Eric Berry didn't even tear the Achilles on the same heel that was bothering him

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Thought this was very significant, just read this story from Terez Paylor that states Berry tore his left Achilles tendon. The heel that was bothering him in training camp and back in January was his right heel.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article172336702.html

He [Terrell] will now take the roster spot of Berry, who ruptured his left Achilles tendon in the Chiefs’ season-opening win over New England. Berry, interesting enough, had been dealing with a sore right Achilles throughout camp.

Wow. Sounds like it may have been an overcompensation injury then.

[OldSchool]

Yeah, possibly.

[BWillie]

Pretty hard to come out of cancer treatment, even years later and not be injury prone. That shit takes alot out of a man.

[Hammock Parties]

His body is a wreck, honestly. He's taken a shitload of punishment in his college and pro careers.

I really think he is just about done being an elite player.

[bigjosh]

His body is a wreck, honestly. He's taken a shitload of punishment in his college and pro careers.

I really think he is just about done being an elite player.

Im not going to say you are wrong, but i really hope you are wrong. That dude was one of the only reasons this team was watchable in the dark days.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I just want the guy to be here and contribute to winning a Super Bowl. If any player deserves it, its Berry.

[DaneMcCloud]

Well, that's not good.

[BryanBusby]

oh hell

[TrebMaxx]

Berry can still be a leader on the sidelines and I bet he will be.

[Chiefspants]

His body is a wreck, honestly. He's taken a shitload of punishment in his college and pro careers.

I really think he is just about done being an elite player.

Maybe obvious troll, but the fact that he was still playing at an elite level gives me hope that this time off will help his body heal.

Remember, he came back the season directly AFTER having cancer. He likely never had the time he needed to recover.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It's a long-shot but Berry should do the right thing in the offseason, re-structure that contract and help the team out. Dorsey was throwing around bags of cash in the offseason like a drunk Jamaal Charles at a strip club.

[TEX]

His body is a wreck, honestly. He's taken a shitload of punishment in his college and pro careers.

I really think he is just about done being an elite player.

DUMB.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

His body has aged from the chemotherapy. what a 35 year old experiences in the aging process, is what we are seeing him go thru as a 28 year old.

[Titty Meat]

His body is a wreck, honestly. He's taken a shitload of punishment in his college and pro careers.

I really think he is just about done being an elite player.

Any proof? He's played the best in his career the past few yeaes.

[Baby Lee]

His body is a wreck, honestly. He's taken a shitload of punishment in his college and pro careers.

I really think he is just about done being an elite player.

You truly are doing the Lord's work. :thumb:

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Any proof? He's played the best in his career the past few yeaes.

Honestly, Berry was medicore in a lot of games last season but he was clutch/elite in a handful of important ones which is what people only want to remember. His 2015 season was practically forgettable.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Generational safeties have typically played great into their early to mid 30s. I would never bet against Berry. He's got a lot in the tank.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Honestly, Berry was medicore in a lot of games last season but he was clutch/elite in a handful of important ones which is what people only want to remember. His 2015 season was practically forgettable.

The guy routinely was the main factor in our defense shutting down tight ends.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I grow old of people acting like he's Earl Thomas. He's nowhere near as consistent as Earl. And he sure shouldn't have been paid like he is.

Take off the homer glasses, folks.

His performance on Thursday was probably his best game outside of the Falcons game last season. Which surprised me considering he got his ass handed to him in that playoff game in Foxboro 20 months ago.

I can't count many blunders that no one wants to talk about. The one that upset me the most was not recognizing Houston on an island against Antonio Brown. Or how he left the middle field open for Delanie Walker, twice playing off more than 20 yards from where he needed to be, on the final drive to allow the Titans to hit the game winner on us.

[RunKC]

I just want the guy to be here and contribute to winning a Super Bowl. If any player deserves it, its DJ.

Fixed

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I grow old of people acting like he's Earl Thomas. He's nowhere near as consistent as Earl. And he sure shouldn't have been paid like he is.

Take off the homer glasses, folks.

His performance on Thursday was probably his best game outside of the Falcons game last season. Which surprised me considering he got his ass handed to him in that playoff game in Foxboro 20 months ago.

He's not Earl Thomas because they don't play the same roles.. no way in hell Thomas can man up the best tight ends in the league like EB does consistently. No f**kin' way.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Fixed
Yeah.... can't go wrong there

[Chiefspants]

I grow old of people acting like he's Earl Thomas. He's nowhere near as consistent as Earl. And he sure shouldn't have been paid like he is.

Take off the homer glasses, folks.

His performance on Thursday was probably his best game outside of the Falcons game last season. Which surprised me considering he got his ass handed to him in that playoff game in Foxboro 20 months ago.

I can't count many blunders that no one wants to talk about. The one that upset me the most was not recognizing Houston on an island against Antonio Brown. Or how he left the middle field open for Delanie Walker, twice playing off more than 20 yards from where he needed to be, on the final drive to allow the Titans to hit the game winner on us.

HE'S NOT RAY LEWIS GUYS SO HE DESERVES LIKE $5 A YEAR.

[penbrook]

I would of said DJ and Tamba deserve it but fuck Tamba and his drama queen shit. DJ than Mr MVP Colquitt.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Does anyone see Berry? Walker makes that catch right at the FG target line and Berry was still somehow 10-15 yards away from the ball. Situational awareness fail.

https://image.ibb.co/mJXb9F/Whereis_Berry.png

[Chiefspants]

Does anyone see Berry? Walker makes that catch right at the FG target line and Berry was still somehow 10-15 yards away from the ball. Situational awareness fail.

https://image.ibb.co/mJXb9F/Whereis_Berry.png

Are we isolating single plays now?

How did Alex do in the red zone in that one?

[ThaVirus]

Earl Thomas has never allowed a big gain. Ever.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

He's not Earl Thomas because they don't play the same roles.. no way in hell Thomas can man up the best tight ends in the league like EB does consistently. No f**kin' way.

Earl Thomas is a Free Safety, are you ignoring his elite level of play for the last 5 years? No GM is taking Berry over Thomas. No one.

[penbrook]

Earl Thomas has never allowed a big gain. Ever.

ROFL

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Tigger, that is fucking retarded

[penbrook]

Earl Thomas is a Free Safety, are you ignoring his elite level of play for the last 5 years? No GM is taking Berry over Thomas. No one.

The dedication to the game Berry has Thomas beat. Berry came back from cancer and was better than ever. Thomas broke his leg and entertained Retirement

[NJChiefsFan]

Are we isolating single plays now?

How did Alex do in the red zone in that one?

If it was a bad play for Alex you need to remember "it's a team game."

If it was a good play for Alex you need to remember those results are all on him.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Earl Thomas is a Free Safety, are you ignoring his elite level of play for the last 5 years? No GM is taking Berry over Thomas. No one.

My point is that Earl is strictly a FS while Berry does everything. He can play single high. He can rove in the middle (see ATL pick-six). He can man up any position, especially TEs. He could play linebacker better than most in the NFL.

You have no idea who a GM would take. That's all scheme dependent. Personally, I'll take the guy who is far more versatile. It's Berry.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

https://image.ibb.co/npUTOa/Whereis_Berry_Antonio_Brown.png

Someone please tell me how on 3rd and 10 as a FREE SAFETY you don't have your eyes on Antonio Brown. especially when god damn justin houston has moved out wide to protect him.

I'll wait.

[RunKC]

Does anyone see Berry? Walker makes that catch right at the FG target line and Berry was still somehow 10-15 yards away from the ball. Situational awareness fail.

https://image.ibb.co/mJXb9F/Whereis_Berry.png

That play was on Parker, not Berry. God you're stupid

[penbrook]

https://image.ibb.co/npUTOa/Whereis_Berry_Antonio_Brown.png

Someone please tell me how on 3rd and 10 as a FREE SAFETY you don't have your eyes on Antonio Brown. especially when god damn justin houston has moved out wide to protect him.

I'll wait.

https://image.ibb.co/npUTOa/Whereis_Berry_Antonio_Brown.png

Berry is a SS!!

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

The dedication to the game Berry has Thomas beat. Berry came back from cancer and was better than ever. Thomas broke his leg and entertained Retirement

Berry came back from cancer better than ever?
Child. Please.

His best seasons were the years immediately after the draft.

[Tombstone RJ]

Bummer for you guys, Berry was dominant in that win. Injuries suck.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Berry came back from cancer better than ever?
Child. Please.

His best seasons were the years immediately after the draft.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

THAT is easily one of your dumbest quotes to date on here. Wow.

[penbrook]

Berry came back from cancer better than ever?
Child. Please.

His best seasons were the years immediately after the draft.

Don't know if serious or just trolling

[BWillie]

LMAO LMAO LMAO

THAT is easily one of your dumbest quotes to date on here. Wow.

Not really. Makes sense. It's just an uncomfortable reality.

[Nickhead]

if anything, berry put additional strain on his good leg to compensate for the heel, therefore overworking and tearing the achilles. :D

[penbrook]

if anything, berry put additional strain on his good leg to compensate for the heel, therefore overworking and tearing the achilles. :D

At least his heel and Achilles will be 100% next season

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Not really. Makes sense. It's just an uncomfortable reality.

Berry was clearly a better player in '15 and '16 than he ever was before. Not that he was bad before, but he definitely wasn't as good.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Berry is a SS!!


No. He transitioned to the Free Safety role to give Parker the SS position.
Although, Sutton doesn't employ a traditional 3-4 scheme, he's constantly changing up looks and loves his Dime package with Sorensen as his third safety.

[penbrook]

Berry was clearly a better player in '15 and '16 than he ever was before. Not that he was bad before, but he definitely wasn't as good.

Yep he was named All Pro in both those years. And All Pros are what matters not Pro bowls.

[Hammock Parties]

That dude was one of the only reasons this team was watchable in the dark days.

Not really.

He was drafted in 2010 and the Chiefs were good that year.

In 2011 he gets hurt. 2012 I don't think he was quite right and the Chiefs sucked ass.

2013 to present the Chiefs have been good and Berry has been kicking ass most of that time.

When Berry is around and playing like Berry the Chiefs don't have dark days.

I really think he is the Chiefs MVP.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

My point is that Earl is strictly a FS while Berry does everything. He can play single high. He can rove in the middle (see ATL pick-six). He can man up any position, especially TEs. He could play linebacker better than most in the NFL.

You have no idea who a GM would take. That's all scheme dependent. Personally, I'll take the guy who is far more versatile. It's Berry.

Berry is a jack of all trades but in a traditional vanilla scheme or a cover 2, Earl Thomas wins. Hands down. Sutton's creativity can make Berry look elite but also a dud at times.

[Hammock Parties]

I grow old of people acting like he's Earl Thomas. He's nowhere near as consistent as Earl. And he sure shouldn't have been paid like he is.

Take off the homer glasses, folks.

His performance on Thursday was probably his best game outside of the Falcons game last season. Which surprised me considering he got his ass handed to him in that playoff game in Foxboro 20 months ago.

I can't count many blunders that no one wants to talk about. The one that upset me the most was not recognizing Houston on an island against Antonio Brown. Or how he left the middle field open for Delanie Walker, twice playing off more than 20 yards from where he needed to be, on the final drive to allow the Titans to hit the game winner on us.

Tiger is now trolling an Eric Berry thread two days after a season-ending injury.

Uh, mods?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

That play was on Parker, not Berry. God you're stupid

Absolutely not. Berry should be the guy to intervene on any inside-breaking route from his position.

[penbrook]

Tiger is a Alex Smith homer but a Berry hater hmm

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Tiger is now trolling an Eric Berry thread two days after a season-ending injury.

Uh, mods?

Go **** yourself. you were the one trolling the GDT.
He's a homer! -> troll
He's being objective and provides facts and debunks this myth that EB is a SS -> trolling

This is football talk, step aside and make your gifs, child.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Tiger is a Alex Smith homer but a Berry hater hmm

I just said he played one of his best games of the season. Because I'm not on his **** calling him the ultimatest safety to grace planet earth doesn't make me a hater. Dumbass. Do you want to explain the Steelers coverage blunder or will you concede he messed up as a FREE safety?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Berry was clearly a better player in '15 and '16 than he ever was before. Not that he was bad before, but he definitely wasn't as good.

I'd take his 2010/13 over his last 2 seasons. But that's just my opinion.

[RunKC]

Absolutely not. Berry should be the guy to intervene on any inside-breaking route from his position.

Yup you're football stupid.

Defensive alignment is clearly single high and there are 4 receivers. Here's a newsflash: our DC likes to play man coverage. A lot.

[penbrook]

I'd take his 2010/13 over his last 2 seasons. But that's just my opinion.

The All Pro awards seem to disagree with you

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

The All Pro awards seem to disagree with you

The same All-pro team Earl Thomas made 4 times?

[Chiefspants]

I'd take his 2010/13 over his last 2 seasons. But that's just my opinion.

This sounds liek the analysis of someone who didn't watch the team in 2010.

[Pants]

His body is a wreck, honestly. He's taken a shitload of punishment in his college and pro careers.

I really think he is just about done being an elite player.

I think we are actually on the cusp of seeing elite athletes maintain their peaks for much longer.

The advancement in therapies and treatments in the last couple of years has made some huge leaps.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

This sounds liek the analysis of someone who didn't watch the team in 2010.

If I could have Eric Berry in his traditional strong safety role (clearly, EB can handle tight ends) and put any average or above average joe at Free Safety, I would take it in a heart beat. And this board knows I love me some Ron Parker.

The consistency is just not there in his current role.

[kcchiefsus]

We've had really shitty luck with signing defenders to huge contracts and them having season ending injuries and not being able to live up to the contract.

[kcxiv]

Pretty hard to come out of cancer treatment, even years later and not be injury prone. That shit takes alot out of a man.

anyone can tear their achillies by simply walking up stairs. It goes when it goes.

[MeatRock]

Agree with OP.
Kinda seems like Berry might have been overcompensating for the bum heel a bit with the other leg after hearing that news. Sucks!

[Nickhead]

if anything, berry put additional strain on his good leg to compensate for the heel, therefore overworking and tearing the achilles. :D

Agree with OP.
Kinda seems like Berry might have been overcompensating for the bum heel a bit with the other leg after hearing that news. Sucks!

:thumb:

[Cornstock]

Berry's greatest attribute is, and always will be his heart and motor. It's Ray Lewis-esque. He simply wants it more than the other guy. That kind of drive will help him play well as his body is failing him.

DJ is similar in that regard. Despite multiple setback, if he mentally wants to continue, he will. An average man would have thrown in the towel after a season ending injury. And then cancer. Coming back twice, and going to be 3 times, his constitution is that of a hall of famer.

He just needs his body to hold up to reach that level.

[ThaVirus]

Berry came back from cancer better than ever?
Child. Please.

His best seasons were the years immediately after the draft.

You couldn't be more wrong and that's not surprising.

[penbrook]

Btw DJ Was second on the team with 8 tackles. Parker led the team with 11

[OldSchool]

Berry's greatest attribute is, and always will be his heart and motor. It's Ray Lewis-esque. He simply wants it more than the other guy. That kind of drive will help him play well as his body is failing him.

DJ is similar in that regard. Despite multiple setback, if he mentally wants to continue, he will. An average man would have thrown in the towel after a season ending injury. And then cancer. Coming back twice, and going to be 3 times, his constitution is that of a hall of famer.

He just needs his body to hold up to reach that level.
Always saw him as the next Brian Dawkins in that respect, the heart of a defense from the safety position.

[TimBone]

I mean...we could ban Tiger from the thread...but he just sounds so silly. Why bother?

[threebag]

Tiger is now trolling an Eric Berry thread two days after a season-ending injury.

Uh, mods?

GTFO you dumb fucking piece of troll shit. You need flushed more than anyone even dickscrammedin

[PAChiefsGuy]

GTFO you dumb ****ing piece of troll shit. You need flushed more than anyone even dickscrammedin

Agreed. The guy talks about how he hopes Smitty gets hurt before the season starts and now he wants to act all holy. F*** him.

[Sandy Vagina]

If it was a bad play for Alex you need to remember "it's a team game."

If it was a good play for Alex you need to remember those results are all on him.

wtf are u doing? are u kidding me? You too? Aw man, this place is really ****ed if even the folks like you are getting this way. Really disappointing. :facepalm:

[Sandy Vagina]

I just said he played one of his best games of the season. Because I'm not on his **** calling him the ultimatest safety to grace planet earth doesn't make me a hater. Dumbass. Do you want to explain the Steelers coverage blunder or will you concede he messed up as a FREE safety?

I hear what you're saying, and you are not ENTIRELY wrong... but you ARE wrong to think you can say anything like this about Berry and not have holy hell reign down upon you. Not with Berry being Berry, AND being badly injured so recently.

It's just not a battle worth fighting, bro.

[BossChief]

I'd take his 2010/13 over his last 2 seasons. But that's just my opinion.

Proof of exactly how bad at this you truly are.

Just, wow.

Berrys 2016 was one of the best seasons for a safety in the history of the league.

[SAUTO]

wtf are u doing? are u kidding me? You too? Aw man, this place is really ****ed if even the folks like you are getting this way. Really disappointing. :facepalm:

He's spot on though.

[The Bad Guy]

It's a long-shot but Berry should do the right thing in the offseason, re-structure that contract and help the team out. Dorsey was throwing around bags of cash in the offseason like a drunk Jamaal Charles at a strip club.

It's also fucking stupid.

"Do the right thing".

That's not the right thing, you asshole.

[The Bad Guy]

If you'd take Berry's 10-13 seasons over the last 2, this proves that you really truly are fucking as dumb as everyone has said you were for years.

You have zero idea what you're watching when you're watching football.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

If you'd take Berry's 10-13 seasons over the last 2, this proves that you really truly are ****ing as dumb as everyone has said you were for years.

You have zero idea what you're watching when you're watching football.

Proof of exactly how bad at this you truly are.

Just, wow.

Berrys 2016 was one of the best seasons for a safety in the history of the league.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eric-weddle-ranked-as-nfls-best-safety-by-pro-football-focus/
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2016-nfl-season
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000833291/article/2017-allpro-team-projections
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-pff-2016-midseason-awards

2016 was his best season of the last 3 years, sure. But did you even watch football in 2016? Eric Weddle??? Landon Collins?? Earl Thomas is easily top 40 overall in the league when his leg isn't broken.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Unless his stride looked completely uneven it is highly doubtful he was compensating for his opposite achilles leading to this injury.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I've read studies before done on NBA players and the mean age of achilles injury is something close to around 30. haven't come across anything on NFL players tho but I'm sure someone has aggregated the data.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

I mean...we could ban Tiger from the thread...but he just sounds so silly. Why bother?

So offering perspective is being silly? It's clear people on CP know very little about players outside of the Chiefs (when they aren't too busy confusing Hunts and realizing Chase Daniel's' is not even the roster). One poster just said Eric is a SS when he's only in the box 20% of the time. What the hell are these people watching?

It's amazing how disconnected posters are. Or how they've forgotten about the Eric Berry thread where many posters were saying he got overpaid on his new contract.

[ThaVirus]

Berry in 2010 was generally just flashing potential. He looked great for a rookie safety but his coverage skills left a lot to be desired. Antonio Gates made him his bitch whenever we played the Chargers. And he didn't even record his first INT until like week 12 or something, IIRC.

2016 Berry was a ****ing monster in the run game and in pass coverage. He just locked Gronk down for an entire game and no one on the team lays wood like he does.

[RunKC]

If there was ever a time for Berry to be hurt due to financial, it's this year. He's only counting $5 million to the cap.

We can't get out of Berry's contract until 2021. Dorsey messed that contract up as well.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Berry in 2010 was generally just flashing potential. He looked great for a rookie safety but his coverage skills left a lot to be desired. Antonio Gates made him his bitch whenever we played the Chargers. And he didn't even record his first INT until like week 12 or something, IIRC.

2016 Berry was a ****ing monster in the run game and in pass coverage. He just locked Gronk down for an entire game and no one on the team lays wood like he does.

I argue he had an equally bad game as Smith in the Pittsburgh game. He was also abused in the Pats game in 2016. Thursday night was a special performance by him.

[The Bad Guy]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eric-weddle-ranked-as-nfls-best-safety-by-pro-football-focus/
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2016-nfl-season
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000833291/article/2017-allpro-team-projections
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-pff-2016-midseason-awards

2016 was his best season of the last 3 years, sure. But did you even watch football in 2016? Eric Weddle??? Landon Collins?? Earl Thomas is easily top 40 overall in the league when his leg isn't broken.

How about you use your eyes you dumb bastard? This has NOTHING to do with other players. You compared Berry to himself in 2010-2013 and the last 2.

I'm not taking any safety over Eric Berry the last 2 years. I don't need your bullshit links - I watch football. It's obvious you know nothing of what you're watching.

[ThaVirus]

If there was ever a time for Berry to be hurt due to financial, it's this year. He's only counting $5 million to the cap.

We can't get out of Berry's contract until 2021. Dorsey messed that contract up as well.

What should he have done differently?

[Rausch]

If there was ever a time for Berry to be hurt due to financial, it's this year. He's only counting $5 million to the cap.

We can't get out of Berry's contract until 2021. Dorsey messed that contract up as well.

Do IR players count against the cap?

I know they still get paid but doesn't the team get a pro-rated cap number after a guy is placed on IR?...

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

What should he have done differently?

He should have locked Berry and Houston much much earlier than he did. And you know, not show his hand by going to the media saying they were going to "do everything possible to keep him a Chief for life". Hard to drive negotiations when you've given his agent the keys to the car.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

How about you use your eyes you dumb bastard? This has NOTHING to do with other players. You compared Berry to himself in 2010-2013 and the last 2.

I'm not taking any safety over Eric Berry the last 2 years. I don't need your bullshit links - I watch football. It's obvious you know nothing of what you're watching.

Expert opinion versus your homer glasses? Got it.

Yes, the guy who predicted Kareem would be an absolute beast in the NFL has no idea what he's talking about.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=12848276&postcount=157
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=12883931&postcount=320

ROFL