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Direckshun
03-01-2017, 03:33 PM
Let's party.

Direckshun
03-01-2017, 03:37 PM
Notable measurements so far among the RBs:

Tarik Cohen of North Carolina A&T could be a sleeper. This guy is very small (5'6", 179), but Tyreek Hill will be enticing teams to draft him if he's very fast. He's got very big hands for a small dude.

Leonard Fournette (LSU) comes in huge at 6'1", 240 lbs.

Samaje Perine (OU) continues to entice me the most at 5'11", 233 lbs, with 10" hands.

Brian Hill (Wyoming) is tall at 6'1", that will scare teams off a bit.

Tons of bellcows this year. Lots of RBs over 220 lbs.

Direckshun
03-01-2017, 03:42 PM
34" arms or longer among the OL:

Jerry Ugokwe (William & Mary)
Sam Tevi (Utah)
Garett Bolles (Utah)
Justin Senior (Mississippi State)
Ben Braden (Michigan)
Dion Dawkins (Temple)
Kyle Fuller (Baylor)
Dorian Johnson (Pittsburgh)
Javarius Leamon (South Carolina State)
Damien Mama (USC)
Conor McDermott (UCLA)
Jordan Morgan (Kutztown)
Taylor Moton (Western Michigan)
Cam Robinson (Alabama)
David Sharpe (Florida)

36"+ arms (!!!):

Julie'n Davenport (Bucknell)
Roderick Johnson (Florida State)

Direckshun
03-01-2017, 03:43 PM
And yes, you saw correctly, OL Dan Skipper of Arkansas came in at 6'10".

Wow.

Only has 33" arms, though.

Chiefshrink
03-01-2017, 07:18 PM
Tons of bellcows this year. Lots of RBs over 220 lbs.

Which will be interesting to see if many of these guys will still play that heavy since the Leveon Bell situation.

Rain Man
03-01-2017, 11:43 PM
Julie'n Davenport (Bucknell)


Are these conjoined twins? And is it Julie or Davenport who was invited to the combine?

Now that I think about it, how would the NFL handle conjoined twins? Would they count as one person on the field or two? Would it depend on how many legs they have?

crazycoffey
03-01-2017, 11:48 PM
Columbine time. Time to get interested in football again. I hope I can find something to get interested in

Buehler445
03-02-2017, 07:38 AM
Columbine time. Time to get interested in football again. I hope I can find something to get interested in

Ummmmm.....

Like....

You're not planning on shooting up the place are you?

Direckshun
03-02-2017, 09:19 AM
Louis Riddick
@LRiddickESPN

DeShone Kizer 6042 233
9 7/8 hand

Louis Riddick
@LRiddickESPN

Mitch Trubisky 6021 222
9 4/8 hand

Louis Riddick
@LRiddickESPN

Deshaun Watson 6024 221
9 6/8 hand

Louis Riddick‏
@LRiddickESPN

Pat Mahomes 6020 225
9 2/8 hand

Sandy Vagina
03-02-2017, 07:13 PM
NFL Scouting Combine 2017 player measurement tracker

http://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/nfl-scouting-combine-2017-player-measurement-tracker/

RunKC
03-02-2017, 10:03 PM
It's gonna be awesome watching the RB's tomorrow

Rooster
03-03-2017, 09:24 AM
Notable measurements so far among the RBs:

Tarik Cohen of North Carolina A&T could be a sleeper. This guy is very small (5'6", 179), but Tyreek Hill will be enticing teams to draft him if he's very fast. He's got very big hands for a small dude.

Leonard Fournette (LSU) comes in huge at 6'1", 240 lbs.

Samaje Perine (OU) continues to entice me the most at 5'11", 233 lbs, with 10" hands.

Brian Hill (Wyoming) is tall at 6'1", that will scare teams off a bit.

Tons of bellcows this year. Lots of RBs over 220 lbs.

Damn. That's a big dude. I didn't realize he was that big.

RunKC
03-03-2017, 09:50 AM
#Wisconsin LB TJ Watt measured 6-4 1/2, 252 pounds, 11 inch hands, 33 1/8 arms, 78 7/8 wingspan. #NFLCombine

11 inch hands? Jaysus

The Franchise
03-03-2017, 10:18 AM
#Wisconsin LB TJ Watt measured 6-4 1/2, 252 pounds, 11 inch hands, 33 1/8 arms, 78 7/8 wingspan. #NFLCombine

11 inch hands? Jaysus

Dude is going to end up going in the back half of the first.

Hammock Parties
03-03-2017, 12:32 PM
4.51 at 240 pounds for Leonard Fournette.

KChiefs1
03-03-2017, 12:37 PM
I really like Kamara.


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staylor26
03-03-2017, 12:43 PM
Yea I'm warming up to Kamara in the 1st more and more

The Franchise
03-03-2017, 12:46 PM
Yea I'm warming up to Kamara in the 1st more and more

I had a premonition that we'd be taking him in the 1st.

staylor26
03-03-2017, 12:48 PM
I had a premonition that we'd be taking him in the 1st.

He just feels like a talent Dorsey will see as a bit of a steal at 27 due to the position being stacked.

staylor26
03-03-2017, 12:48 PM
TJ Logan just ran a sub 4.4

Really nice sleeper

The Franchise
03-03-2017, 12:52 PM
TJ Logan just ran a sub 4.4

Really nice sleeper

And put up 18 on the bench. McCaffery is fucking overrated. 4.49 and only 10 reps.

KChiefs1
03-03-2017, 12:56 PM
And put up 18 on the bench. McCaffery is fucking overrated. 4.49 and only 10 reps.



Just say no to McCaffery.



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WhawhaWhat
03-03-2017, 01:04 PM
4.51 at 240 pounds for Leonard Fournette.

Leonard Fournette: I Didn't Get Fat, That Was Just Water Weight (http://deadspin.com/leonard-fournette-i-didnt-get-fat-that-was-just-water-1792936154)

Former LSU running back Leonard Fournette weighed in at 240 pounds at this year’s NFL combine, making him the heaviest running back in the draft class. Evaluators were apparently expecting Fournette to weigh a little less, but he eased their minds at a post-weigh-in press conference.

Fournette told reporters that he had expected to weigh 235 pounds, and that the extra five pounds was owed to drinking too much water. “I drank a lot of water before I weighed in,” said Fournette. “So it was water weight. It went away completely.”

Fournette is one of the best players in the draft and is projected to go somewhere in the top five. We look forward to seeing him in training camp, at which point he can join the long NFL tradition of having unflattering photos lead to speculation about whether or not he is indeed fat.

ct
03-03-2017, 01:34 PM
Leonard Fournette: I Didn't Get Fat, That Was Just Water Weight (http://deadspin.com/leonard-fournette-i-didnt-get-fat-that-was-just-water-1792936154)

what is he diluting the UA sample?

RunKC
03-03-2017, 01:38 PM
Eric Bienemy out there doing the drills. We get a first hand look

KChiefs1
03-03-2017, 01:51 PM
These QB's suck.


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O.city
03-03-2017, 02:49 PM
I dunno, McCaffrey looks pretty smooth. Catches it well also.

Mr_Tomahawk
03-03-2017, 03:54 PM
Just say no to McCaffery.



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Yeah okay...





<blockquoteclass="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As if Christian McCaffrey&#39;s day couldn&#39;t get any better he also ran a 6.57 3-Cone. The 2nd fastest by an RB at the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash">#NFLCombine</a> since 2003.</p>&mdash; Evan Lazar (@ezlazar) <a href="https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/837781025191149568">March 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script asyncsrc="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city
03-03-2017, 04:31 PM
So, yeah, I would take him at 27. He looked good as a wr as well.

KChiefs1
03-03-2017, 05:48 PM
https://youtu.be/p8qYqdOsbGI








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RunKC
03-03-2017, 06:19 PM
So, yeah, I would take him at 27. He looked good as a wr as well.

Why? Tyreek Hill is the same player, but much faster.

I just don't get the love for drafting this kid. We need a true RB that can pound the ball up the middle between the tackles.

McCaffrey reminds me a lot of DAT.

RippedmyFlesh
03-03-2017, 07:55 PM
No way they are taking a rb/gadget guy in the 1st. They can get a good back in the 3-4th rounds. Positional value. Mc is no Elliot.

O.city
03-03-2017, 08:09 PM
Why? Tyreek Hill is the same player, but much faster.

I just don't get the love for drafting this kid. We need a true RB that can pound the ball up the middle between the tackles.

McCaffrey reminds me a lot of DAT.

Why can't McCaffrey run between the tackles? He did at Stanford.

As Constructed, Ware is your bruiser. McCaffrey can be a true rb or a true slot wr.

O.city
03-03-2017, 08:32 PM
5'11 202 pounds, ran a 4.48 and had the fastest 3 cone in a years.

I don't see why he couldn't do it all at rb

Willie Lanier
03-03-2017, 09:06 PM
No way they are taking a rb/gadget guy in the 1st. They can get a good back in the 3-4th rounds. Positional value. Mc is no Elliot.

Agreed

Sandy Vagina
03-03-2017, 09:31 PM
^ agreed. McC for KC at #27 is hilarious.

Hey! move em to WR! JMac, Hill. and Conley? **** em... bump one off to put McC at WR3, yeah!

Use him at RB! Spencer Ware? who? **** him... he can have 5 carries of the 15 total that Andy wants!

1st round pick!

:facepalm:

Sandy Vagina
03-03-2017, 09:59 PM
a better source for times, measurements, etc, imo

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017-nfl-scouting-combine-results-tracker/

Rain Man
03-03-2017, 11:48 PM
The variation in coordination among offensive linemen is quite intriguing. Some guys look like athletes, and a few of them seem really uncoordinated and awkward.

What would we think if the Chiefs drafted Forrest Lamp? I'm hearing that he could be late-first round material as a guard, and he would slot in to really take the OL up another notch.

BryanBusby
03-03-2017, 11:50 PM
I'd wonder if Parker Ehringer has aids, if Lamp were the pick.

Rain Man
03-04-2017, 12:03 AM
I'd wonder if Parker Ehringer has aids, if Lamp were the pick.

I guess I keep forgetting about him. He was a mid-round rookie who missed most of the season, so I don't feel like he should have a starting spot locked down.

BryanBusby
03-04-2017, 12:10 AM
I think at this point you have to really consider if Lamp is comparable to other first round Guards in terms of skill and upside, or he's being inflated for not being trash in a year of trash offensive line class.

I'd tend to lean towards the later.

Sandy Vagina
03-04-2017, 01:25 AM
The variation in coordination among offensive linemen is quite intriguing. Some guys look like athletes, and a few of them seem really uncoordinated and awkward.

What would we think if the Chiefs drafted Forrest Lamp? I'm hearing that he could be late-first round material as a guard, and he would slot in to really take the OL up another notch.

Hard to see Ehinger so easily usurped.. but the truth is.. can we straight-faced say that he should be considered irreplaceable? :shake:

Would be a move to make the OL strong as all ****. Can't say it is the right move, and not more of a luxury... but if KC is going offense.. and non-QB.. well then.. still don't love it (even if it protects my boo).. but...

Coogs
03-04-2017, 07:48 AM
QB's on this morning. About 15 minutes from now. WR's and TE's too.

Hammock Parties
03-04-2017, 08:33 AM
4.45 at 6-3 219 for Robert Davis

KChiefs1
03-04-2017, 09:43 AM
I'd think WR would be lower on our list of needs.


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Hammock Parties
03-04-2017, 11:38 AM
4.22 for John Ross

KChiefs1
03-04-2017, 11:39 AM
Faster than Tyreek.


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Hammock Parties
03-04-2017, 11:47 AM
There's no way he ran a 4.22....looks like closer to 4.3

RunKC
03-04-2017, 11:58 AM
The guy jumped 11'1". Dayum

Quesadilla Joe
03-04-2017, 12:01 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who is John Ross?<br><br>&quot;A clean Tyreek Hill&quot; - NFL WR Coach to me just now</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/838086547316572161">March 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Hoover
03-04-2017, 12:06 PM
Thats fine, I'll keep Hill

O.city
03-04-2017, 12:20 PM
Let's draft him too

Quesadilla Joe
03-04-2017, 12:56 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watson is effortlessly having a big time workout.</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/838100477820747776">March 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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RunKC
03-04-2017, 01:06 PM
Davis Webb looks terrible. Wtf do these scouts see in him?

Sfeihc
03-04-2017, 01:23 PM
Ross made it look so easy. Amazing.

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KChiefs1
03-04-2017, 01:36 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who is John Ross?<br><br>&quot;A clean Tyreek Hill&quot; - NFL WR Coach to me just now</p>— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/838086547316572161">March 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Damn...that's quite a compliment.



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KChiefs1
03-04-2017, 01:40 PM
Chris Conley still has the broad jump record at 11'7".




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SAUTO
03-04-2017, 01:44 PM
Damn...that's quite a compliment.



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I'd still rather have hill in the 5th

Urc Burry
03-04-2017, 02:26 PM
Chris Conley still has the broad jump record at 11'7".




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I thought Byron Jones broke that

RunKC
03-04-2017, 03:14 PM
TE's are dominating. All these guys are freaks...we have to get one.

RunKC
03-04-2017, 03:17 PM
NFL Research

The 2017 tight end class averaged a 40-yard dash time of 4.66 seconds, fastest among any TE group at the combine since 2003

Yup. Draft our #2 TE. GTFO Demetrius Harris

NIUhuskies
03-04-2017, 03:19 PM
Kenny Golladay the WR from NIU caught everything in sight. 6'4" 220, ran a 4.47 and 35.5 in vert and 18 bench reps. He may have moved up to the 3rd round after today

RunKC
03-04-2017, 03:26 PM
Joe Marino

TE Verticals
Evan Engram 36
OJ Howard 30
David Njoku 37.5
Adam Shaheen 32.5
Bucky Hodges 39
Jonnu Smith 38
Jordan Leggett 33

Holy shit

O.city
03-05-2017, 10:55 AM
Reddick ran a 4.5 something. Really fluid

O.city
03-05-2017, 10:59 AM
And he broad jumped 11 1. Damn

RunKC
03-05-2017, 11:26 AM
There will be some a damn good pass rusher there in rd 2 and I hope we take them.

BryanBusby
03-05-2017, 12:05 PM
41" vertical for Garrett

Ridic

Chiefshrink
03-05-2017, 12:46 PM
The variation in coordination among offensive linemen is quite intriguing. Some guys look like athletes, and a few of them seem really uncoordinated and awkward.

What would we think if the Chiefs drafted Forrest Lamp? I'm hearing that he could be late-first round material as a guard, and he would slot in to really take the OL up another notch.

Loved Lamp and that kid Cooper at guard. Cooper was impressive in his drills. Very quick, strong, great feet and excellent technique.

KChiefs1
03-05-2017, 12:48 PM
Reddick ran a 4.5 something. Really fluid



Made some money today.



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Coach
03-05-2017, 12:52 PM
Jordan Willis

39" vertical.

40: 4.53 - 2nd place for DL.

10 split: 1.58 - Best for DL.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
03-05-2017, 01:53 PM
Holy shit, Myles Garrett

6'4.5" 272
4.64
41" vertical
33 Reps with 35 inch arms.

O.city
03-05-2017, 01:55 PM
Carl Lawson with a crazy 3 cone. I'd like him in kc

O.city
03-05-2017, 02:17 PM
Pardon me, short shuttle. His 3 cone sucked

Quesadilla Joe
03-05-2017, 04:04 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked a lot of GMs and scouts this at the combine. Many predict Joe Mixon gets taken in Round 2 or 3. <a href="https://t.co/6mkuRgXClp">https://t.co/6mkuRgXClp</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/838509291216715778">March 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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RunKC
03-05-2017, 04:16 PM
Jordan Willis had a faster 10 yard split than Mack, Von and Clowney. Damn that man made $$ today

Mr. Laz
03-05-2017, 05:12 PM
We need to strengthen the middle of our defense.
Jabrill Peppers could help do that


1st - SS Jabrill Peppers
2nd - LB Raekwon McMillan

BryanBusby
03-05-2017, 05:46 PM
That sound like an awful plan.

Bowser
03-05-2017, 06:22 PM
We need to strengthen the middle of our defense.
Jabrill Peppers could help do that


1st - SS Jabrill Peppers
2nd - LB Raekwon McMillan

Yeah, no

Sandy Vagina
03-05-2017, 06:29 PM
We need to strengthen the middle of our defense.
Jabrill Peppers could help do that


1st - SS Jabrill Peppers
2nd - LB Raekwon McMillan

:hmmm:

An odd plan, coming off of the obvious Berry situation... no?

RunKC
03-05-2017, 06:43 PM
It's kind of puzzling who our 1st rd pick could be. Mahomes, Watson, Reddick will all be gone by the late teens at most.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we took someone like Charles Harris at 27.

Mr. Laz
03-05-2017, 06:51 PM
:hmmm:

An odd plan, coming off of the obvious Berry situation... no?
Peppers is a SS/LB and Berry is a FS

Peppers would replace Ron Parker and/or Eric Murray

Unless you think that Eric Murray is going to blow up then Peppers is a big upgrade at SS. Our run defense suffered when we move Berry back to FS, this would solve that issue.

LB McMillan would help shore up the middle of our D as well.

Dante84
03-05-2017, 07:05 PM
Jordan Willis had a faster 10 yard split than Mack, Von and Clowney. Damn that man made $$ today

I keep seeing him get knocked for not being able to turn the corner. His straight line speed is elite, but a lot of prognosticators seem to think he isn't good enough at collapsing the pocket from the side.

Sandy Vagina
03-05-2017, 07:13 PM
Peppers is a SS/LB and Berry is a FS

Peppers would replace Ron Parker and/or Eric Murray

Unless you think that Eric Murray is going to blow up then Peppers is a big upgrade at SS. Our run defense suffered when we move Berry back to FS, this would solve that issue.

LB McMillan would help shore up the middle of our D as well.

Ok.

I don't really feel that the third level of defense was the problem for the opposing rush. I think Ron Parker and Berry are very good starters... which explains my confusion for your post. I think they are sufficiently interchangeable. McMillan's ok, but I'm not at all convinced he's any better than the options we already have.

Bowser
03-05-2017, 07:37 PM
If we go defense with our round 1, I want an edge rusher.

Sandy Vagina
03-05-2017, 07:46 PM
If we go defense with our round 1, I want an edge rusher.

no trust of Houston ever getting healthy? preparing for life without Ford? or... both?

I'd like to see a day 2 edge rusher added.

RealSNR
03-05-2017, 07:56 PM
no trust of Houston ever getting healthy? preparing for life without Ford? or... both?

I'd like to see a day 2 edge rusher added.

Ford had a great start to the year and then disappeared.

In the instance that Houston is not healthy or that Ford isn't all that he's cracked up to be, it'd be great to have that 3rd guy.

Right now that job is still falling to Tamba, and that's no bueno.

Bowser
03-05-2017, 08:23 PM
no trust of Houston ever getting healthy? preparing for life without Ford? or... both?

I'd like to see a day 2 edge rusher added.

A little of both, but I'd say more to do with Ford. I don't trust in him to be a week in week out difference maker, and I think that affects his status with us as he gets to the end of his contract. Now, if Houston comes back ready to go and they move him to Hali's spot to give Ford the left side (the side he's looked far and away better at), then I have the right to change my mind. That's a lot of "ifs", though.

Bowser
03-05-2017, 08:25 PM
Ford had a great start to the year and then disappeared.

In the instance that Houston is not healthy or that Ford isn't all that he's cracked up to be, it'd be great to have that 3rd guy.

Right now that job is still falling to Tamba, and that's no bueno.

Right now Zombo is a better option than Hali as a starter, and I say that loving Hali. Tamba is just done, unfortunately. He should be used as a pass rusher on third down exclusively, imo. He doesn't have it in him to be an every down linebacker, even a two down linebacker.

Mr. Laz
03-05-2017, 08:31 PM
If we go defense with our round 1, I want an edge rusher.

Certainly a possibility if a good one falls.


Peppers is an elite talent but might fall because he's a tweener.

A tweener that will fit our system really well.

Mr. Laz
03-05-2017, 08:34 PM
Ok.

I don't really feel that the third level of defense was the problem for the opposing rush. I think Ron Parker and Berry are very good starters... which explains my confusion for your post. I think they are sufficiently interchangeable. McMillan's ok, but I'm not at all convinced he's any better than the options we already have.
I just disagree about Ron Parker being very good.

Parker is a poor tackler and that doesn't work at SS imo. Towards the end of the year, Ron Parker was more or less moved to slot corner. He is not really a SS and our run defense showed it.

Berry - FS
Peppers - SS (Day 1 starter imo)
Parker - left at Safety/Slot coverage in Sutton's weird multiple safety schemes

Just one possibility

Of course, if a Pass Rusher falls that would be of more value. You always include positional value into your selection.

RunKC
03-05-2017, 08:55 PM
I like Peppers but I don't think we'll take him. Sorenson did really well in coverage and Berry is a SS along with Murray.
Seems like they can get by with good production there from less valued resources.

IMO we need to attack the LB's if a QB isn't available and there are some beasts out there. Cunningham, Davis, Reddick at ILB, Harris Willis, Watt at OLB.

I think the run problems were mostly due to poor ILB play and the pass rush being an issue for 2 years has been a huge problem.

I also think it fits great. CB and S are really deep this year.

BryanBusby
03-05-2017, 11:23 PM
Peppers is a SS/LB and Berry is a FS

Peppers would replace Ron Parker and/or Eric Murray

Unless you think that Eric Murray is going to blow up then Peppers is a big upgrade at SS. Our run defense suffered when we move Berry back to FS, this would solve that issue.

LB McMillan would help shore up the middle of our D as well.
That sounds like a lot of work when the Chiefs are just fine with a Parker and Berry S duo.

McMillan is going to be a guy that's better suited for a 4 DL kind of Defense.

spanky 52
03-06-2017, 07:18 AM
ILB Reddick. Blew up the Senior Bowl, great combine numbers. Gotta think he's at the top of Dorseys list.

philfree
03-06-2017, 07:52 AM
ILB Reddick. Blew up the Senior Bowl, great combine numbers. Gotta think he's at the top of Dorseys list.

Yes he did. He seems like a good fit for the Chiefs as an ILB who can also rush the passer. Would not be upset with that but this draft is so deep on defense that there could an outstanding edge player available when we pick. As bad as people want to take a chance on a QB it'll be hard to pass on the D talent. WE could draft to the strength of the draft and the strength of the Chiefs and stock the D.

RunKC
03-06-2017, 08:20 AM
History tells us a lot about what Dorsey looks for and what he was taught.

QB's from GB when Dorsey was there: Aaron Rodgers, Brian Brohm, Ingle Martin, Matt Flynn
QB's Dorsey in KC: Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray, Kevin Hogan

It's not a coincidence that every single one of these QB's took snaps under center in college and went through progressions.
That's obviously what Dorsey prefers, and only a few of those guys are in this draft (Kaaya, Peterman).

BryanBusby
03-06-2017, 08:33 AM
Peterman seems like the exact QB they would take, to be brutally honest.

Safe, noodle arm, experienced.

Also, I think you're wrong on your assessment if you think all of those dudes fit together. Two of them really stick out.

RunKC
03-06-2017, 09:22 AM
Peterman seems like the exact QB they would take, to be brutally honest.

Safe, noodle arm, experienced.

Also, I think you're wrong on your assessment if you think all of those dudes fit together. Two of them really stick out.

I don't get the hate for this kid. There are very few QB's who have strong arms and most of those guys flamed out.

It's all about what's between the ears.

BryanBusby
03-06-2017, 09:30 AM
A QB doesn't have to be able to swing it 70 yards down the field from his knees, but your starting QB should be able to make every NFL throw. If he can't than you need to upgrade.

Peterman is one of those QB's and drafting a kid that you could instantly do better than them is silly. Late era Chad Pennington had a lot between the ears and it just didn't fucking matter because he couldn't make every throw.

O.city
03-06-2017, 10:08 AM
There's a certain baseline level for arm strength. If the guy is at that, it's fine.

Accuracy, pocket presense and intelligence are above arm strength in my book.

O.city
03-06-2017, 10:14 AM
This corner back class is pretty insane.

O.city
03-06-2017, 10:29 AM
Safety from u conn measured 6"3 224. Jumped 44 inches on the vertical and 11"9 on the broad.

I think he ran a 4.4 as well.

BryanBusby
03-06-2017, 10:55 AM
There's a certain baseline level for arm strength. If the guy is at that, it's fine.

Accuracy, pocket presense and intelligence are above arm strength in my book.
Don't give a fuck how smart you are if you physically can't make the throws.

RunKC
03-06-2017, 10:57 AM
Chiefs are going to be able to get a quality CB in rd 4 with this class. Amazing

Sandy Vagina
03-06-2017, 11:00 AM
Peterman seems like the exact QB they would take, to be brutally honest.
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Exactly, this. He is the QB that I am most expecting Andy to want.

ILB Reddick. Blew up the Senior Bowl, great combine numbers. Gotta think he's at the top of Dorseys list.

An A+ choice, if Reddick is even available at 27.

O.city
03-06-2017, 11:00 AM
Don't give a **** how smart you are if you physically can't make the throws.

As I said, there's a certain arm strength baseline. You don't have to be stafford, but you can't be Pennington either.

Intelligence anticipation and accuracy can make up alot for arm strength.

ChiefAshhole1056
03-06-2017, 11:07 AM
I see the intrigue with Peppers, I do, but I think a team taking him in the first has ambitions of using him on all 3 phases because of his playmaking ability, and I dont see KC having much value in a player like that at this point.

When you look at him strictly as a S/LB, his tape just does not have round 1 footage to me. I dont think he's within the top 8 of Dorsey's shortlist.

Watson also performed his way out of our consideration this weekend, I'd be flabbergasted if he even fell to the mid-teens.

I'm a big fan of Mahomes and his tape, but man this combine disappointed me. Not to the point of Kizer though, I want nothing to do with him after that showing.

The Franchise
03-06-2017, 11:13 AM
Damn Lattimore is fast.

The Franchise
03-06-2017, 11:15 AM
I'll take Kevin King in the 3rd.

BossChief
03-06-2017, 11:26 AM
This is one hell of a good corner class.

Wow.

BryanBusby
03-06-2017, 11:28 AM
As I said, there's a certain arm strength baseline. You don't have to be stafford, but you can't be Pennington either.

Intelligence anticipation and accuracy can make up alot for arm strength.
I think anything below Watson isn't enough in the arm strength department.

BossChief
03-06-2017, 11:34 AM
Damn...I bet we could get BIGTIME upgrades to Acker and Gaines in the 4th and 5th rounds in this draft.

Guys that would push Nelson and Mitchell for playing time...and that's NOT a slam on Mitchell or Nelson...this draft class is extremely deep and talented. GMs know it and because of the depth, teams won't rush to pick them early.

I bet KC could get a guy at 27 that would normally go in the 10-15 range, too.

Our corners would be :eek:

RunKC
03-06-2017, 11:34 AM
Obi Melifonwu is going first rd now. Goddamn that guy is like his old teammate Byron Jones.

An absolute freak

RunKC
03-06-2017, 11:36 AM
Cordea Tankersley might go first rd too.

6'1"
32.25 arms
200 lbs 4.40 40

Holy shit

BossChief
03-06-2017, 11:37 AM
It's crazy how many DBs are running 4.4 flat or faster.

This DB class is just insane.

BossChief
03-06-2017, 11:38 AM
Cordea Tankersley might go first rd too.

6'1"
32.25 arms
200 lbs 4.40 40

Holy shit

This is probably the best draft since at least 2010.

The guy we get in the second round would be a first rounder in any other draft.

I can't wait to see what Dorsey does. I can see him moving up from that second round slot to the mid second and then moving up from the third to try and get back into the late second/early third range using some late rounders.

I'd love to see Dorsey trade his first this year for a first next year and a second this year...still take a first round guy in the second and load up with an extra first for next year in the process.

RunKC
03-06-2017, 11:39 AM
Welp if QB isn't there at 27 I could see CB. Top 15 talent falls down the board and we snatch em up just like Chris Jones.

I ain't mad at it

Sandy Vagina
03-06-2017, 11:51 AM
I wonder what round KC could get Utah CB Brian Hill? Looks like a good perimeter option to compete with Gaines and Mitchell.

6' 3" - 215 lbs - 34" arms - 10" hands - 4.48 official 40

BossChief
03-06-2017, 11:54 AM
Welp if QB isn't there at 27 I could see CB. Top 15 talent falls down the board and we snatch em up just like Chris Jones.

I ain't mad at it

Mitchell is only signed through 2017 and Gaines/Acker need upgraded.

I'd have no problem if Dorsey took a corner at 27 if he feels that strongly about someone...hell, I'd have no problem if he went right back in the third and took another corner, either.

Strike while the iron is hot and see if they can play Mitchell into a big contract elsewhere in FA so KC gets another comp pick after 2017.

Corners get stupid money in FA, so if KC can get a couple guys on super cheap rookie deals, he absolutely should before our current CBs get too expensive.

If KC comes out of their first 4 picks with 2cbs, a QB and a linebacker, I'll be happy.

BossChief
03-06-2017, 11:59 AM
Mitchell and Gaines are entering the final year of their contracts
Nelson is only signed through 2018

I could see KC going after at least 2 corners in this draft

BryanBusby
03-06-2017, 12:04 PM
I can't see the Chiefs investing a fifth of their entire haul on a spot they gave a lot of attention to a year ago.

Would require some moving down for more choices

Quesadilla Joe
03-06-2017, 12:43 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s not a big need, but from what I&#39;ve heard <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash">#Broncos</a> may draft a CB fairly high. DEN views it as a top 3 position of importance.</p>&mdash; Cameron Wolfe (@CameronWolfe) <a href="https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/838778662124060672">March 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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RunKC
03-06-2017, 12:56 PM
Danie Jeremiah said he's heard a lot of buzz around these CB's. Said the consensus is up to 16 corners could be drafted in the first 2 rounds.

KChiefs1
03-06-2017, 01:11 PM
It's kind of puzzling who our 1st rd pick could be. Mahomes, Watson, Reddick will all be gone by the late teens at most.



I wouldn't be surprised at all if we took someone like Charles Harris at 27.



I could live with that.

The QB class isn't up to snuff according to several experts & Dorsey.


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Mr. Laz
03-06-2017, 01:26 PM
That sounds like a lot of work when the Chiefs are just fine with a Parker and Berry S duo.

McMillan is going to be a guy that's better suited for a 4 DL kind of Defense.

I'm not fine with Parker, he's a JAG at SS.

He's not physical and doesn't tackle well.

Our run defense took a hit when Berry moved back and Parker was at SS.

we ended up moving Parker to the slot.

BossChief
03-06-2017, 01:41 PM
Parker is a big reason we haven't given up many big plays. His speed and coverage instincts back there are very underrated.

Mr. Laz
03-06-2017, 03:07 PM
Parker is a big reason we haven't given up many big plays. His speed and coverage instincts back there are very underrated.
Maybe like Donnie Edwards at running back, running around down field making tackles.

Parker doesn't attack, doesn't tackle well

He's in the lead for most plays standing around the pile trying to look busy.

He's better at playing a FS/CB type position which is where he ended up towards the end of last year.

Even Sorenson is better in the box than Parker.

O.city
03-06-2017, 03:11 PM
Parker play any snaps at SS last year?

Quesadilla Joe
03-08-2017, 10:41 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/mikefreemanNFL">@mikefreemanNFL</a> on Deshaun Watson: <a href="https://t.co/DvxYwO0G1p">pic.twitter.com/DvxYwO0G1p</a></p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/839494718098706433">March 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Pasta Little Brioni
03-08-2017, 10:58 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s not a big need, but from what I&#39;ve heard <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash">#Broncos</a> may draft a CB fairly high. DEN views it as a top 3 position of importance.</p>&mdash; Cameron Wolfe (@CameronWolfe) <a href="https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/838778662124060672">March 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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