Raider Hater thread

[BlackOp]

Raiders have been like the red-headed, deformed step-child that you keep locked in a cage, under the stairs. You let him out twice a year on Sunday for a few drunken laughs with friends...then stuff him back where he belongs.

Since the NFL seems hell-bent on pretending this team is legit after a 15 year absence...A dedicated repository is needed for all things negative about this ass-boil of a team.

Donks seem destined for AFCW purgatory for the next half decade...so they dont really count anymore.

Fuck the Raiders....

[Rasputin]

My brother is a Raider fan


I hate my brother


But he is a pretend fan so nothing he says bothers me

[BlackOp]

Penn is holding out...after getting Emo-boy's leg smashed. Vegas law-makers are going to send their mob goons after him if he doesn't show up to camp...

The Raccoon is going to get ****ed up if they dont have a decent LT..he already sucks against good defenses.

[Demonpenz]

jay me

[TLO]

I've been lying in wait... like a snake in the grass... patiently waiting for a thread worthy of bringing this gif out of retirement.

The time has come.

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[Rasputin]

Still one of my favorite plays I loved what Brandon Flowers did in the endzone

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[BlackOp]

It's sad that the Raiders have sucked for so long...they weren't even worthy of a dedicated thread.

It was just understood that they were a perennial loser...so why bother.:shrug:

They are still good for 2 KC wins a year...but their fans seem to think they are world beaters now...

Time to stuff little Timmy back in his cage...

[Rasputin]

If Vegas crime is bad it's only going get worse.

[Psyko Tek]

Still one of my favorite plays I loved what Brandon Flowers did in the endzone

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the best part for me,
is the way he stares down the QB

[kysirsoze]

The Raiders are going to have to deliver on some of this hype before they are worthy of my hate. Their relentless shittiness has driven most of the hate out of me. It's in there somewhere, though.

[Rasputin]

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[cmdrzman]

Ya see that?

Anyone here know what this is?

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[Nickhead]

the only thing that scares me is this:

i proclaimed back when al davis implicated marcus allen in the oj saga, that as long as al was alive, they would not win another title.

well... here we are now, he's dead.

i am inclined to think the raiders are the recipient of a soft schedule after reading a couple things, but when you win, it build self esteem, and momentum.

if the raiders beat kc this year, home or away, (haven't looked at dates of games), then they are legit.

if not, then the former is true, that they were built up by strength of schedule. :D

[BlackOp]

The Raiders are going to have to deliver on some of this hype before they are worthy of my hate.

You have to figure...they haven't been relevant since dial-up modems. Most of the younger KC fans dont even realize that they were actually competitive at one point in history...

Soon as the refs try to rob KC of a win...the hate will return. They (the refs) were pretty consistent in keeping the blatant rigging out of divisional match-ups last year.

I'm not actually worried about the Bay-turds as a team....I'm worried about the un-warranted media-generated hype. There is a universal agreement amongst NFL Network puppet-heads that this team is a shoo-in for the AFCC game...which is dangerous. We've seen this play-out before with Manning.

Even Carr said for them to slow their roll...but there is an agenda working. Breaking his leg threw a monkey-wrench in the script last year...

[Nickhead]

Ya see that?

Anyone here know what this is?

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/526358/Lamar_Hunt_Trophy_Old.jpg

thing is davis has hoisted 5 of hunts trophy's. :D

[Nickhead]

they aren't cleveland, minnesota, or detroit tho :D

[Coochie liquor]

Ya see that?

Anyone here know what this is?

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[Chiefs=Champions]

Raiders are still irrelevant. Have had one winning season and still couldnt beat us. Their fan's opinions and team are irrelevant untill they earn it. They haven't.

[cmdrzman]

You have to figure...they haven't been relevant since dial-up modems. Most of the younger KC fans dont even realize that they were actually competitive at one point in history...

Soon as the refs try to rob KC of a win...the hate will return. They (the refs) were pretty consistent in keeping the blatant rigging out of divisional match-ups last year.

I'm not actually worried about the Bay-turds as a team....I'm worried about the un-warranted media-generated hype. There is a universal agreement amongst NFL Network puppet-heads that this team is a shoo-in for the AFCC game...which is dangerous. We've seen this play-out before with Manning.

Even Carr said for them to slow their roll...but there is an agenda working. Breaking his leg threw a monkey-wrench in the script last year...

The Raiders won more playoff games in 1 year than the Chiefs have won the last 20 years-

[Chiefs=Champions]

If your team hasn't won their division in 10+ years are you allowed to speak? Id say no. A whole decade of awful.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If your team hasn't won their division in 10+ years are you allowed to speak? Id say no. A whole decade of awful.

YUP

[Chiefs=Champions]

Its coming on 15 YEARS..!?

[cmdrzman]

Raiders are still irrelevant. Have had one winning season and still couldnt beat us. Their fan's opinions and team are irrelevant untill they earn it. They haven't.

Lets not try and make the Chiefs some sorta frekin benchmark every team has to overcome on their way to the SB mkay?

[Chiefs=Champions]

Lets not suck for 15 years, then we can talk about other teams success LMAO

[Reerun_KC]

Lets not try and make the Chiefs some sorta frekin benchmark every team has to overcome on their way to the SB mkay?

Dude we hired Herm, Roleo and had a murder suicide in the parking lot home of the Chuuuefs. We're not a bench mark for anyone.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Could argue that the raiders have been worse than the browns over the last decade plus. Scary stuff LMAO

[cmdrzman]

Dude we hired Herm, Roleo and had a murder suicide in the parking lot home of the Chuuuefs. We're not a bench mark for anyone.

Lets not forget one of Lamar Hunts sons raped his own handicapped sister in law that was a wheelchair too-

The Chiefs won one playoff game in 25 years- Using the Chiefs as a benchmark to determine whether a team is good or not is comical-

[Reerun_KC]

We're coming g out if the darkest of times for chiefs fans.

We will host the trophy in the next few years.

[cmdrzman]

There's a new sheriff in town-

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-teams-five-year-success-by-draft-class

[Coochie liquor]

The Raiders won more playoff games in 1 year than the Chiefs have won the last 20 years-

How many years ago was that year??

[BlackOp]

There's a new sheriff in town-

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-teams-five-year-success-by-draft-class

Shit-Sheriff....That article fails to even mention drafting Kelce, Morse, Peters and Jones. I'm just surprised they remembered to include Hill...

KC has been one the top drafting teams over the past 4 years...article is stupid. 3 All-Pros isn't worth bringing up, I guess...

[BlackOp]

Carr -"You always want people saying good things around this time," Carr said. "But also we know that that’s only because of what happened last year; that's not even this team. We know what we need to do better.

"We didn't even beat Kansas City ... last year. So I don't know why everyone is so excited."

They've watched the film on all those horrible, late, game saving calls...they know.

Carr seems as confused as myself as to why they are getting non-stop hype.

Just saw Charlie Casserly say "The Raiders are the best team in the AFCW"...I guess based on their 3-3 divisional record from last season? Their 0-2 record against KC...games in which they weren't even competitive? Then I saw he was wearing a NFL Network shirt...he's got his league-mandated script to repeat.

[Bowser]

http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/raiders-sign-bowl-of-oatmeal.jpg

[Bowser]

Carr -"You always want people saying good things around this time," Carr said. "But also we know that that’s only because of what happened last year; that's not even this team. We know what we need to do better.

"We didn't even beat Kansas City ... last year. So I don't know why everyone is so excited."

They've watched the film on all those horrible, late, game saving calls...they know.

Carr seems as confused as myself as to why they are getting non-stop hype.

Just saw Charlie Casserly say "The Raiders are the best team in the AFCW"...I guess based on their 3-3 divisional record from last season? Their 0-2 record against KC...games in which they weren't even competitive? Then I saw he was wearing a NFL Network shirt...he's got his league-mandated script to repeat.

Mack is going to get 30 sacks (just like Von Miller did a few years back), dontchaknow. Of course they're going to win it.

[88TG88]

Hate em

[BlackOp]

Hate em

The hate for Oakland isn't quit there yet...not to Denver levels anyway. They have to actually beat KC, someday, then it will happen pretty fast...

What IS starting to piss me off is how every NFL Network mouthpiece already is crowning them AFCW champs...bizarre. Like it's a done deal....

The fact there are very few Raiders fans here...is because they have been terrible forever and haven't beaten the Chiefs in two years. There is no ground for shit-talking....

[Baby Lee]

You have to figure...they haven't been relevant since dial-up modems. Most of the younger KC fans dont even realize that they were actually competitive at one point in history...

Soon as the refs try to rob KC of a win...the hate will return. They (the refs) were pretty consistent in keeping the blatant rigging out of divisional match-ups last year.

I'm not actually worried about the Bay-turds as a team....I'm worried about the un-warranted media-generated hype. There is a universal agreement amongst NFL Network puppet-heads that this team is a shoo-in for the AFCC game...which is dangerous. We've seen this play-out before with Manning.

Even Carr said for them to slow their roll...but there is an agenda working. Breaking his leg threw a monkey-wrench in the script last year...


For the youngsters [myself barely among them], it's a double whammy. Because even when the Raiders were competitive in the 90s, they were not competitive against the Chiefs. If there's a single greatest thing about the 90s that isn't Derrick Thomas, it's an undefeated decade against the Raiders.

Of course, Gunther and Chuckie ended that with aplomb knocking us out of the playoffs 48-45 in a last minute FG in 2000.

[Baby Lee]

http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/raiders-sign-bowl-of-oatmeal.jpg

Dude can't even phone a friend. He'd have to have one first.

[Mile High Mania]

You have to figure...they haven't been relevant since dial-up modems. Most of the younger KC fans dont even realize that they were actually competitive at one point in history...

Soon as the refs try to rob KC of a win...the hate will return. They (the refs) were pretty consistent in keeping the blatant rigging out of divisional match-ups last year.

I'm not actually worried about the Bay-turds as a team....I'm worried about the un-warranted media-generated hype. There is a universal agreement amongst NFL Network puppet-heads that this team is a shoo-in for the AFCC game...which is dangerous. We've seen this play-out before with Manning.

Even Carr said for them to slow their roll...but there is an agenda working. Breaking his leg threw a monkey-wrench in the script last year...

Man, it's amazing what one playoff win does for people...

[cmdrzman]

The hate for Oakland isn't quit there yet...not to Denver levels anyway. They have to actually beat KC, someday, then it will happen pretty fast...

What IS starting to piss me off is how every NFL Network mouthpiece already is crowning them AFCW champs...bizarre. Like it's a done deal....

The fact there are very few Raiders fans here...is because they have been terrible forever and haven't beaten the Chiefs in two years. There is no ground for shit-talking....

Former Chief Tony Richardson say Oaklands the only team that can take out the Patriots-

Burn your Richardson jeseys-

[Chiefs=Champions]

10+ years of having the worst team in football. That time could have been spent learning english.

[R8RFAN]

they aren't cleveland, minnesota, or detroit tho :D
or the cheaps ROFL Ypu know the cheaps belong in this group of misfits

[R8RFAN]

Man, it's amazing what one playoff win does for people...

:clap:ROFLROFLROFL

[BlackOp]

Former Chief Tony Richardson say Oaklands the only team that can take out the Patriots-

Burn your Richardson jeseys-

Well...if the BayTurds get their special "Mexico-style" officiating like against the Texans...they can beat anyone.

It will interesting if the NFL tries that shit against Brady, down there, this year.

Del Rio cant even be competitive against Reid...he's not going to beat Belichick/Brady with a crappy defense. Carr sucks against top teams anyway...2-9. Those two coming against Osweiler...

[BlackOp]

Man, it's amazing what one playoff win does for people...

You have internet in the cellar? How's the gruel?

[R8RFAN]

Cheaps haven't won anything since Gatorade was invented , lost their best WR and still have Smith...

[BlackOp]

Cheaps haven't won anything since Gatorade was invented , lost their best WR and still have Smith...

You lose either one of your WRs...for any amount of time and your team tanks.

Your team depth is shit...Chiefs still spanked that Raider-ass, last year, with their entire interior defense on IR.

Raiders are an injury away from collapse...

[Best22]

Cheaps haven't won anything since Gatorade was invented , lost their best WR and still have Smith...

Smith, Houston, Charles, Maclin, Ford, or Ware go down numerous times:
Chiefs rally and win
Won numerous games without Justin Houston (even Lt never got 22 sacks). Never whined just won

Carr hurts his pinky:
Raiders meltdown and allows the Panthers to take the lead
Always blame losses on a hurt finger and "cold"

[Best22]

Since 2013 Chiefs Raiders comparison


Playoff appearances: Chiefs: 3, Raiders: 1
Playoff wins: Chiefs 1, Raiders, 0
Division titles: Chiefs 1, Raiders 0

Head to head: Chiefs 7-1
Avg margin of victory: Chiefs, 29-16
Record: Chiefs 43-21/ Raiders 26-38

[cmdrzman]

Raiders rookie DT Eddie Vanderdoes from UCLA is wrecking sheet at Raider camp- He's going up against the best OL in the NFL and killing it, The Chiefs OL has some work to do with that dude-...You will know that name soon enough....

[BlackOp]

Raiders rookie DT Eddie Vanderdoes from UCLA is wrecking sheet at Raider camp- He's going up against the best OL in the NFL and killing it, The Chiefs OL has some work to do with that dude-...You will know that name soon enough....

How's LT looking in camp? ILB?

KC played against Jones and Poe everyday in practice...I think they will be fine.

[cmdrzman]

How's LT looking in camp? ILB?

KC played against Jones and Poe everyday in practice...I think they will be fine.

Penn will be inked in a couple weeks- Raiders are $20 million under and he's asking for another $3 million- Not going to be a problem- McKenzie and Penn are real close... They're not going to go into the season without him- Penn knows it, Reggie knows... it's just a matter of time- Penn doesn't need to be in camp- he's working out in LA from his tweets...

ILB, I'm glad you asked... Raiders are real pleased with rookie Marquel Lee from Wake Forest.. He's turned a bunch of heads in camp and his gem of a find by Reggie McKenzie late in the draft-

http://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2017/08/01/raiders-mlb-battle-marquel-lee-looking-the-part-early/?src=rss

Gareon Conley, Obi Melifonwu etc- Reggie hit on another fantastic draft- In fact it's right up there with his 2014 draft of Mack, Carr and Gabe Jackson-

[Eureka]

The fact that this thread has been started shows the Raiders are doing better as an organization and are due some hype this upcoming season. The Raiders have some great talent on their team.

[BlackHelicopters]

Every raiders fan deserves violent repeated anal gang rape. Dry, of course.

[Best22]

The fact that this thread has been started shows the Raiders are doing better as an organization and are due some hype this upcoming season. The Raiders have some great talent on their team.

The fact that it has taken so long for us to care enough to make a thread like this isn't something you guys should be proud of

I hate the Raiders more than the Broncos, but I'm a minority among KC fans. The fact that I could despise a team that hadn't made the playoffs in 14 years shows how deep it can go. Most of them were somewhat (and wrongly) apathetic towards the Raiders. That has changed in recent years, and now we are back to normal, as it always should have been

ftr

[BlackOp]

https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/8/4/16100168/raiders-training-camp-day-6-sean-smith-drops-to-second-team-three-of-top-four-draft-picks-out

Sean Smith gets demoted to 2nd string...Cooper missing another practice. Raiders top picks all sitting out....

Trouble on Shit-Mountain.

[cmdrzman]

https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/8/4/16100168/raiders-training-camp-day-6-sean-smith-drops-to-second-team-three-of-top-four-draft-picks-out

Sean Smith gets demoted to 2nd string...Cooper missing another practice. Raiders top picks all sitting out....

Trouble on Shit-Mountain.

Sean Smith is getting outplayed by another homerun hit signing from Reggie- Rookie CB Breon Borders from Duke... Derek Carr: "“Every time I turn the film on it’s like he makes a play, man who's #31?"

Another rookie DT Eddie Vanderdoes is wrecking the best OL in the NFL- a first rd talent Reggie got in the 3rd rd-

Rookie MLB Marquel Lee is having a great camp as well- Raiders with another very strong draft....This is why it's important to have a great GM- But you wouldn't know what ones like-

[BlackOp]

You wouldn't know what ones like-

Kind of like wins against the Chiefs...0-4 and looking like trash is the process.

Maybe in 2018/2019 some of these rookies will, at least, make them look respectable when they lose.

[NWTF]

https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/8/4/16100168/raiders-training-camp-day-6-sean-smith-drops-to-second-team-three-of-top-four-draft-picks-out

Sean Smith gets demoted to 2nd string...Cooper missing another practice. Raiders top picks all sitting out....

Trouble on Shit-Mountain.

So now they're in trouble, but I thought the NFL was rigged and was going to make the Raiders a good team regardless.

[BlackOp]

So now they're in trouble, but I thought the NFL was rigged and was going to make the Raiders a good team regardless.

The refs can only do so much....the Texans/Saints games were pushing the very limits.

Raiders actually play a big-boy schedule this season...Good luck getting away with those calls against the Pats in Mexico.

[cmdrzman]

Kind of like wins against the Chiefs...0-4 and looking like trash is the process.

Maybe in 2018/2019 some of these rookies will, at least, make them look respectable when they lose.


Ya see that Mitch Morse?

https://vine.co/v/i96lzT2ELma

[Bowser]

72-149

1 playoff appearance, 1 wild card loss

0 AFC West championships

27-57 AFC West record

Finished dead last 6 times in AFC West


That's what's happened in Oakland since the night Gruden took the Raider's anal virginity without consent in the Super Bowl.

[cmdrzman]

72-149

1 playoff appearance, 1 wild card loss

0 AFC West championships

27-57 AFC West record

Finished dead last 6 times in AFC West


That's what's happened in Oakland since the night Gruden took the Raider's anal virginity without consent in the Super Bowl.

Chiefs havent done any better- That's all in the past- what matters now is what happens now-

[R8RFAN]

72-149

1 playoff appearance, 1 wild card loss

0 AFC West championships

27-57 AFC West record

Finished dead last 6 times in AFC West


That's what's happened in Oakland since the night Gruden took the Raider's anal virginity without consent in the Super Bowl.

And 1 playoff win for the Cheaps in that same time period?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Supposedly the Faid offensive line looks like dogshit. Uh oh we've seen kid Carr shit his pants in every game the OL struggles in.

[cmdrzman]

Supposedly the Faid offensive line looks like dogshit. Uh oh we've seen kid Carr shit his pants in every game the OL struggles in.

It's the best OL in the NFL... keep dreaming sweet tits

[Best22]

Chiefs havent done any better- That's all in the past- what matters now is what happens now-

Technically, neither team has done anything that "matters" since 1983

Currently, the Chiefs have been superior

[Al Bundy]

Technically, neither team has done anything that "matters" since 1983

Currently, the Chiefs have been superior

I'd say the Raiders making the Superbowl in 2003 "matters".

[cmdrzman]

Technically, neither team has done anything that "matters" since 1983

Currently, the Chiefs have been superior

Since 83??

Raiders won this since 2000

http://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lamar-hunt-trophy.jpg?w=200&h=150

Chiefs have never won this trophy

So since 83- Raiders own the hardware- you don't

[Best22]

Since 83??

Raiders won this since 2000

http://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lamar-hunt-trophy.jpg?w=200&h=150

Chiefs have never won this trophy

So since 83- Raiders own the hardware- you don't

Those are nice. Front row seats to Tampa's coronation.

Division, conference titles are nice but pale in comparison to the Super Bowl win. And I thought we were talking about now. It will be very difficult for either team to make the Super Bowl now as the AFC is much, much stronger than it was back then. 2002 is irrelevant to the current rivalry.

[cmdrzman]

Those are nice. Front row seats to Tampa's coronation.

Division, conference titles are nice but pale in comparison to the Super Bowl win. And I thought we were talking about now. It will be very difficult for either team to make the Super Bowl now as the AFC is much, much stronger than it was back then. 2002 is irrelevant to the current rivalry.

How would you know? You've never won one- Tampa never makes the SB under Dungy- Raiders would have blown out any NFC team in the SB that year- Bucs were very fortunate to get the Raiders coach that same year- That same Bucss team coached by Dungy and Gruden and the Raiders blow them out

[Best22]

How would you know? You've never won one- Tampa never makes the SB under Dungy- Raiders would have blown out any NFC team in the SB that year- Bucs were very fortunate to get the Raiders coach that same year- That same Bucss team coached by Dungy and Gruden and the Raiders blow them out

I know the difference between seeing my team participate in the championship and actually winning it.

The difference is dramatic

[cmdrzman]

I know the difference between seeing my team participate in the championship and actually winning it.

The difference is dramatic

The only time you've seen the chiefs in the SB is playing Madden-

[Best22]

The only time you've seen the chiefs in the SB is playing Madden-

Wasn't talking about the Super Bowl.

Huge difference between being the champ and being a participant in the championship round.

[BlackOp]

Jesus...Raider fans are having to go back nearly 2 decades to find anything to talk shit about. ROFL

They arent winning 5 games in the last 2 minutes this season...if either WR gets injured, they'll miss the play-offs. They'll probably miss them anyways. Middle of the road roster that were the positive beneficiaries in every close game. That isn't sustainable against the 4th toughest schedule this season.

Their coaches arent top-level...and that will be exposed this year, like it was in final game against Denver. That team came out flat and uninspired...just like they did against KC.

The NFL keeps hyping them as a SB contender...but when you break it down, they are a slightly above average team that hasn't defeated any of the better teams in the past 2 years. 2-9 against play-off bound opponents.

Thems the facts....Signing a 31 year old Lynch doesn't make them better than last year. Miller had 800 yards and 12 TDs...they can only wish Mr. Skittles matches those numbers....which he wont. He's just a name-brand at this point.

[Eureka]

Jesus...Raider fans are having to go back nearly 2 decades to find anything to talk shit about. ROFL

They arent winning 5 games in the last 2 minutes this season...if either WR gets injured, they'll miss the play-offs. They'll probably miss them anyways. Middle of the road roster that were the positive beneficiaries in every close game. That isn't sustainable against the 4th toughest schedule this season.

Their coaches arent top-level...and that will be exposed this year, like it was in final game against Denver. That team came out flat and uninspired...just like they did against KC.

The NFL keeps hyping them as a SB contender...but when you break it down, they are a slightly above average team that hasn't defeated any of the better teams in the past 2 years. 2-9 against play-off bound opponents.

Thems the facts....Signing a 31 year old Lynch doesn't make them better than last year. Miller had 800 yards and 12 TDs...they can only wish Mr. Skittles matches those numbers....which he wont. He's just a name-brand at this point.

When Carr started his rookie season he was learning how to be a NFL QB
3-13

Second year the team was learning to compete 7-9 (They lost a lot of close games)

Third year the team was learning how to win 12-4 and they won a lot of close games.

This year they have expectation to win and they have to beat playoff bound teams. The GM has built a very good team and most Chiefs fans can see that they are a good up and coming team in this league.

[BlackOp]

When Carr started his rookie season he was learning how to be a NFL QB
3-13

Second year the team was learning to compete 7-9 (They lost a lot of close games)

Third year the team was learning how to win 12-4 and they won a lot of close games.

This year they have expectation to win and they have to beat playoff bound teams. The GM has built a very good team and most Chiefs fans can see that they are a good up and coming team in this league.

Your team has beaten Osweiler...that's the only play-off bound teams they have defeated in 2 seasons... and it took the refs against the Texans to do it.

Carr has never won in cold weather...in his career. Up and coming...sure, I'll give them that...but for NFL Network to act like they are the Patriots only competition, this season, is ****ing retarded. They were 3-3 in their own division..and the games against KC weren't very close. Chiefs turned it over 3 times in the last one and Carr still couldn't do anything...

If you are even a remotely objective fan...you would have to see the unending hype and scratch your head. JDR is not a top level HC....

[Bowser]

I mean for fuck's sake, the Raiders didn't crack .500 in THIRTEEN years. But yes, continue on with whatever this is that you're trying to pass as smack talk.

[R8RFAN]

Jesus...Raider fans are having to go back nearly 2 decades to find anything to talk shit about. ROFL

They arent winning 5 games in the last 2 minutes this season...if either WR gets injured, they'll miss the play-offs. They'll probably miss them anyways. Middle of the road roster that were the positive beneficiaries in every close game. That isn't sustainable against the 4th toughest schedule this season.

Their coaches arent top-level...and that will be exposed this year, like it was in final game against Denver. That team came out flat and uninspired...just like they did against KC.

The NFL keeps hyping them as a SB contender...but when you break it down, they are a slightly above average team that hasn't defeated any of the better teams in the past 2 years. 2-9 against play-off bound opponents.

Thems the facts....Signing a 31 year old Lynch doesn't make them better than last year. Miller had 800 yards and 12 TDs...they can only wish Mr. Skittles matches those numbers....which he wont. He's just a name-brand at this point.

And the Cheaps belong in the same breath as the Browns and the Lions and haven't done shit since I was a toddler and thats a long time... Don't talk shit about us being in like 4 Superbowls since your single moment in the sun... Cheaps suck they have sucked for decades and have been the biggest embarrassment team in the west... I think you are worse than the Chargers overall. Quit embarrassing yourself , Cheaps don't have jack shit to hang their hats on.

[Best22]

And the Cheaps belong in the same breath as the Browns and the Lions and haven't done shit since I was a toddler and thats a long time... Don't talk shit about us being in like 4 Superbowls since your single moment in the sun... Cheaps suck they have sucked for decades and have been the biggest embarrassment team in the west... I think you are worse than the Chargers overall. Quit embarrassing yourself , Cheaps don't have jack shit to hang their hats on.

In my time watching the NFL, Lions, Browns, Bills, and Raiders were one in the same...no playoffs.

[WilliamTheIrish]

There has been exactly one game in my lifetime that ever mattered between these two teams. The last AFL game and AFL Championship game ever played. Played at the Oakland-Alameda County Stadium on January 4, 1970.


Nobody cares about anything else.

[BlackOp]

Quit embarrassing yourself , Cheaps don't have jack shit to hang their hats on.
You should worry about Carr embarrassing himself...he had a below 40 passer rating TWICE last season VS. the Chiefs.

Just remember when you say KC sucks...they have beaten you 4 times in row. So by your own logic, you are saying the Raiders cant beat a team that sucks.

[Rausch]

You should worry about Carr embarrassing himself...he had a below 40 passer rating TWICE last season VS. the Chiefs.

Just remember when you say KC sucks...they have beaten you 4 times in row. So by your own logic, you are saying the Raiders cant beat a team that sucks.

You have to be an idiot not to see that the Raiders are building a similar team to the Cowboys.

The Raiders might have the best O line in the AFC this year, they have a very solid passing game, and Mack is looking like one of the top 10 game changers on D in the league.

I doubt Beast Mode is what he use to be but he's light years better than what they had before. I think Denver stays in that 8-8 range, SD climbs to that 8-8 range, and it's once again KC and OAK fighting for the division.

[cmdrzman]

Both the Raiders and Chiefs have good teams- The AFC West will come down to those two teams for a while now- I think both of them have surpassed the Broncos and Chargers- Rivalry is back, It's good for both teams- Having high levels of competition in our division better helps both teams going into the playoffs-

[Rausch]

Rivalry is back, It's good for both teams-

And I completely agree.

Hell, the NFL has gotten so stale I'd cheer for them if it was Raiders vs. Pats in an AFCC game only to root against them the following week...

[cmdrzman]

And I completely agree.

Hell, the NFL has gotten so stale I'd cheer for them if it was Raiders vs. Pats in an AFCC game only to root against them the following week...

Yup, I think everybodies tired of the Pats- Once Brady retires I think Belichick walks too- once that happens- the AFC is wide open- Nows the time to start jockeying for position when that happens in the next couple years if not sooner.. Ravens in decline, Big Bens on the brink of retiring, the Colts? eh.. don't see them much of a threat....Bengals are kinda a hit and miss- never really string strong seasons together- You could see the Raiders and Chiefs the next Pats and Steelers for a while in the AFC - I could see the Chiefs, Raiders and Titans the cream of the AFC crop in a couple more years- possibly the Texans if they get that QB

[BlackOp]

You have to be an idiot not to see that the Raiders are building a similar team to the Cowboys.



Minus a RB like Elliot....Oakland's paper-thin depth is where they will get into trouble this season. They are behind KC in a big way.

Chiefs were without Houston for 11 games and their entire interior defense was on IR (Howard, Bailey, DJ). They still went 12-4. Could the Raiders survive without Mack for 11 games? Could they win with back-ups along the interior? If Cooper is hurt, what happens?

Raiders gave up 24 points against a Denver offense that had only mustered 23 points in the previous 3 games combined. This was with the division on the line..they scored 6 points and looked terrible. That's on the coaching staff too..

Every team is at a disadvantage if the QB goes down...but the Raiders might be the most dependent. I dont know if they could win a game without him.

When it gets cold...you have to have a solid defense.

[Rausch]

I could see the Chiefs, Raiders and Titans the cream of the AFC crop in a couple more years- possibly the Texans if they get that QB

People hate on the Titans but they are building the right way.

There's too much good coaching there for me to not think they could take the last WC spot...

[Rausch]

Minus a RB like Elliot....Oakland's paper-thin depth is where they will get into trouble this season. They are behind KC in a big way.

True, but if Houston or Alex goes down we're fucked as well.

[Best22]

True, but if Houston or Alex goes down we're ****ed as well.

Houston has been "down" in some form or fashion ever since week 12 in 2015. We went 3-0 vs the Raiders without Justin Houston. Scores were: 34-20, 23-17, and 26-10.

Have you been watching Chiefs games the last 2 years? We can absolutely win without Houston.

That's why I'm so excited to have him back this year. Sky is the limit for this defense.

[BlackOp]

Raiders have a first time, 36 year old, OC this season...Todd Downing. So all 3 AFCW teams have a new OC.

It's a big jump from QB coach to OC...doubt he can outsmart Sutton. He has been a coach longer than Downing has been alive....

[Rausch]

Have you been watching Chiefs games the last 2 years?

You say stupid $3it like this but you expect me to be receptive to your opinion and not want to punch you in the fucking throat...

[Best22]

You say stupid $3it like this but you expect me to be receptive to your opinion and not want to punch you in the ****ing throat...

You seem nice

[cmdrzman]

Minus a RB like Elliot....Oakland's paper-thin depth is where they will get into trouble this season. They are behind KC in a big way.

You're drunk- Raiders are mad deep at RB- in fact they might have the best depth at RB in the entire league- they had 2 rookie RB's that both popped off damn near 6 yards a carry in Richard and Washington last year- they also drafted Elijah Hood that is tearing ass in TC.. The Raiders are 4 deep at RB- Not to mention they also have one of the best FB's in the NFL.. Don't kid yourself if you think Oaklands depth at RB is an issue-

Chiefs were without Houston for 11 games and their entire interior defense was on IR (Howard, Bailey, DJ). They still went 12-4. Could the Raiders survive without Mack for 11 games? Could they win with back-ups along the interior? If Cooper is hurt, what happens?

You're actually bagging on the Raiders WR's when the Chiefs basically have nobody??.. in fact, the Chiefs WR depth might be the worst in the NFL.. okay, we get the Hill fluff- but you're talking about depth? seriously? Oaklands got Cooper, Crabtree 2 1,000 yard WR's, along with Seth Roberts, Cordelle Patterson etc... You could honestly go around the country and poll 2,000 NFL fans and you might get 2 of them that could name any WR on the Chiefs- and those two live in KC-

When it gets cold...you have to have a solid defense.

You'd be wise to hold that tongue of yours- This aint the same Raiders defense you saw last year.. You'll know this to be true here in the next couple months

[cmdrzman]

Raiders have a first time, 36 year old, OC this season...Todd Downing. So all 3 AFCW teams have a new OC.

It's a big jump from QB coach to OC...doubt he can outsmart Sutton. He has been a coach longer than Downing has been alive....

The Raiders gave Derek Carr the green light last year to audible and call his own plays at the LOS,....Downing had a big part of that- which is why Musgrave was let go- dude was basically useless. -It's just like Mannings OC when he was with the Colts... dude was useless..that's why you saw Carr have a MVP season- Dude is the next great QB in the NFL.. he's smart, been reading defenses since he was 10 and can make every throw in the NFL... You do the 2014 NFL draft all over again and Carr goes #1 overall in the draft to the Texans.. that's a fact- Raiders hit the lotto and got him in rd 2 and took Mack in rd 1.. That Raiders 2014 draft is the best draft any any team has ever had the last 20 years.... I know it's incredibly frustrating for you to accept the fact Carr is with the Raiders.. It pains you, .. and you feel jilted- but there's nothing you can do about it but deal with it-

[Best22]

We beat the Falcons and Broncos without Maclin (both were road games)

Meanwhile, Crabtree gets his necklace torn off and the whole Raider team collapses.

[Rausch]

You seem nice

I'm really not...

[notorious]

True, but if Houston or Alex goes down we're fucked as well.

Who is this Houston guy you speak of?

[BlackOp]

You're drunk- Raiders are mad deep at RB- in fact they might have the best depth at RB in the entire league-

Does your house have a gas leak...Mr. Skittles is a marketing gimmick. He was terrible in his last year in Seattle. He looks like an over-weight, suburban housewife now...You just cut the RB that has 12 TDs last season.

Dallas has Alfred Morris and McFadden as back-ups...

[BlackOp]

he's smart, been reading defenses since he was 10 and can make every throw in the NFL...

He made all of 17 out of 41 throws against KC...for 117 years. Not really scared....ROFL

Those are 3rd string numbers...QB rating under 40?

[cmdrzman]

Does your house have a gas leak...Mr. Skittles is a marketing gimmick. He was terrible in his last year in Seattle. He looks like an over-weight, suburban housewife now...You just cut the RB that has 12 TDs last season.

Dallas has Alfred Morris and McFadden as back-ups...

Now you're just being dumb- and everybody here knows it... Beastmode is in the best shape he's been in the last 5 years- he's running with authority and tearing ass through the best OL in the NFL in TC.. You will soon see this as the Chiefs run defense is one of the worst in the NFL- you know this, the NFL knows this and the American people know this- Which is why the Chiefs are scrambling to sign DT's because they are thin and Jones is hurt- Lynch was dinged up his last year in Seattle which is why you see the low numbers- if you did any kinda of research you'd know this.. As Lynch said... "Run through a MF'er face".. And you will bear witness to this here soon enough-

[BlackOp]

Now you're just being dumb- and everybody here knows it... Beastmode is in the best shape he's been in the last 5 years- he's running with authority and tearing ass through the best OL in the NFL in TC.. You will soon see this as the Chiefs run defense is one of the worst in the NFL- you know this, the NFL knows this and the American people know this- Lynch was dinged up his last year in Seattle which is why you see the low numbers- if you did any kinda of research you'd know this.. As Lynch said... "Run through a MF'er face".. And you will bear witness to this here soon enough-

We''ll see who is being dumb...you want to count on an over-the hill, ex-retired, 31 year old RB that was showing signs of regressing 2 years ago...go ahead.

I'll win this bet...he's a glorified cheerleader at this point. He did is job...distracted the season ticket holders from the Vegas move.

[cmdrzman]

We''ll see who is being dumb...you want to count on an over-the hill, ex-retired, 31 year old RB that was showing signs of regressing 2 years ago...go ahead.

I'll win this bet...he's a glorified cheerleader at this point. He did is job...distracted the season ticket holders from the Vegas move.

You keep telling yourself that sunshine-- Adrian Peterson was 30 after he was suspended for a year and came back and tore ass to the tune of 1485 yards and 11 TD's

This is the best OL Beastmode has ever ran behind- He'll get 1200+ yards and 12 TD's this year... you been warned-

[BlackOp]

You keep telling yourself that sunshine-- Adrian Peterson was 30 after he was suspended for a year and came back and tore ass to the tune of 1485 yards and 11 TD's

This is the best OL Beastmode has ever ran behind- He'll get 1200+ yards and 12 TD's this year... you been warned-

Beast-mode is definitely not Peterson level anything...he had his worst statistical season in 5 years..two years ago. His YPC dropped by almost 1 1/2 yards.

To achieve that fantasy number you just pulled out of your ass...he would require at least 20 touches a game/300 attempts based on when he was in his prime.

Now who's being dumb?

[cmdrzman]

Now who's being dumb?

Why you, of course

You're so dumb you think a RB's numbers have nothing to do with the OL he runs behind-... I'm done talking about this- You will see here soon enough when he runs through the Chiefs DL like sh*t through a goose-

[BlackOp]

Your O-line was ranked 9th in run blocking...against a 3rd place schedule.

Quit acting like it was this juggernaut, mauling machine...it was #1 in PASS blocking. Big difference...

Dumb-ass...

[cmdrzman]

Your O-line was ranked 9th in run blocking...against a 3rd place schedule.

Quit acting like it was this juggernaut, mauling machine...it was #1 in PASS blocking. Big difference...

Dumb-ass...

Latavious Murray had 800 yards and 12 TD's behind this OL and he frekin sucks.... He split carries and hell, even he avg 4 yards a carry-

You should worry about the Chiefs run defense.. Why do you think the Chiefs are now scrambling to sign DT's off the street?

Want me to tell you why?

[BlackOp]

Latavious Murray had 800 yards and 12 TD's behind this OL and he frekin sucks.... He split carries and hell, even he avg 4 yards a carry-

You should worry about the Chiefs run defense.. Why do you think the Chiefs are now scrambling to sign DT's off the street?

Want me to tell you why?

Not because of this...he doesn't even have pads on. #FeastMode

http://i.cubeupload.com/8hd6lY.jpg

Interesting what Seahawk fans think...

"I would be surprised if he exceeded 600 yards and 4-6 TDs. Back issues don't magically go away with age. I hope he does better, but don't see it with the miles his body has already accumulated, year off or not.

One thing is for sure though, the NFL hype machine is fully on-board the Raiders' train."

[cmdrzman]

Not because of this...he doesn't even have pads on. #FeastMode

http://i.cubeupload.com/8hd6lY.jpg

Interesting what Seahawk fans think...

"I would be surprised if he exceeded 600 yards and 4-6 TDs. Back issues don't magically go away with age. I hope he does better, but don't see it with the miles his body has already accumulated, year off or not.

One thing is for sure though, the NFL hype machine is fully on-board the Raiders' train."

Well, there you have it CP- Your resident boy BlackOp just referenced a post from a fans message board that somehow were all suppose to take as gospel- save this incredibly ignorant post so that in the near future when he tries and throws this logic your way you can remind him just how got damn dumb he is-

You want a real pi? here-

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/64/02/04/13639954/3/920x920.jpg

[BlackOp]

Well, there you have it CP- Your resident boy BlackOp just referenced a post from a fans message board that somehow were all suppose to take as gospel- save this incredibly ignorant post so that in the near future when he tries and throws this logic your way you can remind him just how got damn dumb he is-

No...it's just like we've been telling the donko-tards about Charles. He's done...

Lynch is fat and slow now...with back problems. You hanging onto your memory of him years ago..and pretending it's now.

You're going to feel like a total sucker soon...even more than you already do. Suck that hype...suck it HARD. It will make the fall all that much sweeter...

[cmdrzman]

No...it's just like we've been telling the donko-tards about Charles. He's done...

Lynch is fat and slow now...with back problems. You hanging onto your memory of him years ago..and pretending it's now.

You're going to feel like a total sucker soon...even more than you already do. Suck that hype...suck it HARD.

You bring absolutely nothing to the table when you try and debate- You don't do any research, you just quote fans from other forums and believe everything you read- There's absolutely no substance to your argument what so ever- This is a pretty informative group here at CP and I actually think you might be the dumbest poster here- Congratulations-

[Best22]

Lynch is an older, west coast version of Eddie Lacy

[BlackOp]

So here is a tell tale sign of a NFL mandated agenda...its subtle..well not really. The average fan wouldn't realize their opinion has just been manipulated...this Raider-hype has been manufactured.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000827108/article/nfl-preseason-power-rankings-concerns-for-cowboys-ravens

In the above recent video about preseason power-rankings, they go into detail, team by team, about why they are positioned where they are...BUT once they get past #8 they switch to team 10-20. Guess who is Ranked #9..yep Chiefs. They skipped them in order to justify ranking the Raiders at #4. They didn't want to point out that the Raiders haven't beaten them in 2 seasons or explain how a 12-4 team is ranked so low. They wanted no critical debate on the topic...

When you get to the written aspect of the article rankings, there is not one mention of any player what so ever...no healthy Houston returning, no mention of Hill or Chris Jones. It's the only description that doesn't say anything about the actual 2017 team or justification for the ranking.

It's ****ed up...I watched the video for the sole purpose of seeing how they would rationalize (spin) putting the Raiders (#4) ahead of KC (#9)...they didn't have to, they just out-right skipped them.

There is absolutely zero chance this wasn't done deliberately in post production editing...or written out entirely from the start. Has anyone ever seen a 12-4 team completely ignored by the media? They want nothing to distract from their Carr hype...

I've pointed these discrepancies out in the comments section...and my posts keep disappearing.

[BlackOp]

Truth is Raider fans have waited 15 years for anything positive...so they will completely ignore the officiating that ushered in their rise from 7-9 to 12-4.

Interesting that the refs called a late return from Hill back against the Texans...but short spotted the Texans 3 times in a row...late, against the Raiders.

They are banking on people not recognizing these patterns against common opponents.

One fan from a Raiders forum noticed it....pasted as written.

First game of the year vs the Saints. Winning drive. We faced a 4th and 5 at the 18 yard line. Carr threw the ball well out of bounds towards Richard, game over, but refs called pi and kept us alive.

Our second win vs the Titans. They called Lewan for unnecessary roughness on the 3 yard line. They then still completed a pass into the end zone for the game tying score but they called Andre Johnson for a very questionable offensive pi, then on the Titans final attempt Carrie grabbed Harry Douglas in the end zone, but no call.

I think it was win #3 vs the Ravens that they could have won it with a FG at the end. They were one first down away from fg range and Joseph I think destroyed a receiver to end the game. As that happened live I thought for sure a flag would come in for unnecessary roughness. No flag.

Other games I can think of, PI against Tampa that gave the offense a 1st and allowed them to tie the game. Also, the many questionable calls against Houston.

We had 4th and 3 from the Bucs 5, Carr throws the ball out of the right corner of the end zone over Crabtree's head. Refs threw a holding call on Roberts who was on the opposite side of the field away from the play.

[BlackOp]

Here's what Texans fans thought thought of being a part of the magical Raiders-Vegas hype agenda...the last one sums it up. People dont like being ripped off...

"Cheated on the spot on 3rd down and cheated on the spot on 4th down. Unreal."

"I think the refs have been bought by the Mexican government, incredibly."

"I never complain about the refs but this is unbelievable."

"We arn't going to beat the Raiders AND the Zebras at the same time."

"the NFL's clear agenda on who they want to win and succeed."

"This loss goes on the NFL and the officiating crew....I cant believe they had the audacity to call that game the way they did on NATIONAL TV in front of a NATIONAL AUDIENCE"

"wow never seen a game so awfully officiated in my life"

"We won plain and simple but the refs and the NFL gift wrapped this game for them with unbelievable blatant calls"

"Absolutely disgusted. But this time it's not because of the Texans. I am absolutely disgusted by the obvious bias against the Texans by the NFL and officiating crew. If they have already chosen a winner for the game, there is nothing that can be done to change the ending. "

"We've all watched games and a call or two go your way or against, but this game, wow. I can't help think that the NFL powers wanted the Raiders to win in front of their (home town) of Mexico."

"Lots of blown calls all in favor of the Raiders in every quarter"

"We have been robbed this game that we deserved. I'm so frustrated. I'll probably need to get off the Internet before I get in trouble."

" these have to be union NFL refs. NFL has to be in on the fix or these refs would lose their jobs."

"Its time to sell all 4 of my PSLs...these games are fixed. The refs have full control...and I thought the NBA was bad. "

"I do not no what to say."

"Tell me this isnt rigged some how ? Im mad as hell at this BS !!”

"This is becoming as realistic as WWF."

"That was a first down. Heck it was a first down on the play before. Worst game I've watched in officiating."

"Before the game, I was a little puzzled how the Raiders had won seven games. They surely can't be that good. Then I saw the refs, and now I fully understand."

[BlackOp]

Here's something for KC fans to ponder....Raiders had two other games against common opponents last year that ended in game deciding officiating. Tampa and Titans. Hey, up and coming QBs not named Carr...what a coincidence.

I posted, that day, that the refs were letting Tampa hold at will...even posted screenshots as it was so over the top.

Then you have the Titans game where Reid calls a TO when the FG kicker is lining up...and never gives Hill another touch after breaking off a long TD in the first quarter.

Both of those games have Smith throwing a red zone INT late...see a pattern.

KC barely loses in uncharacteristic, strikingly similar fashion to the same teams Oakland beats in the last minute on questionable officiating. What are the odds...the SAME teams...just like the Texans?

I wont even go into Reid taking 7 minutes against the Patriots in the hurry up or Shanahan blowing the SB ...they are ALL in on it. It's a manufactured joke...a money grab...made to look semi-organic.

They answer to billionaire owners...you either play ball or are looking for a new line of work...*waves to Dorsey sitting on the beach*

[Eureka]

Carr is a great up and coming QB. Dude is very humble and is def the Raiders MVP. SB aren't won unless you have a great QB.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikVKpOurhVE

BlackOp just face it. Most here don't agree with you that the Raiders are just a lucky team who are gifted games by the refs. Respect is earned and the recent Raiders have earned most NFL fans respect.

[BlackOp]

Carr is a great up and coming QB. Dude is very humble and is def the Raiders MVP. SB aren't won unless you have a great QB.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikVKpOurhVE

BlackOp just face it. Most here don't agree with you that the Raiders are just a lucky team who are gifted games by the refs. Respect is earned and the recent Raiders have earned most NFL fans respect.

So what teams have the Raiders actually beaten...that would warrant respect?

There is no reason for them to be hyped to this level....its ****ing stupid. Your own QB said it himself...

What would Raider fans think if KC was ranked #4 after getting beat 5 times in row by your team...and you were ranked #9 after just sweeping the division? NFL should just go ahead and rank the Dolphins over the Pats while they are at it...all I can think is there are trying to manufacture a lost rivalry by pissing off Chiefs fans.

I'm being totally honest when I say it's a ****ing creepy state of affairs...that people can be swayed by testimonials over common sense.

I hate the NFL..it's The Liars Club...a sham..an extortion.

[BlackOp]

I only like sports for the competitive aspect..I dont want my team to unfairly win contests. There is no joy in that...

I dont care about anything other than a legitimate game. I find that interesting...and engaging.

Reading those Texans quotes pisses me off...they like their team, just like we all like our teams.

The NFL is trying to rig perceptions/outcomes to maximize profits....it's corrupted.

This isn't just a Raiders vs. KC issue..unfortunately they have chosen your team, a rival, to unfairly prop up.

[cmdrzman]

Here's something for KC fans to ponder....Raiders had two other games against common opponents last year that ended in game deciding officiating. Tampa

Raiders set an NFL record for most penalties in that game

23 penalties for 200 yards

Tell us again how the refs wanted the Raiders to win that game in Tampa...

You probably think the moon landing was shot in a studio in LA and that Elvis is still alive don't you?

The reason the NFL thinks the Chiefs are a 8 to 9 win team is because they lost some players and they have Alex Smith.. but the main reason is- winning 5 games on gimmick plays and turnovers rarely if ever carry over to the next season- It's part of the game- we get that- but to think thats gonna happen 2 years in a row is not using common sense-Whereas the Raiders earned those 4th qtr comebacks because they have a MVP franchise QB

[cmdrzman]

BlackOp about to blow a gasget-

The 2017 edition of “Oh Sunday Night” – the theme song for Sunday Night Football – will once again be sung by country star Carrie Underwood, and will feature not one, but two, members of the Silver and Black.

Both quarterback Derek Carr and defensive end Khalil Mack are featured in Underwood’s performance of “Oh Sunday Night” joining fellow NFL stars including Von Miller, Dak Prescott, and Julio Jones.

The NFL is out to get you dude-

[Best22]

Raiders set an NFL record for most penalties in that game

23 penalties for 200 yards

Tell us again how the refs wanted the Raiders to win that game in Tampa...

You probably think the moon landing was shot in a studio in LA and that Elvis is still alive don't you?

The reason the NFL thinks the Chiefs are a 8 to 9 win team is because they lost some players and they have Alex Smith.. but the main reason is- winning 5 games on gimmick plays and turnovers rarely if ever carry over to the next season- It's part of the game- we get that- but to think thats gonna happen 2 years in a row is not using common sense-Whereas the Raiders earned those 4th qtr comebacks because they have a MVP franchise QB


There was nothing "earned" about the Raiders-Texans Mexico fiasco.

Worst game I've ever seen.

Can't wait for the season to start. Off-season talk is dominated by fans of the Raiders and Chargers for a reason

[cmdrzman]

There was nothing "earned" about the Raiders-Texans Mexico fiasco.

Worst game I've ever seen.

Can't wait for the season to start. Off-season talk is dominated by fans of the Raiders and Chargers for a reason

That game was tied 20-20 with 6 minutes left in the game

Both teams had 2 possessions of the football

Texans got stuffed on 4th and 1.. they shoulda kicked the FG and went up 3.. but they got cute and it cost them, not that it would have mattered

What did the Raiders do next?

They marched 85 yards and scored a TD

Texans go down 7.. with 5 minutes left in the game... can the Texans prove they are better than Oakland and go down and score like the Raiders just did to them?

Um no... 2nd and 5 and they get sacked- making it now 3 and 9.. next play? a measley 4 yard pass... dumb play call by the Texans.. they punt

But wait- Texans still have life... there's enough time to get the ball back if they can stop Oakland on this down, it's 4th and 1 and and over a minute to go in the game.. C'mon Texans!!!.. get this stop and you get the ball back!!!

Ooops... 13 yard run by Murray

Game over

You lose....

Texans let Oakland march 85 yards and score- thats what cost them the game

The better team always wins in crunch time and OT... thats just a fact- Raiders were better- Texans couldnt stop Oakland nor could they move the ball on them in crunch time when it matters- thats what separates winners from losers

[BlackOp]

There was nothing "earned" about the Raiders-Texans Mexico fiasco.

Worst game I've ever seen.


That was some "next level" rigging. If the NFL is going to be that overt on a nationally televised game...where does it end?

My interest in this season was already waning...they are not going to let the Raiders miss the post-season. The NFL puppet-heads have gone full retard on the hype. It wont be just their games...it will be teams that are threatening to make the AFC play-offs.

I'll be keeping track of when and where questionable calls are made...It'll be interesting as they have to play good teams this year.

I wont be surprised if Brady is somehow unavailable for the Mexico game....

[Best22]

That game was tied 20-20 with 6 minutes left in the game

Both teams had 2 possessions of the football

Texans got stuffed on 4th and 1.. they shoulda kicked the FG and went up 3.. but they got cute and it cost them, not that it would have mattered

What did the Raiders do next?

They marched 85 yards and scored a TD

Texans go down 7.. with 5 minutes left in the game... can the Texans prove they are better than Oakland and go down and score like the Raiders just did to them?

Um no... 2nd and 5 and they get sacked- making it now 3 and 9.. next play? a measley 4 yard pass... dumb play call by the Texans.. they punt

But wait- Texans still have life... there's enough time to get the ball back if they can stop Oakland on this down, it's 4th and 1 and and over a minute to go in the game.. C'mon Texans!!!.. get this stop and you get the ball back!!!

Ooops... 13 yard run by Murray

Game over

You lose....

Texans let Oakland march 85 yards and score- thats what cost them the game

The better team always wins in crunch time and OT... thats just a fact- Raiders were better- Texans couldnt stop Oakland nor could they move the ball on them in crunch time when it matters- thats what separates winners from losers

I seem to remember it being 17-13 Texans when the controversial officiating began.

Texans deserved to end the Raiders season. It was justice

[BlackOp]

That game was tied 20-20 with 6 minutes left in the game

Both teams had 2 possessions of the football

Texans got stuffed on 4th and 1.. they shoulda kicked the FG and went up 3.. but they got cute and it cost them, not that it would have mattered



They didn't "get cute"...they made that first down three times in a row. The announcers said they were going to overturn that 4th down call when it was challenged...and didn't know what to make of the ruling.

I noticed you left off the refs robbing them of a long Hopkins TD...called the play dead. Who does that? All scoring plays are reviewed...you let it play out. Remember when the Donk player stepped out of bounds on that extra point return...they didn't call it dead.

[BlackOp]

NFL.com has them as the #4 best team in entire NFL...they were 3-3 in their own division. Their defense stinks...except for one player.

Agenda much?

[cmdrzman]

They didn't "get cute"...they made that first down three times in a row. The announcers said they were going to overturn that 4th down call when it was challenged...and didn't know what to make of the ruling.

I noticed you left off the refs robbing them of a long Hopkins TD...called the play dead. Who does that? All scoring plays are reviewed...you let it play out. Remember when the Donk player stepped out of bounds on that extra point return...they didn't call it dead.

That call was on the 16 of Oakland- even if you gave the Texans the 1st down- theres nothing to suggest they score a TD and go for 3 which they still would have lost 27-23.. But lets assume the Texans score- Now it's 27-20 Texans-

Raiders march 85 yards and score tying the game at 27-27

The Texans get the ball back with 4 minutes- get sacked and are forced to punt...giving the Raiders 3 minutes to get in FG range starting from their own 20- Raiders AGAIN march down the field to the Texans 20 and took a knee-

So don't ever bring this crap up again.. EVEN if you give the Texans a TD and that stupid spot you still cry about.. the Texans would have still lost the game.. Raiders would have simply ate the last 30 seconds and ran Jano out there for a 20 yard chip shot

GAME OVER

[BlackOp]

So.....what, in your opinion, has been the Raiders most impressive win in the past 2 seasons?

[BlackOp]

So don't ever bring this crap up again.. E

Houston was driving on that crap defense and would have burned another 2-3 minutes off the clock.

Texans had the momentum...and the refs flipped it, giving the Raiders another life.

The refs spotted them 7 points at least (Hopkins TD =4, bogus spot=3)

[cmdrzman]

So.....what, in your opinion, has been the Raiders most impressive win in the past 2 seasons?

Tampa

23 penalties for 200 yards and they came back and won it in OT

[cmdrzman]

Houston was driving on that crap defense and would have burned another 2-3 minutes off the clock.

Texans had the momentum...and the refs flipped it, giving the Raiders another life.

The refs spotted them 7 points at least (Hopkins TD =4, bogus spot=3)

LOL

You're a piece of work, you know this right?

You have penis envy...

You're mad because Oakland has a MVP franchise QB and are going to be a top AFC team for many years and its tearing you a new ass.. You don't like it.. and it's frustrating to you.. Get on meds-because they're gonna win a SB in the next 3 years and you might actually go off the deep end when it happens

[BlackOp]

LOL

You're a piece of work, you know this right?

You have penis envy...

You're mad because Oakland has a MVP franchise QB and are going to be a top AFC team for many years and its tearing you a new ass.. You don't like it.. and it's frustrating to you.. Get on meds-because they're gonna win a SB in the next 3 years and you might actually go off the deep end when it happens

No...you are too dim to understand my hate inst entirely geared towards Oakland...it's at the NFL powerbrokers. Raiders are an up and coming team...9-7/10-6 range. Oakland has nothing to do with how the NFL markets them...or instructs the officials.

[BlackOp]

Tampa

23 penalties for 200 yards and they came back and won it in OT

So your most impressive victory came against team that missed the play-offs...in TWO years? That's all you got?

I'm surprised the NFL hype-hustlers don't have you ranked #1 in league...quite the resume.

This is what one of your own fans wrote about the Tampa game...

"Other games I can think of, PI against Tampa that gave the offense a 1st and allowed them to tie the game."

"We had 4th and 3 from the Bucs 5, Carr throws the ball out of the right corner of the end zone over Crabtree's head. Refs threw a holding call on Roberts who was on the opposite side of the field away from the play."

[RE-eternal]

So your most impressive victory came against team that missed the play-offs...in TWO years? That's all you got?

I'm surprised the NFL hype-hustlers don't have you ranked #1 in league...quite the resume.

This is what one of your own fans wrote about the Tampa game...

"Other games I can think of, PI against Tampa that gave the offense a 1st and allowed them to tie the game."

"We had 4th and 3 from the Bucs 5, Carr throws the ball out of the right corner of the end zone over Crabtree's head. Refs threw a holding call on Roberts who was on the opposite side of the field away from the play."

Calling bullshit on your "quotes". The Raiders set an NFL record that game in regards to penalty yards and STILL won the game. Carr threw over 500 yards as well.

This is the same sorry ass Bucs team that came to Arrowhead and beat the Chiefs.

[cmdrzman]

So your most impressive victory came against team that missed the play-offs...in TWO years? That's all you got?



Got damn yer dumb

Yes, I think any team that can overcome 23 penalties for 200 yards and still win a game is pretty damn impressive- Regardless of what team it is-

You asked- and I gave it to ya-

[BlackOp]

Here's a fun factoid to shove up your Raider-lovin anus...

Carr has never beaten a team with 10 or more wins, in his career...that didn't have have Brock Osweiler at QB. The Mexico BS game..and as a back-up for Denver.

0-9 in that stat....in the past 2 years.

Raiders arent playing the Browns...so he's going to have to do something he's never accomplished this season...and do it 6 times. Cowboys, Giants, Dolphins, Patriots, Kansas City x2

[Coochie liquor]

Got damn yer dumb

Yes, I think any team that can overcome 23 penalties for 200 yards and still win a game is pretty damn impressive- Regardless of what team it is-

You asked- and I gave it to ya-

Here's one for ya little fella.

http://derekcarrmusic.com

[Hammock Parties]

:facepalm:

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799930_10155722784659974_5725772829626321828_n.jpg?oh=e9d0a43c980ce51ad711ea59778d22ef&oe=59ECA4C6

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Here's a fun factoid to shove up your Raider-lovin anus...

Carr has never beaten a team with 10 or more wins, in his career...that didn't have have Brock Osweiler at QB. The Mexico BS game..and as a back-up for Denver.

0-9 in that stat....in the past 2 years.

Raiders arent playing the Browns...so he's going to have to do something he's never accomplished this season...and do it 6 times. Cowboys, Giants, Dolphins, Patriots, Kansas City x2

The Jesuits didn't want him to win those games, ergo, your argument is invalid.

[BlackOp]

The Jesuits didn't want him to win those games, ergo, your argument is invalid.

The only thing that's invalid is your defense....

Weren't the Raiders relying on their rookie defenders to save them this off-season? The ones that haven't even practiced all training camp? How's that starting rookie MLB looking...

Your defense looked terrible against Arizona...and if S. Smith has declined as much as reported..you're down a starting CB too.

You'll always have the refs...but even they might not be able to bail you out, again, this season.

[jdubya]

Yep the Raiders D is questionable but the offense can be scary good. As compared to the previous 15 years they are fun to watch again. The division is much more fun when everybody is competitive.

[cmdrzman]

Yep the Raiders D is questionable but the offense can be scary good. As compared to the previous 15 years they are fun to watch again. The division is much more fun when everybody is competitive.

Raiders offense is potent-

Know this Chiefs fan.. This wont be a torrential down pour soak field nor broken finger.... You will know this to be true soon enough- Chiefs run defense was garbage last year- they lost Poe... Nothing suggests they will be better-

Beastmode will run up all over yer sheet... You will know this to be true soon enough.. prepare yer anus-

[BlackOp]

Raiders net points of +31 is the lowest total, for a 12-4 team, in NFL history. The late, one-sided, officiating made this glaring anomaly of a stat possible....it's never been done before. You have to barely win every close game just to pull it off..

The margin of victory was 2 1/2 points...good luck trying to replicate that against a much tougher schedule.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Raiders net points of +31 is the lowest total, for a 12-4 team, in NFL history. The late, one-sided, officiating made this glaring anomaly of a stat possible....it's never been done before. You have to barely win every close game just to pull it off..

The margin of victory was 2 1/2 points...good luck trying to replicate that against a much tougher schedule.

Ohhh,nice!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Raiders offense is potent-

Know this Chiefs fan.. This wont be a torrential down pour soak field nor broken finger.... You will know this to be true soon enough- Chiefs run defense was garbage last year- they lost Poe... Nothing suggests they will be better-

Beastmode will run up all over yer sheet... You will know this to be true soon enough.. prepare yer anus-

Beastmode's knees are too weak to even stand for the National Anthem. Fuck him and fuck you!

[BlackOp]

Ohhh,nice!

Just shows you...if the NFL wants to manufacture a winning record...they can.

I'm more worried about the refs than the actual Raider team. The NFL-hired talking heads have been unanimous on their "predictive programming" that the Raiders will be in the AFCC. The stats dont back that up...there is no objective reasoning for the uniform opinion.

Predictive programming is a psychological technique used by the government. It softens (tricks) the public, in advance, into accepting something they normally, otherwise wouldn't. This happens at a later date...once the idea has entered the public psyche.

It's almost impossible for the Raiders win that many close games, two years in a row.

An objective opinion would consider that KC had twice the net points at +72 and manhandled the Raiders in both games...also that their entire run defense was on IR and Houston missed 11 games. Not one talking head will address this...it's ignored....It's an agenda.

[cmdrzman]

Raiders net points of +31 is the lowest total, for a 12-4 team, in NFL history. The late, one-sided, officiating made this glaring anomaly of a stat possible....it's never been done before. You have to barely win every close game just to pull it off..

The margin of victory was 2 1/2 points...good luck trying to replicate that against a much tougher schedule.


They'll be hell to pay!!!!!

[BlackOp]

They'll be hell to pay!!!!!

No..there will be advertisements to pay!!!

[jdubya]

Raiders offense is potent-

Know this Chiefs fan.. This wont be a torrential down pour soak field nor broken finger.... You will know this to be true soon enough- Chiefs run defense was garbage last year- they lost Poe... Nothing suggests they will be better-

Beastmode will run up all over yer sheet... You will know this to be true soon enough.. prepare yer anus-

Why is it when I read your posts I am hearing it in the great Foster Books voice?

[BlackOp]

- Chiefs run defense was garbage last year- they lost Poe... Nothing suggests they will be better-

Beastmode will run up all over yer sheet...

At least know something about the Chiefs before posting mindless gibberish.

KC signed an $8 million dollar FA NT, Logan...who has better stats than Poe in about 2/3 the snaps. Bailey is off IR as is DJ...and Houston is finally healthy.

That last one should worry you...he's a better all around player than Mack, who hasn't sniffed 22 sacks in a season...

Looks like Penn is serious about holding out...and it's totally ****ing up your training camp o-line chemistry. Carr goes down...so does your season.

[BlackOp]

This Raiders marketing agenda is pretty fascinating to watch. Everyone knows that NFL corporate is always seeking new financial avenues to exploit...they've been trying to sell London as a home for a new franchise.

Someone in their corporate office saw Oakland as a team they could "re-market/image"....face it, they have been terrible for 15 years and that does none of the collective 32 owners any good. That is a lot of hidden money waiting to be made...they finally have a young QB, they can sell, who isn't awful.

They are essentially taking a page from Hollywood....where they spend a disproportionate amount of the films budget on marketing. They know their film is bad...but if they can get enough people to buy the fake internet testimonials/hype, they can get them out to see it.

Oakland is still the 7-9 roster from 2 seasons ago, just with manufactured fluff and hype...nothing has changed, only a public perception that has been deliberately crafted..

To show how gullible the unwashed masses are... Del Rio is second in line for Coach of the Year in Vegas betting odds @ 9/1. He's only behind Belichick...****ing DEL RIO. They are also the leading all bets on winning the SB.

This is a team that hasn't defeated a legit contender...ever...in the Carr era. Dumb people will buy anything...thats why the shopping channel exists.

I guess this what the NFL was destined to become...a bad Hollywood movie. Predictable script and terrible acting...

[New World Order]

At least know something about the Chiefs before posting mindless gibberish.

KC signed an $8 million dollar FA NT, Logan...who has better stats than Poe in about 2/3 the snaps. Bailey is off IR as is DJ...and Houston is finally healthy.

That last one should worry you...he's a better all around player than Mack, who hasn't sniffed 22 sacks in a season...

Looks like Penn is serious about holding out...and it's totally ****ing up your training camp o-line chemistry. Carr goes down...so does your season.

When Houston is fully healthy only Von Miller is in the same class as a pass rusher.

I expect him to have a huge year this season.

[Nickhead]

When Houston is fully healthy only Von Miller is in the same class as a pass rusher.

I expect him to have a huge year this season.

watt's not too bad either :D (don't you dare show fisher winning when he was hurt ROFL )

[BlackOp]

The NFL directed refs essentially robbed the Titans and Bucs of finishing 10-6 and a possible Wildcard appearance.

Carr breaking his leg was divine intervention...and the universe simply correcting itself. It wasn't karma on Carr per se...more on the league for being manipulative liars. Texans fans wave hello....

Poetic justice....and exposed the Raiders as being a play-off sham on the national stage.

[New World Order]

The NFL directed refs essentially robbed the Titans and Bucs of finishing 10-6 and a possible Wildcard appearance.

Carr breaking his leg was divine intervention...and the universe simply correcting itself. It wasn't karma on Carr per se...more on the league for being manipulative liars. Texans fans wave hello....

Poetic justice....and exposed the Raiders as being a sham on the national stage.

Goodell wants them to stay.

We all know what's coming. Don't be surprised if you see a few more Houston-type shams this season.

[BlackOp]

Goodell wants them to stay.

We all know what's coming. Don't be surprised if you see a few more Houston-type shams this season.


Oh..I'll be monitoring them all season...and when and where the flags fly. I'll be keeping track...it's the main motive for starting this thread.

Sad state of affairs when you have to focus on these things...just in the hope of getting a fair sporting event.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

The hype is ridiculous but the NFL will push it to order to improve the ratings. They want a rematch of the Tuck Rule game.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

The hype is ridiculous but the NFL will push it to order to improve the ratings. They want a rematch of the Tuck Rule game.

Neg Rep for poor English.

And being a Raider fan.

[cmdrzman]

This Raiders marketing agenda is pretty fascinating to watch. Everyone knows that NFL corporate is always seeking new financial avenues to exploit...they've been trying to sell London as a home for a new franchise.

Someone in their corporate office saw Oakland as a team they could "re-market/image"....face it, they have been terrible for 15 years and that does none of the collective 32 owners any good. That is a lot of hidden money waiting to be made...they finally have a young QB, they can sell, who isn't awful.

They are essentially taking a page from Hollywood....where they spend a disproportionate amount of the films budget on marketing. They know their film is bad...but if they can get enough people to buy the fake internet testimonials/hype, they can get them out to see it.

Oakland is still the 7-9 roster from 2 seasons ago, just with manufactured fluff and hype...nothing has changed, only a public perception that has been deliberately crafted..

To show how gullible the unwashed masses are... Del Rio is second in line for Coach of the Year in Vegas betting odds @ 9/1. He's only behind Belichick...****ing DEL RIO. They are also the leading all bets on winning the SB.

This is a team that hasn't defeated a legit contender...ever...in the Carr era. Dumb people will buy anything...thats why the shopping channel exists.

I guess this what the NFL was destined to become...a bad Hollywood movie. Predictable script and terrible acting...

Kinda covering yer ass eh?

If the Raiders do well, it's because the Refs want them to win even tho they still remain the most penalized team in the NFL

If they dont win, you'll say it's because they suck

[cmdrzman]

When Houston is fully healthy only Von Miller is in the same class as a pass rusher.

I expect him to have a huge year this season.

LOL

Houstons not even in the same amosphere as Mack you confused short man with moustache

[BlackOp]

LOL

Houstons not even in the same amosphere as Mack you confused short man with moustache

Dumb Raiders fan is dumb.....

And I just patented the name "Junk Del Rio"...when your fans start using it..I'm collecting royalties.

[BlackOp]

Kinda covering yer ass eh?

If the Raiders do well, it's because the Refs want them to win even tho they still remain the most penalized team in the NFL

If they dont win, you'll say it's because they suck

Raiders dont entirely suck...they are just an average roster with a handful of good players...and average coaching.

For the NFL to act like they are 2nd best team in the AFC is a joke...even your level-headed fans know it.

There is not one player/position on your defense that is better than KC...Houston is better than Mack when healthy.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Neg Rep for poor English.

And being a Raider fan.

That is what I get for posting before I am fully awake.

[cmdrzman]

Raiders dont entirely suck...they are just an average roster with a handful of good players...and average coaching.

For the NFL to act like they are 2nd best team in the AFC is a joke...even your level-headed fans know it.

There is not one player/position on your defense that is better than KC...Houston is better than Mack when healthy.

Now you're just being dumb

That Raider OL is arguably the best OL in the NFL- they have 3 pro bowl OL on that line- 2 pro bowl calibre WR's in Cooper and Crabtree- a pro bowl calibre RB in Marshawn Lynch and a franchise MVP pro bowl QB in Derek Carr

The only pro bowl calibre offensive player the Chiefs have in Travis Kelce- thats it.. there's not one other ...

Chiefs have a couple better players in their secondary but the Raiders have arguably the best defensive player in the NFL

If the Raiders roster is avg, then the Chiefs roster is that of high school level-

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Houston is better than Mack you dumb fuck

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Not one player on your defense would start in KC

[BlackOp]

Now you're just being dumb

That Raider OL is arguably the best OL in the NFL- they have 3 pro bowl OL on that line- 2 pro bowl calibre WR's in Cooper and Crabtree- a pro bowl calibre RB in Marshawn Lynch and a franchise MVP pro bowl QB in Derek Carr

The only pro bowl calibre offensive player the Chiefs have in Travis Kelce- thats it.. there's not one other ...

Chiefs have a couple better players in their secondary but the Raiders have arguably the best defensive player in the NFL

If the Raiders roster is avg, then the Chiefs roster is that of high school level-

and I thought Knowshow was a homer...KC had 4 2016 1st team All-Pro players...Raiders had 2. Osemele was purchased from the Ravens...Chiefs are all home grown.

Mitchell Schwartz was 2nd team all pro...

I figure you dont understand what the difference between all-pro and probowl is...

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000770549

Did you just try to sell me on 31 year old Marshawn Lynch?...you'll be lucky if he gets 600 yards. He averaged 3.7 ypc two seasons ago...quit acting like he is the same player he was 4 years ago.

[cmdrzman]

Not one player on your defense would start in KC

LOL

This is why condoms are very important people-

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You guys called him no sack Mack for quite some time ROFL

[jjchieffan]

and I thought Knowshow was a homer...KC had 4 2016 1st team All-Pro players...Raiders had 2. Osemele was purchased from the Ravens...Chiefs are all home grown.

Mitchell Schwartz was 2nd team all pro...

I figure you dont understand what the difference between all-pro and probowl is...

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000770549

Did you just try to sell me on 31 year old Marshawn Lynch?...you'll be lucky if he gets 600 yards. He averaged 3.7 ypc two seasons ago...quit acting like he is the same player he was 4 years ago.

That's what I was thinking as I read that. Holy cow this guy is a huge homer. He is the Faiders KnowShit.

[NJChiefsFan]

You guys called him no sack Mack for quite some time ROFL

You wouldn't take him?

[BlackOp]

You wouldn't take him?

Over the 22 sack version of a healthy Houston...no. I would at his salary though...but that's about to change.

[jjchieffan]

Over the 22 sack version of a healthy Houston...no. I would at his salary though...but that's about to change.

I don't think he asked if you would take him over a healthy Houston. He just asked if you would take him, so don't be adding qualifiers to change the question. I say absolutely yes. You can never have too many pass rushers

[BlackOp]

I don't think he asked if you would take him over a healthy Houston. He just asked if you would take him, so don't be adding qualifiers to change the question. I say absolutely yes. You can never have too many pass rushers

That question doesn't even need to be asked...every team would take Mack if they could, just like Miller and Houston.

[NJChiefsFan]

Over the 22 sack version of a healthy Houston...no. I would at his salary though...but that's about to change.

He said nobody on the Raiders would start for us. I would think Houston/Mack would be a combo people would sign up for.

[BlackOp]

Congrats on that defense looking like hot garbage against the worst QB in the league...best team in the AFCW, my ass...

The refs have their work cut out for them....#FakeHype

[BlackOp]

Raider fans are having a melt-down. They want to sign Revis....and Norton fired. They think it might be a historically terrible defense...

Funny thing is NFL.com has gone silent...there are no reports about how awful their defense has looked. They posted a highlight of Lynch...who only was in for 2 plays. They arent even attempting to be objective...not that they ever have been. Every one of their pundits has been pimping them...now they cant say shit without looking like total hacks..

It must suck to have been told all off-season how great your "championship-level" team is...only to realize you've been lied to.

A recent poll, amongst their fans, suddenly shifted from 12-4 to 9-7 after they actually started playing...which is more consistent with the data.

[BlackOp]

Here's more evidence of the Agenda...

In the NFL's "what we learned" article, there is little mention how terrible Oakland's defense looked on Saturday...or that their fans actually booed them. Want to see how spin is used to sway public perception...this is an great example.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000831830/article/what-we-learned-from-titans-victory-over-panthers

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

So is BlackOp the resident conspiracy theorist?

[BlackOp]

So is BlackOp the resident conspiracy theorist?

Raiders being over-hyped isn't a conspiracy....its a fact.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Raiders being over-hyped isn't a conspiracy....its a fact.

No one is disputing that. Heck, I wish the hype would die down. But you are insulating that the refs are going to carry the Raiders when in reality, the Raiders are usually near the top for penalties.

[BlackOp]

Not surprised this thread went silent after the BayTurds fans watched their defense not quite meet the off-season AFC championship hype...

Speaking of hype/rigged outcomes...here's a nice article for you. Now people can see why the NFL media jumped on trumping up a 7-9 team in 2015..

Follow the money...always.

The Raiders Robbed Las Vegas In America's Worst Stadium Deal

http://deadspin.com/the-raiders-robbed-las-vegas-in-americas-worst-stadium-1795475973

[BlackOp]

Why Your Team Sucks 2017: Oakland(ish) Raiders

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-oakland-ish-raiders-1798425358

[notorious]

I thought it was seriously going to suck when I see scumbag Raider fans in the casinos.

All they can afford is Circus Circus and the 5.95 TBone steak houses, so maybe it won't be so bad.

[DanT]

I've been a Chiefs fan all my life, for the same reason that I've been a Royals fan, because I'm from Kansas City and I value loyalty. The last time the Chiefs won the AFL/AFC, I was 4 years old. The Raiders have won 4 conference titles since then, when I was 11, 15, 18 and 37 years old. The week before I turned 16, the Raiders came into Arrowhead and beat the Chiefs on a late 4th-quarter TD, 21-16, while 26,307 fans were in attendance. That was Marv Levy's 4th-from-last game with the Chiefs. After Marv Levy left the Chiefs, he won 4 AFC championships with the Bills. Although the Chiefs haven't won a conference title in close to 50 years, there have been highlights for being a Chiefs fan. Indeed, during the 14 seasons that the Chiefs didn't make the playoffs, from 1972 through 1985, and during the two 22-year droughts in between Chiefs playoff victories, from 1969 to 1991 and again from 1993 to 2015, we Chiefs fans could at least take solace in the fact that every once in a while, we might potentially either give the Raiders a close game, actually beat them, or have home field advantage locked up through the playoffs, which we were always savvy enough to conserve by only using one game per opportunity. Sure, that might not seem like much compared to actual Super Bowl Appearances, but that's only if you're being objective. Besides, the AFC championship trophy is named for our founder. Go Chiefs!

[Eureka]

A 12-4 team is just lucky in today's NFL/CP

The Raiders broke the penalty record in the Bucs game yet the refs were helping them��

[BlackOp]

A 12-4 team is just lucky in today's NFL/CP

The Raiders broke the penalty record in the Bucs game yet the refs were helping them��

I'm reposting from #144....

Raiders net points of +31 is the lowest total, for a 12-4 team, in NFL history. The late, one-sided, officiating made this glaring anomaly of a stat possible....it's never been done before. You have to barely win every close game just to pull it off..

The margin of victory was 2 1/2 points...

You were the luckiest 12-4 team in NFL history....but hey, at least the NFL ripped off Vegas's schools, tax payers and community services for the next 30 years...and conned Oakland out of their team in the process. Nothing like billionaires screwing over the public...then tricking them into loving it.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

I'm reposting from #144....

Raiders net points of +31 is the lowest total, for a 12-4 team, in NFL history. The late, one-sided, officiating made this glaring anomaly of a stat possible....it's never been done before. You have to barely win every close game just to pull it off..

The margin of victory was 2 1/2 points...

You were the luckiest 12-4 team in NFL history....but hey, at least the NFL ripped off Vegas's schools, tax payers and community services for the next 30 years...and conned Oakland out of their team in the process. Nothing like billionaires screwing over the public...then tricking them into loving it.

You're in a safe space now, BlackOp. Go on. Show us on the doll where the Raiders hurt you.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Well, he is right. You were GIFTED 4 victories. They weren't even trying to hide it. Weird how a sudden move to Vegas causes magical late game calls.

[BlackOp]

You're in a safe space now, BlackOp. Go on. Show us on the doll where the Raiders hurt you.

The Raiders haven't hurt me...the billionaire class is hurting everyone. When funding for schools drops and teachers lose their jobs...all so they city of Vegas can meet their financial commitments (debt) and have a NFL team...yeah.

Bank of America is laughing.....

[BlackOp]

What's the Vegas over/under on the refs killing Titan's scoring drives? Timely holding calls vs. pass interference? Penalties in the final 4 minutes? Points taken off the board?

I'll be keeping track...

There is no way the NFL let's the Raiders lose the opener to Tennessee...they have a tough late schedule.

[cmdrzman]

You're in a safe space now, BlackOp. Go on. Show us on the doll where the Raiders hurt you.

BlackOp thinks Elvis was abducted by aliens and is still alive-

[cmdrzman]

Well, he is right. You were GIFTED 4 victories. They weren't even trying to hide it. Weird how a sudden move to Vegas causes magical late game calls.

They won those 4 games because Carr drove his team 80 yards and won those games with under 90 seconds left in the game...

Something you as a Chief fan has never experienced a Chief QB ever do- And likely will never see that happen-

That's why Carr was up for MVP last year before he broke his leg-

[BlackOp]

That's why the refs were up for MVP last year before karma broke Carr's leg-

Fixed

[cmdrzman]

Fixed

You're upset... you seem to think that everything that doesn't fit you're liking is fixed... You're like that creepy neighbor next door-

Those 4 Raiders wins that you say were fixed? Not true... they were won because Carr drove his team down the field 80 yards to win those games with seconds left, and if you did your homework or watched the games, you'd know the flags were legit-...

But it's okay- You have Mahomes, the next Favre... Winston, Mariota, Carr, Trubisky etc.. all those young QB's are true stand tall pocket passers-

Mahomes has happy feet- he panics after the first sign of trouble and reverts to his sandlot football days in college- well, that aint gonna work in the NFL-- That dude keeps it up and he'll start gettting drilled out of bounds and be out of the league in 3 years-

He continues that and he'll be the next RGIII

[DanT]

They won those 4 games because Carr drove his team 80 yards and won those games with under 90 seconds left in the game...

Something you as a Chief fan has never experienced a Chief QB ever do- And likely will never see that happen-

That's why Carr was up for MVP last year before he broke his leg-

Chiefs QB Elvic Grbac started a 80-yard drive on his own 20 with 61 seconds left to beat the Raiders 28-27 on Monday Night Football, September 8, 1997. Eleven seconds were on the clock at the start of the game-winning play.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/09/sports/grbac-s-one-minute-drill-rescues-chiefs-from-raiders.html

[New World Order]

You're upset... you seem to think that everything that doesn't fit you're liking is fixed... You're like that creepy neighbor next door-

Those 4 Raiders wins that you say were fixed? Not true... they were won because Carr drove his team down the field 80 yards to win those games with seconds left, and if you did your homework or watched the games, you'd know the flags were legit-...

But it's okay- You have Mahomes, the next Favre... Winston, Mariota, Carr, Trubisky etc.. all those young QB's are true stand tall pocket passers-

Mahomes has happy feet- he panics after the first sign of trouble and reverts to his sandlot football days in college- well, that aint gonna work in the NFL-- That dude keeps it up and he'll start gettting drilled out of bounds and be out of the league in 3 years-

He continues that and he'll be the next RGIII


Mahomes looks light-years ahead of where Derek Carr was in his first preseason.

He looks like a stud.

[DanT]

They won those 4 games because Carr drove his team 80 yards and won those games with under 90 seconds left in the game...

Something you as a Chief fan has never experienced a Chief QB ever do- And likely will never see that happen-

That's why Carr was up for MVP last year before he broke his leg-

From what I can see in the game logs, there was not a single game last year that the Raiders won because Carr drove his team 80 yards to get a game-winning score that happened with under 90 seconds left in the game, let alone 4 such games.

You can find the Raiders 2016 game logs here:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2016.htm

You can find game logs for all of Derek Carr's NFL regular season comeback wins here:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=CarrDe02


When the Raiders beat the Saints, Carr drove the team 75 yards and scored with 0:47 seconds left on the clock.

When the Raiders beat the Ravens, Carr drove the team 66 yards and 2:12 were left on the clock when the TD was registered.

When the Raiders beat the Texans, Carr drove the team 85 yards and 4:43 was on the clock when the Raiders scored.

When the Raiders beat Tampa Bay, Carr drove the team 60 yards to score a game-winning TD in overtime, so although the game clock had 1:45 on it when the score was made, the game ended.

When the Raiders beat the Panthers, Carr drove the team on a 82-yard drive that culminated with a go-ahead FG that happened with 1:45 on the clock.

So, of these 5 games, there were two late 80+ yard game winning drives (Texans & Panthers) and two go-ahead scores that happened with under 90 seconds (Saints and Bucs) remaining in the game, but there were 0 games with an 80+ yard drive culminating in a game-tying or winning score with under 90 seconds on the clock.

Derek Carr's an impressive QB. It's good when a QB can win games late, and he's shown he can do that. It's also good when a team plays well enough not to have to stage late-game comebacks.

[cmdrzman]

Chiefs QB Elvic Grbac started a 80-yard drive on his own 20 with 61 seconds left to beat the Raiders 28-27 on Monday Night Football, September 8, 1997. Eleven seconds were on the clock at the start of the game-winning play.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/09/sports/grbac-s-one-minute-drill-rescues-chiefs-from-raiders.html

Thats just terrific sunshine.. has nothing to do with what were talking.. So "you" were that kid in class that always asks the stupid questions-

[cmdrzman]

From what I can see in the game logs, there was not a single game last year that the Raiders won because Carr drove his team 80 yards to get a game-winning score that happened with under 90 seconds left in the game, let alone 4 such games.

You can find the Raiders 2016 game logs here:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2016.htm

You can find game logs for all of Derek Carr's NFL regular season comeback wins here:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=CarrDe02


When the Raiders beat the Saints, Carr drove the team 75 yards and scored with 0:47 seconds left on the clock.

When the Raiders beat the Ravens, Carr drove the team 66 yards and 2:12 were left on the clock when the TD was registered.

When the Raiders beat the Texans, Carr drove the team 85 yards and 4:43 was on the clock when the Raiders scored.

When the Raiders beat Tampa Bay, Carr drove the team 60 yards to score a game-winning TD in overtime, so although the game clock had 1:45 on it when the score was made, the game ended.

When the Raiders beat the Panthers, Carr drove the team on a 82-yard drive that culminated with a go-ahead FG that happened with 1:45 on the clock.

So, of these 5 games, there were two late 80+ yard game winning drives (Texans & Panthers) and two go-ahead scores that happened with under 90 seconds (Saints and Bucs) remaining in the game, but there were 0 games with an 80+ yard drive culminating in a game-tying or winning score with under 90 seconds on the clock.

Derek Carr's an impressive QB. It's good when a QB can win games late, and he's shown he can do that. It's also good when a team plays well enough not to have to stage late-game comebacks.

Did your parents have any children that lived?

[DanT]

Thats just terrific sunshine.. has nothing to do with what were talking.. So "you" were that kid in class that always asks the stupid questions-

Here's what you said in the post where I quoted you:
They won those 4 games because Carr drove his team 80 yards and won those games with under 90 seconds left in the game...

Something you as a Chief fan has never experienced a Chief QB ever do- And likely will never see that happen-

That's why Carr was up for MVP last year before he broke his leg-

In other words, you made a claim that the Chiefs have never experienced a Chiefs QB winning a game where [the QB] drove the team 80 yards and won the game with under 90 seconds left in the game. I provided you a counterexample that showed that your claim was wrong. In a later post, I also showed you that there were, in fact, zero games last year in which Carr won a game by driving his team 80 yards to win with under 90 seconds left in the game.

So I directly addressed what you were talking about and showed that you were mistaken about the claims you were making.

[DanT]

Did your parents have any children that lived?

Yes. Three. I don't think they had any that did not live, but I'm not positive about that.

Seems like a strange question to ask someone on a football fans bulletin board. Are you OK?

Think about it. Had my parents had only children that had not survived, there would have been no way I could have posted something under my name.

Had my parents had some children that had survived and some that had not survived, then why would that be something that you should want to know about? I would imagine that could be very sad for the siblings of the deceased child or children and, if not for them, then at least their parents, assuming one or both are still alive.

Had my parents had only children that survived, then what would that have to do with whether a Raiders fan or a fan of any other football team is making accurate claims? I shouldn't think that one would have much at all to do with the other.

[BlackOp]

Did your parents have any children that lived?

Do you have any comebacks that arent borrowed?

Keeping track of when and where 'timely" calls against the Titans affect the outcome...Holds/PI.

How many points get taken off the board in this one?

[BlackOp]

Nice...I wish KC could hit someone full speed...3 yards out of bound and have the refs call the other team for a foul.

[BlackOp]

Oh gee...4th qtr and the refs ignore Crabtree grabbing the defenders facemask.

Seen this shitshow before...

[ClevelandBronco]

This Raiders team is fun to watch. They're looking very complete. It'll be interesting to see whether that idiot Del Rio figures out a way to screw up his very talented team.

[LaDexter]

I've heard this phrase before

"Raider Football"

What is Raider Football?

[KChiefs1]

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Raiders have been like the red-headed, deformed step-child that you keep locked in a cage, under the stairs. You let him out twice a year on Sunday for a few drunken laughs with friends...then stuff him back where he belongs.

Since the NFL seems hell-bent on pretending this team is legit after a 15 year absence...A dedicated repository is needed for all things negative about this ass-boil of a team.

Donks seem destined for AFCW purgatory for the next half decade...so they dont really count anymore.

Fuck the Raiders....

Yeah, great thread( as usual ), but I'm really going to need to know where the NFL Illuminati stand on this before I cast a hate.

Thanks!

[BlackOp]

Yeah, great thread( as usual )
Thanks!

So now you're a Raiders fan too...since Smith is looking good, you are just looking for a new outlet for your poison. Root for the Raiders...I dont give a shit.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

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Should be 6-0

We only lost that 1 game thanks to a phantom PI call and being forced to play on a TNF game on the road in absolutely crap monsoon-like conditions.

[Easy Street]

Nice. An entire thread of dumb ass biased chiefs fans being dumb asses. I see an entire thread of retarded excuses or conspiracy theories that don't line up with your red and white colored glasses. Must be a whole lot of good drugs out there in that trash dump of a city you got.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Nice. An entire thread of dumb ass biased chiefs fans being dumb asses.

What's the name of the site again, please?

[BlackOp]

Nice. An entire thread of dumb ass biased chiefs fans being dumb asses. I see an entire thread of retarded excuses or conspiracy theories that don't line up with your red and white colored glasses. Must be a whole lot of good drugs out there in that trash dump of a city you got.

They let you post from prison?

[cmdrzman]

.Mr. Skittles is a marketing gimmick. He was terrible in his last year in Seattle. He looks like an over-weight, suburban housewife now......

Whoopsie

[LaDexter]

I proudly smoked marijuana in the bleachers of Oakland Memorial Coliseum...

Have you????

[BlackOp]

Whoopsie

Ha...Lynch averaged 1/10th of a yard per carry more than Murray. 18 for 76...ROFL. So for every 10 carries Lynch has..he'll gain one total yard more. The only problem other than he's not an improvement is he's 31.

Good luck getting 12 TDs out him...Faid should have kept what they had.

Beastmode is just a brand at this point...

[Reerun_KC]

They let you post from prison?



Nice rehashed come back. Way to be original.


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[BlackOp]

Nice rehashed come back. Way to be original.


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Impressive that you can suck Raider dick and type at the same time...must be a natural. You could get a job at ESPN with that skill-set.

[Eureka]

Ha...Lynch averaged 1/10th of a yard per carry more than Murray. 18 for 76...ROFL. So for every 10 carries Lynch has..he'll gain one total yard more. The only problem other than he's not an improvement is he's 31.

Good luck getting 12 TDs out him...Faid should have kept what they had.

Beastmode is just a brand at this point...

Most talking heads don't agree with you. He gained some pretty tough yards.

[BlackOp]

Most talking heads don't agree with you. He gained some pretty tough yards.

Raiders are still a mildly above average team (9-7)...doesn't matter what the Vegas paid puppet-heads say on the networks they control.

I was actually surprised they didnt just hand them the #1 spot in the power-rankings...

[Reerun_KC]

Impressive that you can suck Raider dick and type at the same time...must be a natural. You could get a job at ESPN with that skill-set.



You like cheesecake?


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[cmdrzman]

Ha...Lynch averaged 1/10th of a yard per carry more than Murray. 18 for 76...ROFL. So for every 10 carries Lynch has..he'll gain one total yard more. The only problem other than he's not an improvement is he's 31.

Good luck getting 12 TDs out him...Faid should have kept what they had.

Beastmode is just a brand at this point...


Bitter... party of one

[BlackOp]

Bitter... party of one

Bitter?...KC has beaten them 4 times in a row. I'm more pissed about the NFL deliberately trying to manufacture a playoff team...the hype has been non-stop since they were 7-9. It cheapens teams that are actually good...

[Hammock Parties]

Ha...Lynch averaged 1/10th of a yard per carry more than Murray. 18 for 76...ROFL.

You're not considering the opponent at all.

Last year Murray had 37 yards rushing against Tennessee because he's not a guy who gains a lot of yards after contact.

If you watched that game...which you didn't...you would have seen Lynch gaining a ton of yards after contact. Against a very good run defense. An elite run defense.

Lynch is back. I bet he winds up averaging around 4.5 YPC and gaining a shit ton of YAC.

[BlackOp]

Damn..Lynch is starring in TWO reality shows this year...

Marshawn Lynch to star in reality show and Facebook is paying millions for it

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/marshawn-lynch-to-star-in-reality-show-and-facebook-is-paying-millions-for-it/

[BlackOp]

You're not considering the opponent at all.

Last year Murray had 37 yards rushing against Tennessee because he's not a guy who gains a lot of yards after contact.

If you watched that game...which you didn't...you would have seen Lynch gaining a ton of yards after contact. Against a very good run defense. An elite run defense.

Lynch is back. I bet he winds up averaging around 4.5 YPC and gaining a shit ton of YAC.

I glad you think that...because you have proven to be wrong about literally everything pertaining to football.

How did Geno look this weekend? Real shame Chiefs GM didn't listen to your expert advice about how to use that #1 over-all pick.

[cmdrzman]

Bitter?...KC has beaten them 4 times in a row. I'm more pissed about the NFL deliberately trying to manufacture a playoff team...the hype has been non-stop since they were 7-9. It cheapens teams that are actually good...

You keep bringing them up- that's usually a sign of concern- There will be no more torrential down pour or a broken finger this time around sweet tits...

This Raiders offense is the most explosive offense in the NFL. The addition of Jared Cook and Beastmode has already taken a potent offense to one thats almost unstoppable. You will know this to be true here soon enough.

Patterson is the best return man in the NFL- He'll be setting up the Raiders in good field position all year.

And that Raiders defense held the Cowboys in check and shut down the best rushing team in the NFL last year on sunday-

Remember a couple weeks back I told you that you will soon know whom Eddie Vanderdoes is? You better go youtube him because hes ragdolling pro bowl OL.. He did it to Zach Martin from the Cowboys and absolutley destroyed the Titans OL-

If you think the Chiefs are just gonna come in and roll Oakland you're sadly mistaken... It aint gonna be easy and you best pack a lunch.. it's gonna be a long day-

Watch this first play.. this is a pro bowl OL

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZrv3hpNnhg

[BlackOp]

This Raiders offense is the most explosive offense in the NFL.

Like 23 points explosive? The NFL is on notice....

I'll say it again... Carr had never beaten a team that finished higher than 9-7 in his CAREER that didn't have Osweiler at QB. I'll challenge any Faider fan to name one Raccoon Jesus trademark victory.

[New World Order]

You keep bringing them up- that's usually a sign of concern- There will be no more torrential down pour or a broken finger this time around sweet tits...

This Raiders offense is the most explosive offense in the NFL. The addition of Jared Cook and Beastmode has already taken a potent offense to one thats almost unstoppable. You will know this to be true here soon enough.

Patterson is the best return man in the NFL- He'll be setting up the Raiders in good field position all year.

And that Raiders defense held the Cowboys in check and shut down the best rushing team in the NFL last year on sunday-

Remember a couple weeks back I told you that you will soon know whom Eddie Vanderdoes is? You better go youtube him because hes ragdolling pro bowl OL.. He did it to Zach Martin from the Cowboys and absolutley destroyed the Titans OL-

If you think the Chiefs are just gonna come in and roll Oakland you're sadly mistaken... It aint gonna be easy and you best pack a lunch.. it's gonna be a long day-

Watch this first play.. this is a pro bowl OL

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZrv3hpNnhg


LMAO

Carr folds when teams get pressure.

[cmdrzman]

Like 23 points explosive? The NFL is on notice....

I'll say it again... Carr had never beaten a team that finished higher than 9-7 in his CAREER that didn't have Osweiler at QB. I'll challenge any Faider fan to name one Raccoon Jesus trademark victory.

You bitter little man.. Way to pick and choose an argument that will favor your bitterness and support your conspiracy theories....The Raiders only played 2 teams last year that won 10 or more games...

That will all change this year.. and one of those wins will come at the expense of the Chiefs.. if not two...Thats even if the Chiefs win 10 games-

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Why does an idiot who believes that games are maneuvered and orchestrated give two flying shits about talking smack to an opponent?

[jdubya]

Carr is a great QB and the Raiders offense should be consistantly good. Its the Raider defense that will likely hold them back. Also, KC will always be considered Carr`s kryptonite until proven otherwise....

[stumppy]

You keep bringing them up- that's usually a sign of concern- There will be no more torrential down pour or a broken finger this time around sweet tits...

This Raiders offense is the most explosive offense in the NFL. The addition of Jared Cook and Beastmode has already taken a potent offense to one thats almost unstoppable. You will know this to be true here soon enough.

Patterson is the best return man in the NFL- He'll be setting up the Raiders in good field position all year.

And that Raiders defense held the Cowboys in check and shut down the best rushing team in the NFL last year on sunday-

Remember a couple weeks back I told you that you will soon know whom Eddie Vanderdoes is? You better go youtube him because hes ragdolling pro bowl OL.. He did it to Zach Martin from the Cowboys and absolutley destroyed the Titans OL-

If you think the Chiefs are just gonna come in and roll Oakland you're sadly mistaken... It aint gonna be easy and you best pack a lunch.. it's gonna be a long day-

Watch this first play.. this is a pro bowl OL

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZrv3hpNnhg


:hmmm:

You're probably right.

[PunkinDrublic]

You bitter little man.. Way to pick and choose an argument that will favor your bitterness and support your conspiracy theories....The Raiders only played 2 teams last year that won 10 or more games...

That will all change this year.. and one of those wins will come at the expense of the Chiefs.. if not two...Thats even if the Chiefs win 10 games-

Del Rio is still Andy Reid's bitch. As long as you have Del Rio and that garbage secondary, the Chiefs will continue to beat Chokeland. All your weak ass trolling won't change that.

[BlackOp]

Why does an idiot who believes that games are maneuvered and orchestrated give two flying shits about talking smack to an opponent?

It one of the remnants of my youth programming...I dont give two shits...that's what makes it more fun.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

You bitter little man.. Way to pick and choose an argument that will favor your bitterness and support your conspiracy theories....The Raiders only played 2 teams last year that won 10 or more games...

That will all change this year.. and one of those wins will come at the expense of the Chiefs.. if not two...Thats even if the Chiefs win 10 games-


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[BlackOp]

And that Raiders defense held the Cowboys in check and shut down the best rushing team in the NFL last year on sunday-



So you use a preseason game to justify an argument? ROFL

[BlackOp]

The Raiders only played 2 teams last year that won 10 or more games...


And lost all three...2015, the best team they beat was the 5-11 Ravens unless you count the Geno Smith-led Jets.

Face it...Raiders have never beaten anyone worth a shit in the Carr era. You own Brock Osweiler though...

It's always been media hype...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It one of the remnants of my youth programming...I dont give two shits...that's what makes it more fun.


The Stupid comes natural to you, don't it son?

[BlackOp]

The Stupid comes natural to you, don't it son?

Shouldn't you be out robbing someone for meth money?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Shouldn't you be out robbing someone for meth money?

Suppliers don't have to rob.

[jjchieffan]

Somewhere in here cmdrzman told us that this Raiders team wasn't like last year's team. I guess he was right. Last year's team was just bad on defense. This year's team appears to be bad on offense as well. Unless they're playing the Jets.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Faid are terrible and Lynch is done

[jjchieffan]

You're drunk- Raiders are mad deep at RB- in fact they might have the best depth at RB in the entire league- they had 2 rookie RB's that both popped off damn near 6 yards a carry in Richard and Washington last year- they also drafted Elijah Hood that is tearing ass in TC.. The Raiders are 4 deep at RB- Not to mention they also have one of the best FB's in the NFL.. Don't kid yourself if you think Oaklands depth at RB is an issue-



You're actually bagging on the Raiders WR's when the Chiefs basically have nobody??.. in fact, the Chiefs WR depth might be the worst in the NFL.. okay, we get the Hill fluff- but you're talking about depth? seriously? Oaklands got Cooper, Crabtree 2 1,000 yard WR's, along with Seth Roberts, Cordelle Patterson etc... You could honestly go around the country and poll 2,000 NFL fans and you might get 2 of them that could name any WR on the Chiefs- and those two live in KC-



You'd be wise to hold that tongue of yours- This aint the same Raiders defense you saw last year.. You'll know this to be true here in the next couple months

It's Raider week. 6 games have been played by both of our teams. Cumdrinker was so bold before the season started. Where is he now? He needs to own up to this post and admit he was wrong.

[BlackOp]

They arent winning 5 games in the last 2 minutes this season...if either WR gets injured, they'll miss the play-offs. They'll probably miss them anyways. Middle of the road roster that were the positive beneficiaries in every close game. That isn't sustainable against the 4th toughest schedule this season.

Their coaches arent top-level...and that will be exposed this year, like it was in final game against Denver. That team came out flat and uninspired...just like they did against KC.

The NFL keeps hyping them as a SB contender...but when you break it down, they are a slightly above average team that hasn't defeated any of the better teams in the past 2 years. 2-9 against play-off bound opponents.

Thems the facts....Signing a 31 year old Lynch doesn't make them better than last year. Miller had 800 yards and 12 TDs...they can only wish Mr. Skittles matches those numbers....which he wont. He's just a name-brand at this point.

I'm a prophet....

[In58men]

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ROFL


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[scho63]

Did we expect anything less? :rolleyes:

[Rausch]

Did we expect anything less? :rolleyes:

I expect Gruden to suck arse for 2 years and then catch up.

This year? No...