016, 04:22 PM
If Ansy sticks to his conservative nature and kicks the FG instead of going for it we win.

But people will give Andy shit even tho he had the balls to go for it on 4th down. Half a yard for a TD. That's on the players.

I mean come the **** on. People always bitch at Andy for passing all the time but he tried running today

Absolutely multiple chances they failed.

TEX
12-18-2016, 04:22 PM
we should have kicked that FG on 4th down.

Yep. I was shocked we didn't, especially when you consider what happened a few weeks ago against Tampa Bay. Both of those games also featured an awful end zone Int. 3 points in either game would have been huge and probably results in a win. Oh well... Live and learn. Wait / What?... :shake:

stevieray
12-18-2016, 04:24 PM
Yep. I was shocked we didn't, especially when you consider what happened a few weeks ago against Tampa Bay. 3 points in either game would have been huge and probably results in a win. Oh well... Live and learn. Wait / What?... :shake:

win as a team, lose as a team..in these conditions you HAVE to take the points.


No way an ex Chief misses that second kick.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 04:25 PM
Alex throwing that INT was as big of a **** up as anything.

If we even get a FG the game is it of reach. Instead it gave Tennessee all the momentum.

Well you can't ***** about Smith to be off the team and praise him for beating Denver/Oakland/Atlanta/Saints in previous weeks...

We are only in the position we are because of the players and the coaches. Be grateful we aren't fighting to be 0.500

dirk digler
12-18-2016, 04:26 PM
we should have kicked that FG on 4th down.

Yep and was just shaking my head when he decided to go for it. This team hasn't been very good at short yardage all year so take the easy pts especially in this kind of weather.

Also I thought the playcall on the big 3rd down with the Alex scramble was the right call but they should have spread them out 5 wide or something.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2016, 04:28 PM
Yep and was just shaking my head when he decided to go for it. This team hasn't been very good at short yardage all year so take the easy pts especially in this kind of weather.

Also I thought the playcall on the big 3rd down with the Alex scramble was the right call but they should have spread them out 5 wide or something.

The Chiefs also took points off the board against Denver for a procedure penalty, and ended up scoring a TD, which helped provide them the points they needed to get to OT.

It goes both ways.

Chiefshrink
12-18-2016, 04:28 PM
No way an ex Chief misses that second kick.

BOOM !!

We asked for it and got it !!

scho63
12-18-2016, 04:31 PM
Meh.

I put it 100% on Alex Smith's INT and DATS dumb****ery. Reid can't force his players to execute.

Reid's play calling was HORRIBLE, gotta give him some blame

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 04:37 PM
Show me the quote you ***hat.

I said this was a team loss. The defense carries the burden too...a lot of poor performances on defense such as giving up 6 yards a carry, inexistent pass rush, Berry giving up a deep ball that turned into points, Delanie walker shredding us in the final quarter, and letting the titans move the ball down the field with only 60 seconds left.


Team wins. Team losses. Enough said.

The defense the offense a fuck ton of opportunities to manufacture points. They allowed fewer than 20.

They've been doing the same thing all season. THEY'VE been holding up their end of the bargain.

The offense has not. And who do you have to look to for that problem?

The coach, yes. And the QB that's supposed to be very model of efficiency, execution, and precision when the defense gives you an opening.

He's been churning out 2 TDs/game the past many weeks.

That's not efuckingnough.

Facts, not fiction.

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 04:40 PM
Oh really? Where was the pass rush today?

Where was the magic QB that throws accurate short passes and makes good decisions?*



*except when he doesn't, then he deserves a free pass

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 04:42 PM
Well you can't ***** about Smith to be off the team and praise him for beating Denver/Oakland/Atlanta/Saints in previous weeks...

We are only in the position we are because of the players and the coaches. Be grateful we aren't fighting to be 0.500

Did Alex Smith beat Denver/Oakland/Atlanta/Saints or was it the team?

You can't have it both ways. When the Chiefs lose, you can't scream "TEAM LOSS" and when they win you can't say "ALEX WIN"

stevieray
12-18-2016, 04:42 PM
The defense the offense a **** ton of opportunities to manufacture points. They allowed fewer than 20.

They've been doing the same thing all season. THEY'VE been holding up their end of the bargain.

The offense has not. And who do you have to look to for that problem?
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The coach, yes. And the QB that's supposed to be very model of efficiency, execution, and precision when the defense gives you an opening.

He's been churning out 2 TDs/game the past many weeks.

That's not e****ingnough.

Facts, not fiction.

ya, but each game scenario is different. You've got be able to stop them with the game on the line, just like the previous series,, the offense had to seal it...but when they didn't..the lead was theirs to protect.

ThaVirus
12-18-2016, 04:45 PM
ya, but each game scenario is different. You've got be able to stop them with the game on the line, just like the previous series,, the offense had to seal it...but when they didn't..the lead was theirs to protect.

The defense does so far more often than not

MeatRock
12-18-2016, 04:45 PM
ya, but each game scenario is different. You've got be able to stop them with the game on the line, just like the previous series,, the offense had to seal it...but when they didn't..the lead was theirs to protect.

Unless of course, the offense continues to go 3 and out in the second half. Sooner or later the opposing offense will make enough plays to score.

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 04:46 PM
ya, but each game scenario is different. You've got be able to stop them with the game on the line.

Yes. When you need them to do it, they have to do it.

They've been doing exactly that. Against some powerful and explosive offensive attacks.

Not scoring any points in the 2nd half is bullshit. You can't seriously expect to lay the blame at the feet of the defense when you give them only a 10 point lead at halftime and say, "It's your turn. Hold out for 30 minutes. 17 is all you get."

JohnnyHammersticks
12-18-2016, 04:52 PM
Kelce's lack of targets was dumb, but the fact that we don't get the ball in Hill's hands more often is even more baffling. That fake misdirection would work so much better if we ever actually gave Hill the ball. If you use him as a decoy EVERY SINGLE TIME, then eventually it loses its effectiveness. It seems like Andy Reid is the only person in the NFL who can stop him. If Andy can't tell how much better Hill is than Wilson or DAT, then he's just not a very smart man.

stevieray
12-18-2016, 04:54 PM
"It's your turn. Hold out for 30 minutes. 17 is all you get."


No one knew that.

the scenario was..

the offense had a chance to seal it. blew it.
the defense had a chance to seal it. blew it.


Ultimately though, Reids TO cost us the game. Missed kick. Game over.

OnTheWarpath15
12-18-2016, 04:56 PM
Thats good and all, but what about getting it done when it COUNTS?

I'm not absolving Smith of anything... but its not all about him today

An offense usually only gets 60-70 plays a game.

They ALL count.

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 04:58 PM
No one knew that.

the scenario was..

the offense had a chance to seal it. blew it.
the defense had a chance to seal it. blew it.


Ultimately though, Reids TO cost us the game. Missed kick. Game over.

Don't put the team in that position against an inferior opponent to lose by a poorly timed timeout.

New World Order
12-18-2016, 04:59 PM
Fuck you Tigercok

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 05:01 PM
Kelce's lack of targets was dumb, but the fact that we don't get the ball in Hill's hands more often is even more baffling. That fake misdirection would work so much better if we ever actually gave Hill the ball. If you use him as a decoy EVERY SINGLE TIME, then eventually it loses its effectiveness. It seems like Andy Reid is the only person in the NFL who can stop him. If Andy can't tell how much better Hill is than Wilson or DAT, then he's just not a very smart man.

Smith and Kelce had a good thing going so until we see the all-22, it would be safe to assume that Titans D adjusted and phased him out in the 2nd half

notorious
12-18-2016, 05:01 PM
The home fans need to do everyone a favor and treat the Chiefs like the opponents. Maybe they can fool the team into believing they're on the road and play well.

OnTheWarpath15
12-18-2016, 05:02 PM
Don't put the team in that position against an inferior opponent to lose by a poorly timed timeout.

Exactly. Every play counts, not just the last handful.

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 05:04 PM
Smith and Kelce had a good thing going so until we see the all-22, it would be safe to assume that Titans D adjusted and phased him out in the 2nd half

You're making an assumption?

Facts, not fiction.

notorious
12-18-2016, 05:04 PM
Wrong thread

Chiefs Pantalones
12-18-2016, 05:06 PM
Does it really matter? This team is fraudulent.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 05:11 PM
Does it really matter? This team is fraudulent.

Fair weather fan. Stop watching. Kthxbye

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 05:12 PM
Fair weather fan. Stop watching. Kthxbye

Fucking moron. Stop being alive. Kthxbye

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 05:13 PM
An offense usually only gets 60-70 plays a game.

They ALL count.

Smith had the killer RZ pick, 4-5 bad throws, barely hit 50% completions and no second half points... I GET IT

But dont be blinded by your disdain for him... this O line is finesse and cannot be counted on to get even 1 ****ing yard when we need it most, and its been that way all damn year

Call Smith out, but dont give everyone else a pass... the line sucks shit right now, they're too finesse

Demonpenz
12-18-2016, 05:13 PM
The only reason to maybe get mad is the Chiefs have a weapon in Hill that could me the biggest game changer I have ever seen in a chiefs uniform. They fail to use them. Also they need to capitalize if Tyreek isn't the same next year because of injuries or the tape is out on him or some shit. I feel like this is the year if they happen to catch lightning in a bottle.

kcpasco
12-18-2016, 05:15 PM
Fair weather fan. Stop watching. Kthxbye

Arent you a 9ers fan turned Chiefs because of Smith? And you call us fair weather. LOL

OnTheWarpath15
12-18-2016, 05:18 PM
Smith had the killer RZ pick, 4-5 bad throws, barely hit 50% completions and no second half points... I GET IT

But dont be blinded by your disdain for him... this O line is finesse and cannot be counted on to get even 1 ****ing yard when we need it most, and its been that way all damn year

Call Smith out, but dont give everyone else a pass... the line sucks shit right now, they're too finesse

Where exactly did I blame everything on Smith, and give everyone else a pass?

stevieray
12-18-2016, 05:23 PM
Don't put the team in that position against an inferior opponent to lose by a poorly timed timeout.

well sure, but there is no guarantee. you deal with each play/situation as it comes.

Easy 6
12-18-2016, 05:29 PM
I love how the running game is taking the heat.

They ran for roughly 160. Even if you take out Hill's run, they still averaged 4 per carry against the 3rd ranking rushing defense.

Not taking advantage of the 31st ranked passing defense was the issue.

An offense usually only gets 60-70 plays a game.

They ALL count.

Where exactly did I blame everything on Smith, and give everyone else a pass?

I would counter by asking... where exactly did you try to place blame anywhere else?

I'm not seeing it in any of the above posts, all I can really see is

Why is the run game taking so much heat?

We didnt take advantage of a poor secondary

Fairly distribute the blame is all I'm saying, dont just say "well, Smiff"... because that certainly doesnt tell the whole story

Pointer19
12-18-2016, 05:37 PM
I didn't watch the game because I'm travelling, but I can't believe this loss. I think it was 14-6 the last time I checked before getting a text about the FG that ended it.

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 05:38 PM
well sure, but there is no guarantee. you deal with each play/situation as it comes.

It's called error. You're going to face a series of coin flip decisions/situations in every football game. Sometimes you get lucky and a majority of them go your way, and that's just enough to win the game. Sometimes they don't.

The key to protecting against getting screwed over by those situations is to AVOID them in the first place.

This individual moments at the end of the game should not matter because there were so many chances to avoid being screwed over by them.

To do so otherwise is playing Captain Hindsight, and that's just stupid.

stevieray
12-18-2016, 05:43 PM
To do so otherwise is playing Captain Hindsight, and that's just stupid.

that's what you're doing though..each series is different. it's a myriad of mistakes throughout that collectively lost this game.

you think Tennesse thought they were going to get two kicks?

RealSNR
12-18-2016, 05:53 PM
that's what you're doing though..each series is different. it's a myriad of mistakes throughout that collectively lost this game.

you think Tennesse thought they were going to get two kicks?

You're saying, "You have to make the right call at the right time. We didn't, so we lost." (regarding the timeout before the field goal).

It's a coin flip situation. Why is that even a mistake? If Reid doesn't call timeout and Succop makes it, he's equally a goat. It's a total coinflip call.

stevieray
12-18-2016, 05:56 PM
You're saying, "You have to make the right call at the right time. We didn't, so we lost." (regarding the timeout before the field goal).

It's a coin flip situation. Why is that even a mistake? If Reid doesn't call timeout and Succop makes it, he's equally a goat. It's a total coinflip call.

ya, call the timeout before the snap.

Demonpenz
12-18-2016, 05:59 PM
I can't get behind kicking field goals. 3's don't beat 7's

CupidStunt
12-18-2016, 06:01 PM
Fair weather fan. Stop watching. Kthxbye

Fans that can't tolerate this shit are a heck of a lot more devoted than coksuckers like you, who would happily eat whatever shit the team feeds them.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 06:05 PM
Arent you a 9ers fan turned Chiefs because of Smith? And you call us fair weather. LOL

That your new theory? After the blackbob accusations this is the best you can come up with?

Chiefs Pantalones
12-18-2016, 06:53 PM
Fair weather fan. Stop watching. Kthxbye

Lol you're an idiot. This team isn't that good. It's obvious. Not sure what you're watching but this team is like the 95 and 2010 squads. Fluky. Frauds.

gonefishin53
12-18-2016, 07:06 PM
The only reason to maybe get mad is the Chiefs have a weapon in Hill that could me the biggest game changer I have ever seen in a chiefs uniform. They fail to use them. Also they need to capitalize if Tyreek isn't the same next year because of injuries or the tape is out on him or some shit. I feel like this is the year if they happen to catch lightning in a bottle.

During the halftime show, Bill Cowher said a head coach and offensive coordinator should game plan to get a playmaker like Hill a carry or target every possession. He said Hill should be getting 10-12 plays a game.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-18-2016, 09:03 PM
Get the ***K OUT pointing a finger at Hill



https://s27.postimg.org/xc3hkvy9v/Tyreek_Miss.png

Pass was in his fingers. If he lays out it's his. Appears he lost it in the sun cause we all know he's capable of tracking any ball and will fight for the rock.
Otherwise, the pass was perfectly placed where no defender had a chance at the ball.

notorious
12-18-2016, 09:04 PM
During the halftime show, Bill Cowher said a head coach and offensive coordinator should game plan to get a playmaker like Hill a carry or target every possession. He said Hill should be getting 10-12 plays a game.

Even Dungy understands.

KChiefs1
12-18-2016, 09:07 PM
And the retarded play calling

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That's what I'm tired of.




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KChiefs1
12-18-2016, 09:08 PM
If Ansy sticks to his conservative nature and kicks the FG instead of going for it we win.

But people will give Andy shit even tho he had the balls to go for it on 4th down. Half a yard for a TD. That's on the players.



The OL is pure shit.




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TEX
12-18-2016, 09:10 PM
Lol you're an idiot. This team isn't that good. It's obvious. Not sure what you're watching but this team is like the 95 and 2010 squads. Fluky. Frauds.

True to a point. Those teams were said to be frauds because they couldn't beat the good teams. This team can beat the "good" teams but can also turn around and lose to the not-so-good ones. In the end, I think you're right though but I don't think they're "frauds" because I think we know that they're too inconsistent to be counted on to do much. :shrug:

TEX
12-18-2016, 09:12 PM
The OL is pure shit.




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Yep. And to me, this is the biggest disappointment of the season. This was the group where the effort was made to improve and that we counted on to be vastly superior to last year's group. It's not. It might even be worse at run blocking.

notorious
12-18-2016, 09:12 PM
Yep. And to me, this is the biggest disappointment of the season. This was the group where the effort was made to improve and that we counted on to be vastly superior to last year's group. It's not. It might even be worse at run blocking.

It is worse at run blocking, and it's not close.

stevieray
12-18-2016, 09:13 PM
The OL is pure shit.




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Ehringer loss, and we haven't been the same.

Mr. Laz
12-18-2016, 09:28 PM
Ehringer loss, and we haven't been the same.

Fulton played well today.

try again

Hammock Parties
12-19-2016, 12:14 AM
This is the same offensive performance they've had the last several games. The only difference is that they didn't get return touchdowns to cover up for the offense's flaws.

The offense has scored:

13 against Carolina
17 against Tampa
21 against Denver (in five quarters)
13 against Atlanta
14 against the Raiders
17 today

When they don't get return TDs, they get exposed.

FUGGIN YAHTZEE FOO

Easy 6
12-19-2016, 01:02 AM
https://s27.postimg.org/xc3hkvy9v/Tyreek_Miss.png

Pass was in his fingers. If he lays out it's his. Appears he lost it in the sun cause we all know he's capable of tracking any ball and will fight for the rock.
Otherwise, the pass was perfectly placed where no defender had a chance at the ball.

Bunch of horseshit

You wanna talk about the multiple throws Smith sailed high and wide left/right?

**** that, dont point your finger at someone barely involved in the game plan

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-19-2016, 01:28 AM
Catchable TD pass. Thanks for playing.

Easy 6
12-19-2016, 01:36 AM
Catchable TD pass. Thanks for playing.

I reeeally wanna know who all was responsible for maxing out your rep bar, just as soon as you had that in your pocket you came on around here like the biggest ****ing douche I've ever seen

It really has been pathetic to witness

splatbass
12-19-2016, 02:35 AM
Reid's play calling 50%
Alex Smith 30%
DAT 20%

You aren't going to give any to the defense who couldn't stop the run all day long? There is plenty more blame to go around than you are giving.

splatbass
12-19-2016, 02:38 AM
I can't get behind kicking field goals. 3's don't beat 7's

We lost by 2.

splatbass
12-19-2016, 02:39 AM
Fulton played well today.

try again

Didn't they run to Fulton's side both goal line plays? And didn't we fail to get in both times?

Mecca
12-19-2016, 05:19 AM
As much as the line run blocking is an issue there's another issue..Spencer Ware is not a starting RB in the NFL. As nice of a player as he was last year he's just not. There's not enough wiggle or explosion there.

If you hand it to him twice you're probably looking at 3rd and 3 and he won't pick that up or you rely on Alex Smith and well yea...

His YPC looks alright cause he'll throw in some longer runs occasionally but his big play runs are like 8 yards, if this team is rolling with this QB they have to get a RB that can actually hit big plays or this offense is always going to stall out.

milkman
12-19-2016, 08:24 PM
The time out that Reid called that cost this team wasn't the one he called on the kick.
It was the one he called when the Titans 4th down and no timeouts, and they were confused.

Andy calls a time out, and the Titans were able to gather themselves and convert.

Hammock Parties
12-19-2016, 08:36 PM
The time out that Reid called that cost this team wasn't the one he called on the kick.
It was the one he called when the Titans 4th down and no timeouts, and they were confused.

Andy calls a time out, and the Titans were able to gather themselves and convert.

Andy Reid is bad in these close games sometimes.

The reason they are close is because of shitty offense.

ThaVirus
12-19-2016, 08:45 PM
The time out that Reid called that cost this team wasn't the one he called on the kick.

It was the one he called when the Titans 4th down and no timeouts, and they were confused.



Andy calls a time out, and the Titans were able to gather themselves and convert.


Shit, yeah. I had forgotten about that one.

They were both egregious, IMO.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-19-2016, 08:55 PM
I reeeally wanna know who all was responsible for maxing out your rep bar

At least 40 different posters. If you're questioning how it's possible, then maybe you are the problem? You don't have to be a homer but at least use an ounce of common sense when discussing Chiefs topics.

Beating a dead horse about dumping smith to promote an unproven guy, firing reid/sutton/dorsey are all low-intelligence rhetoric. If support therapy is what you seek then start a megathread and stay in it with nwo/pest/clay/kittycat/dag/tuck/kcchiefsus/.

The discussions here are a lot better than what that they were 18 months ago and even a few months ago.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-19-2016, 08:59 PM
As much as the line run blocking is an issue there's another issue..Spencer Ware is not a starting RB in the NFL. As nice of a player as he was last year he's just not. There's not enough wiggle or explosion there.

If you hand it to him twice you're probably looking at 3rd and 3 and he won't pick that up or you rely on Alex Smith and well yea...

His YPC looks alright cause he'll throw in some longer runs occasionally but his big play runs are like 8 yards, if this team is rolling with this QB they have to get a RB that can actually hit big plays or this offense is always going to stall out.

He's busted out some big play runs in the first half of the year: 25, 45, 46 yarders. 2015 he had a 20, 35, 52 yard run. The last 6 games have been terrible for his standards. Not sure if it's the wear and tear (including his concussion), the talent of the competition, or the scouting teams have done.

Easy 6
12-19-2016, 09:07 PM
At least 40 different posters. If you're questioning how it's possible, then maybe you are the problem? You don't have to be a homer but at least use an ounce of common sense when discussing Chiefs topics.

Beating a dead horse about dumping smith to promote an unproven guy, firing reid/sutton/dorsey are all low-intelligence rhetoric. If support therapy is what you seek then start a megathread and stay in it with nwo/pest/clay/kittycat/dag/tuck/kcchiefsus/.

The discussions here are a lot better than what that they were 18 months ago and even a few months ago.

You're lecturing me about using common sense?

You think you're responsible for some kind of renaissance in football discussion around here do ya? LMAO... go suck a dick

TigeRRUppeRRcut
12-19-2016, 09:11 PM
Yawn....