See how Alex Smith performs in the red zone compared to rest of AFC West

[beach tribe]

It was a breezy, borderline chilly, Sunday afternoon in mid-November last season. The 7-2 Kansas City Chiefs were at home against the five-loss Tampa Bay Buccaneers, rolling with a five-game winning streak that included victories over the New Orleans Saints at home and the Oakland Raiders and Carolina Panthers on the road.

It was also ... confession time ... my first visit to Arrowhead Stadium.

I will say, it was an experience I’ll never forget. The atmosphere, the tailgating, the fans ... it was all amazing. But, at the same time, it was just about as frustrating a game as you’ll ever see.

The funny thing is, though, Alex Smith had your typical, average Alex Smith performance. The Chiefs QB threw for 261 yards, had one touchdown and one rushing touchdown, along with one interception. Pretty so-so, but that seems to be then norm for No. 11. Spencer Ware rushed for 69 yards on 17 attempts, a stat line that pretty much was his average performance on the ground in 2016.

I did some digging and found the postgame column of The Kansas City Star’s Sam Mellinger. You don’t have to read too much to remind yourself of how that game panned out.

What could’ve been another ugly Chiefs win turned into an ugly-as-vomit 19-17 loss to the mediocre Buccaneers at home on Sunday the moment quarterback Alex Smith executed a bad throw, poorly leading to an interception in the end zone when even a field goal would’ve probably been enough to win.

The biggest frustration, aside from the inability of the offense to score, was the red zone performance by Smith. Most notably, Smith threw a crucial interception from Tampa Bay’s six-yard line (the one referenced by Sam above) with KC trailing 12-10 early in the fourth quarter.

I won’t spend too much time dwelling on the Smith interception, but it appeared to be a predetermined read, where Smith failed to notice Chris Conte waiting in the middle of the end zone.

And as a Chiefs fan, you probably feel that this missed throw in the tweet below by Smith is one you see every Sunday.

Click here to see Tigerupyourbutt's lover boy make one of the throws that led to his AFCW ranking:
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/7/15/15945830/alex-smith-afc-west-red-zone-stats

The Chiefs scored in the red zone 46 percent of the time in 2016, which was 26th-best in the league. That’s about 10 percent worse than Kansas City’s red zone conversion rate in 2015.

Plus, what really makes the red zone inefficiency by Smith & Co. so frustrating is that the offensive line for the Chiefs did a pretty good job in 2016. According to Pro Football Focus, the Chiefs offensive line allowed the fewest pressures in 2016 (they tied with the Raiders) and Smith saw the lowest percentage of pressures on third down.

For an offense that operates like the Chiefs, scoring in the red zone has to be one of the most important parts of their game. Minus Tyreek Hill running wild throughout the field, there isn’t a big-play threat out there. It’s reasonable to contribute the lack of a play maker to Smith’s inability or unwillingness to take shots down the field.

So, if you were asked a trivia question on where Smith ranked in red zone passing performance in the AFC West in 2016, you’d be a winner if you answered with ... “dead last.”
2016 AFC West Red Zone QB Stats
Quarterback Passing Completion % Passing Yards TD INT Passer Rating Yards/Attempt Rushing Yards
Derek Carr 44/90 47% 306 19 1 91.9 3.4 -7
Philip Rivers 45/96 47% 333 22 2 86.5 3.5 1
Trevor Siemian 28/55 51% 164 10 1 89 3 5
Alex Smith 29/63 46% 167 11 3 72.7 2.7 51
Statistics via Pro Football Reference

The only real edge that Smith has over the other three quarterbacks actually has nothing to do with his passing game. He has 51 rushing yards; the other three have -6 combined rushing yards. Congratulations.

Trevor Siemian threw for one less touchdown than Smith did in the red zone in 2016 but had eight less pass attempts. Smith’s passer rating was 16.3 percentage points worse than the next-best rating, owned by Siemian (89).

The Chiefs are at the point now where no one reasonably expects them to be any better than an average offense so long as Smith is behind center. The AFC West won’t be an easy division to play in in 2017 by any means, and if the Chiefs want to compete for a playoff run, improvement in the red zone should be one of their highest priorities.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Then we should draft a god damn QB and move on from him!

[Coochie liquor]

Read this earlier, what a joke Alex is. Game manager who can't score well in the red zone, his lack of running post concussion last year def killed some red zone opportunities. Can't wait to have a different qb in there.

[NWTF]

I guess not really surprising. Hes not comfortable throwing guys open and windows get tighter in the red zone. Not making excuses for Smith here but also in the red zone and the closer they get to the end zone is when Andy likes to break out some of his more head scratching plays.

Ultimately though I think its due to passing windows being more compact down in the red zone and Alex doesnt like to take chances. He does have the most rushing yards in the red zone though. lol

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith did, does and will always suck.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I guess not really surprising. Hes not comfortable throwing guys open and windows get tighter in the red zone. Not making excuses for Smith here but also in the red zone and the closer they get to the end zone is when Andy likes to break out some of his more head scratching plays.

Ultimately though I think its due to passing windows being more compact down in the red zone and Alex doesnt like to take chances. He does have the most rushing yards in the red zone though. lol

Some of Alex's best throws as a Chief came in 2015 to Maclin in the red zone. With Maclin gone, I think he should look to Conley or maybe Robinson to be his new WR target in the end zone. Conley is pretty good in tight contested situations.

[DaneMcCloud]

Alex had a typical Alex games against the Bucs, there's no doubt. But this writer undermines his point by claiming that the Bucs were "mediocre", which is outright bullshit.

The Bucs are a rising team that challenged for the NFC South crown with a 9-7 record. In addition to beating the Chiefs, they took the Raiders to overtime, beat the Seahawks, beat the Falcons once and the Panthers twice and lost on the road to the Cowboys by 6 points. This was no "mediocre" team.

The writer also fails to mentioned that Marcus Peters didn't play against the Bucs, which meant 5'11 Steve Nelson matched up against 6'5 Pro Bowl WR Mike Evans, which was a disaster.

Maclin missed the game and by that point, Spencer Ware had done his usual 4th quarter of the season disappearing act.

Had Maclin and Peters been available, the Chiefs would most likely have won that game, despite Alex being Alex.

[stumppy]

The worst QB in the red zone while his line allowed the fewest pressure in the ENTIRE league. That POS should be wearing a mask when he picks up his check.

[Rasputin]

Alex Smith did, does and will always suck.

Fact not Fiction

[Pablo]

Below Semen even? Disgraceful.

[RunKC]

It blows my mind that we have not tried throwing fades to Conley in the red zone.

The guy has the best vertical jump in the last 8 years and is 6'2" with long arms. So fucking dumb

[Hammock Parties]

It blows my mind that we have not tried throwing fades to Conley in the red zone.

The guy has the best vertical jump in the last 8 years and is 6'2" with long arms. So fucking dumb

Alex Smith has never been good at throwing that route. Kelce could beast on it, too.

[TLO]

Ah, another Alex Smith discussion?

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[Pablo]

Ah, another Alex Smith discussion?

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You can even read the thread title before you open it to save yourself time. It's a miracle!

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I love how this ignorant "writer" (please look at the reference ROFL) completely ignores the rushing TD's provided by Alex (5) and how he scored more than Ware/West combined (4), evidence that the run game was what truly hampered our red zone offense.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I guess not really surprising. Hes not comfortable throwing guys open and windows get tighter in the red zone. Not making excuses for Smith here but also in the red zone and the closer they get to the end zone is when Andy likes to break out some of his more head scratching plays.

Ultimately though I think its due to passing windows being more compact down in the red zone and Alex doesnt like to take chances. He does have the most rushing yards in the red zone though. lol

More compact and safeties who didn't respect our running backs. You can even see in the Bucs game the safety doesn't even bite when the ball was faked to Ware, he automatically went into pass coverage.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Read this earlier, what a joke Alex is. Game manager who can't score well in the red zone, his lack of running post concussion last year def killed some red zone opportunities. Can't wait to have a different qb in there.

You moron he wasn't running before the "concussion". He had 25 yards/0 TDs before the Colts game and then >100 yards with 5 TD's AFTER the "concussion"

People here need to fact check. Good grief.

[DaneMcCloud]

More compact and safeties who didn't respect our running backs. You can even see in the Bucs game the safety doesn't even bite when the ball was faked to Ware, he automatically went into pass coverage.

It's easy to understand why the Chiefs drafted Hunt in the 3rd round this year.

Ware has been okay when healthy but he's not a game breaker nor a guy that can consistently get 1,200 plus yards season to season. Much of his "success" is due to Andy's scheme. And, he's fallen off a cliff in December and January in both 2015 and 2016.

West was invisible last year. I know he lost 10 pounds and has been training hard this offseason but I still think he's a #3 back at best (although much better than Knile Davis or Cyrus Gray).

Hopefully, Hunt can deliver the goods.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

And OP, you need to provide the link or at least the name of the author when you post this kind of stuff. Basic etiquette, idiot.

[DaneMcCloud]

And OP, you need to provide the link or at least the name of the author when you post this kind of stuff. Basic etiquette, idiot.

It's mid column, not that it matters.

The writer is a moron, which is typical of Arrowhead Pride.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It's easy to see why the Chiefs drafted Hunt in the 3rd round this year.

Ware has been okay when healthy but he's not a game breaker nor a guy that can consistently get 1,200 plus yards season to season. Much of his "success" is due to Andy's scheme.

West was invisible last year. I know he lost 10 pounds and has been training hard this offseason but I still think he's a #3 back at best (although much better than Knile Davis or Cyrus Gray).

Hopefully, Hunt can deliver the goods.

Yep, West is definitely #3. What I like about having him on the roster is he is pretty decent at catching in space. We now have 3 legitimate running backs who can catch and run. Falcons and Pats mauled teams last year with 20% of total pass yards coming from awesome YAC by getting the ball out to RB's that can make defenders miss.
I'm still certain that barring injury, this will be Smith's best season.
Escobar is also an underrated red zone TE who unfortunately was buried in the depth chart thanks to Mr. Reliable Jason Witten.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Speaking of rookie RBs, Texans draft pick D'Onta Foreman was arrested recently on marijuana and weapons charges.

But yeah, I hope Hunt can be a stud for us. Pretty much every RB to play in Reid's offense has looked even better than they really are, so my expectations are high.

[Al Bundy]

The Bucs were a slightly above mediocre team last year and Alex Smith lost that game on that interception.

[Hammock Parties]

the run game was what truly hampered our red zone offense.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> had a terrible red zone efficiency in 2016. A lot of that was due to throws like this one. Wide open and over throws it. FG instead <a href="https://t.co/cr0YFDgEeU">pic.twitter.com/cr0YFDgEeU</a></p>&mdash; Travis Steffen (@Travis_Steffen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Travis_Steffen/status/883779128666841089">July 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Go away, Geno. No one cares about your inane posts that have no factual evidence behind them.

[Spott]

More compact and safeties who didn't respect our running backs. You can even see in the Bucs game the safety doesn't even bite when the ball was faked to Ware, he automatically went into pass coverage.

And then Alex Smith stares right at the same defender and throws it right to him, costing us the game.

[Pablo]

Why is your rep turned off Tiger?

[Rasputin]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> had a terrible red zone efficiency in 2016. A lot of that was due to throws like this one. Wide open and over throws it. FG instead <a href="https://t.co/cr0YFDgEeU">pic.twitter.com/cr0YFDgEeU</a></p>&mdash; Travis Steffen (@Travis_Steffen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Travis_Steffen/status/883779128666841089">July 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Patrick Mahomes II would have put that in the bread basket for a KANSAS CITY CHIEFS TOUCHDOWN

[CoMoChief]

The Bucs, Titans, and Steelers (playoff game) pissed me off more than most Chiefs losses.

[Hammock Parties]

Go away, Geno. No one cares about your inane posts that have no factual evidence behind them.

Au contraire my checkdown-loving friend. The worm has turned, as have the tables around this place.

90% of Chiefsplanet now supports my Jihad against the infidel Alex Smith. We wish to see his head thrust on a spike o'er the Arrowhead walls for all to see. To hear the weeping and gnashing of your teeth. To feel the restorative warmth of Patrick Mahomes spread throughout our fanbase.

The inane posts that no one around here cares about...are yours.

Let them reduce to a trickle before your stream of inconsequential ramblings dries up for eternity. The clock is ticking on your presence here and Alex's in Kansas City.

We encourage you both to wrap that shit up.

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[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

And how many support your believe that Geno will be a superstar ? Did anyone even agree with you when you said Tyreek would be a bust?

Silly kid.

[RunKC]

It's easy to understand why the Chiefs drafted Hunt in the 3rd round this year.

Ware has been okay when healthy but he's not a game breaker nor a guy that can consistently get 1,200 plus yards season to season. Much of his "success" is due to Andy's scheme. And, he's fallen off a cliff in December and January in both 2015 and 2016.

West was invisible last year. I know he lost 10 pounds and has been training hard this offseason but I still think he's a #3 back at best (although much better than Knile Davis or Cyrus Gray).

Hopefully, Hunt can deliver the goods.

Andy was a huge problem and a big reason we lost the playoff game. Ware had a TD and 4.4 YPC in that game and Hill had 3 carries of his own averaging 6 YPC.

The fact that Alex threw 34 passes that game was reason enough to lose.
The running game was not as weak as people said it was late in the year. Andy should have never put the game solely in Alex's hands.

Ware had only eight rushing attempts while averaging 4.4 YPC. Andy went full retard.

[Hammock Parties]

And how many support your believe that Geno will be a superstar ? Did anyone even agree with you when you said Tyreek would be a bust?

Silly kid.

Yeah no one cares about this shit. Unlike you I have the ability to admit when I'm wrong.

[Rasputin]

Andy was a huge problem and a big reason we lost the playoff game. Ware had a TD and 4.4 YPC in that game and Hill had 3 carries of his own averaging 6 YPC.

The fact that Alex threw 34 passes that game was reason enough to lose.
The running game was not as weak as people said it was late in the year. Andy should have never put the game solely in Alex's hands.

Ware had only eight rushing attempts while averaging 4.4 YPC. Andy went full retard.

Another reason to move on from Alex Smith and have a gunslinger quarterback. Andy Reid is just a pass happy coach so he must be embarrassed with his passing game and he did all he could to make Alex what he wasn't. He dialed up plays that should have gone deep but Alex doesn't trust his arm or something.


Once Patrick Mahomes II "Gets It" this offense is going be fun to watch.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Yeah no one cares about this shit. Unlike you I have the ability to admit when I'm wrong.


And not to forget you were also wrong saying the Raiders would beat us down last season, or how you were over at the Mane proclaiming Denver was a better team. You also said the team wouldn't win more than 9 games. Wrong over and over again, cupcake.

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah, no one cares. Really.

[MahiMike]

That game reminded me of the Marty days. Playing those close games is a coin toss. We lost that flip.

[SAUTO]

Go away, Geno. No one cares about your inane posts that have no factual evidence behind them.

How so you say that a post containing a fucking video has no factual evidence?

And fuck you for making me side with clay. Fucking asshole.

[SAUTO]

And how many support your believe that Geno will be a superstar ? Did anyone even agree with you when you said Tyreek would be a bust?

Silly kid.

Who still believes geno will be a superstar?

I think you are making that up.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Because one video summarizes a whole season of said "A lot of that was due to throws like this one."

:facepalm:

[Reerun_KC]

Ah the fan boy. Hates the chiefs franchise loves him some Alex.

Please kill yourself

[Reerun_KC]

Alex had a typical Alex games against the Bucs, there's no doubt. But this writer undermines his point by claiming that the Bucs were "mediocre", which is outright bullshit.

The Bucs are a rising team that challenged for the NFC South crown with a 9-7 record. In addition to beating the Chiefs, they took the Raiders to overtime, beat the Seahawks, beat the Falcons once and the Panthers twice and lost on the road to the Cowboys by 6 points. This was no "mediocre" team.

The writer also fails to mentioned that Marcus Peters didn't play against the Bucs, which meant 5'11 Steve Nelson matched up against 6'5 Pro Bowl WR Mike Evans, which was a disaster.

Maclin missed the game and by that point, Spencer Ware had done his usual 4th quarter of the season disappearing act.

Had Maclin and Peters been available, the Chiefs would most likely have won that game, despite Alex being Alex.

I truly miss the objective, less Homer version of Dane. You once were one of the best.

I miss you. Come back.

[DaneMcCloud]

I truly miss the objective, less Homer version of Dane. You once were one of the best.

I miss you. Come back.

Go fuck yourself.

Then tell me what's false in that post, you fucking moron.

[Reerun_KC]

Go **** yourself.

Then tell me what's false in that post, you ****ing moron.

If I go **** myself. Will you film it, edit it and produce it for all of CP to see? Could we charge for this service.

[BlackOp]

The Bucs were mugging the living shit out of Jones that game...it was so bad I actually posted video captures off my DVR. It allowed Winston to repeatedly convert some long 3rd downs. KC didn't register a single sack that entire game and should have had 3-4.

The only thing I could gather was the NFL wanted Winston/Bucs in the South hunt towards the end of the season....and the Vegas Raiders to make the post season. It was terrible.

[Red Dawg]

We hardly needed an analogy to tell us that 15 tds is not good.

[Reerun_KC]

The Bucs were mugging the living shit out of Jones that game...it was so bad I actually posted video captures off my DVR. It allowed Winston to repeatedly convert some long 3rd downs. KC didn't register a sack that entire game and should have had 3-4.

The only thing I could gather was the NFL wanted Winston/Bucs in the South hunt towards the end of the season. It was terrible.

Winston is a young highly marketable qb. He should get all the calls to boost his marketability....

We will get the benefit of this calls as soon as we jettison the broke dick qb.

[Pablo]

We hardly needed an analogy to tell us that 15 tds is not good.It's like you guys just forget his explosive rushing ability. 5 more TD's there. 20 on the season, that's more than one a game ya know. Pretty solid stuff.

[BlackOp]

Winston is a young highly marketable qb. He should get all the calls to boost his marketability....

We will get the benefit of this calls as soon as we jettison the broke dick qb.

And that reminded me of the time Ed Hochuli told Newton "you're not old enough to get that call"...if you break that quote down, it means officiating is skewed and biased. A foul is a foul regardless of seniority.

The rules only apply if the refs feel like calling them...and certain teams get certain penalties.

The easiest way to affect the outcomes is to ignore fouls on critical plays...like in the Tampa game. Chiefs couldn't get them off the field on 3rd down....

[jd1020]

What I've learned here is that one of the worst teams in the NFL in redzone TD% has a poor performing redzone QB.

Shocked.

[Reerun_KC]

And that reminded me of the time Ed Hochuli told Newton "you're not old enough to get that call"...if you break that quote down, it means officiating is skewed and biased. A foul is a foul regardless of seniority.

The rules only apply if the refs feel like calling them...and certain teams get certain penalties.
Get a franchise QB that plthe NFL can market and enjoy the benefits. Get yourself an Alex Smith' and enjoy nothing.

[Coogs]

Because one video summarizes a whole season of said "A lot of that was due to throws like this one."

:facepalm:

There is another one in that same game where Smith overthrows Kelce in the redzone for a sure TD from about the 12 or so. I'm not going to look it up, but it has been posted here before. FG instead of a TD.

[Coogs]

I will probably catch crap about being to negative for this one, but against Denver with the clock running out in the redzone, down 8, and no timeouts left. Smith hits Hill at the 1 or so, and Hill is tackled short of the endzone, but luckily for us did not catch the ball cleanly. Had he caught it cleanly we would have lost a game we won.

That was an amazing win, and one that makes me still smile today. But we were very fortunate at the same time.

[Red Dawg]

I will probably catch crap about being to negative for this one, but against Denver with the clock running out in the redzone, down 8, and no timeouts left. Smith hits Hill at the 1 or so, and Hill is tackled short of the endzone, but luckily for us did not catch the ball cleanly. Had he caught it cleanly we would have lost a game we won.

That was an amazing win, and one that makes me still smile today. But we were very fortunate at the same time.

We dodge a bullet there. Kelce was in the middle of the end zone all alone and obviously that is where Smith should have thrown the ball.

[DaneMcCloud]

If I go **** myself. Will you film it, edit it and produce it for all of CP to see? Could we charge for this service.

Stupid, as usual.

Tell us what false information I posted, Buttfuck.

[DaneMcCloud]

Get a franchise QB that plthe NFL can market and enjoy the benefits. Get yourself an Alex Smith' and enjoy nothing.

Gibberish

[Reerun_KC]

Gibberish

Hold on to that hope that Alex is going to lead a franchise to a Superbowl....

[DaneMcCloud]

Hold on to that hope that Alex is going to lead a franchise to a Superbowl....

I never said that, you drunken old fool

[milkman]

And OP, you need to provide the link or at least the name of the author when you post this kind of stuff. Basic etiquette, idiot.

So, please, who is the idiot?

The one that did actually provide the link, or the one that clearly didn't read the article, thereby missing said link?

[New World Order]

I never said that, you drunken old fool


Alex is franchise.

Shouldn't franchise qbs lead their teams to Super Bowls?

[Pablo]

So, please, who is the idiot?

The one that did actually provide the link, or the one that clearly didn't read the article, thereby missing said link?Idiots usually have their rep turned off. The know that the red strip under their name says everything about their takes.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"Perform" is not a word that should be associated with Smith.

Ever.

[cmdrzman]

Derek Carr is awesome-

Franchise QB

[Sandy Vagina]

Derek Carr is awesome-

Franchise QB

Maybe someday. Let's see him actually beat good teams.. or play well when his great OL doesn't block well.. or win a division.. or win a playoff game. I think he's an above average QB for a long time in Oakland. Awesome? meh. He has much work yet undone for that.

Game of Thrones time... whoooooooo!!!!! **** the Faid!

[RippedmyFlesh]

Maybe someday. Let's see him actually beat good teams.. or play well when his great OL doesn't block well.. or win a division.. or win a playoff game. I think he's an above average QB for a long time in Oakland. Awesome? meh. He has much work yet undone for that.

Game of Thrones time... whoooooooo!!!!! **** the Faid!

You and tiger always saying Great oline like the chiefs line isnt good. They both allowed 126 pressures last year. That the oakland line is way better than the chiefs is just alex delusional justification.

[Sandy Vagina]

You and tiger always saying Great oline like the chiefs line isnt good. They both allowed 126 pressures last year. That the oakland line is way better than the chiefs is just alex delusional justification.

Hard to quantify HOW MUCH better, but I think most Chiefs fans would agree on three things when discussing this.

(1) Last season's KC OL was good at pass pro... even if the quick pass scheme assisted.
(2) Not good in run blocking.
(3) Oakland's OL is >>>> KC's.

Ultimately, your post has nothing to do with mine. I can legitimately feel that Carr is being overrated, and that there's no genuine motive behind that assessment. You can spin and dance it, if you must though.

[New World Order]

Hard to quantify HOW MUCH better, but I think most Chiefs fans would agree on three things when discussing this.

(1) Last season's KC OL was good at pass pro... even if the quick pass scheme assisted.
(2) Not good in run blocking.
(3) Oakland's OL is >>>> KC's.

Ultimately, your post has nothing to do with mine. I can legitimately feel that Carr is being overrated, and that there's no genuine motive behind that assessment. You can spin and dance it, if you must though.

Here's another breakdown of the offensive line, not allowing Alex to deliver the ball

https://i.redd.it/m1nxd4dxd6ay.gif

[stumppy]

Hard to quantify HOW MUCH better, but I think most Chiefs fans would agree on three things when discussing this.

(1) Last season's KC OL was good at pass pro... even if the quick pass scheme assisted.
(2) Not good in run blocking.
(3) Oakland's OL is >>>> KC's.

Ultimately, your post has nothing to do with mine. I can legitimately feel that Carr is being overrated, and that there's no genuine motive behind that assessment. You can spin and dance it, if you must though.

Good ? just good huh. They allowed the FEWEST QB PRESSURE'S in the entire league.

[Sandy Vagina]

Good ? just good huh. They allowed the FEWEST QB PRESSURE'S in the entire league.

Nope. Sorry. Just good. The Alex and Andy scheme of getting the ball out quicker than shit was a nice yet painful way to disguise it.

Nothing wrong with good, though. Good is far better than they have been in years. (of course just pass pro.. their run prowess was the worst it has been since Andy Reid took over)

[stumppy]

Nope. Sorry. Just good. The Alex and Andy scheme of getting the ball out quicker than shit was a nice yet painful way to disguise it.

Nothing wrong with good, though. Good is far better than they have been in years. (of course just pass pro.. their run prowess was the worst it has been since Andy Reid took over)

ROFLROFLROFL

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Nope. Sorry. Just good. The Alex and Andy scheme of getting the ball out quicker than shit was a nice yet painful way to disguise it.

Nothing wrong with good, though. Good is far better than they have been in years. (of course just pass pro.. their run prowess was the worst it has been since Andy Reid took over)

Oh for fucks sake; dear God just drop him dead on the field so we can end this nonsense once and for all.

[New World Order]

Nope. Sorry. Just good. The Alex and Andy scheme of getting the ball out quicker than shit was a nice yet painful way to disguise it.

Nothing wrong with good, though. Good is far better than they have been in years. (of course just pass pro.. their run prowess was the worst it has been since Andy Reid took over)


What will the excuse be this season?

[Sandy Vagina]

What will the excuse be this season?

There are no ****ing excuses, assholes! Alex Smith has not been.. nor is likely ever to be... good enough.. to carry a team like the Chiefs through a SB.

You gettin' that?

That's right, He can help better your team from a 2-14 one to a top 4 AFC one... but he needs more than a team 20th ranked run game, top 5 in drop efficiency, and a coach that takes his foot off the gas when they get ahead.

You got better than that? Pat Mahomes? yeah? throw him in then! IDGAF.. Smith had his small measure of career redemption and is getting paid. Throw that unsigned rookie in there... NO MATTER WUT.. that shit will be entertaining!

[New World Order]

There are no ****ing excuses, assholes! Alex Smith has not been.. nor is likely ever to be... good enough.. to carry a team like the Chiefs through a SB.

You gettin' that?

That's right, He can help better your team from a 2-14 one to a top 4 AFC one... but he needs more than a team 20th ranked run game, top 5 in drop efficiency, and a coach that takes his foot off the gas when they get ahead.

You got better than that? Pat Mahomes? yeah? throw him in then! IDGAF.. Smith had his small measure of career redemption and is getting paid. Throw that unsigned rookie in there... NO MATTER WUT.. that shit will be entertaining!


LMAO

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

LMAO

Alex "More Weapons" Smith:

Loved by drooling fucktards the league over.

[Sandy Vagina]

LMAO

With no doubt, you and others will be throwing the same "excuses" forward when Mahomo gets any hint of criticism. ****ing hypocrite.

Then when met with any resistance, the excuse of "well he's just a rookie!" will cascade from your herpe-lips. Guess what asshole? that is just... another.. "excuse"... according to your own rules set forth.

Now suck it.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Good ? just good huh. They allowed the FEWEST QB PRESSURE'S in the entire league.

Because Andy Reid forces the ball out early you dumbass. Most sites had us ranked average, at best. Meanwhile the raiders dominated in both facets.

Ignorance.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It's like you guys just forget his explosive rushing ability. 5 more TD's there. 20 on the season, that's more than one a game ya know. Pretty solid stuff.

Pretty damn good considering the strength of schedule and both Charles and Maclin contributing nothing, despite hoarding 18 million bucks from the team

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Mahomes gets two full seasons as starter minimum before any judgement or criticism will be taken in to account.

Is what it is, Smith bitches. Deal with it.

[New World Order]

With no doubt, you and others will be throwing the same "excuses" forward when Mahomo gets any hint of criticism. ****ing hypocrite.

Then when met with any resistance, the excuse of "well he's just a rookie!" will cascade from your herpe-lips. Guess what asshole? that is just... another.. "excuse"... according to your own rules set forth.

Now suck it.


I have no problem giving Mahomes leeway early in his career.

But the rules are a bit different when you see a veteran like Alex lead a passing offense that's always been in the bottom half of the league the past 4 seasons.

[DaneMcCloud]

Mahomes gets two full seasons as starter minimum before any judgement or criticism will be taken in to account.

Is what it is, Smith bitches. Deal with it.

So, there will a moratorium on your bitching in 2020?

For some reason, I sincerely doubt it.

[DaneMcCloud]

I have no problem giving Mahomes leeway early in his career

Wow, so magnanimous.

Sweet Daddy Heroin will be proud.

[Sandy Vagina]

Mahomes gets two full seasons as starter minimum before any judgement or criticism will be taken in to account.

Is what it is, Smith bitches. Deal with it.

Like some meth-head, multi-banned, hop-off-n-on KC fan gets to call a ****ing thing!

Issues surrounding why a QB fails or succeeds is either an excuse or isn't. All of this, you have clearly set as precedent. Do not cower from it now.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Passing offense plagued with terrible receivers and a line that has only been ranked average once in 4 years.

Remind me where is Kyle Williams, Hemingway, bowe, Hammond and Avery right now?? ROFL . This place even bitches about Albert Wilson, constantly. Smith's fault, right?

Morons

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Why am I not surprised that SDH is being called out for the druggie he is... Shocking.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

So, there will a moratorium on your bitching in 2020?

For some reason, I sincerely doubt it.

What in god's name would make you even TRY to link Mahomes with the sorry enigma that IS Smith football?
If anything, I shift to full time Reid destruction at that point coupled with some WR abuse for good measure.
:)

[RunKC]

Here's another breakdown of the offensive line, not allowing Alex to deliver the ball

https://i.redd.it/m1nxd4dxd6ay.gif

Perfect protection, wide open easy TD wasted here:

<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/1sm1eo"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1sm1eo.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/1sm1hm"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1sm1hm.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

Even Alex knew it was a monumental fuck up.

<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/1sm1k1"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1sm1k1.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

Thank god Berry and ST's scored 16 points for us to win that game.

[New World Order]

Passing offense plagued with terrible receivers and a line that has only been ranked average once in 4 years.

Remind me where is Kyle Williams, Hemingway, bowe, Hammond and Avery right now?? ROFL . This place even bitches about Albert Wilson, constantly. Smith's fault, right?

Morons


-Lack of Weapons
-Receivers not open
-Play-calling
-Offensive Line
-Running Game
-Dropped passes

Then when we reach dropped passes, we start over.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Like some meth-head, multi-banned, hop-off-n-on KC fan gets to call a ****ing thing!

Issues surrounding why a QB fails or succeeds is either an excuse or isn't. All of this, you have clearly set as precedent. Do not cower from it now.

Why am I not surprised that SDH is being called out for the druggie he is... Shocking.

Feel free to keep running your "full of Smith babies" mouths; I will undoubtedly enjoy watching this entire board crucify you two morons on a daily basis for your efforts.

[New World Order]

Wow, so magnanimous.

Sweet Daddy Heroin will be proud.


Which Dane is here: the one that thinks Alex is mediocre, or the one that thinks he's a franchise qb?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

https://i.imgflip.com/1sm1k1.gif (https://imgflip.com/gif/1sm1k1)
.

You have uncovered and presented to us the Holy Grail summation of the entire Smith tenure in Kansas City.
Bravo!

[Sandy Vagina]

You have uncovered and presented to us the Holy Grail summation of the entire Smith tenure in Kansas City.
Bravo!

His exact words at that moment, he said to me, were "oh man, this team is cursed!"

#truth

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Which Dane is here: the one that thinks Alex is mediocre, or the one that thinks he's a franchise qb?

As a former druggie, I feel we should advise Dane that whatever medicine the doctor has been giving him for about two seasons now, is clearly NOT working.

[New World Order]

As a former druggie, I feel we should advise Dane that whatever medicine the doctor has been giving him for about two seasons now, is clearly NOT working.


LMAO

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

His exact words at that moment, he said to me, were "oh man, this team is cursed!"

#truth

Was that before or after you swallowed his unborn children?

[DaneMcCloud]

As a former druggie, I feel we should advise Dane that whatever medicine the doctor has been giving him for about two seasons now, is clearly NOT working.

Former?

Nice try.

[Sandy Vagina]

Was that before or after you swallowed his unborn children?

hey, YOU're the one obsessed with sucking on dicks. Guess it comes easy for you, as you spend your days workin to get your next fix. Mom would be proud.

[New World Order]

Alex really does bring everyone together.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

hey, YOU're the one obsessed with sucking on dicks. Guess it comes easy for you, as you spend your days workin to get your next fix. Mom would be proud.

Is that what you kids are calling "season tickets" these days?

[Hammock Parties]

Alex really does bring everyone together.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly3nnevl6K1rnvkm9o1_500.gif

[chiefzilla1501]

With no doubt, you and others will be throwing the same "excuses" forward when Mahomo gets any hint of criticism. ****ing hypocrite.

Then when met with any resistance, the excuse of "well he's just a rookie!" will cascade from your herpe-lips. Guess what asshole? that is just... another.. "excuse"... according to your own rules set forth.

Now suck it.

I highly doubt that.

What makes people's blood boil is watching Alex Smith check down when he doesn't need to. We don't know much about Mahomes. But we know he won't be the king of checkdowns, that's for sure.

[Sandy Vagina]

I highly doubt that.

What makes people's blood boil is watching Alex Smith check down when he doesn't need to. We don't know much about Mahomes. But we know he won't be the king of checkdowns, that's for sure.

Why not shoot that boiling blood at Andy Reid? Any intelligent person would... since Andy is the one person responsible for keeping Smith out there.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/Shocked.gif

[Reerun_KC]

Why not shoot that boiling blood at Andy Reid? Any intelligent person would... since Andy is the one person responsible for keeping Smith out there.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/Shocked.gif

I tried that a couple years ago and got flogged, banned from threads, MU'd ,etc... All because I blamed Andy for not forcing Smiths hand by taking away all of Smith's easy dumooffs and outlets.

[Sandy Vagina]

I tried that a couple years ago and got flogged, banned from threads, MU'd ,etc... All because I blamed Andy for not forcing Smiths hand by taking away all of Smith's easy dumooffs and outlets.

So you moved on to a different, more appropriate target... all because you were bullied into it?

Wow. What a huge pussy you are then. You had a belief, and had it beaten out of you by a bunch of other impotent, anonymous posters.

Well done. That will be your legacy then. Great job.

[RealSNR]

Passing offense plagued with terrible receivers and a line that has only been ranked average once in 4 years.

Remind me where is Kyle Williams, Hemingway, bowe, Hammond and Avery right now?? ROFL . This place even bitches about Albert Wilson, constantly. Smith's fault, right?

Morons

Well, given the upgrades at WR and OL the team has acquired throughout Alex's stead here, it would make sense that Alex would do stuff like increase his efficiency numbers or red zone scoring percentage or his overall stats.

What's that? He didn't?

It's still not Alex's fault! It can't be!

[RippedmyFlesh]

These QBs saw the least amount of pressure on 3rd downs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEYF3e9W0AIIO8j.jpg:large

[Reerun_KC]

So you moved on to a different, more appropriate target... all because you were bullied into it?

Wow. What a huge pussy you are then. You had a belief, and had it beaten out of you by a bunch of other impotent, anonymous posters.

Well done. That will be your legacy then. Great job.


ROFL

Silly n00b... You have no idea what halarious bullshit we have for legacies here.

[Sandy Vagina]

ROFL

Silly n00b... You have no idea what halarious bullshit we have for legacies here.

Not sure you pulled it off... but that was a very interesting way to try and deflect from that particular line of discussion.

Guess you did what you could.. seeing as you admitted finding a different source of blame, after your original one got you pushed around. :facepalm:

[Reerun_KC]

Not sure you pulled it off... but that was a very interesting way to try and deflect from that particular line of discussion.

Guess you did what you could.. seeing as you admitted finding a different source of blame, after your original one got you pushed around. :facepalm:
So I got pushed around? And then changed my opinion based on internet bullies?

[RippedmyFlesh]

Not sure you pulled it off... but that was a very interesting way to try and deflect from that particular line of discussion.

Guess you did what you could.. seeing as you admitted finding a different source of blame, after your original one got you pushed around. :facepalm:

How fucking stupid are you? Blame reid for playing smith instead of smith?

[New World Order]

How ****ing stupid are you? Blame reid for playing smith instead of smith?

Yes

That's their routine.

[NWTF]

These QBs saw the least amount of pressure on 3rd downs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEYF3e9W0AIIO8j.jpg:large

:)

Say it aint so.

Meh, dont matter anyway Smiths a short timer in KC.

[RippedmyFlesh]

:)

Say it aint so.

Meh, dont matter anyway Smiths a short timer in KC.

At least Patrick gets a good line.

[Nickhead]

two things:

rushing yards ranking - 15

passing yards ranking - 19

(pittsburg had 12 more rushing yards than kc last year FYI)

two more things.

rushing touchdowns ranking - 13

passing touchdowns ranking - 24

need i say more?

(i mean if our rushing was the problem last year, surely these numbers can't be right) :D

[tredadda]

Passing offense plagued with terrible receivers and a line that has only been ranked average once in 4 years.

Remind me where is Kyle Williams, Hemingway, bowe, Hammond and Avery right now?? ROFL . This place even bitches about Albert Wilson, constantly. Smith's fault, right?

Morons

If it's everything but Smith's fault why did the Front Office trade up to draft the polar opposite of Smith? Why did they not trade up for a receiver, OL, or RB? Or if they thought there were none worthy to trade up for why didn't they just stand pat for one and get their QB in RD 2?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

These QBs saw the least amount of pressure on 3rd downs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEYF3e9W0AIIO8j.jpg:large

This graphic means nothing, it just shows against offenses that are likely to pass, the defenses are pulling back into coverage.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If it's everything but Smith's fault why did the Front Office trade up to draft the polar opposite of Smith? Why did they not trade up for a receiver, OL, or RB? Or if they thought there were none worthy to trade up for why didn't they just stand pat for one and get their QB in RD 2?

:facepalm: changes made for THIS season... Dumped maclin and Charles, drafted Kareem hunt via trade up

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

hey, YOU're the one obsessed with sucking on dicks. Guess it comes easy for you, as you spend your days workin to get your next fix. Mom would be proud.

***drops mic ***

[rico]

hey, YOU're the one obsessed with sucking on dicks. Guess it comes easy for you, as you spend your days workin to get your next fix. Mom would be proud.

Your mom would be proud, eh? Is that why you suck Alex's penis so much? To make your mom proud?!?!?!

[rico]

With no doubt, you and others will be throwing the same "excuses" forward when Mahomo gets any hint of criticism. ****ing hypocrite.

Then when met with any resistance, the excuse of "well he's just a rookie!" will cascade from your herpe-lips. Guess what asshole? that is just... another.. "excuse"... according to your own rules set forth.

Now suck it.

Mahomo?

Man, I thought you were gonna pull for the kid to do well?!? With you referring to him as Mahomo, it's quite clear that you are a Mahomes hater, future Chiefs hater (when Alex get the boot) and well, as you've always been...an everyone except Alex hater.

[rico]

His exact words at that moment, he said to me, were "oh man, this team is cursed!"

#truth

So another far-fetched Alexcuse to add to the hundreds of other Alexcuses you've already used in this thread. Alex is playing for a team that is cursed...

Well, I guess we can't blame a QB for any shortcomings if their team is cursed!!! That would just be ignorant!!!!

[New World Order]

This graphic means nothing, it just shows against offenses that are likely to pass, the defenses are pulling back into coverage.

hehe

[Sandy Vagina]

With you referring to him as Mahomo, it's quite clear that you are a Mahomes hater, future Chiefs hater (when Alex get the boot) and well, as you've always been...an everyone except Alex hater.

Let's face it.

On CP, I was going to be instantly and unwaveringly labeled as a Mahomo hater no matter what. My well known appreciation for Smith demanded this.

So I may as well pretend to be exactly that, and have fun with it. All the while, I will be hoping Mahomes does very well... but you and others will not remotely accept this as the reality.

What fun would that be, right? It's more fun to imagine I am heartbroken, wishing horrible things on the guy that took my boo's job... because after all.. I am only in this for him, right? I couldn't possibly want the Chiefs to do well.. it's ALL about the name on the QB's jersey!

So go with that, then. :whackit:

[rico]

Let's face it.

On CP, I was going to be instantly and unwaveringly labeled as a Mahomo hater no matter what. My well known appreciation for Smith demanded this.

So I may as well pretend to be exactly that, and have fun with it. All the while, I will be hoping Mahomes does very well... but you and others will not remotely accept this as the reality.

What fun would that be, right? It's more fun to imagine I am heartbroken, wishing horrible things on the guy that took my boo's job... because after all.. I am only in this for him, right? I couldn't possibly want the Chiefs to do well.. it's ALL about the name on the QB's jersey!

So go with that, then. :whackit:


So you are just...a pretend Mahomes hater? And you are going to pretend that you are imagining terrible things for Mahomes? Even if that were the case (it's not your imagination...you genuinely do wish catastrophic things to happen to Mahomes, everyone else on the Chiefs not named Alex and Chiefs fans), then I think you just admitted to trolling. You'll be lucky if you don't get banned to the romper room, dick cheese.

Imagining being heartbroken sounds like so much fun!!!!


And you don't have an appreciation for Alex...you have a boner for him...a sexual attraction...BIG difference although I'm sure you have a little tiny one (penis) to reciprocate your big excuses.

[Hammock Parties]

These QBs saw the least amount of pressure on 3rd downs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEYF3e9W0AIIO8j.jpg:large

And on third down...

4. Big Ben 108.0
5. Brees 107.9
10. Carr 90.7
30. Smith 72.5

[Sandy Vagina]

So

You are just all kind of vicious today, haha! There ya go, baby... let it all out.

[rico]

You are just all kind of vicious today, haha! There ya go, baby... let it all out.

I didn't put it in all caps or italicize it, Fruity Pebbles.

[Mr. Plow]

There are no ****ing excuses, assholes!


But here is a list of excuses that we'll be using this year!



LMAO

[Lzen]

And on third down...

Those darn annoying statistics. :shake:

[beach tribe]

Why not shoot that boiling blood at Andy Reid? Any intelligent person would... since Andy is the one person responsible for keeping Smith out there.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/Shocked.gif

In case you didn't notice, we just drafted his replacement.


Andy was like most of us were...Hopeful that Smith would grow a set.

He didn't..You hangers on are the only ones with any faith left in Smith whatsoever.

[Tribal Warfare]

In case you didn't notice, we just drafted his replacement.


Andy was like most of us were...Hopeful that Smith would grow a set.

He didn't..You hangers on are the only ones with any faith left in Smith whatsoever.

They'll ban themselves straight to RR soon enough due to them blindly defending Alex like he's their first born infant son.

[PAChiefsGuy]

ZYF3V5xCEgY

[Hammock Parties]

ZYF3V5xCEgY

https://i.giphy.com/media/30swyC5E1ktVe/giphy.gif

[beach tribe]

This graphic means nothing, it just shows against offenses that are likely to pass, the defenses are pulling back into coverage.
ROFL

[Dayze]

if there's one way to shut down a below average passing game, it's to drop into coverage. NOT blitz.

everyone knows this.

~

[Rasputin]

Let's face it.

On CP, I was going to be instantly and unwaveringly labeled as a Mahomo hater no matter what. My well known appreciation for Smith demanded this.

So I may as well pretend to be exactly that, and have fun with it. All the while, I will be hoping Mahomes does very well... but you and others will not remotely accept this as the reality.

What fun would that be, right? It's more fun to imagine I am heartbroken, wishing horrible things on the guy that took my boo's job... because after all.. I am only in this for him, right? I couldn't possibly want the Chiefs to do well.. it's ALL about the name on the QB's jersey!

So go with that, then. :whackit:


You actually call Alex Smith "boo"

Wow.


You know how I know you`re gay?


NTTAWWT

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Alex smith QB rating of 102 with 4 or more receivers on field
...BUT HE CAN'T MAKE READS!

Smith #1 rated QB against the blitz per ESPN with QBR of 93 ,66% completion rate http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/129044/who-had-the-nfls-best-skills-in-2016
...BUT HE CAN'T HANDLE PRESSURE

Thread: Dwayne Bowe cut from Browns ,Thread: Albert Wilson Sucks. , Fact: Jeremy Maclin has most efficient season of career in 2015
...SMITH IS HOLDING DOWN HIS RECEIVERS!

Travis Kelce leads league in receiving yards. Phenomenal reception rate > 70%
Tyreek Hill Rookie Season: 73% reception rate (61/83), 6 reception TDs, 31 First downs, 31% target rate for eligible routes (highest in NFL)
...SMITH DOESN'T USE HIS BEST WEAPONS!

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If it's everything but Smith's fault why did the Front Office trade up to draft the polar opposite of Smith? Why did they not trade up for a receiver, OL, or RB? Or if they thought there were none worthy to trade up for why didn't they just stand pat for one and get their QB in RD 2?

Dorsey gambled and wanted the QBOTF now, rather than later, to LEARN from Smith. And his gambling in addition to his unprofessional handling of Maclin got him fired.

Next question.

[RunKC]

Alex only threw 11 TD's that weren't at or behind the LOS.

I wonder why Andy and Dorsey traded up 17 spots for Mahomes?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Alex put up more rushing TD's than Ware and West, combined.

I wonder why they drafted Kareem Hunt to play immediately.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9R7m2VYAAId3d.jpg

[Rasputin]

Dorsey gambled and wanted the QBOTF now, rather than later, to LEARN from Smith. And his gambling in addition to his unprofessional handling of Maclin got him fired.

Next question.

So Clark Hunt should fire himself because he gambled with the final say to trade up for Patrick Mahomes II. Dorsey couldn't have done that without Clark Hunt blessings and that deal was in the works prier to the draft.

[beach tribe]

Alex smith QB rating of 102 with 4 or more receivers on field
...BUT HE CAN'T MAKE READS!

Smith #1 rated QB against the blitz per ESPN with QBR of 93 ,66% completion rate http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/129044/who-had-the-nfls-best-skills-in-2016
...BUT HE CAN'T HANDLE PRESSURE

Thread: Dwayne Bowe cut from Browns ,Thread: Albert Wilson Sucks. , Fact: Jeremy Maclin has most efficient season of career in 2015
...SMITH IS HOLDING DOWN HIS RECEIVERS!

Travis Kelce leads league in receiving yards. Phenomenal reception rate > 70%
Tyreek Hill Rookie Season: 73% reception rate (61/83), 6 reception TDs, 31 First downs, 31% target rate for eligible routes (highest in NFL)
...SMITH DOESN'T USE HIS BEST WEAPONS!

15tds...

11 past the the line of scrimmage.

Team traded up 17 spots and drafted his replacement.

The debate is OVER.

Your fake fan ass will be gone when Smith is cut.
Just do us a favor and leave now.

[beach tribe]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9R7m2VYAAId3d.jpg

Which means he didn't read the field..

He just threw it to Reek.

Just like the amazing catch Reek made for his first Rec. TD.

Why am I still wasting my time on this loser?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Arrowhead Pride article from an ignorant writer, and you consider yourself a knowledgable loyal fan despite bailing ship when this team faced adversity in the past.

Rid of yourself, child.

[RunKC]

Dorsey gambles behind Clark's back and got fired because he drafted Mahomes?

Holy shit the denial has reached epic proportions and the season hasn't even started yet.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Which means, he didn't read the field..

He just threw it to Reek.

Ignorant post. 4 or more receivers on field: QB rating of 102

Fact.

[beach tribe]

Ignorant post. 4 or more receivers on field: QB rating of 102

Fact.

Smith routinely throws WR screens with 4 Rec on the field you fucking moron.

[RunKC]

I am old enough to remember Tigerclown saying "in Dorsey we trust!" and even having it above his avatar.

Boy has that story changed. Now Dorsey "went behind Clark's back" and drafted Mahomes which was why he was fired.

This poster is so hilarious to read. The denial and butt hurt is so so strong LMAO

[beach tribe]

Arrowhead Pride article from an ignorant writer, and you consider yourself a knowledgable loyal fan despite bailing ship when this team faced adversity in the past.

Rid of yourself, child.

WTF are you talking about?

I've been a fan of this team since I was 8?

You are not even a Chiefs fan, you're a Smith fan.

You'll go when he goes, guaranteed.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

WTF are you talking about?

I've been a fan of this team since I was 8?

You are not even a Chiefs fan, you're a Smith fan.

You'll go when he goes, guaranteed.

You're a fair weather fan. You disappear when this team loses.
Good on you, cupcake.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Time to change the Dorsey picture, cupcake.

[Hammock Parties]

Six months of these death throes from Tiger are going to be absolutely epic.

The fewer TDs Smith throws, the lower his QB rating sinks, the more boisterous his spasms will be.

[RunKC]

WTF are you talking about?

I've been a fan of this team since I was 8?

You are not even a Chiefs fan, you're a Smith fan.

You'll go when he goes, guaranteed.

He'll be here trying to knock Mahomes at every chance in his first start bc he is an Alex fan, not a Chiefs fan.

Everyone already knows

[beach tribe]

You're a fair weather fan. You disappear when this team loses.
Good on you, cupcake.

How the fuck would know?

I was HERE for Herm. For Matt Cassel. For Damon Huard.

I was begging the board for down and distance, pumping German quarters into a PC in an internet Cafe on the Reeperbahn during a 2-14 season, mother fucker.

I have been here through thick and thin.

A few years from now, I'll be able to say I was here for Alex Smith's sorry ass....and you won't be here, bitch.

[Hammock Parties]

He'll be here trying to knock Mahomes at every chance in his first start bc he is an Alex fan, not a Chiefs fan.

Everyone already knows

He won't be, actually.

He's going to be banned through November of next year if he loses both his bets.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Cute avatar, Geno. You must be so awesome at bets and predictions ROFL

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

He won't be, actually.

He's going to be banned through November of next year if he loses both his bets.

Kareem, Ware, Kelce, Tyreek, Conley, and Escobar say otherwise.

Red Zone efficiency will be much, much improved.

[beach tribe]

Time to change the Dorsey picture, cupcake.

Maybe I should change it to a drunk, washed up, skank fucker.

[beach tribe]

Kareem, Ware, Kelce, Tyreek, Conley, and Escobar say otherwise.

Red Zone efficiency will be much, much improved.

Yeah, but we'll still have Smith, so....

[Hammock Parties]

Kareem, Ware, Kelce, Tyreek, Conley, and Escobar say otherwise.

Red Zone efficiency will be much, much improved.

4/6 of those players were here last year.

So a rookie RB and a bust TE are going to magically make Alex Smith productive in the red zone.

Riiiiight.

[beach tribe]

Has there been a more blind, idiotic, and hated poster than this stupid fuck?

I can't think of one.

Way to go.

[beach tribe]

4/6 of those players were here last year.

So a rookie RB and a bust TE are going to magically make Alex Smith productive in the red zone.

Riiiiight.

Hell, doesn't he constantly blame some of those guy for Alex's downfalls?

[Mr. Plow]

Red Zone efficiency will be much, much improved.

So you're saying Smith won't be the QB this year? Weird.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I am old enough to remember Tigerclown saying "in Dorsey we trust!" and even having it above his avatar.

Boy has that story changed. Now Dorsey "went behind Clark's back" and drafted Mahomes which was why he was fired.

This poster is so hilarious to read. The denial and butt hurt is so so strong LMAO

You know what the greatest part is?

The more weapons you give Smith, the shittier he performs. Looking for a completely dog-assed, ultra-low confidence year from Capn' Franchisepantsharter.

It's gonna' be Sweet.

[Sandy Vagina]

In case you didn't notice, we just drafted his replacement.


Andy was like most of us were...Hopeful that Smith would grow a set.

He didn't..You hangers on are the only ones with any faith left in Smith whatsoever.

I "hangered on" no longer than Andy did, really.

I too kept waiting for Smith to take that last needed step. He did not, and I too would have wanted to draft a top QB. Just didn't like any of them enough to trade up to 10.

It would bother me not one bit if Smith suddenly elected to retire today. I'm ready for football, and IDGAF at this point who the QB is.

... but what fun could it be for you guys to believe this? Nope. Far more fun drama to believe I am falling apart over what is to come. :)

[tredadda]

Dorsey gambled and wanted the QBOTF now, rather than later, to LEARN from Smith. And his gambling in addition to his unprofessional handling of Maclin got him fired.

Next question.

He didn't get fired for drafting Mahomes. He could have had pretty much any QB yet took the one most unlike Smith. And he traded up for that guy. If everything else was the reason why Smith was being held back then they would have gone and got him more weapons earlier in the draft. Smith is limited because of himself, not the OLine, receivers, RBs, scheme, HC etc....

[rico]

I "hangered on" no longer than Andy did, really.

I too kept waiting for Smith to take that last needed step. He did not, and I too would have wanted to draft a top QB. Just didn't like any of them enough to trade up to 10.

It would bother me not one bit if Smith suddenly elected to retire today. I'm ready for football, and IDGAF at this point who the QB is.

... but what fun could it be for you guys to believe this? Nope. Far more fun drama to believe I am falling apart over what is to come. :)

Lies and/or excuses infest every one of your posts. This time it's lies. As soon as the Chiefs move on from Smith, you will be falling apart. When Smith is no longer playing, football will no longer be a part of your life because to you, Alex is football. You'll probably break down and end up on Skid Row, giving out blowjobs for expired Subway stamps... Your meltdown will hit its peak when you go to Subway and try to purchase a sub sandwich and they inform you that they haven't had the Subway stamp deal for over 10 years. A bunch of BJ's for nothing. You'll just have to eat the stamps to get by. You'll be so heartbroken...

[Pablo]

So you're saying Smith won't be the QB this year? Weird.Nice.

You know there's a whole lot of people crammed into a little area down in the RZ. Somebody with a whole lot of gigabytes could just get overwhelmed and overheat in those situations and decide to shit directly down their legs to cool off.

[Pablo]

Lies and/or excuses infest every one of your posts. This time it's lies. As soon as the Chiefs move on from Smith, you will be falling apart. When Smith is no longer playing, football will no longer be a part of your life because to you, Alex is football. You'll probably break down and end up on Skid Row, giving out blowjobs for expired Subway stamps... Your meltdown will hit its peak when you go to Subway and try to purchase a sub sandwich and they inform you that they haven't had the Subway stamp deal for over 10 years. A bunch of BJ's for nothing. You'll just have to eat the stamps to get by. You'll be so heartbroken...:clap:

Those paying customers are going to be pretty upset when the guy in the Smith jersey blowing them checks down to a handjob halfway through.

[Sandy Vagina]

See?!? Fun drama!!!! Got to have forum enemies, whoooo!!!!! :)

[beach tribe]

I "hangered on" no longer than Andy did, really.

I too kept waiting for Smith to take that last needed step. He did not, and I too would have wanted to draft a top QB. Just didn't like any of them enough to trade up to 10.

It would bother me not one bit if Smith suddenly elected to retire today. I'm ready for football, and IDGAF at this point who the QB is.

... but what fun could it be for you guys to believe this? Nope. Far more fun drama to believe I am falling apart over what is to come. :)

I'm not trying to bash you here, but it's been obvious that you are not going to be able to deal with Smith getting canned for Mahomes, and will not be a Chiefs fan when it happens.

Every time this discussion comes up you talk about Smith retiring.

The reason for that, is so that you can say, Oh, Well, that's why they did it.
Smith told them he was retiring, so they drafted someone.

Smith is not retiring.

He's already stated that he feels like he has a lot of years left.

He's getting replaced because he's a pussy.
He's scared of the rush, and he's scared to let the ball loose.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

#1 rated QB against blitz, runs for 5 touchdowns... yet somehow he is afraid of the rush.

The dumb is strong with this one

[Hammock Parties]

yet somehow he is afraid of the rush.

The dumb is strong with this one

You want to see what afraid of the rush is?

Say no more.

http://i.imgur.com/jZy7Z04.gif

Scared pussy running from a blitzer who is seven yards away, when he should be loading up.

[Hammock Parties]

Scared pussy abandoning a clean pocket for absolutely no reason.

http://i.imgur.com/w2lBPbn.gif

[Hammock Parties]

Another clean pocket he abandons when he should stand and throw a strike to either of those dudes in the middle of the field.

http://i.imgur.com/2svWDlI.gif

[Hammock Parties]

Scared of the rush and runs his pussy ass right into a sack. Want me to keep going, you mental midget?

http://i.imgur.com/Ohn2vbS.gif

[beach tribe]

#1 rated QB against blitz, runs for 5 touchdowns... yet somehow he is afraid of the rush.

The dumb is strong with this one

He's #1 vs the rush because he never throws the ball more than 5 yards.
It's like you've never watched the guy play. He CONSTANTLY bails out of clean pockets. Look at all the gifs of missed TDs where he bails from phantom pressure.

He's DEAD LAST in air yards.
DEAD LAST in red zone efficiency.
27th in TD passes.
22nd in Yards passing.

Those are the #s of a QB that SUCKS.

You can cherry pick all the BS stats you want.

Even the ones that seem like he's good at, like the one you posted, are good because he sucks.
His rating is good vs the rush because he checks down or throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage.

[Hammock Parties]

Clean pocket and runs from phantom pressure. Alex RUINS this pocket with his unnecessary movement.

http://i.imgur.com/kFf9nsb.gif

[beach tribe]

Another clean pocket he abandons when he should stand and throw a strike to either of those dudes in the middle of the field.

http://i.imgur.com/2svWDlI.gif

3 man rush. No pressure...Running for the sideline...

[Hammock Parties]

Another clean pocket. But he just looks to run....because he's a pussy.

http://i.imgur.com/LlUcGnk.gif

[Hammock Parties]

You wanna see what a QB who isn't scared of the rush looks like?

http://i.imgur.com/0nsCtzu.gif

[beach tribe]

That's all in ONE ****ING GAME!!

Edit: Except the last two.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lies and/or excuses infest every one of your posts. This time it's lies. As soon as the Chiefs move on from Smith, you will be falling apart. When Smith is no longer playing, football will no longer be a part of your life because to you, Alex is football. You'll probably break down and end up on Skid Row, giving out blowjobs for expired Subway stamps... Your meltdown will hit its peak when you go to Subway and try to purchase a sub sandwich and they inform you that they haven't had the Subway stamp deal for over 10 years. A bunch of BJ's for nothing. You'll just have to eat the stamps to get by. You'll be so heartbroken...

ROFL :clap:

Bless you, child.

Also, Clay STRAIGHT ass-raping Tigger Multingcunt right on back to the cardboard box he crawled out of.

[Hammock Parties]

Clay STRAIGHT ass-raping Tigger Multingcunt right on back to the cardboard box he crawled out of.

https://i.giphy.com/media/CQRqQ0LJo5oSk/200.gif

[Reerun_KC]

Wow.

[NJChiefsFan]

Alex had a typical Alex games against the Bucs, there's no doubt. But this writer undermines his point by claiming that the Bucs were "mediocre", which is outright bullshit.

The Bucs are a rising team that challenged for the NFC South crown with a 9-7 record. In addition to beating the Chiefs, they took the Raiders to overtime, beat the Seahawks, beat the Falcons once and the Panthers twice and lost on the road to the Cowboys by 6 points. This was no "mediocre" team.

The writer also fails to mentioned that Marcus Peters didn't play against the Bucs, which meant 5'11 Steve Nelson matched up against 6'5 Pro Bowl WR Mike Evans, which was a disaster.

Maclin missed the game and by that point, Spencer Ware had done his usual 4th quarter of the season disappearing act.

Had Maclin and Peters been available, the Chiefs would most likely have won that game, despite Alex being Alex.

Agreed. Well said.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Who allowed the meth head back on CP? Oh that's right, he got his make-a-wish.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

He's #1 vs the rush because he never throws the ball more than 5 yards.
It's like you've never watched the guy play. He CONSTANTLY bails out of clean pockets. Look at all the gifs of missed TDs where he bails from phantom pressure.

He's DEAD LAST in air yards.
DEAD LAST in red zone efficiency.
27th in TD passes.
22nd in Yards passing.

Those are the #s of a QB that SUCKS.

You can cherry pick all the BS stats you want.

Even the ones that seem like he's good at, like the one you posted, are good because he sucks.
His rating is good vs the rush because he checks down or throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage.
Cool story , girl. The fact is, he's #1 against the blitz and he's stellar when he has to make reads. His QBR has climbed year after year, and he continues to add more W's and is getting closer to the playoffs. Now if our highly paid supporting cast will actually show up in the playoffs, maybe we'll get a chance to win it all.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Cool story , girl. The fact is, he's #1 against the blitz and he's stellar when he has to make reads. His QBR has climbed year after year, and he continues to add more W's and is getting closer to the playoffs. Now if our highly paid supporting cast will actually show up in the playoffs, maybe we'll get a chance to win it all.

No one on that squad wants to waste their time and energy trying to drag that turd of yours to the Settling Basin of Greatness.

Give it up, Sparky; Alex supporters die off by the day and will begin to run for the life boat en-masse once they get a taste of the Mahomey Super Penii Slinger unleashing the dragon!

[RunKC]

Here's the other easy TD Alex missed to Ware:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/887155325681491968

To recap, we've got clear evidence of Alex missing wide open TD's with clean pockets being:

Ware vs Houston
Ware vs Atlanta
Conley vs Carolina
Hill vs Pitt

That's 4 so far and we haven't really even dig into it. Hmmm can you guys guess why we drafted Patrick Mahomes? :hmmm:

[Reerun_KC]

What's the old saying? The sooner Alex gets CTE, the better?

[NWTF]

These QBs saw the least amount of pressure on 3rd downs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEYF3e9W0AIIO8j.jpg:large

And on third down...

4. Big Ben 108.0
5. Brees 107.9
10. Carr 90.7
30. Smith 72.5

This either doesnt add up or is laughable.

The top 4 protected QBs on 3rd down.
Not surprisingly 3 of them rank in the top ten on 3rd down plays, as one would expect as they see the least amount of pressure on that down........ the other ranks 30th?

[Hammock Parties]

100% honest to god truth, bud.

If you really want to deep dive...

Big Ben - 133 att - 58.6% - 8.58 YPA - 11 TD - 2 INT - 6 sacks

Brees - 163 att - 67.5 - 8.1 YPA - 14 TD - 5 INT - 10 sacks

Carr - 155 att - 56.8% - 6.94 YPA - 7 TD - 1 INT - 5 sacks

Smith - 130 att - 60% - 6.68 YPA - 2 TD - 3 INT - 11 sacks

Smith is an oft-sacked cuck who doesn't throw the ball down the field or throw touchdowns on third down.

[NWTF]

100% honest to god truth, bud.

If you really want to deep dive...

Big Ben - 133 att - 58.6% - 8.58 YPA - 11 TD - 2 INT - 6 sacks

Brees - 163 att - 67.5 - 8.1 YPA - 14 TD - 5 INT - 10 sacks

Carr - 155 att - 56.8% - 6.94 YPA - 7 TD - 1 INT - 5 sacks

Smith - 130 att - 60% - 6.68 YPA - 2 TD - 3 INT - 11 sacks

Smith is an oft-sacked cuck who doesn't throw the ball down the field or throw touchdowns on third down.

Some of those sacks are self created by abandoning the play before it develops and scrambling into a sack.

[Hammock Parties]

Some of those sacks are self created by abandoning the play before it develops and scrambling into a sack.

https://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/you-dont-say.jpg?quality=88&w=600&h=350

http://i.imgur.com/Ohn2vbS.gif

[Trent Green GOAT]

Dear alex, I wrote you, but you still ain't ballin.
I left straights, streaks and Y-Post at the bottom.
I wrote two letters in 2013 autumn.
You must of not've got'em.

-TigerStan the alexsexual

[stumppy]

Dear alex, I wrote you, but you still ain't ballin.
I left straights, streaks and Y-Post at the bottom.
I wrote two letters in 2013 autumn.
You must of not've got'em.

-TigerStan the alexsexual

ROFL


Rep

[RealSNR]

http://i.imgur.com/Ohn2vbS.gif

And ironically, his checkdown option was wide the fuck open. Knowing his tentative nature, one would imagine that he would have kept a bead on Charcandrick from the moment he snapped the ball.

[Nickhead]

alex must get tired of hearing his receivers come to the huddle, where they all say in unison 'dood, i was open on that play'. :D

[New World Order]

Another clean pocket. But he just looks to run....because he's a pussy.

http://i.imgur.com/LlUcGnk.gif

ROFL

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Tigger and Alex:

Enjoying a Clay Rape on a lovely summers day...

[New World Order]

Dear alex, I wrote you, but you still ain't ballin.
I left straights, streaks and Y-Post at the bottom.
I wrote two letters in 2013 autumn.
You must of not've got'em.

-TigerStan the alexsexual

:clap: