Berry, Houtston & Peters Not at Voluntary OTAs

[Meatloaf]

As per Terez Paylor via Arrowhead Addict.

Just thought I'd post this as a quick FYI. Carry on.

[SAUTO]

That sucks. All around

[DaneMcCloud]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DJ, Tamba, Kelce, Dadi Nicolas did not practice but were present.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/867087794828660737">May 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Hydrae]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DJ, Tamba, Kelce, Dadi Nicolas did not practice but were present.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/867087794828660737">May 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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That is a little different now, huh?

[King_Chief_Fan]

Eh...it's May, who really cares?

[O.city]

It's probably not a big deal but Houston and berry not being there is shitty

[Hammock Parties]

Defense already scared of Mahomie.

[DaneMcCloud]

That is a little different now, huh?

Kelce, DJ and Nicolas are recovering from injuries and surgeries.

Hali is just old.

[DaneMcCloud]

It's probably not a big deal but Houston and berry not being there is shitty

Berry wasn't there last year and had his best season ever.

It also gives the younger guys an opportunity for more reps.

[ptlyon]

Super Bowl run, dashed

[O.city]

Berry wasn't there last year and had his best season ever.

It also gives the younger guys an opportunity for more reps.

He also just signed a big contract and is the supposed leader. In the end I don't really think it matters but the optics of it are weird

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Our best defenders out will boost Mahomys confidence.

[SAUTO]

He also just signed a big contract and is the supposed leader. In the end I don't really think it matters but the optics of it are weird

I agree

[jjchieffan]

He also just signed a big contract and is the supposed leader. In the end I don't really think it matters but the optics of it are weird

But is he tweeting about how much he wants to be a part of the team? Staylor says that the most important thing.

[kcchiefsus]

Houston hasn't done shit in a long time. He needs all the reps he can get.

[RealSNR]

Yawn.

There's plenty of a time for them to do that bullshit cliched "leading the young guys" crap and locker room ass slapping during mandatory mini-camps and training camp.

Don't really care.

[KranzDictum]

Houston hasn't done shit in a long time. He needs all the reps he can get.

Houston probably wants to rest his bad knees as much as he can.

He looked bad in the Steelers loss, they attacked him in the passing game and it was the right thing to do, he couldn't run with anyone and had no push when they sent him after the QB.

If I were a chef fan I would be very worried about Houston being able to recover. It is not like his knee was blown out, the ligament just stopped working.

[FloridaMan88]

June 13-15 is the Chiefs mandatory offseason minicamp... if they don't show up on June 13th it is a story.

Until then it is a non-story.

[Kman34]

What position does Houtston play???

[RippedmyFlesh]

Would have liked to have heard about a healthy Houston looking good but ill try to take Dane's no fucks given.

[FloridaMan88]

Would have liked to have heard about a healthy Houston looking good

That would be hard to assess in a non-contact OTA.

[ptlyon]

June 13-15 is the Chiefs mandatory offseason minicamp... if they don't show up on June 13th it is a story.

Until then it is a non-story.

So I can curb my angst and rage?

It's a slow day, so I really needed to focus my anger issues on something.

[Titty Meat]

Sounds like Berry is hungry for that ring

[jjchieffan]

They are all just taking it easy this year. Everyone knows that next year when Mahomes is the starter is the year​that we go all the way.

[WhawhaWhat]

I don't show up to work when I don't have to either.

[Rasputin]

News about nothing how interdasting.

[ptlyon]

It's Smith present? I hope so so he can learn from Mahomes.

[Hammock Parties]

It's Smith present? I hope so so he can learn from Mahomes.

Someone must serve as Pissboy for Lord Mahomes II.

[JakeF]

Berry is getting paid extra to lead, so show up and lead.

[Rasputin]

Berry Houston and Peters are probably in Africa hunting big game killing elephants thinning the herd for conversation. They are good people.

Berry is leading the expedition.

[BleedingRed]

Berry is getting paid extra to lead, so show up and lead.

Wtf is this shit... are you serious?

Berry is getting PAID more because All-Pro safety's are Rare as fuck right now

[ModSocks]

Berry is getting paid extra to lead, so show up and lead.

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[KChiefs1]

Berry gets paid & is now an asshole?


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[Rasputin]

Berry gets paid & is now an asshole?


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Why is he an asshole for not going to a "VOLUNTARY" practice?


This is non news BFD

[BleedingRed]

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right, some people say some really weird shit

[Rooster]

Jamaal Charles was absent from Chiefs voluntary OTAs as well.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

He also just signed a big contract and is the supposed leader. In the end I don't really think it matters but the optics of it are weird

Berry is getting paid extra to lead, so show up and lead.


nonsense. This isn't HS football.

[TribalElder]

It's probably not a big deal but Houston and berry not being there is shitty

We should pay these guys a bunch of money

Team leaders who lead by example

[Bugeater]

Jamaal Charles was absent from Chiefs voluntary OTAs as well.
OMG I AM FREAKING OUT NOW

[Kiimo]

Berry Houston and Peters are probably in Africa hunting big game killing elephants thinning the herd for conversation. They are good people.

Berry is leading the expedition.


I hope he doesn't encounter any zebras they're like alien horses that might be too much to process

[mdchiefsfan]

Jamaal Charles was absent from Chiefs voluntary OTAs as well.

It's because he was a Donk fan all along.

[Bowser]

https://media.giphy.com/media/UQYtr98lNNrWw/giphy.gif

[Jerok]

It's almost as if the practice is voluntary.

[TribalElder]

Maclin skipped his honeymoon

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/5/23/15682066/chiefs-jeremy-maclin-skips-honeymoon-for-now-says-he-has-something-to-prove

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[DaneMcCloud]

Maclin skipped his honeymoon

He skipped last season, too

[wazu]

It's almost as if the practice is voluntary.

Yep, only need to attend if you give a shit.

[TribalElder]

He skipped last season, too

ROFL
ROFL
ROFL

:clap:

[-King-]

He also just signed a big contract and is the supposed leader. In the end I don't really think it matters but the optics of it are weird

I'm 100% sure Reid and the coaching staff know exactly what Berry, Houston, and Peters are doing and they trust them to keep up with their workouts. I doubt they care whether they come to voluntary OTAs or not. What are they going to miss? Workouts that they can do at home? Playbook installments that they know frontwards and backwards?

[milkman]

Wtf is this shit... are you serious?

Berry is getting PAID more because All-Pro safety's are Rare as **** right now

No, actually you can find a couple of them every year.

[KChiefs1]

He skipped last season, too


How many times has he been married?


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[KChiefs1]

Yep, only need to attend if you give a shit.


Berry got paid so fuck football!


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[tk13]

First negative mark on Mahomes. These guys wouldn't be so lazy if Alex Smith was still the QB. He'd keep this team in line. Time for Ned to chew some guys out.

[Baby Lee]

How did Mahomes' triceps look in his throwing tights?

[notorious]

He skipped last season, too

.

Truth.

[notorious]

Does anyone have information on the Houston guy mentioned in the OP?

Dorsey manages to make other teams trash into treasure, and he might be one if those guys. You never know.

[BleedingRed]

No, actually you can find a couple of them every year.

Lmao

[Baby Lee]

Lmao

Technically, he's right. The AFC and NFC select an All-Pro for each position every year. So every year you can find a couple of All-Pro safeties by looking at the selections. Now that might be the same 2 players year after year, and it's almost certainly never someone just any team can acquire rights to. But you technically can find a couple of them every year.

[ChiefGator]

Does anyone have information on the Houston guy mentioned in the OP?

Dorsey manages to make other teams trash into treasure, and he might be one if those guys. You never know.

Can't mis-spell Houston, even if you try, can ya? ;)

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Not a fuck is given

[notorious]

Can't mis-spell Houston, even if you try, can ya? ;)

It's unpossible.

[WhawhaWhat]

Maclin skipped his honeymoon

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/5/23/15682066/chiefs-jeremy-maclin-skips-honeymoon-for-now-says-he-has-something-to-prove

So she just went without him?

[Sandy Vagina]

So she just went without him?

that's what she and I are telling him, anyway...

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/chi.gif

[Rausch]

Not a **** is given

That...

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

First negative mark on Mahomes. These guys wouldn't be so lazy if Alex Smith was still the QB. He'd keep this team in line. Time for Ned to chew some guys out.

You contain the logical thinking of a 2nd grader. Smith is there as much as possible yet somehow that sets an example of laziness?

Are you high??

[milkman]

You contain the logical thinking of a 2nd grader. Smith is there as much as possible yet somehow that sets an example of laziness?

Are you high??

The stupidity is strong in this one.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Damn that Houtson for not showing up!

[Bowser]

You contain the logical thinking of a 2nd grader. Smith is there as much as possible yet somehow that sets an example of laziness?

Are you high??

I know it's hard to be witty when nearly every post of yours is a troll job, but you can do better than this.

[ThaVirus]

I know it's hard to be witty when nearly every post of yours is a troll job, but you can do better than this.

I don't think he can.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I know it's hard to be witty when nearly every post of yours is a troll job, but you can do better than this.

A troll job? Stating facts is trolling now? Rooting for your team is trolling? Are YOU high?

[Bowser]

A troll job? Stating facts is trolling now? Rooting for your team is trolling? Are YOU high?

Go back and read tk13's post. Get it through your pea brain that it was a classic CP post, then sit back and feel stupid*.








* and yes, I realize that you were trolling me with your response as well.

[Bowser]

I don't think he can.

I'm not arguing

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

So being a troll is anointed to the guy who is right on essentially every quarterback assessment I've put on this site. Good to know. I look forward to Clay losing his bet to me and ridding this place of his disease for 6 months

[MahiMike]

Should have never paid berry

[vailpass]

So being a troll is anointed to the guy who is right on essentially every quarterback assessment I've put on this site. Good to know. I look forward to Clay losing his bet to me and ridding this place of his disease for 6 months

Some day I hope you reveal the exact nature of your relationship to A. Smith. I'm interested to know.

[JakeF]

Chiefs’ Jeremy Maclin skips honeymoon (for now) to attend OTAs, says he has something to prove
by Joel Thorman@ArrowheadPride May 23, 2017, 2:29pm CDT

On the practice field Tuesday at Kansas City Chiefs OTAs was WR Jeremy Maclin. You may have noticed he got married over the weekend so some wondered if he would be here or on his honeymoon. While he said he would “definitely” make it up to his new wife down the road, Maclin said he was back to work because he has something to prove.

“I’m working, man,” Maclin said (via 610 Sports) when asked why he wasn’t on a beach somewhere with his bride. “I got something to prove. I struggled a little bit last year with injuries and everything else. I’m healthy and I’m looking forward to getting this thing back on the road.”

Maclin’s right. He does have something to prove. He’s the Chiefs top receiver both on the field and against the salary cap. They need him to perform if they’re going to succeed in January. He’s been in KC for two years, one was very good and the other not so good. I’d like to see Maclin healthy and playing well in an offense with Travis Kelce and now Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs offense was lacking in the postseason last year so maybe a healthy Maclin makes a difference.

[-King-]

You contain the logical thinking of a 2nd grader. Smith is there as much as possible yet somehow that sets an example of laziness?

Are you high??

:spock:

[KChiefs1]

Keitzman on the attack vs Eric Berry.


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[Halfcan]

Keitzman on the attack vs Eric Berry.


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Let me guess... he called Berry a loser, just like he said about 2 PM.

The guy hates the Chiefs. :rolleyes:

[J Diddy]

So I can curb my angst and rage?

It's a slow day, so I really needed to focus my anger issues on something.

Angry masturbation. That's how I roll.

[WhiteWhale]

KC has had a few perennial pro bowlers who NEVER showed up to voluntaries.

Somehow I don't think Berry, Houston, or Peters are going to forget how to play.

This is for young guys trying to make the team. These guys will be ready.

[keg in kc]

Keitzman on the attack vs Eric Berry.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkKietzman's just a schtick, aimed to draw in the middle-aged hayseed demographic.

[Chiefshrink]

This is common around the league. Not a big deal.

[WhawhaWhat]

Kelvin Benjamin showed up for Panthers OTAs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelvin Benjamin doesn&#39;t look... fit. <a href="https://t.co/g0yVSl5yaf">pic.twitter.com/g0yVSl5yaf</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/867511722998992896">May 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[SAUTO]

Holy shit, he looks like he ate someone.

[Dave Lane]

They are all just taking it easy this year. Everyone knows that next year when Mahomes is the starter is the year​that we go all the way.

Can we cryogenically freeze all of them this year?

[ThaVirus]

Kelvin Benjamin showed up for Panthers OTAs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelvin Benjamin doesn&#39;t look... fit. <a href="https://t.co/g0yVSl5yaf">pic.twitter.com/g0yVSl5yaf</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/867511722998992896">May 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Honestly, I feel like that's just how he always looks. Dude has never been svelte.

[DaneMcCloud]

Honestly, I feel like that's just how he always looks. Dude has never been svelte.

He's never been 265 before, at least not in the NFL

[Baby Lee]

Can we cryogenically freeze all of them this year?

Yeah, because that's how reality works. Just press pause on the PS3 and go search online for cheat codes.

[Baby Lee]

Kelvin Benjamin showed up for Panthers OTAs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelvin Benjamin doesn&#39;t look... fit. <a href="https://t.co/g0yVSl5yaf">pic.twitter.com/g0yVSl5yaf</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/867511722998992896">May 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Forget the blubber. That body language. Looks for all the world like Miss Thang about to take the stage and croon her heart out at the Ramrod.

'bout to buy himself a piece of burger from Burger King'

[BossChief]

What an idiot

[ThaVirus]

He's never been 265 before, at least not in the NFL

I can't find anything definitive on his weight.

Rivera has said he is heavier and needs to make weight, though. Apparently he's shown up to camp overweight going back to FSU as well.

[DaneMcCloud]

I can't find anything definitive on his weight.

Rivera has said he is heavier and needs to make weight, though. Apparently he's shown up to camp overweight going back to FSU as well.

His "playing weight" has always been listed at 240 but good grief, that man doesn't weight 240, even if he's 6'6.

[ThaVirus]

His "playing weight" has always been listed at 240 but good grief, that man doesn't weight 240, even if he's 6'6.

I always wonder about the accuracy of recorded playing weights anyway.

NFL.com still had Poe listed at 346 even after he lost like 30 pounds post-surgery.

[Danguardace]

I can't find anything definitive on his weight.

Rivera has said he is heavier and needs to make weight, though. Apparently he's shown up to camp overweight going back to FSU as well.

You always get a few players (normally Lineman) who just say fuck it just before training camp and retire, having just eaten themselves silly in the off season and the thought of puking their guts up during conditioning is too much.

[Hammock Parties]

Berry looks fucking JACKED

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8615651/Screen_Shot_2017_06_01_at_2.41.52_PM.png

[ModSocks]

Berry looks ****ing JACKED

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8615651/Screen_Shot_2017_06_01_at_2.41.52_PM.png

Im concerned about his conditioning...

[Quesadilla Joe]

#triggered

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> head coach Andy Reid was asked by <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor">@TerezPaylor</a> about Chiefs LB Dee Ford not present at Thursday&#39;s practice. <a href="https://twitter.com/KCStar">@KCStar</a> <a href="https://t.co/a3qHwN8eDu">pic.twitter.com/a3qHwN8eDu</a></p>&mdash; David Eulitt (@davidphotokc) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidphotokc/status/870397016018477057">June 1, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[LoneWolf]

#triggered

#Broncoscum #smalldick

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Troll piece of shit

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Berry looks ****ing JACKED

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8615651/Screen_Shot_2017_06_01_at_2.41.52_PM.png

I wonder if he roams the forrests in his off time accounting for various Bigfoot sightings

[BlackHelicopters]

You want Berry on your side in a bar fight.

[Gravedigger]

#Broncoscum #smalldick

Broncos cum, or Bronco scum?

[O.city]

Houston was there as well

[Titty Meat]

My god Berry is jacked. Anytime I see him at my gym he's doing conditioning drills. Dudes a beast.

[PAChiefsGuy]

My god Berry is jacked. Anytime I see him at my gym he's doing conditioning drills. Dudes a beast.

What gym you go to?

[Baby Lee]

Broncos cum, or Bronco scum?

ROFL beat me [off] to it!!

[Halfcan]

My god Berry is jacked. Anytime I see him at my gym he's doing conditioning drills. Dudes a beast.

If he puts up a few more years like he did last year- Berry will be going to the HOF some day. He really is an extraordinary player in heart, soul, and talent.

[Hammock Parties]

looking thick, shredded, tight. fuaaaaaaarrrk!

also, nice hammer

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18768189_10158648019970234_3684772392821849039_o.jpg?oh=eb293c8030e4b1980ca052400824c27b&oe=59AD883F

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Who is that with him ?

Wow , Berry is chiseled !

[Quesadilla Joe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dee Ford was again absent from practice today, FYI. Second voluntary practice he&#39;s missed</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/872156119585746945">June 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

AND? Your entire defense didnt show up yesterday. "Torched" by a shit QB ROFL

[Kiimo]

looking thick, shredded, tight. fuaaaaaaarrrk!

also, nice hammer

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18768189_10158648019970234_3684772392821849039_o.jpg?oh=eb293c8030e4b1980ca052400824c27b&oe=59AD883F


The thing I'm taking from this picture is Eric Berry has freak monster hands. No wonder he doesn't tuck the ball on picks.

[Baby Lee]

looking thick, shredded, tight. fuaaaaaaarrrk!

also, nice hammer

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18768189_10158648019970234_3684772392821849039_o.jpg?oh=eb293c8030e4b1980ca052400824c27b&oe=59AD883F

Berry is pioneering a new body type to aspire to. The elephant trunk [pun intended].

Don't know I've ever seen such a shoulder to waist ratio.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/70/c7/0670c7cf47df3267067f9ee93583079e.jpg

[bowener]

looking thick, shredded, tight. fuaaaaaaarrrk!

also, nice hammer

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18768189_10158648019970234_3684772392821849039_o.jpg?oh=eb293c8030e4b1980ca052400824c27b&oe=59AD883F

Berry's body type is just bizarre. His shoulders, arms, and hands look like they belong on a 6'5" guy.

[Kiimo]

Berry is pioneering a new body type to aspire to. The elephant trunk [pun intended].

Don't know I've ever seen such a shoulder to waist ratio.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/70/c7/0670c7cf47df3267067f9ee93583079e.jpg

Is the trunk under his shorts

[Baby Lee]

Is the trunk under his shorts

Not my concern.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Is the trunk under his shorts

Chris Jones

[saphojunkie]

Who is that with him ?

Wow , Berry is chiseled !

Me

[Baby Lee]

Chris Jones

ROFL ROFL

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[Kiimo]

I mean, probably the last thing I'd think to do if I noticed my wang was out, unprotected. Whoa my johnson! Better give it a nice grass raspberry at full speed.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 90 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> players on the roster were at minicamp today.<br><br>Tamba Hali, Travis Kelce, Dadi Nicolas &amp; Parker Ehinger didn&#39;t practice.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/874691185088090113">June 13, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Berry, Houston, Peters talking to the media today:

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/videos/Eric-Berry-Spent-Offseason-Training-Smarter/3210db08-9559-45a7-94ea-f69354b17408

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/videos/Justin_Houston_Focused_on_One_Day_at_a_Time/3210a04c-675f-46d9-9d7c-367bc2eec5e8

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/videos/Marcus_Peters_Sticking_to_Same_Routine/321076db-a29a-4018-962b-f2783af8205a

[FloridaMan88]

Shocking... Phillip Gaines not practicing today because of a sore knee.

[The Franchise]

Shocking... Phillip Gaines not practicing today because of a sore knee.

:facepalm:

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Berry missed today with a sore heel.... sounds like the achilles stiffness that he had a little issue with at the end of 2016.

They've gotta do anything and everything to get that right before season.

[Halfcan]

Shocking... Phillip Gaines not practicing today because of a sore knee.

How is he still on this team? :rolleyes:

[DaneMcCloud]

How is he still on this team? :rolleyes:

Because he's cheap

[Rooster]

Shocking... Phillip Gaines not practicing today because of a sore knee.

OMG.. It's a broken record with that guy.

[DaneMcCloud]

Charcandrick West is down to 190 and has been getting first team reps

[RobBlake]

Once you lose some integrity in yor knee it's hard to get it consistently strong again

[bigbucks24]

Article - All players showed up for OTA's.

CP - Awesome! That shows how committed they are. Reid has them all believing.

Article - Some players are not at OTA's.

CP - Big deal. Who cares. It's voluntary.

Homers gonna homer.

[DaneMcCloud]

Article - All players showed up for OTA's.

CP - Awesome! That shows how committed they are. Reid has them all believing.

Article - Some players are not at OTA's.

CP - Big deal. Who cares. It's voluntary.

Homers gonna homer.

Hey Dipshit, all 90 men on the roster showed up for Mandatory OTA's this week.

That's all that matters.

[SAUTO]

Article - All players showed up for OTA's.

CP - Awesome! That shows how committed they are. Reid has them all believing.

Article - Some players are not at OTA's.

CP - Big deal. Who cares. It's voluntary.

Homers gonna homer.
You're obviously a dumb fuck

[cmdrzman]

Hows Mahommes looking in camp? Any clips of him throwing the ball around?

I could see him starting in week 14 to close out the season

[rydogg58]

Hows Mahommes looking in camp? Any clips of him throwing the ball around?

I could see him starting in week 14 to close out the season

You should probably get your eyes checked then, because you are seeing and posting shit that makes no sense whatsoever.

[cmdrzman]

You should probably get your eyes checked then, because you are seeing and posting shit that makes no sense whatsoever.

Winston, Mariota, Bridgewater, Bortles, Carr, Wentz, Goff, Luck, Tannehill, all started their rookie year...hell even Paxton Lynch played his rookie year... Trubisky and Watson look to get playing time for the Bears and Texans as rookies if not starting-

Whattya say we take the diapers off of Mahomes already- The Chiefs gave up 2 1st rd picks for the guy-

The Chiefs aint going to the SB with Alex Smith- You know it, I know it, Andy Reid knows it and the American people know it-

There's nothing Alex Smith does that impresses anybody- Mahomes can do everything Smith does if not more... Give the kid some playing time and let him finish out the year if not before-

With the Chiefs defense- they can win a 1st rd playoff against the Colt, Ravens Titans etc... What better way to build a young QB's confidence than to let him finish out the year winning games and get a playoff win under his belt going into the 2018 season-

This aint Rodgers with Favre were talking about... take the diapers off the kid and get him some game time

[Hammock Parties]

Hows Mahommes looking in camp? Any clips of him throwing the ball around?


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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Mahomes is already light years ahead of Lynch

[rydogg58]

Winston, Mariota, Bridgewater, Bortles, Carr, Wentz, Goff, Luck, Tannehill, all started their rookie year...hell even Paxton Lynch played his rookie year... Trubisky and Watson look to get playing time for the Bears and Texans as rookies if not starting-

Whattya say we take the diapers off of Mahomes already- The Chiefs gave up 2 1st rd picks for the guy-

The Chiefs aint going to the SB with Alex Smith- You know it, I know it, Andy Reid knows it and the American people know it-

There's nothing Alex Smith does that impresses anybody- Mahomes can do everything Smith does if not more... Give the kid some playing time and let him finish out the year if not before-

With the Chiefs defense- they can win a 1st rd playoff against the Colt, Ravens Titans etc... What better way to build a young QB's confidence than to let him finish out the year winning games and get a playoff win under his belt going into the 2018 season-

This aint Rodgers with Favre were talking about... take the diapers off the kid and get him some game time

I agree with everything you said. However, I do not believe that the kid plays any significant amount of time this year. Nothing I have read leads me to believe that he will do anything other than sit and learn this year.

[DaneMcCloud]

Winston, Mariota, Bridgewater, Bortles, Carr, Wentz, Goff, Luck, Tannehill, all started their rookie year...hell even Paxton Lynch played his rookie year... Trubisky and Watson look to get playing time for the Bears and Texans as rookies if not starting-

Whattya say we take the diapers off of Mahomes already- The Chiefs gave up 2 1st rd picks for the guy-

The Chiefs aint going to the SB with Alex Smith- You know it, I know it, Andy Reid knows it and the American people know it-

There's nothing Alex Smith does that impresses anybody- Mahomes can do everything Smith does if not more... Give the kid some playing time and let him finish out the year if not before-

With the Chiefs defense- they can win a 1st rd playoff against the Colt, Ravens Titans etc... What better way to build a young QB's confidence than to let him finish out the year winning games and get a playoff win under his belt going into the 2018 season-

This aint Rodgers with Favre were talking about... take the diapers off the kid and get him some game time
Epic dipshittery at its finest

[cmdrzman]

Epic dipshittery at its finest

Look, here's the bottom line sweet tits-

If anybody on this board thinks the Chiefs are winning the SB this year with Alex Smith under center you're dumber than you post-

It's just not going to happen

Not as long as Brady is playing in NE- All you can hope for is for him to take a couple shots to the coconut this year, win his 6th and retire- Once that happens it's all open for every AFC team-

Alex Smith knows this is his last year in KC as a starter- a year that could possibly end his career as a NFL starter unless he somehow lands on a contending team looking for a vet QB and I'm looking through every team and I just don't see one other than his old team the Niners and they are nowhere in the conversation of competing-

There's just no reason to sit and waste time with Mahomes... Roll with the dude- let him iron out his inconsistancy and get him some playing time so he can experience the speed of the NFL and most importantly see and react to different defensive schemes so that he can roll into 2018 a little more prepared-

I just don't see the whole purpose of making him hold a clip board on the sidelines- it's a waste of time... take the diapers off the kid.... it's not like the Chiefs spent a lat 2nd on the guy- they invested a lot in him like the Bucs did with Winston, Titans with Mariota, Wentz with the Eagles etc... Just roll with him... Kids got huge upside.. let him learn the game and let him take the Chiefs to the next level in 2019

[DaneMcCloud]

Look, here's the bottom line sweet tits-

If anybody on this board thinks the Chiefs are winning the SB this year with Alex Smith under center you're dumber than you post-

It's just not going to happen

Not as long as Brady is playing in NE- All you can hope for is for him to take a couple shots to the coconut this year, win his 6th and retire- Once that happens it's all open for every AFC team-

Alex Smith knows this is his last year in KC as a starter- a year that could possibly end his career as a NFL starter unless he somehow lands on a contending team looking for a vet QB and I'm looking through every team and I just don't see one other than his old team the Niners and they are nowhere in the conversation of competing-

There's just no reason to sit and waste time with Mahomes... Roll with the dude- let him iron out his inconsistancy and get him some playing time so he can experience the speed of the NFL and most importantly see and react to different defensive schemes so that he can roll into 2018 a little more prepared-

I just don't see the whole purpose of making him hold a clip board on the sidelines- it's a waste of time... take the diapers off the kid.... it's not like the Chiefs spent a lat 2nd on the guy- they invested a lot in him like the Bucs did with Winston, Titans with Mariota, Wentz with the Eagles etc... Just roll with him... Kids got huge upside.. let him learn the game and let him take the Chiefs to the next level in 2019

You're a fucking moron.

He's 21 years old and a true junior that's NEVER played under center.

Fuck off, Dummy.

[LoneWolf]

Look, here's the bottom line sweet tits-

If anybody on this board thinks the Chiefs are winning the SB this year with Alex Smith under center you're dumber than you post-

It's just not going to happen

Not as long as Brady is playing in NE- All you can hope for is for him to take a couple shots to the coconut this year, win his 6th and retire- Once that happens it's all open for every AFC team-

Alex Smith knows this is his last year in KC as a starter- a year that could possibly end his career as a NFL starter unless he somehow lands on a contending team looking for a vet QB and I'm looking through every team and I just don't see one other than his old team the Niners and they are nowhere in the conversation of competing-

There's just no reason to sit and waste time with Mahomes... Roll with the dude- let him iron out his inconsistancy and get him some playing time so he can experience the speed of the NFL and most importantly see and react to different defensive schemes so that he can roll into 2018 a little more prepared-

I just don't see the whole purpose of making him hold a clip board on the sidelines- it's a waste of time... take the diapers off the kid.... it's not like the Chiefs spent a lat 2nd on the guy- they invested a lot in him like the Bucs did with Winston, Titans with Mariota, Wentz with the Eagles etc... Just roll with him... Kids got huge upside.. let him learn the game and let him take the Chiefs to the next level in 2019

Listen up, dumbfuck. Mahomes is not ready to play right now. He needs to sit on the sidelines this year and learn how to run a pro style offense. He is a true Junior who didn't take snaps from under center, he didn't have to spit out the lengthy plays required in Reid's offense, and Reid's offense is very complicated. There's a much greater chance of fucking this kid up beyond repair if you play him this season and he takes a beating and plays poorly than there is of him learning on the fly.

The Chiefs won 12 games last year with Smith under center and there's no reason to think the team can't replicate that success this season.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Chiefs are too loaded and take care of the ball too well to be bad enough to play Pat this year

[cmdrzman]

You're a ****ing moron.

He's 21 years old and a true junior that's NEVER played under center.

**** off, Dummy.

How bout you tongue punch my fartbox?

Winston was 21 and he started his rookie year- Mariota was 21, Bridgewater was 21- Plenty of QB's started their rookie year in the NFL at age 21

Let it go concerned soccer mom and take the diapers off the kid already-

[LoneWolf]

How bout you tongue punch my fartbox?

Winston was 21 and he started his rookie year- Mariota was 21, Bridgewater was 21- Plenty of QB's started their rookie year in the NFL at age 21

Let it go concerned soccer mom and take the diapers off the kid already-

What don't you understand about this? The situations for Winston, Mariota, and Bridgewater were completely different than the situation Mahomes is in. They all were drafted by shitty teams without established, successful veteran quarterbacks. Mahomes was drafted by an excellent football team with an established and successful veteran QB. The best thing for both the team and Mahomes is for him to sit behind Smith this season and learn how to play QB in Reid's offense.

[Danguardace]

How bout you tongue punch my fartbox?

Winston was 21 and he started his rookie year- Mariota was 21, Bridgewater was 21- Plenty of QB's started their rookie year in the NFL at age 21

Let it go concerned soccer mom and take the diapers off the kid already-

Reid/Dorsey still need to justify their position by building a solid team and winning games. If they Rush Mahomes in with this tough schedule could destroy his confidence and undermine GM/HC positions.

Plus Chiefs dont have Round 1 Pick, how stupid will they look if they hand the Bills a top 10 pick.

This team can compete for a Superbowl, with a (hopefully) healthy Defense and Hill/Kelce on offense. A division with with 2 rookie HCs and the Raiders who we own despite their media hype.

I dont see why you rush the Kid in with so much to play for.

[-King-]

What don't you understand about this? The situations for Winston, Mariota, and Bridgewater were completely different than the situation Mahomes is in. They all were drafted by shitty teams without established, successful veteran quarterbacks. Mahomes was drafted by an excellent football team with an established and successful veteran QB. The best thing for both the team and Mahomes is for him to sit behind Smith this season and learn how to play QB in Reid's offense.

None of those had to completely rework their mechanics.
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[LoneWolf]

None of those had to completely rework their mechanics.
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I don't think Mahomes has to completely rework his mechanics either. He needs to learn how to take a snap from under center, actually call plays in the huddle, and run a pro style offense. His throwing mechanics are fine. His completion percentage last season shows he is an accurate passer.

[-King-]

I don't think Mahomes has to completely rework his mechanics either. He needs to learn how to take a snap from under center, actually call plays in the huddle, and run a pro style offense. His throwing mechanics are fine. His completion percentage last season shows he is an accurate passer.

Completion percentage means nothing. Every single QB in the air raid offense has a good completion percentage. It's hard not to when throwing windows are the size of 18 wheelers and defenders suck.

Check out this chart of QBs in that offense and tell me what completion percentages mean. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/3/4174382/nfl-draft-2013-geno-smith-air-raid-offense
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[Baby Lee]

I don't think Mahomes has to completely rework his mechanics either. He needs to learn how to take a snap from under center, actually call plays in the huddle, and run a pro style offense. His throwing mechanics are fine. His completion percentage last season shows he is an accurate passer.

I don't think Mahomes 'has to' do any one particular thing. The best thing to happen in the next year or two is for him to;

1) have NFL speed slow down for him.
and
2) know Arrowhead, the personnel, and most importantly his weapons like a comfortable pair of shoes [and vice versa].

Nice to have the luxury of adjusting like that without the danger of devastating injury, a la RGIII.

[cmdrzman]

Reid/Dorsey still need to justify their position by building a solid team and winning games. If they Rush Mahomes in with this tough schedule could destroy his confidence and undermine GM/HC positions.

Plus Chiefs dont have Round 1 Pick, how stupid will they look if they hand the Bills a top 10 pick.

This team can compete for a Superbowl, with a (hopefully) healthy Defense and Hill/Kelce on offense. A division with with 2 rookie HCs and the Raiders who we own despite their media hype.

I dont see why you rush the Kid in with so much to play for.

Do you honestly believe Alex Smith is gonna give his best? He knows that team doesn't trust him or believe in him because they just gave up two 1st rd picks for a QB- He knows this is his last year in KC. No sense in putting off the inevitable- As soon as Alex throws a couple bad passes or the Chiefs get upset at home by some bad team the fans are gonna be calling for the kid-

[cmdrzman]

What don't you understand about this? The situations for Winston, Mariota, and Bridgewater were completely different than the situation Mahomes is in. They all were drafted by shitty teams without established, successful veteran quarterbacks. Mahomes was drafted by an excellent football team with an established and successful veteran QB. The best thing for both the team and Mahomes is for him to sit behind Smith this season and learn how to play QB in Reid's offense.

Steelers went 9-7, 13-3, 11-5 the prior 3 years before Big Ben was drafted and he started his rookie year....They were gonna do the same thing with him, sit him for a year until Maddox got hurt and he went in week 3 and the rest is history

They were established and a better team than the current Chiefs

[Baby Lee]

As soon as Alex throws a couple bad passes or the Chiefs get upset at home by some bad team the fans are gonna be calling for the kid-

That's on retarded fans like you.

Alex doesn't give a shit what fans are clamoring for, or how long they think he has on his career. He'll be playing for his teammates, and vice versa. Not one of them is guaranteed so much as tomorrow in a league that can separate your cranium from your spine in a moment, or explode your knee like a roll of biscuits in the sun.

He's the starting quarterback this fall for a quality football team. He'll comport himself as such. Maybe take notes.

[Danguardace]

Do you honestly believe Alex Smith is gonna give his best? He knows that team doesn't trust him or believe in him because they just gave up two 1st rd picks for a QB- He knows this is his last year in KC. No sense in putting off the inevitable- As soon as Alex throws a couple bad passes or the Chiefs get upset at home by some bad team the fans are gonna be calling for the kid-

I have no doubt he will, he will want to win a ring this season maybe his best remaining chance.

[KChiefs1]

Shocking... Phillip Gaines not practicing today because of a sore knee.

Is he related to Kyle Zimmer?


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[Sandy Vagina]

That's on retarded fans like you.

Alex doesn't give a shit what fans are clamoring for, or how long they think he has on his career. He'll be playing for his teammates, family, and Foundation $. Not one of them is guaranteed so much as tomorrow in a league that can separate your cranium from your spine in a moment, or explode your knee like a roll of biscuits in the sun.

He's the starting quarterback this fall for a quality football team. He'll comport himself as such. Maybe take notes.

All of THIS.. with a minor fix.

I don't even GAF which one of them is taking starting snaps anymore. Smith has four more good years, is getting his money, and Chiefs' football at this point transcends which name is on the back of the jersey. It will be a fun season regardless. :)

[KChiefs1]

GMFB on the Chiefs:
https://youtu.be/e80LUIV8PHE
https://youtu.be/Vby5uDfuzpw
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[kcchiefsus]

Steelers went 9-7, 13-3, 11-5 the prior 3 years before Big Ben was drafted and he started his rookie year....They were gonna do the same thing with him, sit him for a year until Maddox got hurt and he went in week 3 and the rest is history

They were established and a better team than the current Chiefs

So, Big Ben only went in because Maddox got injured. Likewise, Mahomes won't see the field unless Smith is injured.

[cmdrzman]

So, Big Ben only went in because Maddox got injured. Likewise, Mahomes won't see the field unless Smith is injured.

My point was, they planned on sitting him a year and threw him in week 3 because Maddox was hurt and he played very well-

Chiefs offense is a dink and dunk manage the ball type offense- I'm not saying the kid has to go all Air Coryell and stuff- but whats wrong with him handing the ball to West and hitting safe short passes? It's what Smith does anyways-

He's got arguably one of the best TE and a big target in Kelce- who by they way was targeted 30% of the passes thrown by Smith. Hell, I could hit Kelce on dig route holding a beer in one hand a a cigarette in the other...The Chiefs are not at the level of the Pats or Steelers- yet anyways- There's some good up and coming teams in the AFC that can beat the Chiefs.. Titans, Raiders, Colts etc.. I could see your point if the Chiefs made the AFCCG with ease last year or even went deep into the playoffs the last two years but they didn't- And right now there's nothing to suggest they'll do any better in the playoffs this year that they did the last 2 years. There's some hot young AFC QB's on the rise and as soon as Brady and Big Ben retire- which could be in a year or two- the whole AFC is gonna be wide open... Wouldn't it make sense to start jockeying for position now? why not get the kid up to speed with guys like Mariota, Carr and Luck?

[ptlyon]

Chiefs offense is a dink and dunk manage the ball type offense- I'm not saying the kid has to go all Air Coryell and stuff- but whats wrong with him handing the ball to West and hitting safe short passes? It's what Smith does anyways-


Because, it sucks.

They've finally decided the experiment with Alex Smith is over. There's only so much he can or is willing to do.

They didn't bring Mahomes in to train him to be Alex Smith. They brought him in to see if he can be the elete QB every team wants.

[Danguardace]

Wouldn't it make sense to start jockeying for position now? why not get the kid up to speed with guys like Mariota, Carr and Luck?

I think others have made this point to you (tried anyway), until proven otherwise Alex Smith is a viable NFL QB who on this team can win 10-12 games. Those other teams had piss poor situations so really had no choice but to start their Rookies. they couldn't get any worse.

Smith may be a plateau QB but I think he has earned at least the right to prove he can taken this team on again. This is practically a Contract year as Chiefs can cut him in 18 with little Cap hit.

[cmdrzman]

Because, it sucks.

They've finally decided the experiment with Alex Smith is over. There's only so much he can or is willing to do.

They didn't bring Mahomes in to train him to be Alex Smith. They brought him in to see if he can be the elete QB every team wants.

I understand that-

I agree, it's over with Smith- everybody knows it- but if he's gonna dink and dunk his way through the season and rely on the defense and ST's to win games why not let the kid do the same thing for a year then? I'm not suggesting they dont turn the kid loose in 2018, but there's simply no better way to develop a QB than to give him game time experience- Bring him along slowly in 2017 with this current playbook.., then open it up in 2018- It's what the Raiders did with Carr and it resulted it big time dividends

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Mahomes will get to take reps against the first team defense all year as a backup... those reps are as valuable as anything. He can make mistakes and learn on the fly without any major effect on games.

[Baby Lee]

I understand that-

I agree, it's over with Smith- everybody knows it- but if he's gonna dink and dunk his way through the season and rely on the defense and ST's to win games why not let the kid do the same thing for a year then? I'm not suggesting they dont turn the kid loose in 2018, but there's simply no better way to develop a QB than to give him game time experience- Bring him along slowly in 2017 with this current playbook.., then open it up in 2018- It's what the Raiders did with Carr and it resulted it big time dividends

Because if they come up one millimeter short of where they were last year, with at least one playoff victory, they will have a squad of solid veterans they're trying to sell on the new guy right when they've squandered a year of their collective viability to let that new kid toy with their career like an entitled toddler.

And that's the bright side. That's not counting the risk of a prominent anchor or two of the team losing his career to injury in the mean time, or Mahomes getting lost in the fog of play and pulling a Dee Ford misreading a play and instead of just running the wrong direction on a tackle, running into a kneesplosion or an 'I'm Batman' situation.

I get it, you see Alex as a ceiling short of the SB and the story ends there. Try for a moment to imagine that his teammates see it differently.

[Chiefnj2]

Mahomes will get to take reps against the first team defense all year as a backup... those reps are as valuable as anything. He can make mistakes and learn on the fly without any major effect on games.

I respectfully disagree. MMQB article sums it up nicely:

Every team would love to keep its highly drafted quarterback under wraps for a season or two so he can slowly transform into a franchise player, but it’s a pipedream in today’s NFL


Every year we see NFL teams draft an unready quarterback in the first or second round, with the intention of having him learn from the bench as a rookie. The Bears (Mitchell Trubisky), the Texans (Deshaun Watson) and especially the Chiefs (Pat Mahomes) will toy with this idea in 2017. It’s a logical and admirable approach. Every team wants its guy to be like Aaron Rodgers emerging from Brett Favre’s shadow, turning an apprenticeship into stardom. The only problem: that never happens anymore.

Literally. It … does … not … happen.

Since 2006, no team that drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds sat him for the entirety of his rookie season and then saw him become a long-term franchise quarterback. In fact, only two QBs in that time who sat out their entire rookie seasons have even gone on to start at least 48 games: Colin Kaepernick, with the 49ers, and Chad Henne, with the Dolphins.
The previous generation of quarterbacks saw a handful of highly drafted players sit and learn. The best examples were Carson Palmer in Cincinnati, Drew Brees in San Diego, Philip Rivers in San Diego, and, of course, Rodgers in Green Bay. There were also the unique cases of Tony Romo and Tom Brady, guys who were brought in to fill the back of the roster and wound up developing well enough to become quality starters once they took the field. (Incidentally, both permanently replaced Drew Bledsoe.)
But those quarterbacks were all drafted at least 12 years ago. No one has followed that path since.

What’s changed in those dozen years? You can start at everyone’s favorite place and blame the culture. The NFL is an impatient, win-now league more than ever! There’s some truth to that, plus the simple fact that teams who draft a quarterback in the early rounds usually do so because they didn’t have a good one to begin with. The Favre-led Packers selecting Rodgers is an extreme outlier. Many teams with highly drafted QBs don’t have a solid starter for him to sit behind.

But the bigger issue is time. In 2011, the current collective bargaining agreement significantly reduced practice hours, both during the season and and during the offseason. Naturally, it’s the backup players’ reps that disappear. There’s barely enough time for the first-teamers to practice. Which means the only way to evaluate a QB and let him learn kinetically is to put him with your first team. And voila! There’s your new starting quarterback.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Because if they come up one millimeter short of where they were last year, with at least one playoff victory, they will have a squad of solid veterans they're trying to sell on the new guy right when they've squandered a year of their collective viability to let that new kid toy with their career like an entitled toddler.

And that's the bright side. That's not counting the risk of a prominent anchor or two of the team losing his career to injury in the mean time, or Mahomes getting lost in the fog of play and pulling a Dee Ford misreading a play and instead of just running the wrong direction on a tackle, running into a kneesplosion or an 'I'm Batman' situation.

I get it, you see Alex as a ceiling short of the SB and the story ends there. Try for a moment to imagine that his teammates see it differently.

Some solid points in this post....

Guys like DJ and Hali know that they have two years here max, and likely just one more... they obviously would think that Alex is their best chance to win in 2017. Nothing wrong with that. It is why the transition to Mahomes should be rather seamless. It will be the passing of the torch from one era to the next entirely.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

From the Mahomes perspective, I try to come up with different ways to view it. One thought that came to mind was to imagine yourself taking a huge job promotion. You are in line to become the CEO of a major company, and you have a little experience with that type of work at a much smaller business, but nothing quite like you are about to take on.

Now, there are two potential options. You can either be thrown into the fire as the head man immediately even though you and everyone else knows that you could use some time to learn about what the job entails and how it should properly be done at said level.... or, you get a window of time to train as an assistant to the person who you will soon be replacing. You get a few months to learn and see how to/or not to approach each situation.

When I think of it in a real world context like that, I always come away thinking that teams are absolutely foolish to not give rookie QBs a developmental window as the backup. Very few prospects are ready to make that jump.

[Danguardace]

Some solid points in this post....

Guys like DJ and Hali know that they have two years here max, and likely just one more... they obviously would think that Alex is their best chance to win in 2017. Nothing wrong with that. It is why the transition to Mahomes should be rather seamless. It will be the passing of the torch from one era to the next entirely.

Totally agree with this,

If Alex can win 10 or more games and get us into the Play-offs I'll take that right now. I'd rather that then be a joke team like the Jets.

[thabear04]

Gotta love Chris Jones energy.

https://instagram.com/p/BVXSvfwFfry/

[RunKC]

Because, it sucks.

They've finally decided the experiment with Alex Smith is over. There's only so much he can or is willing to do.

They didn't bring Mahomes in to train him to be Alex Smith. They brought him in to see if he can be the elete QB every team wants.

I think they brought him in to learn to be exactly like Alex in many ways. Mahomes rarely beat teams strictly from the pocket. He constantly moved out of clean pockets to try to make plays on the run. That's fine if you do that sometimes, but his foundation should be staying in the pocket, reading defenses and killing teams in the intermediate game most of the time.

They don't have to teach Mahomes much of anything on deep passes and deep accuracy, which made him a great prospect. They do need to teach him to play with good mechanics and learn the game.

Dak Prescott threw 65% of his passes short last season. Ton Brady does the same. Alex Smith does the same. All 3 won double digit games.

The strategy is successful. Andy is going to turn Mahomes into a WCO QB. I wouldn't expect to see Mahomes bombing deep balls down the field a ton bc that's not how Andy's offense works. Definitely more than Alex though.

[penbrook]

Gotta love Chris Jones energy.

https://instagram.com/p/BVXSvfwFfry/

I'm here in Alaska and you're still gonna be here in Kansas City ������

[ModSocks]

Gotta love Chris Jones energy.

https://instagram.com/p/BVXSvfwFfry/

LMAO

Skeeel Player, Skeel player!

[staylor26]

Gotta love Chris Jones energy.

https://instagram.com/p/BVXSvfwFfry/

Chris Jones is great man. Fucking love that guy

[BossChief]

I think they brought him in to learn to be exactly like Alex in many ways. Mahomes rarely beat teams strictly from the pocket. He constantly moved out of clean pockets to try to make plays on the run. That's fine if you do that sometimes, but his foundation should be staying in the pocket, reading defenses and killing teams in the intermediate game most of the time.

They don't have to teach Mahomes much of anything on deep passes and deep accuracy, which made him a great prospect. They do need to teach him to play with good mechanics and learn the game.

Dak Prescott threw 65% of his passes short last season. Ton Brady does the same. Alex Smith does the same. All 3 won double digit games.

The strategy is successful. Andy is going to turn Mahomes into a WCO QB. I wouldn't expect to see Mahomes bombing deep balls down the field a ton bc that's not how Andy's offense works. Definitely more than Alex though.

That's been proven untrue multiple times by looking at Vick and Mcnabbs stats and espn split stats.

[RunKC]

That's been proven untrue multiple times by looking at Vick and Mcnabbs stats and espn split stats.

Context matters.

Vick threw 55 passes over 20 yards in 2010 and 50 in 2011. Alex obviously threw few bc our WR's weren't great and he was scared to.

Even still, Alex had 40 passes over 20 yards last season. Vick's highest average was 4.5 passes downfield to Alex's best 2.5, and Vick had a young Maclin and DeSean.

2 more deep passes a game isn't proving your point.

[ChiefGator]

Even still, Alex had 40 passes over 20 yards last season. Vick's highest average was 4.5 passes downfield to Alex's best 2.5, and Vick had a young Maclin and DeSean.

2 more deep passes a game isn't proving your point.

In this case, 2 is a pretty big difference. If your numbers are right, Vick threw the ball downfield 80% more often than Alex Smith. That does matter.

What is the league average anyway? That would make your point better.

[KChiefs1]

FYI:
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[FloridaMan88]

Looks like Andy has lost some weight...

http://prod.images.chiefs.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/CHIEFS/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/clubimages/2017/06-June/tempFL_17_001--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

[RunKC]

In this case, 2 is a pretty big difference. If your numbers are right, Vick threw the ball downfield 80% more often than Alex Smith. That does matter.

What is the league average anyway? That would make your point better.

I thought 6 a game would be high end and 4 average.

Big Ben was 5 last year and Luck was 5.6 as a rookie.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Looks like Andy has lost some weight...

http://prod.images.chiefs.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/CHIEFS/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/clubimages/2017/06-June/tempFL_17_001--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

Is that a good thing? Idk if im just not used to him being fat or not, but he looks a little unhealthy

[Hammock Parties]

Context matters.

Vick threw 55 passes over 20 yards in 2010 and 50 in 2011. Alex obviously threw few bc our WR's weren't great and he was scared to.

Even still, Alex had 40 passes over 20 yards last season.

LMAO

Alex Smith was 12 for 40 on those passes. 428 yards, 2 TD 2 INT

Vick was 22 for 55 in 2010 and did it in only 12 games. 870 yards, 7 TD, 3 INT.

That is a HUGE difference.

You are being intellectually dishonest.

[Hammock Parties]

People asked about league average...I compiled this a few months ago. Alex Smith was 27th in the NFL in yards gained on downfield completions. Fewer completions than CASE KEENUM.

Downfield passing (20+)

Ben Roethlisberger 31-81 1,016 13 TD
Kirk Cousins 30-68 1,110 9 TD
Andrew Luck 26-55 887 8 TD
Russell Wilson 26-58 886 6 TD
Matt Ryan 25-52 995 9 TD
Drew Brees 22-50 920 6 TD
Aaron Rodgers 21-72 723 6 TD
Philip Rivers 20-58 763 9 TD
Derek Carr 20-46 710 7 TD
Andy Dalton 19-48 753 3 TD
Marcus Mariota 19-50 540 6 TD
Sam Bradford 18-40 620 4 TD
Matt Stafford 17-48 710 3 TD
Jameis Winston 17-55 516 11 TD
Eli Manning 17-66 576 5 TD
Ryan Tannehill 16-40 640 8 TD
Dak Prescott 16-43 526 6 TD
Tyrod Taylor 16-53 635 6 TD
Cam Newton 16-59 634 9 TD
Tom Brady 15-42 620 5 TD
Joe Flacco 14-57 516 5 TD
Carson Wentz 14-53 441 4 TD
Ryan Fitzpatrick 14-43 431 1 TD
Carson Palmer 12-55 442 4 TD
Trevor Siemian 12-39 451 4 TD
Case Keenum 13-36 498 2 TD
27. Alex Smith 12-40 427 2 TD
Brock Osweiler 10-51 333 4 TD
Blake Bortles 10-58 304 1 TD
Jay Cutler 10-19 350 2 TD
Colin Kaepernick 8-23 255 2 TD
Josh McCown 7-22 238 2 TD
Matt Barkley 7-26 202 2 TD
Cody Kessler 6-19 182 1 TD
Brian Hoyer 5-21 172 1 TD
Blaine Gabbert 2-12 52 1 TD
RGIII 4-17 162


I also looked at intermediate passing. Smith was 28th in intermediate completions, 24th in intermediate completion percentage and 27th in intermediate quarterback rating.

[RunKC]

LMAO

Alex Smith was 12 for 40 on those passes. 428 yards, 2 TD 2 INT

Vick was 22 for 55 in 2010 and did it in only 12 games. 870 yards, 7 TD, 3 INT.

That is a HUGE difference.

You are being intellectually dishonest.

This isn't what the conversation is about.

[Hammock Parties]

In 2004 Donovan McNabb threw 71 passes over 20 yards.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/1753/year/2004

So next time...maybe do a little research.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Brady 15-42 ROFL

These stats once again mean jack shit to winning games

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Rodgers only half a completion more per game lulz dumb ass stats

[Hammock Parties]

You are cherry picking exceptions to the rule and ignoring the fact that Smith was at the bottom of the league not ONLY in deep passing but also in intermediate passing.

You know there is no point to even defending him at this point so please stop.

[ptlyon]

Mahomes will have 101 out of 100 in over 20 yards in his second year

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I'm not dedending anyone, but it proves those numbers have nothing to do with winning football games

[RunKC]

You are cherry picking exceptions to the rule and ignoring the fact that Smith was at the bottom of the league not ONLY in deep passing but also in intermediate passing.

You know there is no point to even defending him at this point so please stop.

Nobody is defending Alex dude. You're getting your panties in a bunch over nothing.ROFL

[Hammock Parties]

I'm not dedending anyone, but it proves those numbers have nothing to do with winning football games

Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers were all in the fucking conference championship games last year, and all were in the Top 8 for yards on deep throws.

Keep talking out your ass.

Fucking look at that list. For the most part, the top of that list is the good QBs and the bottom of that list is the dregs.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Brady won it all and was not...

[Hammock Parties]

Brady won it all and was not...

FUCK YOU, CLOWN

STOP CHERRY PICKING

[Hammock Parties]

We didn't draft a kid with a fucking howitzer strapped to his right shoulder to "play like Alex."

We're going down the field, jack.

Get ready, assholes.

[RunKC]

We aren't going down the field 100+ times with Mahomes. He's going to throw a lot of screens whether you like it or not.

It will seem like a lot of deep passes compared to Alex though.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's a dink and dunk league now

[Baby Lee]

FUCK YOU, CLOWN

STOP CHERRY PICKING

Citing Brady as an example of possible SB success is 'cherry picking.'

Claynus is effing Keyser Trollse.

[SAUTO]

Citing Brady as an example of possible SB success is 'cherry picking.'

Claynus is effing Keyser Trollse.

Picking the one out of four isn't cherry picking?

[RunKC]

It's a dink and dunk league now

NO IT'S NOT MOTHER****ER! ME THROW DEEP. ME LIKE DEEP PASS. I SAY MAHOMES IS JOHNNY FOOTBALL WIF PEE WEE ARM BUT NOW I SAY MAHOMES HAS CANNON AND WE THROW BALL DEEP EVERY PLAY.

/Clay

[RunKC]

Brady 15-42 ROFL

These stats once again mean jack shit to winning games

Thanks for proving my point. Dink and dunk league now bc teams that do that are the one's winning.

Proven formula.

[Baby Lee]

Picking the one out of four isn't cherry picking?

When you pick the one who's been 6 times, that's a delicious cherry.

[Hammock Parties]

Thanks for proving my point. Dink and dunk league now bc teams that do that are the one's winning.

Proven formula.

FYI Brady was the the leagues most efficient intermediate passer. He had a 150 QB rating and completed 69 percent of his throws in the 11-20 yard range. He had almost DOUBLE the yards Alex put up on intermediate throws and three times the TD passes.

Smith was 28th in intermediate passing completions.

You can't just dink and dunk all day.

[KChiefs1]

Good mini-camp podcast:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-chiefs/id1141081555?mt=2&i=386572760




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[Hammock Parties]

One deep pass on each side, one made, one not, was the difference between winning and losing our playoff game.

http://i.imgur.com/jZy7Z04.gif

http://giant.gfycat.com/LongKindheartedHapuku.gif

So don't sit here and spout this bullshit. Deep passing matters. It wins and loses games.

[SAUTO]

When you pick the one who's been 6 times, that's a delicious cherry.

Agreed ROFL

[RunKC]

FYI Brady was the the leagues most efficient intermediate passer. He had a 150 QB rating and completed 69 percent of his throws in the 11-20 yard range. He had almost DOUBLE the yards Alex put up on intermediate throws and three times the TD passes.

Smith was 28th in intermediate passing completions.

You can't just dink and dunk all day.

This is why they drafted Mahomes.

But maybe they shouldn't have. After all...he's just Johnny Football with a weak arm, right Clay?

[Hammock Parties]

This is why they drafted Mahomes.

But maybe they shouldn't have. After all...he's just Johnny Football with a weak arm, right Clay?

I never said he had a weak arm. Not once.

[RunKC]

You said he was JFF...JFF has a weak arm. Maybe don't compare prospects with great arms to prospects with No arm strength.

[DaneMcCloud]

Agreed ROFL

Only Claynus can turn a thread about defensive players not attending Voluntary OTA's into an Alex Smith thread.

Ban the fucker from the thread.

[Hammock Parties]

Only Claynus can turn a thread about defensive players not attending Voluntary OTA's into an Alex Smith thread.

Ban the fucker from the thread.

RunKC did that. I didn't bring up Alex Smith.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=12917855&postcount=175

[Hammock Parties]

You said he was JFF...JFF has a weak arm. Maybe don't compare prospects with great arms to prospects with No arm strength.

Johnny Football does not have a weak arm.

Nice try, though.

And others have compared the two. They do have similar playing styles.

[O.city]

Johnny has a weak arm

[Hammock Parties]

I NEVER COMPARED THEIR ARMS

RUNKC IS A FUCKING LIAR

[Pasta Little Brioni]

If not for a bogus holding call that game goes to OT... And before you whine that it was holding...The standard was set by previous and calls let go on the drive after.

[cmdrzman]

There's nothing that will accomplish anything positive for the Chiefs to sit Mahomes for a year- nothing at all... Look, gonna give it to ya straight- Alex is not the long term answer-take the diapers off the kid already- Two 1st rd picks? Man, muddafugger play the dude already - Let him take his lumps and get him fully prepared for the 2018 season-

Look, here's truth on your doorstep-

Chiefs will not make the AFCCG.. even if they do... Do any of you knuckleheads really think you can go into Foxboro in Dec and beat them??? LOL.. it's simply not gonna happen with Alex Smith

Whattya say we just stop wasting everybodies time and just give the kid the nod-

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Moron

[TLO]

HEY LOOK... THIS TURNED INTO AN ALEX SMITH THREAD LOLOLOLOL.

Damn this place is getting old. I hope Alex Smith leads this team to a Super Bowl this year just so I can see you Alex bashing dipshits cherry pick stats and explain why he wasn't the reason we won.

[rydogg58]

I wouldn't give a shit if the reincarnated corpse of Osama Bin Laden comes back and leads the Chiefs to the Super Bowl. I'd buy that jersey if that happened. I don't care who leads the team to the Super Bowl, as long as we go. And every single poster on this board feels the same way.

[Hydrae]

There's nothing that will accomplish anything positive for the Chiefs to sit Mahomes for a year- nothing at all... Look, gonna give it to ya straight- Alex is not the long term answer-take the diapers off the kid already- Two 1st rd picks? Man, muddafugger play the dude already - Let him take his lumps and get him fully prepared for the 2018 season-

Look, here's truth on your doorstep-

Chiefs will not make the AFCCG.. even if they do... Do any of you knuckleheads really think you can go into Foxboro in Dec and beat them??? LOL.. it's simply not gonna happen with Alex Smith

Whattya say we just stop wasting everybodies time and just give the kid the nod-

Not one person has said that Alex should continue starting this year because they think he will lead us deep into the playoffs. Looking long term though, Mahomes can and should take time to learn the game at this level. Yes, he might be successful right off the bat. Or he could be like David Carr and wind up shell shocked and ruined. There go your two first round draft picks, up in smoke because you don't have the patience to be sure it is done at the right time.

[cmdrzman]

Not one person has said that Alex should continue starting this year because they think he will lead us deep into the playoffs. Looking long term though, Mahomes can and should take time to learn the game at this level. Yes, he might be successful right off the bat. Or he could be like David Carr and wind up shell shocked and ruined. There go your two first round draft picks, up in smoke because you don't have the patience to be sure it is done at the right time.

We'll see week 1 vs the Pats

Does anybody here really think the Chiefs are going to go into Foxboro in Jan on a sub zero snow infested field and just "put one on the Pats?"

LOL

Alex Smith can barely complete a pass more than 20 yards on a dry field-

There's nothing Alex Smith will accomplish in 2017...

[cmdrzman]

By the way- Troy Aikman went 1-11 as a rookie starter

Theres' simply no reason to not start the kid this year

[Pasta Little Brioni]

clayrzman

[Coogs]

Not one person has said that Alex should continue starting this year because they think he will lead us deep into the playoffs. Looking long term though, Mahomes can and should take time to learn the game at this level. Yes, he might be successful right off the bat. Or he could be like David Carr and wind up shell shocked and ruined. There go your two first round draft picks, up in smoke because you don't have the patience to be sure it is done at the right time.

David Carr was the 1st round pick for the expansion team Texans. Not quite the same situation.

[FloridaMan88]

Looks like Vermeil was at yesterday's final minicamp practice:

http://prod.images.chiefs.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/CHIEFS/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/clubimages/2017/06-June/tempMini_Camp_2_004--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

[suzzer99]

It's starting to become obvious Mahomes is going to take this board to a whole new level of stupid until he starts. Should be entertaining.

[JakeF]

Apparently this place makes you wait 6 months before you're about to post links or start threads.

Parker Ehinger may not be ready for Chiefs training camp
by Joel Thorman@ArrowheadPride Jun 16, 2017, 8:04am CDT

One injury note coming from the end of the Kansas City Chiefs mandatory minicamp this week is G Parker Ehinger. It sounds like the Chiefs aren’t counting on him to be ready for training camp. How do we know that? Because Andy Reid said they’re not counting on him to be ready for training camp.

“I think it will be a race for him to be ready to go,” Reid said when asked about Ehinger via quotes from the Chiefs. “I’m not counting on that.”

The Chiefs are pretty rock solid at the other four spots on the offensive line. Ehinger was a draft pick last year who won the job out of camp but then got injured and was done for the year. He’s still pretty inexperienced.

Not many teams can plug in a backup who has 34 starts under his belt but that’s what the Chiefs have with Zach Fulton. The Chiefs offensive line still looks like a potential strength this year with or without Ehinger.

[DaneMcCloud]

Parker Ehinger may not be ready for Chiefs training camp

Yeah, no shit.

Ehinger tore his ACL in October 2016. Since HGH testing began, it's taking guys at least 12 months to recover and in some cases, much longer.

Ehinger will start out the season on the PUP and if he's not ready by Week 8, he'll go on IR.

Anyone counting on him to start the season would be foolish.

[RunKC]

The Tiller signing pretty much signaled this. At least Fulton is some what decent and not Mike McGlynn terrible.

[DaneMcCloud]

The Tiller signing pretty much signaled this. At least Fulton is some what decent and not Mike McGlynn terrible.

Don't sleep on Damiem Mama.

If he's properly conditioned, he might challenge for the left guard spot.

[Halfcan]

There's nothing that will accomplish anything positive for the Chiefs to sit Mahomes for a year- nothing at all... Look, gonna give it to ya straight- Alex is not the long term answer-take the diapers off the kid already- Two 1st rd picks? Man, muddafugger play the dude already - Let him take his lumps and get him fully prepared for the 2018 season-

Look, here's truth on your doorstep-

Chiefs will not make the AFCCG.. even if they do... Do any of you knuckleheads really think you can go into Foxboro in Dec and beat them??? LOL.. it's simply not gonna happen with Alex Smith

Whattya say we just stop wasting everybodies time and just give the kid the nod-

ROFL Maybe we should let 2PM fully learn the playbook first?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Don't sleep on Damiem Mama.

If he's properly conditioned, he might challenge for the left guard spot.

Mama could completely take the starting job long term if he is really, really good. I like Ehinger, but they aren't going to hand him that job back coming off an ACL if the replacement is playing well.

[ChiefGator]

Mama could completely take the starting job long term if he is really, really good. I like Ehinger, but they aren't going to hand him that job back coming off an ACL if the replacement is playing well.

That would be a good problem to have.

[RealSNR]

Completion percentage means nothing. Every single QB in the air raid offense has a good completion percentage. It's hard not to when throwing windows are the size of 18 wheelers and defenders suck.



Check out this chart of QBs in that offense and tell me what completion percentages mean. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/3/4174382/nfl-draft-2013-geno-smith-air-raid-offense

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Do you really believe Mahomes has poor accuracy? With as much as he has to adjust to in the league, do you think Dorsey and Reid would draft somebody at QB solely for athletic talent and nothing else.

Mahomes isn't Tebow.

[Aspengc8]

Yeah, no shit.

Ehinger tore his ACL in October 2016. Since HGH testing began, it's taking guys at least 12 months to recover and in some cases, much longer.

Ehinger will start out the season on the PUP and if he's not ready by Week 8, he'll go on IR.

Anyone counting on him to start the season would be foolish.

It has nothing to do with HGH testing. The half life of that stuff is like 2 hours. Good luck nailing someone when you are giving them at least 24hr notification.

[staylor26]

Do you really believe Mahomes has poor accuracy? With as much as he has to adjust to in the league, do you think Dorsey and Reid would draft somebody at QB solely for athletic talent and nothing else.

Mahomes isn't Tebow.

This fucking contrarian is in every thread doing the same shit. Pay him no mind.

[Discuss Thrower]

Is that a good thing? Idk if im just not used to him being fat or not, but he looks a little unhealthy

Seems like he loses his bulk in the Spring and gains it all back during the regular season.

Makes sense with the insane as fuck work hours coaching staffs put in in the NFL.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

This fucking contrarian is in every thread doing the same shit. Pay him no mind.

King has become a joke. Does this shit in EVERY thread on EVERY topic

[DaneMcCloud]

Is that a good thing? Idk if im just not used to him being fat or not, but he looks a little unhealthy
Unhealthy?

LMAO

He's not as obese as before but good fucking grief, he doesn't look "unhealthy".

[Nickel D]

Jus' wonderin' what the word "voluntary" really means...

[RobBlake]

We'll see week 1 vs the Pats

Does anybody here really think the Chiefs are going to go into Foxboro in Jan on a sub zero snow infested field and just "put one on the Pats?"

LOL

Alex Smith can barely complete a pass more than 20 yards on a dry field-

There's nothing Alex Smith will accomplish in 2017...

do you realize that every other team has the same odds of going into Foxboro and "put one on the Pats?"

lets use some logic.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

do you realize that every other team has the same odds of going into Foxboro and "put one on the Pats?"

lets use some logic.

It's a claymult. Throwing deeeeeep suuuure woukd get that job done.

[raybec 4]

By the way- Troy Aikman went 1-11 as a rookie starter

Theres' simply no reason to not start the kid this year

Some times I wonder why we don't get more n00bs, the we get these fucking window lickers and I'm kinda glad we don't get more n00bs

[-King-]

Do you really believe Mahomes has poor accuracy? With as much as he has to adjust to in the league, do you think Dorsey and Reid would draft somebody at QB solely for athletic talent and nothing else.

Mahomes isn't Tebow.

I don't think it's "poor". But it's not great. He got away with a lot of throws a Texas tech because of the offense he played in and the fact that the big 12 is the worst defensive conference in the nation. I think part of that was his mechanics. Fix his mechanics and you fix the majority of his problems and he'll likely be an elite QB.
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[-King-]

This fucking contrarian is in every thread doing the same shit. Pay him no mind.

How dare I say mahomes has terrible mechanics. Guess I'm just being a contrarian. Everybody else thinks his mechanics are great. Right?
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

He doesn't have terrible mechanics. Unorthodox does not equal bad.

[RealSNR]

How dare I say mahomes has terrible mechanics. Guess I'm just being a contrarian. Everybody else thinks his mechanics are great. Right?
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Do you even know the first thing about throwing mechanics or are you just spouting football fan buzzwords?

[JakeF]

Chiefs make roster moves, including signing Donald Hawkins

Posted by Charean Williams on June 16, 2017, 7:57 PM EDT

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The Chiefs signed offensive tackle Donald Hawkins and cornerback Trevon Hartfield. To make room, they released offensive lineman Corin Brooks and cornerback Stanley Jean-Baptiste.

Hawkins, 25, worked out with the Chiefs during their three-day minicamp this week. The former University of Texas standout went undrafted in 2014 but has spent time with the Eagles, Browns, Cowboys, Dolphins, 49ers, Panthers and Jets during his NFL career.

Hartfield, 25, went undrafted out of Southwestern Oklahoma State in 2016 after 73 tackles, 25 pass breakups and five interceptions his senior season. He has spent time with the Cardinals and Titans.

The Chiefs signed Brooks as an undrafted rookie last month out of the University of Texas of the Permian Basin, while Jean-Baptiste was a second-round pick of the Saints in 2014.

[Baby Lee]

Some times I wonder why we don't get more n00bs, the we get these fucking window lickers and I'm kinda glad we don't get more n00bs

This place is practically pigskinpark at this point, only we don't have a Denise spouting political rhetoric to blame. Actually, these days it looks like the DC subforum drives traffic for the site. People have near terminal PTSD over past QB woes juxtaposed with possible future QB joy, and they can't enjoy the moment where we have a competent FO and coaching staff and a talented squad.

[-King-]

Do you even know the first thing about throwing mechanics or are you just spouting football fan buzzwords?

You can't find anyone that knows anything about throwing a football that says he has average much less good mechanics.

It's the main reason he's sitting this year.
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[Chief Roundup]

You can't find anyone that knows anything about throwing a football that says he has average much less good mechanics.

It's the main reason he's sitting this year.
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WOW. His problem is his footwork and decision making, not his actually throwing mechanics.
Gruden as well as most all analysts have talked about his accuracy, how good it is. He just threw a lot of balls that he should not have thrown, but as Gruden said when the defense is giving up 60+ points a game he had to try to score on every drive to win games.