More Airline employee nonsense...

[Deberg_1990]

A new video surfaced on social media showed a mother crying with a baby in her arms, and American Airlines is investigating the matter, CNN reported.

The video, which was filmed by a fellow passenger, shows the moments after an incident in which an American airlines flight attendant confronted a passenger on a flight from San Francisco to Dallas, according to CNN.

The poster of the video said that the flight attendant violently took the baby stroller away from the passenger, who had her baby in her arms. The social media user also alleged that the attendant hit the mother with the stroller, “just missing the baby.”

A passenger also stood up the defend the mother.

As CBS reported, the video shows a passenger confronting the attendant, saying “Hey, bud? Hey, bud? You do that to me and I’ll knock you flat.”

The American Airlines employee replies, “You stay out of this! You stay out of this!” He confronts the passenger again, adding, “Try it. Hit me.”


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865678464/Video-Witness-captures-tense-moment-between-flight-attendant-and-mother-with-a-baby.html


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[displacedinMN]

I have yet to see what led up to the stroller being removed. Strollers are to be out of the cabin and are stowed below.

The other guy should have waited to get involved.
The attendant should not have engaged the other guy.

[Reerun_KC]

Main reason I want to go from Charter/private to International Cargo...

People suck and passengers are the worse...

[LoneWolf]

Hysterical mother and confrontational asshole on a plane. Typical day in air travel. Who gives a shit?

[Reerun_KC]

Hysterical mother and confrontational asshole on a plane. Typical day in air travel. Who gives a shit?


Drama Queens....

[POND_OF_RED]

I love how he's defending the woman's honor by almost starting another physical confrontation to put the baby in harms way again. Well thought out.
I fly all the time for work. Sadly confrontations like this are all too common. Airlines are stressful places for some people and all those workers do all day is listen to entitled pricks incessantly bitch about first world problems.

[dls6501]

The guy who came to the "woman's defense" should have been arrested and escorted off the airplane.

[Deberg_1990]

The guy who came to the "woman's defense" should have been arrested and escorted off the airplane.

Actually that's a good point. Your right, it was a threat.

But the airline employee didn't handle it well. He shouldn't have come back at he guy and should have just ignored it.

[Msmith]

The woman had a handful. She pushed a kid with a folding stroller, holding another kid in her arm, carrying a big bag pack at her back, plus the twin-seats stroller behind her. Obviously, the twin-seats stroller won't fit either underneath the seat or the cabin storage above. The attendant should store that big stroller right away. Since then, he tried to lift the stroller above the woman's head but caused a glancing blow, all hell broke loose...

[ROYC75]

Actually that's a good point. Your right, it was a threat.

But the airline employee didn't handle it well. He shouldn't have come back at he guy and should have just ignored it.

He's going to/should get a lengthy unpaid vacation

[Lex Luthor]

The guy who came to the "woman's defense" should have been arrested and escorted off the airplane.

Yes, it's always best to sit by and do nothing while an authoritarian asshole assaults a paying customer who is weaker and unable to defend herself because she has her kids with her, including the baby who almost struck by the idiot.

[Otter]

I can't embed the video but here's a report on what happened from an eyewitness: </br></br> https://youtu.be/KxpFGkK-teU </br></br> As with everything on the internet maintain a degree of skepticism about its truth but if true it tells a very different story.</br></br>

[Rausch]

Civility is just gone in modern society.

It seems like every customer feels entitled to your service and that you OWE it to them.

On the other hand it also seems like anyone with any authori-tah, from the guy taking your order at Wendy's to the DMV, act as if you are a lower life form lucky to be serviced by them.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

What really happened (embedded for Otter)

KxpFGkK-teU

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

that poor husband of hers.

[lunkkunk]

While I believe the situation should have been handled better by the flight attendant some people act like because they paid money for a service that they can do whatever the **** they want and rules don't apply to them. My wife has flown by herself before with a toddler and a baby and somehow managed to do it without making a scene or acting like an entitled ****.

[Garcia Bronco]

Civility is just gone in modern society.

It seems like every customer feels entitled to your service and that you OWE it to them.

On the other hand it also seems like anyone with any authori-tah, from the guy taking your order at Wendy's to the DMV, act as if you are a lower life form lucky to be serviced by them.

Paying for the service entitles the customer to a degree.

[dls6501]

What really happened (embedded for Otter)

KxpFGkK-teU

Thank you for posting. The way people are entitled these days makes me sick. This woman was 100% in the wrong, and so was the DB who got in the flight attendant's face.

[POND_OF_RED]

Thank you for posting. The way people are entitled these days makes me sick. This woman was 100% in the wrong, and so was the DB who got in the flight attendant's face.

Don't forget the flight attendant. The way he handled the situation was not right, no matter what some random facebook post says. There's video of him provoking a fight with a passenger. He's going to get fired when it's all said and done.

[POND_OF_RED]

Also that lady is retarded. No way should filming on airlines become against the law

[Kiimo]

lmao at people defending a flight attendant who wrestled any object out of a woman's hands while she holds a baby, he's going to get f-ing fired and should.

The white knight had the right idea and then completely turned wrong when he stood up and confronted the flight attendant.

People sure do love authoritarian figures right? And screw the common woman holding a baby it's clearly all her fault.

[dls6501]

Don't forget the flight attendant. The way he handled the situation was not right, no matter what some random facebook post says. There's video of him provoking a fight with a passenger. He's going to get fired when it's all said and done.

A random passenger stands up and threatens the flight attendant, and you interpret that as the flight attendant provoking a flight with the passenger?

[Kiimo]

Yes?

[POND_OF_RED]

A random passenger stands up and threatens the flight attendant, and you interpret that as the flight attendant provoking a flight with the passenger?

No, but him getting in his face, pointing, and gesturing to bring it on is pretty easy to interpret as provoking a fight.

[Mr. Laz]

They passed some kind of rule empowering airline personnel awhile back.

Since then they have turned Gestapo, thinking they can bully everyone around.


The phone camera has changed so much.

Video proof has made it much harder to be a prick who abuses their power.

[tooge]

moral of the story:

Someone shoulda got choked out

[loochy]

lmao at people defending a flight attendant who wrestled any object out of a woman's hands while she holds a baby, he's going to get f-ing fired and should.

The white knight had the right idea and then completely turned wrong when he stood up and confronted the flight attendant.

People sure do love authoritarian figures right? And screw the common woman holding a baby it's clearly all her fault.

Based on the testimony, yeah, it is her fault.

[POND_OF_RED]

Based on the testimony, yeah, it is her fault.

What testimony? The one social media post that some kooky lady made a video about? I see more people in the video complaining that the flight attendant was wrong than that one post by someone we can't even confirm was on the flight

[POND_OF_RED]

Basically it boils down to the flight attendant not doing their job correctly. The woman was in the wrong by thinking she could bring her stroller into the plane, but that does not give the flight attendant the right to physically remove the stroller the way he did. Every airport has tons of security that are trained to deal with these situations. Doesn't look like a call was ever made before the attendant escalated the situation. That's why he'll be fired.

[loochy]

What testimony? The one social media post that some kooky lady made a video about? I see more people in the video complaining that the flight attendant was wrong than that one post by someone we can't even confirm was on the flight

Yeah, the testimony in the video that dls6501 posted. That's all I really have right now. :shrug:
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[loochy]

Basically it boils down to the flight attendant not doing their job correctly. The woman was in the wrong by thinking she could bring her stroller into the plane, but that does not give the flight attendant the right to physically remove the stroller the way he did. Every airport has tons of security that are trained to deal with these situations. Doesn't look like a call was ever made before the attendant escalated the situation. That's why he'll be fired.

Yeah! Call security so they can beat her and drag her off like they did to ol Dr. Dao.
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[POND_OF_RED]

Yeah! Call security so they can beat her and drag her off like they did to ol Dr. Dao.
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Yeah, the situation might have played out the same way, but at least he would have gotten to keep his job. Flight attendants don't have the right to get physical with customers. It's as simple as that.

[loochy]

Yeah, the situation might have played out the same way, but at least he would have gotten to keep his job. Flight attendants don't have the right to get physical with customers. It's as simple as that.

Oh I know...it's just that when I read your quote that's the first thing I thought of.
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[tooge]

Funny thing to me is that she thought she could bring two strollers onto the plane. WTF? Any person on the planet with 2 shits worth of a brain knows that you have a very small spot to stow shit, and it's about the size of a small duffle bag. What a dumbass. Having said that, the gate attendant should have stopped that shit before she got her two stroller rolling dumb bitch ass onto the plane to begin with.

[chiefzilla1501]

It's interesting that some are taking sides. Seems like all parties didn't act well. Except American Airlines. Their response was excellent. Apologize, suspend the flight attendant without incriminating him, genuinely try to make this right for those impacted. The good news is, airlines seemed to have learned a lesson. American did, at least.

I think American will be rewarded for that. This story hasn't been buzzworthy and there isn't nearly as much outrage. The passenger made a clear mistake, unlike the United flight. Between this and the couple recently trying to weasel their way into better tickets, we'll see the other extreme alternative where entitled passengers dick over everyone.

Hopefully the public keeps the pressure on the airlines to act better. If the airlines act with decency, like this and the weasel couple, they'll find these public incidents will blow over.

[raybec 4]

It's interesting that some are taking sides. Seems like all parties didn't act well. Except American Airlines. Their response was excellent. Apologize, suspend the flight attendant without incriminating him, genuinely try to make this right for those impacted. The good news is, airlines seemed to have learned a lesson. American did, at least.

I think American will be rewarded for that. This story hasn't been buzzworthy and there isn't nearly as much outrage. The passenger made a clear mistake, unlike the United flight. Between this and the couple recently trying to weasel their way into better tickets, we'll see the other extreme alternative where entitled passengers dick over everyone.

Hopefully the public keeps the pressure on the airlines to act better. If the airlines act with decency, like this and the weasel couple, they'll find these public incidents will blow over.
I missed the weasel couple you're referring to. Is it buried in this shit sammich of a thread somewhere?

[KCUnited]

She's hired the same attorney as the United passenger, I'm sure American will be rewarded. Lol. Trying to get in front of the rabid social media outrage by making immediate accommodations only gets you fucked harder.

[chiefzilla1501]

I missed the weasel couple you're referring to. Is it buried in this shit sammich of a thread somewhere?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/17/united-air-removes-couple-traveling-to-wedding-from-plane.html
Couple looked like they were trying to game the situation to weasel free tickets

[chiefzilla1501]

She's hired the same attorney as the United passenger, I'm sure American will be rewarded. Lol. Trying to get in front of the rabid social media outrage by making immediate accommodations only gets you ****ed harder.

It's inconvenient for American and they'll pay more than they want to make it go away.

But yes, they'll get rewarded. I don't know anyone that's complained that American's response was inappropriate. The social media "outrage" has a lot more chatter that acknowledges she wasn't following the rules. And even on CP, a week later we have barely a few pages on the subject.

In the end, I doubt American will pay out much if any. They'll barely suffer reputational damage. And we hopefully see a swing where passengers realize they need to follow some rules too. More importantly, they come off as the airline of reason while United suffers serious reputational damage. Rewarded is the wrong word. But turning this into a nonstory at a time like this would be a big win for them.

[MahiMike]

I blame the terrorists. Seriously. They've made it really suck to fly. The terrorists win every day.