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SAUTO
04-20-2017, 07:59 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/how-davis-webb-has-become-the-most-intriguing-qb-prospect-in-the-nfl-draft/amp/

This article checks every box on Andy Reid's qb check list.

RealSNR
04-20-2017, 08:02 PM
This reminds me of the way Andy Dalton was talked about as a 4th round guy for the first couple months of draft talk. Then just before the combine he started to get mention as an early 3rd/2nd round guy, with a handful of draft guys predicting possible 1st round. Now about a week out all the talk is about him going in the 1st round.

He's also about as ugly as Andy Dalton, too.

GloucesterChief
04-20-2017, 08:09 PM
No. Completely unimpressive last year.

SAUTO
04-20-2017, 08:12 PM
No. Completely unimpressive last year.

I'm not sure how I feel about it at all.

GloucesterChief
04-20-2017, 08:21 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about it at all.

He was fourth or fifth best QB in the Pac last year. Would of been 5th or 6th best if Rosen hadn't been hurt.

Mr. Laz
04-20-2017, 08:22 PM
Unless they are prepare to jump ahead of all the people who are ready to jump ahead of them, they won't have much of a choice but guys like Webb,Peterman,Dobbs,Kaaya etc

Chief Northman
04-20-2017, 08:25 PM
Nick Foles II

Direckshun
04-20-2017, 08:27 PM
Peterman.

Hammock Parties
04-20-2017, 08:29 PM
Be kind to your webb-footed friends,
For that bust may be somebody's brother

He lives in a hole in a swamp
Where the passes are always a dump

You may think that this is the end:
Well it is, but to prove the Chiefs are liars

We're going to play it again,
But only this time our passes will sail a little higher

BWillie
04-20-2017, 08:40 PM
There has got to be no bigger waste of time in human history than people discussing the NFL draft. Especially draft picks after the 1st round.

Hammock Parties
04-20-2017, 08:43 PM
There has got to be no bigger waste of time in human history than people discussing the NFL draft. Especially draft picks after the 1st round.

It's not a waste of time. It's the very lifeblood of the sport we crave. If you don't draft well your franchise is going in the shitter. How is that not worthy of discussion?

Beef Supreme
04-20-2017, 08:46 PM
Peterman.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6VKU1U_WxRVzjpqrJM5Mq-B7vMEAtOPzh7ShZcNZ6IlYTOCjs7g

RealSNR
04-20-2017, 08:52 PM
There has got to be no bigger waste of time in human history than people discussing the NFL draft. Especially draft picks after the 1st round.

Then why are you even on this forum?

Better yet, why do you watch fucking sports at all?

All fans can do is speculate and wish. That's our position. WE aren't the participants. That's why we debate, predict, and speculate. Because it's the only thing we CAN do.

The NFL draft is a perfect vessel for that fan speculation. It's fucking fun. You do this shit all the time, too. WHENEVER YOU FUCKING TALK SPORTS. The NFL draft just involves college players prior to entering.

If you have to have this explained to you, I think you'd be better off doing something different with your time. Like gardening. Or jogging. Or reading a book.

RealSNR
04-20-2017, 08:54 PM
BWillie, do you think the Chiefs can win the big game this week?

BWillie: "I don't know and neither do you. What we think will happen with players often ends up going in the opposite direction. It's a waste of time to even discuss this."

Sandy Vagina
04-21-2017, 03:36 AM
I still think of Webb as a 3rd rounder, but if he's the choice at 27, I wouldn't get angry. I figure they could do worse.. and it is a position of great need soon enough. :shrug:

Eleazar
04-21-2017, 05:01 AM
Would be totally happy with a Webb selection at 27. I could see Andy falling in love with one of these 'athlete' type QBs, but what you want in a franchise QB is a pocket passer with a head for the game, who will have the ability eventually to read the whole field well. Webb has prototypical size and seems to have the intangibles. He'll have to learn a pro offense and he needs coaching to correct decision making, but that's why he's available at 27. He is an upside project.

I know the anti-Alex crowd will screech about the deep balls, but this is the right kind of QB to invest in, and he is about as good of a prospect as you are ever going to get at 27 and his flaws could be correctable.

Chiefnj2
04-21-2017, 06:34 AM
In what world is Webb a first round talent?

Sandy Vagina
04-21-2017, 06:45 AM
In what world is Webb a first round talent?

The world of pre-draft QB desperation! Say it with me... SEVEN QBs IN THE TOP 50!!!!! :whackit:

notorious
04-21-2017, 06:50 AM
There has got to be no bigger waste of time in human history than people discussing the NFL draft. Especially draft picks after the 1st round.


Bigger wastes:

Trying to fix the Middle East

Trying to understand a woman

RunKC
04-21-2017, 06:58 AM
In what world is Webb a first round talent?

1/3 of the league has told him he's a first rd player.

Chiefnj2
04-21-2017, 06:58 AM
1/3 of the league has told him he's a first rd player.

Bullshit.

Sandy Vagina
04-21-2017, 07:18 AM
Anyone watch the Cal/Stanford game? Just based on that game, Webb looks like a day 3 prospect. Tons of screens. Plenty of bad decisions. WR Chad Hansen though.. he looked day 2.

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/davis-webb/

Red Dawg
04-21-2017, 07:29 AM
Anyone but Kizer. That kid is not mature enough. He's got arrogant douche written all over him and now has been quoted as saying he's go the skills to be the best ever.

He just wants money and will fail. That's my read on him.

rico
04-21-2017, 07:53 AM
Anyone watch the Cal/Stanford game? Just based on that game, Webb looks like a day 3 prospect. Tons of screens. Plenty of bad decisions. WR Chad Hansen though.. he looked day 2.

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/davis-webb/

Oh boy, considering Sandy Cheeks's brilliance, I bet if Dorsey read this post (he probably did read it), he would make the final decision to write Davis Webb out of consideration. If Dorsey read this, might as well scratch Webb off.

GloucesterChief
04-21-2017, 07:56 AM
In what world is Webb a first round talent?

NFL teams are desperate for QB talent. It gets over picked a lot.

RunKC
04-21-2017, 08:09 AM
Anyone watch the Cal/Stanford game? Just based on that game, Webb looks like a day 3 prospect. Tons of screens. Plenty of bad decisions. WR Chad Hansen though.. he looked day 2.

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/davis-webb/

393 yards
60% comp percentage
2 TD'/0 INT's

This is a 3rd rd pick? You do realize that this guy has Hansen and that's really it right? 3 new OL and all new receivers but 1 against teams like Stanford, USC and Washington with significantly more talent.

What a bad take. At least point to one of his bad games

staylor26
04-21-2017, 08:15 AM
393 yards
60% comp percentage
2 TD'/0 INT's

This is a 3rd rd pick? You do realize that this guy has Hansen and that's really it right? 3 new OL and all new receivers but 1 against teams like Stanford, USC and Washington with significantly more talent.

What a bad take. At least point to one of his bad games

After reading about all the losses Cal's offense had after 2015, I was really impressed that Webb put up pretty close to the same #'s Goff did.

RunKC
04-21-2017, 08:24 AM
After reading about all the losses Cal's offense had after 2015, I was really impressed that Webb put up pretty close to the same #'s Goff did.

Yeah I think his worst game was Washington, but idk what people expect him to do. They score 35 points in the first half and expect the kid to keep up with Hansen and jack shit against Washington's amazing secondary?

The article I posted had him saying that when he made INT's downfield in games like this, he was just trying to make a play. Probably bc he was in an impossible situation.

Reminds me a little of Dak. Can't expect him to beat Alabama with jack shit, but the talent seems to be there.

RunKC
04-21-2017, 08:35 AM
<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/1nn821"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1nn821.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

Perfect pass and a horrible drop. This guy has shit receivers. No wonder they threw so many screens.

Titty Meat
04-21-2017, 08:36 AM
I haven't checked all the QB's stats but like I said best QB in this draft 10 yards and under he completed 65% of his throws. Unlike Smith he can push it down the field too. Don't like his pocket presence though. He's a more accurate Brock Osweiler.

Eleazar
04-21-2017, 08:48 AM
You aren't going to get a ready to start, finished product at #27. You can quibble about flaws, but a QB who doesn't have obvious flaws will be a top 10 pick any year, and even those guys are a long way from a sure thing.

If you really think this Chiefs team is a contending team, then by all means we should take a linebacker or another offensive or defensive lineman or someone who can contribute immediately.

If you see the way this Andy/Alex experiment all ends - with mediocre results and no Super Bowls - then you should be hoping we are buying tickets in the QB lottery.

Halfcan
04-21-2017, 09:06 AM
393 yards
60% comp percentage
2 TD'/0 INT's

This is a 3rd rd pick? You do realize that this guy has Hansen and that's really it right? 3 new OL and all new receivers but 1 against teams like Stanford, USC and Washington with significantly more talent.

What a bad take. At least point to one of his bad games

That is nearly 3 games worth of stats for Alex. :)

kccrow
04-21-2017, 09:21 AM
393 yards
60% comp percentage
2 TD'/0 INT's

This is a 3rd rd pick? You do realize that this guy has Hansen and that's really it right? 3 new OL and all new receivers but 1 against teams like Stanford, USC and Washington with significantly more talent.

What a bad take. At least point to one of his bad games

I watched that game. He should have been picked off about 5 times in that game with ease. He hit defenders instead of receivers on easy short routes to the sidelines a bunch of times. 60% completion was heavily inflated by the screen game. You can't just pull stats out of context and call it "good." The guy played like ass for a good percentage of that game, as did he in a good percentage of others. I don't like Webb in round 1 because of his decision making. I'd take him in the 3rd, like Nick Foles, and hope he could learn and get coached out of it. I see them as damn near carbon copies coming out.

chiefscafan
04-21-2017, 09:46 AM
I will say it again panicky in the pocket. I'm starting to believe it's Kizer or Watson. They fit the system. Kizer I'm really starting to believe got a bum deal at Norte dame.

Sandy Vagina
04-21-2017, 09:46 AM
393 yards
60% comp percentage
2 TD'/0 INT's

This is a 3rd rd pick? You do realize that this guy has Hansen and that's really it right? 3 new OL and all new receivers but 1 against teams like Stanford, USC and Washington with significantly more talent.

What a bad take. At least point to one of his bad games

Yeah, you are pulling some crafty spin on stats here though. Funny how and for whom that works. His early short slant, Hansen YAC'd that bitch about 75 yards. Another short dump pr so went for nice chunk yardage.

You are mistaking me for some hater. I already said I'm okay with him on day 2. Was just saying.. that one game, all in all... not 1st rd pick impressive. Most of his throws seemed to lack accuracy.. and the ball just came out awkwardly from his wind-up.

Just giving the opinion that after watching that one game.. I'll have to go back and watch more now. If all his games look like that? nope.. rd 3-4 at best.

O.city
04-21-2017, 09:49 AM
For a qb, if you're ok taking him in round 2, go ahead and take him in round 1. If you think he's a franchise guy or qbotf, that 5th year option is a really big valuable thing.

Reading the tea leaves, the chiefs don't currently have a backup qb. They may say it's bray, but I'd imagine that's some lip service.

ModSocks
04-21-2017, 10:03 AM
The more of Webb i watch, the more i like him. I think his floor is a quality backup. He seems like a guy that can stick in the NFL. He has the arm to make all the throws, his mechanics look good, though he has the tendency to float 'em off his back foot. He makes some awful decisions at times, but he has the tools, the frame, and he moves well for a guy his size.

Sandy Vagina
04-21-2017, 10:06 AM
For a qb, if you're ok taking him in round 2, go ahead and take him in round 1. If you think he's a franchise guy or qbotf, that 5th year option is a really big valuable thing.

Reading the tea leaves, the chiefs don't currently have a backup qb. They may say it's bray, but I'd imagine that's some lip service.

What about the QBs that you feel will be quality backups, but with only a so-so chance of developing into more?


Anyway.. just watched the SD State one. He showed a bit more positive in this one. Some of the deep completions felt like it was exploiting a high-school level secondary. The pick 6 he threw at the goal-line was brutal. Had the game won in the end had he thrown a good pass to Hansen over the middle. Couple of near-INTs to add.

Still looks like the ball often comes out of hand funny... like he doesn't grip it right.

He IS unbroken, and can get it down the field. Definitely stuff to work with.. and all the more if his intelligence and approach is what is being described.

Hammock Parties
04-21-2017, 10:11 AM
Dude looks frail as shit.

http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/webb-1.jpg?w=620

Titty Meat
04-21-2017, 10:16 AM
For a qb, if you're ok taking him in round 2, go ahead and take him in round 1. If you think he's a franchise guy or qbotf, that 5th year option is a really big valuable thing.

Reading the tea leaves, the chiefs don't currently have a backup qb. They may say it's bray, but I'd imagine that's some lip service.

Thats insane reasoning. If Foster slides to 27 youre gonna take a guy who you know will be there in the 2nd round?

Sandy Vagina
04-21-2017, 10:28 AM
More of the same short stuff with the occasional deep one VS Washington St.

The ablity to use and manipulate all of these open formations.. added in with the dink and dunk extreme? Using every inch of the horizontal game. Andy Reid is JIHP to get a hold of Webb.

Brutal INT late 2nd Q as Cal was about to score. Looked like he needed to get that slant into the wide open #17 early.. and it was late, so the underneath coverage closed and snatched it instead. Needed better anticipation there.

Not a bad second half. He does show good things to work with. Mostly, the unbroken spirit to keep eyes downfield, and not give up on many plays. I like his drop and composure most of the time.

His accuracy and decision making isn't great.

CoMoChief
04-21-2017, 10:36 AM
Theyre gonna trade up before houston

O.city
04-21-2017, 10:37 AM
Thats insane reasoning. If Foster slides to 27 youre gonna take a guy who you know will be there in the 2nd round?

Sure, if you have a case of magic beans and know a guy will be available later.

Even so, if you think he's your qb for 12 years, I wouldn't risk not being able to take him.

Tombstone RJ
04-21-2017, 10:46 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/how-davis-webb-has-become-the-most-intriguing-qb-prospect-in-the-nfl-draft/amp/

This article checks every box on Andy Reid's qb check list.

Makes a lot of sense.

SAUTO
04-21-2017, 11:46 AM
<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/1nn821"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1nn821.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

Perfect pass and a horrible drop. This guy has shit receivers. No wonder they threw so many screens.

thats a beautiful pass

Quesadilla Joe
04-21-2017, 12:36 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tidbit about Davis Webb. His father, a HS coach, would often call <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cal?src=hash">#Cal</a>’s offices &amp; ask the same question: “Is my son being a good teammate?”</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/855484328368902144">April 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Kiimo
04-21-2017, 12:39 PM
If we don't draft one of the big 3 I vote we don't waste a pick on one of these crap QBs. First round or nothing.

Kiimo
04-21-2017, 12:40 PM
I will say it again panicky in the pocket. I'm starting to believe it's Kizer or Watson. They fit the system. Kizer I'm really starting to believe got a bum deal at Norte dame.

Tim Grunhard says he wouldn't draft him, like, at ALL.

So that's enough for me.

ModSocks
04-21-2017, 12:40 PM
Some of the best players in pro-sports have two first names, i.e Jamaal Charles. Michael Jordan.

Davis Webb has two last names....RED FLAG.

RealSNR
04-21-2017, 01:05 PM
How many teammates went to Davis Webb's birthday party?

ModSocks
04-21-2017, 01:10 PM
How many teammates went to Davis Webb's birthday party?

How many Davis Webb jerseys were sold?

Red Dawg
04-21-2017, 01:11 PM
How many teammates went to Davis Webb's birthday party?

HAHAHAHAHA! I want David Fucking Putney because I feel like it!

Discuss Thrower
04-21-2017, 01:23 PM
HAHAHAHAHA! I want David Fucking Putney because I feel like it!

Pancake eating son of a bitch.

wutamess
04-21-2017, 01:26 PM
Can he spot a wide open Tyreek Hill streaking down the middle of the field while even with a flat footed safety?

MahiMike
04-21-2017, 02:44 PM
Peterman.

This.

Or Dobbs.

They're my 2 picks.

Pasta Little Brioni
04-21-2017, 02:45 PM
This.

Or Dobbs.

They're my 2 picks.

Fuck that. You guys are messed up.

Pasta Little Brioni
04-21-2017, 02:46 PM
Peterman.

JFC you are clueless

MahiMike
04-21-2017, 02:50 PM
How many teammates went to Davis Webb's birthday party?

hahaha. Yeah I rented Draft day last weekend too.

RealSNR
04-21-2017, 02:52 PM
hahaha. Yeah I rented Draft day last weekend too.

Davis Webb no matter what!

KC Hawks
04-21-2017, 02:55 PM
That movie accurately had the Chiefs trying to trade for someone else's backup.

RealSNR
04-21-2017, 02:58 PM
I also loved how Denis Leary was like, "In Dallas we had running backs and we got rings."

Not by drafting those RBs in the first round, Denis.

KC Hawks
04-21-2017, 03:07 PM
I liked how Kevin Costner didn't know who Jacksonville's GM was.

Sorter
04-21-2017, 04:16 PM
Reminds me of Foles.

(Not a bad thing).

RealSNR
04-21-2017, 04:26 PM
Reminds me of Foles.

(Not a bad thing).

POST MORE OFTEN.

There are some super special people running around these days that could use an education from you.

Discuss Thrower
04-21-2017, 04:27 PM
POST MORE OFTEN.

There are some super special people running around these days that could use an education from you.

This place has ruined enough people. Let Sorter alone.

L.A. Chieffan
04-21-2017, 04:39 PM
Why can't we just go for gold and get Watson. What a shot of adrenaline that would be for this franchise.

rico
04-21-2017, 05:32 PM
Why can't we just go for gold and get Watson. What a shot of adrenaline that would be for this franchise.

Holy shit, it's good to see you... You were comedy freaking gold during the Cassel era. Your posts would have me laughing to the point of tears during that stretch. Holy shit.

Red Dawg
04-21-2017, 06:00 PM
Can he spot a wide open Tyreek Hill streaking down the middle of the field while even with a flat footed safety?

Foles could have but of course we let him walk so we can keep Smiths amazing 1 td per game average.

Tough to find that type of production.

L.A. Chieffan
04-21-2017, 11:48 PM
Holy shit, it's good to see you... You were comedy freaking gold during the Cassel era. Your posts would have me laughing to the point of tears during that stretch. Holy shit.

Thanks man, wild times. Wild times indeed.

oldman
04-22-2017, 08:21 AM
If we don't draft one of the big 3 I vote we don't waste a pick on one of these crap QBs. First round or nothing.

That's exactly the kind of thinking that keeps us with other team's castoffs. Face it, none of the QBs in this round are ready to start, so why does it have to be a 1st to make you happy? I'd much rather take one of these lesser tier guys in the 2nd and see what happens. I won't bore you with where Brees, Brady, Prescott, and a host of others went. They all turned out OK.

RunKC
04-24-2017, 07:50 AM
Several scouts told Tom Pelissero they would take Webb over Goff.


https://mobile.twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/856476612531015680

Such a weak QB class guys LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni
04-24-2017, 09:15 AM
Like i said, 4 to 5 guys better than Lynch

The Franchise
04-24-2017, 09:17 AM
6. Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh

Two-year starter for the Panthers after transferring from Tennessee, where he was benched in each of his two starts, the latter in favor of fellow draft prospect Joshua Dobbs. At Pitt, completed 61.1% of his passes for 5,142 yards and 47 touchdowns with 15 interceptions and was 14-10 as the starter. Best prospect from an under-center, pro-style offense in this class. Understands the concepts coming in. Game manager type. Stands 6-2, 226 with 9 7/8-inch hands. Above-average arm. Smart. Good decision-maker.

Projection: Second/third round.

Do. Not. Want.

chiefzilla1501
04-24-2017, 09:50 AM
That's exactly the kind of thinking that keeps us with other team's castoffs. Face it, none of the QBs in this round are ready to start, so why does it have to be a 1st to make you happy? I'd much rather take one of these lesser tier guys in the 2nd and see what happens. I won't bore you with where Brees, Brady, Prescott, and a host of others went. They all turned out OK.

No, the kind of thing that keeps us with other teams castoffs is having not drafted a first round qb since 1983. Do you play blackjack? Sure, theres a chance if you hit on 20 you'll get to 21. That doesn't make it a good idea. The qbs are graded first rounders because they are believed to be the highest % chance of succeeding.

QB is a different position because if you don't get it through the draft, it's extremely difficult to find a sb caliber qb in free agency. Because the only qbs who break free are qbs some other team didn't want. We've tried this experiment for several years. Between Croyle, Murray, Hogan, and probably eventually Bray, we'll realize there's a reason most of these QBs fell to the lower rounds. I don't want to take that risk anymore.

I don't want another trent green situation where we failed to bring in a young replacement and spent 10 years with shitty qbs. Draft the best you can get, develop the hell out of him, and if you're unsure about him next year draft another qb.

Pasta Little Brioni
04-24-2017, 10:02 AM
Do. Not. Want.

Pissing a pick away on Peterman would cause a meltdown beyond words

Quesadilla Joe
04-24-2017, 10:31 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When you gamble on a QB in the draft you put yourself and your organization at great risk!</p>&mdash; Rich Gannon (@RichGannon12) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichGannon12/status/856542906018123777">April 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I like a couple of these QB&#39;s but not enough to take in 1st round. I&#39;ve spoken w a # of personnel men I respect &amp; known for yrs who concur.</p>&mdash; Rich Gannon (@RichGannon12) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichGannon12/status/856534905907535873">April 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Coochie liquor
04-24-2017, 10:35 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When you gamble on a QB in the draft you put yourself and your organization at great risk!</p>&mdash; Rich Gannon (@RichGannon12) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichGannon12/status/856542906018123777">April 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I like a couple of these QB&#39;s but not enough to take in 1st round. I&#39;ve spoken w a # of personnel men I respect &amp; known for yrs who concur.</p>&mdash; Rich Gannon (@RichGannon12) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichGannon12/status/856534905907535873">April 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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One of the many reasons your team will suck again this year.

staylor26
04-24-2017, 10:36 AM
One of the many reasons your team will suck again this year.

LMAO

maninthemiddle
04-24-2017, 10:44 AM
If these guys are off the board (all of whom would be day one starters minus the QBs):

Myles Garret
Jonathan Allen
Marshon Lattimore
Jamal Adams
Derek Barnett
Reuben Foster
Haason Reddick
Christian McCaffrey
Dalvin Cook
Jarrad Davis -- higher on him than most
Deshaun Watson
Mitchell Trubisky
Patrick Mahomes
Gareon Conley

I'd try to trade down and take Davis Webb in the second. If I couldn't trade out I'd still take him at 27. The fifth year option would be nice. I like Zach Cunningham, Charles Harris, Taco Charlton, Takkatist McKinley Tyus Bowser, Kevin King and Marlon Humphrey but I wouldn't be high fiving everyone in the room if we took one of them at 27.

I really hope we trade up and take Mahomes or Watson. I've been a Chiefs fan since '93. The highest QB we have taken since then has been Brodie Croyle. The law of averages and common sense has to break my way at some point... hopefully.

TambaBerry
04-24-2017, 10:46 AM
I think it's hilarious that a lot of people who don't like mahomes likes Davis Webb. Go watch his game against Washington on draftbreakdown. It's against actual NFL caliber corners and then come talk to me about his footwork and his mechanics. God he made some awful throws. Do not want this guy at all

The Franchise
04-24-2017, 10:47 AM
Rich Gannon is a moron.

Donger
04-24-2017, 10:48 AM
You guys think this will happen?

Nothing, of course, is more important for the Chiefs than drafting the eventual successor to quarterback Alex Smith. Look for the Chiefs to make every effort to get that done, even if they have to trade up a few spots in the first or second round. -- Adam Teicher

Red Dawg
04-24-2017, 10:54 AM
You guys think this will happen?

Nothing, of course, is more important for the Chiefs than drafting the eventual successor to quarterback Alex Smith. Look for the Chiefs to make every effort to get that done, even if they have to trade up a few spots in the first or second round. -- Adam Teicher

Whaaaaaat? From Adam T? Anyone think he knows what he's talking about?

Discuss Thrower
04-24-2017, 10:56 AM
You guys think this will happen?

Nothing, of course, is more important for the Chiefs than drafting the eventual successor to quarterback Alex Smith. Look for the Chiefs to make every effort to get that done, even if they have to trade up a few spots in the first or second round. -- Adam Teicher

Thirty-four years of franchise history says "lol, no."

Kiimo
04-24-2017, 11:02 AM
Thanks 4th round selection Rich Gannon.

Screw Davis Webb. Watson, Mahomes or NOTHING.

staylor26
04-24-2017, 11:02 AM
Thirty-four years of franchise history says "lol, no."

Serious question, do you honestly believe the Chiefs will never draft a QB in the 1st simply because of this?

Nobody can possibly be that ****ing ignorant.

Beef Supreme
04-24-2017, 11:10 AM
Serious question, do you honestly believe the Chiefs will never draft a QB in the 1st simply because of this?

Nobody can possibly be that ****ing ignorant.

Nobody can say for certain, but until they do otherwise, he isn't wrong.

staylor26
04-24-2017, 11:19 AM
Nobody can say for certain, but until they do otherwise, he isn't wrong.

Nobody can "say for certain" that we will ever win another football game again either

It has to happen eventually.

maninthemiddle
04-24-2017, 11:27 AM
Interesting NFL Draft odds (Bovada)

O/U 2.5 QBs in round one
O/U 25.5 draft position for QB Watson
O/U 10.5 draft position for QB Trubisky

I've got a good feeling Watson or Mahomes will be there with a willing trade partner at 21-23. The compensation should be right about our comp 3rd.

Gravedigger
04-24-2017, 01:01 PM
I think Dorsey trades up, he doesn't need more picks this year, everyone knows who we're targeting, and if you want Mahomes you're going to have to go get him in the late teens early twenties. Davis Webb is the settle pick, and even then I think we go BPA if we stay put, which I don't think would be Davis Webb.

Titty Meat
04-24-2017, 01:08 PM
Serious question, do you honestly believe the Chiefs will never draft a QB in the 1st simply because of this?

Nobody can possibly be that ****ing ignorant.

Not never and idk how old you are but they havent in my lifetime. Shit the only QB they tried to develope was Brodie Croyle.

RealSNR
04-24-2017, 01:36 PM
Nobody can say for certain, but until they do otherwise, he isn't wrong.

Did you ever think you'd see the Royals win a World Series in your lifetime back in 2008?

The Cubs were over 100 years in their drought, and they had at least made the playoffs a couple of times in the span of 30 years.

Pitt Gorilla
04-24-2017, 01:53 PM
Interesting NFL Draft odds (Bovada)

O/U 2.5 QBs in round one
O/U 25.5 draft position for QB Watson
O/U 10.5 draft position for QB Trubisky

I've got a good feeling Watson or Mahomes will be there with a willing trade partner at 21-23. The compensation should be right about our comp 3rd.I think we can get Watson at 27.

Beef Supreme
04-24-2017, 01:53 PM
Did you ever think you'd see the Royals win a World Series in your lifetime back in 2008?

The Cubs were over 100 years in their drought, and they had at least made the playoffs a couple of times in the span of 30 years.

WTF does that have to do with anything?

I didn't make any bold fucking prediction. The Chiefs' history suggests they don't take QBs in the first round. Until they do otherwise, he is not wrong.

They could do otherwise THIS year, but history does not support that wild ass guess.

Kiimo
04-24-2017, 04:13 PM
He's saying the past is not precedent and predicting the future based on the past is ridiculous, especially since we have a different GM now, and that GM is known to have taken QBs early.

There isn't a person on this team from top to bottom that was here during Peterson's years as far as I know, not even the owner.

Coogs
04-24-2017, 04:20 PM
We have drafted 2 QB's in our history in the first round. One of them was from Clemson and wore #4. That number was retired in 1979, and brought out of retirement for Watson. :hmmm:

Beef Supreme
04-24-2017, 04:59 PM
He's saying the past is not precedent and predicting the future based on the past is ridiculous, especially since we have a different GM now, and that GM is known to have taken QBs early.

There isn't a person on this team from top to bottom that was here during Peterson's years as far as I know, not even the owner.

I'm pretty sure precedent is exactly what this is.

Words. They mean things.

Titty Meat
04-24-2017, 05:45 PM
Too lazy so I'll ask does anyone know what it would take to go from 27 to the 8-14 range?

Coogs
04-24-2017, 06:28 PM
Too lazy so I'll ask does anyone know what it would take to go from 27 to the 8-14 range?

14 is worth 1100 points.

Ours:

1st 680
2nd 310
3rd 136
3rd 86
4th 40
5th 23
5th 19
6th 5
6th 4
7th 1 or 2


#8 is worth 1400

TambaBerry
04-24-2017, 06:36 PM
We should realistically look at the 18-22 range. Titans and dolphins. Ravens are looking to move but that's a big jump to 16.

Kiimo
04-24-2017, 06:36 PM
I'm pretty sure precedent is exactly what this is.

Words. They mean things.

The precedent is Reid and Dorsey's drafting history, not the drafting history of a building where people have worked.