Alex Smith’s trade value and the 2018 quarterback market

[Hammock Parties]

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/05/24/alex-smith-trade-value-2018-quarterback-market-chiefs-patrick-mahomes/

The 2018 offseason, at least looking ahead one year, could not be worse for Smith’s availability.

The heralded draft class expected to be available next spring is loaded with supposed franchise quarterbacks. Prospects will rise and fall, but the buzz on this entire class is legit with very real No. 1 options up top for teams to consider.

Even more, three key veterans could be available.

Drew Brees is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent in a year. Kirk Cousins is currently on a franchise tag with Washington and it’s unknown whether he will be there long-term. The New England Patriots will also face a serious decision about what to do with Jimmy Garoppolo, who will be an unrestricted free agent.

That’s a minimum of six other options outside of Smith.

Teams who will likely be in the hunt for a new starter:

Cleveland Browns – Yes, despite the selection of DeShone Kizer.
New York Jets – Christian Hackenberg?
San Francisco 49ers – Cousins or a rookie.
Jacksonville Jaguars – Bortles time is up.
Arizona Cardinals – How much longer will Carson Palmer play?
New Orleans Saints – If Brees walks…
Pittsburgh Steelers – Big Ben openly talks retirement now.
L.A. Chargers – How long until Rivers does the same?
Buffalo Bills – The new regime seems halfhearted on Tyrod Taylor.
Washington Redskins – If Cousins leaves…
Minnesota Vikings – Do they keep Sam Bradford around?

This doesn’t even account for other things that could go wrong or injuries occurring. In other words, for those who think the market next year is too crowded with options, think again.

There’s plenty of desperation to go around.

[Direckshun]

I bet we could net a 2nd or 3rd for him.

Hard to believe Reid and Dorsey would agree to send him anywhere that doesn't work for Alex, though.

[19now11]

alex will be starting for the chiefs in 18. cry now bitch.

[RealSNR]

Darnold, Rosen, and a bucket of AIDS.

Josh Allen hype will fizzle out quicker than Tyler Wilson did.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Most coaches with bad QB's are scurred bitches. Therefore, Alex will be considered a...I can't believe I would even type this shit..."prize" to aforementioned scurred bitches.

Alex Smith:

When you just want to keep your job.

[BlackHelicopters]

All it takes is one stupid GM. Someone will give us a 2.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

All it takes is one stupid GM. Someone will give us a 2.

That would be sweet. Hell I'd be happy to get a 3rd, and would consider it a wonderful bargain.

[notorious]

Why not trade him this year?

[beach tribe]

alex will be starting for the chiefs in 18. cry now bitch.

Don't be stupid..

Well.... anymore.

[beach tribe]

Alex would be a fantastic get for an up and coming team who needs to establish a winning culture.

I don't think it would a a dumb move at all for a team to draft a QB high and trade for Smith.

[beach tribe]

Why not trade him this year?

It would put too much pressure on the franchise to start Mahomes too early.

[beach tribe]

I think the Jets should trade for him next off-season..

[notorious]

It would put too much pressure on the franchise to start Mahomes too early.

The only person that will know the answer is Andy Reid.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I think the Jets should trade for him next off-season..

I like it!

[beach tribe]

The only person that will know the answer is Andy Reid.

Can't argue with this...

We have had a ton of talking head talk about him needing all this time, but WTF do they know...really?

I am a fan of him sitting but if Reid thinks he's ready, who am I to argue.

People thought Wentz would need time too. They said the same thing about Russel Wilson..

I guess we'll see.

QBs have done really well coming in lately. I guess it all depends on how fast he comes along.

[Bugeater]

Fuck Arrowhead Addict and their click-bait format. I'm not clicking onto 3-4 pages to read your stupid shitty article.

[Hydrae]

Alex would be a fantastic get for an up and coming team who needs to establish a winning culture.

I don't think it would a a dumb move at all for a team to draft a QB high and trade for Smith.

That was my thought. Let him finish his career mentoring young QBs.

[Bowser]

Fuck Arrowhead Addict and their click-bait format. I'm not clicking onto 3-4 pages to read your stupid shitty article.

/Skip Towne

[Eureka]

Why not trade him this year?

Because KC has a chance to get to the Playoffs and a chance at winning a SB. Starting Mahomes and giving him some experience may cost some wins this year.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Alex would be a fantastic get for an up and coming team who needs to establish a winning culture.

I don't think it would a a dumb move at all for a team to draft a QB high and trade for Smith.

How they gonna do that. We be takin their 1st for him.

[Reerun_KC]

Because KC has a chance to get to the Playoffs and a chance at winning a SB. Starting Mahomes and giving him some experience may cost some wins this year.

Yeah no.... Smith isn't leading this team to a Superbowl​.

Pure homeristic masterbation pipedream...

[Rasputin]

Because KC has a chance to get to the Playoffs and a chance at winning a SB. Starting Mahomes and giving him some experience may cost some wins this year.

By all accounts Alex Smith holds us back from the Super Bowl.

[Red Dawg]

Get serious. Nobody is trading for Smith at his age. A 2? That's laughable.

[Rasputin]

Playing Mahomes II could also give us wins but people are afraid to rush him.

[Rasputin]

Get serious. Nobody is trading for Smith at his age. A 2? That's laughable.

Cowboys started Matt Cassell after his abortion here so anything is possible.

[notorious]

Because KC has a chance to get to the Playoffs and a chance at winning a SB. Starting Mahomes and giving him some experience may cost some wins this year.

What is going to change on offense to make this happen?


I am not being a dick like most on here, just curious what you think is going to change.

[Reerun_KC]

What is going to change on offense to make this happen?


I am not being a dick like most on here, just curious what you think is going to change.

You're a dick.

[TribalElder]

If PM is a quick learner perhaps Alex goes to buffalo

[notorious]

You're a dick.

Learned from the best.


I am looking your way when I say this.

[Deberg_1990]

Yeah no.... Smith isn't leading this team to a Superbowl​.

Pure homeristic masterbation pipedream...

A limited Alex Smith gives the Chiefs a better chance of winning more games this year than a talented but raw rookie

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

What is going to change on offense to make this happen?


I am not being a dick like most on here, just curious what you think is going to change.

Well, there was an article about how Nagy and Reid are really working to get Alex to look downfield more .

[New World Order]

Most coaches with bad QB's are scurred bitches. Therefore, Alex will be considered a...I can't believe I would even type this shit..."prize" to aforementioned scurred bitches.

Alex Smith:

When you just want to keep your job.


Yeah it's kinda like moving from aids to herpes

[Hammock Parties]

Well, there was an article about how Nagy and Reid are really working to get Alex to look downfield more .

Yeah we haven't read that two years in a row and laughed as he remained a limp dick pussbucket at all.

[Red Dawg]

Cowboys started Matt Cassell after his abortion here so anything is possible.

I'll give you that one. Anything is possible.

[HemiEd]

Why not trade him this year?

Sure lets rush our QBOTF just like they did last time they drafted a QB 3 score and 4 years ago. It worked so well then they just might make it work again, or I mean this time.

Chiefs fans are the reason the Hunts wouldn't allow the gamble for that long.

[Hammock Parties]

Why not trade him this year?

Huge cap hit.

Potential to ruin Mahomes.

[notorious]

Sure lets rush our QBOTF just like they did last time they drafted a QB 3 score and 4 years ago. It worked so well then they just might make it work again, or I mean this time.

Chiefs fans are the reason the Hunts wouldn't allow the gamble for that long.

Reid will make the right decision.


Try not to compare today's NFL with the NFL from 35 years ago. It's nothing alike.

[Tombstone RJ]

All it takes is one stupid GM. Someone will give us a 2.

Nope, not even close.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Fuck Arrowhead Addict and their click-bait format. I'm not clicking onto 3-4 pages to read your stupid shitty article.

Word! That site is pure fucking garbage.

Yeah it's kinda like moving from aids to herpes

You're right, and I'd rather have the AIDS. At least the AIDS would kill you shortly. With herpes, you're stuck watching that gutless moron for decades.

Reid will make the right decision.


Try not to compare today's NFL with the NFL from 35 years ago. It's nothing alike.

Damn straight.

[Couch-Potato]

depends on how far mahomes comes along, and how disgruntled Alex becomes. I imagine the transition to mahomes will come sometime next season to ensure that Alex is around as a really solid backup, but if mahomes looks really solid and someone like (BUF, NYG, CLE) needs some stability for a season or two I could see us leveraging a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him. He's worth a lot to us as a backup so it would depend on how the season's going and at what point in the season.

[Hammock Parties]

I imagine the transition to mahomes will come sometime next season to ensure that Alex is around as a really solid backup

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[BlackOp]

Smith stays through 2018. I think Dorsey and Reid develop him like they said they would. He is only 21. Dorsey used this method with Rodgers...no reason to think that strategy has changed. It worked out pretty well...

If not, someone will give up a 2nd for him. Starting, play-off caliber QBs have value. He would make the Jets, Buffalo and Jacksonville potential post season teams. Thats a lot of return on a single draft pick.

Chiefs are in an enviable position...12-4 record with a stable starting QB. This allows them to sit on a 1st round QB. How many other teams have that luxury right now...probably only the Patriots. I bet the Texans wouldn't mind being able to sit Watson.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I am truly taken aback by the delusion surrounding Smith's tenure and Mahomes start.

[dls6501]

A limited Alex Smith gives the Chiefs a better chance of winning more games this year than a talented but raw rookie

You have absolutely no idea if this is true or not.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Alex Smith is really good at not being bad... and it's that simple. He is the starter right now and should be for 2017, though. That being said, the #1 priority of this franchise right now must be Mahomes' development and they need to make him the starter if and when he is ready to go out there and just play-- not think.

I have no doubt that he is more talented than Smith and most other QBs in the league. So why not let him soak everything in for a year and a half, gain full confidence in the process, and then let him loose (likely at the start of 2018).

This luxury is one that the Chiefs cannot mess up. 2PM can follow in the path of other greats who have been afforded that time to sit and learn such as Favre, Brady, Rodgers, etc.

[KChiefs1]

Well, there was an article about how Nagy and Reid are really working to get Alex to look downfield more .


I'll believe it when I see it.



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[Eureka]

What is going to change on offense to make this happen?


I am not being a dick like most on here, just curious what you think is going to change.

Another year in this offense for Smith helps but I would say the best influence is the pressure a 1st round drafted QB. Smith may perform under that kind of pressure.

The Chiefs could start Mahomes now like the Raiders started Carr his rookie season.

[ChiefGator]

Well, there was an article about how Nagy and Reid are really working to get Alex to look downfield more .

I'll believe it when I see it.

No, there really was that article. In 2015, 2016, and 2017.

[Tombstone RJ]

Smith stays through 2018. I think Dorsey and Reid develop him like they said they would. He is only 21. Dorsey used this method with Rodgers...no reason to think that strategy has changed. It worked out pretty well...

If not, someone will give up a 2nd for him. Starting, play-off caliber QBs have value. He would make the Jets, Buffalo and Jacksonville potential post season teams. Thats a lot of return on a single draft pick.

Chiefs are in an enviable position...12-4 record with a stable starting QB. This allows them to sit on a 1st round QB. How many other teams have that luxury right now...probably only the Patriots. I bet the Texans wouldn't mind being able to sit Watson.

lol, no team will trade a second round pick for Smith. Smith is a known commodity, he is what he is, a check down QB who's only claim to fame is he doesn't turn the ball over. In other words, he's a backup QB on the downside of his career.

[notorious]

Another year in this offense for Smith helps but I would say the best influence is the pressure a 1st round drafted QB. Smith may perform under that kind of pressure.

The Chiefs could start Mahomes now like the Raiders started Carr his rookie season.

I would love to see Smith thrive under pressure, I just don't see it happening. He has been in this system for a looong time.

I hope I am 100% wrong.

[Lzen]

I have a hard time believing that the Chiefs will be able to get the kind of value out of trading Smith that this guy is suggesting. Still, I think this section says a lot and is probably right on the money, IMO.

Alex Smith’s contract can come off of the books in 2018. One year from now, Smith will be headed for the biggest cap hit of his career at $20.6 million. That’s over $4 million more than Mahomes will make during the entire life of his rookie deal. The Chiefs can get rid of Smith with a mere $3.6 million of dead cap space (that amount is the same whether designated pre- or post-June 1 cut or if traded). That’s a ton of extra space to lock up other players or sign a free agent.

And that's why I don't believe Alex will be here in 2018.

[BigBeauford]

I am still dumbfounded that people think we will not only waste 2 years of Pat' s rookie contract, but that we will pay dead man walking Smith through 2018 his salary when we can get off the hook.

Edit: Shit Lzen beat me to it.

[Hammock Parties]

And that's why I don't believe Alex will be here in 2018.

https://i.giphy.com/nGOZPKGbB3xpm.webp

The only people who haven't accepted this, who didn't accept it the minute the pick was made, are clueless Alexsexuals and homers who think the Chiefs are a Super Bowl contender with ASS11 at the helm.

It's a fantasy either way. His clock is ticking.

[Chiefnj2]

Smith stays through 2018. I think Dorsey and Reid develop him like they said they would. He is only 21. Dorsey used this method with Rodgers...no reason to think that strategy has changed. It worked out pretty well...
.

1. Rodgers was sitting behind a first ballot hall of famer. Mahomes is not.
2. Do you really think Rodgers would have busted if he played after 1 year?
3. The strategy that you refer to, hasn't been used in over 8 years. There is no proof anymore that waiting helps with long term development.

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

Well, there was an article about how Nagy and Reid are really working to get Alex to look downfield more .

Looking downfield and actually throwing downfield accurately are two totally different concepts. I look at a lot of Corvettes but I don't actually buy any of them.

[Mile High Mania]

Smith will be 34 next year, right? A R2... yeah, good luck with that.

[ChiefsCountry]

Smith will be 34 next year, right? A R2... yeah, good luck with that.

Hopefully some dumbass franchise makes the same mistake the Chiefs did.

[beach tribe]

https://i.giphy.com/nGOZPKGbB3xpm.webp

The only people who haven't accepted this, who didn't accept it the minute the pick was made, are clueless Alexsexuals and homers who think the Chiefs are a Super Bowl contender with ASS11 at the helm.

It's a fantasy either way. His clock is ticking.

This.

Seriously, people.

There is no way in hell Alex is on this roster in 2018...

None.

[Eleazar]

Who's going to trade draft picks for a 34 year old QB who was mediocre in his prime, and that everyone knows we're going to release?

[Mr. Plow]

/Skip Towne

LMAO

[beach tribe]

Who's going to trade draft picks for a 34 year old QB who was mediocre in his prime, and that everyone knows we're going to release?

There aren't any QBs available with Smith's resume.

He would be an awesome transition QB.

Like I said, It would actually be really smart for a team to draft a QB and trade for Smith to make sure you get him. The QB talent in this league is shit right now.

Teams will be hard after Smith if he hits the market, make no mistake.

The guy has won a lot of games..

[jallmon]

lol, no team will trade a second round pick for Smith. Smith is a known commodity, he is what he is, a check down QB who's only claim to fame is he doesn't turn the ball over. In other words, he's a backup QB on the downside of his career.

I wouldn't be surprised to see horseface in Dungver take a flyer on Smiff to help to his own stable of qbs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

lol, no team will trade a second round pick for Smith. Smith is a known commodity, he is what he is, a check down QB who's only claim to fame is he doesn't turn the ball over. In other words, he's a backup QB on the downside of his career.

Elway will be begging for his services after your upcoming train wreck of a season.

Best pre-order your number 11 today!

[The Franchise]

We might be able to get a 4th for him. And we should take that immediately if someone offers it to us.

[Shields68]

I have a hard time believing that the Chiefs will be able to get the kind of value out of trading Smith that this guy is suggesting. Still, I think this section says a lot and is probably right on the money, IMO.



And that's why I don't believe Alex will be here in 2018.

It is also why a team will not give up a 2nd. Huge one year cap hit, have to negotiate another contract right away and a good chance the Chiefs release him if Mahomes is at all ready.

[Rausch]

There aren't any QBs available with Smith's resume.

He would be an awesome transition QB.

In 1 or 2 years hell be 33/34 and, at best, a cheap signed free agent...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We might be able to get a 4th for him. And we should take that immediately if someone offers it to us.

Smith is still a good option for most of the lesser franchises in the league and if said franchises include a head coach and/or GM on the bubble, Dorsey should be able to dolphin rape them for compensation.

[The Franchise]

Smith is still a good option for most of the lesser franchises in the league and if said franchises include a head coach and/or GM on the bubble, Dorsey should be able to dolphin rape them for compensation.

Not for his age and for the money left on his contract.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Not for his age and for the money left on his contract.

True. It's a hard sell, but someone will be desperate enough to step-up.

There's been a lot of talk about how the end of this season is the perfect time for the Chiefs to part ways with Smith from a financial standpoint.
Do the Chiefs have any benefit in keeping him on?
And I don't mean to train Mahomes, as we all know that Land of Make Believe-shit isn't happening.

[Rausch]

True. It's a hard sell, but someone will be desperate enough to step-up.


No, they won't.

No one traded for Rich Gannon...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

No, they won't.

No one traded for Rich Gannon...

Gannon didn't have John Dorsey as his GM. :)

[The Franchise]

It's obviously all going to depend on his stats this year but I don't see anyone trading for a 33-34 year old Alex Smith who's contract will be $14.5 million (after the trade) and on the last year of his deal. It would take a team who has a young QB or just drafted a young QB and has NO other option at QB. And that team would have to be ok with how Alex plays the game. But it doesn't matter...because if he throws for 15 TDs again....no team is trading for him.

[The Franchise]

It's obviously all going to depend on his stats this year but I don't see anyone trading for a 33-34 year old Alex Smith who's contract will be $14.5 million (after the trade) and on the last year of his deal. It would take a team who has a young QB or just drafted a young QB and has NO other option at QB. And that team would have to be ok with how Alex plays the game. But it doesn't matter...because if he throws for 15 TDs again....no team is trading for him.

An add on to my post.

There is ONE team that might trade for him.....and that would be the Jags. But that would take Bortles failing horribly this season and them being in the position to take a QB next year (Top 3) pick. If they think that they have a team built up enough that Smith's style could carry them into the playoffs....they may go for it. But he would still have to have an ok year this year for it to happen. No one is trading for a QB who threw 15 TDs two years in a row.

[Rasputin]

Wouldn't it be better to just cut him at the end of the season rather than giving our top 2nd round draft slot next year for a team to take him off our hands? -

[BlackOp]

lol, no team will trade a second round pick for Smith. Smith is a known commodity, he is what he is, a check down QB who's only claim to fame is he doesn't turn the ball over. In other words, he's a backup QB on the downside of his career.

Yeah..he is 11-5 and 12-4 over the past two years. Been hanging 30+ on your heralded defense for the last 3 match-ups.

You should know about back-up QBs though...it all that's on your roster.

Smith has value...the league doesn't share the same hate CP projects on him. There are HC/GMs on the bubble...that have no viable starting veteran QB. He hasn't been on a team that finished worse than 9-7 in 6 years. Sam Bradford's best season was 7-9...when he was a rookie. He has never had a single winning season and the Vikings gave up a 1st round pick for him.

People act like having the 4th best record in the NFL (since coming to the Chiefs) is something any QB could do. It's pretty warped...

[Meatloaf]

Given that Alex has 2 years left on his contract, it strikes me that this year was the PERFECT year to draft a quarterback. Having two years remaining with Smith gives the Chiefs all sorts of flexibility moving forward. If 2PM totally really struggles to grasp things (personally I view this as highly unlikely), you still have a viable QB situation in place. On the other hand, WHEN 2PM shows mastery of the offense, Smith will likely still have some trade value (and don't be mistaken, there are numerous teams that'd love to have Smith as their QB...afterall, all he does is win...and there are a bunch of teams that would be ecstatic with a QB that wins)!

In my mind, this is yet another reason to feel good about the Dorsey/Reid combo. These guys are true pro's and have the Chiefs pointed to a Super Bowl in the near term. Yikes, I can't believe I said that, but so many good things have/are happening that it's hard not to come to that conclusion.

Go Chiefs!!!!

[BlackOp]

Given that Alex has 2 years left on his contract, it strikes me that this year was the PERFECT year to draft a quarterback. Having two years remaining with Smith gives the Chiefs all sorts of flexibility moving forward. If 2PM totally really struggles to grasp things (personally I view this as highly unlikely), you still have a viable QB situation in place. On the other hand, WHEN 2PM shows mastery of the offense, Smith will likely still have some trade value (and don't be mistaken, there are numerous teams that'd love to have Smith as their QB...afterall, all he does is win...and there are a bunch of teams that would be ecstatic with a QB that wins)!

In my mind, this is yet another reason to feel good about the Dorsey/Reid combo. These guys are true pro's and have the Chiefs pointed to a Super Bowl in the near term. Yikes, I can't believe I said that, but so many good things have/are happening that it's hard not to come to that conclusion.

Go Chiefs!!!!

Good post...Mahomes is very raw and Ried's offense is complex. They say it takes 3 years to fully grasp it.

I dont see Mahomes being ready by 2018...and I think Smith has a good year. He hasn't really had anyone behind him to potentially take his job. He now has pressure. He was the #1 ranked QB the year they drafted Kaepernick...until he got hurt.

[Rasputin]

Yeah..he is 11-5 and 12-4 over the past two years. Been hanging 30+ on your heralded defense for the last 3 match-ups.

You should know about back-up QBs though...it all that's on your roster.

Smith has value...the league doesn't share the same hate CP projects on him. There are HC/GMs on the bubble...that have no viable starting veteran QB. He hasn't been on a team that finished worse than 9-7 in 6 years. Sam Bradford's best season was 7-9...when he was a rookie. He has never had a single winning season and the Vikings gave up a 1st round pick for him.

People act like having the 4th best record in the NFL (since coming to the Chiefs) is something any QB could do. It's pretty warped...

How much credit would you give Rex Grossman taking Da Bears to their last Super Bowl?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yeah..he is 11-5 and 12-4 over the past two years. Been hanging 30+ on your heralded defense for the last 3 match-ups.

You should know about back-up QBs though...it all that's on your roster.

Smith has value...the league doesn't share the same hate CP projects on him. There are HC/GMs on the bubble...that have no viable starting veteran QB. He hasn't been on a team that finished worse than 9-7 in 6 years. Sam Bradford's best season was 7-9...when he was a rookie. He has never had a single winning season and the Vikings gave up a 1st round pick for him.

People act like having the 4th best record in the NFL (since coming to the Chiefs) is something any QB could do. It's pretty warped...

You know what people also do?

They fail to recognize that the Chiefs roster Reid inherited was hardly chopped liver, and it should come as no shock that a legitimate NFL coach was able to turn that squad in to winners, and would have done so regardless of WHO the fucking QB was.
As has been said many times and is still the ONLY truth worth associating with Smith; he won't win the game for you, but he won't lose it for you either.

[BlackOp]

How much credit would you give Rex Grossman taking Da Bears to their last Super Bowl?

Rex Grossman didn't post 6 straight winning seasons....see the difference? Smith is a solid, consistent starting QB.

[Rasputin]

Rex Grossman didn't post 6 straight winning seasons....see the difference? Smith is a solid starting QB.

Well true but Rex Grossman does have better post-season success than Alex Smith.

See the difference? & I'm not saying Rex Grossman is/was a solid starting quarterback but he had the defense so all he had to do was not screw it up like he did in the Super Bowl.

[BlackOp]

You know what people also do?

They fail to recognize that the Chiefs roster Reid inherited was hardly chopped liver, and it should come as no shock that a legitimate NFL coach was able to turn that squad in to winners, and would have done so regardless of WHO the ****ing QB was.
As has been said many times and is still the ONLY truth worth associating with Smith; he won't win the game for you, but he won't lose it for you either.

By that rationale...Foles should have stepped in and taken Smith's job last year. He knew the system..and since any QB in the NFL can win with Reid... what happened?

Doesn't make sense...how can Murray or Bray not unseat Smith. Bray has four years and an all world arm...and its just as simple as plug and play right?

You guys hate Smith because he inst Brady...I understand that. Many have distorted him into a caricature..as a terrible QB with no value to anyone.

[BlackOp]

Well true but Rex Grossman does have better post-season success than Alex Smith.

See the difference? & I'm not saying Rex Grossman is/was a solid starting quarterback but he had the defense so all he had to do was not screw it up like he did in the Super Bowl.

Grossman has never won more than 5 games in a season...except for the 13-3 fluke that was 2006.

[JakeF]

We need Smith to have a season like 2015 or better. I don't understand why some people want him to suck this year. Mahomes will take over eventually unless he completely stinks so Smith playing well does nothing but help us.

[Red Dawg]

We need Smith to have a season like 2015 or better. I don't understand why some people want him to suck this year. Mahomes will take over eventually unless he completely stinks so Smith playing well does nothing but help us.

Unless Smith is completely different the season will not go well. He played like ass last year. Maybe he was injured in the brain, could have been, but he was bad. The defense is the only reason we made the playoffs.

He must get back to form and play with the guts we had seen in the past because we play the rough teams this year.

[Rasputin]

Grossman has never won more than 5 games in a season...except for the 13-3 fluke that was 2006.

See if you're going give Alex Smith credit for what the defense has pulled together then you need give Grosmman same creds for that 13-3 season.


I'm giving it to the defense and special teams.

If defenses win championships then the quarterback lost the Super Bowl for Da Bears much like Alex Smith has lost those playoff games for the Chiefs.

[BlackOp]

Unless Smith is completely different the season will not go well. He played like ass last year. Maybe he was injured in the brain, could have been, but he was bad. The defense is the only reason we made the playoffs.

He must get back to form and play with the guts we had seen in the past because we play the rough teams this year.

That's not entirely true...his comeback against the Chargers was Nails. The biggest in franchise history...one of the better performances by a Chiefs QB in a long time. I do wish that THAT Smith showed up every week...KC would be a perennial SB team.

I didnt think KC was very good as a whole last year...bad run defense (injuries), Maclin was off in his own world, no Houston...run game declined. How they finished 12-4 was kind of a small miracle. What's even crazier..they were two late (terrible) red zone Smith INTs from 14-2.

[Rasputin]

That's not entirely true...his comeback against the Chargers was Nails. The biggest in franchise history...one of the better performances by a Chiefs QB in a long time. I do wish that THAT Smith showed up every week...KC would be a perennial SB team.

I didnt think KC was very good as a whole last year...bad run defense (injuries), Maclin was off in his own world, no Houston...run game declined. How they finished 12-4 was kind of a small miracle. What's even crazier..they were two late (terrible) red zone Smith INTs from 14-2.

That game against the Steelers in Prime Time was brutal.

[BlackOp]

See if you're going give Alex Smith credit for what the defense has pulled together then you need give Grosmman same creds for that 13-3 season.


I'm giving it to the defense and special teams.

If defenses win championships then the quarterback lost the Super Bowl for Da Bears much like Alex Smith has lost those playoff games for the Chiefs.

KC hasn't had the #3 defense in the NFL since Smith has been here....nor the #1 defense in the AFC. To put that fluke 2006 season in perspective only 2 teams in the entire NFC ranked in the top 12 in defense. Carolina was like #9. Bears had the best defense in the conference by a wide margin.

If that exact fluke scenario happened...Smith would likely be SB bound too. It's why Grossman tanked from there on out...NFC defenses were junk that year.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

By that rationale...Foles should have stepped in and taken Smith's job last year. He knew the system..and since any QB in the NFL can win with Reid... what happened?

Doesn't make sense...how can Murray or Bray not unseat Smith. Bray has four years and an all world arm...and its just as simple as plug and play right?

You guys hate Smith because he inst Brady...I understand that. Many have distorted him into a caricature..as a terrible QB with no value to anyone.

Smith has never been legitimately challenged during his entire tenure here. Do you think Reid was going to take an already fragile egg and smash it on the sidewalk?
Get real dude.
It took several seasons of the franchise honchos being absolutely, positively, 1000% certain that Smith was not championship material before they put on their big boy pants and did the unthinkable with Mahomes.
I never said Smith has no value. He's the perfect QB for a franchise that needs unexceptional stability and play at the position.
There are several struggling franchises that could use his help.

[Shields68]

Good post...Mahomes is very raw and Ried's offense is complex. They say it takes 3 years to fully grasp it.

I dont see Mahomes being ready by 2018...and I think Smith has a good year. He hasn't really had anyone behind him to potentially take his job. He now has pressure. He was the #1 ranked QB the year they drafted Kaepernick...until he got hurt.

The problem is that players learn faster by having reps. Think King did a piece on the fact that the collective bargaining really cut down on practice time, which has forced teams to cut back the number of reps the reserves take (since they will give the first team all of the reps necessary to prepare). Which is why the sit and learn as a QB is falling by the wayside and may not be as easy/successful as it was in the case Rogers/Farvre. So not sure 3 years of sitting is going to equate to the necessary time it takes to grasp the offense. If he is going to make this trade work he starts in 2018.

[BlackOp]

The problem is that players learn faster by having reps. Think King did a piece on the fact that the collective bargaining really cut down on practice time, which has forced teams to cut back the number of reps the reserves take (since they will give the first team all of the reps necessary to prepare). Which is why the sit and learn as a QB is falling by the wayside and may not be as easy/successful as it was in the case Rogers/Farvre.

Mahomes isn't exactly Luck...he's got a pretty large adjustment from a fundamental standpoint. That's not taking into account the phone-book and 15 word play calls Reid uses.

There is no real reason to rush him...a new rookie QB is exciting, a 7-9 record..not so much.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Mahomes isn't exactly Luck...he's got a pretty large adjustment from a fundamental standpoint. That's not taking into account the phone-book and 15 word play calls Reid uses.

There is no real reason to rush him...a new rookie QB is exciting, a 7-9 record..not so much.

Incorrect.

A 7-9 record is joyously exciting when watching the development of a potential franchise QB. Give me the good, bad, and ugly of Mahomes over another season of Smith's workman-like approach to the position, capped off with another playoff exit.

[Shields68]

Mahomes isn't exactly Luck...he's got a pretty large adjustment from a fundamental standpoint. That's not taking into account the phone-book and 15 word play calls Reid uses.

There is no real reason to rush him...a new rookie QB is exciting, a 7-9 record..not so much.

Not rushing him is giving him 2017 to learn behind Smith. Even that is going to slow his learning process. Think MMQB stat was since 2006 no QB drafted in the first 2 rounds has gone on to be the the franchise QB and sat his first year. Only 2 have sat out the first year and started over 48 games Henne and Kaepernick. It used to be rather common.

Agree on the 7-9 thing but the Mahomes pick/trade is for the future but to realize that future you may have to bite the bullet and get him the reps to see if he is going to be a franchise QB. Only way to truly learn is to get the reps.

[jd1020]

KC hasn't had the #3 defense in the NFL since Smith has been here....nor the #1 defense in the AFC.

The **** did you just say???

2013 - 5th: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG&tabSeq=2&season=2013&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&qualified=false

2014 - 2nd: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG&tabSeq=2&season=2014&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&qualified=false

2015 - 3rd: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG&tabSeq=2&season=2015&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&qualified=false

2016 - 7th: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG&tabSeq=2&season=2016&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&qualified=false

Alex Smith is a ****ing talent waster and it's embarrassing that fans of a team that has seen a revolving door of shit at the QB position is worried about moving on too early from one of the worst passing offenses in the game.

[BlackOp]

Incorrect.

A 7-9 record is joyously exciting when watching the development of a potential franchise QB. Give me the good, bad, and ugly of Mahomes over another season of Smith's workman-like approach to the position, capped off with another playoff exit.

Did you know Rodgers has only been to one Superbowl? Drew Brees ...one Superbowl? Phillip Rivers...zero Superbowls? That's 3 HOF QBs with only a pair of SB appearances between them.

Rodgers and Brees didnt have Manning, Brady and Roethlisberger in their division either...

You would think they would be champions every year with such great QBs...what gives?

Do you hold Kelce accountable for dropping a perfect pass against the Steelers?

[Eleazar]

There aren't any QBs available with Smith's resume.

He would be an awesome transition QB.

Like I said, It would actually be really smart for a team to draft a QB and trade for Smith to make sure you get him. The QB talent in this league is shit right now.

Teams will be hard after Smith if he hits the market, make no mistake.

The guy has won a lot of games..

I feel like I am listening to a used car salesman ;)

Mr. Browns, what do I have to do to put you into this Alex Smith today!?

[beach tribe]

I feel like I am listening to a used car salesman ;)

Mr. Browns, what do I have to do to put you into this Alex Smith today!?

ROFL

[Reerun_KC]

I can see a team trading a bag of dicks for Smith...

[cmdrzman]

Who the hell would give even a 6th for Smith? Dude sucks

[BlackOp]

Who the hell would give even a 6th for Smith? Dude sucks

Hmm... wonder what the market value is for Paxton Lynch right now? Osweiler? Horseface might be able to get a 4th/5th for him...you know after giving up a 1st & 3rd for him last year.

Smith is winning 11+ games a year...Lynch cant even beat out a 7th round back-up.

You have Tebow, Brock and Lynch as your hand picked QBs of the future...speaking of dudes that "suck".

[milkman]

Yeah..he is 11-5 and 12-4 over the past two years. Been hanging 30+ on your heralded defense for the last 3 match-ups.

You should know about back-up QBs though...it all that's on your roster.

Smith has value...the league doesn't share the same hate CP projects on him. There are HC/GMs on the bubble...that have no viable starting veteran QB. He hasn't been on a team that finished worse than 9-7 in 6 years. Sam Bradford's best season was 7-9...when he was a rookie. He has never had a single winning season and the Vikings gave up a 1st round pick for him.

People act like having the 4th best record in the NFL (since coming to the Chiefs) is something any QB could do. It's pretty warped...

So, if Alex Smith were the QB in Cleveland or Jacksonville fr the last 4 years, he'd still have the 4th best record, or at least a top 6 or 7, right?

The problem is that players learn faster by having reps. Think King did a piece on the fact that the collective bargaining really cut down on practice time, which has forced teams to cut back the number of reps the reserves take (since they will give the first team all of the reps necessary to prepare). Which is why the sit and learn as a QB is falling by the wayside and may not be as easy/successful as it was in the case Rogers/Farvre. So not sure 3 years of sitting is going to equate to the necessary time it takes to grasp the offense. If he is going to make this trade work he starts in 2018.

The piece is garbage.

The guys that sat the bench didn't have the talent, or the intangibles to succeed.

[Tombstone RJ]

Yeah..he is 11-5 and 12-4 over the past two years. Been hanging 30+ on your heralded defense for the last 3 match-ups.

You should know about back-up QBs though...it all that's on your roster.

Smith has value...the league doesn't share the same hate CP projects on him. There are HC/GMs on the bubble...that have no viable starting veteran QB. He hasn't been on a team that finished worse than 9-7 in 6 years. Sam Bradford's best season was 7-9...when he was a rookie. He has never had a single winning season and the Vikings gave up a 1st round pick for him.

People act like having the 4th best record in the NFL (since coming to the Chiefs) is something any QB could do. It's pretty warped...

lol, you moronic kc fans are so clueless. First, you claim that Smith is worth a second round pick and proclaim that many teams are desperate for him and he will immediately put them into contention. Then you say, "see, he's been getting our crappy team 13 wins, see!!"

Then why did Reid draft Mahomo?

Make up your mind little chiefy. Which is it? If Smith is a great QB who can elevate other teams to the promised land, why can't he do it with you great kc chef's team? Is it because your team just sucks and not even Smith can get them over the hump? Or is it because Smith sucks and is a journeyman QB at best who is just good enough to not suck?

You can't have it both ways, suckers... ROFL

[jjchieffan]

I personally think that Alex Smith would be tradeable. Who knows what compensation we could get for him? A second does seem high, but not out of the realm of possibilities. One argument that I have sen against it is his cap number for next year is about $20 million. That doesn't mean that the team trading for him is paying that. Remember when Peterson traded Green to Miami for a 5th? Green had a restructured deal already in place. Smith could do the same. Assuming that the team trading for him wants him to start for a couple of seasons or more, take that number down by turning most of it into a signing bonus. Give him a 4 year deal. $16 million signing bonus and $4 million for the first year. Now his cap number is a very palatable $8 million for that first year.
Secondly, despite what TombstonegivesBJ and the other Donk retards say, Smith has value to a lot of teams. Much like he had value to us when we traded for him. He will bring stability at the quarterback position to a team that sucks. He would be a great add for quarterback hungry teams like the Donks, Cleveland, Jets, 49ers, just to name a few. Teams see how quickly KC went from a 2-14 team to a perennial playoff team with Smith at the Helm. You're crazy if you think that teams with coaches/GM's on the hot seat wouldn't jump at the chance to have Smith.

[Tombstone RJ]

I personally think that Alex Smith would be tradeable. Who knows what compensation we could get for him? A second does seem high, but not out of the realm of possibilities. One argument that I have sen against it is his cap number for next year is about $20 million. That doesn't mean that the team trading for him is paying that. Remember when Peterson traded Green to Miami for a 5th? Green had a restructured deal already in place. Smith could do the same. Assuming that the team trading for him wants him to start for a couple of seasons or more, take that number down by turning most of it into a signing bonus. Give him a 4 year deal. $16 million signing bonus and $4 million for the first year. Now his cap number is a very palatable $8 million for that first year.

Secondly, despite what TombstonegivesBJ and the other Donk retards say, Smith has value to a lot of teams. Much like he had value to us when we traded for him. He will bring stability at the quarterback position to a team that sucks. He would be a great add for quarterback hungry teams like the Donks, Cleveland, Jets, 49ers, just to name a few. Teams see how quickly KC went from a 2-14 team to a perennial playoff team with Smith at the Helm. You're crazy if you think that teams with coaches/GM's on the hot seat wouldn't jump at the chance to have Smith.

Keep dreaming. You have already spelled out why no team will trade for Smith, the cap hit would be asinine. So kc will just have to cut him. Then, yah, I think some team will pick him up. But no team will trade for Smith. Smith is in the same situation as Kaepernick, Cutler, Romo, etc., in that he is old and/or every team on the NFL knows EXACTLY what he bring to the table, and it simply is not worth trading for. KC will cut him, a team will pick him up, kc will be clowned, again.

Why? because chiefs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Keep dreaming. You have already spelled out why no team will trade for Smith, the cap hit would be asinine. So kc will just have to cut him. Then, yah, I think some team will pick him up. But no team will trade for Smith. Smith is in the same situation as Kaepernick, Cutler, Romo, etc., in that he is old and/or every team on the NFL knows EXACTLY what he bring to the table, and it simply is not worth trading for. KC will cut him, a team will pick him up, kc will be clowned, again.

Why? because chiefs.

I believe you have plenty of your OWN woes to meditate upon, grasshopper.

[Tombstone RJ]

I believe you have plenty of your OWN woes to meditate upon, grasshopper.

The Broncos have plenty of young QB talent on their roster. Siemian might be the least talented of all the QBs and he's already better than Smith... just say'n...

[BossChief]

Sam Bradford went for a 1

I'm sure KC can get a 2 if Alex has a good year

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The Broncos have plenty of young QB talent on their roster. Siemian might be the least talented of all the QBs and he's already better than Smith... just say'n...

ROFL

Your QB's are pure dog shit. In fact, a day old dog turd in the park probably has more intelligence than all of your QB's combined.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

The Broncos have plenty of young QB talent on their roster. Siemian might be the least talented of all the QBs and he's already better than Smith... just say'n I'm a retarded dumbfuck...


Fixed

[Tombstone RJ]

Sam Bradford went for a 1

I'm sure KC can get a 2 if Alex has a good year

I'm sure you're wrong. The Vikings were desperate, the injury to Bridgewater was completely unexpected. The Vikings knew they had a good team and wanted to show the fans (as they were moving into a new stadium) that they wanted to win. Bridgewater may never fully recover from is knee injury, it was that bad. Bradford is probably a short term answer as the Vikes wait and see on Bridgewater. But, I'm betting the Vikes draft a QB in the next draft if Bridgewater doesn't get better. The next draft will be QB deep.

[Tombstone RJ]

ROFL

Your QB's are pure dog shit. In fact, a day old dog turd in the park probably has more intelligence than all of your QB's combined.

I guess we will see... I'm excited. Lynch, Kelly, and the best UDFA QB is Sloter all on the Broncos roster. It's gonna be funny when the Broncos end up winning another SB with one of these QBs and kc is going Blackledge with Patty Mahomo...

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Keep dreaming. You have already spelled out why no team will trade for Smith, the cap hit would be asinine. So kc will just have to cut him. Then, yah, I think some team will pick him up. But no team will trade for Smith. Smith is in the same situation as Kaepernick, Cutler, Romo, etc., in that he is old and/or every team on the NFL knows EXACTLY what he bring to the table, and it simply is not worth trading for. KC will cut him, a team will pick him up, kc will be clowned, again.

Why? because chiefs.

He could go to Jacksonville and immediately make them a 10-11 win team you clown

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I guess we will see... I'm excited. Lynch, Kelly, and the best UDFA QB is Sloter all on the Broncos roster. It's gonna be funny when the Broncos end up winning another SB with one of these QBs and kc is going Blackledge with Patty Mahomo...

Yeah, we'll see alright.

We'll be seeing your pathetic franchise in the rear view mirror for a LONG time to come, princess.

[Tombstone RJ]

Yeah, we'll see alright.

We'll be seeing your pathetic franchise in the rear view mirror for a LONG time to come, princess.

You and other kc fans have been saying this about the Broncos for 20 years...:rolleyes:

[Tombstone RJ]

He could go to Jacksonville and immediately make them a 10-11 win team you clown

ROFL but he can't win a playoff game with the super-duper loaded clown show in kc...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You and other kc fans have been saying this about the Broncos for 20 years...:rolleyes:

KC has proven weapons and ammo in all facets of its operation.

Denver is working with a fucking pop-gun and a ping-pong paddle.

Can't wait to sweep your candy-asses again.

[Tombstone RJ]

KC has proven weapons and ammo in all facets of its operation.

Denver is working with a ****ing pop-gun and a ping-pong paddle.

Can't wait to sweep your candy-asses again.

I can hardly wait for the regular season to start...

[RealSNR]

The Broncos have plenty of young QB talent on their roster. Siemian might be the least talented of all the QBs and he's already better than Smith... just say'n...


Thus, he beat Smith at least once this season, backed up by a superior defense and a better balance of receiving options.

Oh wait....

[RunKC]

I guess we will see... I'm excited. Lynch, Kelly, and the best UDFA QB is Sloter all on the Broncos roster. It's gonna be funny when the Broncos end up winning another SB with one of these QBs and kc is going Blackledge with Patty Mahomo...

1. Who the fuck is Sloter?
2. The Broncos have never drafted 1 franchise QB the same as the Chiefs.
3. An Alex Smith led Chiefs team has won 3 straight on your Donkeys, 2 of the 3 being blowouts.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Thus, he beat Smith at least once this season, backed up by a superior defense and a better balance of receiving options.

Oh wait....

:LOL:

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

ROFL but he can't win a playoff game with the super-duper loaded clown show in kc...

I guess a 30-0 win doesn't count ?


Dumbass !

[Tombstone RJ]

1. Who the **** is Sloter?
2. The Broncos have never drafted 1 franchise QB the same as the Chiefs.
3. An Alex Smith led Chiefs team has won 3 straight on your Donkeys, 2 of the 3 being blowouts.

The Broncos may not have technically drafted Elway but Elway was a Broncos from start to finish. You're focused on a technicality to strengthen your already weak argument. Some QBs drafted by the Broncos, all better than anything drafted by kc: Maddox, Cutler, Griese, Tebow (one playoff win), Siemian, Osweiler... it's certainly a better record than any QB kc has drafted. I know your SB is beating the Broncos but really, you should understand that winning in the post season is the goal.

[Tombstone RJ]

I guess a 30-0 win doesn't count ?


Dumbass !

So, one playoff win, same as Tebow...

[RunKC]

The Broncos may not have technically drafted Elway but Elway was a Broncos from start to finish. You're focused on a technicality to strengthen your already weak argument. Some QBs drafted by the Broncos, all better than anything drafted by kc: Maddox, Cutler, Griese, Tebow (one playoff win), Siemian, Osweiler... it's certainly a better record than any QB kc has drafted. I know your SB is beating the Broncos but really, you should understand that winning in the post season is the goal.

So counting Elway the Donkey's haven't drafted a franchise QB in over 30 years and have failed in drafting a QB over 4 times since Elway retired.

The people running the Chiefs drafted McNabb and Rodgers and the 2 people who worked with our GM in GB running the same Ron Wolf philosophy drafted Carr and Wilson. I think they know what they're doing...

But like you said, we'll see

[vailpass]

So counting Elway the Donkey's haven't drafted a franchise QB in over 30 years.

The people running the Chiefs drafted McNabb and Rodgers and the 2 people who worked with or GM in GB drafted Carr and Wilson. I think they know what they're doing...

But like you said, we'll see

A Chiefs fan running qb smack. At Denver. Cute.

[RunKC]

A Chiefs fan running qb smack. At Denver. Cute.

You traded for a HOF QB and then signed one of the greatest to ever play in FA. The Chiefs have done the same.

Your smack makes no sense.

[MMXcalibur]

http://www.thedrawplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/2017-05-27-MrSmithGoesToMars.png

[Tombstone RJ]

So counting Elway the Donkey's haven't drafted a franchise QB in over 30 years and have failed in drafting a QB over 4 times since Elway retired.

The people running the Chiefs drafted McNabb and Rodgers and the 2 people who worked with our GM in GB running the same Ron Wolf philosophy drafted Carr and Wilson. I think they know what they're doing...

But like you said, we'll see

Yes, yes we will...

[Tombstone RJ]

You traded for a HOF QB and then signed one of the greatest to ever play in FA. The Chiefs have done the same.

Your smack makes no sense.

Elway technicality is technical. And, kc had a chance for Manning. Manning wouldn't even consider considering kc.

[RunKC]

Elway technicality is technical. And, kc had a chance for Manning. Manning wouldn't even consider considering kc.

Who cares? Pioli was a huge problem and now he's gone.

You troll the past way too often considering we've beaten you 3 straight

[vailpass]

Who cares? Pioli was a huge problem and now he's gone.

You troll the past way too often considering we've beaten you 3 straight

I'm excited for the chiefs fans here that you got a qb that might be a franchise player. I hope he kicks ass for you guys except for twice a season. But keep that regular season smack in perspective.

[RealSNR]

http://www.thedrawplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/2017-05-27-MrSmithGoesToMars.png

I always get a kick out of those Andy Reid/walrus drawings whenever they make Chiefs cartoons

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

The **** did you just say???


You're uneducated. Fact. Not fiction.

[cmdrzman]

There needs to be a 2001 Bucs type team out there that will give up at best a 3rd.. I don't see a team like them when they went after Brad Johnson currently-

Most of the playoff teams have their QB in place

He's too old and a 6-8 win type team aint gonna give up a 2nd or 3rd for a QB that wont get them over the hump-

Chiefs will be lucky to get a 6th at best- Akex career is basically over- he'll hang arounf for a few more years as a backup- but he's done

[jjchieffan]

Keep dreaming. You have already spelled out why no team will trade for Smith, the cap hit would be asinine. So kc will just have to cut him. Then, yah, I think some team will pick him up. But no team will trade for Smith. Smith is in the same situation as Kaepernick, Cutler, Romo, etc., in that he is old and/or every team on the NFL knows EXACTLY what he bring to the table, and it simply is not worth trading for. KC will cut him, a team will pick him up, kc will be clowned, again.

Why? because chiefs.

Your reading comprehension sucks, moron. I clearly explained how that salary would not be an issue. One year remaining is very easy to restructure. I see you're still throwing the term clown around. How is your life in the circus? Has anyone taught you any new words lately? I've got one for you. Cheaters. Look it up, you'll see the Denver Broncos logo in the description.

[cmdrzman]

Chiefs better hope Mahommes is the answer- Cause there's a lot riding on it..

The Chiefs 2017 is over.... Lets just be honest- Alex Smith will throw a couple ass throws and the crowds gonna be screaming for Mahomes by week 3, there's gonna be locker room issues,,, and Reid is simply not gonna do it... The 2017 Chiefs season is pretty much over before it even started.... Then, Mahomes if he pans out is gonna take 2-3 years to develop.... Anyone got like 3 years to spare?

Because... ya gonna need it

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Chiefs better hope Mahommes is the answer- Cause there's a lot riding on it..

The Chiefs 2017 is over.... Lets just be honest- Alex Smith will throw a couple ass throws and the crowds gonna be screaming for Mahomes by week 3, there's gonna be locker room issues,,, and Reid is simply not gonna do it... The 2017 Chiefs season is pretty much over before it even started.... Then, Mahomes if he pans out is gonna take 2-3 years to develop.... Anyone got like 3 years to spare?

Because... ya gonna need it

Smith is 40-21 in 4 years and you suck Donkey cocks.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Chiefs better hope Mahommes is the answer- Cause there's a lot riding on it..

The Chiefs 2017 is over.... Lets just be honest- Alex Smith will throw a couple ass throws and the crowds gonna be screaming for Mahomes by week 3, there's gonna be locker room issues,,, and Reid is simply not gonna do it... The 2017 Chiefs season is pretty much over before it even started.... Then, Mahomes if he pans out is gonna take 2-3 years to develop.... Anyone got like 3 years to spare?

Because... ya gonna need it

Mahomes will develop faster than Carr and Denver has nothing but complete trash at QB.
No one here with an eye to the future gives two shits about what Alex Smith may or may not do.
If he performs well, he increases his value on the market.
If he sucks, it makes cutting the cord that much easier and faster.

And what's this "we better hope"-bullshit, anyway?

We better hope that you don't come marching in to Arrowhead with your three shitbag QB's, and lay 10 points on us?

Get the fuck outta' here with that shit.

[RealSNR]

Chiefs better hope Mahommes is the answer- Cause there's a lot riding on it..

The Chiefs 2017 is over.... Lets just be honest- Alex Smith will throw a couple ass throws and the crowds gonna be screaming for Mahomes by week 3, there's gonna be locker room issues,,, and Reid is simply not gonna do it... The 2017 Chiefs season is pretty much over before it even started.... Then, Mahomes if he pans out is gonna take 2-3 years to develop.... Anyone got like 3 years to spare?

Because... ya gonna need it

And the Donk fans possessed the patience of the gods when Trevor Jizz looked like ass last year, right?

[TimeForWasp]

I think Reid and Dorsey have too much respect for Smith to just look for a trade and dump him on a shitty , needy team.
I wouldn't doubt if they restructure his contract so as to have the choice to trade to a team that Smith agrees with, or keep him as a backup, or cut him and take the comp pick.

[ChiefGator]

or cut him and take the comp pick.

We don't get a comp pick for terminating a contract, unless the contract was written with a void clause in it and the player exercises it.

[notorious]

LMAO at you guys getting trolled by RJ and that other kid.

[Messier]

I love how scared Broncos fans are of Mahomes.

[notorious]

I love how scared Broncos fans are of Mahomes.

I am good friends with several Bronco fans, and we are pretty frank when talking about our teams.

The common theme was always the Chiefs QB. My friends aren't sold on Mahomes because we truly don't know what he is going to do yet, but most of them have told me that the Chiefs are finally doing the right thing.

Before, the Chiefs were always a wannabe in their eyes, but never a legit threat because of their approach to QB. That opinion has changed.

Up in Denver in the echo-chamber of fans they are exactly like Chiefs fans with their blind optimism, and hear very little opposing viewpoints. Out here in the great divide we get to hear about both sides of each team, the good and bad. Beuhler will disagree with me, but my Bronco fans are pretty respectful. I think he is surrounded by the asshole variety up north. LMAO

[Rausch]

Chiefs better hope Mahommes is the answer- Cause there's a lot riding on it..


Not really.

Had we not traded a 1st and 3rd for 2PM we'd have just traded two 2nd round picks for someone else's back up QB.

Like we've done for the last fucking 20 years...

[Rausch]

I love how scared Broncos fans are of Mahomes.

They don't need to be.

The odds that we'd both A)Draft a stud prospect with our first 1st round QB in 35 years AND B) handle his development properly is highly unlikely.

[RealSNR]

They don't need to be.

The odds that we'd both A)Draft a stud prospect with our first 1st round QB in 35 years AND B) handle his development properly is highly unlikely.

Andy Reid gets the most out of ANY QB.

Yeah, he developed McNabb, but consider all those backups he won plenty of games with. Hell, he made Jeff Garcia look like a goddamn STUD.

Short of Mahomes completely IGNORING his coaching like Tebow did, he's going to be fine. He might not reach the ridiculously high ceiling that is possible for him, but I have no doubt he can play mid-tier starter quality football at the very least.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sam Bradford went for a 1

I'm sure KC can get a 2 if Alex has a good year

Sam Bradford also...

Threw for more yards than Alex last year
Had a better completion rate
Threw more TD's
Threw fewer INT's
Threw for more yards per game
Had a higher QB rating
Was surrounded by inferior players
Joined the team the week the season started
Is 4 years younger

[jjchieffan]

ROFL There is going to be a LOT of crow being served in this thread next off-season. I don't know who will be serving and who will be getting served, but I'll have my popcorn ready. It's going to be funny to see either way.

[Tombstone RJ]

Your reading comprehension sucks, moron. I clearly explained how that salary would not be an issue. One year remaining is very easy to restructure. I see you're still throwing the term clown around. How is your life in the circus? Has anyone taught you any new words lately? I've got one for you. Cheaters. Look it up, you'll see the Denver Broncos logo in the description.

No team is going to "restructure" a $20m dollar contract for a back up QB. Especially one that will be a FA after he gets cut from loserville.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I'm the biggest queer on the internet , I love taking it in the ass and sucking cocks all day long. My dad taught me how to do these things. I miss Peyton 0.00 Manning.

Fixed

[BlackOp]

No team is going to "restructure" a $20m dollar contract for a back up QB. Especially one that will be a FA after he gets cut from loserville.

It must suck to root for a team that has lost 3 straight times to a back-up QB from loserville...especially when those losers score over 30 points a game against you in your stadium.

What does it feel like...when a back-up QB embarrasses your team on a national broadcast on Christmas?

I'm sure its lost on you that by insulting the Chiefs, you're actually insulting your own team worse...since they cant beat them.

[BigCatDaddy]

Sam Bradford also...

Threw for more yards than Alex last year
Had a better completion rate
Threw more TD's
Threw fewer INT's
Threw for more yards per game
Had a higher QB rating
Was surrounded by inferior players
Joined the team the week the season started
Is 4 years younger

Well yeah... but besides all that

[vailpass]

Fixed

LMAO It's good to see the rivalry rekindled.

[jjchieffan]

No team is going to "restructure" a $20m dollar contract for a back up QB. Especially one that will be a FA after he gets cut from loserville.

Are you really that dumb? If someone trades for Smith it will likely be for a stop gap starter to build a winning culture while they look for their qbotf. And for that, they certainly can and would restructure his contract. It just takes one quarterback hungry team to make that trade and there are several out there. Now, I'm not saying that it's a slam dunk that he gets traded and for a high pick. But to act like it's completely out of the realm of possibilities is ridiculous. But, then again, you are a Donk fan, so your perception of the NFL is already skewed by trying to rationalize all of the cheating that your team does, so I wouldn't expect you to look at anything rationally.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Hard to converse with a cheatin' donk.

[Messier]

They don't need to be.

The odds that we'd both A)Draft a stud prospect with our first 1st round QB in 35 years AND B) handle his development properly is highly unlikely.

I was surprised at the faith Reid and Dorsey showed in Mahomes, but the fact they have makes me more confident in probability that he works out.

QB development is tricky but I'm willing to say there isn't another staff I'd rather have for him to learn under.

[cmdrzman]

Smith is 40-21 in 4 years and you suck Donkey cocks.

Did your parents have any children that lived?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Did your parents have any children that lived?

No , why ?

[jjchieffan]

Did your parents have any children that lived?

I think that they had a downs syndrome kid. They say he grew up to be a Donks fan that goes by cmdrzman. But they all still love him. They know that if he wasn't mentally challenged that he wouldn't follow such a pathetic bunch of cheaters.

[cmdrzman]

I think that they had a downs syndrome kid. They say he grew up to be a Donks fan that goes by cmdrzman. But they all still love him. They know that if he wasn't mentally challenged that he wouldn't follow such a pathetic bunch of cheaters.

That's simply not funny-

I think you been cheated-

[chefs fan in omaha]

alex will be starting for the chiefs in 18. cry now bitch.

Yep, I agree

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yep, I agree

The Chiefs brass have made it very clear that they intend to reduce the number of useless and wasted Smith seasons to one more in 2017.
Mahomes is an elite, 1st round QB prospect, not some 5th round Dollar Tree/UDFA garbage pile.
Nothing short of a Lamar Hunt trophy will keep Smith on this roster for 2018.

[jallmon]

Hmm... wonder what the market value is for Paxton Lynch right now? Osweiler? Horseface might be able to get a 4th/5th for him...you know after giving up a 1st & 3rd for him last year.

Smith is winning 11+ games a year...Lynch cant even beat out a 7th round back-up.

You have Tebow, Brock and Lynch as your hand picked QBs of the future...speaking of dudes that "suck".

That crowd does make Alex Smith look downright competent, doesn't it? :D

[BigCatDaddy]

Hmm... wonder what the market value is for Paxton Lynch right now? Osweiler? Horseface might be able to get a 4th/5th for him...you know after giving up a 1st & 3rd for him last year.

Smith is winning 11+ games a year...Lynch cant even beat out a 7th round back-up.

You have Tebow, Brock and Lynch as your hand picked QBs of the future...speaking of dudes that "suck".

Have you seen the list of guys that have beaten out ASS11?

[vailpass]

That crowd does make Alex Smith look downright competent, doesn't it? :D

Number of playoff wins?

[Tombstone RJ]

Number of playoff wins?

Crickets, be all like chirping, and shit...

[Rasputin]

Number of playoff wins?

1-3

[ct]

ROFL There is going to be a LOT of crow being served in this thread next off-season. I don't know who will be serving and who will be getting served, but I'll have my popcorn ready. It's going to be funny to see either way.

really the only verified true factual statement i've read in the whole thread.

[King_Chief_Fan]

No team is going to "restructure" a $20m dollar contract for a back up QB. Especially one that will be a FA after he gets cut from loserville.
Smith will be a better option for the donks than what they have now

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Smith will be a better option for the donks than what they have now

I really like the idea of KC sending its used-up garbage to Elway on a regular basis.
Idiot donkeys snicker and laugh, but I can assure you that Elway would take Smith's services without batting an eye, especially after this upcoming season.

[BossChief]

You guys are crazy. I know Smith isn't a great player, but the last thing I want is a guy with full knowledge of the offense and a winning style of play to go to a division rival.

I'd be very concerned if Alex went to Denver.

[Rasputin]

You guys are crazy. I know Smith isn't a great player, but the last thing I want is a guy with full knowledge of the offense and a winning style of play to go to a division rival.

I'd be very concerned if Alex went to Denver.

It really wouldn't hurt my feelings if he went to Denver our defense knows all of Alex Smith tendencies.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It really wouldn't hurt my feelings if he went to Denver our defense knows all of Alex Smith tendencies.

No shit. Leopard ain't changing his spots. And, changing things around a bit in the offense( hand signals, calls etc. )is not a difficult mountain to climb and should be more than sufficient to keep Smith's "working knowledge" of KC's offense in the dark and at bay.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You guys are crazy. I know Smith isn't a great player, but the last thing I want is a guy with full knowledge of the offense and a winning style of play to go to a division rival.

I'd be very concerned if Alex went to Denver.

This just happened. How threatened do you feel?

I'm guessing not very.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And, let's not forget that Mahomes skill set and MUCH higher level of talent allows Reid to open up and/or create new plays that Smith has probably never been asked to execute much less study.

[Tombstone RJ]

Smith will be a better option for the donks than what they have now

Siemian is already better than Smith.

[RunKC]

Smith will be a better option for the donks than what they have now

Pretty much. Semen is Alex without the running ability.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Pretty much. Semen is Alex without the running ability.

Just because he doesn't use his running ability as a crutch doesn't mean he can't do it.

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[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

You guys are crazy. I know Smith isn't a great player, but the last thing I want is a guy with full knowledge of the offense and a winning style of play to go to a division rival.

I'd be very concerned if Alex went to Denver.

Exactly. His ability to protect the ball and play with a stellar defense would be dangerous. Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders would be the best WR duo he's played with in his career.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

“He’s a great guy—love Alex, man,” Robinson said. “He’s a great dude. He’s smart, so I just learned a lot from him over the offseason. [That work] was a tremendous part of me being able to do what I was able to do today.”


--> And CP deplorables are talking a trade??? ROFL

[RealSNR]

Exactly. His ability to protect the ball and play with a stellar defense would be dangerous. Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders would be the best WR duo he's played with in his career.

Hope they'd both be prepared to see their season receiving yards dip below 1000 and their TD totals get cut by at least half.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Hope they'd both be prepared to see their season receiving yards dip below 1000 and their TD totals get cut by at least half.

Except Tyreek Hill just had an awesome TD rate despite just playing a season of 1st team reps as a rookie. Or Maclin having an exceptionally efficient 2015 season.

So there's that. And then there's ignorant t**ts like you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Hope they'd both be prepared to see their season receiving yards dip below 1000 and their TD totals get cut by at least half.

When receivers of the NFL think about which QB's they would like to play with, I'm sure Smith ranks right there at the top.
LMAO


You know, because he's "dangerous"! ROFL:rolleyes:ROFL

[BigCatDaddy]

Except Tyreek Hill just had an awesome TD rate despite just playing a season of 1st team reps as a rookie. Or Maclin having an exceptionally efficient 2015 season.

So there's that. And then there's ignorant t**ts like you.

I remember when Bowe lead the NFL in TDs.. Thank you Matt Cassel

[RealSNR]

Except Tyreek Hill just had an awesome TD rate despite just playing a season of 1st team reps as a rookie. Or Maclin having an exceptionally efficient 2015 season.

So there's that. And then there's ignorant t**ts like you.
The same QB who didn't throw a TD to a WR for an entire season in the modern NFL is going to satisfy and make good use of a top 5 1-2 WR combo in the league?

Mmmhmmmmmm

[RunKC]

Except Tyreek Hill just had an awesome TD rate despite just playing a season of 1st team reps as a rookie. Or Maclin having an exceptionally efficient 2015 season.

So there's that. And then there's ignorant t**ts like you.

Only half(6) of Hill's TD's were receiving TD's.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Stupid Tigger is stupid.

Why do you insist on wearing these Smith covered blinders at all times? Why do you refuse to see his limitations?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Stupid Tigger is stupid.

Why do you insist on wearing these Smith covered blinders at all times? Why do you refuse to see his limitations?

No point in trying to convince Smith's ball gargler anything different. He came in to this world with that dick in his mouth, and he'll leave the same way.

[keg in kc]

Trade value. Hah.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Of Wide Receivers who caught at least 50 passes last season, Tyreek was in the top 10 in receiving touchdown rate. In company with the likes of Jordy, Dez Bryant, Rishard Matthews. Essentially, he was ODB level good at ~10%. That's as a ROOKIE.


Your ignorance can leave now.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Hope they'd both be prepared to see their season receiving yards dip below 1000 and their TD totals get cut by at least half.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9R7m2VYAAId3d.jpg

[Tombstone RJ]

Tyreek Hill be treating the NFL like his girlfriend...

[BigCatDaddy]

Just imagine what Hill will do with PM2 :eek:

[Kaepernick]

Just imagine what Hill will do with PM2 :eek:

You don't have to imagine. Just wait a year, then you will see it.

[RealSNR]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9R7m2VYAAId3d.jpg

Hey that's fucking great. Alex threw 3 TDs to a guy with 4.2 speed.

How about never getting a WR past double digit TDs in a season? How about not having a WR crack 1000 yards until 2015?

Alex's entire career is one big "Fuck you" to the WR position. How anybody could argue otherwise is beyond me.

[RunKC]

Alex threw only 15 TD's with 2 all pro receivers and a top 100 receiver voted by the players in 2015.

That might be worse than the no WR TD's year

[BigBeauford]

I wonder if at some point, a team in contention who loses their qb to injury, might call the Chiefs, and inquire about Alex.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

*Slow clap*

[Rasputin]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

1-3 playoffs

Why do Chiefs fans enjoy mediocrity? We can do so much better but thankfully we have a quarterback we drafted that will bring us exciting football and will put the team on his shoulders to will us through the playoffs. Maybe it will take some time maybe it will be quicker than most think but the good news is we drafted our future and our future is bright.

[Bugeater]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?:facepalm:

[BlackOp]

thankfully we have a quarterback we drafted that will bring us exciting football and will put the team on his shoulders to will us through the playoffs. Maybe it will take some time maybe it will be quicker than most think but the good news is we drafted our future and our future is bright.

That's pretty lofty expectations for a QB that cant run an NFL huddle yet...."putting the team on his shoulders and willing them through the playoffs?"

I want Mahomes to succeed too...but I think people need to be realistic. In the best case scenario...willing his team through the playoffs is 4 years away. Carr hasnt done it and neither has Luck. That dude is green...

I imagine the 49ers board was pretty excited about Kaepernick at one time too...now they wish Smith had stayed.

Enjoy Smith while 2PM develops...there is a chance KC fans will miss being 12-4 and "boring". The Cassel years made me appreciate Smith for what he is... and witnessing what happens to a franchise without a competent starting QB. It falls apart...

[Rasputin]

That's pretty lofty expectations for a QB that cant run an NFL huddle yet...."putting the team on his shoulders and willing them through the playoffs?"

I want Mahomes to succeed too...but I think people need to be realistic. In the best case scenario...willing his team through the playoffs is 4 years away. Carr hasnt done it and neither has Luck. That dude is green...

I imagine the 49ers board was pretty excited about Kaepernick at one time too...now they wish Smith had stayed.

Enjoy Smith while 2PM develops...there is a chance KC fans will miss being 12-4 and "boring". The Cassel years made me appreciate Smith for what he is... and witnessing what happens to a franchise without a competent starting QB. It falls apart...

Dorsey seemed God dammed excited himself when he pulled the trigger/trade of the century for the Chiefs Franchise Quarterback.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

Only an idiot would draft Smith for fantasy football and if you did, you should probably not play fantasy football.

[Rasputin]

Hey that's fucking great. Alex threw 3 TDs to a guy with 4.2 speed.

How about never getting a WR past double digit TDs in a season? How about not having a WR crack 1000 yards until 2015?

Alex's entire career is one big "Fuck you" to the WR position. How anybody could argue otherwise is beyond me.

I bet Mahomes II first full season 2018 he hits Tyreek Hill for double digit touchdowns.

[Buckweath]

Alex threw only 15 TD's with 2 all pro receivers and a top 100 receiver voted by the players in 2015.

That might be worse than the no WR TD's year
Hill was named All-pro mostly for his special teams feats and less so for his receiving contribution even though it sure helped so your claim is a bit misleading.

This being said, at this point I think everyone realizes that even if he was throwing to Julio Jones and Antonio Brown, Smith wouldn't put up huge numbers because he is very conservative and somewhat limited.

[Mile High Mania]

Only an idiot would draft Smith for fantasy football and if you did, you should probably not play fantasy football.

The only times I recall Alex being on fantasy rosters is late in the season when QB depth is key for a playoff push. I think I picked him up once, purely a defensive move as I believe he had a couple of easy matchups and a few QB poor teams in the playoff race could have used him.

[ChiefGator]

The only times I recall Alex being on fantasy rosters is late in the season when QB depth is key for a playoff push. I think I picked him up once, purely a defensive move as I believe he had a couple of easy matchups and a few QB poor teams in the playoff race could have used him.

He is a good steady QB for #2 QB for those of us that play in a 2-QB league and wait on the second QB too. Especially ones that have a large negative on interceptions.

[The Franchise]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

How many Superbowls did we win with him?

[Fish]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

Wins and losses are team stats. Not individual stats. Which is exactly why nobody had Smith on their fantasy team.

[Mile High Mania]

Wins and losses are team stats. Not individual stats. Which is exactly why nobody had Smith on their fantasy team.

This is the most that a fantasy football discussion has talked about Alex Smith.

[BigCatDaddy]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

Did you happen to see who the last 8 QB's left in the playoffs last year were and what type of stats they typically put up? Fuck those guys and their production!

[duncan_idaho]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?



I don't give a fuck about Alex Smith's fantasy stats.

What I give a fuck about is his proven inconsistency and inadequacy in the passing game, which handcuffs his offense against true playoff contenders.

His chickenshit ball protection style allows his team to pile up regular season wins - as long as his defense and running game and special teams are good - but it falls flat in the playoffs.

If you're a big fan of talking about how the Chiefs had the second-most wins of any franchise in the 90s, and proudly rock your AFC West Champs, 97 shirt, Alex Smith is just fine.

If you want the Chiefs to actually win a Super Bowl, he isn't. (And that has been blatantly obvious from Day 1)


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[dls6501]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team.

You have it wrong here. The only person who is an idiot in your example, is the moron who has Alex Smith as their fantasy quarterback.

That is why your take is idiotic. People arent upset that Alex is hurting fantasy teams. ALEX ISNT ON FANTASY TEAMS. Because fantasy is based on individual production.

[Bowser]

I don't give a fuck about Alex Smith's fantasy stats.

What I give a fuck about is his proven inconsistency and inadequacy in the passing game, which handcuffs his offense against true playoff contenders.

His chickenshit ball protection style allows his team to pile up regular season wins - as long as his defense and running game and special teams are good - but it falls flat in the playoffs.

If you're a big fan of talking about how the Chiefs had the second-most wins of any franchise in the 90s, and proudly rock your AFC West Champs, 97 shirt, Alex Smith is just fine.

If you want the Chiefs to actually win a Super Bowl, he isn't. (And that has been blatantly obvious from Day 1)


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[Kman34]

Kansas City Chiefs: Way too early for Alex Smith trade talk - FanSided
https://apple.news/AIcpsqXWyOKWvfXcTJDGIig

[Rasputin]

Kansas City Chiefs: Way too early for Alex Smith trade talk - FanSided
https://apple.news/AIcpsqXWyOKWvfXcTJDGIig

The fans don't want him here he should want to be traded off season or even by the deadline. All he is good for is to buy time for Patrick Mahomes II get settled in on the offensive play calling and comfortable running the show.

[Rain Man]

All the pressure is off of Alex. He's going to go out there and hang up 50 points per game and win the Super Bowl this year. Just watch.

[dls6501]

All the pressure is off of Alex. He's going to go out there and hang up 50 points per game and win the Super Bowl this year. Just watch.

I wont hold my breath.

[Rain Man]

I wont hold my breath.

You're right. There'll be no suspense this year. He'll pummel every opponent mercilessly from the opening bell.

[dls6501]

You're right. There'll be no suspense this year. He'll pummel every opponent mercilessly from the opening bell.

Like I said, I wont hold my breath.

[RunKC]

Alex had the 5th lowest pressure % last season.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF/status/869331530111496192

No more blaming the OL

[jjchieffan]

You have it wrong here. The only person who is an idiot in your example, is the moron who has Alex Smith as their fantasy quarterback.

That is why your take is idiotic. People arent upset that Alex is hurting fantasy teams. ALEX ISNT ON FANTASY TEAMS. Because fantasy is based on individual production.

I am not defending him, but I think that he was referring to Chiefs receivers and tight ends not getting big fantasy numbers thanks to Smith. And Kelce, Hill, and Maclin are legit picks on fantasy teams.

[Red Dawg]

Alex had the 5th lowest pressure % last season.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF/status/869331530111496192

No more blaming the OL

I can blame them for run blocking. They stunk at it.

[The Franchise]

Wins and losses are team stats. Not individual stats. Which is exactly why nobody had Smith on their fantasy team.

We had a guy in our league draft Smith......in the 3rd fucking round.

[Bowser]

We had a guy in our league draft Smith......in the 3rd fucking round.

Did he win the league?

[RealSNR]

Lol at all you idiots who are upset that Alex didn't help your fantasy football team. I got news for you, Alex doesn't care about stats. He cares about winning and he has done a good job of that since coming here all things considered.

What was Alex's W-L record since he came to the Chiefs? Can anyone tell me what the Chiefs W-L record was the prior 5-years before Alex got here? before Alex got here, when was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff gm?

The topic at hand is would Alex Smith neuter a dynamic WR duo like Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. Tigger said Smith wouldn't tank those WR stats if he were on the team. He's obviously wrong.

It has nothing to do with fantasy football or being mad about it. And like everybody else has said.... WHO THE FUCK is dumb enough to put Alex on their fantasy team?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Alex had the 5th lowest pressure % last season.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF/status/869331530111496192

No more blaming the OL

That's because skittle britches got rid of the ball quicker than anyone in the league.

[dls6501]

We had a guy in our league draft Smith......in the 3rd ****ing round.

Damn. Wish I had people like that in my league.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You know what I know about fantasy football?
Jack and dick.
And that said, EVEN I KNOW you wouldn't draft a flub like Smith to lead your roster.
LMAO

[dls6501]

You know what I know about fantasy football?
Jack and dick.
And that said, EVEN I KNOW you wouldn't draft a flub like Smith to lead your roster.
LMAO

You know that fantasy football is based on individual player production, not team record.

That is all you need to know when talking about drafting Alex Smith.

[Sandy Vagina]

"individual player production" for a team sport... hmmm... interesting. It's not like a QB needs a player to actually catch the ball, or an OL and scheme to make such things possible.

A RB has great "individual player production" with his 13 TDs and 1700 rushing yards!

Nevermind that he relied on his team blocking or RZ carries or anything. Nope... it's all individual player production.

https://media.tenor.co/images/6566e6ba136bb02680daef0c44c3888c/raw

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You know that fantasy football is based on individual player production, not team record.

That is all you need to know when talking about drafting Alex Smith.

I have no problem with the concept of winning as a team. I DO however have a problem with people who defend the weakest links of said team and refuse to recognize that the more talented players on said team are dragging the weaklings along for the ride.

Continually.

Habitually.

Every.

Fucking.

Season.

[Nickhead]

is their no I in Ch efs?

[Rasputin]

is their no I in Ch efs?

U. Ch U efs

[Rasputin]

U. Ch U efs

^ Filter evasion apparently.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

^ Filter evasion apparently.

I'll never understand why certain people got so bent out of shape over that version of "Chiefs".

Seems somewhat trivial IMO.

[Rasputin]

I'll never understand why certain people got so bent out of shape over that version of "Chiefs".

Seems somewhat trivial IMO.

I know what you mean..

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[RealSNR]

chuefs

[RealSNR]

Oh that is lame. Really freakin lame.

That's my first legitimate gripe about the new mods. Spelling Chiefs with a "u" is right up there with "your and idiot" and "genious". Why would you censor that? It's tradition at this point. It makes zero sense to do that.

[SAUTO]

Oh that is lame. Really freakin lame.

That's my first legitimate gripe about the new mods. Spelling Chiefs with a "u" is right up there with "your and idiot" and "genious". Why would you censor that? It's tradition at this point. It makes zero sense to do that.

Trust me, we didn't do anything to change that.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

The topic at hand is would Alex Smith neuter a dynamic WR duo like Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. Tigger said Smith wouldn't tank those WR stats if he were on the team. He's obviously wrong.

It has nothing to do with fantasy football or being mad about it. And like everybody else has said.... WHO THE **** is dumb enough to put Alex on their fantasy team?

Reid has coached for 17 seasons and has only had five, 1000 yard receivers as a head coach. Terrell owens did it once. Kevin Curtis once. Desean Jackson twice. Maclin and Kelce accomplished it once, and that was WITH Alex Smith.

Reid opts to spread the ball, rather than passing it to the same two guys over and over

If you haven't figured this out, there is no hope for you. Quit being ignorant.

[dls6501]

"individual player production" for a team sport... hmmm... interesting. It's not like a QB needs a player to actually catch the ball, or an OL and scheme to make such things possible.

A RB has great "individual player production" with his 13 TDs and 1700 rushing yards!

Nevermind that he relied on his team blocking or RZ carries or anything. Nope... it's all individual player production.

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With this attitude, you must wonder why individual statistics are kept at all right?

[Sandy Vagina]

With this attitude, you must wonder why individual statistics are kept at all right?

I don't wonder at all.. I know. They're kept for silly little FF-minded douche-nozzles like yourself. All the little awards and player rankings are for the kiddies to drool over and jerk to.

All that matters to me is whether the team wins or loses... and I don't need team stats to tell me why it happens or doesn't.

There are some interesting discussions over what some stats suggest. Everything has its place. It's far more about one's perspective of their place.

Whether the RB, TE, or particular WR has a double digit TD number or 1k yards at the end of the year? G the **** outta here. Don't care.

[O.city]

It's not like more yards and tds would potentially lead to more wins. Weird.

[BigCatDaddy]

It's not like more yards and tds would potentially lead to more wins. Weird.

Points?? Points??? You wanna talk about points??????

[Discuss Thrower]

Facts, not fiction:

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[RunKC]

In 2016, Alex was the 2nd worst QB Andy had in TD % for passing TD's only being better than Nick Foles rookie year with a bad team.