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Mr_Tomahawk
02-16-2017, 10:35 AM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/2/16/14635974/is-tyler-bray-ready-to-be-the-chiefs-no-2

Is Tyler Bray ready to be the Chiefs No. 2?

You saw the news this week that the Kansas City Chiefs are likely to pass on Nick Foles’ option making him a free agent in March. That would mean behind Alex Smith the Chiefs have only Tyler Bray and Joel Stave heading into 2017. Stave was a late add to the practice squad so they really only have Bray as a viable option to back up Alex Smith next season.

Is Bray ready to be the No. 2?

The answer that I have and that everyone should have: I have no idea.

Bray has been in the system for four years so I feel better about his chances than Stave but we still have no idea what Bray brings. He threw 26 passes last year, none in 2015, 32 in 2014 and 40 in 2013. These are all preseason, by the way. He has never thrown a regular season pass.

That lack of experience would concern me, especially if Alex Smith got hurt. But at some point the Chiefs need to decide on Bray. It’s hard to justify keeping him again next season if he can’t get past the Chiefs third quarterback spot after four years.




I would like to see Bray have a preseason that forces the Chiefs to make a decision on him. He plays lights out and makes it obvious he’s ready for the No. 2 role. Or if the Chiefs draft someone, he’ll be in competition with someone (a competition that would surely be stacked against him if it’s a high draft pick).

ljbeck316
02-16-2017, 10:42 AM
If he isn't ready to be the number 2, then its time to cut him loose. Draft a QB already.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-16-2017, 10:44 AM
If he isn't ready to be the number 2, then its time to cut him loose. Draft a QB already.

Congrats on your first post.

ljbeck316
02-16-2017, 10:45 AM
Thanks. Been lurking here for years and figured its time to jump in.

alpha_omega
02-16-2017, 10:46 AM
The answer is "no".

.....if he can’t get past the Chiefs third quarterback spot after four years......

In58men
02-16-2017, 10:51 AM
Thanks. Been lurking here for years and figured its time to jump in.

Yeah okay.

Easy 6
02-16-2017, 10:53 AM
If he isnt ready now, he never will be

BlackHelicopters
02-16-2017, 10:58 AM
He isn't ready . Ten cent head.

ljbeck316
02-16-2017, 11:03 AM
That didn't take long.

Beef Supreme
02-16-2017, 11:03 AM
Meh, who cares. Chiefs have me pretty apathetic at this point.

Rooster
02-16-2017, 11:06 AM
If he isnt ready now, he never will be

You are probably right. The NFL needs a developmental league. Even though I paid little to no attention to NFL Europe at least guys like Bray had a chance to get some playing time. Guys like Warner and Delhomme were able to work on things and it worked out well for them.

Discuss Thrower
02-16-2017, 11:07 AM
No.

ModSocks
02-16-2017, 11:14 AM
Have you guys even seen Bray's clipboard holding skills?

Me neither because he can't even crack the gameday active roster.

Easy 6
02-16-2017, 11:16 AM
You are probably right. The NFL needs a developmental league. Even though I paid little to no attention to NFL Europe at least guys like Bray had a chance to get some playing time. Guys like Warner and Delhomme were able to work on things and it worked out well for them.

NFL Europe should definitely be brought back, it would serve two purposes

1) provide playing time for young upstarts who need it to succeed, as you mention

2) put all of this talk about real teams in London or Mexico City to bed once and for all

RobBlake
02-16-2017, 11:25 AM
NFL Europe should definitely be brought back, it would serve two purposes

1) provide playing time for young upstarts who need it to succeed, as you mention

2) put all of this talk about real teams in London or Mexico City to bed once and for all

they should test out what a system like a conference in Europe and a conference in NA would look like.. I could it things evolving 20+ years from now.. where NA team faces a european team in the superbowl

Reerun_KC
02-16-2017, 11:26 AM
Who?

RobBlake
02-16-2017, 11:27 AM
Who?

he throws it deep

Easy 6
02-16-2017, 11:32 AM
they should test out what a system like a conference in Europe and a conference in NA would look like.. I could it things evolving 20+ years from now.. where NA team faces a european team in the superbowl

Eh, I dont really care for that at all

But you could probably draw interest from Goodell

notorious
02-16-2017, 11:32 AM
He isn't ready . Ten cent head.

Kilobits?

Perineum Ripper
02-16-2017, 11:41 AM
Kilobits?

Broken floppy disk

Hog's Gone Fishin
02-16-2017, 11:50 AM
You never REALLY know what you have until you give him some games. He may be the next Aaron Rodgers. I'm ready to take a look see.

Chiefnj2
02-16-2017, 11:53 AM
Bray being the backup to Smith has never made an ounce of sense. They are polar opposites. Smith has been an accurate, meh-armed ultra conservative QB with running ability. Bray has a cannon, is immobile and a gunslinger with accuracy issues.

No, he isn't ready because he doesn't fit what Andy wants to run.

Titty Meat
02-16-2017, 11:57 AM
He won't even be on the team next year

Easy 6
02-16-2017, 12:08 PM
Bray being the backup to Smith has never made an ounce of sense. They are polar opposites. Smith has been an accurate, meh-armed ultra conservative QB with running ability. Bray has a cannon, is immobile and a gunslinger with accuracy issues.

No, he isn't ready because he doesn't fit what Andy wants to run.

I dont buy that at all, you're talking like Reid is unable to adjust

Bray wouldnt be here at all if Andy didnt think he could fit him into the system

cwhocares
02-16-2017, 12:14 PM
he throws it deep

If no one is there to catch it, it doesn't matter.

loochy
02-16-2017, 12:19 PM
No.

Lex Luthor
02-16-2017, 12:31 PM
If no one is there to catch it, it doesn't matter.

Tyreek Hill was there to catch it in the playoff game against the Steelers.

Rasputin
02-16-2017, 12:34 PM
If #1 is to piss and Alex Smith then #2 is shit and Tyler Bray


I'm sure Tyler Bray is ready to shit on the field as our #2

007
02-16-2017, 01:11 PM
NO

Next question.

oldman
02-16-2017, 01:35 PM
I don't have any problems seeing what Bray has or doesn't have. It's time to shit or get off the pot with him. As much as I like Romo, he's a walking injury report. If we got him, we'd eat up every bit of our available money. Foles is a backup and as long as he's here we'll never have anything but castoff talent at QB. Start Smith, Bray at #2 and get a QB that plays in a pro-style system. If Smith goes down and Bray bombs, so be it, we'll draft higher next year in a lot deeper class.

Eleazar
02-16-2017, 09:47 PM
I predict Bray will be a victim of the final cutdown and will be taking his insurance sales exams by week 10

BigBeauford
02-16-2017, 10:11 PM
I predict Bray will be a victim of the final cutdown and will be taking his insurance sales exams by week 10

I feel like this has been said every year of his career.

kccrow
02-16-2017, 10:25 PM
I bet Reid hated that gunslinger, Brett Favre, that he got to work with in GB as QB Coach/Asst Head Coach during that 1997 Super Bowl run.

That said, I haven't seen enough of Bray as a pro to make any sense of whether he has the goods.

He's taken gunslinger types before, see also Nick Foles.

kjwood75nro
02-16-2017, 10:56 PM
I'm sure Bray can not run, have terrible pocket presence, throw RZ picks and not see open receivers just as well as Alex.

Bwana
02-16-2017, 11:08 PM
End the experiment already.

https://philosophyinseconds.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/guiltine.gif?w=400&h=296&crop=1 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjMs8aprpbSAhVV6mMKHZlSDWsQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fphilosophyinseconds.wordpress.com%2F&bvm=bv.147134024,d.cGc&psig=AFQjCNF1YUtlanEGTU8i1gwStEFlNR0eLQ&ust=1487394414360015)

Trent Green GOAT
02-16-2017, 11:23 PM
Honestly idc, I'm tired of mediocre (at best) qb play.

Reerun_KC
02-17-2017, 12:35 AM
I feel like this has been said every year of his career.

What career?

kcchiefsus
02-17-2017, 01:40 AM
End the experiment already.

https://philosophyinseconds.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/guiltine.gif?w=400&h=296&crop=1 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjMs8aprpbSAhVV6mMKHZlSDWsQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fphilosophyinseconds.wordpress.com%2F&bvm=bv.147134024,d.cGc&psig=AFQjCNF1YUtlanEGTU8i1gwStEFlNR0eLQ&ust=1487394414360015)

Yes, the Alex experiment.

kcxiv
02-17-2017, 01:52 AM
Yeah okay.

it took me a few years before i made an account to post here as well. I just lurked, then one day said, fuck it.

Demonpenz
02-17-2017, 02:59 AM
I have bray in a death pool

Pasta Little Brioni
02-17-2017, 07:46 AM
Another thread about this turd???

ChiTown
02-17-2017, 07:49 AM
I have bray in a death pool
ROFL

KCChiefsFan88
02-17-2017, 09:40 AM
No.

He's been with the Chiefs for 4 seasons now and has shown nothing.

His best attribute is that he's better than Ricky Stanzi and Aaron Murray.

Eleazar
02-17-2017, 09:55 AM
What career?

I think to claim he has a career he'd have to take a snap in a real NFL game.

They have never even sent Bray out to down the ball.

ChiliConCarnage
02-17-2017, 10:13 AM
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/5/21/15/enhanced-buzz-14450-1369165321-8.jpg

Mr. Laz
02-17-2017, 04:30 PM
If he isn't ready to be the number 2, then its time to cut him loose. Draft a QB already.
yep


Although tbh we have drafted several QB's "already", we just haven't drafted a good one "already".

HemiEd
02-17-2017, 05:04 PM
I am ready for him to be number one.

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-17-2017, 06:41 PM
Nuke the entire fucking QB roster and start over?

King_Chief_Fan
02-17-2017, 08:03 PM
Only 1 option or Bray....cut him

jonzie04
02-17-2017, 08:24 PM
Dude can't even stay healthy on the practice squad, why on earth would you depend on him to be the backup qb?

jspchief
02-17-2017, 08:59 PM
Dude can't even stay healthy on the practice squad, why on earth would you depend on him to be the backup qb?
He can back up Romoeaki.

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-17-2017, 09:09 PM
All I know is this:

If, at this stage of the Chief's franchise history, you find yourself advocating for the acquisition of another FA for the Quarterback position over drafting and developing a legitimate, high round prospect, then you are fucking dead to me.

You are and idiot.

In fact, there does not exist in the entirety of the English language a proper and fitting set of nouns, verbs, and adjectives to TRULY describe what a brain-dead, waster of oxygen you have become.

You are worthy of nothing, and deserve every ounce of bad luck, bad calls, and ass-whippings the NFL sees fit to bestow upon you.

You are the problem, not the solution, and you should probably never speak of football around people with an IQ higher than that of a house plant.

Thank you, and goodnight.

Mr. Laz
02-17-2017, 10:35 PM
Nuke the entire fucking QB roster and start over?Makes no sense.

You don't nuke an entire set of QBs if for no other reason than the QBs help to coach the system to the new guys. It makes training camp that much harder for the entire team if the QBs are all trying to learn the system at the same time that they are trying to run 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills.

This is the kind of comments that makes people look silly.

We need to add talent at the QB position but you don't get stupid about it.

If the Chiefs are going to get serious about drafting a QBoTF then you keep Alex Smith and lets the rookie earn as much playing time as he is ready for. If he can start Day 1 then fantastic but you don't go nuts.

I will be ecstatic if Andy Reid just shows some real intent to draft/develop a young QB. So far he has half-assed it at best. I doubt we see anything different next season.

We will draft a QB in round 4 or later. We will bring in a veteran QB FA that keeps all the young guy's fight for the 3rd spot. One young QB will get a mysterious injury that maintains appearances that we are really trying to develop a young guy.

Nickhead
02-17-2017, 11:43 PM
unless the chiefs plan to move up in the draft, there is no reason to draft ANOTHER late round qb having bray in the wings. he knows the playbook left and right, thats way better than bringing in a rookie.

now, if foles restructures his contract, then cut bray. not after five years.

beach tribe
02-18-2017, 10:47 AM
I really hate to say it but I'm going to:
I would be ten times more excited about the upcoming season with Bray under C than a guy that "Have no Mahbles"

beach tribe
02-18-2017, 10:53 AM
unless the chiefs plan to move up in the draft, there is no reason to draft ANOTHER late round qb having bray in the wings. he knows the playbook left and right, thats way better than bringing in a rookie.

now, if foles restructures his contract, then cut bray. not after five years.

Quarterbacks drafted in the later rounds are done so for developmental purposes.
However it is almost impossible to say what they will eventually develop into.
Keep in mind the overall idea is not to develop a third or even 2nd Stringer if that's what they develop into then it does not hurt you to have frequent turnover and play the numbers game in hopes of finding and developing a special talent
If it has already been determined that your prospect has hit his ceiling then it's time to bring in a new guy to see if he can be developed into something better than what you have

Mr. Laz
02-18-2017, 02:43 PM
I really hate to say it but I'm going to:
I would be ten times more excited about the upcoming season with Bray under C than a guy that "Have no Mahbles"

CPlanet deserves just that

kccrow
02-18-2017, 06:57 PM
All I know is this:

If, at this stage of the Chief's franchise history, you find yourself advocating for the acquisition of another FA for the Quarterback position over drafting and developing a legitimate, high round prospect, then you are fucking dead to me.

You are and idiot.

In fact, there does not exist in the entirety of the English language a proper and fitting set of nouns, verbs, and adjectives to TRULY describe what a brain-dead, waster of oxygen you have become.

You are worthy of nothing, and deserve every ounce of bad luck, bad calls, and ass-whippings the NFL sees fit to bestow upon you.

You are the problem, not the solution, and you should probably never speak of football around people with an IQ higher than that of a house plant.

Thank you, and goodnight.

Some of us want both. I want the Chiefs to trade Smith, acquire Romo, and draft a QB in round 1. None of this QB class is ready to start year 1. Roll the dice on Romo staying healthy this year while the youngster gets ready for next year.

Alex Smith isn't winning jack nor shit for this franchise. Romo at least has the skill to elicit hope.