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DaFace
02-28-2017, 01:28 PM
I completely fucked up in trying to merge the other two threads. I'll hang my head in shame. In the meantime, here's a new thread.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs gave S Eric Berry a six-year, $78 million deal that includes $40 million guaranteed and a $20 mil signing bonus, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/836644811973230592">February 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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hometeam
02-28-2017, 01:30 PM
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02-28-2017, 01:31 PM
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Eleazar
02-28-2017, 01:31 PM
Recap of other thread:

Hooray. Hope he and Houston stay healthy cause they have a lot of money wrapped up in those two.

DaFace
02-28-2017, 01:33 PM
Like the dude at the Oscars, my explanation doesn't make it better, but for what it's worth...

I merged the two threads, but KnowMo's post was the first one, so he was retained as the OP. I tried to delete that post so that the next one in line would become the OP, but apparently our hack to keep the first post on every page isn't quite right, and instead of clicking on the button to delete the first post, I ended up clicking on the button to delete the whole thread.

:sulk:

Kiimo
02-28-2017, 01:36 PM
You erased the thread like Berry erases redzone opportunities.

Eleazar
02-28-2017, 01:36 PM
Like the dude at the Oscars, my explanation doesn't make it better, but for what it's worth...

I merged the two threads, but KnowMo's post was the first one, so he was retained as the OP. I tried to delete that post so that the next one in line would become the OP, but apparently our hack to keep the first post on every page isn't quite right, and instead of clicking on the button to delete the first post, I ended up clicking on the button to delete the whole thread.

:sulk:

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:p

Pitt Gorilla
02-28-2017, 01:36 PM
Sooo, do we float something toward Poe? I don't like his wonky back or that other teams ran all over him last season, but at least throw out a number?!?

siberian khatru
02-28-2017, 01:36 PM
Like the dude at the Oscars, my explanation doesn't make it better, but for what it's worth...

I merged the two threads, but KnowMo's post was the first one, so he was retained as the OP. I tried to delete that post so that the next one in line would become the OP, but apparently our hack to keep the first post on every page isn't quite right, and instead of clicking on the button to delete the first post, I ended up clicking on the button to delete the whole thread.

:sulk:

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DJ's left nut
02-28-2017, 01:37 PM
Still had the same screen up on my phone so here's a copy/paste of my clearly outstanding contribution to Pug's thread:

Bonus can only spread over 5 years so that puts $4 mil/season in cap.

Maybe 5/$60 in 'real' money?

17 - $1 million guaranteed (5 mil cap hit)
18- $7 million guaranteed (11 mil hit)
19 - $8 million gtd (12 mil hit)
20 - $11 partially gtd ($15 mil hit, $4 mil gtd)
21 - $13 (17 mil hit w/ $4 mil penalty if cut)
22 - $18 (no cap penalty to cut outright)

Obviously a wild-ass guess but that would be 4/$47 at that point.

DJ's left nut
02-28-2017, 01:41 PM
Sooo, do we float something toward Poe? I don't like his wonky back or that other teams ran all over him last season, but at least throw out a number?!?

I don't have any interest in tagging him, to be honest.

$13+ million for an 'anchor' who didn't actually do much to stop the run nor have his pass-rush skills ever come together.

The back made him a physically impressive JAG. That or his development just never did what we'd hoped and teams have adjusted. Maybe he makes a difference in gameplanning that we just don't see but I tell ya, it's not as thought he run game can get much worse. We were selling out to stop the run by the end of the year and putting our guys in real tough spots over the middle.

If they offer him the tag, he'll sign it that day and that will be the starting point for discussions. I don't think the market will support that kind of scratch for him and woe be the team that pays it to him. We rode that guy like a rented mule; I worry that we've seen the best he has to give.

MMXcalibur
02-28-2017, 01:57 PM
I honestly don't think I could have rooted for the Chiefs quite as much as I have knowing they let Berry walk after everything he's been through with the team.
Plus, he's an OK player, I guess.

mcaj22
02-28-2017, 02:02 PM
Still had the same screen up on my phone so here's a copy/paste of my clearly outstanding contribution to Pug's thread:

Bonus can only spread over 5 years so that puts $4 mil/season in cap.

Maybe 5/$60 in 'real' money?

17 - $1 million guaranteed (5 mil cap hit)
18- $7 million guaranteed (11 mil hit)
19 - $8 million gtd (12 mil hit)
20 - $11 partially gtd ($15 mil hit, $4 mil gtd)
21 - $13 (17 mil hit w/ $4 mil penalty if cut)
22 - $18 (no cap penalty to cut outright)

Obviously a wild-ass guess but that would be 4/$47 at that point.

Clark cut a massive check up front to keep those cap hits low goodness

whoever says now Clark is cheap is a just a flat out liar

T-post Tom
02-28-2017, 02:04 PM
Not sure having the NFL's highest paid safety and overpaying an average guard are steps to becoming a Super Bowl team. :rolleyes:

staylor26
02-28-2017, 02:09 PM
Not sure having the NFL's highest paid safety and overpaying an average guard are steps to becoming a Super Bowl team. :rolleyes:

Maybe we should drop Dorsey and hire you then!

T-post Tom
02-28-2017, 02:10 PM
Maybe we should drop Dorsey and hire you then!

Salary cap and veteran contracts have not been one of Dorsey's strengths. I would gladly take a small, reasonable salary as Cap Consultant. :thumb: That said, I'm not calling for his job. He's also made a lot of good moves with the roster.

staylor26
02-28-2017, 02:13 PM
Salary cap and veteran contracts have not been one of Dorsey's strengths. I would gladly take a small, reasonable salary as Cap Consultant. :thumb: That said, I'm not calling for his job. He's also made a lot of good moves with the roster.

lol I'm just giving you shit man!

ThaVirus
02-28-2017, 02:14 PM
I'll say it again here, because either I'm confused or a few others are:

This should work out to around a $16 million cap hit per season on average.

Remains to be seen whether the deal will be worth it or not but I think he can be effective for the length of the contract.

T-post Tom
02-28-2017, 02:16 PM
lol I'm just giving you shit man!

So you don't have the pull to get me hired as a Capoligist?

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Nightfyre
02-28-2017, 02:16 PM
So really this deal is 4/47 with chiefs having plenty of leverage and flexibility in the 2021 season.

Sassy Squatch
02-28-2017, 02:17 PM
I'll say it again here, because either I'm confused or a few others are:

This should work out to around a $16 million cap hit per season on average.

Remains to be seen whether the deal will be worth it or not but I think he can be effective for the length of the contract.
How? 78÷6 is 13 exactly. How do you get to a 16 mil AAV?

ThaVirus
02-28-2017, 02:20 PM
How? 78÷6 is 13 exactly. How do you get to a 16 mil AAV?


That's where either I or a few of you guys are confused..

As far as I'm aware, when figuring out the CAP HIT, you have to include the signing bonus, which is generally stretched out over the length of the contract. So we'd essentially be adding an additional $3+ million per season ($20m divided by 6 years) to the $13m salary.

Sofa King
02-28-2017, 02:22 PM
I'll say it again here, because either I'm confused or a few others are:

This should work out to around a $16 million cap hit per season on average.

Remains to be seen whether the deal will be worth it or not but I think he can be effective for the length of the contract.

How did you get 16?

DaFace
02-28-2017, 02:22 PM
That's where either I or a few of you guys are confused..

As far as I'm aware, when figuring out the CAP HIT, you have to include the signing bonus, which is generally stretched out over the length of the contract. So we'd essentially be adding an additional $3+ million per season ($20m divided by 6 years) to the $13m salary.

"Chiefs gave S Eric Berry a six-year, $78 million deal that includes $40 million guaranteed and a $20 mil signing bonus, per source."

The signing bonus is part of the $78m.

dlphg9
02-28-2017, 02:23 PM
Love me some Eric Berry

PHOG
02-28-2017, 02:24 PM
Nice!! :thumb:

ThaVirus
02-28-2017, 02:25 PM
"Chiefs gave S Eric Berry a six-year, $78 million deal that includes $40 million guaranteed and a $20 mil signing bonus, per source."



The signing bonus is part of the $78m.


Guess I was the one confused then.

That's awesome. $13m cap hit isn't too bad.

DJ's left nut
02-28-2017, 02:27 PM
I'll say it again here, because either I'm confused or a few others are:

This should work out to around a $16 million cap hit per season on average.

Remains to be seen whether the deal will be worth it or not but I think he can be effective for the length of the contract.

You're still wrong.

The $78 million includes the bonus. It's $58 million in salary + $20 million signing bonus.

You're double counting the signing bonus - no contracts are ever announced like that.

DJ's left nut
02-28-2017, 02:29 PM
That's where either I or a few of you guys are confused..

As far as I'm aware, when figuring out the CAP HIT, you have to include the signing bonus, which is generally stretched out over the length of the contract. So we'd essentially be adding an additional $3+ million per season ($20m divided by 6 years) to the $13m salary.

Can only spread a bonus over 5; so take the $58 million in salary, guarantee $20 of it (the remaining $20 mil gtd is the bonus) and spread that out over 6 years however you see fit, then add $4 mil/season to the first 5 seasons for the total cap hit.

mcaj22
02-28-2017, 02:32 PM
yea Clark literally cut a fat check when that contract was signed today.

This agent is cleaning Clarks pockets Berry, LDT, Spiller

ThaVirus
02-28-2017, 02:32 PM
no contracts are ever announced like that.


Were they at one point in time? I feel like I'd have gotten that from somewhere.

DJ's left nut
02-28-2017, 02:38 PM
Were they at one point in time? I feel like I'd have gotten that from somewhere.

Not that I've ever seen.

DJ's left nut
02-28-2017, 02:41 PM
Found my proposal in Boss Chiefs thread:

I think your total figures are about 12-15% too high. Let's say 5/60 w/ $32 million guaranteed instead.

Signing bonus of $20 million with guaranteed salaries of 3 and 5 million in years 1 and 2, partially guaranteed at $8 million in year 3. Unguaranteed salaries of $10 and $14 million in years 4 and 5.

2017: $7 million cap hit
2018: $9 million cap hit
2019: $12 million cap hit
2020: $14 million cap hit
2021: $18 million cap hit

At that point keeping him around in 2020 is actually feasible so you've actually gotten return on 4 years of that signing bonus instead of 3 and then eating 2 of them. If you keep him through 4 years, you've spent $46 million over 4 seasons (fair figure for the market) and if all hell breaks loose you've spent $36 over three; as a worst case scenario, Berry does pretty well there.

So ultimately I'd say no to your proposal but you have my counter, Mr. Berry.



Looks like I got the signing bonus right at $20 million. I put the guarantee lower (I didn't guarantee as much salary as this deal likely will), but I'm betting in the end my 5/$60 million ends up really really close to what he actually sees in the first 5 years of this deal and I think the 6th year allows some salary spread that makes it possible that my 4/$46 prediction also ends up pretty close to balls on.

Marcellus
02-28-2017, 02:42 PM
yea Clark literally cut a fat check when that contract was signed today.

This agent is cleaning Clarks pockets Berry, LDT, Spiller

I am sure the agent made about $5 off that contract.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 02:44 PM
I wonder who is on the hook for the insurance policy

MahiMike
02-28-2017, 02:47 PM
Not sure this was the right move. I will say we can trust him with the big contract to not mail it in.

I hope.

RealSNR
02-28-2017, 02:49 PM
That fucking sucks. We paid that much for a guy who doesn't even sell that many jerseys?!

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 02:49 PM
The contract works in the sense that after this season we are offloading other big contracts including DJ, tamba, and Smith.

BossChief
02-28-2017, 02:49 PM
Sweet. We got him for a reasonable deal!

The Franchise
02-28-2017, 02:51 PM
Sweet. We got him for a reasonable deal!

I gave you credit....but DaFace deleted that shit.

TLO
02-28-2017, 02:55 PM
Here's hoping he can stay healthy better than Justin Houston!

dlphg9
02-28-2017, 02:57 PM
What our estimated cap space now?

O.city
02-28-2017, 03:01 PM
The big deals aren't a big deal if our qb is making peanuts in a year or two

staylor26
02-28-2017, 03:02 PM
The big deals aren't a big deal if our qb is making peanuts in a year or two

Exactly

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:07 PM
He's only making 50% more than Kam Chancellor will make next season. NBD.

staylor26
02-28-2017, 03:09 PM
He's only making 50% more than Kam Chancellor will make next season. NBD.

Dude, you know I don't hate you like everybody else, but this is stupid.

How much more is Alex making than Carr?

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:11 PM
Dude, you know I don't hate you like everybody else, but this is stupid.

How much more is Alex making than Carr?

Except Chancellor and Berry are the same age.

The Franchise
02-28-2017, 03:13 PM
Let me know when Chancellor has to cover like Earl Thomas deep.

ChiliConCarnage
02-28-2017, 03:13 PM
Did we literally have to cut Charles in order to sign this deal?

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 03:14 PM
He's only making 50% more than Kam Chancellor will make next season. NBD.

shut the fuck up

staylor26
02-28-2017, 03:15 PM
Except Chancellor and Berry are the same age.

And like Pest just pointed out, Berry isn't strictly a box safety like Kam.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:16 PM
shut the **** up

And the censorship continues. Still preaching to the population that antibiotics are the devil?? ROFL

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 03:17 PM
And the censorship continues. Still preaching to the population that antibiotics are the devil?? ROFL

and you're still a fucking idiot. i havent censored anything ...YET.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:18 PM
And like Pest just pointed out, Berry isn't strictly a box safety like Kam.

1) Pest is an ass clown who deserves to be on ignore. Literally no one ever quotes or praises him

2) Earl Thomas is in the same boat as Berry and he'll make 33% less than Berry the next two seasons despite being a better player

The Franchise
02-28-2017, 03:19 PM
I'm the ass clown. ROFL

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:19 PM
and you're still a ****ing idiot. i havent censored anything ...YET.

You sound upset. Maybe it's time to take a walk around the block. Don't want to upset more donators to the site. Kyle wouldn't like that.

Bugeater
02-28-2017, 03:19 PM
And the censorship continues. Still preaching to the population that antibiotics are the devil?? ROFL
This is what we call derailing a thread....

RunKC
02-28-2017, 03:20 PM
Let me know when Kam is 1st team all pro. Berry has done it multiple times including last year.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:20 PM
And there goes Sauto...AGAIN...messing with people's settings.

Bugeater
02-28-2017, 03:20 PM
You sound upset. Maybe it's time to take a walk around the block. Don't want to upset more donators to the site. Kyle wouldn't like that.
This is another example.

The Franchise
02-28-2017, 03:21 PM
And there goes Sauto...AGAIN...messing with people's settings.

Your red is showing.

RealSNR
02-28-2017, 03:22 PM
I'm the ass clown. ROFL

Quoting Pestilence just because I love him and Tiger hates him.

<3 Pesty

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:22 PM
If ESPN put up a national poll or expert committee poll I guarantee you Kam Chancellor or Earl Thomas would haul in at least twice the votes Berry does. The people on here who don't watch football outside of KC continue to show their ignorance.

Nightfyre
02-28-2017, 03:23 PM
How sad is Tigger's life that he has to come to a message board to quantify and validate himself with quotes and praises.

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 03:23 PM
And there goes Sauto...AGAIN...messing with people's settings.

THIS time it was me, only a fucking pussy leaves it on when its green and turns it off as soon as it turns red.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:23 PM
This is another example.

Hey old man, you are just as guilty for derailing the thread.

The Franchise
02-28-2017, 03:23 PM
Quoting Pestilence just because I love him and Tiger hates him.

<3 Pesty

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TigeRRUppeRRcut
02-28-2017, 03:24 PM
THIS time it was me, only a ****ing pussy leaves it on when its green and turns it off as soon as it turns red.

So you're selling out Bowser now? ROFL
Nice work

The Franchise
02-28-2017, 03:25 PM
Like I've stated before.

Tell me what Tigger donates and I'll double it......if he's gone.

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 03:27 PM
Like I've stated before.

Tell me what Tigger donates and I'll double it......if he's gone.

it wouldnt take much.

Bugeater
02-28-2017, 03:27 PM
If ESPN put up a national poll or expert committee poll I guarantee you Kam Chancellor or Earl Thomas would haul in at least twice the votes Berry does. The people on here who don't watch football outside of KC continue to show their ignorance.
Playing in a couple Super Bowls helps for national recognition. Unfortunately your boyfriend can't get us to one, much less win a playoff game, so yeah, Berry isn't going to be as well known.

Eleazar
02-28-2017, 03:28 PM
Tigger is obviously stirring the pot, but hey. Let's be honest about the distance between Berry's contract and that of the next best/next highest paid safety. It's a significant point.

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 03:28 PM
So you're selling out Bowser now? ROFL
Nice work

i dont know who did what.

The Franchise
02-28-2017, 03:29 PM
Yeah....no one knows who Eric Berry is. There are all kinds of All-Pro safeties that win comeback player of the year after beating cancer. Shit happens all of the time.

RunKC
02-28-2017, 03:29 PM
If ESPN put up a national poll or expert committee poll I guarantee you Kam Chancellor or Earl Thomas would haul in at least twice the votes Berry does. The people on here who don't watch football outside of KC continue to show their ignorance.

The all pro team is decided this very way dumbass

Bugeater
02-28-2017, 03:29 PM
Hey old man, you are just as guilty for derailing the thread.I was hoping a mod would take the cue and ban your dumb ass from the thread, but instead they're fucking with you which is fine with me as well.

mcaj22
02-28-2017, 03:30 PM
dude is just mad that the Chiefs are one of the few franchises were their best player on their roster is a positional player like safety and not QB

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 03:30 PM
I was hoping a mod would take the cue and ban your dumb ass from the thread, but instead they're fucking with you which is fine with me as well.

i did both.

Bugeater
02-28-2017, 03:31 PM
i did both.
LMAO That works too.

Eleazar
02-28-2017, 03:31 PM
dude is just mad that the Chiefs are one of the few franchises were their best player on their roster is a positional player like safety and not QB

Erm... That's not a good thing.

Kiimo
02-28-2017, 03:32 PM
There are posters on this thread that know deep in their hearts they had wrong opinions on Berry.

I was never one of them. Suck it.

#5thdimension

Quesadilla Joe
02-28-2017, 03:40 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Besides having Eric Berry long term, a $5M 2017 salary cap number is a lot better for KC than a $12,967,200 franchise tag.</p>&mdash; Joel Corry (@corryjoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel/status/836691403941924864">February 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Dante84
02-28-2017, 03:43 PM
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Dante84
02-28-2017, 03:44 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s official. We have signed safety Eric Berry to a contract extension.<a href="https://t.co/ak9M7wa9VW">https://t.co/ak9M7wa9VW</a> <a href="https://t.co/kaIiNl3Yvx">pic.twitter.com/kaIiNl3Yvx</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/836690416569286658">February 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Marcellus
02-28-2017, 03:51 PM
Sweet. We got him for a reasonable deal!

Ahem. :D

DJ's left nut
02-28-2017, 03:53 PM
I gave you credit....but DaFace deleted that shit.

I was righter goddammit!

staylor26
02-28-2017, 03:57 PM
I was righter goddammit!

Ok well here I am giving DJ credit too. Is everybody's ego happy now? :D

big nasty kcnut
02-28-2017, 03:57 PM
So Party time?

Marcellus
02-28-2017, 03:57 PM
I was righter goddammit!

This bet probably gets settled today, am I am thinking 50/50 on odds right now.

I am sticking to $13MM average salary which is about half a mil more than he should get but whats a half mil per year difference.

I was light on details but I nailed it dammit!

RunKC
02-28-2017, 04:21 PM
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Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 04:27 PM
Good news.

It's actually less than I expected.


40 million in guaranteed is a huge chunk of change though

I wonder if there's Non-football related exceptions included.

Nickhead
02-28-2017, 04:28 PM
you know for that kind of money he could have at least dressed up in a decent suit. no respect these younger generations. :D

mdchiefsfan
02-28-2017, 04:30 PM
you know for that kind of money he could have at least dressed up in a decent suit. no respect these younger generations. :D

ROFL

Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 04:30 PM
Not sure having the NFL's highest paid safety and overpaying an average guard are steps to becoming a Super Bowl team. :rolleyes:

It's usually not where you spend your big dollars.

An average of 35 million per year for Houston and Berry now?

beach tribe
02-28-2017, 04:30 PM
1) Pest is an ass clown who deserves to be on ignore. Literally no one ever quotes or praises him

2) Earl Thomas is in the same boat as Berry and he'll make 33% less than Berry the next two seasons despite being a better player

Wrong as usual. Berry can can play either role as well as they can.

Niether of them can do both like Berry can.

Fuckin Idiot.

Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 04:35 PM
Wrong as usual. Berry can can play either role as well as they can.

Niether of them can do both like Berry can.

Fuckin Idiot.
Not taking sides, but Berry is still a work in progress playing single-high

He is still a much better player at SS.

He helps our run defense a ton at SS (It was huge when we pulled Berry back and then DJ and Allen got hurt, our run defense turned to shit)
He is better in coverage in the box
He can blitz when he's in the box

He has improved a lot playing deep but he's still not there yet.

Chiefspants
02-28-2017, 04:35 PM
Tiger's points about Berry's earnings compared to other top safeties isn't something that should be so easily derided. We have a lot riding on Berry's health, and need him to maintain a top of the line performance to justify his contract.

Of course, if we win it all, it won't exactly matter. No one is really too upset about Alex Gordon's contract, which is a stark contrast the angry mobs that came after Mike "Team Captain" Sweeney after his.

Winning it all cures everything, I just hope this team can bring it home for all of the outstanding people on this roster.

beach tribe
02-28-2017, 04:37 PM
you know for that kind of money he could have at least dressed up in a decent suit. no respect these younger generations. :D

Shit, I think it's comforting that a young black man that the team just made a huge investment in feels comfortable signing a contract for 78 mil wearing workout gear.

I'll take the guy bringing the pain instead of making it rain.

Nickhead
02-28-2017, 04:40 PM
Shit, I think it's comforting that a young black man that the team just made a huge investment in feels comfortable signing a contract for 78 mil wearing workout gear.

I'll take the guy bringing the pain instead of making it rain.

im actually okay with the attire, but the hoodie is a serious lack of disrespect. given the social connotations it implies, why not a chiefs cap backwards :D

beach tribe
02-28-2017, 04:43 PM
Not taking sides, but Berry is still a work in progress playing single-high

He is still a much better player at SS.

He helps our run defense a ton at SS (It was huge when we pulled Berry back and then DJ and Allen got hurt, our run defense turned to shit)
He is better in coverage in the box
He can blitz when he's in the box

He has improved a lot playing deep but he's still not there yet.
Yet he single handedly won games for us in coverage,
Not playing in the box.

I was disappointed in a few blown coverages last year in his first season with extensive playing time as a deep safety but can anyone really argue the fact that he was one of the most dynamic Playmakers at that position.

Can anyone dispute him tilting the balance of games in our favor more heavily than any other safety for any other team in the league.

Seriously, what other safety single-handedly won games, not a game, games, plural, for their team?

beach tribe
02-28-2017, 04:45 PM
im actually okay with the attire, but the hoodie is a serious lack of disrespect. given the social connotations it implies, why not a chiefs cap backwards :D

I agree completely. It is a lack of disrespect.
Actually I don't see it as any disrespect whatsoever :D

But seriously ,He's not a businessman. He's a football player.
His agent is a businessman and his agent was probably wearing a suit when he made the deal.
Eric was probably working out when the deal was made

Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 04:50 PM
Yet he single handedly won games for us in coverage,
Not playing in the box.

I was disappointed in a few blown coverages last year in his first season with extensive playing time as a deep safety but can anyone really argue the fact that he was one of the most dynamic Playmakers at that position.

Can anyone dispute him tilting the balance of games in our favor more heavily than any other safety for any other team in the league.

Seriously, what other safety single-handedly won games, not a game, games, plural, for their team?
A little bit of an exaggeration

One of those interceptions was a tipped ball that turned into a jump ball. If I remember correctly there was another Chief there would could have made the play if Berry hadn't.

Listen ... Berry, Houston and DJ are the only guys we have that bring a physical and tough style to our defense. We need Berry and he is a fine player, let's just not get it too twisted.

beach tribe
02-28-2017, 04:50 PM
Not taking sides, but Berry is still a work in progress playing single-high

He is still a much better player at SS.

He helps our run defense a ton at SS (It was huge when we pulled Berry back and then DJ and Allen got hurt, our run defense turned to shit)
He is better in coverage in the box
He can blitz when he's in the box

He has improved a lot playing deep but he's still not there yet.

To elaborate a little further on this point I was never in favor of taking Berry out of the box.

He is truly Elite there but honestly I think with another season under his belt he's going to be elite anywhere on the field

raybec 4
02-28-2017, 04:52 PM
im actually okay with the attire, but the hoodie is a serious lack of disrespect. given the social connotations it implies, why not a chiefs cap backwards :D

What the fuck is a lack of disrespect? That means completely respectful right?

rabblerouser
02-28-2017, 04:54 PM
So you don't have the pull to get me hired as a Capoligist?

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder15/500x/43616015.jpg

"Broken Dreams" is when you're heading into the season as a supposed "legitimate SB contender", but the best player on either side of the ball is your fucking safety.

beach tribe
02-28-2017, 04:55 PM
A little bit of an exaggeration

One of those interceptions was a tipped ball that turned into a jump ball. If I remember correctly there was another Chief there would could have made the play if Berry hadn't.

Listen ... Berry, Houston and DJ are the only guys we have that bring a physical and tough style to our defense. We need Berry and he is a fine player, let's just not get it too twisted.
I don't have anything twisted. I've been watching him play since his freshman year in Knoxville.

He's a playmaker and difference maker wherever he lines up.

He will be 30 in two years keeping him in the Box full time will beat his body down and shorten the amount of years that he will be an elite safety

Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 04:58 PM
To elaborate a little further on this point I was never in favor of taking Berry out of the box.

He is truly Elite there but honestly I think with another season under his belt he's going to be elite anywhere on the field
agreed

Crennel screwed up by putting Berry in the box from Day 1. Then we left him in there for too long.

Then suddenly everyone realized that you can't really pay a SS that much coin so they moved him. It was really too late to make such a move, but we did it. :shrug:

Hopefully this year he will make further strides at a FS and we will have the best of both worlds. He better for the coin he's making.

Houston and Berry better fucking show up.

35 million dollars per for the 2 of them

kccrow
02-28-2017, 05:12 PM
After the LDT contract, this is all just fucking whatever to me. Sign checks to whomever. Let's go be dogshit for 10 more years.

Nickhead
02-28-2017, 05:15 PM
What the fuck is a lack of disrespect? That means completely respectful right?

ROFL i was being playful. the guy can dress how he sees fit. im unemployed at the moment. not in a position to judge others appearances ROFL

Ming the Merciless
02-28-2017, 05:16 PM
URC BURY

staylor26
02-28-2017, 05:44 PM
After the LDT contract, this is all just ****ing whatever to me. Sign checks to whomever. Let's go be dogshit for 10 more years.

How are we set up to be dog shit?

You do realize that once we rid ourselves of Alex, Dustin, Tamba, and DJ's contracts we will be in good shape cap wise with a talented roster still, right? I don't see what the big deal is. If we draft a QB will you still feel that way?

Terrible take man.

BossChief
02-28-2017, 05:44 PM
Can you guys flush this tiger turd, please?

The guy ruins every thread he posts in with violations of the TOS.

dlphg9
02-28-2017, 05:47 PM
After the LDT contract, this is all just ****ing whatever to me. Sign checks to whomever. Let's go be dogshit for 10 more years.

Why don't you cry about it?

milkman
02-28-2017, 05:57 PM
Can you guys flush this tiger turd, please?

The guy ruins every thread he posts in with violations of the TOS.

How hard is it to just ignore his bullshit?

kccrow
02-28-2017, 05:59 PM
How are we set up to be dog shit?

You do realize that once we rid ourselves of Alex, Dustin, Tamba, and DJ's contracts we will be in good shape cap wise with a talented roster still, right? I don't see what the big deal is. If we draft a QB will you still feel that way?

Terrible take man.

You don't spend that kind of money on safeties. Corners. Pass Rushers. Quarterbacks. Tackles. Those are your money guys. I seriously don't think Berry is worth it. Not even a bit. But eh... its whatever.

Until this team does get a franchise QB, I really don't give a fuck either way. Alex is shit and until that changes, the results will be shit. Give Berry 100 million, won't change shit.

kccrow
02-28-2017, 05:59 PM
Why don't you cry about it?

How about you suck my fat fucking cock?

Renegade
02-28-2017, 06:08 PM
So it begins. I just got an email from the Chiefs stating a long term deal for Eric has been signed. At the end of the email was.........become a season ticket holder today

Mav
02-28-2017, 06:19 PM
Great signing. Great player and Better person.


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The Bad Guy
02-28-2017, 06:26 PM
Clark cut a massive check up front to keep those cap hits low goodness

whoever says now Clark is cheap is a just a flat out liar

They've been a flat out liar for a long time.

Clark Hunt spends money on this team. If he doesn't spend it the way some want, they label him cheap, which is fucking laughable.

TEX
02-28-2017, 06:32 PM
They've been a flat out liar for a long time.

Clark Hunt spends money on this team. If he doesn't spend it the way some want, they label him cheap, which is ****ing laughable.

This

Chief Roundup
02-28-2017, 06:37 PM
Can you guys flush this tiger turd, please?

The guy ruins every thread he posts in with violations of the TOS.

I don't like or agree with his takes but how has he violated the TOS?
Why aren't you reporting it to the mods instead of posting, bitching, about it?

cabletech94
02-28-2017, 06:52 PM
i miss the old thread that wasn't made by the denver fan who must not be named.......

Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 06:55 PM
I don't like or agree with his takes but how has he violated the TOS?
Why aren't you reporting it to the mods instead of posting, bitching, about it?
This ^

I reported spam once and the mods basically told me to fuck off.

Unless you are spamming pr0n or something they don't care.

put the poster on iggy and move on

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 07:01 PM
This ^

I reported spam once and the mods basically told me to fuck off.

Unless you are spamming pr0n or something they don't care.

put the poster on iggy and move on this isn't true.


But seriously if guys think he's doing something wrong let the kids know.

Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 07:11 PM
this isn't true.


But seriously if guys think he's doing something wrong let the kids know.
I don't think he's doing anything wrong.

Repeating the same thing over and over again isn't considered spam around here.

I know this because I reported spam posts 2 or 3 times and got my report button taken away. Also had my sig altered to send me a message to shut the fuck up about it.

Since I doubt just any regular mod could alter board to take a report button away, this had to come through Daface and/or AustionChief. So I'll take it that this is the official stance of CPlanet.

Go ahead, tell me which part isn't true.

Nickhead
02-28-2017, 07:15 PM
I don't think he's doing anything wrong.

Repeating the same thing over and over again isn't considered spam around here.

I know this because I reported spam posts 2 or 3 times and got my report button taken away. Also had my sig altered to send me a message to shut the fuck up about it.

Since I doubt just any regular mod could alter board to take a report button away, this had to come through Daface and/or AustionChief. So I'll take it that this is the official stance of CPlanet.

Go ahead, tell me which part isn't true.

sorry, i had to giggle at the 'got my report button taken away'. just the wording is like hearing 'why didn't you call', 'got my phone taken away'. :toast:

albeit it may be funny at times, editing someones profile unless it was to remove something offensive, isn't 'cool'. like i always say, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. :D

SAUTO
02-28-2017, 07:16 PM
I don't think he's doing anything wrong.

Repeating the same thing over and over again isn't considered spam around here.

I know this because I reported spam posts 2 or 3 times and got my report button taken away. Also had my sig altered to send me a message to shut the fuck up about it.

Since I doubt just any regular mod could alter board to take a report button away, this had to come through Daface and/or AustionChief. So I'll take it that this is the official stance of CPlanet.

Go ahead, tell me which part isn't true.

Well you almost corrected the inaccurate part that I was talking about in this post. Almost.

I don't know about the rest.

BossChief
02-28-2017, 07:23 PM
How hard is it to just ignore his bullshit?

I ignore him, but the responses to his trolling derail all of the good conversations on here.

BossChief
02-28-2017, 07:33 PM
They've been a flat out liar for a long time.

Clark Hunt spends money on this team. If he doesn't spend it the way some want, they label him cheap, which is ****ing laughable.

Exactly. Been saying this for over 10 years.

Marcellus
02-28-2017, 07:41 PM
Exactly. Been saying this for over 10 years.

Ahem.

I think we have some business to discuss. :D

redfan
02-28-2017, 07:51 PM
I like this kid. If he sticks with it, he could really amount to something in this league.

DaFace
02-28-2017, 08:12 PM
Since I doubt just any regular mod could alter board to take a report button away, this had to come through Daface and/or AustionChief. So I'll take it that this is the official stance of CPlanet.

There's a usergroup in place to take away the report button. Any mod can do it.

KChiefs1
02-28-2017, 08:19 PM
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/outkick-the-show-with-clay-travis/id705029632?mt=2#episodeGuid=gid%3A%2F%2Fart19-episode-locator%2FV0%2FqIEqSIwJeZS6Xz6UQzO4x3ZMJkIUcFeDVeq_0ER0mS8





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Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 08:19 PM
There's a usergroup in place to take away the report button. Any mod can do it.
I stand corrected.

Thanks

Mr. Laz
02-28-2017, 08:20 PM
sorry, i had to giggle at the 'got my report button taken away'. just the wording is like hearing 'why didn't you call', 'got my phone taken away'. :toast:

albeit it may be funny at times, editing someones profile unless it was to remove something offensive, isn't 'cool'. like i always say, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. :D:toast:

Bowser
02-28-2017, 09:33 PM
I don't think he's doing anything wrong.

Repeating the same thing over and over again isn't considered spam around here.

I know this because I reported spam posts 2 or 3 times and got my report button taken away. Also had my sig altered to send me a message to shut the fuck up about it.

Since I doubt just any regular mod could alter board to take a report button away, this had to come through Daface and/or AustionChief. So I'll take it that this is the official stance of CPlanet.

Go ahead, tell me which part isn't true.

You weren't reporting spam, though. Essentially you were reporting a gif that was pissing you off, just like that gif of the true fans getting chubs over the Fisher selection pissed you off. That's not spam, no matter how wadded up your panties got because of it.

BossChief
02-28-2017, 09:57 PM
Think of this...

Berry will have made almost 140 million dollars playing safety once this contract runs out.

50 on rookie deal (largest ever for a safety at the time)
11 on franchise
78 in new money (largest ever for a safety)

-King-
03-01-2017, 03:37 AM
How hard is it to just ignore his bullshit?
You must be new to CP. People on this forum are incapable of ignoring people they supposedly don't like.
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Red Dawg
03-01-2017, 05:48 AM
It's a terrible deal for KC. Over paid bad but honestly who cares. We have a sorry ass QB so may as well pay somebody.

Direckshun
03-01-2017, 08:50 AM
After the LDT contract, this is all just ****ing whatever to me. Sign checks to whomever. Let's go be dogshit for 10 more years.

LMAO

Hammock Parties
03-01-2017, 08:55 AM
Think of this...

Berry will have made almost 140 million dollars playing safety once this contract runs out.

50 on rookie deal (largest ever for a safety at the time)
11 on franchise
78 in new money (largest ever for a safety)

That's a lot of dough in KC.

I bet he stays around here and opens a restaurant or something.

Or maybe just a fucking high-end fruit shop.

"Eric's Berries."

Actually he he could probably start the first "Berry's Gym" and make a shitload of cash just off name alone, and eventually go chain. With NFL training routines for "hardcore fitness elites." $$$$$$$$$$

SDChiefs
03-01-2017, 09:37 AM
If ESPN put up a national poll or expert committee poll I guarantee you Kam Chancellor or Earl Thomas would haul in at least twice the votes Berry does. The people on here who don't watch football outside of KC continue to show their ignorance.

False. Everybody I know thinks Berry is the best. Or at least top 3. Kam is not even in the discussion.

ThaVirus
03-01-2017, 09:50 AM
He's one of the best. Like the argument for most other positions, there's no stranglehold on the #1 spot.

I think David Johnson is the best RB but you really can't go wrong with him, Zeke, or Leveon. I think Julio is the best receiver but you really can't go wrong with him, AB, AJ Green or OBJ. It's much the same for safety. Earl Thomas, Kam, Berry, Harrison Smith, etc. You could probably make a legit argument for either of them being the best.

But one thing you can't argue against is the fact that Berry has proven himself the most versatile of the bunch. He's made All-Pro as an in-the-box SS and as a primarily single-high FS. That's pretty impressive.

scho63
03-01-2017, 11:14 AM
Hopefully Eric Berry doesn't start taking up a liking to Sonic !

Mr. Laz
03-01-2017, 11:55 AM
False. Everybody I know thinks Berry is the best. Or at least top 3. Kam is not even in the discussion.

You're wrong.

Kam is just a different sort of safety. He dramatically impacts the game like Davis for the Panthers. Kam is probably the best hammer in the game at the safety position. Seattle has a great combination, Earl Thomas is a true centerfielder and Kam is a true SS hammer.

Eric Berry is a hybrid

The Franchise
03-01-2017, 11:56 AM
You're wrong.

Kam is just a different sort of safety. He dramatically impacts the game like Davis for the Panthers. Kam is probably the best hammer in the game at the safety position. Seattle has a great combination, Earl Thomas is a true centerfielder and Kam is a true SS hammer.

Eric Berry is a hybrid

He's wrong about what everyone HE knows has said?

Mr. Laz
03-01-2017, 12:01 PM
He's wrong about what everyone HE knows has said?
No, i disagree with his opinion that Kam is not even in the discussion.

I read that as meaning that he does think that Kam is even in the discussion of being the best, not all his friends. :shrug:


btw why is this even worth arguing about? Are you bored?

The Franchise
03-01-2017, 12:14 PM
No, i disagree with his opinion that Kam is not even in the discussion.

I read that as meaning that he does think that Kam is even in the discussion of being the best, not all his friends. :shrug:


btw why is this even worth arguing about? Are you bored?

Isn't it obvious.

SAUTO
03-01-2017, 12:15 PM
No, i disagree with his opinion that Kam is not even in the discussion.

I read that as meaning that he does think that Kam is even in the discussion of being the best, not all his friends. :shrug:


btw why is this even worth arguing about? Are you bored?

ROFL looks like you were the one who started arguing about it, are YOU bored?

go bo
03-01-2017, 06:38 PM
Quoting Pestilence just because I love him and Tiger hates him.

<3 Pesty

me too...

oh crap, i quoted the wrong person! :banghead:

Nightfyre
03-01-2017, 06:51 PM
me too...

oh crap, i quoted the wrong person! :banghead:

What will Pest do without all the escalades? He is now less valid for your mistake. Quantifiably so.

SDChiefs
03-01-2017, 08:04 PM
You're wrong.

Kam is just a different sort of safety. He dramatically impacts the game like Davis for the Panthers. Kam is probably the best hammer in the game at the safety position. Seattle has a great combination, Earl Thomas is a true centerfielder and Kam is a true SS hammer.

Eric Berry is a hybrid

The only time I see Kam in the discussion is on chiefs planet. Unless you want to go back a couple of years. Thomas, yes. Matthieu, yes. Kam, not in the discussion. Do I think he's bad? No. But in discussion for best safety? Hell no.

Demonpenz
03-02-2017, 02:38 AM
Glad to see he got a raise. I know he was really struggling for money there for awhile.

R8RFAN
03-02-2017, 05:48 AM
How much money do the Cheaps have left?

MotherfuckerJones
03-02-2017, 09:43 AM
How much money do the Cheaps have left?

More than enough

BossChief
03-02-2017, 10:08 AM
When you draft as well as Dorsey does, it doesn't matter how much cap space KC has.

There is always someone ready to step up and that's a credit to the ability John Dorsey has to identify talent and fill the whole roster with quality players with rare traits.

temper11
03-02-2017, 10:25 AM
They've been a flat out liar for a long time.

Clark Hunt spends money on this team. If he doesn't spend it the way some want, they label him cheap, which is ****ing laughable.

This. I've never understood the claim of "Hunt's Cheap". Seems to pay the players his football minds tell him to pay. Not sure what else you could want in an owner.

BossChief
03-02-2017, 10:43 AM
This. I've never understood the claim of "Hunt's Cheap". Seems to pay the players his football minds tell him to pay. Not sure what else you could want in an owner.

And he has spent TONS of cash to walk away from bad directions of the franchise and has always tried to put the best possible guys in the jobs that are important.

Dorsry was highly sought after for a long time in GB and Hunt got him in KC.

Andy Reid was the best available coach on the market in 2013 and Hunt went out and hired him.

It's arguable that Scott Pioli was the most sought after GM prospect in the league for a couple years and it was huge when Hunt hired him....it didn't work out, but at least he went out and paid top dollar to try to win.

Hunt has written a lot of HUGE checks, too....so that Dorsry can maneuver the cap however he wants and give guys like Eric Berry 78million dollar deals with a 5m cap hit year 1.

Same with Houston's, LDT, Kelce and other big deals Dorsey has signed guys to.

Hunt has been a terrific owner that took over a very old roster with an aging GM that was no longer effective...and has transformed it into one of the best franchises in football.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-02-2017, 10:51 AM
Think about this.....

In 2018, the releases of Alex Smith, Derrick Johnson, and Tamba Hali would add $32M to the cap. Holy shit.

I know that's easier said than done, especially with all-time guys like Hali and DJ, but we would have around $44M to spend after those moves, including Berry and LDT's new deal. The defense would still have Houston, Berry, Peters, Ford, Jones, etc. The offense would need to have Alex's replacement ready, which they should.

BossChief
03-02-2017, 11:04 AM
They aren't gonna cut Alex Smith next offseason.

They will trade him or let him play out the last year of his deal and get a comp pick in 2020.

We should get a third for Poe next draft...I wonder who walks next offseason to give us our annual third round comp pick...

Hammock Parties
03-02-2017, 11:10 AM
The offense would need to have Alex's replacement ready, which they should.

HAHAHAHAHA

What a lovely little fantasy.

It's almost time for that extension folks!

dj56dt58
03-02-2017, 11:17 AM
Not sure having the NFL's highest paid safety and overpaying an average guard are steps to becoming a Super Bowl team. :rolleyes:

I agree. Love Berry, but this D has shown it can plug and play at the safety position.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-02-2017, 01:22 PM
They aren't gonna cut Alex Smith next offseason.

They will trade him or let him play out the last year of his deal and get a comp pick in 2020.

We should get a third for Poe next draft...I wonder who walks next offseason to give us our annual third round comp pick...

Well, to let him stay in 2018 would be retarded if they have a capable starter ready. Saves $17M on the cap to release.

I don't see anyone trading for that.

HemiEd
03-02-2017, 07:40 PM
Can you guys flush this tiger turd, please?

The guy ruins every thread he posts in with violations of the TOS.

He was being quoted by so many it was like he wasn't even on ignore.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-02-2017, 07:51 PM
If Tigger hates the deal, then it's a good deal.

I encourage SAUTO to continue in his Tigger-killing ways.

Amen.

DaFace
03-02-2017, 08:04 PM
Dorsey said in his press conference today that they had an in-person, 10-hour meeting to hash out the contract. Man...that would be intense.

Urc Burry
03-02-2017, 08:10 PM
Not sure if this was posted... but this is fucking awesome
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Y&#39;all boys ready?&quot; ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/Stuntman1429">@Stuntman1429</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/y5FVa5IKzm">pic.twitter.com/y5FVa5IKzm</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/836765221821812738">March 1, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RippedmyFlesh
03-03-2017, 12:05 AM
Until we get a franchise qb Berry is the leader of this team. We had to sign him and I am glad we did. In todays pass happy nfl safety is more important than it used to be.

WhiteWhale
03-03-2017, 09:33 AM
How many people are against this move?

Cos probably 90% of you were against extending Berry a few months ago and had no trouble putting the screws to those who said otherwise, and this contract is even bigger than the anticipated one.

RealSNR
03-03-2017, 12:53 PM
How many people are against this move?

Cos probably 90% of you were against extending Berry a few months ago and had no trouble putting the screws to those who said otherwise, and this contract is even bigger than the anticipated one.


We overpaid definitely, but that was the price. If Berry plays like he did last year throughout the life of the deal, I won't give a shit about the money

Fish
03-03-2017, 02:09 PM
How many people are against this move?

Cos probably 90% of you were against extending Berry a few months ago and had no trouble putting the screws to those who said otherwise, and this contract is even bigger than the anticipated one.

I'm actually still very leery about this deal. I think Berry's inspirational story along with some spectacular but normally undependable pick6es this season made us pay way too much. You have to give him credit for playing for a contract though, he managed to almost single handedly win several games this year.

Mr. Laz
03-03-2017, 04:59 PM
Until we get a franchise qb Berry is the leader of this team. We had to sign him and I am glad we did. In todays pass happy nfl safety is more important than it used to be.
Only on CP would even a safety signing lead to QB complaints.

Easy 6
03-03-2017, 05:12 PM
Glad this is done, we didnt need it dragging into camp and preseason... we overpaid because he isnt the best safety in the NFL, but he is a top 3-5 guy and his contributions here go beyond the field

Top player + emotional leader = worth overpaying a little bit