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ForeverChiefs58
10-20-2017, 07:39 AM
What position is needed most?

S, CB, LB, DT?

OL and WR later depending on FA of course

Prospects you like?

TLO
10-20-2017, 08:19 AM
Anyone or anything besides another DT.

ForeverChiefs58
10-20-2017, 09:41 PM
I wouldn’t mind that being our first 4 picks. I wouldn’t be upset of the order

S
CB
LB
DL

ForeverChiefs58
10-20-2017, 10:43 PM
Don’t know much about them, but here is a list of prospects

SAFETY

1- Derwin James – (6-3, 211) – RSO – Florida State
2- Ronnie Harrison – (6-3, 214) – JR – Alabama
3- Minkah Fitzpatrick – (6-1, 202) – JR – Alabama
4- Quin Blanding – (6-2, 210) – SR – Virginia
5- Tanner Muse – (6-2, 220) – RSO – Clemson
6- Damon Webb – (5-11, 195) – SR – Ohio State
7- Jordan Whitehead – (5-11, 195) – JR – Pittsburgh
8- Armani Watts – (5-11, 205) – SR – Texas A&M
9- Marcus Allen – (6-2, 205) – SR – Penn State
10- Jessie Bates – (6-2, 195) – RSO – Wake Forest
11- Chase Hansen – (6-3, 220) – JR – Utah
12- Andrew Wingard – (6-0, 209) – JR – Wyoming
13- Todd Kelly – (5-11, 200) – SR – Tennessee
14- Brandon Bryant – (6-1, 213) – JR – Mississippi State
15- Kieron Williams – (6-1, 195) – SR – Nebraska
16- Marvell Tell – (6-2, 195) – JR – USC
17- Godwin Igwebuike – (6-0, 212) – SR – Northwestern
18- Trey Marshall – (6-0, 210) – SR – Florida State
19- Drue Tranquill – (6-2, 231) – JR – Notre Dame
20- Mike Edwards – (6-0, 200) – JR – Kentucky
21- Javon Hagan – (6-0, 211) – RSO – Ohio
22- Chucky Williams – (6-2, 216) – SR – Louisville
23- Terrell Edmunds – (6-2, 220) – JR – Virginia Tech
24- Nick Washington – (6-0, 198) – SR – Florida
25- Van Smith – (5-11, 195) – JR – Clemson
26- Tyree Robinson – (6-3, 199) – SR – Oregon
27- Donovan Wilson – (6-1, 202) – SR – Texas A&M
28- Steven Parker – (6-1, 204) – SR – Oklahoma
29- Donnie Miles – (5-11, 210) – SR – North Carolina
30- John Battle – (6-3, 201) – JR – LSU
31- Dominick Sanders – (6-0, 200) – SR – Georgia
32- Sean Chandler – (6-0, 195) – SR – Temple
33- Justin Reid – (6-1, 204) – JR – Stanford
34- Kyzir White – (6-2, 216) – SR – West Virginia
35- Chris Hawkins – (5-11, 190) – SR – USC
36- JoJo McIntosh – (6-1, 219) – JR – Washington
37- Ed Paris – (6-1, 210) – SR – LSU
38- Tray Matthews – (6-1, 209) – SR – Auburn
39- Jamar Summers – (6-0, 190) – SR – Connecticut
40- Jonathan Crawford – (6-2, 203) – JR – Indiana

ForeverChiefs58
10-20-2017, 10:44 PM
CORNERBACK

1- Tarvarus McFadden – (6-2, 198) – JR – Florida State
2- Denzel Ward – (5-10, 191) – JR – Ohio State
3- Jaire Alexander – (5-11, 192) – JR – Louisville
4- Iman Marshall – (6-1, 205) – JR – USC
5- Damon Arnette – (6-0, 195) – RSO – Ohio State
6- Kevin Toliver – (6-3, 204) – JR – LSU
7- Anthony Averett – (6-0, 185) – SR – Alabama
8- Donte Jackson – (5-11, 175) – JR – LSU
9- Quenton Meeks – (6-2, 197) – JR – Stanford
10- Tony Brown – (6-0, 198) – SR – Alabama
11- Deion Harris – (6-3, 180) – SR – North Dakota
12- Chris Westry – (6-4, 195) – JR – Kentucky
13- Jordan Thomas – (6-0, 185) – SR – Oklahoma
14- Greg Stroman – (6-0, 181) – SR – Virginia Tech
15- Rashard Fant – (5-10, 180) – SR – Indiana
16- Shaun Crawford – (5-9, 176) – RSO – Notre Dame
17- M.J. Stewart – (6-0, 205) – SR – North Carolina
18- Alijah Holder – (6-2, 191) – JR – Stanford
19- Juan Thornhill – (6-1, 200) – JR – Virginia
20- Joshua Kalu – (6-1, 195) – SR – Nebraska
21- Adonis Alexander – (6-3, 197) – JR – Virginia Tech
22- Carlton Davis – (6-1, 203) – JR – Auburn
23- Brandon Facyson – (6-2, 197) – SR – Virginia Tech
24- Chris Jones – (6-0, 195) – SR – Nebraska
25- Duke Dawson – (5-10, 202) – SR – Florida
26- Isaiah Oliver – (6-1, 195) – JR – Colorado
27- Heath Harding – (5-10, 190) – SR – Miami (OH)
28- Isaiah Langley – (6-0, 175) – JR – USC
29- Dee Delaney – (6-1, 193) – SR – Miami
30- Darius Phillips – (5-10, 190) – SR – Western Michigan
31- Nick Nelson – (5-11, 208) – JR – Wisconsin
32- Marcell Harris – (6-0, 208) – SR – Florida
33- Kareem Orr – (5-11, 195) – JR – Chattanooga
34- Vayante Copeland – (5-11, 190) – JR – x-Michigan State
35- Holton Hill – (6-3, 200) – JR – Texas
36- Deatrick Nichols – (5-10, 189) – SR – South Florida
37- Blace Brown – (6-0, 182) – JR – Troy
38- Aaron Davis – (6-1, 195) – SR – Georgia
39- Arrion Springs – (6-0, 205) – SR – Oregon
40- Kamrin Moore – (5-11, 200) – SR – Boston College

ForeverChiefs58
10-20-2017, 10:45 PM
INSIDE LINEBACKER

1- Cameron Smith – (6-2, 250) – JR – USC
2- T.J. Edwards – (6-1, 244) – JR – Wisconsin
3- Shaun Dion Hamilton – (6-0, 235) – SR – Alabama
4- Micah Kiser – (6-2, 240) – SR – Virginia
5- Azeem Victor – (6-3, 231) – SR – Washington
6- Josey Jewell – (6-2, 236) – SR – Iowa
7- Leo Lewis – (6-2, 235) – RSO – Mississippi State
8- Natrez Patrick – (6-3, 234) – JR – Georgia
9- Kendall Joseph – (6-0, 230) – JR – Clemson
10- Jack Cichy – (6-2, 234) – SR – Wisconsin
11- Rashaan Evans – (6-3, 234) – SR – Alabama
12- Jason Cabinda – (6-1, 234) – SR – Penn State
13- Kenny Young – (6-1, 235) – SR – UCLA
14- Andre Smith – (6-0, 240) – JR – North Carolina
15- Jordan Jones – (6-2, 221) – JR – Kentucky
16- Donnie Alexander – (6-1, 230) – SR – LSU
17- Nick DeLuca – (6-3, 245) – SR – North Dakota State
18- Auggie Sanchez – (6-2, 245) – SR – South Florida
19- Jahlani Tavai – (6-4, 235) – JR – Hawaii
20- Bobby Okereke – (6-3, 234) – JR – Stanford
21- Quentin Poling – (6-0, 231) – SR – Ohio
22- Otaro Alaka – (6-3, 240) – JR – Texas A&M
23- Andrew Motuapuaka – (6-0, 236) – SR – Virginia Tech
24- Nyles Morgan – (6-1, 235) – SR – Notre Dame
25- Keishawn Bierria – (6-1, 223) – SR – Washington
26- Connor Strachan – (6-0, 230) – SR – Boston College
27- Genard Avery – (6-1, 255) – SR – Memphis
28- Chad Whitener – (6-0, 240) – SR – Oklahoma State
29- Ro’Derrick Hoskins – (6-3, 240) – SR – Florida State
30- Peyton Pelluer – (6-0, 225) – SR – Washington State
31- Eric Boggs – (6-3, 236) – SR – Appalachian State
32- Reggie Carter – (6-1, 230) – SR – Georgia
33- Kevin Palma – (6-2, 248) – SR – Stanford
34- Taylor Young – (5-9, 225) – SR – Baylor
35- Deshaun Davis – (5-11, 246) – SR – Auburn
36- Jermaine Carter – (6-0, 228) – SR – Maryland
37- Junior Joseph – (6-1, 242) – SR – Connecticut
38- Stacy Thomas – (6-1, 242) – SR – Louisville
39- Matthew Adams – (6-1, 237) – SR – Houston
40- Jordan Williams – (6-0, 230) – SR – East Carolina

BryanBusby
10-21-2017, 07:33 PM
If the Chiefs pick anything but the top ILB on the board with their first pick, Veech should be fired out of a cannon directly into the goddamn sun.

staylor26
10-21-2017, 09:19 PM
If the Chiefs pick anything but the top ILB on the board with their first pick, Veech should be fired out of a cannon directly into the goddamn sun.

Eh I think Eligwe is going to be a stud

Would be nice to have two thougb

kcchiefsus
10-21-2017, 09:23 PM
As long as it's not another stupid pick like Kpass.

RunKC
10-21-2017, 10:02 PM
Right now it's gotta be a cover DB. We play man-to-man coverage as much as anybody and it's failed us.

BryanBusby
10-21-2017, 10:08 PM
Eh I think Eligwe is going to be a stud

Would be nice to have two thougb
I think Ragland is a brokedick, so would like to see someone taken high to pair with Eligwe. KPL is fine if nothing pans out, but I think we can do better.

Roquon Smith with a little more beef (if we can flip Alex for a 1) and Eligwe would make a very promising duo.

ForeverChiefs58
10-22-2017, 11:26 AM
INSIDE LINEBACKER

1- Cameron Smith – (6-2, 250) – JR – USC
2- T.J. Edwards – (6-1, 244) – JR – Wisconsin
3- Shaun Dion Hamilton – (6-0, 235) – SR – Alabama
4- Micah Kiser – (6-2, 240) – SR – Virginia
5- Azeem Victor – (6-3, 231) – SR – Washington
6- Josey Jewell – (6-2, 236) – SR – Iowa
7- Leo Lewis – (6-2, 235) – RSO – Mississippi State
8- Natrez Patrick – (6-3, 234) – JR – Georgia
9- Kendall Joseph – (6-0, 230) – JR – Clemson
10- Jack Cichy – (6-2, 234) – SR – Wisconsin
11- Rashaan Evans – (6-3, 234) – SR – Alabama
12- Jason Cabinda – (6-1, 234) – SR – Penn State
13- Kenny Young – (6-1, 235) – SR – UCLA
14- Andre Smith – (6-0, 240) – JR – North Carolina
15- Jordan Jones – (6-2, 221) – JR – Kentucky
16- Donnie Alexander – (6-1, 230) – SR – LSU
17- Nick DeLuca – (6-3, 245) – SR – North Dakota State
18- Auggie Sanchez – (6-2, 245) – SR – South Florida
19- Jahlani Tavai – (6-4, 235) – JR – Hawaii
20- Bobby Okereke – (6-3, 234) – JR – Stanford
21- Quentin Poling – (6-0, 231) – SR – Ohio
22- Otaro Alaka – (6-3, 240) – JR – Texas A&M
23- Andrew Motuapuaka – (6-0, 236) – SR – Virginia Tech
24- Nyles Morgan – (6-1, 235) – SR – Notre Dame
25- Keishawn Bierria – (6-1, 223) – SR – Washington
26- Connor Strachan – (6-0, 230) – SR – Boston College
27- Genard Avery – (6-1, 255) – SR – Memphis
28- Chad Whitener – (6-0, 240) – SR – Oklahoma State
29- Ro’Derrick Hoskins – (6-3, 240) – SR – Florida State
30- Peyton Pelluer – (6-0, 225) – SR – Washington State
31- Eric Boggs – (6-3, 236) – SR – Appalachian State
32- Reggie Carter – (6-1, 230) – SR – Georgia
33- Kevin Palma – (6-2, 248) – SR – Stanford
34- Taylor Young – (5-9, 225) – SR – Baylor
35- Deshaun Davis – (5-11, 246) – SR – Auburn
36- Jermaine Carter – (6-0, 228) – SR – Maryland
37- Junior Joseph – (6-1, 242) – SR – Connecticut
38- Stacy Thomas – (6-1, 242) – SR – Louisville
39- Matthew Adams – (6-1, 237) – SR – Houston
40- Jordan Williams – (6-0, 230) – SR – East Carolina


Here are another sites prospects for LB’s

Linebackers

1. Malik Jefferson, Texas (Junior)

– Jefferson still has to show he can consistently stack and shed blocks, but nonetheless, he is still an unreal talent. With his freakish athleticism and sideline-to-sideline range, Jefferson is always around the ball making plays happen. Whether it is in coverage or run support, Jefferson’s athletic tools allow him to be in position on almost every play. His instincts are underdeveloped at this point, but as he continues to learn and develop, there is no telling how good this kid could be. He gets the slight edge over Cameron Smith because of his ceiling despite projecting as a WILL, as opposed to Smith projecting as a MIKE.

2. Cameron Smith, USC (Junior)

– The best pure linebacker in college football is Cameron Smith, period. His instincts and awareness are unparalleled at the linebacker position, as he sees plays happen before the ball is actually snapped. For Smith, the game just comes easy to him, and I think he will adjust to the next level seamlessly in terms of processing. Some question Smith’s “limited” range, but I’ve seen him make plays all over the field. Some team is going to get their next defensive captain with this guy.

3. Jerome Baker, Ohio State (Junior)

– While not the athlete Malik Jefferson is, Jerome Baker is a force to be reckoned with in zone coverage. He is smart and rangy, able to make up ground and close on ball carriers in a pinch. He also needs to get stronger in order to improve against contact, but the NFL is going to value him as a WILL and try to keep him as free as possible, highlighting his strengths.

4. Roquan Smith, Georgia (Junior)

– Roquan Smith has made quite the statement so far in 2017, dominating in nearly every game as a superb off-ball linebacker for the Bulldogs. Some are calling him the next Deion Jones with his lack of size, but excellent mobility for the position to close and cover. If he continues to make plays at his current rate this season, there is reason to believe he will fly up draft boards.

5. Shaun Dion Hamilton, Alabama (Senior)

– While overshadowed by first-round inside linebacker Reuben Foster in 2016, Shaun Dion Hamilton is the next Crimson Tide linebacker that NFL scouts are going to value highly. His instincts and power are more developed than some of the names on this list, but he is not quite the athlete of Jefferson or Baker.

The next three prospects: Josey Jewell, Azeem Victor, Tegray Scales

ForeverChiefs58
10-22-2017, 11:27 AM
CORNERBACK

1- Tarvarus McFadden – (6-2, 198) – JR – Florida State
2- Denzel Ward – (5-10, 191) – JR – Ohio State
3- Jaire Alexander – (5-11, 192) – JR – Louisville
4- Iman Marshall – (6-1, 205) – JR – USC
5- Damon Arnette – (6-0, 195) – RSO – Ohio State
6- Kevin Toliver – (6-3, 204) – JR – LSU
7- Anthony Averett – (6-0, 185) – SR – Alabama
8- Donte Jackson – (5-11, 175) – JR – LSU
9- Quenton Meeks – (6-2, 197) – JR – Stanford
10- Tony Brown – (6-0, 198) – SR – Alabama
11- Deion Harris – (6-3, 180) – SR – North Dakota
12- Chris Westry – (6-4, 195) – JR – Kentucky
13- Jordan Thomas – (6-0, 185) – SR – Oklahoma
14- Greg Stroman – (6-0, 181) – SR – Virginia Tech
15- Rashard Fant – (5-10, 180) – SR – Indiana
16- Shaun Crawford – (5-9, 176) – RSO – Notre Dame
17- M.J. Stewart – (6-0, 205) – SR – North Carolina
18- Alijah Holder – (6-2, 191) – JR – Stanford
19- Juan Thornhill – (6-1, 200) – JR – Virginia
20- Joshua Kalu – (6-1, 195) – SR – Nebraska
21- Adonis Alexander – (6-3, 197) – JR – Virginia Tech
22- Carlton Davis – (6-1, 203) – JR – Auburn
23- Brandon Facyson – (6-2, 197) – SR – Virginia Tech
24- Chris Jones – (6-0, 195) – SR – Nebraska
25- Duke Dawson – (5-10, 202) – SR – Florida
26- Isaiah Oliver – (6-1, 195) – JR – Colorado
27- Heath Harding – (5-10, 190) – SR – Miami (OH)
28- Isaiah Langley – (6-0, 175) – JR – USC
29- Dee Delaney – (6-1, 193) – SR – Miami
30- Darius Phillips – (5-10, 190) – SR – Western Michigan
31- Nick Nelson – (5-11, 208) – JR – Wisconsin
32- Marcell Harris – (6-0, 208) – SR – Florida
33- Kareem Orr – (5-11, 195) – JR – Chattanooga
34- Vayante Copeland – (5-11, 190) – JR – x-Michigan State
35- Holton Hill – (6-3, 200) – JR – Texas
36- Deatrick Nichols – (5-10, 189) – SR – South Florida
37- Blace Brown – (6-0, 182) – JR – Troy
38- Aaron Davis – (6-1, 195) – SR – Georgia
39- Arrion Springs – (6-0, 205) – SR – Oregon
40- Kamrin Moore – (5-11, 200) – SR – Boston College


Cornerbacks

1. Tarvarus McFadden, Florida State (Junior)

– If you are banking on upside, length, and the value of a cornerback who can possibly match the Mike Evans and Dez Bryant receivers of the world in the red zone, McFadden is your guy. He is a jump ball eraser. His calling card is at the LOS in Press because of his superb length, but he also has the athleticism and COD skills to mirror in off man coverage. If he continues to develop his overall game, technique, and timing, don’t be surprised if he ends up becoming a player similar to Xavier Rhodes. His upside gives him a slight edge over Alexander, but there is little to no gap because the latter is a plug and play starter inside or out.

2. Jaire Alexander, Louisville (Junior)

– My best comparison for Jaire Alexander has always been someone like Chris Harris Jr. because of his ability to play inside or out, press man, off man, and zone, despite his lack of size. His ability to change direction and transition seamlessly both laterally and vertically is what makes him so hard to shake. He is always on the hip pocket, and his calculated ball skills give him the chance to make a play at the catch point. One of the cleanest skill sets I have seen at the position in some time. Long-term durability is the question here.

3. Quenton Meeks, Stanford (Junior)

– I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Quenton Meeks is one of the smartest and most instinctive cornerbacks I have ever scouted. You can just tell how much time he spends in the film room to get better at his craft. That is the kind of football player I want on my team. His timing at the LOS in Press is inconsistent, but his length and play strength cause major disruption. In Off, he is a calculated risk taker, and his ability to anticipate makes it seem like he knows the route better than the receiver. For a player his size at 6’2, he has uncanny quickness and COD skills to stay in phase on the hip pocket. The gap between the first two and Meeks is much smaller than one might think. In fact, I would grade them as 1A, 1B and 1C.

4. Adonis Alexander, Virginia Tech (Junior)

– The freak of this cornerback class is Virginia Tech’s Adonis Alexander. At 6’3, he simply overwhelms receivers at the LOS with his elite arm length and unreal play strength. There are several plays where he either throws somebody on the ground or into the sideline, just ask Zay Jones. He is wild and impatient, as he will grab if initially beat at the LOS. He is easily baited to lunge forward, but when he gets his hands on you, the play is over. Off man coverage is predictably a struggle for Alexander, but he is a smart Zone player, especially in Cover 2 where he is able to showcase his closing speed and reactionary quickness underneath. He is the wild card of this cornerback class, and the Combine is going to be huge for his draft stock.

5. Iman Marshall, USC (Junior)

– Iman Marshall is undoubtedly one of the most talented cornerbacks in this draft class. He has all of the tools. I just want to see him put it all together. He mauls receivers in Press, but gets away with a lot of grabbing and overaggressiveness. His back to the ball skill set is near the top, as he competes at the catch point each play with his superb length and leaping ability. His long speed is questionable, but he does recover quick in both Man and Zone to get back in position. Marshall is the boom or bust prospect of this class because of his lack of consistency, but if he can put it all together, watch out.

The next three prospects: Duke Dawson, Isaiah Oliver, Carlton Davis

ForeverChiefs58
10-22-2017, 11:29 AM
Don’t know much about them, but here is a list of prospects

SAFETY

1- Derwin James – (6-3, 211) – RSO – Florida State
2- Ronnie Harrison – (6-3, 214) – JR – Alabama
3- Minkah Fitzpatrick – (6-1, 202) – JR – Alabama
4- Quin Blanding – (6-2, 210) – SR – Virginia
5- Tanner Muse – (6-2, 220) – RSO – Clemson
6- Damon Webb – (5-11, 195) – SR – Ohio State
7- Jordan Whitehead – (5-11, 195) – JR – Pittsburgh
8- Armani Watts – (5-11, 205) – SR – Texas A&M
9- Marcus Allen – (6-2, 205) – SR – Penn State
10- Jessie Bates – (6-2, 195) – RSO – Wake Forest
11- Chase Hansen – (6-3, 220) – JR – Utah
12- Andrew Wingard – (6-0, 209) – JR – Wyoming
13- Todd Kelly – (5-11, 200) – SR – Tennessee
14- Brandon Bryant – (6-1, 213) – JR – Mississippi State
15- Kieron Williams – (6-1, 195) – SR – Nebraska
16- Marvell Tell – (6-2, 195) – JR – USC
17- Godwin Igwebuike – (6-0, 212) – SR – Northwestern
18- Trey Marshall – (6-0, 210) – SR – Florida State
19- Drue Tranquill – (6-2, 231) – JR – Notre Dame
20- Mike Edwards – (6-0, 200) – JR – Kentucky
21- Javon Hagan – (6-0, 211) – RSO – Ohio
22- Chucky Williams – (6-2, 216) – SR – Louisville
23- Terrell Edmunds – (6-2, 220) – JR – Virginia Tech
24- Nick Washington – (6-0, 198) – SR – Florida
25- Van Smith – (5-11, 195) – JR – Clemson
26- Tyree Robinson – (6-3, 199) – SR – Oregon
27- Donovan Wilson – (6-1, 202) – SR – Texas A&M
28- Steven Parker – (6-1, 204) – SR – Oklahoma
29- Donnie Miles – (5-11, 210) – SR – North Carolina
30- John Battle – (6-3, 201) – JR – LSU
31- Dominick Sanders – (6-0, 200) – SR – Georgia
32- Sean Chandler – (6-0, 195) – SR – Temple
33- Justin Reid – (6-1, 204) – JR – Stanford
34- Kyzir White – (6-2, 216) – SR – West Virginia
35- Chris Hawkins – (5-11, 190) – SR – USC
36- JoJo McIntosh – (6-1, 219) – JR – Washington
37- Ed Paris – (6-1, 210) – SR – LSU
38- Tray Matthews – (6-1, 209) – SR – Auburn
39- Jamar Summers – (6-0, 190) – SR – Connecticut
40- Jonathan Crawford – (6-2, 203) – JR – Indiana


Safeties

1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama (Junior)

– Some may slot in Fitzpatrick with the cornerback group, but I think he is much better playing forward, as opposed to with his back to the ball. From timing, tracking and overall eye discipline, he is better suited as a safety than cornerback. He has the instincts, ball skills and dynamic range that scouts look for in a deep middle player, but he also has the physicality, closing speed and run support discipline that they also look for in a box safety. Fitzpatrick is the total package.

2. Derwin James, Florida State (Junior)

– Think of Jabrill Peppers with more safety experience when you hear the name Derwin James. He is crazy athletic, but his instincts and anticipation skills are still developing. His competitive toughness and physicality leap off of the screen, and you can just tell that his spirit is contagious. James is going to be a hot commodity at the Combine for both good and bad reasons because of his athleticism and injury history.

3. Ronnie Harrison, Alabama (Junior)

– Ronnie Harrison is the prototype strong safety. With his hard hitting style, downhill explosiveness and competitive toughness, Harrison is a plug and play box player at the next level. He is likely never going to be a single-high player, but he has shown value in man coverage. I could definitely see him matching up with the league’s move tight ends at the next level. There are some who see him as a similar player to Landon Collins coming out.

4. Armani Watts, Texas A&M (Senior)

– His teammate and fellow safety Justin Evans was drafted in the second round, but I believe Armani Watts was the better player on that Texas A&M team. He can ideally play both over the top and down in the box because of his well-rounded skill set. His closing speed is unreal, but he can get a bit overaggressive, especially with his angles. In today’s NFL, the safety position is growing to be interchangeable, and Watts fits that mold.

5. Godwin Igwebuike, Northwestern (Senior)

– Godwin Igwebuike is one of my favorite players to watch on film because he brings it on every single snap. His calling card is in the deep middle as a centerfielder who can run sideline to sideline and play the ball in the air with his instincts, range and ball skills. On the other hand, he is also a reliable run defender who takes great angles and does not lunge too early on his wrap up. The Senior Bowl is going to be huge for his draft stock.

The next three prospects: Brandon Bryant, Marcus Allen, Kyzir White

Iconic
10-22-2017, 12:52 PM
Right now it's gotta be a cover DB. We play man-to-man coverage as much as anybody and it's failed us.

Yeah, as much as I want the ILB spot taken care of CB is a more glaring problem. I think we have the bodies in KPL Ragland and Eligwe to function without DJ next year. We can put a band-aid there for now and deal with it later. CB isn't the same though, we are literally getting ass fucked every game because of it.

BryanBusby
10-22-2017, 01:38 PM
That band-aid is so cool and good that a guy with bubble gum for legs is still logging an excessive amount of snaps at ilb.

kccrow
10-22-2017, 01:42 PM
My favorites at this point are Quenton Meeks at CB, Armani Watts at FS, and Azeem Victor at ILB. I don't think the first two are there unless the Chiefs get a 2nd by trading Alex or by trading up higher in the 2nd.

Couch-Potato
10-27-2017, 08:26 AM
CB/DB should be first, wouldn't mind ILB or OLB either.

BryanBusby
10-27-2017, 03:07 PM
I feel that this draft is somewhat deep at corner. Nothing like last year, but decent.

I'd probably go ILB if we can flip Alex for a high pick, CB than DL.

O.city
10-27-2017, 03:36 PM
Gotta get more athletic in the front 7. Look at jacksonvilles front 7. Freaks everywhere

RunKC
10-28-2017, 02:39 PM
Would love to replace our old Texas ILB with the new Texas ILB.

Malik Jefferson looks awesome

BryanBusby
10-28-2017, 04:16 PM
Malik Jefferson is good, but I'm not sure he declares withoit a 1st round grade and we'll see if he gets one.

KChiefs1
10-29-2017, 09:38 AM
Need to find a player who is an incredible talent but has something that drops them to the 2nd round.

OldSchool
10-30-2017, 02:14 AM
Need to find a player who is an incredible talent but has something that drops them to the 2nd round.

Who wants to stalk a top 10 prospect and sprinkle a little pot in their food on the plane ride to the NFL Combine?:hmmm:

ForeverChiefs58
10-30-2017, 09:09 AM
Who wants to stalk a top 10 prospect and sprinkle a little pot in their food on the plane ride to the NFL Combine?:hmmm:

Considering they have people in the NFL whose job is to read the lips of the coordinator calling plays, and they have people who try and spy on practices just to get an advantage to win. I would think this would also be something they should at least consider if they don’t actively try.

Of course some prospects would be easier than others.

kccrow
10-30-2017, 12:35 PM
Need to find a player who is an incredible talent but has something that drops them to the 2nd round.

Azeem Victor. He's having a bad year after having leg surgery at the end of last year. He had a rod put in his leg. He was being considered a 1st round talent and, perhaps, the best ILB in the country a year ago before the injury. Sometimes it takes a guy a full year to really recover strength, speed, and confidence. He could drop to the 3rd after this season's performance unless things really turn around at the end of the year and into the offseason. I'd definitely take a chance if he drops a bit.

Black Bob
10-31-2017, 04:54 PM
I would love to get Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia. He's basically Patrick Willis. Unfortunately, most mocks have him going top 15. If we could trade Alex and get him that would be sweet.

GloucesterChief
10-31-2017, 04:59 PM
I would love to get Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia. He's basically Patrick Willis. Unfortunately, most mocks have him going top 15. If we could trade Alex and get him that would be sweet.

We might get a mid round 1 for him. The teams that would be interested are on the cusp and wouldn't want to wait for a rookie QB to get their footing ie Jax, Vikings, Bills, maybe DC if they don't resign Cousins

ForeverChiefs58
11-02-2017, 10:04 AM
Defensive prospects

DE’s
http://walterfootball.com/draft2019DE.php


Defensive Tackles
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018DT.php



Nose Tackes
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018NT.php



3-4 Outside Linebackers
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018OLB3-4.php



3-4 Devensive Ends
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018DE3-4.php



Outside Linbackers
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018OLB.php



Inside Linebackers
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018ILB.php



Cornerbacks
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018CB.php



Safeties
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018S.php

Kiimo
11-02-2017, 02:23 PM
Uh Holton Hollywood Hill will be one of the first 3 cornerbacks drafted and I hope we trade Alex Smith to Jacksonville and use their first round pick to take him.

ForeverChiefs58
11-02-2017, 09:44 PM
Not having a first rounder hurts. Not sure if they try to trade up into the first.
Need to come out of the draft with a few starters though

OldSchool
11-03-2017, 01:38 PM
OLB or CB.

Still haven't found a guy to play opposite Peters and also haven't found Hali's replacement.

ForeverChiefs58
01-07-2018, 07:39 AM
Now that the season is over, I would say pass rusher is our most pressing need. Hali shouldn’t be back. Cannot count on Dee Ford.

Something is either wrong with Houston, or the rest of the nfl figured him out. It could also be the way he is used. A defensive coordinator that doesn’t believe him to be the next prime time would be great. If his greatest skill is rushing the passer, then ffs have him do it every time the QB drops back! Having your best pass rusher run down the field getting him tired in coverage doesn’t confuse a QB, it helps them. If you are an offense, you hope the defense takes away their own best pass rushing. Most teams aren’t that stupid.

Anyway:

Chiefs really need a couple pass rushers, CB, safety, DL, a stud MLB, OL, WR,

And ffs, someone calling the plays who knows how to run the freaking ball, and use the freaking clock!!!!

Buehler445
01-07-2018, 12:26 PM
Knowing our luck they won’t pick anybody on D.

Because Chiefs

hitchief
01-07-2018, 05:17 PM
Now that the season is over, I would say pass rusher is our most pressing need. Hali shouldn’t be back. Cannot count on Dee Ford.

Something is either wrong with Houston, or the rest of the nfl figured him out. It could also be the way he is used. A defensive coordinator that doesn’t believe him to be the next prime time would be great. If his greatest skill is rushing the passer, then ffs have him do it every time the QB drops back! Having your best pass rusher run down the field getting him tired in coverage doesn’t confuse a QB, it helps them. If you are an offense, you hope the defense takes away their own best pass rushing. Most teams aren’t that stupid.

Anyway:

Chiefs really need a couple pass rushers, CB, safety, DL, a stud MLB, OL, WR,

And ffs, someone calling the plays who knows how to run the freaking ball, and use the freaking clock!!!!

Very good take on needs!

With the limited draft choices, its going to be tough to make headway this year so I'm thinking a 3 year deal to get this D in any playoff shape whatsoever.

ForeverChiefs58
01-23-2018, 01:03 AM
No. 2 cornerback

You can argue that pass rusher is the most important, but it was the Chiefs’ cornerback play which frustrated me the most in 2017. The constant musical chairs of Darrelle Revis, Terrance Mitchell, Steven Nelson, Phillip Gaines and Kenneth Acker confused everyone and accomplished nothing in the long run.

Looking ahead to 2018, I’m not confident in any of those guys being the Chiefs’ No. 2 CB. Mitchell is too inconsistent and gets burnt easily, Nelson belongs in the slot, Revis is too old and costs too much, Acker is a role player, and Gaines doesn’t even deserve a roster spot.

Simply put, the Chiefs need to find a guy to start opposite Marcus Peters and need to stick with that guy for the whole season. They failed to find one in 2017. The team can’t take another year of indecision at the position.

Pass rusher/edge defender

This one is just as important as No. 2 CB. Dee Ford has proven himself to be unreliable even when he’s healthy, Frank Zombo is only good at stopping the run (except during the playoffs, apparently), and Tamba Hali barely sees the field.

It’s possible that Tanoh Kpassagnon takes a second-year leap but the Chiefs can’t solely bank on that for 2018. Free agent pass rushers cost a ton so the best way to find an edge rusher will be in the draft, preferably in the first three rounds.

Defensive tackle

Bennie Logan is a free agent and probably won’t return unless he wants to take a massive pay cut. The Chiefs’ currently-rostered defensive tackles are Justin Hamilton, Josh Augusta, Mike Purcell and T.Y. McGill, and none of those guys are starting material.

Allen Bailey and Chris Jones are mainly defensive ends so they aren’t the answer. Rakeem Nunez-Roches will likely be re-signed but he’s not a true DT either. The Chiefs will need to find someone in free agency or the draft to replace Logan.

Safety depth
Eric Berry will return in 2018 which is awesome, but 2017 showed that the Chiefs aren’t as deep at safety as they initially thought. Daniel Sorensen and Ron Parker both had a rough year. Sorensen is much better as a role player than a starter. Parker might end up getting cut to save cap room.

It might be a good idea to draft a safety early to provide competition at the position and maybe replace Parker in the near future.

Inside linebacker (if free agent ILBs aren’t signed)

This depends on what the Chiefs do with Kevin Pierre-Louis, Ramik Wilson and Terrance Smith, all who are some type of free agent. My guess is all three will be re-signed. If that happens, the Chiefs probably don’t need to draft an ILB high, but could possibly spend a pick on one in the late rounds.

Left guard/interior offensive line depth

This one depends on whether the Chiefs will re-sign Zach Fulton who is a free agent. He did a great job in 2017 in place of center Mitch Morse and others so the Chiefs will probably try to get him back.

Even if Fulton is signed, the Chiefs could use an extra guy to compete for the left guard spot. Don’t be surprised to see K.C. snag a versatile lineman in the middle rounds of the 2018 draft.

No. 2 tight end competition

This isn’t necessarily a need, but I’m just about tired of seeing the Chiefs rely on Demetrius Harris to catch passes in crucial situations. The Harris experiment isn’t working and it’s time for it to be over.

I’d love to see K.C. find a tight end in the middle/late rounds or free agency to back up Travis Kelce. When Kelce went down during the playoff game, the Chiefs didn’t have anyone step up at the position as a pass-catcher. They need another reliable TE just in case.

KChiefs1
02-20-2018, 07:26 PM
Good listen.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-nfl/id1139967050

Tribal Warfare
02-20-2018, 09:27 PM
Nose Tackle

ForeverChiefs58
03-20-2018, 08:50 AM
Chiefs need to draft 2 CB’s, and 2 safeties.

When the chiefs had Peters at CB, they desperately needed 2 CB’s. One for slot, and another to play opposite Peters.

They got Fuller to play the slot. So they only needed to get one CB to play opposite Peters.
They then traded Peters and now need 2 CB’s.

Same with safety. They needed to draft a S for other side and for Berry to groom for years. Last couple seasons, when Berry can’t play we are screwed.

Very important to also need to get a couple pass rushers, and a NT


On offense we need a OL G, TE and RB

RB should be found the same way they found ware and west. Undrafted or 6th, 7th round.

O.city
03-20-2018, 02:27 PM
Justin Reid

MotherfuckerJones
03-20-2018, 02:32 PM
I’m gona go with Veach making a trade up for Ronnie Harrison S Alabama

Stryker
03-20-2018, 08:07 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000922149/article/fiveround-mock-draft-buffalo-bills-trade-up-for-baker-mayfield

Thoughts on this mock??

Stryker
03-20-2018, 08:12 PM
54. Chiefs: Sam Hubbard, EDGE, Ohio State

78. Chiefs: Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State

86. Chiefs: DeShon Elliott, S, Texas

122. Chiefs: Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech

124. Chiefs: Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State

staylor26
03-21-2018, 07:08 AM
Replace Ateman with a TE and I love that draft

KChiefs1
03-21-2018, 07:58 AM
Kiper & McShay on the AFC West.

iTunes:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/first-draft/id304434112?mt=2&i=1000406859769

staylor26
03-21-2018, 05:16 PM
I’m thinking there’s a decent chance that Isaiah Oliver makes it to 54, so I’ll say him.

The Franchise
03-21-2018, 05:42 PM
Justin Reid

I fucking hope so.

Chief Roundup
03-21-2018, 06:24 PM
BPA that fits a position of need. S, CB, EDGE

KChiefs1
03-21-2018, 07:43 PM
One of these dudes.



Arden Key*, 3-4 OLB, LSU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 260.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3.

2/24/18: Team sources think Key has high first-round talent and that he could be a devastating pass-rusher in the NFL. In a survey of league sources, Key was considered to be among the elite talents of this draft class. However, teams have major off-the-field concerns with Key and think they could cause him to slide in the 2018 NFL Draft. Key's off-the-field issues are similar to Randy Gregory or Tim Williams. While there are concerns, scouts also say that Key loves football and has worked on his own with pass-rushing guru Chuck Smith to develop his skills. Key has to interview extremely well in order to be a high pick, and team sources feel that Key has a much shot at panning out in the NFL if he goes to a secluded team like Green Bay or Buffalo to help keep him out of trouble.

Key had a slow start to the 2017 season. He missed two games and had to work himself back into playing shape after shoulder surgery limited his offseason training. Midway through the year, Key started to return to being a dynamic speed rusher off the edge. A late-season knee injury also knocked him out of a few games. In 2017, Key totaled 33 tackles with four sacks and a forced fumble. He put together impressive games against Mississippi State, Auburn and Florida. Key made a sack to clinch the comeback win over Auburn. He was phenomenal against Alabama, and the Crimson Tide couldn't block him.

9/1/17: Key was one of the best players in college football in 2016. He recorded 56 tackles with 14.5 for a loss, 12 sacks, three forced fumbles and three passes broken up on the year. He flashed a ton of potential as a freshman for LSU, totaling 41 tackles with 6.5 for a loss, five sacks and one pass broken up. Key is a dangerous pass-rusher with excellent speed and the ability to bend around the corner. He is lightning fast off the edge and has a ton of upside to develop.




Sam Hubbard, 3-4 OLB, Ohio State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 266.
Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3.

2/24/18: In 2017, Hubbard collected 43 tackles with 13.5 tackles for a loss and seven sacks. He had good moments, but still didn't always play up to his great skill set and wasn't consistent enough.

9/1/17: In 2016, Hubbard collected 46 tackles with eight for a loss, 3.5 sacks and two passes batted. While rotating into the game as a sophomore, he showed his potential with 6.5 sacks. Hubbard also had 28 tackles with an interception. The senior could explode in 2017 as he has an early round skill set. Hubbard has a lot of physical talent, but he hasn't produced up to it. He could rise high if that changes as a senior.




Harold Landry, 3-4 OLB, Boston College
Height: 6-3. Weight: 250.
Projected 40 Time: 4.67.
Projected Round (2018): 2-3.

2/24/18: Multiple teams sources told me that Landry belongs on the second day of the 2018 NFL Draft. They labeled his senior year tape as not impressive. Landry had a big drop in his pass-rush production year over year and put together some ugly games in run defense. Sources say that Landry is smaller than his listed numbers of 6-foot-3, 250 pounds, too. They believe he is an inch or two shorter and weighs in the 240s, which makes him more of a linebacker's body type for the NFL. Teams that run a 4-3 defense have concerns about Landry holding up on the edge because he is very undersized to be a base end. More than one NFL source sees Landry as a second-round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft.

In 2017, Landry had 38 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks and two passes broken up. The senior missed a few games with an ankle injury late in the year.

Landry was a liability versus the run against the Fighting Irish, recording only one tackle while Notre Dame ran for seven touchdowns and had two players exceed 200 yards rushing. On the vast majority of his plays, Landry went against a freshman right tackle, yet was ineffective. Landry also lost his few reps against Mike McGlinchey, plus got rag dolled by Quenton Nelson. It was an ugly performance for Landry. He was slightly better against Clemson.

9/1/17: Landry had an impressive junior season as an edge rusher for Boston College, recording 16.5 sacks, 22 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, four passes batted and 51 tackles. He contributed as a sophomore with 60 stops, and 4.5 sacks. Landry could fit best as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL. A general manager told me they thought Landry would have been a late first- or second-round pick if he had entered the 2017 NFL Draft.

Tribal Warfare
03-21-2018, 08:47 PM
If Veach and Dorsey are like minded the Chiefs NT pick will be BJ Hill of NC State. Hill has the measurables and was a Senior Bowl stand out.

DL Foley Fatukasi from Connecticut is another SPARQ hero if Veach loves metrics as much as Dorsey

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/

re-pasteing from the combine thread

Chargem
03-22-2018, 03:42 AM
If an edge guy falls to the chiefs at 54 I won’t be annoyed, but looking past the coming year corner and DL seem like bigger long term holes to be filled. I would almost rather this year was spent trying to see if kpass could be the starting edge guy once ford is gone, and if not draft a first rounder to pair with Houston the following year (2019 draft)

Tribal Warfare
03-22-2018, 10:57 AM
http://m.chiefs.com/news/article-2/Latest-NFL-Mock-Draft-Could-These-Five-Prospects-Help-the-Chiefs-/0eb61f0c-21a3-4376-abd5-7921e8df4e20

O.city
03-22-2018, 12:22 PM
I wouldn't mind trading up for Justin Reid. I think he's fucking good.

gonefishin53
03-22-2018, 07:37 PM
I like NFLDraftScout best for draft sites. Their player rankings have these defensive players available at pick #54: Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays St. (#55); Reid, FS, Stanford (#59); Hill, DT, NC St. (#63); Allen, FS, Penn St. (#67); Jackson, CB, LSU (#71). I'd go for BJ Hill, DT, NC St. at pick #54 because I like the safeties available in rounds 3 and 4 more than DTs available in rounds 3 and 4.

Chief Northman
03-24-2018, 09:53 AM
2. Carlton Davis - Corner
3. Nathan Shepherd - DL
3. Armani Watts - S
4. Jeff Holland - Edge
4. Wyatt Teller - OG

RunKC
03-24-2018, 10:31 AM
2. Carlton Davis - Corner
3. Nathan Shepherd - DL
3. Armani Watts - S
4. Jeff Holland - Edge
4. Wyatt Teller - OG

Veach mentioned a mindset being established on defense, so tough assholes like Carlton Davis and Nathan Shepherd make a lot of sense.

DaneMcCloud
03-24-2018, 11:16 AM
Arden Key*, 3-4 OLB, LSU


Key has off the field issues so I seriously doubt he's the selection

Tribal Warfare
03-24-2018, 11:37 AM
Veach mentioned a mindset being established on defense, so tough assholes like Carlton Davis and Nathan Shepherd make a lot of sense.

Though we have to be wary about this too, because this falls into Carl's and Pioli's profile/right 53 mantra

staylor26
03-24-2018, 11:49 AM
2. Carlton Davis - Corner
3. Nathan Shepherd - DL
3. Armani Watts - S
4. Jeff Holland - Edge
4. Wyatt Teller - OG

I’d be 100% down for this

RunKC
03-24-2018, 12:05 PM
2. Carlton Davis - Corner
3. Nathan Shepherd - DL
3. Armani Watts - S
4. Jeff Holland - Edge
4. Wyatt Teller - OG

Give me Dane Cruikshank all day at safety. He fits perfectly here.

Chargem
03-24-2018, 04:51 PM
Is Jeff Holland really predicted to go in the 4th? Thought he was expected to go much higher.

Like all of those picks including the order though.

RunKC
03-25-2018, 10:22 PM
2. Jessie Bates S Wake Forest
3. Frank Ragnow G/C Arkansas
3. Foley Fatukasi DE Connecticut
4. Ogbo Okoronkwo OLB OU
4. Quinton Meeks CB Stanford

That’s my first attempt at a mock. Would be amazeballs

O.city
03-26-2018, 02:25 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marshall safety C.J. Reavis has a top 30 visit with the Chiefs on April 4th, according to a league source</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/978366473184927744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Tribal Warfare
03-26-2018, 03:30 PM
3. Foley Fatukasi DE Connecticut


That’s my first attempt at a mock. Would be amazeballs

http://dailycampus.com/stories/2018/3/22/uconn-football-players-impress-nfl-scouts-at-pro-day

kccrow
03-26-2018, 05:30 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marshall safety C.J. Reavis has a top 30 visit with the Chiefs on April 4th, according to a league source</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/978366473184927744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Really good field awareness, looks like he studies tape. Really good tackler. I'm not sure he's any kind of difference maker and really doesn't make plays on the ball, so I see him as a backup/special teamer that is more likely to be 7/UDFA than anything.

KChiefs1
03-26-2018, 06:48 PM
https://twitter.com/terezpaylor/status/978385644723548167?s=21

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180327/44bc4ec09f57ac46950c756d41281458.jpg


Five positions the Chiefs could upgrade before the 2018 season

BY TEREZ A. PAYLOR| TPAYLOR@KCSTAR.COM

ORLANDO, FLA.

Chiefs general manager Brett Veach has been a busy man this offseason.

Over the course of the last two months, Veach has jettisoned a Pro Bowl quarterback (Alex Smith) and two team icons (linebackers Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson), all in the name of getting younger and clearing salary-cap space. He has also jettisoned a young and wildly talented but mercurial cornerback, Marcus Peters, in an attempt to head off the on- and off-field distractions that might've resulted from a probable holdout over a new contract.

But despite being strapped for cash, Veach has also managed to make some improvements, too. He signed the No. 1 player on the Chiefs' free-agent board, receiver Sammy Watkins, to a three-year deal that when combined with speedster Tyreek Hill arms new quarterback Patrick Mahomes with two elite deep threats. And Veach also signed a speedy three-down linebacker with range in Anthony Hitchens to replace Johnson, one of the team's most revered players.

In return for Smith, the Pro Bowl quarterback Andy Reid helped rejuvenate after a roller-coaster career in San Francisco, Veach got a third-round pick and an ascending young cornerback in Kendall Fuller, who plays with passion and aggression and will immediately compete with Steven Nelson to be the team's No. 1 cover corner.

Best of all, the three players the Chiefs brought in are 25 or younger, which is very much in line with the younger, faster core that Veach hopes to give Reid in the longtime coach's seemingly endless quest for that first Super Bowl title.

But the truth is, with free agency having effectively wound down and the Chiefs believed to be operating with less cap space than has been publicly suggested, whatever improvements Veach still hopes to make will likely come via cheap, low-risk options or the NFL Draft.

Here are five positions the Chiefs could still look to fortify this offseason by the time organized team activities begin in mid-March:

1. Defensive line

The Chiefs re-signed Jarvis Jenkins and tendered Rakeem Nunez-Roches. They also signed Grandview High product Xavier Williams to bolster the run defense as their best interior run stopper, Bennie Logan, left via free agency. Throw those guys in the mix with established starters Chris Jones and Allen Bailey, and you can live with this group. But Veach is trying to build a dominant unit up front, and with Bailey, Williams and Nunez-Roches all slated to hit free agency after this season, it would be a major surprise if the Chiefs didn't invest a premium draft pick in a potential three-down talent.


2. Defensive back

The trade of Peters leaves a void that Fuller will likely fill, while the super-competitive Nelson will be motivated to have a career season in a contract year. Add those two to David Amerson, who shined in 2015 with Oakland but will be looking to cash in after playing this season on a one-year prove-it deal, and the Chiefs' top three corners will be competitive. The depth behind them is lacking, however, and someone will need to step up and surprise. Bet on help coming via a top-100 pick, especially in a league that covets cover corners like never before. The best-case scenario? A top-40 talent falls to the Chiefs' first pick, No. 54 overall. But if a good corner (or defensive lineman) falls to the end of the first round, it wouldn't be a surprise to see Veach — who trusts his scouting eye and is unfailingly aggressive — move up and snatch one. At safety, a rangy cover man with ball skills could tempt the Chiefs: they interviewed several at the annual scouting combine.


3. Edge rusher

The Chiefs have the makings of a really good edge rush, provided everything breaks right. Justin Houston is expensive throughout his career, but he remains elite. And the smart money is on Dee Ford turning his insane first-step quickness into a double-digit sack season and contract-year payday in 2018. Meanwhile, the coaching staff loves 2017 second-round pick Tanoh Kpassagnon's ridiculous combination of size (6 foot 7) and athleticism, which is matched by a happy-go-lucky spirit and desire to get better. But if Houston and Ford get nicked up and Kpassagnon still hasn't mastered the mental side of the game (or the intricacies of holding the edge), the Chiefs could be in trouble here. If they plan to move on from Ford or Houston after this season, it would make sense to invest a top-100 pick in a talented edge rusher to add competition to the group.

4. Offensive line

Don't sleep on the loss of Zach Fulton; the free-agent center's departure to Houston robs this offensive line of a steady, reliable and interchangeable piece along the offensive line. The real shame of it is that we never got to see Fulton, who played best at center, teamed up with Mitch Morse at guard (where Morse could get out and run a little more than he could at center). The Chiefs might be comfortable rolling with Morse at center, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif and either Bryan Witzmann or Parker Ehinger at left guard, but no matter what, they need to add more talent to the interior to guard against injuries and/or the chance that Morse leaves via free agency after this season. Meanwhile, the Chiefs appear to be set at tackle with Eric Fisher or Mitch Schwartz, but with Cameron Erving scheduled to be a free agent after the season — and with him also doing his best work as a blocking tight end, of sorts — the Chiefs would be wise to find a long, tough, developmental prospect on the outside, too: someone who could potentially blossom after two offseasons spent with head strength coach Barry Rubin.


5. Tight end

Travis Kelce is elite, and what's more, he really seemed to mature during the course of the 2017 season. You never know when he might unleash during a game, but as a player, there's no doubt he has lots of good football left. That said, he turns 29 this year and coach Andy Reid loves using tight ends, so it wouldn't hurt to find a developmental tight end to add to this unit, especially one who can block well — an ongoing net deficiency for years now. Adding depth here could also be smart because No. 2 tight end Demetrius Harris, a gifted former basketball player who has gotten better every season, hits free agency after this season.

O.city
03-28-2018, 09:24 AM
Harrison Phillips interest anyone?

O.city
03-28-2018, 09:45 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Harrison Phillips vs Quenton Nelson <a href="https://t.co/fN4FzjnR9P">pic.twitter.com/fN4FzjnR9P</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/979020987441274881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Heres phillips against Nelson.

I'm a fan.

staylor26
03-28-2018, 09:50 AM
He’s on my short list of guys I think we have a realistic shot at getting at 54

O.city
03-28-2018, 09:51 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Strip-sack on Josh Rosen by Harrison Phillips. <a href="https://t.co/n9Td8t5FdP">pic.twitter.com/n9Td8t5FdP</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/979022803209981954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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O.city
03-28-2018, 09:51 AM
He’s on my short list of guys I think we have a realistic shot at getting at 54

Mosher is talking about him on Twitter a lot now.

He looks like a really nice player.

I like.

O.city
03-28-2018, 09:52 AM
I wonder if he can profile to much as a pass rusher though is my only concern.

But fuck I like Stanford defensive players. They're smart and tend to have a nasty side.

If/when Andy retires David Shaw is on a very short list of head coaches I'd bring in.

RunKC
03-28-2018, 10:06 AM
Found out about this kid in January

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=313056&highlight=Harrison+Phillips

Love him and would be thrilled to get him at 54. Kinda gave up on him bc I thought he was out of reach.

O.city
03-28-2018, 10:08 AM
I thought I remembered a thread about him somewhere.

O.city
03-28-2018, 10:10 AM
I'm seeing a lot of 2nd round on him. I think he's better than Taven Bryant.

MotherfuckerJones
03-28-2018, 10:22 AM
I’d shit if Phillips lasts til pick 54

MotherfuckerJones
03-28-2018, 10:23 AM
I'm seeing a lot of 2nd round on him. I think he's better than Taven Bryant.

Sounds like they say he’s got a low ceiling but high floor (I heard that on some podcast but can’t remember which one). He’ll be a really good player for a long time.

RunKC
03-28-2018, 10:48 AM
Phillips played NT part time at Stanford and held his own. Also held his own vs Quinton Nelson.
42 bench reps and a 7.28 3 cone

This dude would immediately help in run defense and the pass rush in the nickel.

O.city
03-28-2018, 10:50 AM
Phillips played NT part time at Stanford and held his own. Also held his own vs Quinton Nelson.
42 bench reps and a 7.28 3 cone

This dude would immediately help in run defense and the pass rush in the nickel.

I worry about his upside rushing the passer.

ANy concerns there on that?

MotherfuckerJones
03-28-2018, 11:14 AM
I want to watch some PJ Hall tonight. Monster combine numbers and college stats

staylor26
03-28-2018, 11:48 AM
I'm seeing a lot of 2nd round on him. I think he's better than Taven Bryant.

I wouldn’t go that far. Bryan has much more upside as a pass rusher IMO.

O.city
03-28-2018, 11:49 AM
I wouldn’t go that far. Bryan has much more upside as a pass rusher IMO.

I dunno. Probably as a nickel rusher.

But if Phillips can rush he can play 3 downs.

RunKC
03-28-2018, 11:59 AM
I wouldn’t go that far. Bryan has much more upside as a pass rusher IMO.

Yeah Phillips is more muscle while Bryan is more speed/agility. If we are rushing a lot due to the offense, Bryan might be the better option.

I know you’re with me on increasing the inside pressure next to Jones. Hoping we can do that and get an OLB in the 4th rd to learn this year and potentially take over for Ford.

Kemoko Turray, Kylie Fitts, Jeff Holland. Some good values later on to develop.

Chargem
03-28-2018, 02:23 PM
The bits and pieces I have read on Bryan is that he's not a guy who you would expect to contribute in his first year, as he is still very raw, but some say he could be the second coming of JJ Watt.

Phillips would be a quality add at 54 but it's not clear if he can be a 3 down player and if not, 54 is too high a pick to use on him I think.

If RJ McIntosh is there in the 4th round (or second pick in 3rd at highest), I think he would be my guy. Probably expected to sit for a year again but that doesn't matter so much if you get him in the 4th and he's more likely to be able to pass rush.

staylor26
03-28-2018, 02:26 PM
Yeah Phillips is more muscle while Bryan is more speed/agility. If we are rushing a lot due to the offense, Bryan might be the better option.

I know you’re with me on increasing the inside pressure next to Jones. Hoping we can do that and get an OLB in the 4th rd to learn this year and potentially take over for Ford.

Kemoko Turray, Kylie Fitts, Jeff Holland. Some good values later on to develop.

I agree. I’m really starting to like the idea of OLB in the 4th. I think that’s where the value will be. I’d be happy with any of those guys there.

Chargem
03-28-2018, 02:45 PM
I agree. I’m really starting to like the idea of OLB in the 4th. I think that’s where the value will be. I’d be happy with any of those guys there.

Ogbo Okoronkwo also possibly available in the 4th.

staylor26
03-28-2018, 02:47 PM
Ogbo Okoronkwo also possibly available in the 4th.

Yea Ogbo, Nwosu, Ejiofor, Thomas, and Armstrong are all 3rd round guys that I wouldn’t be shocked to see slip into the 4th. A couple will for sure.

Chargem
03-28-2018, 03:03 PM
2) Jaire Alexander (I honestly think he falls and the Chiefs trade up a few spots to get him in the 40's)
3) Armani Watts
3) RJ McIntosh
4) Ogbo Okoronkwo
4) Troy Fumigalli
6) Maybe a QB if one is still around that the Chiefs like as a third string guy

Assuming both 7's get traded

kccrow
03-28-2018, 06:24 PM
Yea Ogbo, Nwosu, Ejiofor, Thomas, and Armstrong are all 3rd round guys that I wouldn’t be shocked to see slip into the 4th. A couple will for sure.

I really like Ejiofor.

staylor26
03-28-2018, 06:25 PM
I really like Ejiofor.

Same here. Probably my favorite out of that group.

Tribal Warfare
03-28-2018, 07:27 PM
I want to watch some PJ Hall tonight. Monster combine numbers and college stats

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/


KC values versatility out of their DL/OL which is why Dorsey was a Metric/SPARQ fanatic.

If you believe Veach factors in measurables with game tape
then Foley Fatukasi is a target prospect.

BossChief
03-28-2018, 07:37 PM
I’m going to go on record and say KC moves up for either Josh Jackson or Isiah Oliver.

kccrow
03-28-2018, 08:03 PM
I’m going to go on record and say KC moves up for either Josh Jackson or Isiah Oliver.

I'd add Carlton Davis to that list. I don't know that KC will try to get up into 1, but if they get around 40, where KC could legitimately use just a 3rd to get up there, I think they'll pull the trigger.

MotherfuckerJones
03-28-2018, 08:21 PM
https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/


KC values versatility out of their DL/OL which is why Dorsey was a Metric/SPARQ fanatic.

If you believe Veach factors in measurables with game tape
then Foley Fatukasi is a target prospect.
Thanks

I’m going to go on record and say KC moves up for either Josh Jackson or Isiah Oliver.

I really think a trade up into the 40s is a legit possibility. Maybe even end of round 1, which would be good to get an extra year of control for a player. But KC needs as many picks early as possible. Depending on the board, I wouldnt mind moving down to pick up more picks in rounds 3 and 4.

RunKC
03-28-2018, 08:22 PM
I'd add Carlton Davis to that list. I don't know that KC will try to get up into 1, but if they get around 40, where KC could legitimately use just a 3rd to get up there, I think they'll pull the trigger.

I do think that corner appears to be the strongest position in early rd 2, and if we are trading up, it would have to be for a premier position.

I bet Chris Ballard would trade 37 to us for a 2019 2nd and 2018 6th. He does have three 2nd rd picks and would surely jump at the opportunity to move down for a 2nd rd pick next year to help build his team further.

Chief Northman
03-28-2018, 08:33 PM
I'd add Carlton Davis to that list. I don't know that KC will try to get up into 1, but if they get around 40, where KC could legitimately use just a 3rd to get up there, I think they'll pull the trigger.

I agree - Davis is the best scheme fit if indeed Sutton wants to return to a heavy press man deployment. Kid is physical as heck, strong and competes.

Spitballing:
Eagles at 32 and the Seahawks at 18 could make prime trade targets because both lack trade capital with only 6 picks each.

With the Seahawks in a rebuild, I would offer them pick number 54, the 2019 second rounder from the Rams, our original 2018 third rounder and maybe throw in the 6th rounder to boot.

At 18 you can get a premier Corner or DL. Taven Bryan, DaRon Payne, Jaire Alexander or Mike Hughes are arguably all on the board at that point. You get a 5 year option on a guy.
Safety, pass rush and OG can still be addressed in the 3rd/4th.
Seattle nets three extra picks and moves the rebuild along...

BossChief
03-28-2018, 10:04 PM
I do think that corner appears to be the strongest position in early rd 2, and if we are trading up, it would have to be for a premier position.

I bet Chris Ballard would trade 37 to us for a 2019 2nd and 2018 6th. He does have three 2nd rd picks and would surely jump at the opportunity to move down for a 2nd rd pick next year to help build his team further.

No way. It would take next years second and this years third (probably more) to get up thst high.

BossChief
03-28-2018, 10:07 PM
I agree - Davis is the best scheme fit if indeed Sutton wants to return to a heavy press man deployment. Kid is physical as heck, strong and competes.

Spitballing:
Eagles at 32 and the Seahawks at 18 could make prime trade targets because both lack trade capital with only 6 picks each.

With the Seahawks in a rebuild, I would offer them pick number 54, the 2019 second rounder from the Rams, our original 2018 third rounder and maybe throw in the 6th rounder to boot.

At 18 you can get a premier Corner or DL. Taven Bryan, DaRon Payne, Jaire Alexander or Mike Hughes are arguably all on the board at that point. You get a 5 year option on a guy.
Safety, pass rush and OG can still be addressed in the 3rd/4th.
Seattle nets three extra picks and moves the rebuild along...

No need to move up that high.

I wouldn’t give up that much unless it was for a sure thing perennial pro bowl type guy at a premium position and if they make that kind of gamble they better be right.

Chief Northman
03-28-2018, 11:38 PM
The bits and pieces I have read on Bryan is that he's not a guy who you would expect to contribute in his first year, as he is still very raw, but some say he could be the second coming of JJ Watt.

Phillips would be a quality add at 54 but it's not clear if he can be a 3 down player and if not, 54 is too high a pick to use on him I think.

If RJ McIntosh is there in the 4th round (or second pick in 3rd at highest), I think he would be my guy. Probably expected to sit for a year again but that doesn't matter so much if you get him in the 4th and he's more likely to be able to pass rush.

I’m warming up to McIntosh. He has similar quickness and lateral agility to Chris Jones. He will only get better.
I do not like Phillips at 54. No pass rush upside whatsoever- he simply bull rushes. Solid anchor in the run game, but you don’t draft “Mike DeVito” in round two.

2. C. Davis or Q. Meeks (Corner)
3. Ian Thomas (TE)
3. Jerome Baker (LB/S)
4. RJ McIntosh (DL)
4. Duke Eliojor - stock falling due to combine injury, pedestrian testing (Edge)
6. Dane Cruikshank (S)

Veach signs Kendall Wright - REC
Veach signs Eric Reid - S

Chargem
03-29-2018, 12:33 AM
At 18 you can get a premier Corner or DL. Taven Bryan, DaRon Payne, Jaire Alexander or Mike Hughes are arguably all on the board at that point. You get a 5 year option on a guy.
Safety, pass rush and OG can still be addressed in the 3rd/4th.
Seattle nets three extra picks and moves the rebuild along...

To get up to 18 and give that number of picks up I would want Vita Vea, Derwin James or Minkah Fitzpatrick to have fallen I think

Chargem
03-29-2018, 12:56 AM
I’m warming up to McIntosh. He has similar quickness and lateral agility to Chris Jones. He will only get better.
I do not like Phillips at 54. No pass rush upside whatsoever- he simply bull rushes. Solid anchor in the run game, but you don’t draft “Mike DeVito” in round two.

2. C. Davis or Q. Meeks (Corner)
3. Ian Thomas (TE)
3. Jerome Baker (LB/S)
4. RJ McIntosh (DL)
4. Duke Eliojor - stock falling due to combine injury, pedestrian testing (Edge)
6. Dane Cruikshank (S)

Veach signs Kendall Wright - REC
Veach signs Eric Reid - S

I don't like Meeks as your alternative no.2 pick, I think he goes a lot lower? I like the rest though, drafting TE in the third is good if we sign a FA receiver and safety like you suggest.

This is where the lack of depth and lack of a first round pick gets frustrating, as there's a lot of spots like WR/TE/G/C where I would like a guy drafted but considering the defense some of it just has to wait till next year if we can't pick up FAs

Quesadilla Joe
03-29-2018, 04:47 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No Secret <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> love Mike Hughes. Targeting Corner Rd2. Don’t be surprised if trade up from 54. Mike Hughes is their crush. Few other names... Dorance Armstrong, Malik Jefferson, Frank Ragnow, Braden Smith, Josh Sweat. Chiefs shown ain’t afraid being bold.</p>&mdash; Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/979487333979508737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise
03-29-2018, 04:54 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/x9oJybcJ9Z0" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

staylor26
03-29-2018, 04:55 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No Secret <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> love Mike Hughes. Targeting Corner Rd2. Don’t be surprised if trade up from 54. Mike Hughes is their crush. Few other names... Dorance Armstrong, Malik Jefferson, Frank Ragnow, Braden Smith, Josh Sweat. Chiefs shown ain’t afraid being bold.</p>&mdash; Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/979487333979508737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Who the fuck is this guy?

Tribal Warfare
03-29-2018, 05:21 PM
Who the fuck is this guy?

Mike Hughes CB Central Florida SPARQ of 123.6 which is in the 73.3%

Quesadilla Joe
03-29-2018, 05:25 PM
Who the **** is this guy?

Not sure. I just know he tweets a lot of draft stuff, seems to attend events like the Senior Bowl/Combine, and is followed by about a dozen of the draft guys I follow like McShay and Neil Stratton.

staylor26
03-29-2018, 05:29 PM
Mike Hughes CB Central Florida SPARQ of 123.6 which is in the 73.3%

Not Mike Hughes lol

I’m talking about the source

RunKC
03-29-2018, 06:04 PM
Mentioned it before. If we choose to draft an OL early I think it’s Frank Ragnow. Good size, good athleticism. Can play G and C. Dude gave up zero sacks in 41 games in the SEC.

I think Andy loves the guy

Tribal Warfare
03-29-2018, 07:03 PM
Mike Hughes CB Central Florida SPARQ of 123.6 which is in the 73.3%

https://twitter.com/funderpunt/status/979491239476252673?s=19

Chiefshrink
03-29-2018, 07:14 PM
Depends on how the board looks after the first day whether we trade up from 54 or stay put for that particular defensive player.

Chief Northman
03-29-2018, 09:31 PM
My goodness Hughes would be fantastic, but I doubt we even get a sniff. Some mocks have him going as high as 18 to Seattle.
He would cost too much draft capital in my opinion. If he is still around 7-8 picks into the 2nd round however, you almost have to make a move to get him. His closing speed and ability to mirror is elite. He can factor seriously into the punt return game too.

kccrow
03-30-2018, 12:16 AM
I love Hughes. If he's there in 2, its because of the assault as a freshman when he knocked a guy out. I don't see him slipping, really. Maybe teams won't like his size and top-end speed enough, but he's so good on the field that it's hard to think someone won't take him early. He's going to get some serious love from teams still employing a cover 2 scheme.

Like I mentioned in Direkshun's mock, I don't mind sweat if its closer to round 4. A late 3rd is fine. I would not like a 2nd round pick spent on the guy. He needs alot of work and someone has to light a fire under his ass off the snap or he's useless.

I like Ragnow a bunch. I'd support a trade up into the top of the 3rd. I don't know if you spend a 2nd on him, but maybe you do. Same with Braden Smith. If you're that convinced that either of those guys solves your problem at LG, then I support going up and getting them. I'd have more confidence in Smith being there at 78 than Ragnow.

I like Malik Jefferson a bunch, but is he a need now with Hitchens and Ragland penciled in as the starters? I don't think so. He could be a sub-package coverage linebacker early on, but are you willing to spend a 2nd round pick on him to get that?

Dorance Armstrong just doens't bring enough to the table. He's going late I'd think. 6th/7th round pick that you hope develops.

Chargem
03-30-2018, 04:00 AM
I love Hughes. If he's there in 2, its because of the assault as a freshman when he knocked a guy out. I don't see him slipping, really. Maybe teams won't like his size and top-end speed enough, but he's so good on the field that it's hard to think someone won't take him early. He's going to get some serious love from teams still employing a cover 2 scheme.

Like I mentioned in Direkshun's mock, I don't mind sweat if its closer to round 4. A late 3rd is fine. I would not like a 2nd round pick spent on the guy. He needs alot of work and someone has to light a fire under his ass off the snap or he's useless.

Dorance Armstrong just doens't bring enough to the table. He's going late I'd think. 6th/7th round pick that you hope develops.

Hughes only has 1 year as a starter, maybe teams will worry he needs another year before being NFL ready and that might push him out of the 1st? Probably wishful thinking.

I don't really like Sweat at all. Dorance is in the big group of potential pass rusher guys that I want the Chiefs to take in the 4th round or later

Chief Northman
03-30-2018, 09:24 AM
I love Hughes. If he's there in 2, its because of the assault as a freshman when he knocked a guy out. I don't see him slipping, really. Maybe teams won't like his size and top-end speed enough, but he's so good on the field that it's hard to think someone won't take him early. He's going to get some serious love from teams still employing a cover 2 scheme.

Like I mentioned in Direkshun's mock, I don't mind sweat if its closer to round 4. A late 3rd is fine. I would not like a 2nd round pick spent on the guy. He needs alot of work and someone has to light a fire under his ass off the snap or he's useless.

I like Ragnow a bunch. I'd support a trade up into the top of the 3rd. I don't know if you spend a 2nd on him, but maybe you do. Same with Braden Smith. If you're that convinced that either of those guys solves your problem at LG, then I support going up and getting them. I'd have more confidence in Smith being there at 78 than Ragnow.

I like Malik Jefferson a bunch, but is he a need now with Hitchens and Ragland penciled in as the starters? I don't think so. He could be a sub-package coverage linebacker early on, but are you willing to spend a 2nd round pick on him to get that?

Dorance Armstrong just doens't bring enough to the table. He's going late I'd think. 6th/7th round pick that you hope develops.

My thought process aligns very closely with yours. Corner looks like a position the Chiefs are targeting early with the potential to trade up as there is a huge drop off after the top 5 or 6 guys: Fitzpatrick, Ward, J. Jackson, Oliver, Hughes, Alexander, Davis. All these guys are likely gone by pick #45 or so. After that you are settling for guys like Meeks, McFadden, Stewart, etc. which are likely not day one starters.

I love Ragnow as a Center, less at guard. He should be picked ahead of Smith though. Smith does not wow me and should at best be a mid 3rd round pick. True 5 techs in this class are few and far between, so I think the Chiefs convert a 3 tech like Chris Jones to become a disruptor along the D-line. McIntosh, Greene, Shepherd to name a few.

Not a fan of Sweat, and I think you could still find production from other guys into round 4 - Ejiofor, Holland, etc.

Safeties who can role play in Sutton’s scheme can be found anywhere, and TE is rather deep too. I expect a heavy defensive draft however.

The one offensive player I would applaud being selected at 54 however is Anthony Miller. He is destined to be great.

Chargem
03-31-2018, 09:17 AM
The more I listen to PFF podcasts and analysis, the more I think that if Maurice Hurst falls into the 2nd round due to the heart issue, the Chiefs should be trading up to get him.

PFF grades him as a pass rush beast and all the previous players they have graded at the same level pass rush wise have also been great at the NFL level immediately.

O.city
04-08-2018, 08:13 AM
So atwhat point does Nathan Sheppard get picked round wise?

If the chiefs were to take his m at 54, would you be upset?

If they could get a corner at 54 and him with one of the thirds, it’s be ideal

Chargem
04-08-2018, 10:42 AM
So atwhat point does Nathan Sheppard get picked round wise?

If the chiefs were to take his m at 54, would you be upset?

If they could get a corner at 54 and him with one of the thirds, it’s be ideal

I think Shepherd in the third is even a bit of a reach, so I would be upset if he went at 54. The draft tracker on NFL.com has him in the 4-5 round range.

Ideally I want a defensive player who is going to be playing a significant amount of snaps this year at 54, corner would be a good fit, but depends heavily on what the board looks like. I'd like Shepherd in the 4th if he's still there.

O.city
04-08-2018, 12:21 PM
I think Shepard will get knocked coming from a small school but he’s a fucking stud

RunKC
04-09-2018, 08:58 AM
Watched some Mike Hughes last night.

He may not be tall but the dude has a Marcus Peters esque feel for the game. He understands routes, looks at the QB’s eyes while the play develops and is very good at jumping routes to make INT’s.

Easy to see why we’d like him. He does a lot of things you want for a CB in this system.

O.city
04-09-2018, 09:02 AM
Wonder how high they'll have to trade for Hughes? I dunno that he lasts to 54

BossChief
04-09-2018, 11:21 AM
Step 1: Identify the group of corners you think would be impact players in your system.
Step 2: Identify the teams that are willing to move down in the draft and negotiate scenarios with them for fair compensation.
Step 3: As the draft plays out and that group gets down to 2-3 guys, start making calls to move up.

Priest31kc
04-09-2018, 04:12 PM
Watched some Mike Hughes last night.

He may not be tall but the dude has a Marcus Peters esque feel for the game. He understands routes, looks at the QB’s eyes while the play develops and is very good at jumping routes to make INT’s.

Easy to see why we’d like him. He does a lot of things you want for a CB in this system.

If we trade up I think it'll be for a CB and I think it'll be for this guy. I love Hughes and you're right, he seems to have the instincts like Peters has and a nose for the ball.

Hughes-Fuller-Nelson-Amerson

That's a much better group overall than we had last year.

Quesadilla Joe
04-16-2018, 12:55 PM
From Daniel Jeremiah:

7) Chiefs are a candidate to trade up for a CB: The Chiefs don't own a first-round pick in this year's draft (they dealt that pick away in the Patrick Mahomes trade last year), but I won't be surprised if they move up from where they're picking in the second round (No. 54 overall). They have a glaring need at cornerback and the top cover men will be long gone by the time they are on the clock if they stay put at No. 54. They need to get into the range of picks 35-40 in order to secure a Day One starter at that position, and many around the league expect them to make that happen.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926622/article/2018-nfl-draft-josh-rosen-could-slide-colts-looking-to-trade?campaign=tw-cf-sf187078266-sf187078266&sf187078266=1

O.city
04-16-2018, 01:45 PM
I'd grudgingly be ok with that.

Although if they could get in the first round I'd be happier as you'd get the 5th round option.

KChiefs1
04-16-2018, 10:35 PM
Here’s the Chiefs picks in my simulated NFL draft. I only did a 4 rounder. Thoughts?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180417/bccf551d905f2c18461d44b9357d25f2.jpg

Chargem
04-17-2018, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about someone who's first name is Poona.

KChiefs1
04-22-2018, 07:46 PM
From Daniel Jeremiah:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926622/article/2018-nfl-draft-josh-rosen-could-slide-colts-looking-to-trade?campaign=tw-cf-sf187078266-sf187078266&sf187078266=1



I’m hoping this guy makes it to 54.

https://youtu.be/_stSvqc4gMk
https://youtu.be/fN7U8BkwrK4

or maybe this guy.

https://youtu.be/jF1ldbz6PCk
https://youtu.be/KMQvXNCwA5M

RunKC
04-24-2018, 08:37 AM
Mentioned it before. If we choose to draft an OL early I think it’s Frank Ragnow. Good size, good athleticism. Can play G and C. Dude gave up zero sacks in 41 games in the SEC.

I think Andy loves the guy

Ragnow is now being mocked as a 1st rd pick. Damnit

Quesadilla Joe
04-26-2018, 12:58 PM
At the 20:00 mark Galko thinks the Chiefs will trade up for Taven Bryan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> Q&amp;A now! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Giants</a>, Lamar, Rosen, Minkah, trades and more.<a href="https://t.co/uH54GD9jGy">https://t.co/uH54GD9jGy</a></p>&mdash; Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptimumScouting/status/989558214973943808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26
04-26-2018, 01:06 PM
At the 20:00 mark Galko thinks the Chiefs will trade up for Taven Bryan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> Q&amp;A now! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Giants</a>, Lamar, Rosen, Minkah, trades and more.<a href="https://t.co/uH54GD9jGy">https://t.co/uH54GD9jGy</a></p>&mdash; Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptimumScouting/status/989558214973943808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes please

The Franchise
04-26-2018, 01:19 PM
Works for me.

RunKC
04-26-2018, 01:24 PM
Didn’t see Knowmo posted that. I just listened.

Taven Bryan is awesome

BossChief
04-26-2018, 02:08 PM
I’d be a big fan of that move.

Says moving up at the beginning of rd 2 for him.

I’d be happy with that sand maybe moving up again from our first third to draft a corner.

Chargem
04-26-2018, 02:24 PM
Taven Bryan is a pretty raw guy, I would like it if we got him but I doubt he contributes at all in 2018, which is not ideal

KChiefs1
04-26-2018, 05:09 PM
At the 20:00 mark Galko thinks the Chiefs will trade up for Taven Bryan

#NFLDraft Q&A now! #Browns, #Giants, Lamar, Rosen, Minkah, trades and more.https://t.co/uH54GD9jGy— Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting) April 26, 2018




The next JJ Watt.

https://youtu.be/GkRFCVz8mCY

https://youtu.be/k3USTrFmwwc

https://youtu.be/as_-XlOOgcY

https://youtu.be/hg__eL7qRws

Sfeihc
04-26-2018, 05:52 PM
Isaiah Oliver
Nate Shepherd
Lorenzo Carter

Any one of those three would be great. If Veach could swing two of those three he is a genius.

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Tribal Warfare
04-26-2018, 11:30 PM
Isaiah Oliver
Nate Shepherd
Lorenzo Carter

Any one of those three would be great. If Veach could swing two of those three he is a genius.

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If Veach is trading up it's for Josh Jackson or Isaiah Oliver

KChiefs1
04-27-2018, 05:04 AM
If Veach is trading up it's for Josh Jackson or Isaiah Oliver



Isaiah Oliver for me.

Quesadilla Joe
04-27-2018, 11:46 AM
Galko thinks the Chiefs could be targeting Lorenzo Carter in the second (6:40). Also says they really want to get a defensive lineman in this draft.

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MotherfuckerJones
04-27-2018, 12:42 PM
I’ll take Maurice Hurst or Landry

Quesadilla Joe
04-27-2018, 04:55 PM
6. Other teams are keeping an eye on Kansas City to come up the board—the Chiefs actually talked to the Eagles last night, I’m told, about acquiring the No. 32 pick. It’d be for a corner, which makes sense in the wake of the Marcus Peters trade, and given the players (like Iowa’s Josh Jackson and Colorado’s Isaiah Oliver) available.https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/27/nfl-draft-2018-news-updates-buzz-rounds-two-three

KChiefs1
04-28-2018, 11:17 AM
I’ll take Maurice Hurst or Landry



Hurst is still available.

EricBerryBoom
04-30-2018, 04:24 PM
Hurst is still available.

I still can't get over how much of a slide Hurst took. I get that he has health concerns, but the upside is so freaking high.