****Official 7/17 Tigers v. Royals Game Thread***

[Coach]

Important 4 game stretch against the Tigers. Great opportunity to try to take 3 out of 4 against them and to add on some separation between Detroit and KC.

[GloryDayz]

C'mon Vargas...

[Coach]

And he fucking walked a run in..... :shake:

[penbrook]

Ump you fucking suck!

[GloryDayz]

The blonde behind the plate needs more sex.

[GloryDayz]

Ump you fucking suck!


They were balls. But he better call those both ways..

[Coach]

And he gets out of that jam without any more damage.

[lewdog]

I had a shitty day.

If the Royals win, I'll feel 13.8% better about today.

That is until work tomorrow.

[GloryDayz]

I had a shitty day.

If the Royals win, I'll feel 13.8% better about today.

That is until work tomorrow.

Just remember, high blood pressure is better than no blood pressure.

[Coach]

Zimmermann last 3 starts - ERA of 9.95.

Cool, we're gonna get owned by this guy.

[penbrook]

This ump is gonna die

[Ron Swanson]

This ump is ass.

[thebrad84]

Alright, this ump fucking blows

[penbrook]

That ball was literally right down the middle and called a ball

[Coach]

How about just walking Kinsler next time, eh?

[penbrook]

This game is over

[Al Bundy]

I hate that the Royals have to now score 2+ runs to win this game.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

We suck

[petegz28]

2 Ump assisted runs

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[Munson]

Damn, Vargas is getting destroyed.

[penbrook]

I hate that the Royals have to now score 2+ runs to win this game.

With this offense. It's over

[penbrook]

Time to sell guys

[siberian khatru]

What in the fuckity fuck?

[Al Bundy]

Oooops 5 runs. Vargas looks to be done for the night.

[gblowfish]

Vargy grooved that one right down the pipe. 430 feet later...it lands.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Time to sell guys

I thought you already told everyone we weren't selling?

[PHOG]

sigh

[thebrad84]

I think Vargas' magic has worn off..

[GloryDayz]

Should I stay or should I go? I doubt this team can answer with an ump that's going to make at least one pitcher groove pitches to get a strike. Our hitters just won't make their pitcher groove them (even if the ump called them both ways).

[GloryDayz]

LOL..

[siberian khatru]

I wonder if he's hurt

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Holy shit Vargas sucks

[KChiefs1]

Vargas regression has begun.

[Deberg_1990]

Vargas reverting to the mean

[C3HIEF3S]

Had to figure this was coming for a while now.

[lewdog]

And here's the likely aging Jason Vargas regressing towards his actual mean.

[GloryDayz]

Vargas might as well get himself tossed next time the ump fucks up like he did a few pitches back. It might be the best thing for his ERA.

[siberian khatru]

Vargas regression has begun.

It started in Seattle. That's two crap outings in a row (not counting the ASG).

[penbrook]

Perez has no plate discipline

[Al Bundy]

This game isn't over.

[penbrook]

Moose has hit a lot of pop ups recently

[Dartgod]

WTF ump??

[penbrook]

Does this ump know what the strike zone is?

[thebrad84]

Helluva AB there Esky

[Dartgod]

And then Esky watches a pitch even closer for strike 3.

[PHOG]

Where the hell did this ump come from? GO BACK!!

[GloryDayz]

This ump needs to be keel-hauled. This is complete bullshit now.

[thebrad84]

Helluva AB there Moss

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Moss is fuggin garbage

[mr. tegu]

Wow.

[penbrook]

This game isn't over.

No It is!!

[Al Bundy]

Nevermind.. Zimmerman just fucked shitty asshole Brandon Moss in his brown eye.

[lewdog]

So much for the comeback.........

[Coach]

I'm getting fucking sick and tired of seeing Brando Fucking Moss who can't even hit a goddamn breaking ball.

Give that motherfucker a Jobu or something. Sacrifice a live chicken. Something.

I hate this team......

[penbrook]

This isn't a playoff team honestly with the players we have right now. If we're serious about a DH we need to get one ASAP. Hell Martinez could switch jerseys in the middle of thegame

[GloryDayz]

With this ump, he had to swing! This ump needs on planted in his face mask! He'd recover!

If there was any other way to handle it I'd be fine with it, but this dick-hole's strike zone is fucking terrible.

[KChiefs1]

This team better turn it around quick or August will have whole different team on the field.

[cabletech94]

is it just me, or is Moss the biggest waste of money on this team, this year?

FML......

[PHOG]

3 straight pitches to B. Moss annnndd out. :shake:

[GloryDayz]

So much for the comeback.........

Clearly the Ump isn't going to allow any of that shit!

[KChiefs1]

This ump's strike zone is shitty.

[petegz28]

Worst umpiring we've seen in a while. Consistently fucking Vargy down the middle and consistently calling strikes well off the plate for Detroit

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[GloryDayz]

That's a strike if we're up.

[penbrook]

Ump that was a strike to Esky!!

[KChiefs1]

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[penbrook]

This is fucking pitiful

[petegz28]

And then Esky watches a pitch even closer for strike 3.
He threw 3 balls and 1 strike to Esky...

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[Coach]

Vargas's trade value taking a punishing blow....

[lewdog]

I think this is the real team.

Hover around .500 team.

I can't get optimistic anymore.

[penbrook]

Great now we only have one serviceable pitcher and that's Duffy

[tk13]

That was crushed pretty good. Ball is going to fly this week with the heat.

[GloryDayz]

Welp 1-0 or 50-0, it's not like the good guys are hitting..

[Al Bundy]

This should be a 120+ pitch night for Vargas, he is done for the season.

[cabletech94]

its a shame that didn't hit tom falleon in the wickets

[Coach]

Wished that foul ball hit the ump in the nuts...

[Al Bundy]

That was crushed pretty good. Ball is going to fly this week with the heat.

Not off the Royals bats. They put them away leaving Seattle and haven't bothered getting them out since.

[GloryDayz]

Makeup call? At 6-0 the Ump can afford to bring the stats into the "I called it fair-enough" zone.

[cabletech94]

That was crushed pretty good. Ball is going to fly this week with the heat.

unless you are a royal.

god dammit.

[KCUnited]

Thats 2 massive fires off 435 in one day.

[PHOG]

Huddler, that's because this ump is completely clueless.

[GloryDayz]

At least the Tigers are willing to show the Ump a little business.

[cabletech94]

i wish that kinsler would get hit in the nuts.....

[GloryDayz]

There's something else we don't seem to be able to do...

[penbrook]

Oh another triple!

[penbrook]

Bout ****ing time!!

[lewdog]

Fuck this team.

And fuck you guys.

[cabletech94]

i picked the wrong night to run out of beer.

[cabletech94]

**** this team.

And **** you guys.

hey, its almost time for training camp!

[lewdog]

hey, its almost time for training camp!

Fuck the Chiefs 100x more than the Royals.

[cabletech94]

blaming this loss on bufkin. it's in the royals repos. that's why.

[tk13]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old. This team is playing like complete crap out of the break but every single bad thing that happens is the end of the season.

[Coach]

You'd think they'd get it in their minds that Kinsler has always owned the Royals, that they'd at least recognize to start IBB'ing him.

Nope. Another triple.

Paulo Kinsler.

[cabletech94]

**** the Chiefs 100x more than the Royals.

yeah. think im gonna fire up the game system. oh yeah, and eff you, and eff this ump!!

[Al Bundy]

Fuck you Ned. Vargas should have gone 120+ for laying this turd.

[Coach]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old.

That's because there are expectations on this team, and they have woefully underperformed. So no, I don't think it's getting old because it's legitimate.

And they have been woefully underperforming since the beginning of the season. Alex's mysterious slump. Escobar swinging at balls and taking strikes. Sal swinging at pitches that isn't even in the same zip code of the strike zone.

Got pitchers who LOVE to nibble on corners instead of manning up and challenging the hitters every now and then. Ends up walking too many batters.

[Dartgod]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old. This team is playing like complete crap out of the break but every single bad thing that happens is the end of the season.

Most of them became baseball fans in 2014. It is annoying, I agree.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

If it wasn't for the sun, we'd probably be looking at a 7 game losing streak right now.

It's about time to commit to selling and attempting to reload the farm. This team just doesn't seem like it has the ability to pull off a 2014 type run . . . .

[CasselGotPeedOn]

**** you Ned. Vargas should have gone 120+ for laying this turd.

My god you're a mental midget.

[GloryDayz]

No Hud, I'd rather see him put it into the fountain like most of the Tigers seem to be able to do.

[GloryDayz]

Gay at-bat...

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Offense looks dynamite

[KChiefs1]

hey, its almost time for training camp!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/0d4ab86b66ec772783c54a11c6d85180.jpg

[GloryDayz]

LOL, our muscle can drop it short of their fielders...

[gblowfish]

They've got to do something with either Moss or Gordon's offensive failure. Your DH can't be a .190 hitter. Moss reminds me of a guy the Royals brought in as a DH many moons ago named Mike Jacobs. He could hit the ball a ton, when his bat actually touched the ball. He was good for three K's per night. Gordon....well, I don't know what the **** is wrong with Gordon. Maybe he's playing hurt, but he seems to move OK in the outfield. I don't know. He just seems lost at the plate. Hard to carry both of those sure outs in the lineup night after night after night. And Esky has just now started to hit a little. But now Moose, Cain and Hosmer are all slumping. Bad bad deal.

[GloryDayz]

Offense looks dynamite

Hitting on all 3 cylinders.

[KChiefs1]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old. This team is playing like complete crap out of the break but every single bad thing that happens is the end of the season.


Agreed.

They are only 2 games out of the division & WC but they need a sense of urgency.

[ChiefsCountry]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old. This team is playing like complete crap out of the break but every single bad thing that happens is the end of the season.

It's very annoying.

[tk13]

That's because there are expectations on this team, and they have woefully underperformed. So no, I don't think it's getting old because it's legitimate.

And they have been woefully underperforming since the beginning of the season. Alex's mysterious slump. Escobar swinging at balls and taking strikes. Sal swinging at pitches that isn't even in the same zip code of the strike zone.

Got pitchers who LOVE to nibble on corners instead of manning up and challenging the hitters every now and then. Ends up walking too many batters.

The first month of the season was derailed by a historically bad offense, and that's pretty much the long and short of this season so far. They've recovered though. The goal is to get around .500 and be healthy by July 1st, and despite all of their obstacles they've done that.

Our best pitcher missed 5 weeks on the disabled list and our 2nd best pitcher died in the offseason. Combined with the historically bad offense we saw, this season could be going a lot worse. A lot worse. I'd agree they're going to need a piece or two to have a chance to get over the hump though.

[Bearcat]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old. This team is playing like complete crap out of the break but every single bad thing that happens is the end of the season.

The Chiefs haven't done shit in decades, but you'll still find people defend them to the death.... they can beat a team destined for a 2 win season and if someone isn't terribly impressed, homers will actually say shit like "some people will never be happy!!"

I know the miserable fucks here probably don't even make up the majority, they're just the whiny majority.... but, you'd think with some, ya know, actual success, homers would have come out of the woodwork (even if it's not a Royals board). Sure, the knee-jerk shit will always exist, I'd just never really expect people to wallow in every negative play while wanting to break up a team that's done so much for the city.

[GloryDayz]

Hos trying to score 5 with one swing.

[lewdog]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old. This team is playing like complete crap out of the break but every single bad thing that happens is the end of the season.

I've had a bad day. I'm taking it out on this thread.

I feel like a quitter.

I'm sorry.

[GloryDayz]

Thanks Vargas..

[penbrook]

I'm done watching

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Offense looks high school level

[lewdog]

I'm done watching

Good.

You post again tonight and I'll Neg rep the shit out of you.

[Jerok]

Real professional at bat Hoz.

[Dartgod]

I've had a bad day. I'm taking it out on this thread.

I feel like a quitter.

I'm sorry.

You are not who he was talking about. At least I don't think he was.

Al Bundy is one of the worst offenders. But you won't see him polluting this thread again.

[Coach]

Holy Christ, Hos.....

[gblowfish]

Sometimes you're the windshield. Sometimes you're the bug.

I was at a game back around I think 2012 or 2013, it was Kyle Davies last start (Thank God) as a Royal. Cleveland kicked the day living shit out of us, something like 21 to 2. And I paid to watch that.

[GloryDayz]

This board has always been a bit knee jerk, but these wild overreactions to every bad thing that happens are kind of getting old. This team is playing like complete crap out of the break but every single bad thing that happens is the end of the season.

You sound like you're going to cry.

Lighten up Francis.

[lewdog]

You are not who he was talking about. At least I don't think he was.

Al Bundy is one of the worst offenders. But you won't see him polluting this thread again.

I said we look like a team that is going to hover around .500 for the rest of the season.......

[tk13]

You sound like you're going to cry.

Lighten up Francis.

No, there's no crying in baseball. I'm just not in the mood to deal with bullshit from stupid morons like you anymore. It's just wasting everyone's time. Do the world a favor and get off your period and stick your face in a blender.

[Why Not?]

I said we look like a team that is going to hover around .500 for the rest of the season.......

That's not really knee jerk though. That's honestly probably a pretty accurate assessment. There's a difference between saying "this team sucks and everything is fucked!"(a perspective I have certainly had at times)and some honest appraisal. This is a streaky team that plays really hot or really cold. That adds up to probably close to an inbetween 78-82 win team. Could they streak a bit more on the good side and win 86-88? Sure. They could just as easily go the other way and win 73. I've given up being to attached to the W/L record until late August.

[KChiefs1]

I said we look like a team that is going to hover around .500 for the rest of the season.......


I know the 2014 Royals were 48-50 but I'm not sure this team has a run like that in them.

[GloryDayz]

No, there's no crying in baseball. I'm just not in the mood to deal with bullshit from stupid morons like you anymore. It's just wasting everyone's time. Do the world a favor and get off your period and stick your face in a blender.

Yeah, you're crying. Go get an ice cream (but no sprinkles)...

As for the blender, it still has your dick in it!

http://allmygoodthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Ninja-Blender-Review-6-1024x681.jpg

[C3HIEF3S]

ROFL

Go to bed, guys.

[Coach]

The first month of the season was derailed by a historically bad offense, and that's pretty much the long and short of this season so far. They've recovered though. The goal is to get around .500 and be healthy by July 1st, and despite all of their obstacles they've done that.

Our best pitcher missed 5 weeks on the disabled list and our 2nd best pitcher died in the offseason. Combined with the historically bad offense we saw, this season could be going a lot worse. A lot worse. I'd agree they're going to need a piece or two to have a chance to get over the hump though.

Yes, I agree with you on the part on the first month of the season was derailed by a bad offense. But that bad offense is still persisting 3 months later with no resolution to either the LF position, DH, or SS position. And Dayton or Ned cannot stand here and tell me that the offense is going to get better, because they had 3 months to show for it, and still no improvement at all. Worse, they're not running like they used to in order to manufacture runs. That takes away their ability to come back in games.

I know that our 2nd best pitcher died in the offseason, and that the Royals were trying to sign players to help the team, but so far, every FA signing this year has been a complete failure all around.

Moss is just like what George Blowfish said, Mike Jacobs. Almost guaranteed 3 K's. Hammel and Wood just have been absolute disasters and I felt the front office overreacted in the Ventura situation. Now they're having to deal the consequences of handing out contracts to players who weren't that good anyways. Hammel makes $9 million next year. Wood makes $6.5 million next year. Finally, Moss makes $7.25 million next year. Those three jokers takes up almost 20% of the payroll, assuming the payroll is at the $100-120 million range.

[GloryDayz]

Zimmerman with his 5+ ERA is better than our entire offense.

On a night were balls are flying off the bat!

Ugh!

[TLO]

Time to sell?

[lewdog]

That's not really knee jerk though. That's honestly probably a pretty accurate assessment. There's a difference between saying "this team sucks and everything is fucked!"(a perspective I have certainly had at times)and some honest appraisal. This is a streaky team that plays really hot or really cold. That adds up to probably close to an inbetween 78-82 win team. Could they streak a bit more on the good side and win 86-88? Sure. They could just as easily go the other way and win 73. I've given up being to attached to the W/L record until late August.

It really just feels like there's too many gaps in the pitching to hold up a long stretch run of wins. That, in my opinion, is this teams biggest deficits. Especially if Vargas regresses.

The offense is always hot or cold, for long streaks. Been that way for 4 years.

[TLO]

If it wasn't for the sun, we'd probably be looking at a 7 game losing streak right now.

It's about time to commit to selling and attempting to reload the farm. This team just doesn't seem like it has the ability to pull off a 2014 type run . . . .

Agree. Trade em all (except Salvy)

[Bearcat]

Reminds me of a crazy roommate from a while back... she'd be crying/angry/overreacting about some stupid shit, so I'd call her out on it and then all of a sudden I was the cryer/arguer/overreactor. Weird.

[GloryDayz]

yay

[GloryDayz]

Oh look, it's Moss..

[Coach]

It really just feels like there's too many gaps in the pitching to hold up a long stretch run of wins. That, in my opinion, is this teams biggest deficits. Especially if Vargas regresses.

The offense is always hot or cold, for long streaks. Been that way for 4 years.

I wasn't too worried about the pitching. The starting pitching has always been average anyways, but I was curious as to see how the pen will perform. They have... done OK, for a lack of better word.

Offense has been horrendous.

.248 BA - 11th out of 15 teams in the AL.
.300 OBP - 15th out of 15 teams in the AL.
.409 SLG - 12th out of 15 teams in the AL.
.709 OPS - 14th out of 15 teams in the AL.

This is a far cry to the 2014 and 2015 teams.

[ChiTown]

Vargas is just migrating back to the mean. He was never going to be a legit CY Young candidate. He had a helluva first half, but that's just not who he is. I expect we'll see a few more outings like this, but he'll get back to being what he's traditionally been in his career - a solid #3.

This is just a flawed team. Not enough pitching, not enough offense.......just an average team. That's okay. I suspect we'll play this hand out for the balance of the season and see if we can get both lucky and hot. I got no problem with that.

In the mean time, enjoy the roller coaster. It sucks right now, but it'll get better.

[Coach]

Meh.

[Dartgod]

Yes, I agree with you on the part on the first month of the season was derailed by a bad offense. But that bad offense is still persisting 3 months later with no resolution to either the LF position, DH, or SS position. And Dayton or Ned cannot stand here and tell me that the offense is going to get better, because they had 3 months to show for it, and still no improvement at all. Worse, they're not running like they used to in order to manufacture runs. That takes away their ability to come back in games.

I know that our 2nd best pitcher died in the offseason, and that the Royals were trying to sign players to help the team, but so far, every FA signing this year has been a complete failure all around.

Moss is just like what George Blowfish said, Mike Jacobs. Almost guaranteed 3 K's. Hammel and Wood just have been absolute disasters and I felt the front office overreacted in the Ventura situation. Now they're having to deal the consequences of handing out contracts to players who weren't that good anyways. Hammel makes $9 million next year. Wood makes $6.5 million next year. Finally, Moss makes $7.25 million next year. Those three jokers takes up almost 20% of the payroll, assuming the payroll is at the $100-120 million range.
So given all that, how in the hell are we under-performing expectations? Sounds like a .500 team to me.

[Coach]

So given all that, how in the hell are we under-performing expectations? Sounds like a .500 team to me.

Were you expecting Gordon to be batting a buck ninety two with a OPS+ of 56? I sure wasn't.

Were you expecting Moss to be batting a buck ninety one with a OPS+ of 68? I sure wasn't either.

I was expecting Gordon and Moss to be near or at their career averages with a OPS+ of 106. If they both were performing at their rate, then that would have netted the Royals a few more wins here and there.

Edit: Just to clarify, I am not upset at you, I'm just upset about the situation the Royals are in.

[Dartgod]

Were you expecting Gordon to be batting a buck ninety two with a OPS+ of 56? I sure wasn't.

Were you expecting Moss to be batting a buck ninety one with a OPS+ of 68? I sure wasn't either.

I was expecting Gordon and Moss to be near or at their career averages with a OPS+ of 106. If they both were performing at their rate, then that would have netted the Royals a few more wins here and there.

Edit: Just to clarify, I am not upset at you, I'm just upset about the situation the Royals are in.

My point is that 3 months into the season, why do you still have high expectations from this team?

[lewdog]

The guy with the 5.5+ ERA looks great tonight.

[GloryDayz]

The guy with the 5.5+ ERA looks great tonight.

Our offense is certainly in his camp tonight.

[GloryDayz]

ECHO Echo echo

[penbrook]

You just hurt our best hitter!!

[GloryDayz]

I guess the Ump is going to have to reverse his strike call there...

[penbrook]

As if this can get any worse

[GloryDayz]

As if this can get any worse

Well, Moss is up. So there's that.

[KChiefs1]

Mondesi getting called in Omaha.

[KChiefs1]

The guy with the 5.5+ ERA looks great tonight.


Clayton Kershawish.

[penbrook]

Moss I hate you so much

[penbrook]

We always make the shitty pitchers look good

[GloryDayz]

yay

[penbrook]

I know everyone here is probably happy that Esky possibly broke his wrist but numbers don't lie. He's been one of the top 3 hitters in all of MLB the past month

[Dartgod]

Ok, so for those that were still watching, what was the injury to Esky?

[Bearcat]

Ok, so for those that were still watching, what was the injury to Esky?

Fastball to the wrist.

[lewdog]

Last thing we need in a shit game, is guys taking these shots.

[Dartgod]

I know Cain is slumping, but Billy Burns here?

[GloryDayz]

The Tigers are killing us on the scoreboard and are now attempting to thin-out our ranks for the rest of the series.

We won't respond.

[gblowfish]

Just not our night tonight, guys. Everything going Motor City Kitties tonight.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

The Tigers are killing us on the scoreboard and are now attempting to thin-out our ranks for the rest of the series.

We won't respond.

That's because they're not retarded like you.

[GloryDayz]

That's because they're not retarded like you.

You know that doesn't make any sense, right? You fucking waste of sperm!

[lewdog]

The Tigers are killing us on the scoreboard and are now attempting to thin-out our ranks for the rest of the series.

We won't respond.

You honestly think those were intentional?

:facepalm:

[GloryDayz]

You honestly think those were intentional?

:facepalm:

No, but it's our fate.

[GloryDayz]

Nice play...

[Munson]

Feel the Burns!

[gblowfish]

Mister Burns....

[GloryDayz]

They should give us two for that..

[gblowfish]

Pending Free Agents working on their numbers in a blowout...

[penbrook]

Per Jeffrey Flanagan

Regarding the Alcides Escobar injury, Raul Mondesi has missed the last five games for Omaha with a sore back.

[gblowfish]

We should try to build a minor league team where every player in the lineup is named "Ramon."

[GloryDayz]

OK, that was funny, Moss is most effective when he doesn't swing the bat.

[gblowfish]

Let's see is Alex can do anything positive here....

[gblowfish]

Alex is just lost up there. Clueless. Absolutely clueless. They should sit him down for a week or so.

[GloryDayz]

Let's see is Alex can do anything positive here....

Helped the opposing pitcher's average.. That's positive.

[GloryDayz]

Alex is just lost up there. Clueless. Absolutely clueless. They should sit him down for a week or so.

Or so... Didn't we give Zach some time to workout his issues back in the day?

[gblowfish]

Where did Feliz find a turquoise cow to make that glove?

[GloryDayz]

Ned with the clueless look.

[T-post Tom]

Let's go Giants....