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Deberg_1990
10-01-2017, 01:08 PM
Another strong game today for Watson. 3 TDs against the Titans so far.

Kid just seems to have 'It'.

Discuss.....

Bowser
10-01-2017, 01:09 PM
FUCK YEAH THEY SHOULD HAVE WOOOOOOOOOOO

Chiefshrink
10-01-2017, 01:11 PM
:rolleyes:

LoneWolf
10-01-2017, 01:11 PM
Fuck off, Deberg! I hope the mods take away your thread starting privileges.

milkman
10-01-2017, 01:13 PM
Should your mother have swallowed you?

KCUnited
10-01-2017, 01:13 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SU6Boau.jpg?1

seclark
10-01-2017, 01:14 PM
Should your mother have swallowed you?

.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-01-2017, 01:15 PM
Should your mother have swallowed you?

Can you make this a poll, because I want to vote yes.

BlackHelicopters
10-01-2017, 01:17 PM
Fucktard.

otherstar
10-01-2017, 01:17 PM
Can you make this a poll, because I want to vote yes.

This.

Rasputin
10-01-2017, 01:19 PM
Watson wouldn't be playing this year for the Chiefs and they​would say he needs a year or two behind Alex cuck Smith.

Perineum Ripper
10-01-2017, 01:22 PM
Should your mother have swallowed you?

She should have at least been a better aim with the hanger

Direckshun
10-01-2017, 01:23 PM
Only time will tell.

Watson was the guy I wanted the Chiefs to get, but I knew they wouldn't be able to get him. Mahomes was the guy I figured we'd have to take because he'd drop.

Now they both look excellent.

It's impossible to tell right now, check back in about three seasons.

kcchiefsus
10-01-2017, 01:24 PM
Can't know when we're wasting a year with a fucking piece of shit at QB.

Bowser
10-01-2017, 01:25 PM
Can't know when we're wasting a year with a fucking piece of shit at QB.

http://orig12.deviantart.net/c836/f/2011/247/5/a/nostalgia_critic_rage_gif_by_adventureswithheroes-d48w6fm.gif

LoneWolf
10-01-2017, 01:26 PM
Only time will tell.

Watson was the guy I wanted the Chiefs to get, but I knew they wouldn't be able to get him. Mahomes was the guy I figured we'd have to take because he'd drop.

Now they both look excellent.

It's impossible to tell right now, check back in about three seasons.

The fact that you wanted Watson almost guarantees he will ultimately be a colossal failure of a QB.

penbrook
10-01-2017, 01:26 PM
Only time will tell.

Watson was the guy I wanted the Chiefs to get, but I knew they wouldn't be able to get him. Mahomes was the guy I figured we'd have to take because he'd drop.

Now they both look excellent.

It's impossible to tell right now, check back in about three seasons.

Both look excellent? Mahomes hasn’t played a snap in the regular season

notorious
10-01-2017, 01:26 PM
Jesus ****ing Christ.

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kcchiefsus
10-01-2017, 01:28 PM
I still think Watson will be another Robert Griffin/Vince Young type who finds some early success but ultimately turns out to be average at best once the league gets some tape on them.

kcchiefsus
10-01-2017, 01:28 PM
Both look excellent? Mahomes hasn’t played a snap in the regular season

You're such a piece of shit for actively rooting against Mahomes.

big nasty kcnut
10-01-2017, 01:29 PM
No mahomes is awesome. Watson playing a weak titans defense.

penbrook
10-01-2017, 01:29 PM
You're such a piece of shit for actively rooting against Mahomes.

No I’m actually for Smitty to succeed. The better he is the better the team is

milkman
10-01-2017, 01:30 PM
You're such a piece of shit for actively rooting against Mahomes.


Are you actively rooting against Smith?

Deberg_1990
10-01-2017, 01:30 PM
The fact that you wanted Watson almost guarantees he will ultimately be a colossal failure of a QB.

I think Watson is certainly proving he can play in this league. He might not make as many 'highlight reel' plays as Mahomes, but he can play

Looking like both will be good. Which is great for the league

kcchiefsus
10-01-2017, 01:32 PM
I think Watson is certainly proving he can play in this league. He might not make as many 'highlight reel' plays as Mahomes, but he can play

Looking like both will be good. Which is great for the league

Still too early. Vince Young and Robert Griffin were pro bowl level players as rookies. Then the league caught on to their game.

Direckshun
10-01-2017, 01:32 PM
The fact that you wanted Watson almost guarantees he will ultimately be a colossal failure of a QB.

No shit. My "official" draft endorsements of 1st round QBs is not exactly a future Hall of Famer list: Jimmy Clausen and Geno Smith.

Yikes.

But I also wanted Mahomes in the 1st. Just not as much as Watson.

Direckshun
10-01-2017, 01:32 PM
Both look excellent? Mahomes hasn’t played a snap in the regular season

He looked really good in the preseason.

Dinny Bossa Nova
10-01-2017, 01:34 PM
The level of anal fornicational intellectual incapacitance can be so overwhelming, at times I feel we're surrounded.

It's impressive in some fucked up kinda way.

Dinny

penbrook
10-01-2017, 01:35 PM
He looked really good in the preseason.

Yes yes he did

New World Order
10-01-2017, 01:36 PM
Dane said Watson wasn't an NFL qb.

notorious
10-01-2017, 01:38 PM
Should we trust the judgment of a coach that continuously gets more out of his QB's than anyone else, or a guy that offered Brock Osweiler a huge contract without even talking to him?


LOL. Give it time and everything will become crystal clear.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
10-01-2017, 01:41 PM
Should the Panthers, Vikings, and Jags have drafted Kareem??

Deberg_1990
10-01-2017, 01:42 PM
Should the Panthers, Vikings, and Jags have drafted Kareem??

Yes

Buehler445
10-01-2017, 01:43 PM
Should we trust the judgment of a coach that continuously gets more out of his QB's than anyone else, or a guy that offered Brock Osweiler a huge contract without even talking to him?


LOL. Give it time and everything will become crystal clear.

Notorious bringing perspective.

stevieray
10-01-2017, 01:44 PM
Yes

hindsight is 50/50

jjchieffan
10-01-2017, 01:44 PM
I think that the only reason to want Watson over Mahomes right now is wanting our quarterback to start now. But that's short sighted. We have the luxury of being able to sit our rookie quarterback for a year. We will know in 2-3 years if we made the right choice or not. It's silly to question it now

milkman
10-01-2017, 01:45 PM
Should we trust the judgment of a coach that continuously gets more out of his QB's than anyone else, or a guy that offered Brock Osweiler a huge contract without even talking to him?


LOL. Give it time and everything will become crystal clear.

Not a Bill O'Brien fan, but he didn't make that Osweiller call.

That was on the Texans GM, and the overall impression is that wasn't a move that O'Brien was in favor of.

notorious
10-01-2017, 01:46 PM
hindsight is 50/50

LMAO

DaFace
10-01-2017, 01:47 PM
Deberg thread.

Deberg_1990
10-01-2017, 01:54 PM
Whatever he case, NFL GMs and head coaches are stupid sometimes.

Why the hell do you start Tom Savage and Mike Glennon over your prized rookies? I don't get it. Play the kids and develop them if you have nothing but trash in front of them.

Ming the Merciless
10-01-2017, 01:56 PM
Should the Panthers, Vikings, and Jags have drafted Kareem??

Absolute genious

St. Patty's Fire
10-01-2017, 02:08 PM
I still think Watson will be another Robert Griffin/Vince Young type who finds some early success but ultimately turns out to be average at best once the league gets some tape on them.

Tend to agree with this, he's given me shades of Kaep when he first came into the league.

penbrook
10-01-2017, 02:09 PM
Tend to agree with this, he's given me shades of Kaep when he first came into the league.

Watson supports Fidel Castro?

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-01-2017, 02:13 PM
Mahomes =Best QB in Draft

Hunt = Best RB in draft

thegame214
10-01-2017, 02:14 PM
Lmao I'd take Mahomes every day of the week

St. Patty's Fire
10-01-2017, 02:21 PM
Watson supports Fidel Castro?

You are autistic.

LaDexter
10-01-2017, 02:23 PM
Watson is not VY or Griffin. Stop stereotyping.

Watson is a traditional mid first caliber QB prospect - great intangibles, decent arm, must cut down on picks.

Otter
10-01-2017, 02:24 PM
Only time will tell.

Watson was the guy I wanted the Chiefs to get, but I knew they wouldn't be able to get him. Mahomes was the guy I figured we'd have to take because he'd drop. You can't be this stupid. You do realize Mahomes was drafted BEFORE Watson? Good Lord.

Couch-Potato
10-01-2017, 02:27 PM
He DID have x5 TDs on the day, and the Texans ARE the new darkhorse team. Buuuuuut, I'm good with what we have.

penbrook
10-01-2017, 02:27 PM
You are autistic.

Says the one who thinks Watson is like Kaep

St. Patty's Fire
10-01-2017, 02:28 PM
Says the one who thinks Watson is like Kaep

He is in play style you dense fuck.

Direckshun
10-01-2017, 02:29 PM
Mahomes =Best QB in Draft

Hunt = Best RB in draft

Isn't this nuts?

We may have nailed the best at both positions, AND the best kicker.

We'll know in a couple years.

Hammock Parties
10-01-2017, 02:32 PM
Classic DeBerg thread.

Couch-Potato
10-01-2017, 02:33 PM
Isn't this nuts?

We may have nailed the best at both positions, AND the best kicker.

We'll know in a couple years.


Love it

TimBone
10-01-2017, 02:34 PM
You're such a piece of shit for actively rooting against Mahomes.
I don't believe I've seen Penbrook actively root against Mahomes.

Pro Alex Smith does not equal anti-Mahomes.

He's rooting for his team's current starting QB. Nothing wrong with that.

wazu
10-01-2017, 02:47 PM
Deberg thread.

I have great memories of the actual Steve Deberg. He deserves better than to have his name associated with this poster.

LaDexter
10-01-2017, 02:49 PM
BTW - the Titan secondary isn't very good at coverage, and that is putting it mildly.

Fish
10-01-2017, 03:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/EGef9jK.gif

HemiEd
10-01-2017, 03:03 PM
Hell fucking no, we got our man!

frozenchief
10-01-2017, 03:03 PM
We go the better QB. We drafted from a position of strength like GB did with Rogers. They had Favre and could afford to let Rogers learn. Smith is not of Favre's quality but Smith is in one sense a better mentor. He's smart and he's willing to mentor. Watson will be a good AqB but I think Mahomes talent ceiling is higher. If Mahomes went to Cleveland his QB development would have been really stunted, not to mention he would be surrounded by poor talent. Here, he has the opportunity to learn from Reid and Smith and develop. That will allow him a better chance to be the best QB he can be. From what I've seen of the two of them, I think that is better than Watson.

pugsnotdrugs19
10-01-2017, 03:13 PM
Are we seriously going to have this debate when our guy hasn't even played and the other has played 3 games? :facepalm:

Watson has his strengths and weaknesses. Right now they are doing a great job setting him up to make plays doing the things he does best. Eventually teams are going to plan for him properly and make him very uncomfortable by forcing him to look outside the numbers and down the field.

I'd bet we make him look like a real rook next week.

rico
10-01-2017, 03:15 PM
Good God...fuck no.

MahiMike
10-01-2017, 03:17 PM
**** off, Deberg! I hope the mods take away your thread starting privileges.

ROFL

rico
10-01-2017, 03:17 PM
Not a Bill O'Brien fan, but he didn't make that Osweiller call.

That was on the Texans GM, and the overall impression is that wasn't a move that O'Brien was in favor of.

Judging by the war room Watson pick pic, he didn't seem to be too thrilled with the Watson pick either. The GM sure was, though.

Rams Fan
10-01-2017, 03:20 PM
Mahomes hasn't even played yet so there is no point in comparing the 2 at this time.

ct
10-01-2017, 03:20 PM
i'll answer week4 next year...

WhiteWhale
10-01-2017, 05:21 PM
No.

I'm 100% confident KC made the right decision.

Coochie liquor
10-01-2017, 05:39 PM
Should the mods have taken Debergs thread starting privileges?

BlackOp
10-01-2017, 06:23 PM
From what I saw in preseason....hell no. Mahomes looks like a future star.

Tribal Warfare
10-01-2017, 06:40 PM
I'd bet we make him look like a real rook next week.

KC is going to make Mia Khalifa cry for 2 weeks.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-01-2017, 06:54 PM
DeBerg thread.

Red Dawg
10-01-2017, 06:57 PM
Watson will cool off. Mahomes will be better than him.

nychief
10-01-2017, 07:00 PM
Um... How in the fuck are we supposed to know?

CrowbarMan
10-01-2017, 07:13 PM
Another strong game today for Watson. 3 TDs against the Titans so far.

Kid just seems to have 'It'.

Discuss.....

No, it's obvious Mahomes is superior based on his play against 3rd and 4th stringers. Why we haven't supplanted our current veteran QB is beyond me.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-01-2017, 07:20 PM
No, it's obvious Mahomes is superior based on his play against 3rd and 4th stringers. Why we haven't supplanted our current veteran QB is beyond me.

Don't worry too hard on that, 2018 will be here soon enough.

Douche.

Iowanian
10-01-2017, 07:21 PM
Deberg is such a dumbass, jahovas witness slam his own door in his face when he answers the door

Eleazar
10-01-2017, 07:26 PM
No.

I'm 100% confident KC made the right decision.

Me too, but 98% of chiefsplanet HATED watson, which is an extremely positive omen for him

lewdog
10-01-2017, 07:28 PM
This is how I picture DeBerg.

https://i.imgur.com/j05z9f7.jpg

JakeF
10-01-2017, 07:48 PM
We'll find out next year when Veach trades or cuts Alex Smith to save money.

CrowbarMan
10-01-2017, 08:07 PM
Don't worry too hard on that, 2019 will be here soon enough.


Fixed that for ya.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-01-2017, 09:22 PM
We'll find out next year when Veach trades or cuts Alex Smith to save money.

Sing that sweet song, child.

Fi-

a) You didn't fix shit.

b) Might wanna' start singin' Jake's song; it's a guaranteed #1 hit for the 2018 NFL season.

Bitch.

TLO
10-01-2017, 09:32 PM
I feel like this thread is on the fast track to the romper room

Couch-Potato
10-01-2017, 10:00 PM
I was at last week's game, plenty in the crowd. 95% full

jaa1025
10-01-2017, 10:02 PM
No. I wouldn't trade Mahomes for anything. Not next years #1. Not Watson + a 1st. Nothing. He's going to be a star that Watson can only dream of.

okcchief
10-01-2017, 10:59 PM
100% no


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DaneMcCloud
10-01-2017, 11:34 PM
Dane said Watson wasn't an NFL qb.

You are a motherfucking, piece of shit, LIAR.

I was not a Watson fan due to his inaccuracy, this arm velocity and build.

I've said time and again that his ceiling is Tyrod Taylor.

Search it, Buttfuck.

I NEVER said he wasn't an NFL QB.

Die in a fiery car wreck while being sprayed down with an AIDS hose.

Cornstock
10-01-2017, 11:54 PM
Isn't this nuts?

We may have nailed the best at both positions, AND the best kicker.

We'll know in a couple years.

Regarding buttkicker, it sure sounded like they were high on him in the presser. Were any other kickers drafted this year? I'm much more confident in him after hearing all that.

Time will tell, but definitely a legit shot at getting best in class at all 3 positions.

Cornstock
10-01-2017, 11:57 PM
We go the better QB. We drafted from a position of strength like GB did with Rogers. They had Favre and could afford to let Rogers learn. Smith is not of Favre's quality but Smith is in one sense a better mentor. He's smart and he's willing to mentor. Watson will be a good AqB but I think Mahomes talent ceiling is higher. If Mahomes went to Cleveland his QB development would have been really stunted, not to mention he would be surrounded by poor talent. Here, he has the opportunity to learn from Reid and Smith and develop. That will allow him a better chance to be the best QB he can be. From what I've seen of the two of them, I think that is better than Watson.

I agree, although Smith is obviously no where near Favre, Favre wanted nothing to do with mentoring Rodgers. By all accounts, Smith is being a great mentor.

Cornstock
10-02-2017, 12:01 AM
KC is going to make Mia Khalifa cry for 2 weeks.

Is she a Houston fan? This is so inherently laced with innuendo I can only begin to sift through it

Eureka
10-02-2017, 02:37 AM
Mahomes =Best QB in Draft

Hunt = Best RB in draft

Then fired the GM.

Eleazar
10-02-2017, 04:16 AM
Then fired the GM.

ROFL

ILChief
10-02-2017, 05:48 AM
No

MahomesMagic
10-02-2017, 05:50 AM
No. Watson has great intangibles and I am happy for him. Just wait till Mahomes gets in next year.

TEX
10-02-2017, 06:38 AM
No. Watson has great intangibles and I am happy for him. Just wait till Mahomes gets in next year.


Exactly - Watson is playing lights out, but he has trouble throwing the deep ball - not due to a lack of arm strength, so I'm sure he'll be able to improve. However, once defenses study him, and what the Texans are doing, they'll figure him out. Right now, he and the Texans have the advantage because he has totally changed their offense. Not really much film on him. DC's are trying to give him different looks to confuse him and in the process they're making mistakes. Just play the kid straight up, and disguise stuff like you normally would, in any other game, but be conscious of the fact that he can run, and in the course of doing that - let the "rookie" come out in him.

Red Dawg
10-02-2017, 06:38 AM
He's started hot but so what? Game film will pile up and he will cool off.

TEX
10-02-2017, 06:46 AM
He's started hot but so what? Game film will pile up and he will cool off.

Exactly. Yesterday, the Titans were doing all kinds of stuff to "confuse him." Yet, all that accomplished was confusing themselves. So, he was able to take advantage of them, rather than the other way around.

RunKC
10-02-2017, 06:48 AM
We're going to play zone and have Dirty Dan spy that motherfucker. He won't be going off on us.

Halfcan
10-02-2017, 08:35 AM
Hopefully, when the Chiefs play them- they won't give Watson wide open receivers all day like the Titans did along with no pass rush.

Any scrub could have put up those numbers the way the Titans covered. Pitiful.

tatorhog
10-02-2017, 09:10 AM
I have great memories of the actual Steve Deberg. He deserves better than to have his name associated with this poster.

That poor dude got replaced by so many greats throughout his career.

Maybe there's hope for CP.

kcchiefsus
10-02-2017, 09:26 AM
Exactly - Watson is playing lights out, but he has trouble throwing the deep ball - not due to a lack of arm strength, so I'm sure he'll be able to improve. However, once defenses study him, and what the Texans are doing, they'll figure him out. Right now, he and the Texans have the advantage because he has totally changed their offense. Not really much film on him. DC's are trying to give him different looks to confuse him and in the process they're making mistakes. Just play the kid straight up, and disguise stuff like you normally would, in any other game, but be conscious of the fact that he can run, and in the course of doing that - let the "rookie" come out in him.

He does have a lack of arm strength. His arm is Chad Pennington-esque.

kcchiefsus
10-02-2017, 09:29 AM
I just hope Alex Smith does something finally this year to make it worth the wait. If we go 1 and done again in the playoffs it will be a real kick in the nuts. Trubisky is getting the start this week, so we have to be the most patient of all the teams with young signal callers.

Eleazar
10-02-2017, 09:47 AM
He does have a lack of arm strength. His arm is Chad Pennington-esque.

Everyone who we don't like and has non-elite arm strength gets compared to some noodler like Pennington, and everyone with elite arm strength that we don't like gets compared to Jeff George.

When we do like them, they either get compared to elite QBs who had less than ideal arm strength or to legends with big arms.

The common denominator? People posting whatever comparisons they want based on their personal like or dislike and not a lot else.

kcchiefsus
10-02-2017, 09:52 AM
Everyone who we don't like and has non-elite arm strength gets compared to some noodler like Pennington, and everyone with elite arm strength that we don't like gets compared to Jeff George.

When we do like them, they either get compared to elite QBs who had less than ideal arm strength or to legends with big arms.

The common denominator? People posting whatever comparisons they want based on their personal like or dislike and not a lot else.

Umm, no. Look at his velocity at the combine. It was 49 mph I believe? His throwing velocity was the worst of any quarterback. So no, it's not personal bias. His lack of arm strength comes from factual evidence.

DaneMcCloud
10-02-2017, 10:14 AM
Everyone who we don't like and has non-elite arm strength gets compared to some noodler like Pennington, and everyone with elite arm strength that we don't like gets compared to Jeff George.

When we do like them, they either get compared to elite QBs who had less than ideal arm strength or to legends with big arms.

The common denominator? People posting whatever comparisons they want based on their personal like or dislike and not a lot else.

Fucking stupid.

What the fuck has happened to your brain?

staylor26
10-02-2017, 10:22 AM
Everyone who we don't like and has non-elite arm strength gets compared to some noodler like Pennington, and everyone with elite arm strength that we don't like gets compared to Jeff George.

When we do like them, they either get compared to elite QBs who had less than ideal arm strength or to legends with big arms.

The common denominator? People posting whatever comparisons they want based on their personal like or dislike and not a lot else.

You’re one of the dumbest posters on this board. Congrats.

Lzen
10-02-2017, 10:24 AM
We'll see how good Watson is next week. Something tells me he isn't going to have a good game.

RealSNR
10-02-2017, 10:29 AM
Me too, but 98% of chiefsplanet HATED watson, which is an extremely positive omen for him


DERP CP GETS STUFF WRONG HERP.

What about Kareem Hunt? Tyreek Hill? Alex Smith? The other dozens of players we come to as a larger board consensus?

Oh but we got that one guy wrong that one time chuckle chuckle we probably get everybody wrong lololololol

Eleazar
10-02-2017, 10:44 AM
DERP CP GETS STUFF WRONG HERP.

What about Kareem Hunt? Tyreek Hill? Alex Smith? The other dozens of players we come to as a larger board consensus?

Oh but we got that one guy wrong that one time chuckle chuckle we probably get everybody wrong lololololol

Are you suggesting that CP has a good track record of evaluating quarterbacks?

MahomesMagic
10-02-2017, 10:45 AM
The talking heads who dissed the 2017 QB class are going to look foolish, that's for sure. Mahomes, Trubisky, and Watson are looking better and better as we get more tape on Darnold, Rosen, Allen, etc.

I take Mahomes over any of the guys the Mel Kipers are salivating over right now. The fact that Josh Allen is even considered a possible high first makes me question this great 2018 QB group.

Eleazar
10-02-2017, 10:56 AM
The talking heads who dissed the 2017 QB class are going to look foolish, that's for sure. Mahomes, Trubisky, and Watson are looking better and better

You know, only one of them has played a down of meaningful football.

Pasta Little Brioni
10-02-2017, 10:56 AM
Are you suggesting that CP has a good track record of evaluating quarterbacks?

That's a good point. NFL fans in general have NO idea how to evaluate QB play. Neither do most GMs it seems.

oldman
10-02-2017, 10:56 AM
It's a case of apples and oranges. Houston badly needed a QB, so the rookie started. Mahomes is sitting behind a guy, like it or not, that is 3-0. Let's re-evaluate in about 3 years. Just my opinion, we got the right guy.

WilliamTheIrish
10-02-2017, 10:58 AM
Deberg thread.

Just the absolute worst.

Halfcan
10-02-2017, 11:02 AM
It's a case of apples and oranges. Houston badly needed a QB, so the rookie started. Mahomes is sitting behind a guy, like it or not, that is 3-0. Let's re-evaluate in about 3 years. Just my opinion, we got the right guy.

:clap:

Eleazar
10-02-2017, 11:12 AM
That's a good point. NFL fans in general have NO idea how to evaluate QB play. Neither do most GMs it seems.

The odds are against ANY quarterback, no matter how talented, how highly drafted, how highly touted they are.

In the last 10 years, there have been 44 quarterbacks drafted in Round 1 or 2. QBs who stuck as decent long-term starters from that group:

Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Matt Stafford
Andy Dalton
Cam Newton
Sam Bradford
Andrew Luck
Derek Carr
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota

You could maybe add Wentz and Goff if you wanted, I'd say the jury is still out on them.

If you restrict it to only the mythical 1st round QBs, you have 29 first round QBs in the last 10 years, and from them:

Ryan
Flacco
Stafford
Newton
Luck

It starts to very thin after that. (The most career yards by a 1st round QB in the last decade that wasn't a top 3 selection... Mark Sanchez. )

The point is, the success rate is pretty low no matter who you are. It's not to take anything away from Mahomes or Watson or anybody else. The odds are heavily against all of them.

DaFace
10-02-2017, 11:19 AM
Are you suggesting that CP has a good track record of evaluating quarterbacks?

I personally find any generality about "what CP thinks" to be useless. Sometimes individual posters (or a group of them) have particularly strong feelings about a subject and are very vocal about it. Sometimes, they're wrong.

We can barely agree that the sky is blue around here, let alone reach any sort of conclusive consensus about a player evaluation.

Pasta Little Brioni
10-02-2017, 11:25 AM
Flacco looks like total dog shit most of the time. His Super bowl run was a fraud it seems. Hope for Alex.

Sure-Oz
10-02-2017, 11:28 AM
Another strong game today for Watson. 3 TDs against the Titans so far.

Kid just seems to have 'It'.

Discuss.....I wanted Mahomes so I'll stick with that.

Deberg_1990
10-08-2017, 09:39 PM
How do you feel after tonight?

Pablo
10-08-2017, 09:41 PM
I still feel like OP is a faggot.

Imon Yourside
10-08-2017, 09:41 PM
LMAO

Jerok
10-08-2017, 09:46 PM
Watson looks legit, let's see how mahomes plays

RealSNR
10-08-2017, 09:50 PM
How do you feel after tonight?

Only a fucking idiot would want Watson over Mahomes when they haven't seen him play in the regular season.

Sannyasi
10-08-2017, 10:06 PM
Watson can suck a dick. This one game made me hate that garbage time piece of shit.

Eleazar
10-08-2017, 10:07 PM
Watson has a ways to go but he looked pretty good for a guy with only a couple of games under his belt now. His elusiveness and arm looked pretty impressive.

If that had been Mahomes playing the exact same game, finishing with 275 yards or whatevs and 5 TDS, we’d be putting him in the HOF already

notorious
10-08-2017, 10:08 PM
Throw up jump balls and pray.


Sounds like franchise material. ROFL

BigRedChief
10-08-2017, 10:08 PM
I thought Watson couldn't throw a deep ball? That's why they went with Mahomes?

Red Dawg
10-08-2017, 10:08 PM
He sucked all night be got a bunch of Blake Bortles tds.

Deberg_1990
10-08-2017, 10:09 PM
Watson can suck a dick. This one game made me hate that garbage time piece of shit.

For real? He seems like a pretty decent guy to me from everything reported.

He can only run the plays called. Is he supposed to just sit on the ball with his team behind? No QB will ever do that.

Rasputin
10-08-2017, 10:09 PM
Watson would have been sitting on the bench had we drafted him. No he is not better than Patrick but he gets to play in Houston because they didn't have a quarterback worth a damn.


Patrick would be successful he just hasn't had the opportunity yet nor will he as long as Alex Smith is playing like he was abducted by aliens and it isn't him.

DaneMcCloud
10-08-2017, 10:15 PM
I thought Watson couldn't throw a deep ball? That's why they went with Mahomes?

He didn’t throw the deep ball with any accuracy

Jump balls don’t win games

eDave
10-08-2017, 10:16 PM
I saw a QB that will not be that good for very long.

RINGLEADER
10-08-2017, 10:17 PM
Watson is having a lot of luck with jump balls downfield. Any of those could have gone the other way. They look flashy but don't ultimately win you games consistently.

Outside of those three deep balls dude didn't do much. When the game was really on the line he was throwing 50% and had 60 yards. Again, you don't win games consistently throwing like that.

IowaHawkeyeChief
10-08-2017, 10:17 PM
I saw a QB that will not be that good for very long.

^This^

RealSNR
10-08-2017, 10:20 PM
He scored garbage time long ball prayers against our garbage time defense.

Fucking wow :rolleyes:

Pasta Little Brioni
10-08-2017, 10:21 PM
Remove this turds thread ability.

Did he complete a pass that wasn't a 50 50 jump ball?

Imon Yourside
10-08-2017, 10:24 PM
Matt Cassel threw a pretty jump ball too.

jaa1025
10-08-2017, 10:26 PM
I thought he was pretty garbage outside of his allusiveness and jump ball type throws. He just has very good WR's. His accuracy was terrible though.

Buehler445
10-08-2017, 10:28 PM
Throw up jump balls and pray.


Sounds like franchise material. ROFL

Anybody that was watching that and thinking, "welp, that does it. Houston got the better QB!" Needs to be publicly executed.

Reerun_KC
10-08-2017, 10:31 PM
Anybody that was watching that and thinking, "welp, that does it. Houston got the better QB!" Needs to be publicly executed.



He might not be better but he's talented as fuck.


And he's ahead of mahomes right now also.


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

mdchiefsfan
10-08-2017, 10:36 PM
He might not be better but he's talented as fuck.


And he's ahead of mahomes right now also.


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

Do you have any sort of verifiable proof to substantiate this claim, or is this mere speculation?

notorious
10-08-2017, 10:37 PM
Reerun is doing his thing. Let him work.

Ron Swanson
10-08-2017, 10:39 PM
He might not be better but he's talented as ****.


And he's ahead of mahomes right now also.


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

He seems like a Vince Young, RG3 type of guy that isn't going to make it for the long haul. He is a hell of an athlete, but I just don't see him being a top level NFL qb.

Ming the Merciless
10-08-2017, 10:39 PM
No

Reerun_KC
10-08-2017, 10:39 PM
Do you have any sort of verifiable proof to substantiate this claim, or is this mere speculation?



Ones playing in NFL games and the other is sitting behind the league MVP.

One is gaining NFL game experience and one isnt because of said league MVP.

Think about it for a minute.


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

WhiteWhale
10-08-2017, 10:41 PM
He seems like a Vince Young, RG3 type of guy that isn't going to make it for the long haul. He is a hell of an athlete, but I just don't see him being a top level NFL qb.

Nothing matters until teams have 6-10 games of film on the QB.

Once they know your ticks and tendencies, how do you play?

I call it 'The Damon Huard Window", because no obviously shit QB I've ever seen performed so well, but then after his window was up? Shit.

Also Tommy Maddox Syndrome.

Some guys look really good until the depth of tape comes out...

This was a total garbage time performance for Watson though. I wasn't impressed. Nice stats bro.

kcchiefsus
10-08-2017, 10:42 PM
He should have had at least 2 interceptions tonight.

DRM08
10-08-2017, 10:42 PM
Watson wouldn't be playing this year for the Chiefs and they​would say he needs a year or two behind Alex cuck Smith.

This is correct. Deshaun is playing because the Texans have a dumpster fire QB situation. Pat has the luxury of sitting and learning from Smith.

But it's also interesting that as soon as Mahomes shows up, Smith is having the best season of his career by a long shot. Seems to have lit a fire under Alex's butt. Watson wouldn't be starting over Smith right now either, so the Draft question is a silly one.

mdchiefsfan
10-08-2017, 10:43 PM
Ones playing in NFL games and the other is sitting behind the league MVP.

One is gaining NFL game experience and one isnt because of said league MVP.

Think about it for a minute.


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

🤔

One is witnessing his team go 5-0, the other tosses jump balls and just dug his team further down the AFC seeding chart.

Either way, your statement can’t be made until Mahomes plays.

Ron Swanson
10-08-2017, 10:43 PM
Nothing matters until teams have 6-10 games of film on the QB.

Once they know your ticks and tendencies, how do you play?

I call it 'The Damon Huard Window", because no obviously shit QB I've ever seen performed so well, but then after his window was up? Shit.

Also Tommy Maddox Syndrome.

Some guys look really good until the depth of tape comes out...

This was a total garbage time performance for Watson though. I wasn't impressed. Nice stats bro.

yep

Fish
10-08-2017, 10:44 PM
Still a strong "Hell nah."

Reerun_KC
10-08-2017, 10:46 PM
[emoji848]



One is witnessing his team go 5-0, the other tosses jump balls and just dug his team further down the AFC seeding chart.



Either way, your statement can’t be made until Mahomes plays.



True. It's a pointless debate or discussion because off the leagues mvp.


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

RINGLEADER
10-08-2017, 10:47 PM
Watson is 2-2 as a starter.

eDave
10-08-2017, 10:51 PM
Is there really such a thing as a "Alex only" fan? I haven't seen one.

Mav
10-08-2017, 10:52 PM
Is there really such a thing as a "Alex only" fan? I haven't seen one.



He's screaming for attention. After years of Alex hating now that Alex looks like a franchise qb now he's lashing at "Alex only fans." Which don't exist.


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mdchiefsfan
10-08-2017, 10:53 PM
Is there really such a thing as a "Alex only" fan? I haven't seen one.

See: Uppercut, Tiger. :D

kcchiefsus
10-08-2017, 10:53 PM
Is there really such a thing as a "Alex only" fan? I haven't seen one.

Yes. Fans who followed him from San Fran to here.

oaklandhater
10-08-2017, 10:53 PM
He's screaming for attention. After years of Alex hating now that Alex looks like a franchise qb now he's lashing at "Alex only fans." Which don't exist.


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Tiggeruppercut is pretty close Alex could go out and toss 5 ints in one game and Tiger would still find a way to make excuses for his ass.

Reerun_KC
10-08-2017, 10:54 PM
He's screaming for attention. After years of Alex hating now that Alex looks like a franchise qb now he's lashing at "Alex only fans." Which don't exist.


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You exist. Therefore statement is true.

Dilly dilly.

5-0!!!!


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

GloucesterChief
10-08-2017, 10:55 PM
Butt chin will keep the Texans in perpetual mediocrity, which is good enough to win the AFC south but not much else.

Watson will be a flash in the pan RGIII -Brock Osweiler style.

Eleazar
10-08-2017, 11:03 PM
He seems like a Vince Young, RG3 type of guy that isn't going to make it for the long haul. He is a hell of an athlete, but I just don't see him being a top level NFL qb.

If you saw him at the college level at all, the guy isn't a chucker. Players like RG3 who are one-read, throw the ball up for grabs or look to run at every opportunity, don't really play the QB position the way you have to in the NFL. Everyone agrees about that. He isn't one of them. The knock on him was the interceptions, but coming from his needing to get better at reading the field, not generally from accuracy.

And he is still transitioning to a pro style offense, but having to do it under live fire. All told he did well protecting the ball tonight in a game where his team was otherwise dominated. This is not a bad spot for a guy making his fourth ? appearance. A LOT of rookie QBs would have thrown 3 picks tonight and seen their team get housed by 30 points.

We saw him tonight doing some things similar to what Alex Smith does with his feet - but mostly using his feet to extend plays and go through his progressions, not looking to tuck it under and run at the first sign of trouble. His arm and accuracy were pretty good.

He may or may not work out in the NFL, the odds are against all QBs, even Mahomes. But I think Watson's being targeted unfairly by CP hate culture because of a Deberg thread and because we drafted someone else, so all other draftees must be terrible.

kcchiefsus
10-08-2017, 11:04 PM
I hope he is living under a bridge in 5 years

Mav
10-08-2017, 11:06 PM
You exist. Therefore statement is true.

Dilly dilly.

5-0!!!!


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.



If you think that I'm not a "Chiefs" fan after spending Four and a half years here I can't help you. You don't even like Alex. That's what's funny.


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Mav
10-08-2017, 11:06 PM
Yes. Fans who followed him from San Fran to here.


Incorrect.


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DaFace
10-08-2017, 11:23 PM
Yes. Fans who followed him from San Fran to here.I don't really know why that's even an issue. Do you look down on fans who came to the Chiefs with Montana?

RealSNR
10-08-2017, 11:28 PM
He may or may not work out in the NFL, the odds are against all QBs, even Mahomes. But I think Watson's being targeted unfairly by CP hate culture because of a Deberg thread and because we drafted someone else, so all other draftees must be terrible.

Because we also fucking hate Mitch Trubisky and Deshone Kizer, right?

Eleazar
10-08-2017, 11:47 PM
Because we also ****ing hate Mitch Trubisky and Deshone Kizer, right?

It's hardly comparable when we weren't in position to draft Trubisky and Kizer fell to the bottom of the second round.

Ming the Merciless
10-08-2017, 11:50 PM
Is there really such a thing as a "Alex only" fan? I haven't seen one.

Yes , there are a few of them

I don't really think he is one any more.....but there's at least 3 others that post a lot

RealSNR
10-08-2017, 11:51 PM
It's hardly comparable when we weren't in position to draft Trubisky and Kizer fell to the bottom of the second round.

You said draftees. Who are the others we're unfairly hating on because we drafted someone else?

Ming the Merciless
10-08-2017, 11:51 PM
I don't really know why that's even an issue. Do you look down on fans who came to the Chiefs with Montana?

I do if they were here just for Montana and left afterwards

**** them

There was a shit ton of those bandwagon chiefs wearing bitches around at rhat time

They were annoying as fuck

Make Sandy vag and PAchiefs look cool and smart

Mav
10-08-2017, 11:58 PM
I do if they were here just for Montana and left afterwards

**** them

There was a shit ton of those bandwagon chiefs wearing bitches around at rhat time

They were annoying as fuck

Make Sandy vag and PAchiefs look cool and smart



That's completely understandable. I get irritated with people who followed LeBron from Cleveland to Miami and back.


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DaneMcCloud
10-09-2017, 12:00 AM
It's hardly comparable when we weren't in position to draft Trubisky and Kizer fell to the bottom of the second round.

Your cunt has a cunt

Nickhead
10-09-2017, 12:10 AM
That's completely understandable. I get irritated with people who followed LeBron from Cleveland to Miami and back.


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you mean there are players that fans follow them from team to team, for heavens sakes, i would never.

seriously, when a player is gone from my team, i forget about them :D

rico
10-09-2017, 12:14 AM
He scored garbage time long ball prayers against our garbage time defense.

****ing wow :rolleyes:

Yup...3 TD's with super-freak WR, Hopkins.

This guy's hype will die down and he will flame out. He throws some incredibly ugly passes.

I was impressed with his presence of mind to tackle DJ and well...his tackling form when he tackled DJ. That was the most impressed I was with him all game.

Messier
10-09-2017, 04:06 AM
He's smart, and a very good athlete. A bunch of his deep passes seemed to be jump balls though. Not really "accurate" throws, more like punts that some terrific wide receivers went and got. I don't know, maybe he'll be good for a long time. But there should be no regret. If the Chiefs had taken Watson, and the Texans took Mahomes, I think the same argument would be had. Why didn't we take Mahomes?

ChiefGator
10-09-2017, 05:16 AM
Watson has a ways to go but he looked pretty good for a guy with only a couple of games under his belt now. His elusiveness and arm looked pretty impressive.

If that had been Mahomes playing the exact same game, finishing with 275 yards or whatevs and 5 TDS, we’d be putting him in the HOF already

Yep. Watson looks better than I thought and he certainly isn't the weak-armed QB that he was billed as. It was pretty well known that Watson was probably more NFL-ready, but with a lower ceiling. I'm not so sure that ceiling is so low anymore. Impressive young man really.

Black Bob
10-09-2017, 06:47 AM
I wanted Watson over Mahommes and still do. I think we got the wrong QB but time will tell. Mahommes is much more likely to be Jake Locker than Brett Favre.

Reerun_KC
10-09-2017, 07:13 AM
I don't really know why that's even an issue. Do you look down on fans who came to the Chiefs with Montana?



Or bono? Or Grbac? Maybe Cassel fans?


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

RunKC
10-09-2017, 07:22 AM
He was almost picked off several times.

He scored 3 TD's from Hail Mary type plays. That won't continue.

King_Chief_Fan
10-09-2017, 07:30 AM
He was almost picked off several times.

He scored 3 TD's from Hail Mary type plays. That won't continue.

This

kcchiefsus
10-09-2017, 07:42 AM
Watson's hail marys do show what a friend freak wide receivers can be to a young QB. I hope we make an effort to stockpile some talent there. We had the worst group of wideouts in the AFC West even before Conley went down.

Couch-Potato
10-09-2017, 07:47 AM
Yep. Watson looks better than I thought and he certainly isn't the weak-armed QB that he was billed as. It was pretty well known that Watson was probably more NFL-ready, but with a lower ceiling. I'm not so sure that ceiling is so low anymore. Impressive young man really.

I agree. His long balls look good, nice tight spirals. He seemed to have a nice instinctual touch on those balls, rather than just tossing them up IMO.

Eleazar
10-09-2017, 09:57 AM
I wanted Watson over Mahommes and still do. I think we got the wrong QB but time will tell. Mahommes is much more likely to be Jake Locker than Brett Favre.

Mahomes was the right choice, but everything doesn’t have to be binary like we make it out to be on CP. Watson could turn out to be a fine player too.

I think what people are missing is that these “jump balls” were right where they needed to be - right on the receivers hands in most cases. The fact that the ball was placed so the receiver could use vertical space to make the catch and only his man could get the ball doesn’t make the throw meaningless. This is a legitimate NFL throw that great QBs have to be able to execute accurately, and he placed a several of them perfectly. Facing a defense so adept at forcing turnovers, throwing 5 TDs and no INTs means he was probably placing the ball very well down the field.

Smith, for now an MVP candidate, was less accurate down the field even in a game where he played well.

Nobody is saying Watson doesn’t have a long way to go yet before he’s arrived, but the pre-draft trash talk that he isn’t a legitimate NFL QB obviously is not looking too smart right now.

BlackOp
10-09-2017, 10:27 AM
Smith, for now an MVP candidate, was less accurate down the field even in a game where he played well.


What....:shake:

The only inaccurate pass was to Kelce in the endzone...that was because of a blown block and he couldn't step into it.

Watson had bombs thrown up for grabs...he looked good for a rookie but he wasn't even close to Smith last night.

ARROW2
10-09-2017, 11:21 AM
To answer the original question. NO!!!

ModSocks
10-09-2017, 11:24 AM
Watson was barely completing 50% of his passes for less than 200 yards prior to his late 4th qtr hail marry volleys.

Yea, uh, no thanks.

Some of you are ClayCoMo-ing yourselves, just looking at gaudy junk time passing numbers.

A8bil
10-09-2017, 11:30 AM
Another strong game today for Watson. 3 TDs against the Titans so far.

Kid just seems to have 'It'.

Discuss..... If "it" means a receiver that will go up and over defenders to make a jump ball into a reception, he's got it.

oldman
10-09-2017, 12:03 PM
While Watson was impressive on some things last night, he still has a long way to go to be successful in the NFL. Sure, 5 TD passes look good in the stats and someone's fantasy team, but those 3 Hail Mary's could have turned into 3 INTs just as easily. I think we got the right guy.

Titty Meat
10-09-2017, 12:13 PM
The Watson hate on here has always been odd. He's a good QB once again SNR was wrong but what else is new?

Tribal Warfare
10-10-2017, 07:51 AM
I don't really know why that's even an issue. Do you look down on fans who came to the Chiefs with Montana?

20+ years with the team, yeah they paid their dues

kepp
10-10-2017, 09:26 AM
He was almost picked off several times.

He scored 3 TD's from Hail Mary type plays. That won't continue.

I kept telling the TV announcers this as they were hanging off his sack, but they didn't seem to hear me.

Rausch
10-10-2017, 09:34 AM
So the question is if a rookie who hasn't played is better/worse than a rookie who's played 3 games?

What a pointless question...

Deberg_1990
10-10-2017, 09:38 AM
So the question is if a rookie who hasn't played is better/worse than a rookie who's played 3 games?

What a pointless question...

Admittedly, this will be a fun bump in 2-3 years

threebag
10-10-2017, 09:46 AM
Ones playing in NFL games and the other is sitting behind the league MVP.

One is gaining NFL game experience and one isnt because of said league MVP.

Think about it for a minute.


Die in a flaming bucket of aids Alex only fans.

Romper Room material

Kiimo
10-10-2017, 12:41 PM
The problem with Watson was never going to be "he can't chuck up a prayer to the end zone"

The problem, which we haven't seen yet because they're protecting him, is "He doesn't have the velocity to throw strikes to the out routes and get the ball there in time to avoid the interception like Mahomes easily can because Mahomes throws 62mph and Watson throws 49."

Red Dawg
10-10-2017, 01:13 PM
The Watson hate on here has always been odd. He's a good QB once again SNR was wrong but what else is new?

Watson has done nothing to make him a good QB. You don't know anything until year 3. There was a time when Sanchez and Cassel we called good QBs. We made Watson look bad. He threw a bunch of luck balls all over when the game was lost. Take out those stats and he sucked.

jaa1025
10-10-2017, 02:10 PM
Watson had like what 75 yards passing 3 minutes into the 4st quarter? He was largely ineffective. He was inaccurate and plain bad. When the Chiefs went into prevent defense with a 19 point lead he just threw bombs...and our secondary isn't the best without Berry back there. I don't get the Watson love. I'm so glad the Chiefs passed on him.

JakeF
10-10-2017, 02:20 PM
We won't know until the young QBs try to take the next step.

MahiMike
10-10-2017, 05:52 PM
Watson seems to have guys that can jump pretty well. But I haven't seen him throw a pro pass yet. Just lucky hail Mary's.

Kiimo
10-10-2017, 05:57 PM
Meanwhile I've seen Mahomes make throws already that even our Probowl MVP QB can't make.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-10-2017, 08:22 PM
Meanwhile I've seen Mahomes make throws already that even our Probowl MVP QB can't make.

b00m! ROFL:clap:

Go easy son, the old vaginas 'round here haven't seen this kind of moistening since Carl Peterson brought the LAST Frisco Bitch to town.

BlackOp
10-10-2017, 08:30 PM
Meanwhile I've seen Mahomes make throws already that even our Probowl MVP QB can't make.

In fairness..I've seen our potential "MVP" read defenses to the tune of the 4th best start for a QB in NFL history.

Mahomes couldn't have fallen into a better learning environment...he's watching his mentor have a career season and what he's doing to achieve it. ...so much good going on right now.

If Mahomes inherits 75% of Smith's clinical awareness...he'll be a monster.

PAChiefsGuy
10-10-2017, 08:34 PM
Yes

RINGLEADER
10-10-2017, 08:35 PM
Watson had like what 75 yards passing 3 minutes into the 4st quarter? He was largely ineffective. He was inaccurate and plain bad. When the Chiefs went into prevent defense with a 19 point lead he just threw bombs...and our secondary isn't the best without Berry back there. I don't get the Watson love. I'm so glad the Chiefs passed on him.

Pat Kerwin (sp?) made this point on NFL Radio today. Basically Watson threw up 4 of what he called 50/50 passes. Thanks to some luck and good receiver play Watson got all 4 through some pretty decent coverage. If those 50/50 balls live up to their billing, however, he ends up with 45% completion percentage, around 160 yards, and the Texans lose by 20+.

Watson reminds me of Derek Carr - misses shorter throws badly, misreads coverages badly, but has some good receivers who are able to win battles on deep balls. Doesn't make him bad, per se, but as Kerwin said today you can't win a championship that way.

Maybe he learns how to play better -- but I wouldn't trade Mahomes for Watson even after the first month of this season.

Basileus777
10-10-2017, 11:36 PM
The Texans are running a spread offense based around the option and Watson's main role as a passer is to chuck up jump balls against single coverage down the field. And he's been really inaccurate even in this limited role, which was always the main concern about him. He's shown good intangibles, but I still don't know that he'll even become a good starting QB in this league.

milkman
10-11-2017, 10:10 AM
Mahomes was the right choice, but everything doesn’t have to be binary like we make it out to be on CP. Watson could turn out to be a fine player too.

I think what people are missing is that these “jump balls” were right where they needed to be - right on the receivers hands in most cases. The fact that the ball was placed so the receiver could use vertical space to make the catch and only his man could get the ball doesn’t make the throw meaningless. This is a legitimate NFL throw that great QBs have to be able to execute accurately, and he placed a several of them perfectly. Facing a defense so adept at forcing turnovers, throwing 5 TDs and no INTs means he was probably placing the ball very well down the field.

Smith, for now an MVP candidate, was less accurate down the field even in a game where he played well.

Nobody is saying Watson doesn’t have a long way to go yet before he’s arrived, but the pre-draft trash talk that he isn’t a legitimate NFL QB obviously is not looking too smart right now.

He threw up jump balls.
All he has to do is is throw it in the area so that his receiver can track it, get into position.
The is no real accuracy involved, and this just the stupidest take.

His guys won the jump balls.

That was it.

saphojunkie
10-11-2017, 11:30 AM
Yes

This is why you fail

Kiimo
10-11-2017, 12:08 PM
In fairness..I've seen our potential "MVP" read defenses to the tune of the 4th best start for a QB in NFL history.

Mahomes couldn't have fallen into a better learning environment...he's watching his mentor have a career season and what he's doing to achieve it. ...so much good going on right now.

If Mahomes inherits 75% of Smith's clinical awareness...he'll be a monster.


This season is proceeding precisely like I hoped and got put on blast for saying.

RippedmyFlesh
10-11-2017, 01:00 PM
He threw up jump balls.
All he has to do is is throw it in the area so that his receiver can track it, get into position.
The is no real accuracy involved, and this just the stupidest take.

His guys won the jump balls.

That was it.

That was what I saw at Clemson. Mike Williams owning people.

RealSNR
10-11-2017, 01:02 PM
Yes

Wanna know how I know you're an ultra butthurt moron about Chiefs fans not liking Alex Smith?

PAChiefsGuy
10-11-2017, 01:10 PM
Wanna know how I know you're an ultra butthurt moron about Chiefs fans not liking Alex Smith?

It was a joke you idiot. Just trying to get you upset and it worked. How the hell would I know who they should have drafted when Mahomes hasn't played one snap in an NFL game to date and Watson is still learning?

Oh yeah 7-days until the Spurs spank the championship-less Timberwolves on opening night. It's going to be great.

RealSNR
10-11-2017, 01:17 PM
The Watson hate on here has always been odd. He's a good QB once again SNR was wrong but what else is new?

LMAO LMAO

billay has already crowned Watson's ass. I guess that means he's a good QB!

Were you a fan of Mark Sanchez in 2009? I forget. Did you also crown his ass after 2 seasons? How about Tim Tebow? When he won a playoff game, did you crown his ass, too?

Keep in mind, I never said Watson couldn't play in the NFL. I said his ceiling was Doug Flutie, who eventually became an okay starter in the league.

Watson is limited like Flutie was. It's possible for him to persevere through those limits, but the end result is still going to be the same. And no, his "winner" instinct will not help him. Far more talented QBs with that same "winner" attitude have come and gone in the NFL, and most of them could never find their stride in the league.

The NFL is a vastly different league than in Flutie's time, so it's not at all a rare thing for a coach like O'Brien to give him chances and work in some of his college play designs into his offense. The key is what happens when teams get film on Watson and he has to adjust?

That "tough it out win the game" mentality ain't gonna do him much good. He's going to have to become a far more accurate QB or he's going to have to find some way to increase his throwing velocity.

RealSNR
10-11-2017, 01:25 PM
It was a joke you idiot. Just trying to get you upset and it worked. How the hell would I know who they should have drafted when Mahomes hasn't played one snap in an NFL game to date and Watson is still learning?

Oh yeah 7-days until the Spurs spank the championship-less Timberwolves on opening night. It's going to be great.

Are you a fucking moron? Do you think I'm a Timberwolves fan because I think they're a really good franchise?

And congratulations on your Spurs fandom, guy who lives thousands of miles away in Pennsylvania and probably has never even been to San Antonio. Your parents must be so proud that you chose to become a fan of a random ass fucking team that was really good when you started liking them.

I'm going to take a stab at your favorite baseball team. Is it the Yankees? Is your favorite college football team Alabama? Wait, how old are you? It might be Miami or Notre Dame.

Chris Meck
10-11-2017, 02:40 PM
It's fun to see the next generation of top flight QB's emerge. I think Mahomes will be right in there.

PAChiefsGuy
10-11-2017, 02:53 PM
Are you a ****ing moron? Do you think I'm a Timberwolves fan because I think they're a really good franchise?

And congratulations on your Spurs fandom, guy who lives thousands of miles away in Pennsylvania and probably has never even been to San Antonio. Your parents must be so proud that you chose to become a fan of a random ass ****ing team that was really good when you started liking them.

I'm going to take a stab at your favorite baseball team. Is it the Yankees? Is your favorite college football team Alabama? Wait, how old are you? It might be Miami or Notre Dame.

I don't watch baseball or college football.

I don't feel like I need to apologize for being a Chiefs fan that is not from KC. There are Chief fans all over the world and many of them post here. Using your logic I guess the UK Chief fans are idiots as well right?

I can root for whoever I like. I don't live in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. I don't like either of those cities so I have no reason to be loyal to those franchises. There's actually a Chiefs bar in Philadelphia called Charlies you ignorant mother******

I became a fan of Chiefs and Spurs for different reasons. I became a Chiefs fan because as a kid I loved Montana he went there and I was amazed at how passionate the fans in KC were when the Chiefs played at home. I wanted to be part of that fanbase and I also like defense. At the time the Chiefs defense was absolute monster. I became a Spurs fan because of Tim Duncan. I loved how he played and always kept his cool.

I'm not a huge bball fan anyway. Chiefs are my favorite team by far. I've always been loyal to them and always will.

You have a right to like the Timberwolves for whatever reason you like and I have a right to talk trash to you about how much they suck. It's just sports man. Relax.

RealSNR
10-11-2017, 03:18 PM
I don't watch baseball or college football.

I don't feel like I need to apologize for being a Chiefs fan that is not from KC. There are Chief fans all over the world and many of them post here. Using your logic I guess the UK Chief fans are idiots as well right?

I can root for whoever I like. I don't live in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. I don't like either of those cities so I have no reason to be loyal to those franchises. There's actually a Chiefs bar in Philadelphia called Charlies you ignorant mother******

I became a fan of Chiefs and Spurs for different reasons. I became a Chiefs fan because as a kid I loved Montana he went there and I was amazed at how passionate the fans in KC were when the Chiefs played at home. I wanted to be part of that fanbase and I also like defense. At the time the Chiefs defense was absolute monster. I became a Spurs fan because of Tim Duncan. I loved how he played and always kept his cool.

I'm not a huge bball fan anyway. Chiefs are my favorite team by far. I've always been loyal to them and always will.

You have a right to like the Timberwolves for whatever reason you like and I have a right to talk trash to you about how much they suck. It's just sports man. Relax.

"Wolves suck! Spurs gonna crush them!!! Wooooooo!!!!"

"Eh, I'm not even that big of a basketball fan. I only like the Spurs because I liked one of the greatest players at his position in NBA history."

You'll forgive me if I don't think very highly of your basketball knowledge or fan credibility, right?

PAChiefsGuy
10-11-2017, 04:13 PM
"Wolves suck! Spurs gonna crush them!!! Wooooooo!!!!"

"Eh, I'm not even that big of a basketball fan. I only like the Spurs because I liked one of the greatest players at his position in NBA history."

You'll forgive me if I don't think very highly of your basketball knowledge or fan credibility, right?

I don't give a s**t what you think about me.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-11-2017, 07:39 PM
I don't watch baseball or college football.

I don't feel like I need to apologize for being a Chiefs fan that is not from KC. There are Chief fans all over the world and many of them post here. Using your logic I guess the UK Chief fans are idiots as well right?

I can root for whoever I like. I don't live in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. I don't like either of those cities so I have no reason to be loyal to those franchises. There's actually a Chiefs bar in Philadelphia called Charlies you ignorant mother******

I became a fan of Chiefs and Spurs for different reasons. I became a Chiefs fan because as a kid I loved Montana he went there and I was amazed at how passionate the fans in KC were when the Chiefs played at home. I wanted to be part of that fanbase and I also like defense. At the time the Chiefs defense was absolute monster. I became a Spurs fan because of Tim Duncan. I loved how he played and always kept his cool.

I'm not a huge bball fan anyway. Chiefs are my favorite team by far. I've always been loyal to them and always will.

You have a right to like the Timberwolves for whatever reason you like and I have a right to talk trash to you about how much they suck. It's just sports man. Relax.

Did you know that the Chiefs hate you?

It's true.

I spoke with Berry this morning and he told me to "neg his ass to kingdom come and back again".
Also, Kelce and Peters find you to be an intolerable douche bag.

Eleazar
10-15-2017, 08:40 PM
:fire:

Titty Meat
10-15-2017, 09:25 PM
I don't give a s**t what you think about me.

Nor should you. He's the biggest idiot on the board. Watson throws another 3 touchdowns today and this moron sucks off Kizer. It's comical.

Ming the Merciless
10-15-2017, 09:28 PM
i still would say no at this point although he looks like a bad ass & i do think houston did well with this pick

i hope the answer is no

and I hope we find out in 2018

RealSNR
10-16-2017, 09:04 AM
Nor should you. He's the biggest idiot on the board. Watson throws another 3 touchdowns today and this moron sucks off Kizer. It's comical.


I suck off Kizer? I said he played well in preseason, dipshit.

Matt Cassel is one of only a few QBs to ever throw consecutive 400 yard games, and he did it in his first year of starting.

If you think what you see now with Watson in terms of TDs is going to be the norm in his career, you are grossly mistaken.

KChiefs1
10-16-2017, 07:42 PM
Yes


No

Willie Lanier
10-16-2017, 07:52 PM
Nor should you. He's the biggest idiot on the board. Watson throws another 3 touchdowns today and this moron sucks off Kizer. It's comical.

It is not usually my prerogative to step into imaginary internet fights, but...

In what world is snr the biggest idiot on this site?

Are you high?

RunKC
10-29-2017, 03:06 PM
Time to give this kid the respect he deserves. 21 points in one half on an elite Seattle defense on the road.

He's the real deal.

ARROW2
10-29-2017, 03:09 PM
Time to give this kid the respect he deserves. 21 points in one half on an elite Seattle defense on the road.

He's the real deal.



Yet, our REAL DEAL sits. So fucking maddening!!!! Chiefs are so fucking scared to play a rookie after being aggressive to get him. Like Alex is some kind of hall of famer.

Easy 6
10-29-2017, 03:09 PM
Kudos to the young guy, he is off to one helluva start

Still wouldn't trade Mahomes for him, there is something otherworldly about the way he chucks it

Eleazar
10-29-2017, 03:10 PM
Time to give this kid the respect he deserves. 21 points in one half on an elite Seattle defense on the road.

He's the real deal.

I read on CP that he's not an NFL quarterback

RunKC
10-29-2017, 03:13 PM
Yet, our REAL DEAL sits. So ****ing maddening!!!! Chiefs are so ****ing scared to play a rookie after being aggressive to get him. Like Alex is some kind of hall of famer.

Starting Mahomes right now would be a massive downgrade from Alex.

ARROW2
10-29-2017, 03:13 PM
Starting Mahomes right now would be a massive downgrade from Alex.

Bullshit. Change your fucking avatar then.

Hammock Parties
10-29-2017, 03:16 PM
Watson is for real.

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stevieray
10-29-2017, 03:17 PM
seems a little early to be crowning Watson anything other than off to a good start.

MTG#10
10-29-2017, 03:19 PM
Yet, our REAL DEAL sits. So fucking maddening!!!! Chiefs are so fucking scared to play a rookie after being aggressive to get him. Like Alex is some kind of hall of famer.

Alex is playing well. You dont sit your veteran who knows the system like the back of his hand for an unproven rookie when he's playing well and your team has a good record.

If Alex was part black and Mahomes was 100% white you'd sing a different tune because you're a dumbass and a racist piece of shit.

Reerun_KC
10-29-2017, 03:19 PM
seems a little early to be crowning Watson anything other than off to a good start.

Were wanting to crown Smith as the MVP when he is off to a good start after a 13 years....

RunKC
10-29-2017, 03:20 PM
He reminds me a lot of RGIII in his rookie season. He could end up busting like RGIII but I don't see it.

He's not an egotistical moron like RGIII was

ARROW2
10-29-2017, 03:20 PM
seems a little early to be crowning Watson anything other than off to a good start.

Yet, Alexis is crowned after a little early success. ROFL

ARROW2
10-29-2017, 03:21 PM
Alex is playing well. You dont sit your veteran who knows the system like the back of his hand for an unproven rookie when he's playing well and your team has a good record.

If Alex was part black and Mahomes was 100% white you'd sing a different tune because you're a dumbass and a racist piece of shit.

You stupid piece of shit, I have never said anything about race when it comes to Mahomes.

MTG#10
10-29-2017, 03:21 PM
You stupid piece of shit, I have never said anything about race when it comes to Mahomes.

You dont have to, everyone knows you're a racist piece of shit

DaFace
10-29-2017, 03:21 PM
Watson is for real.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9562189/sherm.0.gif

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9561951/tex.0.gif

There's no doubt he's gonna be here to stay in my mind. That said, he's benefiting a lot from just being able to lob it up to his great receivers right now. Not saying that's a bad thing, but I'm not convinced he'd be able to carry a team with mediocre talent.

But regardless, he's head and shoulders better than anything they've had down there for a while.

BigRedChief
10-29-2017, 03:22 PM
there is something otherworldly about the way he chucks itI read over and over on here from the draft gurus that Watson couldn't throw a deep ball with accuracy. Seems to me anyway that narrative was BS.

ARROW2
10-29-2017, 03:23 PM
You dont have to, everyone knows you're a racist piece of shit

You probably voted for the racist divider in chief. ROFL

MTG#10
10-29-2017, 03:24 PM
You probably voted for the racist divider in chief. ROFL

No, I didnt vote for Obama either time

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
10-29-2017, 03:24 PM
Probably, but hopefully doesn't turn out to be a huge blunder

JakeF
10-29-2017, 03:25 PM
People rage about how the Chiefs would never draft a QB early. They do. Now people rage about how the Chiefs should have drafted a different QB early. People also rage about how the Chiefs won't start the rookie early enough.

Some people are going to rage no matter what. :shake:

staylor26
10-29-2017, 03:26 PM
Probably, but hopefully doesn't turn out to be a huge blunder

Faggot

stevieray
10-29-2017, 03:27 PM
Yet, Alexis is crowned after a little early success. ROFL

:drool:

there is something fundamentally wrong with you.

Easy 6
10-29-2017, 03:27 PM
I read over and over on here from the draft gurus that Watson couldn't throw a deep ball with accuracy. Seems to me anyway that narrative was BS.

I was actually referring to Mahomes with that line

Houston can have Watson, Money Mahomes is going to set the NFL on fire

Bowser
10-29-2017, 03:29 PM
Should we have drafted (insert name of the Player of the Moment) over Mahomes?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
10-29-2017, 03:30 PM
People rage about how the Chiefs would never draft a QB early. They do. Now people rage about how the Chiefs should have drafted a different QB early. People also rage about how the Chiefs won't start the rookie early enough.

Some people are going to rage no matter what. :shake:

Nobody is raging, dumbass. People here love Mahomes. I do too. Right now, it's hard to say that any QB has as bright of a future as Watson. Maybe Wentz.
I have hope that Mahomes will enter that discussion. Right now the odds are with Watson.

MTG#10
10-29-2017, 03:31 PM
The whole concept of this thread is stupid anyway, we wont know anything until we see Mahomes start at least a full season, maybe more.