****Official Chiefs clip the Eagles media dump thread****

[Hammock Parties]

May as well just do one of these every week, fam.


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[Easy 6]

Sasquatch is such a beast

Gif up Sorensen doing his Superman impression

[JoeyChuckles]

Attendance in this thread is on par with the Chargers game.

[Hammock Parties]

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[Easy 6]

That was so awesome, didnt get the sack but it definitely affected the throw

[Hammock Parties]

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[TimBone]

Can we get Smith's awesome throw to Conley up the right sideline?

[Hammock Parties]

Can we get Smith's awesome throw to Conley up the right sideline?

here you go

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[KChiefs1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ82a5UUEAEw06C.jpg



Sweet dreams

[RINGLEADER]

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[RINGLEADER]

Not sure this is the best angle...

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[eDave]

NSFW language

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[GayFrogs]

NSFW language

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I was looking forward to this dude's take. Nice screencap by the way ROFL

[GayFrogs]

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ROFL

[Bowser]

LMAO

[TimBone]

here you go

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Weak

[Hammock Parties]

Weak

you can't see it?

looks good to me

[St. Patty's Fire]

you can't see it?

looks good to me

Can't see it either

[CupidStunt]

NSFW language

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[Strongside]

That eagles fan is my spirit animal

[R8RFAN]

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[displacedinMN]

Dude, how pathetic are you that you have to film yourself watching a game and swear all the time???? Is this a thing????

Kill me now

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Can we get Smith's awesome throw to Conley up the right sideline?

That was a clutch pass 35 yard pass to get into the red zone and eventually getting Hunt that TD

[GayFrogs]

Dude, how pathetic are you that you have to film yourself watching a game and swear all the time???? Is this a thing????

Kill me now

Nothing pathetic about 218k subscribers.

[displacedinMN]

Nothing pathetic about 218k subscribers.

Does it make him money?

[thabear04]

Didn't see the game was attending my best friend funeral but I saw the last 6 minutes glad the Chiefs won.

[ThaVirus]

Didn't see the game was attending my best friend funeral but I saw the last 6 minutes glad the Chiefs won.

Sorry about your friend, bud.

[DaFace]

Does it make him money?Almost certainly, yes.

[Marcellus]

Can you gif up the Dee Ford one handed sack?

[DJ's left nut]

How do you defend that friggen shuttle pass, man?

That looks like Kelce's pulling across the formation on an option run. It freezes those LBers because they have to worry about the possibility of Smith/Hunt (or Hill on occasion) bouncing it out wide.

It's just a brutal short-yardage play. I don't know how you keep them from picking up 3-5 yards easily if its executed properly. And if things break right it's a 20 yarder.

Just a nasty little wrinkle that Reid has come up with. I don't recall seeing that last year; this year they've run it about 5 times and gotten good yardage and/or a 3rd down conversion each time.

And the instant a team starts to sell out to stop it, Smith keeps that ball or pitches it out wide for 15+.

It's a hell of a lot more effective than those speed bootlegs with a single guy out in the pattern that they ran 2-3 times yesterday, that's for sure.

[displacedinMN]

Almost certainly, yes.

that is sad

[Frosty]

How do you defend that friggen shuttle pass, man?

The shovel pass is tough too.



:)

[Quesadilla Joe]

Some of Brian Baldinger's thoughts the Chiefs/Eagles game...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/stonecoldjones_">@stonecoldjones_</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs">@chiefs</a> can be a dominant force. His technique here is must watch trench warfare. Only in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/BbgoB8tHHD">pic.twitter.com/BbgoB8tHHD</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909783643861798912">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The left guard had a rough day at the office Sunday, and he clearly is struggling. AND the Chiefs knew he was struggling. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/LMTpH9KrMa">pic.twitter.com/LMTpH9KrMa</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909765440645279744">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Eagles">@Eagles</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JasonKelce?src=hash">#JasonKelce</a> along with his brothers did some good things. Never as bad, never as good <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/W53Ov2Joe8">pic.twitter.com/W53Ov2Joe8</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909781751500767232">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Eagles">@Eagles</a> play design has good intentions; but poor execution. The OL has to perform better. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/D1JHdVGSy1">pic.twitter.com/D1JHdVGSy1</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909786873475813376">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Eagles">@Eagles</a> OL was counted on to be a strength; the breakdowns are becoming inexcusable. Here is an example. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/00Q14xtjNz">pic.twitter.com/00Q14xtjNz</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909789024554029057">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Eagles">@eagles</a> better get to work TODAY to begin fixing their issues. You, the fan, be the coach and critic on this play. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/7Fl2OvhYAa">pic.twitter.com/7Fl2OvhYAa</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909790680465240065">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A lot of things to like about this play including <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoryClement?src=hash">#CoryClement</a> in the backfield except the finish. Carson needs help <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/4jonzw7UN0">pic.twitter.com/4jonzw7UN0</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909794016027344899">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Eagles">@Eagles</a> had a perfect play dialed up on 3-12, poorly executed and the game changed <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/d2nsqZ3Apu">pic.twitter.com/d2nsqZ3Apu</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909801088735481861">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[DaFace]

that is sad

He's not likely getting rich, but YouTube can be a nice, money-generating hobby if you are entertaining. According to this page (https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/eatdatpussy445), he's got almost 36 million views historically. It's not a straightforward calculation, but YouTube pays out somewhere in the vicinity of $2.50 per thousand views, so in theory he could have made around $90k through YouTube (though the actual payout varies widely).

Of course, that's over 1738 videos, so that's only like $50/video. Not a ton, but not chump change either.

[O.city]

Just saw the video of the Mitchell fuck up.

Good lord man. What the hell was that?

[saphojunkie]

Need a gif of that kick ass run by Hunt down the right sideline.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Some of Brian Baldinger's thoughts the Chiefs/Eagles game...

[SPOILER]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/stonecoldjones_">@stonecoldjones_</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs">@chiefs</a> can be a dominant force. His technique here is must watch trench warfare. Only in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baldybreakdowns?src=hash">#baldybreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/BbgoB8tHHD">pic.twitter.com/BbgoB8tHHD</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/909783643861798912">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Holy crap, that first one with Chris Jones throwing the guard around like a rag doll...I don't think I've ever seen that kind of dominance before...

[RunKC]

https://mobile.twitter.com/fduffy3/status/910198211121467392

Alex is responsible for this sack. Had Albert Wilson open for at least a 5 yard gain. Hill was right behind the LB in the middle, but don't think Alex saw him.

[Direckshun]

That was so awesome, didnt get the sack but it definitely affected the throw

Wentz was 2/10 for 10 yards when under pressure.

[Direckshun]

Give me the Ford sack, Clay. I must see it again. :D

Thank you for the great work.

[DJ's left nut]

https://mobile.twitter.com/fduffy3/status/910198211121467392

Alex is responsible for this sack. Had Albert Wilson open for at least a 5 yard gain. Hill was right behind the LB in the middle, but don't think Alex saw him.

Looks like he was trying to look off the LBs to get the space to hit Hill.

Not sure what the down/distance was there, but he looked like he never had any interest in taking the dump. His eyes flicker down to Wilson but he's clearly hoping that space clears to hit Hill and it just didn't happen. He clearly expected Graham to crash on Wilson when he looked down and when he looks up to locate Hill, he sees that Graham didn't bite so he had nowhere to go.

That's another 'the other guy gets paid to beat you' moments. Tip your cap to the LBs for not biting on the underneath hard enough to allow Smith to do what he wanted to do there.

You can't get pissed at Alex for throwing too many checkdowns and then criticize him there - he's trying to do exactly what people ask for there and use his eyes/progressions to open up a bigger play. It just didn't come together.

[Hammock Parties]

Ok, here's the deep ball.

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Looks like a clear overthrow from Smith, and he should have led him more to the middle of the field. He made that catch very, very difficult. I don't see Reek slowing up.

I'll give credit to Smith for not taking a very easy checkdown, though.

[DaFace]

Even then, that's a tough throw, and Reek misjudged it a bit. If he'd run a tiny bit flatter of a route, he might have gotten there.

Regardless, that's a tough throw and catch, and you have to take shots here and there.

[DJ's left nut]

Even then, that's a tough throw, and Reek misjudged it a bit. If he'd run a tiny bit flatter of a route, he might have gotten there.

Regardless, that's a tough throw and catch, and you have to take shots here and there.

From the 'Andy SB' thread...

The back end zone view is a good one - I don't think it's a miss as much as it is just a 'shit happens' moment on a throw. Hill drifted inside on the route (you can see him angling in) and Smith puts it right over where his inside shoulder would be on a true vertical.

Look at where Hill's standing when Smith releases - right at in the middle of the 20 (top to bottom). He has inside position on the DB and a major speed advantage so I think Smith just put it straight out there. I think he expected Hill to flatten out at the top of the yard number. Look where it lands - virtually dead in line with where Hill was when Smith started to release and Hill got position.

If Hill isn't drifting towards the goal-post on his route, it's an easy six. But you can also see why Hill might have done that once he put the WR on his outside shoulder - buys him a little more room. Instead it added another stride to his route (explains the overthrow; the stride came after the ball was released) and why he had to make an adjustment. Hill also drifted - push play from the 21 second mark and watch Hill - there was no reason at all for his route to continue to slide towards the middle there - the CB is done. I understand why you'd take it a little deeper early in the route but by then it really does look like he doesn't realize he's angling in. That's that 'losing where he was on the field' feeling I got.

I have a hard time chalking that up to much more than 'deep passes are hard, man'. I can see why Smith would've wanted to put it a little more towards the middle - that's where the space was. But he also knows that Hill has a clean release and insane speed - there was really no cause to do so and the nearer he puts it towards the safety over the middle, the more likely he gets his guy hit. Didn't matter here, but as an operating principal you don't go towards the middle of the field if you don't have to.

Give them the tape of that play, have them discuss it and when all is said and done they'll hit that next time. That looks a whole lot like a WR and QB that just haven't quite figured each other out yet.

Thanks for the clips.

[Hammock Parties]

That's not a "true vertical," though. It's not a straight 9 route.

He puts two moves on the corner (you can't see the first one because I cut it out). He's *supposed* to break it inside.

Smith missed him.

[Hammock Parties]

Like, you can say what you want, but we've got maybe the greatest deep threat in the NFL on our team, who also happens to be an incredibly instinctive route runner.

And we've got one of the NFL's worst downfield passers during the last decade, who only hit two of those passes to Tyreek Hill last season.

I think I know where I'm assigning the blame.

[DJ's left nut]

That's not a "true vertical," though. It's not a straight 9 route.

He puts two moves on the corner (you can't see the first one because I cut it out). He's *supposed* to break it inside.

Smith missed him.

You can't make that statement at ALL.

No, it wasn't a 9, but it was a double move and a go. Why is there any reason to believe that he's supposed to run a 'meandering middle' route there? If he ran a true post, maybe I'd buy it. But 'eh, just kinda slide a little to your right as you run' isn't any kind of pass pattern I've ever seen. You don't just drift in a planned route and that's what Hill did there.

If he's supposed to break it inside, he'd have a harder break than that.

You have to run at defined angles on timing/deep pass routes. A 7 degree break from center isn't any sort of defined angle. He just drifted - you're never taught that.

[DJ's left nut]

And he does slow up a bit shortly after the 20. Remember that Hill is a 'foot fire' player in how he generates his speed, yet there his stride slows down. He doesn't gain/maintain acceleration the same way Conley does - those big long strides yet that's what he does a little there; his stride slows into almost a distance lope. Look at about the 18, right after he gets inside - that's not full tilt Hill at all. And around the 9 he picks it back up again but too late to save it.

They just weren't on the same page there. It happens.

[DJ's left nut]

Like, you can say what you want, but we've got maybe the greatest deep threat in the NFL on our team, who also happens to be an incredibly instinctive route runner.

And we've got one of the NFL's worst downfield passers during the last decade, who only hit two of those passes to Tyreek Hill last season.

I think I know where I'm assigning the blame.

So you won't critically examine the play but rather just go with your usual ad hominems. Got it.

There are clear, simple football explanations as to why your vision of this play doesn't check out. You're welcome to ignore them if you'd like.

[O.city]

It does look like he slowed a step about the 20 but I think that may be the stream?

[Hammock Parties]

So you won't critically examine the play but rather just go with your usual ad hominems. Got it.

There are clear, simple football explanations as to why your vision of this play doesn't check out. You're welcome to ignore them if you'd like.

Naw, man. C'mon.

The route is going to the inside, and Smith leads him up the field.

He just missed it. Which...is what he does.

[Hammock Parties]

If he ran a true post, maybe I'd buy it.

It's a skinny post.

[O.city]

If it's any kind of post, it was a bad route I'd think. I'm not really sure what it was

[DJ's left nut]

It's a skinny post.

Then it's a shitty skinny post. He never made a cut, he just slowly drifted. A skinny post and he'd have hammered off that left foot to create even more space there - he didn't. He rolled the hell out of it and simply never flattened out.

It looks a hell of a lot more like he just didn't run a precise route, figured it out around the 20 and couldn't get himself back on track, hence his slowing up around the 18.

Whatever it is, it's not done well. And to believe it was a skinny post you'd have to say that Smith didn't just miss by the 2 feet that the 'overthrow' appears to be, but rather by probably 5 yards or so.

Nah, I can either go with "Hill's route was imprecise so the throw missed by 2-3 feet" or "Hill ran a bad skinny post and the throw missed by 4-5 yards".

The former is far more likely.

[JakeF]

The more i watch the Chiefs vs Eagles game the more i see that Alex Smith got pounded all game.

[penguinz]

If Hill doesn't turn his head to watch for the ball at 20 yards out his run stays straight and he is in the right spot to catch the ball. At the 20 he turns his head to watch and starts drifting inside.

[DaFace]

Need a gif of that kick ass run by Hunt down the right sideline.

Found it in a rookie highlight video. Here ya go.

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[penbrook]

I have a hard time believing that Smith overthrew Hill

[Simply Red]

Just thinking and this is off-topic a little - but man - that Hunt draft pick was so incredibly done. Very good job by them. I knew he'd be something special.

[Dartgod]

Looks like the safety (23) grabbed his hammy about the time it looked like Hill was going to haul that in for a TD.

I'm not an Alexual by any means, but I'm not a hater either. It just kills me the lengths that some go to discredit him. Look there is plenty of evidence from over the years that Alex is not an elite QB. This clip is not one of them.

[threebag]

The more i watch the Chiefs vs Eagles game the more i see that Alex Smith got pounded all game.

"He had four seconds, he sucks"/:o)'s

[Easy 6]

Found it in a rookie highlight video. Here ya go.

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Good Lord, my stream must've been glitching during that little doozy

Whether it was Dorsey, Veach, or a combination of the two... we can only hope that same eagle eye for talent remains

So many young badasses have been collected in 4 short years

[milkman]

"He had four seconds, he sucks"/:o)'s

That is an idiot post.

The pass protection was fine, but Alex Smith is clearly looking to push the ball downfield more, which leads to him holding the ball longer.

The OL did it's pretty job well against a damn good defensive front, and Alex Smith did a great job of standing in the pocket, looking for plays, and making plays.

[threebag]

Go read some of Clownus's drivel

[YayMike]

That is an idiot post.

The pass protection was fine, but Alex Smith is clearly looking to push the ball downfield more, which leads to him holding the ball longer.

The OL did it's pretty job well against a damn good defensive front, and Alex Smith did a great job of standing in the pocket, looking for plays, and making plays.

This is 100% true. After rewatching the game, his eyes are downfield a hell of a lot more often than I've ever seen. With the exception of a few plays, he is going through his progressions and the first read, sometimes the second are downfield. I am okay with a few more sacks based on this.

[Hammock Parties]

That is an idiot post.

The pass protection was fine, but Alex Smith is clearly looking to push the ball downfield more, which leads to him holding the ball longer.



But on that play the deepest receiver was only 10 yards.

He still has a lot of bad habits when a receiver doesn't come immediately open.

[DJ's left nut]

But on that play the deepest receiver was only 10 yards.

He still has a lot of bad habits when a receiver doesn't come immediately open.

Seriously - what the fuck are you talking about?

His receiver didn't come immediately open. Had he dumped it to Wilson, you'd have bitched about him being the same ol' Admiral Checkdown we've had.

He did the only thing he could've done there to try to push the ball. And he doesn't control the damn routes - that was the call. He was looking to get the ball deeper down the field there and took a sack because of it.

That's EXACTLY what you're asking for and that's exactly the outcome that's going to occur on occasion because of it.

You're just mostly retarded. You do know that, right? I mean damn man, you act like he should just be taking 7 step drops and throwing it as hard as he can every other snap. That play is a play that a good, aggressive QB tries to make because often times that LB will bit and you'll get a guy free in the second level to make a catch and turn upfield for 12-15 yards. That's an easy pitch and catch if the LB just follows the QBs eyes.

And yet you still bitch. Because that's what you do.

[Hammock Parties]

His receiver didn't come immediately open.

Exactly. Hence the result of that play.

And there were no "deeper" routes on that play. The deepest man was 10 yards.

Just a dude shitting his pants in the pocket because his primary read wasn't open.

[threebag]

:facepalm: the :o)

[DJ's left nut]

Exactly. Hence the result of that play.

No, the linebacker made a good play, 'hence the result'.

The other guys get paid to play as well, champ. Nobody's ever completed 100% of their passes. There was no 'bad habit' there, he tried to move the LB with his eyes and it didn't work. Shit happens.

A bad habit would've been throwing the damn thing anyway. Instead he saw that the jig was up, looked for a running lane up the middle (there really wasn't one) so he tucked the ball and mitigated the damages.

Sometimes you just tip your cap to the other guy. It doesn't mean Smith screwed up.

[RunKC]

Seriously - what the **** are you talking about?

His receiver didn't come immediately open. Had he dumped it to Wilson, you'd have bitched about him being the same ol' Admiral Checkdown we've had.

He did the only thing he could've done there to try to push the ball. And he doesn't control the damn routes - that was the call. He was looking to get the ball deeper down the field there and took a sack because of it.

That's EXACTLY what you're asking for and that's exactly the outcome that's going to occur on occasion because of it.

You're just mostly retarded. You do know that, right? I mean damn man, you act like he should just be taking 7 step drops and throwing it as hard as he can every other snap. That play is a play that a good, aggressive QB tries to make because often times that LB will bit and you'll get a guy free in the second level to make a catch and turn upfield for 12-15 yards. That's an easy pitch and catch if the LB just follows the QBs eyes.

And yet you still bitch. Because that's what you do.

It's sad really. Clay is not objective on this subject and his opinion of being wrong on 90+% football related discussion just further proves his case.

He's just trying to push that agenda non matter what and is trying hard to get in a "win/win" situation fitting that agenda.

It's probably best for nobody to talk to Clay anymore.

[DJ's left nut]

Lord, you actually edited it to make it less intelligent.

What would you have had him do, Mr. Wizard? That was absolutely the right decision and the occasional result of a QB looking to make a play rather than take the first 3 yard dump available to him.

You're just all over the damn map. It's pretty solid evidence that you truly have no idea what you're looking at.

As though we needed any more of it.

[Hammock Parties]

No, the linebacker made a good play, 'hence the result'.

The other guys get paid to play as well, champ. Nobody's ever completed 100% of their passes. There was no 'bad habit' there, he tried to move the LB with his eyes and it didn't work. Shit happens.

A bad habit would've been throwing the damn thing anyway. Instead he saw that the jig was up, looked for a running lane up the middle (there really wasn't one) so he tucked the ball and mitigated the damages.

Sometimes you just tip your cap to the other guy. It doesn't mean Smith screwed up.

Tucked the ball? LMAO

He exposed himself for a sack when the ball should have come out much, much sooner. But his tunnel vision killed the whole fucking thing. Why act surprised and try to defend it? It's why he's been bad on third down his WHOLE FUCKING CAREER.

You are drifting back into being a Smith homer after an offseason of waking up. It's really sad.

[Hammock Parties]

What would you have had him do, Mr. Wizard?

Already explained this.

Dump it to Wilson or try to make a throw on the boundary to Conley.

Anything is better than just standing there doing the pants shitting routine before taking a sack.

Might as well have been Matthew Brennan Cassel back there.

[O.city]

If you're not gonna throw the out to Conley in the break, yo can't throw it. That's a pick 6 waiting to happen.

[O.city]

Late throws outside the number aren't really a great idea

[DJ's left nut]

Tucked the ball? LMAO

He exposed himself for a sack when the ball should have come out much, much sooner. But his tunnel vision killed the whole fucking thing. Why act surprised and try to defend it? It's why he's been bad on third down his WHOLE FUCKING CAREER.

You are drifting back into being a Smith homer after an offseason of waking up. It's really sad.

Tunnel vision? Oh for fuck's sake. He saw the open guy underneath and DIDN'T take it. He actually tried to use that open man to draw coverage over.

There was nothing 'tunnel vision' about that play. He had the right idea and the LB sniffed it out. I ask again - what was the right play there? What should he have done on a play where the whole design was to draw the LB down on the crosser to free up the middle?

And you're just buried into the same old mindless weather-vane who waits for popular opinion to emerge so you can latch onto it like grim death and then manipulate GIFs to make a point that others made far better before you. Tell me more about the greatness of Trent Green after you spent a solid year pining for Damon Huard to replace him. You just don't have the foggiest fucking idea what you're talking about.

Somehow after 100,000 posts and countless hours spent following this sport, you still lack a fundamental understanding of what is actually happening on the field. You really are like someone's middle-aged mom who has the game on in the background and then gets really excited when the fans cheer or really mad when we have to punt but has no idea why either of those things occurred.

[DJ's left nut]

Already explained this.

Dump it to Wilson or try to make a throw on the boundary to Conley.

Anything is better than just standing there doing the pants shitting routine before taking a sack.

Might as well have been Matthew Brennan Cassel back there.

Then you're just retarded.

You don't throw late and at the hashes - ever. At best you get Wilson absolutely murdered. And if you throw it to Conley at the boundary it's probably getting housed.

You want bad habits? You just named two of them - throwing an out route after the break or throwing late between the numbers are two absolutely abysmal habits and something that no QB ever will be taught to do (Mahomes won't see the field if that's something he does with regularity).

You're just spewing tripe with no basis in reality.

[DJ's left nut]

If you're not gonna throw the out to Conley in the break, yo can't throw it. That's a pick 6 waiting to happen.

Late throws outside the number aren't really a great idea

Ya don't say...

O.city's an evil dentist who gets drunk and goes and hangs out in closed bars during baseball games and even he gets it.

[Hammock Parties]

Tunnel vision? Oh for fuck's sake. He saw the open guy underneath and DIDN'T take it. He actually tried to use that open man to draw coverage over.

There was nothing 'tunnel vision' about that play.

Yes there is. He's just staring down Hill and desperately hoping a throwing lane opens up.

Complete and total tunnel vision.

The Chiefs ran the same play in New England for a first down to Reek (on the TD drive before the half) and Smith did the same thing, but it worked because the OL provided him with an ABSURD amount of time instead of just an adequate amount.

What, did you guys actually think Smith was good on third down, suddenly? That's never been true...because he does shit like this.

[O.city]

Ya don't say...

O.city's an evil dentist who gets drunk and goes and hangs out in closed bars during baseball games and even he gets it.

To be honest, I wasn't at the closed bar, I thought I was.

Easy mistake

[Hammock Parties]

At best you get Wilson absolutely murdered.


Wrong. At best, Wilson PICKS UP THE FIRST DOWN becaus he puts a move on that safety.

Dumping it there is 100% a better option than taking a sack.

You have reverted to full homer status on our QB because of Week 1, and now have blinders for a clearly pedestrian Week 2.

Like I said, sad. And you were doing so well.

[O.city]

If you're gonna throw it to Wilson, it's gotta be early. Otherwise he's getting his clock cleaned. If Wilson catches it and dives upfield he could possibly get the first down.

More likely he runs backwards for no gain.

[DJ's left nut]

Yes there is. He's just staring down Hill and desperately hoping a throwing lane opens up.

Complete and total tunnel vision.

The Chiefs ran the same play in New England for a first down to Reek (on the TD drive before the half) and Smith did the same thing, but it worked because the OL provided him with an ABSURD amount of time instead of just an adequate amount.

What, did you guys actually think Smith was good on third down, suddenly? That's never been true...because he does shit like this.

Hill was the last card in the deck, man.

Again, throwing to Wilson early would've gotten him barbecued by YOU in particular because it's a checkdown (you'd have said that the LB was getting ready to bite on Wilson to free up Hill, don't even deny it). And since the crosser was almost certainly a decoy to free up Hill, he's the 2nd read. By the time the LB doesn't bite, the 3rd ready (Conley) has finished his route and you're looking at little more than a scramble drill because the boundary just isn't there anymore.

You keep wanting to make this more than it is - I haven't convinced myself of anything regarding his long-term outlook. Smith has looked good for 4-5 game stretches and there's no reason to believe this is anything more than that - just a good stretch at the start of the year rather than the middle/end that could be nothing more than a false start.

But you still have to view each individual game and each individual play in a vacuum. In a vacuum, I don't care how his normal 3rd down conversion rate is because it's not material to this particular play and how it was run. He did everything right here.

And yet there you sit, complaining as per usual. Because you don't understand what you're watching.

[DaFace]

Clay always seems like he has at least a little bit of a point when the team is struggling. When Alex performs well, though, it becomes clear pretty quickly that he has no idea what he's talking about.

[DJ's left nut]

If you're gonna throw it to Wilson, it's gotta be early. Otherwise he's getting his clock cleaned. If Wilson catches it and dives upfield he could possibly get the first down.

More likely he runs backwards for no gain.

Exactly - gotta throw that on time or not at all.

And once Wilson (who's shockingly bad at driving upfield after the catch; not sure how I never noticed how much wasted movement he has as he catches the ball) spins the wrong way or stutter steps for no reason rather than just driving upfield and he gets brought down 3 yards short of the sticks, Clay starts going off about how Smith needed to throw Hill open or something equally inane.

It's amazing to me that Clay is calling out bad habits while simultaneously requesting that Smith have done his absolute WORST habit, which was throwing early and short of the marker on 3rd down.

[Hammock Parties]

He did everything right here.


LMAO

Well he set up the punter with that designed sack for sure. Which is good enough for some.

All part of an elite performance.

[DJ's left nut]

Clay always seems like he has at least a little bit of a point when the team is struggling. When Alex performs well, though, it becomes clear pretty quickly that he has no idea what he's talking about.

That's a good point.

It's definitely a 'stopped clock' kind of thing. He's going to bitch and moan about everything anyway and when the team isn't playing well, they fall into whatever dour claims he was going to make about them anyway.

But when they're actually doing things well, he's still bitching and moaning and trying his same old tired saws and they just don't apply at all.

And he doesn't grasp it because, as you noted, he simply has no idea what he's yammering on about.

[O.city]

Exactly - gotta throw that on time or not at all.

And once Wilson (who's shockingly bad at driving upfield after the catch; not sure how I never noticed how much wasted movement he has as he catches the ball) spins the wrong way or stutter steps for no reason rather than just driving upfield and he gets brought down 3 yards short of the sticks, Clay starts going off about how Smith needed to throw Hill open or something equally inane.

It's amazing to me that Clay is calling out bad habits while simultaneously requesting that Smith have done his absolute WORST habit, which was throwing early and short of the marker on 3rd down.

Probably.

I think smith could have stayed on Wilson a bit longer and the lb would have moved. He started to but then jumped back to hill.

I think it comes in time with experience but hill could have settled more to the MOF there to make a bigger lane

[Hammock Parties]

That's a good point.

It's definitely a 'stopped clock' kind of thing. He's going to bitch and moan about everything anyway and when the team isn't playing well, they fall into whatever dour claims he was going to make about them anyway.

But when they're actually doing things well, he's still bitching and moaning and trying his same old tired saws and they just don't apply at all.

And he doesn't grasp it because, as you noted, he simply has no idea what he's yammering on about.

This just isn't true. I wasn't like this last week.

But when the offense is crap for a half and Smith inparticular can't get the team into the end zone for 3.5 quarters, yeah I'm gonna bitch.

An entire fucking game with only two third downs converted via the pass?

Sorry, not into that.

Feel free to lower your own standards.

[Chiefnj2]

Found it in a rookie highlight video. Here ya go.

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Conley looks like he's playing a game where he is not allowed to touch an Eagle.

[DJ's left nut]

Probably.

I think smith could have stayed on Wilson a bit longer and the lb would have moved. He started to but then jumped back to hill.

I think it comes in time with experience but hill could have settled more to the MOF there to make a bigger lane

Yeah, if there's a complaint it's that he could've sold the underneath route a little better. Just a shoulder fake might've been enough to get the bite since defenses are so used to driving on short routes against him.

Just a little bit of shoulder turn there by Smith and maybe that gets him the step he needed.

[O.city]

Yeah, if there's a complaint it's that he could've sold the underneath route a little better. Just a shoulder fake might've been enough to get the bite since defenses are so used to driving on short routes against him.

Just a little bit of shoulder turn there by Smith and maybe that gets him the step he needed.

Thats probably an effect from getting hit a lot. You could tell the clock was sped up for him after a bit and he was uncomfortable .

I was impressed with the eagles DL. It's really young and really good:

[RunKC]

Found it in a rookie highlight video. Here ya go.

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Conley looks as shocked as we were that Hunt broke that last tackle and kept going.

[O.city]

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/09/19/the-nfl-lens-olb-justin-houston-popping-an-iron-door-off-its-frame/

Interesting read on Houston. Looks strong like bull

[DJ's left nut]

Yeah...that's not a great look.

If you're a WR and those DBs are looking to hit you all day, when Hunt has that ball in the open field, you get your chance to lay hands on them and battle back.

I doubt he could've impacted the play at all but it still suggests a lack of aggression. Meanwhile Hill gets to the sideline and looks for somebody to hit unfortunately he'd lost the angle on 31 already). He stands in there and tries to block a damn LB that has probably 30 lbs on him.

Would like to see Conley be more assertive there for sure.

[O.city]

Eh, seems like a prime example where you could end up blocking someone in the back and getting a dumb penalty

[Hydrae]

Conley looks like he's playing a game where he is not allowed to touch an Eagle.

He looked that way several times this week. I saw one play where Alex was scrambling and there was Conley just standing along the sidelines instead of working to get open to give his QB an out. It makes me think that he may be good at running a route (have not watched, do not know if even this is the case) but beyond that he is lost. Not blocking on Hunt's run here, not working a scramble drill to help his QB, just no idea what to do if it is not in the original script.

[DJ's left nut]

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/09/19/the-nfl-lens-olb-justin-houston-popping-an-iron-door-off-its-frame/

Interesting read on Houston. Looks strong like bull

Please let that man stay healthy.

He is so unbelievably good. There's just nothing on the field he doesn't excel at.

[DJ's left nut]

Eh, seems like a prime example where you could end up blocking someone in the back and getting a dumb penalty

Sure, if you just throw a shoulder at him. But he was in a position to square up, get inside the guys pads and just drive block him. You give DeSean Jackson that opportunity and he trust to pancake that motherfucker.

Like I said, it almost certainly didn't matter. But Conley's general personality strikes me as being fairly passive. It doesn't surprise me to see that he's not looking for a pound of flesh there, but it sure would've been nice to see it.

[O.city]

Sure, if you just throw a shoulder at him. But he was in a position to square up, get inside the guys pads and just drive block him. You give DeSean Jackson that opportunity and he trust to pancake that mother****er.

Like I said, it almost certainly didn't matter. But Conley's general personality strikes me as being fairly passive. It doesn't surprise me to see that he's not looking for a pound of flesh there, but it sure would've been nice to see it.

I dunno about desean but Steve smith is looking for someone there.

[DJ's left nut]

I dunno about desean but Steve smith is looking for someone there.

Honestly, I think that's who I was thinking of. In either event, I think Hill might have even gotten his hands dirty.

There are certainly a fair number of WRs out there that do exactly what Conley did on that play. But I don't have to like it. I'd have preferred he go find someone to hit.

[O.city]

Oh for sure. Go nail someone

[Chiefnj2]

He looked that way several times this week. I saw one play where Alex was scrambling and there was Conley just standing along the sidelines instead of working to get open to give his QB an out. It makes me think that he may be good at running a route (have not watched, do not know if even this is the case) but beyond that he is lost. Not blocking on Hunt's run here, not working a scramble drill to help his QB, just no idea what to do if it is not in the original script.

I remember that play. Smith went to the right and Conley stood still with a defender near him and he didn't move to get open or to get in front of the defender in the event Smith ran. I recall thinking that the Eagles receivers showed some scramble ability when Wentz left the pocket, but not KC.

I know Conley made a nice grab late in the game (on a perfect pass) but I can't help but wonder if Robinson might not be more productive if given a chance.

[staylor26]

I couldn't care less about that play. Conley is on pace for 800 yards and a very reliable #4 option in the passing game. He's also a very solid and willing blocker most of the time.

[Baby Lee]

Interesting mic-ed up of Tyreek on Inside the NFL.

He kept telling the Eagles DLinemen 'slow down, so I get a chance to get open'

[Reerun_KC]

Clay always seems like he has at least a little bit of a point when the team is struggling. When Alex performs well, though, it becomes clear pretty quickly that he has no idea what he's talking about.



He just throws out a bunch of numbers most of the time and usually the numbers are damaging to those bashing him.

People be like. Alex is god on 3rd down. Clay post stats. People well. He looked off someone so he's good.

Same shit, different year.


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[threebag]

LMAO

[Pasta Little Brioni]

:o)

[DJ's left nut]

He just throws out a bunch of numbers most of the time and usually the numbers are damaging to those bashing him.

People be like. Alex is god on 3rd down. Clay post stats. People well. He looked off someone so he's good.

Same shit, different year.


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What the fuck are you babbling on about?

I mean sure, if Clay wants to argue against positions that nobody's actually made, he's welcome to shout at walls until his face turns blue. Please do find me the "Alex is God on 3rd down" crowd. No hurry - I'll wait.

......

Okay, having dispensed with that particular brand of bullshit straw man, how 'bout you acknowledge the fact that what you're doing here is actually projecting Clay's bullshit on the people that disagree with him. His numbers aren't damaging - they're non-sequiturs. And that's when they aren't just completely inane stats he's cherry picked for the purposes of buttressing a point that nobody's bothered to dispute.

That's what he does. Year after year. He finds a stat and that's his stat du jour (and "the only stat that really matters when you're talking about {insert player here}") and then if said player improves/gets worse at it the following year, he just pretends like he never said it and moves onto a new stat that is NOW the most important stat ever.

He's the living embodiment of the old "figures don't lie, but liars do figure" saw. And he compounds it by knowing absolutely nothing about what he's seeing, so he has no context by which to use his stats - he just works backwards; finding the stats he wants to support the conclusion he reached when some twitter mob told him what to believe.

[Dartgod]

What the **** are you babbling on about?

I mean sure, if Clay wants to argue against positions that nobody's actually made, he's welcome to shout at walls until his face turns blue. Please do find me the "Alex is God on 3rd down" crowd. No hurry - I'll wait.

......

Okay, having dispensed with that particular brand of bullshit straw man, how 'bout you acknowledge the fact that what you're doing here is actually projecting Clay's bullshit on the people that disagree with him. His numbers aren't damaging - they're non-sequiturs. And that's when they aren't just completely inane stats he's cherry picked for the purposes of buttressing a point that nobody's bothered to dispute.

That's what he does. Year after year. He finds a stat and that's his stat du jour (and "the only stat that really matters when you're talking about {insert player here}") and then if said player improves/gets worse at it the following year, he just pretends like he never said it and moves onto a new stat that is NOW the most important stat ever.

He's the living embodiment of the old "figures don't lie, but liars do figure" saw. And he compounds it by knowing absolutely nothing about what he's seeing, so he has no context by which to use his stats - he just works backwards; finding the stats he wants to support the conclusion he reached when some twitter mob told him what to believe.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Baby Lee]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Does it bug you that, if people read your new UserName real quick, it sounds a little like DarthMaul? ;)

[Hammock Parties]

ALEX SMITH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS

https://i.imgur.com/r49ZWNH.gif

[threebag]

:o)

[threebag]

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--EouDejuo--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/qnbzoqrmw3y31nnxlniu.jpg

[Hammock Parties]

They're calling that play "The Shovel."

It's going to be as famous as "The Catch."

[threebag]

Everyone is loving it

[Baby Lee]

<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mI9ibZNZa7c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[threebag]

"The trunk was at the bottom of the ocean with chains all over it"

Love it

[Reerun_KC]

What the fuck are you babbling on about?



I mean sure, if Clay wants to argue against positions that nobody's actually made, he's welcome to shout at walls until his face turns blue. Please do find me the "Alex is God on 3rd down" crowd. No hurry - I'll wait.



......



Okay, having dispensed with that particular brand of bullshit straw man, how 'bout you acknowledge the fact that what you're doing here is actually projecting Clay's bullshit on the people that disagree with him. His numbers aren't damaging - they're non-sequiturs. And that's when they aren't just completely inane stats he's cherry picked for the purposes of buttressing a point that nobody's bothered to dispute.



That's what he does. Year after year. He finds a stat and that's his stat du jour (and "the only stat that really matters when you're talking about {insert player here}") and then if said player improves/gets worse at it the following year, he just pretends like he never said it and moves onto a new stat that is NOW the most important stat ever.



He's the living embodiment of the old "figures don't lie, but liars do figure" saw. And he compounds it by knowing absolutely nothing about what he's seeing, so he has no context by which to use his stats - he just works backwards; finding the stats he wants to support the conclusion he reached when some twitter mob told him what to believe.



Hey thanks for replying to my post. But in all honesty. I haven't read Anything you have posted in months. Might even be closer to a god knows when. I didn't even read any of this novel you replied with. But I want to reply to you so you at least felt like I was paying attention to you.

Call it professional courtesy. Have a nice day.


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[Reerun_KC]

ALEX SMITH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS

https://i.imgur.com/r49ZWNH.gif



Trent would be so proud.


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[Pitt Gorilla]

Timing could have been a touch better, but it was still a great play.

[DJ's left nut]

Hey thanks for replying to my post. But in all honesty. I haven't read Anything you have posted in months. Might even be closer to a god knows when. I didn't even read any of this novel you replied with. But I want to reply to you so you at least felt like I was paying attention to you.

Call it professional courtesy. Have a nice day.


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Glad to be identifiable enough to ignore.

You, on the other hand, I can't distinguish from the rest of Clay's sad little cabal of inane nut-chuggers. I truly cannot come up with any exchange we've ever had but always glad to hit a nerve.

[threebag]

LMAO

[Reerun_KC]

Glad to be identifiable enough to ignore.



You, on the other hand, I can't distinguish from the rest of Clay's sad little cabal of inane nut-chuggers. I truly cannot come up with any exchange we've ever had but always glad to hit a nerve.



ROFL


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[TimeForWasp]

I remember that play. Smith went to the right and Conley stood still with a defender near him and he didn't move to get open or to get in front of the defender in the event Smith ran. I recall thinking that the Eagles receivers showed some scramble ability when Wentz left the pocket, but not KC.

I know Conley made a nice grab late in the game (on a perfect pass) but I can't help but wonder if Robinson might not be more productive if given a chance.

Bingo. Not impressed with Conley.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Gif request. Ramik Wilson defending Sproles in the flat. One of the worst individual defensive plays I've seen. Would like to see again.