Smith is the best QB on the roster right now

[Titty Meat]

If Smith goes down this year the team is fucked. He's clearly the best QB on the roster right now.

[Rasputin]

:rolleyes:


He should be the best as he is the starting quarterback. Mahomes is a rookie and is learning but will sooner or later get to the point he can take over. Alex just has to stay healthy as long as he can.




We'll be fine.

[Easy 6]

Needless pessimism

[notorious]

Water is wet. Women have secrets.


Who gives a fuck?

[penbrook]

You just know it's a matter of time before Smith misses a game due to injury and Mahommy pulls a Dakota

[Don Corlemahomes]

Your brief opinion is so worthy of a thread.

[Titty Meat]

Your brief opinion is so worthy of a thread.

Your faggot ass never posts on here anymore and we should all be thankful for that

[OldSchool]

Yes, it's obvious.

[DRM08]

He also has starting OL and starting skill position players surrounding him. How would he do with 3rd stringers? You should be more concerned about the OL than QB.

[Bowser]

Just because you didn't get laid after the Green Day concert last night doesn't mean you needed to start a shitpost thread and take it out on the rest of us.

[thegame214]

Well I would hope you would be after spending FIVE YEARS with the same coach lol What's also clear is Alex is gone next year as well, so really Two years of Mahomes is better than 5 years of Alexis.

[Molitoth]

Scooter Libby is not the best CP poster right now

[Halfcan]

The stats from the first game do not support your theory.

[penbrook]

The game last night showed that Smitty is the best QB

[jspchief]

Of course he is

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[OnTheWarpath15]

Well fuck. I would hope that a 12 year vet is the best QB on the roster right now.

He's the only one that has taken a snap in a regular season NFL game.

[wazu]

Mahomes is better.

[JakeF]

He is the best but the separation between Smith and Mahomes isn't nearly as wide as i expected it to be.

[JakeF]

Mahomes is better.
Not yet.

[RealSNR]

This has been said every fucking year since we traded for him. Even with Daniel and Foles.

Do you think Packer fans were confident in the team when Graham Harrell was the primary backup?

The Steelers with Landry Jones?

Yeah, those guys look fine NOW, but there was a time when they were both unproven first-time starters forced into duty because of an injury to the starting QB in the early days of their respective careers.

Just cool it with the "THIS TEAM IS SOOOOO FUCKED!!" shit. We're in trouble if Fisher goes down, too. We're in trouble if Hill goes down. Or if Peters goes down. DJ again. Houston/Ford. Even if Spencer Ware goes down. Schwartz.

That's football. There's 22 starting spots for every team and 32 teams out there. You're rarely going to find a team that can sustain injuries at any position and the guy who replaces him is good enough for the team to not skip a beat at all.

[bigjosh]

Alex smiths game last night.

Long pass to hill down the right sideline NICE

Screen to hill, low pass hill drops MEH they both need partial blame

Screen to sherman for 5 yards good placement.

10 yard run under pressure good/ penalty adds 15 yards to the run

Checkdown to ware for about 6 yds more of the same

Bad placement pass in endzone to harris could have been picked, bounced off DBs hands

Checkdown to ware for about 7 yards first down more of the same

Ware runs it in from the two


Smith didnt really do anything impressive. He did what we have all come to expect from him minus that bomb down the sideline. that was a nice pass though.

[Sandy Vagina]

Water is wet. Women have secrets.


Who gives a ****?

Love it. Joe Hollenbeck stamp of approval. :clap:

[HemiEd]

Shocking, shocking I tell ya. I am so glad I pulled this thread up to learn this, thanks so much.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Cuck Tales

[penbrook]

Alex smiths game last night.

Long pass to hill down the right sideline NICE

Screen to hill, low pass hill drops MEH they both need partial blame

Screen to sherman for 5 yards good placement.

10 yard run under pressure good/ penalty adds 15 yards to the run

Checkdown to ware for about 6 yds more of the same

Bad placement pass in endzone to harris could have been picked, bounced off DBs hands

Checkdown to ware for about 7 yards first down more of the same

Ware runs it in from the two


Smith didnt really do anything impressive. He did what we have all come to expect from him minus that bomb down the sideline. that was a nice pass though.

Indeed that pass was. We've been hearing about the Smitty Hill connection through training camp and it showed

[Rasputin]

Indeed that pass was. We've been hearing about the Smitty Hill connection through training camp and it showed

Patrick has been doing it in camp as well.


So it's not like Alex is the only one capable of making throws to Tyreek but I bet by next year it's its going rival the greatest show on turf. Ok maybe not next year but years to come Patrick to Tyreek will be a phenomenal force to recon with.

[rico]

I've gotten to the point where I cringe when I hear or read his name.

[penbrook]

Patrick has been doing it in camp as well.


So it's not like Alex is the only one capable of making throws to Tyreek but I bet by next year it's its going rival the greatest show on turf. Ok maybe not next year but years to come Patrick to Tyreek will be a phenomenal force to recon with.

Conley impressed me last night surprisingly

[Rasputin]

Conley impressed me last night surprisingly

He should. I think he is catching on getting time with the first also helps him.


He is going benefit from Tyreek streak down field with intermediate throws. Teams will always have to account for Tyreek can't leave him alone on an island.

[penbrook]

He should. I think he is catching on getting time with the first also helps him.


He is going benefit from Tyreek streak down field with intermediate throws. Teams will always have to account for Tyreek can't leave him alone on an island.

If that td pass wasn't called back he would of finished with 3 catches for 139 yards

[penbrook]

BJ Kissel @ChiefsReporter
#Chiefs coach Andy Reid specifically mentioned Rakeem Nunez-Roches as a guy who stood out after watching the film from last night.

[penbrook]

BJ Kissel @ChiefsReporter
"With the exception of one snap, I thought LG (Bryan) Witzmann played well."

~ Andy Reid.

[penbrook]

BJ Kissel @ChiefsReporter
Reid also mentioned rookie Tanoh Kpassagnon (6'7", 289lbs) & fact that he played three different spots last night (rush end, OLB, and DT).

[Ming the Merciless]

Wood will burn if it gets too hot

[JakeF]

BJ Kissel @ChiefsReporter
Reid also mentioned rookie Tanoh Kpassagnon (6'7", 289lbs) & fact that he played three different spots last night (rush end, OLB, and DT).It's dumb to play a rookie at that many positions this early on. At most he should have played DT and Rush end. I would have preferred they just put him at rush end and leave him there until he learns it.

[penbrook]

Looks like we found a star in Nunez Roaches though

[JakeF]

Patrick has been doing it in camp as well.


So it's not like Alex is the only one capable of making throws to Tyreek but I bet by next year it's its going rival the greatest show on turf. Ok maybe not next year but years to come Patrick to Tyreek will be a phenomenal force to recon with.Nobody said Alex was the only one who could throw to Tyreek. :rolleyes:

[Rasputin]

If that td pass wasn't called back he would of finished with 3 catches for 139 yards

I thought Conley and Albert Wilson were doing good at camp when I was there so I think they both can make plays that will make us be excited for.

[penbrook]

I thought Conley and Albert Wilson were doing good at camp when I was there so I think they both can make plays that will make us be excited for.

Wilson literally had no impact this game

[Sandy Vagina]

Wilson literally had no impact this game

It was interesting that Alex spoke of Albert during the game interview. He sure didn't have to mention him by name. Maybe Wilson really is showing some promise, and I am far from a fan of his. He would be lower on the depth chart anyway.

[rico]

It was interesting that Alex spoke of Albert during the game interview. He sure didn't have to mention him by name. Maybe Wilson really is showing some promise, and I am far from a fan of his. He would be lower on the depth chart anyway.

Well ya know, since Alex likes him...I suppose that means that you probably should start liking him as well, right?!?

[Fish]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a8/a8232f546b58c8867d0b7440e7c6139da343c31abdab69aac90c381e0f1a4232.jpg

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you meant, "fucked" at getting a chance to go 1 and out per 1-3 standard operating procedure.
My bad.

Can't WAIT for the transition year.
The vaginal leakings of the Regular Season Excellence-crowd are going to be absolutely magnificent.

[Titty Meat]

Well ****. I would hope that a 12 year vet is the best QB on the roster right now.

He's the only one that has taken a snap in a regular season NFL game.

I thought he sucks though? We read that all the time on here.

[wazu]

I thought he sucks though? We read that all the time on here.

He does.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

He does.

ROFL

[jspchief]

I thought he sucks though? We read that all the time on here.Context

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[stevieray]

I've gotten to the point where I cringe when I hear or read his name.

no offense, but that's just pathetic.

[stevieray]

Not yet.

yup

[RobBlake]

Well I would hope you would be after spending FIVE YEARS with the same coach lol What's also clear is Alex is gone next year as well, so really Two years of Mahomes is better than 5 years of Alexis.

Based on what exactly?

[Bugeater]

We're fucked anyway. We're Chiefs fans.

[rico]

no offense, but that's just pathetic.

None taken.

[RobBlake]

Alex smiths game last night.

Long pass to hill down the right sideline NICE

Screen to hill, low pass hill drops MEH they both need partial blame

Screen to sherman for 5 yards good placement.

10 yard run under pressure good/ penalty adds 15 yards to the run

Checkdown to ware for about 6 yds more of the same

Bad placement pass in endzone to harris could have been picked, bounced off DBs hands

Checkdown to ware for about 7 yards first down more of the same

Ware runs it in from the two


Smith didnt really do anything impressive. He did what we have all come to expect from him minus that bomb down the sideline. that was a nice pass though.
How are check downs that net positive yardage bad? Ever watch Brady?

[Pablo]

if alex and pat were trapped in rapidz and u could only save one who r u gonna save????????

[King_Chief_Fan]

Mahomes stats resembles Smith's....:eek::D

[notorious]

I've gotten to the point where I cringe when I hear or read his name.

no offense, but that's just pathetic.

None taken.

I love this place. LMAO

[thegame214]

Based on what exactly?

Based on the fact next years he's due to make what he made in 2014 and 15 COMBINED, as well as seeing Mahomes throw a TD pass that Alex would have thrown out of bounds the moment the play broke down.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Based on the fact next years he's due to make what he made in 2014 and 15 COMBINED, as well as seeing Mahomes throw a TD pass that Alex would have thrown out of bounds the moment the play broke down.

The reality of the situation is a slow-sliding molasses for the risk-averse.

[threebag]

He also has starting OL and starting skill position players surrounding him. How would he do with 3rd stringers? You should be more concerned about the OL than QB.

It's not like the 3's were playing their 1's.

[Deberg_1990]

Smith to Tyreek is gonna be unstoppable this season.

[threebag]

Smith to Tyreek is gonna be unstoppable this season.

It's going to be great everywhere in the universe except chiefsplanet

The thought of it just made sweets shit himself

[BigCatDaddy]

Smith to Tyreek is gonna be unstoppable this season.

I hear they now have a connection. A connection that will now allow Shitty to throw Hill the ball as he runs wide open through the Steelers secondary for a TD. Just takes time to get that connection to make those type of throws.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's going to be great everywhere in the universe except chiefsplanet

The thought of it just made sweets shit himself

The thought of Mahomes to a seasoned Tyreek, coupled with a team that has learned how to consistently win in the playoffs is far more appealing.

Just relax Three; that transition is going to hurt for a minute and you may have to "suffer" seasons with no playoff appearances at all. Those trophies and rings however will more than make up for it, I assure you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I hear they now have a connection. A connection that will now allow Shitty to throw Hill the ball as he runs wide open through the Steelers secondary for a TD. Just takes time to get that connection to make those type of throws.

It's kind of a psychometric thing. Shitty is channeling Reid's magic underwear and transferring that awesome power through the Independence Mo. "Jesus landing pad" over at the LDS church.
Using pioneer era ley lines, Smith then sends the power to the basement of Arrowhead Stadium where it is magnified through 24K gold replicas of Joseph Smith's "magic plates"!

The connection is real!

[BigCatDaddy]

It's kind of a psychometric thing. Shitty is channeling Reid's magic underwear and transferring that awesome power through the Independence Mo. "Jesus landing pad" over at the LDS church.
Using pioneer era ley lines, Smith then sends the power to the basement of Arrowhead Stadium where it is magnified through 24K gold replicas of Joseph Smith's "magic plates"!

The connection is real!

Ok.. That is some funny shit LMAO

I'll ALMOST miss all the comedy gold Shitty has inspired over the years.

[Don Corlemahomes]

Your pillowbitergot ass never posts on here anymore and we should all be thankful for that

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/legacy.images/smosh-pit/4/redhead-15.jpg

This is all I can think of when you get mad. :)

[Fish]

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/legacy.images/smosh-pit/4/redhead-15.jpg

This is all I can think of when you get mad. :)

LMAO....

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Ok.. That is some funny shit LMAO

I'll ALMOST miss all the comedy gold Shitty has inspired over the years.

ALMOST. :)

[Kaepernick]

If Smith goes down this year the team is ****ed. He's clearly the best QB on the roster right now.

11 year veteran QB is better than raw, undeveloped rookie.

News at 11:00. It's a miracle!

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Billay was the first person to buy a Cassel jersey

[bigjosh]

How are check downs that net positive yardage bad? Ever watch Brady?Where did i say bad? It literally says more of the same. As in what we have come to expect.

He played exactly like everyone thought he would. Even leading tyreek out of bounds on his only pass over 5 yards.

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[wazu]

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/legacy.images/smosh-pit/4/redhead-15.jpg

This is all I can think of when you get mad. :)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Simply Red]

Scooter Libby is not the best CP poster right now

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[eDave]

11 year veteran QB is better than raw, undeveloped rookie.

News at 11:00. It's a miracle!

Where the hell have YOU been?!

Hoping all is/was well.

[Mav]

11 year veteran QB is better than raw, undeveloped rookie.



News at 11:00. It's a miracle!



Dude change your name. [emoji23]


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[eDave]

And Mav!

[Nickhead]

right now?

or

right now!

[Titty Meat]

Chiefs planet: Alex Smith sucks! They should have cut him after the playoff game.

Chiefs planet now: I'd hope he's the best he's starting over a rookie and a 4 year guy.

Which is it?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Chiefs planet: Alex Smith sucks! They should have cut him after the playoff game.

Chiefs planet now: I'd hope he's the best he's starting over a rookie and a 4 year guy.

Which is it?

Chiefs lose NOTHING long term starting Mahomes.

You happy now?

#ALLin

[RealSNR]

Chiefs planet: Alex Smith sucks! They should have cut him after the playoff game.

Chiefs planet now: I'd hope he's the best he's starting over a rookie and a 4 year guy.

Which is it?

Who said the Chiefs should cut Smith after the playoff game?

[stevieray]

Mahommes with the #2's this morning at camp.

[Mav]

Chiefs lose NOTHING long term starting Mahomes.

You happy now?

#ALLin



Uh? Starting a qb before he is ready is a huge factor in the success and failure of qbs. Alex Smith started way too early and never became anything more than a game manager. Aaron Rodgers sat and is God. Geno Smith started way before he was ready and now is a fringe nfl player. Nothing wrong with sitting a guy who needs time.


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[Trivers]

Uh? Starting a qb before he is ready is a huge factor in the success and failure of qbs. Alex Smith started way too early and never became anything more than a game manager. Aaron Rodgers sat and is God. Geno Smith started way before he was ready and now is a fringe nfl player. Nothing wrong with sitting a guy who needs time.


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words of wisdom

[Coogs]

Uh? Starting a qb before he is ready is a huge factor in the success and failure of qbs. Alex Smith started way too early and never became anything more than a game manager. Aaron Rodgers sat and is God. Geno Smith started way before he was ready and now is a fringe nfl player. Nothing wrong with sitting a guy who needs time.


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Thing is, we will never know if things would have turned out differently for any of the 3 you mentioned if the situations were reversed. Would Smith be better if he sat? Geno? We will never know. Would AR suck now if he would have played earlier? We will never know.

[Reerun_KC]

Chiefs promote rookie Mahomes to No. 2 QB http://es.pn/2uD65qp
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

[Chiefshrink]

Uh? Starting a qb before he is ready is a huge factor in the success and failure of qbs. Alex Smith started way too early and never became anything more than a game manager. Aaron Rodgers sat and is God. Geno Smith started way before he was ready and now is a fringe nfl player. Nothing wrong with sitting a guy who needs time.


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Most of the time this is true but some rookie QBs can handle the heat in the kitchen but not very often. Wilson did and Dak looks like he has but will know more in a few weeks now that he doesn't have the NO.1 RB for the first 6 games. It was much easier for Dak than Wilson IMHO because the o-line was mediocre at best for Seattle at the time and Dallas has the best in the league.

[penbrook]

Smitty has won 22 out of his last 26 regular season games. I'm pretty sure not even Brady can do that in his last 26 regular season games

[Rasputin]

right now?

or

right now!

no right now.

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[Chiefshrink]

Smitty has won 22 out of his last 26 regular season games. I'm pretty sure not even Brady can do that in his last 26 regular season games

You can have the 22 reg season Smitty wins and I will take the 5 out of 7 SB rings to this point okay ?:shrug:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Shitty's regular season wank-fests mean less than lukewarm piss to me.

[JakeF]

Smith to Tyreek is gonna be unstoppable this season.
Andy Reid will start calling a Wr screen every 3rd play once the regular season starts.

[BoneKrusher]

He also has starting OL and starting skill position players surrounding him. How would he do with 3rd stringers? You should be more concerned about the OL than QB.

This^^^

[BoneKrusher]

Lets put The Rookie in with the first stringers and let Alex have the third stringers and see who looks best.

[Rasputin]

Uh? Starting a qb before he is ready is a huge factor in the success and failure of qbs. Alex Smith started way too early and never became anything more than a game manager. Aaron Rodgers sat and is God. Geno Smith started way before he was ready and now is a fringe nfl player. Nothing wrong with sitting a guy who needs time.


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Dan Marino started his rookie season and had a HOF career. Dan Marino was only maybe a couple months older than Patrick is now and Patrick will be turning 22 next month.

Dan Marino compared Patrick to himself with mobility so really it's any ones guess good or bad how he will respond. I believe Andy Reid has been throwing all kinds of mental aspects and testing him out in practice and he is passing every test thrown at him. So I don't think he will be ruined. I think he can handle being a starter this year just not first few games and ideally after the bye week.

Nobody knows shit until it happens.

[RobBlake]

Marino is an all time talent

[penbrook]

Lets put The Rookie in with the first stringers and let Alex have the third stringers and see who looks best.

Alex still

[RobBlake]

Alex still

Easily lol

[eDave]

"Smith is the best QB on the roster right now"

Yea, no shit Einstein.

[Ming the Merciless]

Smitty has won 22 out of his last 26 regular season games. I'm pretty sure not even Brady can do that in his last 26 regular season games

you have got to be fuckign kidding....

brady has won more fucking games, every season...than any other QB in history

put the fuckign pipe down with 'brady couldnt do that'

moron

2005 ---finished last half of season 7-2)
2006 ---12-4
2007--- 16-0
2008 - 1-0 (injured after)


theres a stretch where brady went 36-6

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm

dude rarely has lost more than 4 games in a season....like seriously 12-4 is a normal brady year...

don't even compare brady to shitty PLEASE

Im not even gonna go into other records/stats because I will blow a fucking gasket

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Marino is an all time talent

He sure is.

So when he says he sees the deal in Mahomes, I believe I'll listen.

[Ming the Merciless]

And actually Brady has won 23 out of his last 28 regular season games

alex is 21-7 during his last 28 reg season games

and in addition he has a SB ring and i think 4 playoff wins vs 1 playoff loss

not to mention MVP and GOAT solidified

[Ming the Merciless]

Smitty has won 22 out of his last 26 regular season games. I'm pretty sure not even Brady can do that in his last 26 regular season games

unless I am counting it wrong, smitty has won 21 out of his last 26 games, not 22

[Kaepernick]

Where the hell have YOU been?!

Hoping all is/was well.

Forget it Jake, it's the preseason. :D

Football is back. Life is good.

[NJChiefsFan]

Chiefs planet: Alex Smith sucks! They should have cut him after the playoff game.

Chiefs planet now: I'd hope he's the best he's starting over a rookie and a 4 year guy.

Which is it?

So you take the extreme opinions of CP and make every poster that doesn't understand the point of your thread have to answer for them. That's a lazy way to try and defend yourself.

A lot of CP thinks Alex should start this year. It isn't contradictory at all to feel that the QB position needs to be upgraded but also think that Alex should clearly be the best QB on the roster at the moment.

[penbrook]

unless I am counting it wrong, smitty has won 21 out of his last 26 games, not 22

Regular season not playoff. And did you really just compare the greates QB ever to Alex smith

[Rasputin]

you have got to be fuckign kidding....

brady has won more fucking games, every season...than any other QB in history

put the fuckign pipe down with 'brady couldnt do that'

moron

2005 ---finished last half of season 7-2)
2006 ---12-4
2007--- 16-0
2008 - 1-0 (injured after)


theres a stretch where brady went 36-6

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm

dude rarely has lost more than 4 games in a season....like seriously 12-4 is a normal brady year...

don't even compare brady to shitty PLEASE

Im not even gonna go into other records/stats because I will blow a fucking gasket

How many of those were blowouts? I don't recall much of Tom Brady having to count on his defense to keep him in games and win with field goals.

[Willie Lanier]

Smitty has won 22 out of his last 26 regular season games. I'm pretty sure not even Brady can do that in his last 26 regular season games

Can we kill this idiotic "smitty" nickname?

It's just dumb and lazy

[penbrook]

Can we kill this idiotic "smitty" nickname?

It's just dumb and lazy

So what should his new nickname be? Captain checkdown has already been used

[Willie Lanier]

And I'm pretty sure he isnt Irish

[Willie Lanier]

So what should his new nickname be? Captain checkdown has already been used

Uh, I don't know, how about epitome of mediocrity... Yeah that has a nice ring to it...

[Ming the Merciless]

Regular season not playoff. And did you really just compare the greates QB ever to Alex smith

I counted correctly, regular season...you counted it wrong

And, no..i wasn't the moron who did that

[penbrook]

I counted correctly, regular season...you counted it wrong

And, no..i wasn't the moron who did that

Let's see here they won the last 10 games in 2015 and won 12 games in 2016. 12+10 is 22. Very simple math :). Also 16 game season in 2016 and last 10 games in 2015 is 26.

[Ming the Merciless]

Let's see here they won the last 10 games in 2015 and won 12 games in 2016. 12+10 is 22. Very simple math :). Also 16 game season in 2016 and last 10 games in 2015 is 26.

Check your numbers again...and your post.

Did Alex start in all 12 wins last season?

I thought he won 11

[penbrook]

Check your numbers again...and your post.

Did Alex start in all 12 wins last season?

I thought he won 11

Than he's won 21 out of 25. That means if Smitty were to play a game 100 times he will win 84 of them

[Willie Lanier]

Than he's won 21 out of 25. That means if Smitty were to play a game 100 times he will win 84 of them

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what smith has done for the team, but, I mean c'mon man

That has to be the most dimwitted attempt to use sample size as a theoretical argument that I can remember...

Quit while you're behind

[Willie Lanier]

Than he's won 21 out of 25. That means if Smitty were to play a game 100 times he will win 84 of them

And in this specific attempt at a statement, the proper (even if it's a shitty way to start a sentence) form would be Then as opposed to than...

Cmon man, you're embarrassing yourself

[Ming the Merciless]

Than he's won 21 out of 25. That means if Smitty were to play a game 100 times he will win 84 of them

That's not the subject...you were making a comparison to Brady and fudging the numbers. You also are trying to cut out and forget the 5 losses smith had right before that. When is the last time Brady lost 5 out of 6?

[penchief]

Can we kill this idiotic "smitty" nickname?

It's just dumb and lazy

I agree. If it were his real nickname that would be one thing. But in this context it's just creepy.

[Rasputin]

I agree. If it were his real nickname that would be one thing. But in this context it's just creepy.

Do average Quarterback need a nickname? I know we could call him Alex Smith.

[penchief]

Do average Quarterback need a nickname? I know we could call him Alex Smith.

Alex Smith is his name. I like Alex as a person and appreciate his contribution to turning around the culture of this team. But the persistent use of Smitty by penbrook makes me wish he was already gone.

[ARROW2]

Mahomes is hands down the most talented QB on the roster and it is not even close!!

[jaa1025]

On the contrary, if the first preseason game showed me anything it's that the Chiefs will be just as good or better this year if Smith goes down to injury. He was clearly more talented and very comfortable as the QB. Smith may have some aspects that he is clearly better at right now as a veteran, but as the season progresses, thing the gap will close a little in those things.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Than he's won 21 out of 25. That means if Smitty were to play a game 100 times he will win 84 of them

Stop using that name, kid. That's not his nickname and it's lame as all hell.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Or we could call both Alex and pen...Shitty

[Reerun_KC]

Mahomes is hands down the most talented QB on the roster and it is not even close!!

Yeah that's not even debatable.

[Reerun_KC]

Shitty Smitty rolled

[Black Bob]

If Smith goes down this year the team is ****ed. He's clearly the best QB on the roster right now.

I definitely felt better with Foles or Daniel on the roster. I'm not sure if we could win with Mahommes yet but, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things I guess. We probably won't win the SB anyway. I think Bray will be the #2 this season. Reid is just trying to light a fire in his ass right now. Mahommes is gonna sit this year for a couple of reasons. First, he's not ready. Second, he will be a distraction. He won't dress unless Alex or Bray are hurt or sick.

[Reerun_KC]

I definitely felt better with Foles or Daniel on the roster. I'm not sure if we could win with Mahommes yet but, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things I guess. We probably won't win the SB anyway. I think Bray will be the #2 this season. Reid is just trying to light a fire in his ass right now.

If we can win with Smith. We can win with Mahomes. It's not like Mahomes is replacing some sort of legend or anything. He would be replacing Alex Smith.

[Black Bob]

If we can win with Smith. We can win with Mahomes. It's not like Mahomes is replacing some sort of legend or anything. He would be replacing Alex Smith.

We don't have the Cowboys offense. I think people forget that when they say things like this. Mahomes hasn't done anything yet and rookies like Dak are extremely rare.

[Reerun_KC]

We don't have the Cowboys offense. I think people forget that when they say things like this. Mahomes hasn't done anything yet and rookies like Dak are extremely rare.

Still it's not difficult for Mahomes to replace Smith. If Reid can build an offense for a extremely limited QB like smith... He can for sure taylor one to mahomes...

Yes people realize he has done anything yet... Who would of thought. A first round rookie hasnt done anything yet in his first season before the season starts.

[raybec 4]

Smitty has won 22 out of his last 26 regular season games. I'm pretty sure not even Brady can do that in his last 26 regular season games

This has to be trolling.

[Rausch]

Still it's not difficult for Mahomes to replace Smith. If Reid can build an offense for a extremely limited QB like smith... He can for sure taylor one to mahomes...


We've waited 30 years to draft a 1st round QB.

We can wait one more to make sure the guy is ready to go...

[Reerun_KC]

We've waited 30 years to draft a 1st round QB.

We can wait one more to make sure the guy is ready to go...

Don't disagree. But this laughable narrative that CP QB experts try and build that Mahomes can't play for a year or 3 because he needs to sit and learn. It's bullshit. It's not 1988. It's 2017.

[chinaski]

We don't have the Cowboys offense. I think people forget that when they say things like this. Mahomes hasn't done anything yet and rookies like Dak are extremely rare.

The Cowboys had/have a fluke of an Offensive Line, as mentioned several different times on this forum by members with more football knowledge than me or you.

Dak thrived because of it. Not saying that he's not talented, just saying.

[Rausch]

Don't disagree. But this laughable narrative that CP QB experts try and build that Mahomes can't play for a year or 3 because he needs to sit and learn. It's bullshit. It's not 1988. It's 2017.

And most 1st round QB's bust because of it.

Most 1st year starters bust because of it.

Personally I think guys like David Carr and Tim Couch would have been franchise guys if the franchise had waited and built a team around them first.

People don't understand how rare it is for a QB to come in and start year one and later win a SB...

[Rausch]

The Cowboys had/have a fluke of an Offensive Line, as mentioned several different times on this forum by members with more football knowledge than me or you.

Dak thrived because of it. Not saying that he's not talented, just saying.

It helped not just a young QB but a rookie HB as well.

[NJChiefsFan]

The Cowboys had/have a fluke of an Offensive Line, as mentioned several different times on this forum by members with more football knowledge than me or you.

Dak thrived because of it. Not saying that he's not talented, just saying.

Their offensive line is a fluke?

[Rausch]

Their offensive line is a fluke?

It's a fluke for them to draft that many players and almost all of them turn out to be the studs they were touted as...

[PAChiefsGuy]

It's a fluke for them to draft that many players and almost all of them turn out to be the studs they were touted as...

I disagree. It shows good scouting and coaching. They probably have a really good Oline coach that helps develop them but if they keep making good decisions when it comes to drafting olineman clearly they are doing something right.

Alex Smith is his name. I like Alex as a person and appreciate his contribution to turning around the culture of this team. But the persistent use of Smitty by penbrook makes me wish he was already gone.

Nothing wrong with calling him Smitty. I don't see what the big deal is.

[chinaski]

Fluke or not, they have a good line and Dak thrived with it...

[Mav]

Most of the time this is true but some rookie QBs can handle the heat in the kitchen but not very often. Wilson did and Dak looks like he has but will know more in a few weeks now that he doesn't have the NO.1 RB for the first 6 games. It was much easier for Dak than Wilson IMHO because the o-line was mediocre at best for Seattle at the time and Dallas has the best in the league.



There's validity here but Russell Wilson played in two separate pro style systems in college. I think the jump is much harder for guys like Alex Smith Geno Smith Watson Mahomes and guys who run that spread exclusively.


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[Mav]

Dan Marino started his rookie season and had a HOF career. Dan Marino was only maybe a couple months older than Patrick is now and Patrick will be turning 22 next month.



Dan Marino compared Patrick to himself with mobility so really it's any ones guess good or bad how he will respond. I believe Andy Reid has been throwing all kinds of mental aspects and testing him out in practice and he is passing every test thrown at him. So I don't think he will be ruined. I think he can handle being a starter this year just not first few games and ideally after the bye week.



Nobody knows shit until it happens.



Age isn't the qualifier for me. Mahomes is going from learning English to Chinese . It's not as simple as "it's football, if you can play you can play."


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[Mav]

And most 1st round QB's bust because of it.



Most 1st year starters bust because of it.



Personally I think guys like David Carr and Tim Couch would have been franchise guys if the franchise had waited and built a team around them first.



People don't understand how rare it is for a QB to come in and start year one and later win a SB...



This.


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[Halfcan]

People can keep coming up with a million reasons Mahomes should not start at all this year- but the Odds are he will.

Smith most likely won't make it through the whole season without getting banged up again at least for one game. Mahomes will take his job at that point.

[PAChiefsGuy]

People can keep coming up with a million reasons Mahomes should not start at all this year- but the Odds are he will.

Smith most likely won't make it through the whole season without getting banged up again at least for one game. Mahomes will take his job at that point.

I think what most people are talking about is Mahomes starting from day 1.

If the coaches feel he is better than Alex Smith then I'm sure he will. If they don't then he won't. It is as simple as that.

[Reerun_KC]

Smith can't afford to get hurt or CTE this year.

[Halfcan]

I think what most people are talking about is Mahomes starting from day 1.

If the coaches feel he is better than Alex Smith then I'm sure he will. If they don't then he won't. It is as simple as that.

The chances of Andy throwing PM2 out there opening day in New England are ZERO. It would be a blood bath to start a rookie still learning the system up against the Champs. Alex is the starter-period.

But... if that door opens by Alex getting hurt- I think PM2 could have a great game and at the very least start a serious debate.

[RealSNR]

Age isn't the qualifier for me. Mahomes is going from learning English to Chinese . It's not as simple as "it's football, if you can play you can play."


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I think we've seen in his early development and reports from coaches that Mahomes isn't some dumb retarded jock.

It will take time, but it's not some tall task.

[Mav]

I think we've seen in his early development and reports from coaches that Mahomes isn't some dumb retarded jock.



It will take time, but it's not some tall task.



I don't think I remotely implied that he was a dumb jock. I'll break it down further. It took Donovan McNabb two full seasons to fully get Reid's system. It took Alex Smith about that long and he had already played in McCarthys system which is similar. The luxury is that the Chiefs don't have to rush Mahomes. It's a good thing.


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[RealSNR]

I don't think I remotely implied that he was a dumb jock. I'll break it down further. It took Donovan McNabb two full seasons to fully get Reid's system. It took Alex Smith about that long and he had already played in McCarthys system which is similar. The luxury is that the Chiefs don't have to rush Mahomes. It's a good thing.


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Sorry, didn't imply you were.

I think Mahomes is going to be a faster learner than McNabb, though. People forget all the shit that McNabb had to adjust to. It wasn't an easy transition coming from Syracuse to the NFL for him, either. And as much as Reid tried to protect him by bringing in Doug Pederson for a season, McNabb still was forced to start 6 games in his rookie year.

The air raid/spread transition to the pro style is a significant hurdle to many QBs becoming legit pros these days. There's a lot involved, and certainly Mahomes is facing a big challenge. All I'm saying is that so many QBs in that system also don't have his physical tools, natural and easy throwing ability, or his grit, even.

Just because Kliff Kingsbury, Colt Brennan, and Graham Harrell couldn't make NFL careers coming from air raid systems doesn't mean the same is true of Mahomes. He's a different breed of cat than those guys.

[BigCatDaddy]

This might rival Billy's "Trump Is Done" thread by seasons end.

[ModSocks]

Age isn't the qualifier for me. Mahomes is going from learning English to Chinese . It's not as simple as "it's football, if you can play you can play."


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Oh horse shit. Some of you make such a big deal out of this. It's ridiculous. No, it's NOTHING like going from English to Chineese.

Yes, it really is as simple as "if you can play you can play".

A post route by any other name is still a fucking post route.

[Ming the Merciless]

Oh horse shit. Some of you make such a big deal out of this. It's ridiculous. No, it's NOTHING like going from English to Chineese.

Yes, it really is as simple as "if you can play you can play".

A post route by any other name is still a ****ing post route.

I actually agree with this. The english to chinese thing is a terrible analogy, it would be more like going from Spanish (latin based) to Italian (also latin based).....

ANd above all of that some people have 'it' and some don't...You cant make any broad generalizations about how long it may or may not take for him to excel. You would start (like any language) with the basics...days of the week, numbers, colors, present tenses....and then feed more and more as they grasped it...continuing to work on more and more complex subtle nuances of the 'language' every additional season.

Even someone like Tom brady is still working constantly to perfect the 'language' ...like some kind of complex beautiful poetry or advanced novel , like Finnegan's Wake.

The work (towards perfection) never ends, and you have to start somewhere...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

If we can win with Smith. We can win with Mahomes. It's not like Mahomes is replacing some sort of legend or anything. He would be replacing Alex Smith.

People can keep coming up with a million reasons Mahomes should not start at all this year- but the Odds are he will.

Smith most likely won't make it through the whole season without getting banged up again at least for one game. Mahomes will take his job at that point.

Mahomes is going in to this season as #2, so people need to replace their worry-pads and get the fuck over it.

Do you think Mahomes wants to sit behind Tyler fucking Bray for a year?
FUCK no.
And that's why he's working to whip Tyler's ass right off the roster if need be.
He wants that 2 and all the responsibilities that come with it, so he can prove to Reid that he's ready to compete for the starting job in 2018.

Thank God this kid has more moxie and balls than 1/2 the posters of this forum who somehow think they have ascended to Head Coach status.

Jesus...

[dls6501]

I don't think I remotely implied that he was a dumb jock. I'll break it down further. It took Donovan McNabb two full seasons to fully get Reid's system. It took Alex Smith about that long and he had already played in McCarthys system which is similar. The luxury is that the Chiefs don't have to rush Mahomes. It's a good thing.


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If it truly took Alex Smith 2 years to learn Andy Reid's system, wouldnt that imply that he was more successful at running it in years 3 and 4 than he was in years 1 and 2? Because he wasnt. Basically 4 years of the same Alex.

[threebag]

Alex will be fine

[Sandy Vagina]

If it truly took Alex Smith 2 years to learn Andy Reid's system, wouldnt that imply that he was more successful at running it in years 3 and 4 than he was in years 1 and 2? Because he wasnt. Basically 4 years of the same Alex.

3rd best win % over the years. Sure sounds like things were working, 9ers fan.

Dynamic and high production? nope... but it was working. Team just needs to be healthy and hot against the other top teams in the playoffs... and they have not been.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

3rd best win % over the years. Sure sounds like things were working, 9ers fan.

Dynamic and high production? nope... but it was working. Team just needs to be healthy and hot against the other top teams in the playoffs... and they have not been.

You who's NOT going to need all players present and all cylinders firing after his 10th+ year in the league?

Mocha Peen, that's who.

[tomahawkchop25]

in all honesty, mahomes should take over as the starter as soon as the game isn't too big for him. whether that's week 1 or week 8 or next year. the game on friday night - was not too big for him. he was poised and in control. he looked as confident as any rookie i've ever seen. i'm inclined to think he should take over before the season is over.

alex won't win anything of importance. not this year. not ever. it's not his tools; it's his mindset.

the sooner mahomes takes the reigns, the better. guys like derek carr, mariota, dak, russ wilson, jameis winston, andrew luck, andy dalton, big ben, matt ryan and several others have succeeded from the get-go. if he's ready, then he's ready. forget the "he doesn't know reid's system yet" nonsense. good coaches adjust to their players.

and to this point, reid's system hasn't won a damn thing (nfc championships notwithstanding). mahomes is the most talented qb he's ever had. he needs to adjust as needed. patrick wouldn't be suffering the same fate as the elder carr, bortles and other qb's who were potentially ruined by starting too early. he's on a good team. he'll be able to grow into it without needing to be a savior.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

in all honesty, mahomes should take over as the starter as soon as the game isn't too big for him. whether that's week 1 or week 8 or next year. the game on friday night - was not too big for him. he was poised and in control. he looked as confident as any rookie i've ever seen. i'm inclined to think he should take over before the season is over.

alex won't win anything of importance. not this year. not ever. it's not his tools; it's his mindset.

the sooner mahomes takes the reigns, the better. guys like derek carr, mariota, dak, russ wilson, jameis winston, andrew luck, andy dalton, big ben, matt ryan and several others have succeeded from the get-go. if he's ready, then he's ready. forget the "he doesn't know reid's system yet" nonsense. good coaches adjust to their players.

and to this point, reid's system hasn't won a damn thing (nfc championships notwithstanding). mahomes is the most talented qb he's ever had. he needs to adjust as needed. alex wouldn't be suffering the same fate as the elder carr, bortles and other qb's who were potentially ruined by starting too early. he's on a good team. he'll be able to grow into it without needing to be a savior.

I pray that more of the base begins to come around to your point of view.

Mahomes needs his development, but at some point you have to weigh the cost in terms of lack of real world/game-time experience.

He seems to be moving very fast, and we should all be encouraged by this. The kid is as much a competitor and workaholic for his craft as I've ever seen. I think people were initially weary due to his age and the Tech background, but it seems that those concerns were simply the situation he found himself in, and not that he couldn't rise above them.
It's a hell of a show and a very fun journey.

[PAChiefsGuy]

I pray that more of the base begins to come around to your point of view.

Mahomes needs his development, but at some point you have to weigh the cost in terms of lack of real world/game-time experience.

He seems to be moving very fast, and we should all be encouraged by this. The kid is as much a competitor and workaholic for his craft as I've ever seen. I think people were initially weary due to his age and the Tech background, but it seems that those concerns were simply the situation he found himself in, and not that he couldn't rise above them.
It's a hell of a show and a very fun journey.

Amazing you came to that conclusion after one preseason game. Wow...

[tomahawkchop25]

i was more excited on friday night than i have been in years. we actually have a real chance for the first time since 03 or montana.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Amazing you came to that conclusion after one preseason game. Wow...

It's a simple processing of existing information.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

i was more excited on friday night than i have been in years. we actually have a real chance for the first time since 03 or montana.

Yes, we will have a REAL chance. That is the most important aspect of all.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

I was at practice today and Alex is the best QB on the roster. Mahommes made some bad reads and mistakes, but this is what you expect from a rookie. I also listened to Alex's interview at the 810 Tent afterwards, he is very complimentary of Mahommes and his cool and confident attitude. It was also enjoyable to watch him and Alex and the other QB's in a throwing competition with the coaches and how competitive they were with the coaches and wanted to win. I think the QB position for the Chiefs looks good for many years to come... Alex, then PMII to follow.

[Reerun_KC]

Jfc. Of course

[NJChiefsFan]

Fluke or not, they have a good line and Dak thrived with it...

Ok that makes more sense. I still disagree but I thought you were saying their skill was a fluke and wouldn't continue.

Smith, Frederick, and Martin were all pretty safe picks. They came with a high chance of working out. Hell, a lot of Giants fans wanted Martin over OBJ. Even Collins talent wasn't really doubted, just his character. I wouldn't describe all of those talents working out as a fluke.

[jjchieffan]

You know, all of this discussion has made me think about a rookie quarterback about 10 years ago. He was drafted around the middle of the first round and was supposed to sit a year like Mahomes. I believe that he was even supposed to be the 3rd string quarterback because he was considered to be so green. Then the starter and the backup got injured thrusting him into the lineup on day one. He responded by taking his team to the playoffs and winning 2 games on the road. He has since made it to the AFC championship game 3 times and earned a Superbowl ring and Superbowl MVP. You guys know who I'm talking about. Anyway. I said all of that to say that I wouldn't say that Mahomes would fair as well if he were thrust into the starter role right away. But that he wouldn't necessarily be ruined by doing it either. I see a lot of people polarized one way or the other on this subject. But every player and every situation is different. There's no right or wrong answer here. There are stories of success and stories of failure to support both sides of the argument.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Jfc. Of course

LMAO

[jjchieffan]

Crap! Posted that in the wrong thread. Well, I'm gonna repost it in the Mahomes thread. To the repost police, I'll beat you to it.

Q

[dls6501]

3rd best win % over the years. Sure sounds like things were working, 9ers fan.

Dynamic and high production? nope... but it was working. Team just needs to be healthy and hot against the other top teams in the playoffs... and they have not been.

What a shocker that you missed the point.

My point is that if Reid's offense was so difficult to learn and it took Alex 2 years to learn it, the logical assumption would be that Alex's grasp on leading the offense and production would be markedly different in year 3 and 4 as it was in year 1 and 2. It wasnt.

[BlackOp]

Remember when Foles came in during Indy...and the Smith bash-tards were SO excited for him to start the following week...until they actually saw him play an entire game.

The roaches went scurrying back under the baseboards....

[rico]

Remember when Foles came in during Indy...and the Smith bash-tards were SO excited for him to start the following week...until they actually saw him play an entire game.

The roaches went scurrying back under the baseboards....

I was not one that scurried away.

Foles completed 20 out of 32 passes for 187 yards with 1 TD and 0 INT's. He wasn't, by any means, a world-beater in that game and he threw a couple very risky passes that could have been picked, but his performance wasn't as bad as a lot of you try to make it sound. Let's not act like we haven't seen much, much worse performances from Alex on several occasions.

[Nickhead]

Remember when Foles came in during Indy...and the Smith bash-tards were SO excited for him to start the following week...until they actually saw him play an entire game.

The roaches went scurrying back under the baseboards....

come on, it was the jaguars. they give teams problems all the time. they are perennial contenders every year. :D

for the first pick in the draft each year :D

[rico]

come on, it was the jaguars. they give teams problems all the time. they are perennial contenders every year. :D

for the first pick in the draft each year :D

Their defense wasn't that bad, homeslice.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/netTotalYards/position/defense

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Remember when Foles came in during Indy...and the Smith bash-tards were SO excited for him to start the following week...until they actually saw him play an entire game.

The roaches went scurrying back under the baseboards....

HAI GUIZ; remember when the Chiefs acquired Foles and all the Alex-bashers rejoiced?!?!?



Yeah, me neither.

[Coochie liquor]

Alex Smith is his name. I like Alex as a person and appreciate his contribution to turning around the culture of this team. But the persistent use of Smitty by penbrook makes me wish he was already gone.

Someone should make a new fucked up smilie that gets replaced when smitty is typed.

[Eleazar]

If Smith goes down this year the team is ****ed. He's clearly the best QB on the roster right now.

I am sure it's been said, but this is a throwaway season anyway. I hope Alex stays healthy - so that Mahomes is not rushed into playing, not because this team has any serious super bowl aspirations.

[JohnV]

Remember when Foles came in during Indy...and the Smith bash-tards were SO excited for him to start the following week...until they actually saw him play an entire game.

The roaches went scurrying back under the baseboards....

Seeing how the season ended the way everyone predicted, there was nothing wrong with people wanting to see what Foles could do.

Who knows, maybe your offense would of at least resembled an NFL offense after a few weeks with Foles. We know it never did with Alex. All Foles did was win, big mistake not giving him more time imo.

[rico]

Seeing how the season ended the way everyone predicted, there was nothing wrong with people wanting to see what Foles could do.

Who knows, maybe your offense would of at least resembled an NFL offense after a few weeks with Foles. We know it never did with Alex. All Foles did was win, big mistake not giving him more time imo.

That's right. All Foles did was win for us. Let's not hate on him for it!!!

[Best22]

Foles passes did not have enough "zip" on them. If Mahomes looks anything like Foles I'll be depressed

[RealSNR]

Amazing you came to that conclusion after one preseason game. Wow...

There's a difference between anointing him as the best QB to ever play the game and refusing to acknowledge when he does positive things on the field in spite of the evidence being right in your own fucking face.

Just fucking incredible. You didn't think the guy looked confident and poised on Friday? You didn't think he had some nice throws? You didn't see anything that made you go, "Damn, this guy is good!"?

[rico]

Foles passes did not have enough "zip" on them. If Mahomes looks anything like Foles I'll be depressed

Mahomes is gonna throw a much prettier ball with more velocity than Foles.

[rico]

There's a difference between anointing him as the best QB to ever play the game and refusing to acknowledge when he does positive things on the field in spite of the evidence being right in your own ****ing face.

Just ****ing incredible. You didn't think the guy looked confident and poised on Friday? You didn't think he had some nice throws? You didn't see anything that made you go, "Damn, this guy is good!"?

That guy is a mult. Or an Alexual posing as a Chiefs fan when it's obvious he's not.

These Alexuals are reaching a new point of crazy. They are now creating mult accounts and posing as actual Chiefs fans in their freaking usernames to "prove" that they are Chiefs fans...even though they fail to realize that their Alexuality is noticeable after like 5 posts to the point where they can be transparent, for Alex-only fans are THAT transparent. It is freaking weird.

[BlackOp]

That's right. All Foles did was win for us. Let's not hate on him for it!!!

I'm sure the irony is lost...

[rico]

I'm sure the irony is lost...

Irony?! There's irony in that?!?!

[PAChiefsGuy]

That guy is a mult. Or an Alexual posing as a Chiefs fan when it's obvious he's not.

These Alexuals are reaching a new point of crazy. They are now creating mult accounts and posing as actual Chiefs fans in their freaking usernames to "prove" that they are Chiefs fans...even though they fail to realize that their Alexuality is noticeable after like 5 posts to the point where they can be transparent, for Alex-only fans are THAT transparent. It is freaking weird.

This post isn't even worth responding to but I will anyway.

Once again I have been a Chief fan since I was a kid. Just because you are an Alex Smith hater doesn't mean every Chief fan is. It's as simple as that.

Smitty has success = Chiefs have success

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alex+Smith+Kansas+City+Chiefs+v+Oakland+Raiders+hST_dExTbMyl.jpg

[BlackOp]

That guy is a mult. Or an Alexual posing as a Chiefs fan when it's obvious he's not.

These Alexuals are reaching a new point of crazy. They are now creating mult accounts and posing as actual Chiefs fans in their freaking usernames to "prove" that they are Chiefs fans...even though they fail to realize that their Alexuality is noticeable after like 5 posts to the point where they can be transparent, for Alex-only fans are THAT transparent. It is freaking weird.

Why is anyone that thinks having a QB that's gone 11-5/12-4, 22-4 isn't terrible..an Alexual? It has to be one or the other? Pick a side...it's junior high.

It's the obsessive hatred that's fucked up...Like it or not...Mahomes isn't a better QB than Smith right now. He's 21 years old...

[rico]

This post isn't even worth responding to but I will anyway.

Once again I have been a Chief fan since I was a kid. Just because you are an Alex Smith hater doesn't mean every Chief fan is. It's as simple as that.

Smitty has success = Chiefs have success

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alex+Smith+Kansas+City+Chiefs+v+Oakland+Raiders+hST_dExTbMyl.jpg


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Dude, shut up. You telling me that I can't sniff out an Alexual from a mile away is like a vampire telling Blade that he isn't a vampire. And you are one of the more obvious ones. PAChiefsGuy...LMAO..."my username will be PAChiefsGuy and that way, they will never suspect me, no matter how much gravy I lick off of Alex's nutsack!!! And if someone tries to tell me I'm not an Alex-only fan, I will point out to them that the word "Chiefs" is in my username. It's genius!!!" Good...lord.

[Bugeater]

He's absolutely an Alex jock fondler. All it takes is a quick scan of his posting history. I bet he doesn't even live in PA.

[rico]

Why is anyone that thinks having a QB that's gone 11-5/12-4, 22-4 isn't terrible..an Alexual? It has to be one or the other? Pick a side...it's junior high.

It's the obsessive hatred that's ****ed up...Like it or not...Mahomes isn't a better QB than Smith right now. He's 21 years old...

That's not the criteria. There really isn't a criteria. I don't think you are an Alexual. I think you are a Chiefs fan who loves Alex. There is a difference between you and huge, gaping Alex-vagina lickers like freaking PAChiefsGuy.

[rico]

He's absolutely an Alex jock fondler. All it takes is a quick scan of his posting history. I bet he doesn't even live in PA.

This.

[BlackOp]

That's not the criteria. There really isn't a criteria. I don't think you are an Alexual. I think you are a Chiefs fan who loves Alex. There is a difference between you and huge, gaping Alex-vagina lickers like freaking PAChiefsGuy.

I love having a QB that can go into Denver and beat them, twice in a row, in their house...and ruin their season on Christmas in front of a national audience. Clowning the Raiders $25 million dollar QB four times in a row is a bonus too...

I am guilty of that..I'll admit.

People can hate on Smith..but he has owned the AFCW the past 2 years...11-1. How can any Chiefs fan be pissed about that?

He was also part of blowing out the Pats...and sending Brady-boy to the bench...on a national broadcast. He was part of benching Manningstien too... He might be the only QB to ever do that to both. Hate him if you want but that's pretty awesome...

[JohnV]

I love having a QB that can go into Denver and beat them, twice in a row, in their house...and ruin their season on Christmas in front of a national audience. Clowning the Raiders $25 million dollar QB four times in a row is a bonus too...

I am guilty of that..I'll admit.

People can hate on Smith..but he has owned the AFCW the past 2 years...11-1. How can any Chiefs fan be pissed about that?

This isn't tennis. He has a team around him, and the wins are more a reflection of their play than his.

[RealSNR]

Why is anyone that thinks having a QB that's gone 11-5/12-4, 22-4 isn't terrible..an Alexual? It has to be one or the other? Pick a side...it's junior high.

It's the obsessive hatred that's fucked up...Like it or not...Mahomes isn't a better QB than Smith right now. He's 21 years old...

The Chiefs in the 2007 and 2008 seasons were an abysmal trainwreck. The defense and offense each had one good player on each side and that was fucking it-- Jared Allen and Tony Gonzalez. Hali was young, and Derrick Johnson appeared to be nothing more than a giant draft bust. Eddie Kennison retired and gave what tiny responsibilities he had to . The smoldering remnants that were worthwhile from that Vermeil offensive line were old men in the very twilight of their careers surrounded by human turnstiles like Jordan Black, Damien McIntosh, Rudy Niswanger, and Adrian Jones. LJ was "cak'n patna," and we even trotted out Priest Holmes, who was dangerously close to becoming fucking paralyzed with his goddamn neck.

And in spite of that mayhem, Damon Huard was a QB who didn't make mistakes. He kept his INTs low, and he knew how to take a sack as good as Cassel or Smith-- people forget how good Huard was at taking sacks. He was a master.

The team won 6 games those two seasons combined. Damon Huard was the starting QB in 5 of them (started 13 games overall). The year before that (the Trent Green concussion year) Damon Huard went 5-3 for the 8-game stretch that he was the starter. He game managed well in spite of a mediocre defense and an insistence that their starting RB could do no wrong even as his YPC tanked that entire season.

By all accounts, Damon Huard played football Alex Smith style. And he won games with it. Had he been given Alex's defense and coaching staff, I imagine Huard could have amassed a pretty decent winning percentage in Kansas City.

Alex Smith is a more athletic Damon Huard. That's why people on this forum reject the notion that accepting a QB based solely on his record is good enough. Alex Smith is NOT good enough. Huard was Alex Smith. Bono was Alex Smith. DeBerg was Alex Smith.

Enough fucking Alex Smiths. Thank God the end is finally coming in 2018. I can't fucking wait.

[BlackOp]

This isn't tennis. He has a team around him, and the wins are more a reflection of their play than his.

So..by that rationale...Green Bay and New Orleans should hate their QB too and blame them for everything? Did Packer fans blame Rodgers for the guy fumbling the kick off in the playoffs?

Did Chief fans blame Kelce for dropping that pass against the Steelers? Did Chief fans blame Hali for dropping that INT vs. the Pats or Berry blowing his coverage against Gronk?

You're right..it takes a collective team effort.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Okay here's a question for all the Alex Smith haters. Are the Chiefs with Smith better or worse than they were before they signed him?

Lets see what the Chiefs record was 10 years before he came here. All playoff seasons in bold.

2012 2-14
2011 7-9
2010 10-6
2009 4-12
2008 2-14
2007 4-12
2006 9-7
2005 10-6
2004 7-9
2003 13-3

So we have 4 winning seasons in 10 years and 0 playoff victories.

Since Alex has been here

2016 12-4
2015 11-5
2014 9-7
2013 11-5

Since Alex has been here it's been 4 winning seasons in 4 seasons and three playoff seasons. Seems to me us Chief fans should be a little more appreciative of Alex Smith. Don't ya think?:hmmm:

Team game absolutely, but if a QB continues to win games despite a variety of circumstances you have to admit, we have a good QB IN KC! Not elite, not great but good and he certainly doesn't deserve all the insults he gets on this board.

[Chiefnj2]

Okay here's a question for all the Alex Smith haters. Are the Chiefs with Smith better or worse than they were before they signed him?

Lets see what the Chiefs record was 10 years before he came here. All playoff seasons in bold.

2012 2-14
2011 7-9
2010 10-6
2009 4-12
2008 2-14
2007 4-12
2006 9-7
2005 10-6
2004 7-9
2003 13-3

So we have 4 winning seasons in 10 years and 0 playoff victories.

Since Alex has been here

2016 12-4
2015 11-5
2014 9-7
2013 11-5

Since Alex has been here it's been 4 winning seasons in 4 seasons and three playoff seasons. Seems to me us Chief fans should be a little more appreciative of Alex Smith. Don't ya think?:hmmm:

Team game absolutely, but if a QB continues to win games despite a variety of circumstances you have to admit, we have a good QB IN KC! Not elite, not great but good and he certainly doesn't deserve all the insults he gets on this board.

Your time would be more productive slamming your penis in your bathroom door. You aren't going to change anyone's opinion on Smith.

[Rasputin]

Okay here's a question for all the Alex Smith haters. Are the Chiefs with Smith better or worse than they were before they signed him?

Lets see what the Chiefs record was 10 years before he came here. All playoff seasons in bold.

2012 2-14
2011 7-9
2010 10-6
2009 4-12
2008 2-14
2007 4-12
2006 9-7
2005 10-6
2004 7-9
2003 13-3

So we have 4 winning seasons in 10 years and 0 playoff victories.

Since Alex has been here

2016 12-4
2015 11-5
2014 9-7
2013 11-5

Since Alex has been here it's been 4 winning seasons in 4 seasons and three playoff seasons. Seems to me us Chief fans should be a little more appreciative of Alex Smith. Don't ya think?:hmmm:

Team game absolutely, but if a QB continues to win games despite a variety of circumstances you have to admit, we have a good QB IN KC! Not elite, not great but good and he certainly doesn't deserve all the insults he gets on this board.

Thanks to the defense and special teams in that it's complete opposite of what Trent Green had. In that same time Rex Grossman won more playoff games and so did Mr. Buttfumbler Mark Sanchez that won more playoff games than Alex Smith. what are you trying to prove?

[rico]

Okay here's a question for all the Alex Smith haters. Are the Chiefs with Smith better or worse than they were before they signed him?

Lets see what the Chiefs record was 10 years before he came here. All playoff seasons in bold.

2012 2-14
2011 7-9
2010 10-6
2009 4-12
2008 2-14
2007 4-12
2006 9-7
2005 10-6
2004 7-9
2003 13-3

So we have 4 winning seasons in 10 years and 0 playoff victories.

Since Alex has been here

2016 12-4
2015 11-5
2014 9-7
2013 11-5

Since Alex has been here it's been 4 winning seasons in 4 seasons and three playoff seasons.

Seems to me us Chief fans should be a little more appreciative of Alex Smith. Don't ya think?:hmmm:

Team game absolutely, but if a QB continues to win games despite a variety of circumstances you have to admit, we have a good QB IN KC! Not elite, not great but good and he certainly doesn't deserve all the insults he gets on this board.

You Alexuals and your stupid questions.

Alex is not as bad as Cassel, no.

However...Alex would have done much worse these past few years with Pioli, Crennell and Daboll than he did with Dorsey, Reid and Pederson/Childress/Nagy.

[BlackOp]

By all accounts, Damon Huard played football Alex Smith style. And he won games with it. Had he been given Alex's defense and coaching staff, I imagine Huard could have amassed a pretty decent winning percentage in Kansas City.
.

So...you're saying it was a twist of unfortunate timing that Huard didn't have the 3rd most wins in the NFL over a 6 season span? It's just as easy as that...

CP Smith-hater logic on display...

[rico]

I love having a QB that can go into Denver and beat them, twice in a row, in their house...and ruin their season on Christmas in front of a national audience. Clowning the Raiders $25 million dollar QB four times in a row is a bonus too...

I am guilty of that..I'll admit.

People can hate on Smith..but he has owned the AFCW the past 2 years...11-1. How can any Chiefs fan be pissed about that?

He was also part of blowing out the Pats...and sending Brady-boy to the bench...on a national broadcast. He was part of benching Manningstien too... He might be the only QB to ever do that to both. Hate him if you want but that's pretty awesome...

That's fine, you give Smith a lot of credit for not throwing INT's that led to losses in those games and that's fine. You are not an Alexual trying to convert us, so I respect your opinion as an actual Chiefs fan.

I just think the guy has been blessed with an awesome team and and I give that supporting cast more credit than I do Alex...because the majority of his supporting cast is better than him. This team could be just slaughtering everyone.

[Rasputin]

I swear the more people try to convince me to like Alex Smith for whatever reason the more I'm going hate and despise him. Fuck retreads especially those from San Francisco.

[PAChiefsGuy]

You Alexuals and your stupid questions.

Alex is not as bad as Cassel, no.

However...Alex would have done much worse these past few years with Pioli, Crennell and Daboll than he did with Dorsey, Reid and Pederson/Childress/Nagy.

Reid and Alex are a good combo, agreed. But it is called a combination for a reason.

I'm sure Reid would have done just as well with Cassel as his QB these past few seasons. Wouldn't you agree?

See how this works?

[penbrook]

Smitty was clutch last year. He single handedly brought us back from the biggest deficit in Chiefs history at halftime to win! He got us a TD against the best defense in the NFL in the Broncos last year with 2 minutes left to force a overtime. That's just a couple of moments.

[JohnV]

So..by that rationale...Green Bay and New Orleans should hate their QB too and blame them for everything? Did Packer fans blame Rodgers for the guy fumbling the kick off in the playoffs?

Did Chiefs fans blame Kelce for dropping that pass against the Steelers?

No, because they don't suck. They are the reason their team is there. They are their teams lifeline.

That's not Alex. He is inept at scoring points and that will come back to bite you at some point in the playoffs. Some people don't recognize his faults because he doesn't make too many obvious mistakes and you've won so many games with him being inept, but you're going to need better if you plan on going through playoff teams for a Super Bowl run

[Rasputin]

Smitty was clutch last year. He single handedly brought us back from the biggest deficit in Chiefs history at halftime to win! He got us a TD against the best defense in the NFL in the Broncos last year with 2 minutes left to force a overtime. That's just a couple of moments.

He wasn't clutch in the playoffs.

[rico]

Reid and Alex are a good combo, agreed. But it is called a combination for a reason.

I'm sure Reid would have done just as well with Cassel as his QB these past few seasons. Wouldn't you agree?

See how this works?

If you were around watching the Chiefs during the Cassel era you would realize that Cassel literally is the bottom of the barrel and never had any business being in the NFL to begin with. The guy didn't even start a game in college prior to the NFL. So no, it doesn't work this way...dumb comparison. This is Matt Cassel we are talking about...although I realize that probably means nothing to you since you've probably never seen him play.

And the funny thing is...I was at Arrowhead and personally witnessed Cassel out-perform Smith in 2010... I couldn't believe that I seemed to be witnessing a QB as incompetent as Cassel. It blew my mind.

[threebag]

So...you're saying it was a twist of unfortunate timing that Huard didn't have the 3rd most wins in the NFL over a 6 season span? It's just as easy as that...

CP Smith-hater logic on display...

Yeah he is a cock gobbling blow hard with a need to blast his cock sucker

[BlackOp]

He wasn't clutch in the playoffs.

He drove them back to tie the game...he made the 2 point conversion. He cant control the LT or the refs.

Unless that didn't happen and we watched different games...the defense had the chance to force a punt.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Alex 'All I Do Is Win' Smith

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GettyImages-602994960.0.jpg

[rico]

No, because they don't suck. They are the reason their team is there. They are their teams lifeline.

That's not Alex. He is inept at scoring points and that will come back to bite you at some point in the playoffs. Some people don't recognize his faults because he doesn't make too many obvious mistakes and you've won so many games with him being inept, but you're going to need better if you plan on going through playoff teams for a Super Bowl run

This.

[rico]

Alex 'all i do is win' Smith

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GettyImages-602994960.0.jpg


http://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/7u87ka-ChiefsSeahawks-0493-8-13-16-JFS.JPG/alternates/LANDSCAPE_768/ChiefsSeahawks%200493%208-13-16%20JFS.JPG


All Foles did last year was win.

[threebag]

Alex 'All I Do Is Win' Smith

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GettyImages-602994960.0.jpg

Great picture. The fucktard haters probably have a copy in their spank bank.

[Bowser]

Alex 'All I Do Is Win' Smith

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GettyImages-602994960.0.jpg

He's the Marty Schottenheimer of quarterbacks!

[BlackOp]

I swear the more people try to convince me to like Alex Smith for whatever reason the more I'm going hate and despise him. **** retreads especially those from San Francisco.

Don't let my observations sway you from blind hatred...

[PAChiefsGuy]

He's the Marty Schottenheimer of quarterbacks!

Pretty much. Hopefully he can get us a SB though.

[penbrook]

Alex 'All I Do Is Win' Smith

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GettyImages-602994960.0.jpg

I need to get this framed!! Talk about a winner!

[penbrook]

If Smitty wins a super bowl this year I wonder if all the CP haters will still be hating on Smith

[rico]

I need to get this framed!! Talk about a winner!

ROFL

[Rasputin]

He drove them back to tie the game...he made the 2 point conversion. He cant control the LT or the refs.

Unless that didn't happen and we watched different games...the defense had the chance to force a punt.

I'm sure there is a gif around here somewhere to show him not pulling the trigger to a open Tyreek running down the field that could have been the clutch throw we needed.

[Rasputin]

If Smitty wins a super bowl this year I wonder if all the CP haters will still be hating on Smith

I would gladly be wrong and be happy with a Super Bowl win. Lets get it this year ok prove me wrong about Alex Smith.


Otherwise fuck Alex Smith.

[BlackOp]

I'm sure there is a gif around here somewhere to show him not pulling the trigger to a open Tyreek running down the field that could have been the clutch throw we needed.

Oh, I agree....that was a terrible decision but the Kelce drop was equally as terrible. Then he lost his mind because he knew he fucked up and committed a personal foul... Chiefs WRs shit the bed that game...dropped like 7 passes.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Oh, I agree....that was a terrible decision but the Kelce drop was equally as terrible. Then he lost his mind because he knew he ****ed up and committed a personal foul... Chiefs WRs shit the bed that game...dropped like 7 passes.

Honestly, the only area we really did well was our redzone D. Game is a blowout otherwise. Everything else was average to bad but people want to blame Alex for everything. It's ridiculous.

[dls6501]

Alex 'All I Do Is Win' Smith


Since you appear to be one of the more level headed Smith enthusiasts, can you answer me something? Smith fans constantly bring up regular season record in attempt to prove he is better than others think.

So why is it that when said others bring up his playoff record, Smith fans stick their fingers in their ears and yell la la la la? I mean, Smith fans claim that winning trumps everything. So why is it that when playoffs are brought up, winning is ignored?

Asking for 95% of Chiefs fans.

[penbrook]

Since you appear to be one of the more level headed Smith enthusiasts, can you answer me something? Smith fans constantly bring up regular season record in attempt to prove he is better than others think.

So why is it that when said others bring up his playoff record, Smith fans stick their fingers in their ears and yell la la la la? I mean, Smith fans claim that winning trumps everything. So why is it that when playoffs are brought up, winning is ignored?

Asking for 95% of Chiefs fans.

Would you prefer Rex Grossman? He took a team to a super bowl and hell Dilfer even won one!!

[ModSocks]

Would you prefer Rex Grossman? He took a team to a super bowl and hell Dilfer even won one!!

If it meant i got a SB, then yes. That would mean i got a SB, then dumped him for a QBoTF.

Win/Win.

Alex got us NO SB and a QBoTF.

That's a Lose/Win.

[Bowser]

I need to get this framed!! Talk about a winner!

Looks like that cameraman is about to beat the fuck out of him with that camera. Are we sure this wasn't taken after the Steelers game?

[BlackOp]

Honestly, the only area we really did well was our redzone D. Game is a blowout otherwise. Everything else was average to bad but people want to blame Alex for everything. It's ridiculous.
I will say this...for as much shit as Smith gets...Kelce didnt receive enough for that awful two play sequence.

He flat-out dropped the most important pass of the season...that's the type of shit you almost never see the Patriots do in big situations. It's why they win SBs...and KC loses by 2 points.

[dls6501]

Would you prefer Rex Grossman? He took a team to a super bowl and hell Dilfer even won one!!

Are you asking me if I prefer us to go to the Superbowl or win a Superbowl with a s*** quarterback?

Um...YES.

I assume you are a Chiefs fan right? I dont see how that is even a question. So dumb.

[ModSocks]

Looks like that cameraman is about to beat the **** out of him with that camera. Are we sure this wasn't taken after the Steelers game?

LMAO

LMAO

LMAO

[threebag]

ChiefsPlanet where haters shit on Alex Smith less than they shit on their buddies dick

[penbrook]

Looks like that cameraman is about to beat the **** out of him with that camera. Are we sure this wasn't taken after the Steelers game?

Chargers game! Where he led the biggest comeback inChiefs history after halftime!

[ModSocks]

Are you asking me if I prefer us to go to the Superbowl or win a Superbowl with a s*** quarterback?

Um...YES.

I assume you are a Chiefs fan right? I dont see how that is even a question. So dumb.

"Would you rather have Alex Smith or a SB win?"

I don't think he thought that one through very well. It's ok. He's young. We can fix him still.

[penbrook]

"Would you rather have Alex Smith or a SB win?"

I don't think he thought that one through very well. It's ok. He's young. We can fix him still.

Grossman never won a super bowl. Dilfer won with one of the best defenses of all time

[Discuss Thrower]

"Would you rather have Alex Smith or a SB win?"

I don't think he thought that one through very well. It's ok. He's young. We can fix him still.

The first option would be sickeningly popular if put to a vote.

[rico]

Are you asking me if I prefer us to go to the Superbowl or win a Superbowl with a s*** quarterback?

Um...YES.

I assume you are a Chiefs fan right? I dont see how that is even a question. So dumb.

He's an Alex-only fan.

Sandy, PASmitttyGuy, Penbrook, threebag, JakeF, Temper11, 13now11, Mav, Tiger and the Alex-sexiest Alexsexual of them all:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ff/e2/a8/ffe2a80446ec0d26b6b48287bf9549c9--norm-macdonald-weekend-update.jpg

"You guessed it, Baby Lee."

All Alexsexuals.

[JakeF]

It appears that Mahomes has been good for Smith. Mahomes has brought youth,energy and an aggressive attitude to the team. It seems to be loosening Alex Smith up and bringing some fun back to the game for him.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Since you appear to be one of the more level headed Smith enthusiasts, can you answer me something? Smith fans constantly bring up regular season record in attempt to prove he is better than others think.

So why is it that when said others bring up his playoff record, Smith fans stick their fingers in their ears and yell la la la la? I mean, Smith fans claim that winning trumps everything. So why is it that when playoffs are brought up, winning is ignored?

Asking for 95% of Chiefs fans.

That's a very good point. I guess I'd say it is because his playoff stats are rather impressive. I think he currently has 12 TDs 2 INTs decent amount of yds, compl % also decent. His playoffs passer rating is also very good.

But winning in the playoffs is definitely an area Smith and Reid have struggled since they have been here but I think a variety of factors have played into that. Overall except the Steelers gm and maybe Houston gm (which we won anyway, Alex simply managed the gm and let our D dominate) he has played well in the playoffs.

We have to stay healthy and get that run D fixed. IMO if we do that we can beat anyone including the Patriots.

[threebag]

He's an Alex-only fan.

Sandy, PASmitttyGuy, Penbrook, JakeF, Temper11, 13now11, Mav, Tiger and the Alex-sexiest Alexsexual of them all:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ff/e2/a8/ffe2a80446ec0d26b6b48287bf9549c9--norm-macdonald-weekend-update.jpg

"You guessed it, Baby Lee."

All Alexsexuals.

I can't even get a table dance? Generally I make the cut when this list out

[penbrook]

It appears that Mahomes has been good for Smith. Mahomes has brought youth,energy and an aggressive attitude to the team. It seems to be loosening Alex Smith up and bringing some fun back to the game for him.

Exactly! And no I am a Chiefs fan not a Alex only Fan. However Alex is the third winningest QB in the NFL the past 4 years. He's better than everyone but Wilson and Brady in the regular season.

[rico]

I can't even get a table dance?

ROFL I thought about you, but I think I know better....haha I'll edit and add you in anyways, as a table-dance!!!

[dls6501]

That's a very good point. I guess I'd say it is because his playoff stats are rather impressive. I think he currently has 12 TDs 2 INTs decent amount of yds, compl % also decent. His playoffs passer rating is also very good.

But winning in the playoffs is definitely an area Smith and Reid have struggled since they have been here but I think a variety of factors have played into that. Overall except maybe Steelers gm and Houstn gm (which we won anyway) he has played well.

We have to stay healthy and get that run D fixed. IMO if we do that we can beat anyone including the Patriots.

Thanks for the response. My issue I have with your response is the fact that Alex fans pointing at his stats are doing exactly what some of us do when our team carries Alex to a regular season win, but the opposite.

Alex has 185 yards, 0 TDs and we hear from the Alex crowd that we won the game, so stats are irrelevant.

Then, when we lose a playoff game and Alex plays really, really well (Colts game), we have to hear how well Alex played and are directed to look at his statistics. Its very contradictory.

This is why I personally, NEVER use winning percentage to judge how good or bad a QB is. To me, it is one of the more brainless ways one could analyze QB play.

[BlackOp]

Since you appear to be one of the more level headed Smith enthusiasts, can you answer me something? Smith fans constantly bring up regular season record in attempt to prove he is better than others think.

So why is it that when said others bring up his playoff record, Smith fans stick their fingers in their ears and yell la la la la? I mean, Smith fans claim that winning trumps everything. So why is it that when playoffs are brought up, winning is ignored?

Asking for 95% of Chiefs fans.

Reid should be tarred and feathered for how he managed the second half of the Indy meltdown. You cant do much when Berry forces a fumble and the ball magically bounces back to Luck... and he dives for a TD. KC was a MASH unit... lost Charles, then Davis broke his leg...Houston went down and so did Flowers. Smith had one of the best postseason games in NFL history..that loss wasnt on him.

Patriots game...major key injuries, Davis' critical fumble, Berry getting schooled by Gronk. Hali dropped an INT that hit him in the hands...and god awful clock management. Controllable mistakes made the difference...Patriots didn't make mistakes.

Steelers...7 drops by WRs, Smith missing Hill on a sure TD, Kelce drop, Refs calling the first holding penalty of the 2nd half to remove points...having your starting run defense on IR against Bell.

The repeating theme is Chiefs have had some of their best players out during the post-season...and they make critical mistakes at the worst time.

[penbrook]

SiriusXM NFL Radio @SiriusXMNFL
Alex Smith on @PatrickMahomes5: Really talented and he is good. Been nice to be in camp with him and get to know him on a real level.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Thanks for the response. My issue I have with your response is the fact that Alex fans pointing at his stats are doing exactly what some of us do when our team carries Alex to a regular season win, but the opposite.

Alex has 185 yards, 0 TDs and we hear from the Alex crowd that we won the game, so stats are irrelevant.

Then, when we lose a playoff game and Alex plays really, really well (Colts game), we have to hear how well Alex played and are directed to look at his statistics. Its very contradictory.

This is why I personally, NEVER use winning percentage to judge how good or bad a QB is. To me, it is one of the more brainless ways one could analyze QB play.

That's a fair response. There's a variety of factors but generally if you are a bad QB there is no way you are going to put consecutive winning seasons together like Alex Smith has the past, what is 6 seasons now? Maybe one fluke season but eventually teams will catch on to your style and shut you down. That has not happened with Alex.

The reason I use W-L with Alex is because I can tell just by his interviews that he uses a style that he knows works for him and tends to do enough to win and that is it. He doesn't care about stats.

He plays it safe and doesn't make the big mistake. If he needs to be more aggressive he will, particularly in clutch time. But in general he plays not to make the big mistake which when you combine with a good defense makes Alex Smith led teams pretty hard to beat.

I always point to Alex quote on Cam

"This is the honest truth: I could absolutely care less on yards per game," Smith said. "I think that's a totally overblown stat. Because if you're losing games in the second half, guess what? You're like the Carolina Panthers and you're going no-huddle the entire second half and, yeah, Cam Newton threw for a lot of 300-yard games, that's great. You're not winning, though."

Obviously Alex went a little overboard but you can tell that he isn't a gunslinger because his style is what he feels is most effective for him and it clearly works based on his W-L record with us.

[penbrook]

That's a fair response. There's a variety of factors but generally if you are a bad QB there is no way you are going to put consecutive winning seasons together like Alex Smith has the past, what is 6 seasons now? Maybe one fluke season but eventually teams will catch on to your style and shut you down. That has not happened with Alex.

The reason I use W-L with Alex is because I can tell just by his interviews that he uses a style that he knows works for him and tends to do enough to win and that is it. He doesn't care about stats.

He plays it safe and doesn't make the big mistake. If he needs to be more aggressive he will, particularly in clutch time. But in general he plays not to make the big mistake which when you combine with a good defense makes Alex Smith led teams pretty hard to beat.

I always point to Alex quote on Cam

"This is the honest truth: I could absolutely care less on yards per game," Smith said. "I think that's a totally overblown stat. Because if you're losing games in the second half, guess what? You're like the Carolina Panthers and you're going no-huddle the entire second half and, yeah, Cam Newton threw for a lot of 300-yard games, that's great. You're not winning, though."

Obviously Alex went a little overboard but you can tell that he isn't a gunslinger because his style is what he feels is most effective for him and it clearly works based on his W-L record with us.

I would take Smitty over Cam

[PAChiefsGuy]

You know what else is bad luck? The Big Ben INT in the playoff gm, if that pass does not get tipped it's probably a pick 6.

Berry read the play perfectly and was ready to make a jump on it and take it to the house. And we all know Berry is probably the best in the NFL at pick 6s...

Oh that's Chiefs luck! Skip to 2:42 you can see it

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[rico]

That's a fair response. There's a variety of factors but generally if you are a bad QB there is no way you are going to put consecutive winning seasons together like Alex Smith has the past, what is 6 seasons now? Maybe one fluke season but eventually teams will catch on to your style and shut you down. That has not happened with Alex.

The reason I use W-L with Alex is because I can tell just by his interviews that he uses a style that he knows works for him and tends to do enough to win and that is it. He doesn't care about stats.

He plays it safe and doesn't make the big mistake. If he needs to be more aggressive he will, particularly in clutch time. But in general he plays not to make the big mistake which when you combine with a good defense makes Alex Smith led teams pretty hard to beat.

I always point to Alex quote on Cam

"This is the honest truth: I could absolutely care less on yards per game," Smith said. "I think that's a totally overblown stat. Because if you're losing games in the second half, guess what? You're like the Carolina Panthers and you're going no-huddle the entire second half and, yeah, Cam Newton threw for a lot of 300-yard games, that's great. You're not winning, though."

Obviously Alex went a little overboard but you can tell that he isn't a gunslinger because his style is what he feels is most effective for him and it clearly works based on his W-L record with us.

Super Bowl appearances for Cam: 1 in 6 seasons.

Super Bowl appearances for Alex: ZERO in 11 seasons!!!! 0!!! Zilch!!! Freaking ZERO!!!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/Zero-Split.jpg/1200px-Zero-Split.jpg

"Hey, is that a piece of shit coated with white chocolate?!! No, it's a metaphor for Alex Smith!!! A "Shitty" looking Zero candy bar!!!"

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Alex 'All I Do Is Win' Smith

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GettyImages-602994960.0.jpg

Is that Alex Smith or Damon Huard? I can't tell.