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go bo

01-08-2017, 01:22 PM

happy bye week, guys! :toast:

i have another interesting problem with my 06 toyota matrix...

this is apparently an intermittent problem, but when i turn the key i get nothing, like the key turns but the car seems to thinks it is not in park...

i tried shifting and tried park and neutral and nothing...

so i have it towed to the auto electric shop and the poor guy tries to get it to fail so he could be sure what needs to be fixed...

he never could get it to fail, so i go and pick it up...

we drive to dinner and back home (maybe 20 miles total) and everything's fine...

until the next day when we go out to start it, it not only won't start like before...

now i can't move the gear shift at all... :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

stumppy

01-08-2017, 01:31 PM

Is the ignition system getting power? Dash lights and stuff coming on. Or is it that the starter does not engage ?

go bo

01-08-2017, 01:42 PM

Is the ignition system getting power? Dash lights and stuff coming on. Or is it that the starter does not engage ?

everything is normal (lights, horn, door window buttons, dash lights) except that when you turn the key it acts like it's not in park, nothing changes, no noise, no dimming lights, nothing...

the auto electric guy couldn't get it to do that for a full day, but as soon as we parked it in our driveway, same thing again... :banghead:

lewdog

01-08-2017, 01:42 PM

I think we should have an auto/home sub forum. Get rid of something like the tickets sub forum.

stumppy

01-08-2017, 01:46 PM

everything is normal (lights, horn, door window buttons, dash lights) except that when you turn the key it acts like it's not in park, nothing changes, no noise, no dimming lights, nothing...

the auto electric guy couldn't get it to do that for a full day, but as soon as we parked it in our driveway, same thing again... :banghead:

I'm not that familiar with those Toyotas but I'd be looking at the starter relay in the power distribution center under the hood or at the starter itself.

Bugeater

01-08-2017, 01:50 PM

Only way to fix that is sink it in a river and report it stolen.

mikeyis4dcats.

01-08-2017, 01:53 PM

Years ago I had a similar issue with my accord. Turned out to be the alternator.

TribalElder

01-08-2017, 01:55 PM

Only way to fix that is sink it in a river and report it stolen.

Add in some aids booster to a full tank of fuel

ROYC75

01-08-2017, 02:54 PM

Years ago we had issues with the neutral safety switches but I have no idea if they still use them on newer cars.

go bo

01-08-2017, 02:55 PM

Only way to fix that is sink it in a river and report it stolen.

three weeks ago, i would have considered that, but i just bought a K$ catalytic converter (unique to toyotas)... :(

stumppy

01-08-2017, 03:00 PM

Have you tried antifreeze ?

hometeam

01-08-2017, 03:05 PM

Brake switch~

go bo

01-08-2017, 03:26 PM

Brake switch~

how would i test that?

since it won't let me shift the gears now, i've been thinking it might have something to do with a brake switch, but i know a lot more about social security disability claims than i do about cars...

go bo

01-08-2017, 03:26 PM

Have you tried antifreeze ?

yes, i drank a full glass :BLVD: and it didn't seem to help...

Inspector

01-08-2017, 03:30 PM

SAUTO

01-08-2017, 03:48 PM

Try neutral

hometeam

01-08-2017, 03:51 PM

how would i test that?

since it won't let me shift the gears now, i've been thinking it might have something to do with a brake switch, but i know a lot more about social security disability claims than i do about cars...

Have somsone stand behind car and see if your brake lights work~

Doesnt totally rule it out but mostly.

You can also just replace it for like 8 bucks and 5 minutes of time.

SAUTO

01-08-2017, 04:21 PM

So it doesn't start or you can't shift?

TrebMaxx

01-08-2017, 05:19 PM

Brake switch~

This.

SAUTO

01-08-2017, 05:22 PM

A brake light switch isn't stopping it from starting unless it's a push button start

lewdog

01-08-2017, 05:28 PM

We'd have an answer if there was a home/auto sub forum.

Mods?!?!

go bo

01-08-2017, 06:01 PM

Might try to move the gear shifter around a little and try again. Sometimes my truck will appear to be in park but I'll need to jiggle one way or the other to get it just right for the starter to work.

Good Luck.

tried that and also shifting it in and out of p, n, d,2 and 1...

but that was before, now it won't even let me move the damned shifter...

go bo

01-08-2017, 06:04 PM

So it doesn't start or you can't shift?

both, it started out just not starting/doing anything at all when i turned the key but i could move the gear thingy (it's on the floor)...

now it won't let me even move the gear shift... :banghead:

stumppy

01-08-2017, 06:05 PM

both, it started out just not starting/doing anything at all when i turned the key but i could move the gear thingy (it's on the floor)...

now it won't let me even move the gear shift... :banghead:

Ignition switch.

go bo

01-08-2017, 06:05 PM

A brake light switch isn't stopping it from starting unless it's a push button start

nope, not push button...

more like push car...

no start no go... :(

go bo

01-08-2017, 06:07 PM

Ignition switch.

well, that's got to be a possibility too, i guess...

the auto electric guy said he checked everything but couldn't find what exactly was wrong because it wouldn't act up for him despite trying off and on for most of a day...

SAUTO

01-08-2017, 06:08 PM

Ignition switch.

Yep.

Inspector

01-08-2017, 08:40 PM

nope, not push button...

more like push car...

no start no go... :(

I guess it's go bo no go.

Sorry.

Fairplay

01-08-2017, 08:54 PM

I think we should have an auto/home sub forum. Get rid of something like the tickets sub forum.

I agree and good idea go bo

Fairplay

01-08-2017, 08:56 PM

lewdog

01-08-2017, 08:59 PM

Plus if any of these auto mechanics are in the Kansas City metro area I would rather give them my business as I feel they would be honest and give me a reasonable bill versus taking it to just any auto mechanic and you don't know if you're getting the big shaft or not.

I hated all mechanics until I met Sauto on here.

I'm thinking of flying him in for all the work my car needs.

He's that good.

GloryDayz

01-08-2017, 09:19 PM

we need an auto repair advice sub-forum!

Or I suppose you could just PM JASONSAUTO - he's kinda awesome at such things...

Fairplay

01-08-2017, 09:22 PM

I hated all mechanics until I met Sauto on here.

I'm thinking of flying him in for all the work my car needs.

He's that good.

He's as good as you're ever going to get as far as I'm concerned.

Fairplay

01-08-2017, 09:24 PM

well, that's got to be a possibility too, i guess...

the auto electric guy said he checked everything but couldn't find what exactly was wrong because it wouldn't act up for him despite trying off and on for most of a day...

Taking it to Jason first would've saved you a lot of dough.

go bo

01-08-2017, 11:21 PM

I guess it's go bo no go.

Sorry.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

go bo

01-08-2017, 11:23 PM

Yep.

would the ignition switch cause the gear shifter to be stuck in park (i can't move it all now)?

SAUTO

01-08-2017, 11:25 PM

would the ignition switch cause the gear shifter to be stuck in park (i can't move it all now)?

Yes. But it could be other things too. Now that it's not starting at all it should be fairly easy to find

go bo

01-08-2017, 11:26 PM

Taking it to Jason first would've saved you a lot of dough.

well, if i'm not mistaken sauto is located down by the lake somewhere which would be one long tow job...

thing won't start, won't even let me move the gear shift now...

go bo

01-08-2017, 11:29 PM

Yes. But it could be other things too. Now that it's not starting at all it should be fairly easy to find

that's what i thought when i had it towed to the auto electric guy i had been referred to...

but the tow truck driver started it up when he got to the garage and drove it up to the guy's door...

then the poor guy couldn't get it to fail so he couldn't diagnose it... :shrug:

of course, as soon as it hits our driveway, it goes on the fritz again... :grr:

Fairplay

01-08-2017, 11:35 PM

that's what i thought when i had it towed to the auto electric guy i had been referred to...

but the tow truck driver started it up when he got to the garage and drove it up to the guy's door...

then the poor guy couldn't get it to fail so he couldn't diagnose it... :shrug:

of course, as soon as it hits our driveway, it goes on the fritz again... :grr:

I've heard those stories before it sucks doesn't it and those guys are getting paid to diagnose a ghost problem, it sucks. Electrical problems always suck.

go bo

01-08-2017, 11:43 PM

yeah, my first electrical problem didn't suck, and that led to my first divorce...

then my second electrical problem shorted out all the time which led to my second divorce...

now my third electrical problem er, marriage, has been pretty good in the suck department so instead of a divorce i'll be celebrating 38 years of wedded bliss next june... :)

bigjosh

01-08-2017, 11:49 PM

Does the car have an alarm. Active alarms disable starting and shifting sometimes.

Also, does the key have a chip in it? If the key has a chip and the transponder doesn't read it wont start.

A brake switch wouldnt stop a car from starting, but a neutral safety switch would.

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LiveSteam

01-09-2017, 12:49 AM

Computer won't toss a code? My Toyota had the opposite problem. Starter would crank the engine over when cold starting. Once the engine would get up to temperature the starter would not crank the engine. Bought a new starter. Ten minute job.

Monty

11-01-2017, 05:09 AM

displacedinMN

11-01-2017, 06:46 AM

Automobiles have a mind of their own and do this shit on purpose

Buehler445

11-01-2017, 07:23 AM

I've done a quick search, so I'm assuming that the auto repair sub forum didn't happen, but I'm looking for some assistance for my Command Center in getting the timing adjusted and improve the performance on my 1974 Olds 455. I had this vehicle in storage for almost 5 years, but was able to get it running again by replacing the starter, ignition coils, distributor and wiring, and ignition wiring. My issue now is how it runs. I can get it to/from the stadium ok, but noticed that I have no real power going uphill and think that the timing could be the culprit. I still have points on this vehicle, so going with HEI would be the next step? I'd love to find someone local that could assist.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMOBsfwVAAAc5eq.jpg

I’ve never messed with a 455. But on most of the chevys you can adjust timing by turning the distributor. Gotta keep yourself out of the fan belt, but it’s not that hard to change. I’m sure there is a technical way to do it but that’s the farmer way.

I’d guess it is more likely that it is a carburetor problem. I am absolutely NOT a carbeurator guy. Fuel injection for the WIN. But if it’s idling smooth my guess (remember - not a carbeurator guy) you have a vacuum leak and the secondaries won’t open.

You can pretty easily do a visual inspection of vacuum hoses but if you’re going to try and test them you probably need help.

It could also be some gunk in the carbeurator affecting flow. If that’s the problem you can buy some fuel system cleaner. If that doesn’t work then you have to take it apart and clean it. That’s a little tougher.

Monty

11-01-2017, 10:06 AM

Yep, vacuum issues are next and I need some help with that from someone I can trust. The idle is good, it’s when I give it some gas that I have issues. Kinda kills the whole glass packs effect when revving the engine.

cooper barrett

11-01-2017, 10:29 AM

Lets start with what you have done I see it had sat for a while and after a battery it would not crank?Then you put in a starter and it would crank? Did it start after that? If so how did it run?

I need answers before i can help you further.

I used to sell and teach classes for a major engine diagnostic equipment company. We can fix this.

I've done a quick search, so I'm assuming that the auto repair sub forum didn't happen, but I'm looking for some assistance for my Command Center in getting the timing adjusted and improve the performance on my 1974 Olds 455. I had this vehicle in storage for almost 5 years, but was able to get it running again by replacing the starter, ignition coils, distributor and wiring, and ignition wiring. My issue now is how it runs. I can get it to/from the stadium ok, but noticed that I have no real power going uphill and think that the timing could be the culprit. I still have points on this vehicle, so going with HEI would be the next step? I'd love to find someone local that could assist.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMOBsfwVAAAc5eq.jpg

Monty

11-01-2017, 10:34 AM

Automobiles have a mind of their own and do this shit on purpose

I missed this the first time, but you said a mouthful! ROFL

Monty

11-01-2017, 10:42 AM

Lets start with what you have done I see it had sat for a while and after a battery it would not crank?Then you put in a starter and it would crank? Did it start after that? If so how did it run?

I need answers before i can help you further.

I used to sell and teach classes for a major engine diagnostic equipment company. We can fix this.

Thanks! Yes, it sat for almost 5 years. The pic you see is of the vehicle at a game this year, so it's running. I can get from point A to B, but it feels like it
"sticks" a bit when I rev it up. It's not smooth at that point even though it idles quite nicely. I have a dwell tachometer and have checked that and it appears to be fine. Also, periodically, when I am going uphill, I don't have any real power. I realized doing this via the interwebz is hit and miss, but I have it in Independence and would really like someone who knows about these vehicles to take a look. I really think it's timing/vacuum issues.

cooper barrett

11-01-2017, 11:15 AM

Look answer my questions!!

On top of what I asked before what do you mean,Dwell tack looks fine?
does the dwell tack have a nice color, shape, or gauge,
Speak car not gobbly gook

Thanks! Yes, it sat for almost 5 years. The pic you see is of the vehicle at a game this year, so it's running. I can get from point A to B, but it feels like it
"sticks" a bit when I rev it up. It's not smooth at that point even though it idles quite nicely. I have a dwell tachometer and have checked that and it appears to be fine. Also, periodically, when I am going uphill, I don't have any real power. I realized doing this via the interwebz is hit and miss, but I have it in Independence and would really like someone who knows about these vehicles to take a look. I really think it's timing/vacuum issues.

Monty

11-01-2017, 03:24 PM

Look answer my questions!!

On top of what I asked before what do you mean,Dwell tack looks fine?
does the dwell tack have a nice color, shape, or gauge,
Speak car not gobbly gook

Sorry, I’m not a mechanic, but the dwell reading is supposed to .028-.032 Per my guide and that is at .031 Per the last reading.

shitgoose

11-01-2017, 03:30 PM

Just my .02 but after sitting five years it probably wouldn't hurt to go through the carburetor and replace the fuel filter.

Monty

11-01-2017, 03:42 PM

Just my .02 but after sitting five years it probably wouldn't hurt to go through the carburetor and replace the fuel filter.

Already did that. All filters are new.

cooper barrett

11-01-2017, 04:26 PM

Sorry, I’m not a mechanic, but the dwell reading is supposed to .028-.032 Per my guide and that is at .031 Per the last reading.

this is a points ign not hei? where is the coil?

cooper barrett

11-01-2017, 04:27 PM

Just my .02 but after sitting five years it probably wouldn't hurt to go through the carburetor and replace the fuel filter.

keep the 2 cents....It would have stopped and never moved if it was clogged they used stone filters those days.

stumppy

11-01-2017, 04:54 PM

cooper barrett

11-01-2017, 05:20 PM

I'd suggest checking/replacing the points and condensor. Check the spark plugs and make sure the new plug wires are going where they're suppose to. If what you're getting is an engine miss under a load that's where I'd look. Also, after sitting for 5 years I'd look at all the vacumn hoses. EGR valve working?

**** it idles smooth... The ****ing wire routing is not.... :cuss::cuss::cuss:if it were an EGR valve it should do what? not do? What does an EGR valve actually do? I don't think you know....,you're Googling the****out of it, right now, aren't you.

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stumppy

11-01-2017, 05:29 PM

**** it idles smooth... The ****ing wire routing is not.... :cuss::cuss::cuss:if it were an EGR valve it should do what? not do? What does an EGR valve actually do? I don't think you know....,you're Googling the****out of it, right now, aren't you.

...

Oh that's right, you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. If you don't think a GM V8 can't idle just fine yet miss under a load you should just STFU right there.
Go find someone else to argue with about....well....all the shit you think you're an expert on.

cooper barrett

11-01-2017, 06:44 PM

I'd suggest checking/replacing the points and condensor. Check the spark plugs and make sure the new plug wires are going where they're suppose to. If what you're getting is an engine miss under a load that's where I'd look. Also, after sitting for 5 years I'd look at all the vacumn hoses. EGR valve working?

hey Stumppy catch...LOL https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OAwJi42CL._SX355_.jpg

stumppy

11-01-2017, 06:47 PM

hey Stumppy catch...LOL https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OAwJi42CL._SX355_.jpg

Haven't fell for that since I was about 14 years old.

SAUTO

11-01-2017, 06:48 PM

cooper barrett

11-01-2017, 06:51 PM

Oh that's right, you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. If you don't think a GM V8 can't idle just fine yet miss under a load you should just STFU right there.
Go find someone else to argue with about....well....all the shit you think you're an expert on.

Hey MrGoodass (wrench with a "H" addiction) How can a V-8 engine with the wires mis-routed spark plug wires run smooth at an idle but miss under a load? This should get interesting, get yourself some serious carbs for dinner, you'll need them.

SAUTO

11-01-2017, 06:53 PM

keep the 2 cents....It would have stopped and never moved if it was clogged they used stone filters those days.

This isn't totally true. A partially clogged filter, even a stone (brass) filter, will sometimes let the bowl run out of fuel on a longer pull than normal (like a hill, moving that big thing).

And an egr valve stuck open can also definitely cause a very lean condition, which would also cause power issues.

stumppy

11-01-2017, 06:58 PM

Hey MrGoodass (wrench with a "H" addiction) How can a V-8 engine with the wires mis-routed spark plug wires run smooth at an idle but miss under a load? This should get interesting, get yourself some serious carbs for dinner, you'll need them.

Go try and turn some other thread into a pissing match. The man asked for ideas on what the problem is with his vehicle and I'm trying to help. I really don't give a shit about your 'stayed at a Holiday Inn last night' knowledge.
Personally, my money is on whatever Sauto says.

Buehler445

11-01-2017, 07:41 PM

Did 75s run Points? Fuck points. If it has points check those. As those wear they can affect timing.

On my irrigation engines I was able to get an electronic ignition aftermarket. I’d imagine something similar is available for the bigger motors.

GloryDayz

11-01-2017, 09:52 PM

hey Stumppy catch...LOL https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OAwJi42CL._SX355_.jpg

LMAO :clap::clap:

GloryDayz

11-02-2017, 05:54 AM

I say load the thing up with a bottle and see if it helps. It'll either fix your problem or give you the prefect excuse to buy a new engine!

cooper barrett

11-02-2017, 06:27 AM

Let the little man who's named after his little cock fix it for you. When Andy is dead and Alex11 is having his number hung on the ring of fame your ****ing truck will still have a vacuum advance that in not doing it's job...

cooper barrett

11-02-2017, 06:37 AM

Did 75s run Points? **** points. If it has points check those. As those wear they can affect timing.

On my irrigation engines I was able to get an electronic ignition aftermarket. I’d imagine something similar is available for the bigger motors.

Most did but it's in a breadmobile so maybe not... if the guy put a new distributor, coil and, wires in he should know....

cooper barrett

11-02-2017, 06:41 AM

I say load the thing up with a bottle and see if it helps. It'll either fix your problem or give you the prefect excuse to buy a new engine!
with a rag sticking out of it???

Monty

11-02-2017, 06:49 AM

Did 75s run Points? **** points. If it has points check those. As those wear they can affect timing.

On my irrigation engines I was able to get an electronic ignition aftermarket. I’d imagine something similar is available for the bigger motors.

I think this is the direction I need to go first. I've played with the points ad nauseum and considering that I have a few more issues starting and running during the later parts of the season due to colder weather, this will help eliminate those problems and allow me to identify any other areas not previously addressed.

Monty

11-02-2017, 06:51 AM

I say load the thing up with a bottle and see if it helps. It'll either fix your problem or give you the prefect excuse to buy a new engine!

Geez, GD, you have extra $$ for a new engine? I don't!!

Monty

11-02-2017, 06:55 AM

Most did but it's in a breadmobile so maybe not... if the guy put a new distributor, coil and, wires in he should know....

That's just it. I've replaced everything BUT the points and considering that lack of experience I have with older motors, I'm just looking for some assistance because there's no doubt that I'm missing something simple that's keeping this engine from performing like it did back in 2009-10.

For me, the win is that it's starting and running consistently again, but I'd like to get about 10 more years of tailgating out of this vehicle before I'm done with it.

cooper barrett

11-02-2017, 06:55 AM

monty monty monty

what is base timing? what timing at 2500 rpm?

Do I need to explain timing to you?

Monty

11-02-2017, 07:01 AM

Also, it's hardly a Breadmobile. Only 3000 of these Cortez vehicles were ever made and are the same vehicles that transported the Apollo astronauts to the launch pad. Less than 100 are road worthy at this point.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Apollo_10_crew_walk_to_transfer_van_%28S69-35315%29.jpg

Monty

11-02-2017, 07:07 AM

monty monty monty

what is base timing? what timing at 2500 rpm?

Do I need to explain timing to you?

Apparently you do. Again, I'm not a mechanic by trade and either need to be educated or find someone that can help. A quick google search says that I need to have it at 12', but I have no idea wtf that means tbh.

cooper barrett

11-02-2017, 07:16 AM

ROTHFLMFAO..... isn't there a repair shop near where you live?... take it to them....

or let a dog (Stumppy) do a Weinstein on the tires and see if that helps

Monty

11-02-2017, 07:20 AM

ROTHFLMFAO..... isn't there a repair shop near where you live?... take it to them....

or let a dog (Stumppy) do a Weinstein on the tires and see if that helps

Yes, of course. I have yet to take it to a repair shop, but looks like I have no choice at this point. ROFL

cooper barrett

11-02-2017, 07:34 AM

Yes, of course. I have yet to take it to a repair shop, but looks like I have no choice at this point. ROFL

You can let Stumppy work on it but the shop will charge you double if he does:D:D:D:D:

Dartgod

11-02-2017, 07:56 AM

ROTHFLMFAO..... isn't there a repair shop near where you live?... take it to them....

or let a dog (Stumppy) do a Weinstein on the tires and see if that helps

You really aren't being helpful to Monty here. I think your sole intent is to be disruptive and troll this thread.

You will be banned from it momentarily unless Monty feels he is getting valuable info from you, which I doubt is the case.

Monty, it's your call. Do you want me to let this guy hang around?

Buehler445

11-02-2017, 09:38 AM

I think this is the direction I need to go first. I've played with the points ad nauseum and considering that I have a few more issues starting and running during the later parts of the season due to colder weather, this will help eliminate those problems and allow me to identify any other areas not previously addressed.

The one I bought took a little wiring work to get in and depends on where the distributor is located how easy it is to install, but if you're going to roll into a mechanic shop to look at vacuum, I'd have them do it. If it isn't a vacuum leak, it might be a compression problem which isn't fun.

One thing I'd do before you take it in is pull the plugs and make sure none of them are fouled.

Good luck!

GloryDayz

11-02-2017, 10:03 AM

with a rag sticking out of it???

If by rag you mean valve, sure.. :D

http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1E1RSIVXXXXaeXVXXq6xXFXXXc/Auto-Parts-Model-NOS-Mini-Nitrous-Oxide-Bottle-Keychain-Keyring-Spool-Drift-JDM-TDI-VAG-Novelty.jpg

GloryDayz

11-02-2017, 10:04 AM

Geez, GD, you have extra $$ for a new engine? I don't!!

OK, then just a little bottle...

http://image.dhgate.com/0x0/f2/albu/g3/M00/68/FD/rBVaHVSmHKiATOwNAAEWHmYa7fM528.jpg

Monty

11-02-2017, 02:16 PM

You really aren't being helpful to Monty here. I think your sole intent is to be disruptive and troll this thread.

You will be banned from it momentarily unless Monty feels he is getting valuable info from you, which I doubt is the case.

Monty, it's your call. Do you want me to let this guy hang around?

Hey there, I was looking for some real help and have yet to get some, but I set my expectations pretty low in the first place, so no worries. It is what it is, but I appreciate you looking out for me. :)

Monty

11-02-2017, 02:19 PM

The one I bought took a little wiring work to get in and depends on where the distributor is located how easy it is to install, but if you're going to roll into a mechanic shop to look at vacuum, I'd have them do it. If it isn't a vacuum leak, it might be a compression problem which isn't fun.

One thing I'd do before you take it in is pull the plugs and make sure none of them are fouled.

Good luck!

I agree with your line of thinking and all of the plugs are good. I actually tested them individually when I was trouble shooting the starter a few weeks ago. I've done some googling on the HEI and think it would be a good idea to have someone else do it. I've never had it in the shop yet to save $$, but need to bite the bullet at some point.

Monty

11-02-2017, 02:20 PM

OK, then just a little bottle...

http://image.dhgate.com/0x0/f2/albu/g3/M00/68/FD/rBVaHVSmHKiATOwNAAEWHmYa7fM528.jpg

Yeah, so that begs the question: do I use it in or outside the parking lot? ROFL

GloryDayz

11-02-2017, 03:34 PM

Yeah, so that begs the question: do I use it in or outside the parking lot? ROFL

Up hills... You'd be like:

https://media.tenor.co/images/ce8c4395623c9ee31d331d9ffd2922d1/raw

SAUTO

11-02-2017, 04:23 PM

Hey there, I was looking for some real help and have yet to get some, but I set my expectations pretty low in the first place, so no worries. It is what it is, but I appreciate you looking out for me. :)

Sorry, i wasn't really down for a pissing match with a guy who loves Google (not stummpy)...

Monty

11-02-2017, 05:39 PM

Sorry, i wasn't really down for a pissing match with a guy who loves Google (not stummpy)...

Sure, no worries.

Dinny Bossa Nova

11-02-2017, 05:56 PM

Sure, no worries.

At this point, Monty, I say these steps are the next you should take:

1. Get all tasted up for the best-good Rueben sammich you ever had.

2. Road trip to SAUTOville.

3. Enjoy best-good Rueben sammich you ever had while taking in the SAUTO magic show.

4. Have many miles of worry free best-good motoring.

Do the right thing by your faithful ride. Take it to SAUTO, I always say.

And I always say that, too.

Dinny