Chiefs open as 1 point dogs

[Nzoner]

It's now at Chiefs -1 the over/under 46.5


http://www.scoresandodds.com/grid_20170115.html

[Snica]

ouch

[HemiEd]

It's now at Chiefs -1 the over/under 46.5


http://www.scoresandodds.com/grid_20170115.html

Chiefs -1 would be favorites. :D OK, now I see, it opened at Chiefs +2.5

[TEX]

It's now at Chiefs -1 the over/under 46.5


http://www.scoresandodds.com/grid_20170115.html

If it's Chiefs -1, it means they're favored by 1... I looked and you wrote it worng. The line is Pitt -1.

[New World Order]

Offshore book have KC favored.

[Prison Bitch]

Lol

[scho63]

Ben's ankle pushed money to KC

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'll be curious to see how the line moves over the course of the week.

[Deberg_1990]

Tough game to predict. I wouldn't lay money on it. Has a chance to be a close classic with a last second outcome.

[Pointer19]

Ben's ankle pushed money to KC

I didn't catch the game.. Is Rapey going to be out?

[Snica]

I didn't catch the game.. Is Rapey going to be out?

no. Its all a ruse.

[mdchiefsfan]

I didn't catch the game.. Is Rapey going to be out?

Nah, he'll play. Many think he's faking or exaggerating the issue.

[Fairplay]

Tough game to predict. I wouldn't lay money on it. Has a chance to be a close classic with a last second outcome.

No I wouldn't bet money on it at all. Chiefs are unpredictable, pre game analyst are always saying statements like " It depends which Alex shows up today" before a game.

[scho63]

I didn't catch the game.. Is Rapey going to be out?

His ankle got rolled over and is probably swollen and they stuck him in a boot for precaution.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1rtLqtWIAEOTlQ.jpg

[Nzoner]

If it's Chiefs -1, it means they're favored by 1... I looked and you wrote it worng. The line is Pitt -1.

No,it opened at Pitt -1 on Scores and Odds it's now moved to KC -1

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Grade 1 sprain at the least for Ben. Balance even altered in the slightest for a QB can create a whole world of difference

[notorious]

It moved 3.5 points in hours.

If only one were near a book, he could have both sides covered with a large window to hit both.

:eek:

[TEX]

No,it opened at Pitt -1 on Scores and Odds it's now moved to KC -1

Gotcha. I misunderstood.

[Nzoner]

I'll be curious to see how the line moves over the course of the week.

I just hope to hell it doesn't do anything crazy like it did in the last playoff game against Indy.I don't care what anyone thinks that shit was shady.

[Nzoner]

It moved 3.5 points in hours.

If only one were near a book, he could have both sides covered with a large window to hit both.

:eek:

Where did you get that info?

[Mr. Laz]

we'll be -6 in a couple of days.

[notorious]

Where did you get that info?

Just going by what a yahoo said in another thread. He said that the line opened at Chiefs +2.5.


I checked a few sites and the best I saw was +1.5. It was the Westgate in Vegas.

I wouldn't be surprise to see it move more toward KC during the week.

[Great Expectations]

I just hope to hell it doesn't do anything crazy like it did in the last playoff game against Indy.I don't care what anyone thinks that shit was shady.

What happened?

[Rasputin]

His ankle got rolled over and is probably swollen and they stuck him in a boot for precaution.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1rtLqtWIAEOTlQ.jpg

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[CaliforniaChief]

Maybe Bradshaw was right about Tomlin. Having him drop back and throw a pass at that point in the game made no sense whatsoever. He got hit, rolled his ankle, was testing out his shoulder, and THEN threw an interception.

Mind boggling, honestly.

[Nzoner]

What happened?

It opened at Indy -1 and stayed there all week then Saturday about 4 hours prior to kickoff went to a pick 'em and then KC -1 then -2 then -3 and settled at -2.

I was at a party and my friends were celebrating the halftime score and wanted to know why I wasn't,I told them if Indy comes back and wins this by 1 don't ever try and convince me that someone didn't know something.****ing concussion protocol my ass.

[Great Expectations]

It opened at Indy -1 and stayed there all week then Saturday about 4 hours prior to kickoff went to a pick 'em and then KC -1 then -2 then -3 and settled at -2.

I was at a party and my friends were celebrating the halftime score and wanted to know why I wasn't,I told them if Indy comes back and wins this by 1 don't ever try and convince me that someone didn't know something.****ing concussion protocol my ass.

Please help me understand, I'm missing something here. I'd get the concern if the line movement was reversed.

[scho63]

It's now at Chiefs -1 the over/under 46.5


http://www.scoresandodds.com/grid_20170115.html

They are NOT underdogs, they are the favorites.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

[notorious]

A HUGE amount of money went to KC, then back to Indy in a matter of hours.

That's what Nzoner is talking about.

[Great Expectations]

A HUGE amount of money went to KC, then back to Indy in a matter of hours.

That's what Nzoner is talking about.

If a huge amount of money went late to KC why does that indicate a fix to Indy?

[Nzoner]

Please help me understand, I'm missing something here. I'd get the concern if the line movement was reversed.

I'm saying someone made a shitload of cash and losing three players to the concussion protocol was shady as hell.

It's just my .02 but whenever I see line movement to that degree on gameday whichever way it's going I don't like it.

[Nzoner]

They are NOT underdogs, they are the favorites.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

One last time,they opened as DOGS

On your site it opened as a pick 'em

[Chiefaholic]

Ben will play and the officials will let Pitt's O-Line hold like a mother f'er all game to keep the franchise QB upright. TV ratings want a Big Ben vs. Tom Brady to advertise all week. If we're going to win, we have to make multiple big plays and hope the flags don't fly for mysterious holding calls when we do.

I'm 45 and NEVER seen my Chiefs in the Superbowl. My dad has stage 4 cancer and his time on this Earth isn't guaranteed next season. We're overdue as fans, and time is running out to celebrate a win with my dad. If there's ever a time for this squad to overachieve, THIS is the time.

[Nzoner]

Ben will play and the officials will let Pitt's O-Line hold like a mother f'er all game to keep the franchise QB upright. TV ratings want a Big Ben vs. Tom Brady to advertise all week. If we're going to win, we have to make multiple big plays and hope the flags don't fly for mysterious holding calls when we do.

I'm 45 and NEVER seen my Chiefs in the Superbowl. My dad has stage 4 cancer and his time on this Earth isn't guaranteed next season. We're overdue as fans, and time is running out to celebrate a win with my dad. If there's ever a time for this squad to overachieve, THIS is the time.

Sorry about your dad hopefully you can celebrate a championship with him.

[scho63]

One last time,they opened as DOGS

On your site it opened as a pick 'em

Not trying to be difficult but your own OP says Chiefs -1 , which is a FAVORITE.

All the other sports books have them like your post as FAVs

[KS Smitty]

Bet the Chiefs, bankrupt the bookies.

[splatbass]

Please help me understand, I'm missing something here. I'd get the concern if the line movement was reversed.

What you are missing is that Nzoner is one of the nuts that think the NFL is rigged.

[Shawny2X4]

Ben will play and the officials will let Pitt's O-Line hold like a mother f'er all game to keep the franchise QB upright. TV ratings want a Big Ben vs. Tom Brady to advertise all week. If we're going to win, we have to make multiple big plays and hope the flags don't fly for mysterious holding calls when we do.

I'm 45 and NEVER seen my Chiefs in the Superbowl. My dad has stage 4 cancer and his time on this Earth isn't guaranteed next season. We're overdue as fans, and time is running out to celebrate a win with my dad. If there's ever a time for this squad to overachieve, THIS is the time.

Sorry about your dad. We are all pulling for him and the Chiefs.

[NWTF]

Even Chiefs -1 isnt really being favored for a home game. Chiefs get 3 points just for being at home.

[Nickhead]

am i missing something here, don't we want the chiefs to be underdogs on their home turf?

i want pittsburg at full strength, and as the favorites. it's the only way to gain recognition. same with new england (minus gronk, can't avoid that).

why does everyone hope for an injury to a key component of the opponent.

kc will beat pitt by a minimum of 4 points.

you heard it here first :D

[Coochie liquor]

I'm sure odds makers know about our playoff record...

[TEX]

am i missing something here, don't we want the chiefs to be underdogs on their home turf?

i want pittsburg at full strength, and as the favorites. it's the only way to gain recognition. same with new england (minus gronk, can't avoid that).

why does everyone hope for an injury to a key component of the opponent.

kc will beat pitt by a minimum of 4 points.

you heard it here first :D



I feel the same way. To be the best, you must beat the best. If the Chiefs are good enough, they'll win, and imagine the confidence they'll gain. Just BRING IT!

[HemiEd]

It opened at Indy -1 and stayed there all week then Saturday about 4 hours prior to kickoff went to a pick 'em and then KC -1 then -2 then -3 and settled at -2.

I was at a party and my friends were celebrating the halftime score and wanted to know why I wasn't,I told them if Indy comes back and wins this by 1 don't ever try and convince me that someone didn't know something.****ing concussion protocol my ass.
:cuss:

[Nzoner]

Not trying to be difficult but your own OP says Chiefs -1 , which is a FAVORITE.

All the other sports books have them like your post as FAVs

If you click my link and your link look for where it says OPEN,that's what the line opened at,then to the right will be the changes or current.

[Nzoner]

What you are missing is that Nzoner is one of the nuts that think the NFL is rigged.

Your brush is very broad.

[HemiEd]

Not trying to be difficult but your own OP says Chiefs -1 , which is a FAVORITE.

All the other sports books have them like your post as FAVs

Geezus, do you not get it? He updated it!

[JD10367]

KC has a better record, is playing at home, has a great home field advantage, and doesn't have an injured QB... and they're underdogs? Given a FG for home field, I'd say Arrowhead is worth an extra point. So if you think the teams are even, it should still be KC -4. I think KC is better so it should be -5 or -6, because KC will win between a FG and TD.

[scho63]

Geezus, do you not get it? He updated it!

Thank you for calling me Geezus but when I look at his OP, I see NO system edit update at the bottom of his post that indicates it was ever edited.

So in the famous words of Steve Martin, "WELL EXCUUUUUUSSSE ME!" :harumph:

[KCCHIEFS27]

KC has a better record, is playing at home, has a great home field advantage, and doesn't have an injured QB... and they're underdogs? Given a FG for home field, I'd say Arrowhead is worth an extra point. So if you think the teams are even, it should still be KC -4. I think KC is better so it should be -5 or -6, because KC will win between a FG and TD.

Then you need to go ahead and put down a lot of money on the Chiefs.

[splatbass]

I'm sure odds makers know about our playoff record...

The odds makers will base it on how much money is bet on each side. To keep it as even as possible they will move the line if there is too much money bet on one side to encourage people to bet the other way. Past playoff records don't play into it.

[chinaski]

I'm gonna point something out regarding Ben Roesthlisberger's ankle injury, because there was speculation in the other threads that it was a sham because he was seen walking and running on it after the game...

I've sprained my ankle (mildly) a few times, and immediately after the injury it's generally not too bad. You can walk on it etc. It's until several hours AFTER the injury where things start to get bad. Last time I did it, I was able to walk without much trouble, but the next day, HOLY SHIT. I was hobbled up and could barely stand on it.

Just Sayin...

[TribalElder]

Hoping for more than a first round well bye....

Advance please

[YayMike]

I'm gonna point something out regarding Ben Roesthlisberger's ankle injury, because there was speculation in the other threads that it was a sham because he was seen walking and running on it after the game...

I've sprained my ankle (mildly) a few times, and immediately after the injury it's generally not too bad. You can walk on it etc. It's until several hours AFTER the injury where things start to get bad. Last time I did it, I was able to walk without much trouble, but the next day, HOLY SHIT. I was hobbled up and could barely stand on it.

Just Sayin...

This. I had a grade one sprain after a soccer game, and this describes it perfectly.

That being said, he'll play and that asshole normally plays better hobbled anyway. It will be interesting to hear how he is doing on Thursday after the initial swelling goes down....

[chinaski]

This. I had a grade one sprain after a soccer game, and this describes it perfectly.

That being said, he'll play and that asshole normally plays better hobbled anyway. It will be interesting to hear how he is doing on Thursday after the initial swelling goes down....

Yup, it's also a lot easier to re-tweek even after the swelling has gone away and things are feeling better. Slightest off movement and BOOM, you get that twinge and you are screwed up again. :)

[kcchiefsus]

Ben will play and the officials will let Pitt's O-Line hold like a mother f'er all game to keep the franchise QB upright. TV ratings want a Big Ben vs. Tom Brady to advertise all week. If we're going to win, we have to make multiple big plays and hope the flags don't fly for mysterious holding calls when we do.

I'm 45 and NEVER seen my Chiefs in the Superbowl. My dad has stage 4 cancer and his time on this Earth isn't guaranteed next season. We're overdue as fans, and time is running out to celebrate a win with my dad. If there's ever a time for this squad to overachieve, THIS is the time.

Maybe if the cunts who run the Chiefs would ever actually draft a QB and take a chance on finding a superstar we might finally find a guy who gets preferential treatment. Instead we're stuck with a piece of shit like Smith who nobody around the league cares about.

[YayMike]

Yup, it's also a lot easier to re-tweek even after the swelling has gone away and things are feeling better. Slightest off movement and BOOM, you get that twinge and you are screwed up again. :)

exactly. and add to that the field at arrowhead will be frozen, which won't help.

Now, that being said, forget him - contain Bell and force Ben to have to throw. I think blitzing him will cause us to get burnt. I think we can get a good enough pass rush with 4 even 5 on obvious passing situations. Just CONTAIN BELL for the love of God.

[chinaski]

exactly. and add to that the field at arrowhead will be frozen, which won't help.

Now, that being said, forget him - contain Bell and force Ben to have to throw. I think blitzing him will cause us to get burnt. I think we can get a good enough pass rush with 4 even 5 on obvious passing situations. Just CONTAIN BELL for the love of God.

Yeah. If we can shut down Bell and force a passing game, we can kill these guys with our pass rush and secondary. Ben isn't perfect, he is prone to mistakes, certainly if we can rattle him with Houston, Ford and Hali.

I was watching Bell yesterday, and there is a definite delay where he looks for a hole after the hand off. I don't think he will get away with that, as much, with our guys.

[Nzoner]

Thank you for calling me Geezus but when I look at his OP, I see NO system edit update at the bottom of his post that indicates it was ever edited.

So in the famous words of Steve Martin, "WELL EXCUUUUUUSSSE ME!" :harumph:

:shake:

I never edited my original post because if you click my link you will see KC opened on Scores and Odds as a 1 point dog thus the reason my thread title said as much.

[KChiefs1]

It moved 3.5 points in hours.

If only one were near a book, he could have both sides covered with a large window to hit both.

:eek:



That's a lot of movement.




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[CupidStunt]

The public is going to fucking pound the Steelers.

They see Big Ben vs Alex Smith. They see franchise QB vs smoke and mirrors. They see recent home losses to Tennessee and Tampa. They see decades of playoff failure vs recent multiple-time Super Bowl Champions.

It could be one of those games where Vegas gets either REALLY hammered, or makes huge profit. They're not gonna move the line to the point that KC is like a 4-5-6 point home dog, even if the money keeps pounding in on PIT. So either bettors will get it right and the Steelers come in and win as expected, causing Vegas to suffer, OR KC shows up and spoils the party.

Here's hoping it's the latter! As a Chiefs fan it's tempting to bet on PIT. But as a generally sharp bettor, I could actually see some value in a 12-win home playoff underdog if it gets to 3+. So in other words not betting would be best ... which is almost always the case. Heh.

[Time's Yours]

The public is going to fucking pound the Steelers.

They see Big Ben vs Alex Smith. They see franchise QB vs smoke and mirrors. They see recent home losses to Tennessee and Tampa. They see decades of playoff failure vs recent multiple-time Super Bowl Champions.

It could be one of those games where Vegas gets either REALLY hammered, or makes huge profit. They're not gonna move the line to the point that KC is like a 4-5-6 point home dog, even if the money keeps pounding in on PIT. So either bettors will get it right and the Steelers come in and win as expected, causing Vegas to suffer, OR KC shows up and spoils the party.

Here's hoping it's the latter! As a Chiefs fan it's tempting to bet on PIT. But as a generally sharp bettor, I could actually see some value in a 12-win home playoff underdog if it gets to 3+. So in other words not betting would be best ... which is almost always the case. Heh.

Westgate now -2.5 Chiefs. People are still betting KC so far.

[Otter]

Every reputable betting site has the Chiefs either -2 or -1.5 </br></br>http://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/odds/futures

[scho63]

:shake:

I never edited my original post because if you click my link you will see KC opened on Scores and Odds as a 1 point dog thus the reason my thread title said as much.

Thanks-I knew I wasn't loosing my marbles.

This is the one I check
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

[FringeNC]

Westgate now -2.5 Chiefs. People are still betting KC so far.

Maybe Ben is legit hurt.

[Mr. Laz]

Ben will play and the officials will let Pitt's O-Line hold like a mother f'er all game to keep the franchise QB upright. TV ratings want a Big Ben vs. Tom Brady to advertise all week. If we're going to win, we have to make multiple big plays and hope the flags don't fly for mysterious holding calls when we do.

I'm 45 and NEVER seen my Chiefs in the Superbowl. My dad has stage 4 cancer and his time on this Earth isn't guaranteed next season. We're overdue as fans, and time is running out to celebrate a win with my dad. If there's ever a time for this squad to overachieve, THIS is the time.

Sorry :(

[Nzoner]

Westgate now -2.5 Chiefs. People are still betting KC so far.

Every reputable betting site has the Chiefs either -2 or -1.5 </br></br>http://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/odds/futures

Yep,if you click the link in my OP it's now KC -2.5 as well and the over under has dropped 2.5 points,I'm assuming that weather forecast has a lot to do with that.

[Nzoner]

I no sooner post the above and it's dropped back to -2

[Nzoner]

As someone who has gambled NFL for 30 years that Dallas game has me :hmmm:
opened at Cowboys -4 and now up to -5 over the red hot Pack.

[Kiimo]

The Packers aren't going to stop Zeke, that's the problem.

[O.city]

As someone who has gambled NFL for 30 years that Dallas game has me :hmmm:
opened at Cowboys -4 and now up to -5 over the red hot Pack.

So that has the boys getting 5 points?

[Anyong Bluth]

No I wouldn't bet money on it at all. Chiefs are unpredictable, pre game analyst are always saying statements like " It depends which Alex shows up today" before a game.
If pre game analysts factor into your wagers, stay away from betting.

[Nzoner]

So that has the boys getting 5 points?

No they're giving 5,they have to win by 6 to cover that bet.

[Nzoner]

If pre game analysts factor into your wagers, stay away from betting.

This

[Great Expectations]

What do you think about the game tonight? I thought Clemson looked better than Bama last year, they just gave up a special teams and trick play TD, plus a weird TE long TD.

[Nzoner]

What do you think about the game tonight? I thought Clemson looked better than Bama last year, they just gave up a special teams and trick play TD, plus a weird TE long TD.

Sorry I don't bet college football only college basketball and only during March Madness.

[Anyong Bluth]

What you are missing is that Nzoner is one of the nuts that think the NFL is rigged.
Doesn't have to be rigged. Subjective calls at critical points can swing the odds and hand teams a path to victory without outright giving them the W. Doesn't mean teams can't still piss away prime opportunities to seize upon being gifted the scales tipped in their favor.

Watch the start of the 2nd half of the 2nd Raiders game. Oakland of course went into classic Oakland mode and any attempt to get them back into the game went to waste.

[jjchieffan]

No they're giving 5,they have to win by 6 to cover that bet.

Take that bet. The Cowgirls are going one and done. Aaron Rodgers and the Packers are going to destroy them.

[Nzoner]

Doesn't have to be rigged. Subjective calls at critical points can swing the odds and hand teams a path to victory without outright giving them the W. Doesn't mean teams can't still piss away prime opportunities to seize upon being gifted the scales tipped in their favor.

Watch the start of the 2nd half of the 2nd Raiders game. Oakland of course went into classic Oakland mode and any attempt to get them back into the game went to waste.

Thank you

[O.city]

No they're giving 5,they have to win by 6 to cover that bet.

Shit yeah, I read it wrong.

That's a little weird but rodgers is hot.

[TEX]

Doesn't have to be rigged. Subjective calls at critical points can swing the odds and hand teams a path to victory without outright giving them the W. Doesn't mean teams can't still piss away prime opportunities to seize upon being gifted the scales tipped in their favor.

Watch the start of the 2nd half of the 2nd Raiders game. Oakland of course went into classic Oakland mode and any attempt to get them back into the game went to waste.

Yep.

[O.city]

Rigged? No

"Persuaded"? I thi k you'd be crazy to thi k it hasn't been

[Nzoner]

Shit yeah, I read it wrong.

That's a little weird but rodgers is hot.

Agreed but I also just looked at their wins during their streak and the competition was just so-so.Of all the games this weekend this one has me the most undecided.

[Marcellus]

Rigged? No

"Persuaded"? I thi k you'd be crazy to thi k it hasn't been

I thi k you eed a ew key.

[KChiefs1]

Maybe Ben is legit hurt.



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[KCCHIEFS27]

Agreed but I also just looked at their wins during their streak and the competition was just so-so.Of all the games this weekend this one has me the most undecided.

Cowboys without a doubt.

[O.city]

I thi k you eed a ew key.

I'm always on my phone and the space key is right by the N. I'm to lazy to fix it.

[O.city]

Agreed but I also just looked at their wins during their streak and the competition was just so-so.Of all the games this weekend this one has me the most undecided.

True. But he just shredded a supposed legit d.

I think Dallas can keep the ball from him, but if the pack can get a few quick stops and scores, who knows.

[Otter]

As someone who has gambled NFL for 30 years that Dallas game has me :hmmm:
opened at Cowboys -4 and now up to -5 over the red hot Pack. If that line remains as is when I get home from work I'm going to drop $300 on Green Bay money.

[CupidStunt]

If that line remains as is when I get home from work I'm going to drop $300 on Green Bay money.

Where has the money gone? If the money has come in on Green Bay and the line moved like that, I'd be VERY scared of betting on GB. But if the line moved because people are pounding Dallas, well that's OK - good luck to ya!

[Nzoner]

Back to -1.5

Over/Under dropped yet again

[splatbass]

Thank you

So you think the refs are trying to influence games, but you bet on them anyway? You talk about odds, but aren't they meaningless under this scenario? seems kinda dumb to bet on fixed games.

[Anyong Bluth]

So you think the refs are trying to influence games, but you bet on them anyway? You talk about odds, but aren't they meaningless under this scenario? seems kinda dumb to bet on fixed games.
Betting is against the spread or other types of wagers. Doesn't mean you are forced to simply bet the winner or loser.

[Bob Dole]

Agreed but I also just looked at their wins during their streak and the competition was just so-so.Of all the games this weekend this one has me the most undecided.

Sweet baby Jesus, please don't let the Cowboys win. Bob Dole has to live around these phuqtards.

[Nzoner]

Betting is against the spread or other types of wagers. Doesn't mean you are forced to simply bet the winner or loser.

Thank you again

[Nzoner]

Sweet baby Jesus, please don't let the Cowboys win. Bob Dole has to live around these phuqtards.

LMAO

I remember that on my visit down there.

[wazu]

Liking the Over.

[KCCHIEFS27]

Public is obviously loving the Steelers. Meanwhile, sharps are enjoying that the line is dropping in favor of the chiefs

[notorious]

If that 2 point conversion stands, a lot of money is up for grabs because the Chiefs have a chance to cover.


All that money that moved the spread toward KC -1 got taken. Every last penny.

[notorious]

Am I off-base NZoner?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Doesn't have to be rigged. Subjective calls at critical points can swing the odds and hand teams a path to victory without outright giving them the W. Doesn't mean teams can't still piss away prime opportunities to seize upon being gifted the scales tipped in their favor.

Watch the start of the 2nd half of the 2nd Raiders game. Oakland of course went into classic Oakland mode and any attempt to get them back into the game went to waste.
Last night's game to a T

[redfan]

What was the final O/U on this game? So many weather forecast swings.