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carcosa
11-19-2017, 01:31 PM
We all know he's terrible at clock management. We all know he clams up in the playoffs. But what is he actually good at?

This team isn't disciplined. They draw a million flags a game and consistently make stupid decisions.

The playcalls are seemingly random, with no regard for situation or matchups.

When somebody gets hurt, nobody seems to be capable of stepping up.

And as evidenced by the first half today against one of the worst teams in the league, Reid doesn't seem to be good at bye weeks anymore either.

So again, I ask... what is Andy Reid ACTUALLY good at?????

Titty Meat
11-19-2017, 01:31 PM
Stupid fucking thread

Eleazar
11-19-2017, 01:33 PM
Beating bad teams and mediocre teams.



er.... usually

staylor26
11-19-2017, 01:34 PM
:facepalm:

carcosa
11-19-2017, 01:36 PM
Stupid ****ing thread

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!

kjwood75nro
11-19-2017, 01:40 PM
Consuming.

Reerun_KC
11-19-2017, 01:40 PM
I love Andy now. He’s what this team needs.

Eleazar
11-19-2017, 01:44 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gc_5tx7xRlg/hqdefault.jpg

BlackHelicopters
11-19-2017, 01:48 PM
Wrecking and destroying any buffet in his path.

cookster50
11-19-2017, 01:53 PM
Killing super bowl dreams of fans everywhere he goes?

Dante84
11-19-2017, 01:58 PM
Winning.

Stupid thread.

BlackHelicopters
11-19-2017, 02:04 PM
Tiger blood

jspchief
11-19-2017, 02:06 PM
He's good at being just above average. Playing the odds. Everything about this team is about never risking enough to put your job at risk. If he was a poker player, he'd be the guy that always fold unless he's got a monster hand, going deep into the tourney while his chip pile slowly dwindles to the ante.

For everything CP used to criticize Lamar and Carl Peterson over, Andy Reid and Bob Sutton are their dream coaches. You don't lose fans in droves by winning 10 games per year. Low risk, results slightly above the mean.

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carcosa
11-19-2017, 02:10 PM
Winning.

Stupid thread.

Winning what?

Reerun_KC
11-19-2017, 02:11 PM
He's good at being just above average. Playing the odds. Everything about this team is about never risking enough to put your job at risk. If he was a poker player, he'd be the guy that always fold unless he's got a monster hand, going deep into the tourney while his chip pile slowly dwindles to the ante.

For everything CP used to criticize Lamar and Carl Peterson over, Andy Reid and Bob Sutton are their dream coaches. You don't lose fans in droves by winning 10 games per year. Low risk, results slightly above the mean.

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Nailed it

Trivers
11-19-2017, 02:15 PM
We all know he's terrible at clock management. We all know he clams up in the playoffs. But what is he actually good at?

This team isn't disciplined. They draw a million flags a game and consistently make stupid decisions.

The playcalls are seemingly random, with no regard for situation or matchups.

When somebody gets hurt, nobody seems to be capable of stepping up.

And as evidenced by the first half today against one of the worst teams in the league, Reid doesn't seem to be good at bye weeks anymore either.

So again, I ask... what is Andy Reid ACTUALLY good at?????

Who are you?

Step way from the keyboard and go sober up.

carcosa
11-19-2017, 02:16 PM
It's insane to me that there are still long time Chiefs fans who are content with modest regular season success and think critically examining a coach's actual skills is "stupid" but whatever!!!!!!!!!! Andy Reid has a million wins in September so he's definitely GREAT!!!!!!!!!

carcosa
11-19-2017, 02:17 PM
Who are you?

Step way from the keyboard and go sober up.

What did I say that was wrong, bitch?????

Rausch
11-19-2017, 02:21 PM
He's good at being just above average. Playing the odds.

I agree with you for the most part but your argument is shit.

If you think Phat-Andy is about "playing the odds" or trying to be mediocre you're a fucking idiot.

Not wrong, YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.

RealSNR
11-19-2017, 02:23 PM
Regular season wins, basically.

He creates a great locker room and team environment.

That will usually get you a long HC career in the NFL

Rausch
11-19-2017, 02:24 PM
Regular season wins, basically.



Um, he's actually VERY good at post season wins as well...

jspchief
11-19-2017, 02:27 PM
He's a small notch above Marty Schottenheimer. But at least Marty's teams played with fire.

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Chiefnj2
11-19-2017, 02:30 PM
Pretty, pretty, pretty good at going an entire year without a WR touchdown.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-19-2017, 02:34 PM
He's actually a really creative playcaller. Certainly one of the few best in the NFL. However, you can only get by with smoke and mirrors for so long. Their success was predicated upon motion and misdirection. Once you stop staying in man, Smith has to make NFL throws, and he won't do it.

carcosa
11-19-2017, 02:37 PM
He's really good at having our pass catchers throw interceptions!!!! ULTIMATE FOOTBALL GENIOUS!!!!!!!

jspchief
11-19-2017, 02:41 PM
He's actually a really creative playcaller. Certainly one of the few best in the NFL. However, you can only get by with smoke and mirrors for so long. Their success was predicated upon motion and misdirection. Once you stop staying in man, Smith has to make NFL throws, and he won't do it.Reminds me a lot of Vermeil in that regard. Looks great when it works, looks like desperation when it doesn't. I'd prefer a team that out-executes on the basics than wins by occasionally outsmarting the opponent.

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Fish
11-19-2017, 02:46 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2234093/yumyumandy.gif

Eleazar
11-19-2017, 03:16 PM
He's good at being just above average. Playing the odds. Everything about this team is about never risking enough to put your job at risk. If he was a poker player, he'd be the guy that always fold unless he's got a monster hand, going deep into the tourney while his chip pile slowly dwindles to the ante.

For everything CP used to criticize Lamar and Carl Peterson over, Andy Reid and Bob Sutton are their dream coaches. You don't lose fans in droves by winning 10 games per year. Low risk, results slightly above the mean.

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Yep. Reid is an upmarket Marty. He is the True Fan's dream

Spott
11-19-2017, 03:24 PM
Parenting

Flying High D
11-19-2017, 03:26 PM
Fitness

stevieray
11-19-2017, 03:27 PM
He's good at being just above average. Playing the odds. Everything about this team is about never risking enough to put your job at risk. If he was a poker player, he'd be the guy that always fold unless he's got a monster hand, going deep into the tourney while his chip pile slowly dwindles to the ante.

For everything CP used to criticize Lamar and Carl Peterson over, Andy Reid and Bob Sutton are their dream coaches. You don't lose fans in droves by winning 10 games per year. Low risk, results slightly above the mean.

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He's a perfect fit for the Chiefs.

Just good enough to "break your heart"

Garbage in, garbage out.

carcosa
11-19-2017, 03:29 PM
Um, he's actually VERY good at post season wins as well...

What about in this decade

TEX
11-19-2017, 03:38 PM
Winning after the bye week, DAMMIT!!! Thats all I heard all week. :rolleyes:

keg in kc
11-19-2017, 03:39 PM
He does a spot-on Marty Schottenheimer impression.

JakeF
11-19-2017, 03:39 PM
We should have kept Dorsey and Pederson, fired Reid instead.

Eleazar
11-19-2017, 03:40 PM
Um, he's actually VERY good at post season wins as well...

He has a losing record in the postseason.

ping2000
11-19-2017, 03:49 PM
Cheeseburgers.

carcosa
11-19-2017, 03:50 PM
He has a losing record in the postseason.

Ok but what about regular season!!!!! He just wins games IDOT!!!!!!

mschiefs1984
11-19-2017, 03:51 PM
Stopping teams from winning football games

Eleazar
11-19-2017, 03:52 PM
Ok but what about regular season!!!!! He just wins games IDOT!!!!!!

If you care about regular season wins more than anything, Reid is your guy.

Sassy Squatch
11-19-2017, 04:00 PM
Top 10 in wins all time.

carcosa
11-19-2017, 04:01 PM
Top 10 in wins all time.

Who gives a shit

Sassy Squatch
11-19-2017, 04:03 PM
You. Don't ask questions if you don't want the answers. Dipshit.

carcosa
11-19-2017, 04:08 PM
You. Don't ask questions if you don't want the answers. Dipshit.

You didn't answer anything, dumbass. What is Andy Reid good at in 2017? Winning a bunch of games 15 years ago doesn't mean anything.

Sassy Squatch
11-19-2017, 04:10 PM
You didn't answer anything, dumbass. What is Andy Reid good at in 2017? Winning a bunch of games 15 years ago doesn't mean anything.
We haven't had a losing season since he's been here. Put down the hard liquor and breathe.

Dayze
11-19-2017, 04:10 PM
He's good at being just above average. Playing the odds. Everything about this team is about never risking enough to put your job at risk. If he was a poker player, he'd be the guy that always fold unless he's got a monster hand, going deep into the tourney while his chip pile slowly dwindles to the ante.

For everything CP used to criticize Lamar and Carl Peterson over, Andy Reid and Bob Sutton are their dream coaches. You don't lose fans in droves by winning 10 games per year. Low risk, results slightly above the mean.

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Boom

carcosa
11-26-2017, 12:41 PM
He's great at getting the team up to play!!!! They are READY TO GO!!!!!!!

GloucesterChief
11-26-2017, 12:44 PM
Boom

Except we aren't winning ten games this year. Be lucky to finish 8-8.

Eleazar
11-26-2017, 12:50 PM
Great at losing challenges and blowing time outs

carcosa
11-26-2017, 12:53 PM
Great at losing challenges and blowing time outs

HE IS THE ULTIMATE COACHING GENIOUS!!!!!

Ragged Robin
11-26-2017, 01:33 PM
He's good at going on a regular season tear and then limp dicking the rest of the way

Iowanian
11-26-2017, 01:37 PM
I'll bet he could crush a half dozen box of glazed doughnuts

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-26-2017, 02:57 PM
For the eleventy billionth time:

He's one of the best "buy-in" coaches in the league. Witness the transformation of his first season in KC. Not a whole lot changed on the roster, but that 2-14 team was suddenly on it's way to the playoffs.

Positives:
Steady coach, rarely sports a losing season.
Great offensive mind, allegedly possesses one of the most complex and thick offensive playbooks in the business.
General positive attitude coaching style, prefers to win hearts and minds rather than motivate through fear or intimidation.

Negatives:
Slow to make change when personnel is clearly in need of some bench time or discipline.
Orchestration of offensive drives; this one pretty much speaks for itself. :)
Egoli; oh yes, it's there, and in spades to the close observer. Reid can not seem to separate himself from what's good for Reid vs what's good for the team.
Good ol'boy club member; Reid is certainly not the only member of this shitty fraternity, but he's one of its most ardent adherents. Do not expect to see fresh, young, and innovative prospects show up in the Reid Coaching Clubhouse, at least not in the upper tiers.

LiveSteam
11-26-2017, 02:58 PM
Being a below average team is a staple of Reid

Eleazar
11-26-2017, 03:05 PM
He's good at maintaining employment

Chiefs4TheWin
11-26-2017, 03:05 PM
Managing "Shitty Attitude" players and half time adjustments. That's about it.

carcosa
11-26-2017, 03:36 PM
He's good at maintaining employment

That seems to be his primary strength. Stick around long enough to get into the top 10 for wins.

bevischief
11-26-2017, 03:38 PM
Killing a bucket of chicken.

kcpasco
11-26-2017, 03:38 PM
Being stubborn

carcosa
12-03-2017, 03:15 PM
This is such a well-disciplined team. Gotta give Reid credit for that.

LaDexter
12-03-2017, 03:53 PM
I'll bet he could crush a half dozen box of glazed doughnuts



Spot on.




The man can EAT.

Red Dawg
12-03-2017, 03:58 PM
The secondary is a lost cause. They are lost every snap. That Mcowen for God's sake.

Jerm
12-03-2017, 03:59 PM
He’s pretty good at standing on the sidelines with a clueless moronic look on his face when his team does something stupid....

chiefzilla1501
12-03-2017, 04:00 PM
Andy Reid is still a good offensive coach. He has his faults. But I give him that. This entire offense is built around gimmicks to hide our qb. Even our deep balls seem designed around taking advantage of defenses playing up on him. I'm still convinced mahomes is a lot more the style Reid has been successful with and it will show.

Our game management is a different story. And who knows how we fix this defense.

mlyonsd
12-03-2017, 04:02 PM
The best thing I can say about andy is he allowed nagy to call the offense.

And the results to me show andy is wasting our time.

thegame214
12-11-2017, 04:40 PM
Watch this if you have 5 min.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For Andy Reid, it&#39;s all in the details.<br><br>His former assistants: Doug Pederson, Todd Bowles, Sean McDermott, John Harbaugh, and <a href="https://twitter.com/RiverboatRonHC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RiverboatRonHC</a> can all attest.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLFilmsPresents?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLFilmsPresents</a> w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/katienolan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KatieNolan</a><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/mofIQrEsaO">pic.twitter.com/mofIQrEsaO</a></p>&mdash; NFL Films (@NFLFilms) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLFilms/status/940289223613018112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Buckweath
12-11-2017, 04:50 PM
I am not his biggest fan but he is pretty much unanimously rated as a top 10, max top 15 HC. Some think he is one of the very best.

Look elsewhere to criticize.

thegame214
12-11-2017, 04:52 PM
I am not his biggest fan but he is pretty much unanimously rated as a top 10, max top 15 HC. Some think he is one of the very best.

Look elsewhere to criticize.

Agreeed we could do wayyyyy worse

PAChiefsGuy
12-11-2017, 05:48 PM
He's a great HC.. We are lucky to have him. Period.

Hog's Gone Fishin
12-11-2017, 05:56 PM
I've heard rumor he can hold 5 McRibs in one hand

jimidollar
12-11-2017, 06:37 PM
I've heard rumor he can hold 5 McRibs in one hand

Nah, McRibs are already gone in my area. Did he buy extra and store them away?

Hammock Parties
12-11-2017, 06:48 PM
...winning

Ragged Robin
12-11-2017, 06:49 PM
...winning

so is Alex Smtih ROFL

Hammock Parties
12-11-2017, 06:53 PM
so is Alex Smtih ROFL

Averaged 5.4 wins per year before KC.

He's a loser who stumbled into the right head coach.

Ragged Robin
12-11-2017, 06:57 PM
Averaged 5.4 wins per year before KC.

He's a loser who stumbled into the right head coach.

go ahead and post the top 5 most winningest QBs since 2011 ROFL

Simplicity
12-11-2017, 07:06 PM
Andy Reid is not the biggest issue that needs to be addressed right now... Him giving away his OC duties and calling plays might have saved that man's career in KC. It's on Smith and the inconsistent defense that can't adjust because of Bob Sutton.

In58men
12-11-2017, 07:09 PM
Buffets, he’s good at buffets.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-11-2017, 07:25 PM
It's all about a better, nastier defense combined with a QB that can make Reid look like a minor deity.

Phase One Complete.

Fire dumbassed Buttons, and we can get on to Phase Two.

Black Bob
12-11-2017, 07:26 PM
Fuck you caracus. Andy Reid is a good coach.

Hammock Parties
12-11-2017, 07:27 PM
go ahead and post the top 5 most winningest QBs since 2011 ROFL

cherry pick

thegame214
12-11-2017, 08:26 PM
cherry pick

It's like saying name the top 5 winningest CBs and saying Philip Gaines haha

JakeF
12-11-2017, 08:33 PM
He's actually a really creative playcaller. Certainly one of the few best in the NFL. However, you can only get by with smoke and mirrors for so long. Their success was predicated upon motion and misdirection. Once you stop staying in man, Smith has to make NFL throws, and he won't do it.
The offense was better with Pederson calling the plays before he left for Philadelphia. The offense is better with Nagy calling the plays before he leaves for ???. Quarterbacks look better when their offensive coordinator don't put them in 3rd and long like Reid and Schottenheimer do constantly.

splatbass
12-11-2017, 09:12 PM
What is Carcosa really good at?

We know he sucks at posting on CP.

So again, I ask... what is Carcosa ACTUALLY good at?????

Ragged Robin
12-11-2017, 10:31 PM
cherry pick

Here, I'll demonstrate:

Name the guy who has accumulated a ton of wins and has nothing to show for it because they choke in crunch time.

who's picking the argument now ROFL

"Just wins" ROFLROFL

wake me up when Reid actually produces a Superbowl

splatbass
12-11-2017, 10:33 PM
wake me up when Reid actually produces a Superbowl

Well, to be fair, he has made the SB just not with the Chiefs.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-12-2017, 12:46 AM
Well, to be fair, he has made the SB just not with the Chiefs.

If he can manage the incredible feats of:

a) not tripping on his own dick and allowing Nagy to remain prime playcaller, and make sure Nagy STAYS in KC

b) Show Buttons the door to the boneyard and ditch this pitiful "bend don't break" 3-4 horse shit that should have left with Peeholi

c) Allow Veach to do what Veach does with minimal interference



Then there is a VERY good chance that Reid could, at the very least, COMPETE in a Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes II under Center.

splatbass
12-12-2017, 12:51 AM
If he can manage the incredible feats of:

a) not tripping on his own dick and allowing Nagy to remain prime playcaller, and make sure Nagy STAYS in KC

b) Show Buttons the door to the boneyard and ditch this pitiful "bend don't break" 3-4 horse shit that should have left with Peeholi

c) Allow Veach to do what Veach does with minimal interference



Then there is a VERY good chance that Reid could, at the very least, COMPETE in a Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes II under Center.

I'm as hopeful as anyone that Mahomes will lead us to a SB, but it is WAY premature to say there is a VERY good chance. Some of you have been so in love with the idea of drafting a 1st round QB that you are jumping the gun.

kjwood75nro
12-12-2017, 02:15 AM
Fooling pundits into believing he's much smarter and more competent than he actually is.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-12-2017, 03:09 AM
I'm as hopeful as anyone that Mahomes will lead us to a SB, but it is WAY premature to say there is a VERY good chance. Some of you have been so in love with the idea of drafting a 1st round QB that you are jumping the gun.

It's a matter of elements, nothing more. Mahomes doesn't need an entire roster of uber talent, just a few key pieces.

PAChiefsGuy
12-12-2017, 05:42 AM
Averaged 5.4 wins per year before KC.

He's a loser who stumbled into the right head coach.

'Stumbled' into the right HC? More like that HC traded for him because he always liked him and always wanted to coach him. Something Reid has said several times you moron.

Your Alex Smith makes me laugh. Enjoy rooting for the Chargers this wkend 'Chiefs' fan. lol...

Hammock Parties
12-12-2017, 07:02 AM
'Stumbled' into the right HC? More like that HC traded for him because he always liked him and always wanted to coach him.

Yeah, exactly...that's stumbling into the perfect situation.

It's not like HOF coaches don't make shitty decisions. Bill Parcells trading for Drew Bledsoe in Dallas was monumentally stupid.

Hammock Parties
12-12-2017, 07:04 AM
Here, I'll demonstrate:

Name the guy who has accumulated a ton of wins and has nothing to show for it because they choke in crunch time.

who's checking picking the argument now ROFL

"Just wins" ROFLROFL

wake me up when Reid actually produces a Superbowl

Well he's been TO a Super Bowl, something that Smith will never be able to claim, and he's won multiple playoff games.

Reid is most definitely a HOF coach. Alex Smith is lucky they ever crossed paths, because likely no other coach was going to make chicken salad out of his chicken shit talent.

See the first five weeks as proof. But coaching only takes you so far...

https://i.imgur.com/jZy7Z04.gif

Pasta Little Brioni
12-12-2017, 07:42 AM
...winning

Yup. Dude went on a 26-4 run with Alex Smith at QB. Can anyone name a team without an elite QB that has done that? We were due to come back to earth on that record. It's simply impossible to attain without a high elite QB in today's NFL. Alex missing throws in the Giants and Bills games were the sole reasons for 2 of those losses. Dude is a great coach. A few warts, but everyone has them. Not everyone can luck into having a 6th round HOF QB that wins everywhere...other than miami.

26 and fucking 4 guys. Alex Smith wasn't sustaining that.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-12-2017, 07:45 AM
What is Carcosa really good at?

We know he sucks at posting on CP.

So again, I ask... what is Carcosa ACTUALLY good at?????

Plowing a seafood platter at LJS

PAChiefsGuy
12-12-2017, 09:27 AM
Yeah, exactly...that's stumbling into the perfect situation.

It's not like HOF coaches don't make shitty decisions. Bill Parcells trading for Drew Bledsoe in Dallas was monumentally stupid.

You are not even a Chiefs fan... Rooting for the Raiders against us and you call yourself a Chief fan? F**k outta here. All you care about is Smitty failing... Only making gifs when he has a bad game. Where are the gifs when he does well? What about gifs about our defense?

You're a joke

Hammock Parties
12-12-2017, 09:36 AM
You are not even a Chiefs fan... Rooting for the Raiders against us and you call yourself a Chief fan? F**k outta here. All you care about is Smitty failing... Only making gifs when he has bad game. Where are the gifs when he does well? What about gifs about our defense?

You're a joke

You're mad as fuck. ROFL

Not only have I posted multiple GIFs of Smith making plays, I've posted defensive GIFs too, and recently tweeted a Jim Ross/Derrick Johnson mashup that has taken the internet by storm.

Furthermore, even though he had a shit game, I have refrained from posting anything Smith-related this week, because I just don't care anymore. This team is a big fraud, Smith is gone, and it's just not worth it anymore.

You can't possibly appreciate the viewpoint of someone who has lived and died with this team since he was 12 years old so please...just stop.

RunKC
12-12-2017, 09:40 AM
Worst thing for Andy is that this is surely his last contract as a HC and Brady/Hoodie will probably still be in NE through most if not all of it.

Nobody is topping NE until one of Brady/Hoodie is gone.

It sucks but it is what it is.

PAChiefsGuy
12-12-2017, 09:44 AM
You're mad as ****. ROFL

Not only have I posted multiple GIFs of Smith making plays, I've posted defensive GIFs too, and recently tweeted a Jim Ross/Derrick Johnson mashup that has taken the internet by storm.

Furthermore, even though he had a shit game, I have refrained from posting anything Smith-related this week, because I just don't care anymore. This team is a big fraud, Smith is gone, and it's just not worth it anymore.

You can't possibly appreciate the viewpoint of someone who has lived and died with this team since he was 12 years old so please...just stop.

Not mad at all. Do what ya gotta do man. Your life not mine.

O.city
12-12-2017, 09:45 AM
Worst thing for Andy is that this is surely his last contract as a HC and Brady/Hoodie will probably still be in NE through most if not all of it.

Nobody is topping NE until one of Brady/Hoodie is gone.

It sucks but it is what it is.

They ain’t beating Pitt this year

Brady is done

SuperBowl4
12-12-2017, 11:27 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2234093/yumyumandy.gifNow that John Dorsey is gone who delivers Andy's meals?

Quesadilla Joe
12-12-2017, 11:36 AM
That Andy Reid is a tricky guy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Beautiful play design by Andy Reid and the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> offense on this screen to <a href="https://twitter.com/tkelce?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tkelce</a>, who makes safety Karl Joseph miss for a big play.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a> <a href="https://t.co/HBrICzOkbn">pic.twitter.com/HBrICzOkbn</a></p>&mdash; NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLMatchup/status/940617662111109120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

crazycoffey
12-12-2017, 12:04 PM
Andy's really good at pressers too

splatbass
12-12-2017, 12:26 PM
It's a matter of elements, nothing more. Mahomes doesn't need an entire roster of uber talent, just a few key pieces.

You have no way of knowing that. He has never played a meaningful snap in the NFL going against a 1st string defense. He has a good chance, but at this point we don't know much so what you are stating as fact is just speculation and wishful thinking.

Reerun_KC
12-12-2017, 12:50 PM
Clock management
Fixing things
Developing QBs
Red zone play calling
Designing horizontal behind LOS passes

JakeF
12-12-2017, 02:02 PM
Clock management
Fixing things
Developing QBs
Red zone play calling
Designing horizontal behind LOS passes
Clock management
Red zone play calling

:hmmm:

Marcellus
12-12-2017, 04:30 PM
Averaged 5.4 wins per year before KC.

He's a loser who stumbled into the right head coach.

Yup, Alex Smith's win % since coming to KC proves how good of a coach Reid is.

10+ wins average for 5 years?

Reerun_KC
12-12-2017, 04:32 PM
Yup, Alex Smith's win % since coming to KC proves how good of a coach Reid is.



10+ wins average for 5 years?



So he is a QB Guru or not?

Turning a broke dick like Alex into a average small dick QB could be canton worthy.

Marcellus
12-12-2017, 04:36 PM
So he is a QB Guru or not?

Turning a broke dick like Alex into a average small dick QB could be canton worthy.

I think its fair to say he gets all he can out of his QB's talent.

Now imagine him getting all he can out of a guy with Mahomes talent.

Easy 6
12-12-2017, 05:45 PM
Just wait until Money is running Reid's tome of a playbook

Andy will end his career as a genius, and sure fire Hall of Famer

Ragged Robin
12-12-2017, 06:21 PM
Yup. Dude went on a 26-4 run with Alex Smith at QB. Can anyone name a team without an elite QB that has done that?

Smith is the same QB he was in San Francisco with Jim Harbaugh. You guys can't make a "Reid just wins" argument without having that also apply to Smith as well. It's an entirely stupid argument since neither has amounted to much at all. If you like Reid because he "just wins" then you have to like Smith too for the same reason.

ROFL

Hammock Parties
12-12-2017, 06:31 PM
Smith is the same QB he was in San Francisco with Jim Harbaugh. You guys can't make a "Reid just wins" argument without having that also apply to Smith as well. It's an entirely stupid argument since neither has amounted to much at all. If you like Reid because he "just wins" then you have to like Smith too for the same reason.

ROFL

This isn't true, though.

Reid has gotten more out of Smith than Harbaugh ever did, especially this year.

And Reid had a borderline HOF resume before KC. Smith was trash during the same time, other than 1.5 seasons in SF.

Reid is a winner. Smith is just riding those coattails. To Cleveland.

gblowfish
12-12-2017, 08:57 PM
He's good at hockin' up a loogie. Just listen to one of his pressers.

GloryDayz
12-12-2017, 09:17 PM
He must be OK at motivating his team to dress-out because, despite his coaching stupidity, they keep dressing-out.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2017, 01:18 AM
Yup. Dude went on a 26-4 run with Alex Smith at QB. Can anyone name a team without an elite QB that has done that? We were due to come back to earth on that record. It's simply impossible to attain without a high elite QB in today's NFL. Alex missing throws in the Giants and Bills games were the sole reasons for 2 of those losses. Dude is a great coach. A few warts, but everyone has them. Not everyone can luck into having a 6th round HOF QB that wins everywhere...other than miami.

26 and fucking 4 guys. Alex Smith wasn't sustaining that.

If you can look at it, and rightly so, as a deficiency at QB and RB with a little shoring up at the OL, combined with the stone-cold FACT that Buttons is absolutely useless and his scheme sucks shit, and he needs to be fucking shit-canned at the end of this season and the 4-3 reinstalled, and that Veach needs to hit that side of the ball HARD this offseason, you can paint a VERY clear picture of what "winning with Andy Reid" can look like in just a few short seasons:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--yf0f-plX--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/fhrg5zsbgvvv9tkunrzr.jpg

And no, that AIN'T me yanking your chain. That is straight-up reality.

You're mad as fuck. ROFL

Not only have I posted multiple GIFs of Smith making plays, I've posted defensive GIFs too, and recently tweeted a Jim Ross/Derrick Johnson mashup that has taken the internet by storm.

Furthermore, even though he had a shit game, I have refrained from posting anything Smith-related this week, because I just don't care anymore. This team is a big fraud, Smith is gone, and it's just not worth it anymore.

You can't possibly appreciate the viewpoint of someone who has lived and died with this team since he was 12 years old so please...just stop.

He's been here for two seconds, fell in with the idiot/moron crowd, and could possibly be redeemed. As this time of pointlessness draws to a close, I will be revising my attitudes towards a great many things and people.

It's time. *


* There are however cases of irredeemable, useless folks that have never brought a goddamned thing to this board be it humor, sound takes, excellent public relations( SR, I'm looking at you, boo :) ), quality media, money or ANYTHING.

JUST.

NOTHING.

And THAT...I do NOT forgive:

You have no way of knowing that. He has never played a meaningful snap in the NFL going against a 1st string defense. He has a good chance, but at this point we don't know much so what you are stating as fact is just speculation and wishful thinking.

You know what dude? Piss the fuck right off. There's no ground to be found with you in any way, shape, or form; all you want to do is argue, that's it:

Sweets hates the Chiefs cuz they suck? Fuck him.

Sweets hates Smith because he's a fucking waste of legitimate roster talent? Fuck him.

Sweets gets excited when dipshit, 40-year retard Chiefs pull head from ass and draft a UNIVERSE EXPLODING Quarterback prospect? Fuck him.

Sweets begins mending fences with long time posters who he has been friends AND enemies with in preparation for some LEGITIMATE AND EXCITING football? Fuck him?

No brah; fuck you.

Throw up a poll if it pleases you to find out which one of us is the least despised and irrelevant poster in this Lounge?

Drop your fucking panties little girl, cuz' Sweets is coming in DRY.


Now that John Dorsey is gone who delivers Andy's meals?

Couldn't say, but I DO KNOW who will be under his desk and working it really hard, begging to stay in KC....



FIN.

carcosa
12-13-2017, 01:21 AM
What is Carcosa really good at?

We know he sucks at posting on CP.

So again, I ask... what is Carcosa ACTUALLY good at?????

I'm good at posting on CP

cooper barrett
12-13-2017, 01:37 AM
You're mad as ****. ROFL

Not only have I posted multiple GIFs of Smith making plays, I've posted defensive GIFs too, and recently tweeted a Jim Ross/Derrick Johnson mashup that has taken the internet by storm.

Furthermore, even though he had a shit game, I have refrained from posting anything Smith-related this week, because I just don't care anymore. This team is a big fraud, Smith is gone, and it's just not worth it anymore.

You can't possibly appreciate the viewpoint of someone who has lived and died with this team since he was 12 years old so please...just stop.

Ever think about taking up a hobby?


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/05/2555D4F100000578-0-image-a-2_1423126897680.jpg

splatbass
12-13-2017, 01:32 PM
Ever think about taking up a hobby?





http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/05/2555D4F100000578-0-image-a-2_1423126897680.jpg



Being an online douchebag is his hobby.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Rausch
12-13-2017, 03:18 PM
I think its fair to say he gets all he can out of his QB's talent.

Now imagine him getting all he can out of a guy with Mahomes talent.

Next year is a long time to wait.

KC fans should keep in mind we only get so many "next years..."

carcosa
12-16-2017, 08:51 PM
I take it back. The last drive of the first half is proof he is a genious

Reerun_KC
12-16-2017, 09:07 PM
His Two min offense is glorious, a masterful thing of beauty.

kjwood75nro
12-16-2017, 09:19 PM
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Titty Meat
12-17-2017, 03:50 AM
First Chiefs coach to win the division back to back years. Fuck this thread and the OP.

Reerun_KC
12-17-2017, 08:22 AM
First Chiefs coach to win the division back to back years. Fuck this thread and the OP.


Participation trophies for everyone!

Rausch
12-17-2017, 08:24 AM
Participation trophies for everyone!

Winning the division means 1 home playoff game.

You'd prefer the bye but having that first playoff game at home is huge (for everyone not playing in KC.)

chiefzilla1501
12-17-2017, 09:29 AM
We've made a lot of coaching missteps over the past year. I generally have supported Sutton but I was reaching for the pitchforks based on how we played the last 2 months. Scheme seems to have improved, but I think a lot of that is because of talent. One thing you gotta give to this coaching staff... for the most part, they get the right players on the field. I don't know how much of this is Reid and how much is Sutton, but I think we've downplayed how many personnel adjustments we make throughout the year until we find our guy. Last year he found Mitchell after lots of attempts at using different below average corners. This year, he wasn't afraid to bench Mitchell, confidently went with Revis a week after getting embarrassed in his debut, has stuck with Ragland and Pierre-Louis even though they're complete unknowns, and seems to be using Jenkins more. Gotta say, especially on the defensive side of the ball, our coaching has been pretty outstanding at making personnel adjustments. We haven't had a coaching staff in years that was this open to having a revolving carousel of starters.

stevieray
12-17-2017, 09:36 AM
You're mad as ****. ROFL

Not only have I posted multiple GIFs of Smith making plays, I've posted defensive GIFs too, and recently tweeted a Jim Ross/Derrick Johnson mashup that has taken the internet by storm.

Furthermore, even though he had a shit game, I have refrained from posting anything Smith-related this week, because I just don't care anymore. This team is a big fraud, Smith is gone, and it's just not worth it anymore.

You can't possibly appreciate the viewpoint of someone who has lived and died with this team since he was 12 years old so please...just stop.
lived and died with the the team?


Complete bullshit.

Rausch
12-17-2017, 09:39 AM
We've made a lot of coaching missteps over the past year. I generally have supported Sutton but I was reaching for the pitchforks based on how we played the last 2 months. Scheme seems to have improved, but I think a lot of that is because of talent. One thing you gotta give to this coaching staff... for the most part, they get the right players on the field. I don't know how much of this is Reid and how much is Sutton, but I think we've downplayed how many personnel adjustments we make throughout the year until we find our guy. Last year he found Mitchell after lots of attempts at using different below average corners. This year, he wasn't afraid to bench Mitchell, confidently went with Revis a week after getting embarrassed in his debut, has stuck with Ragland and Pierre-Louis even though they're complete unknowns, and seems to be using Jenkins more. Gotta say, especially on the defensive side of the ball, our coaching has been pretty outstanding at making personnel adjustments. We haven't had a coaching staff in years that was this open to having a revolving carousel of starters.

Biggest difference on Offense: Play calling.

Biggest difference on Defense: emphasis on blitzing/rushing the passer.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-17-2017, 09:42 AM
Beating the Chargers

Rausch
12-17-2017, 09:55 AM
Beating the Chargers

That's a FACT...

carcosa
01-06-2018, 06:26 PM
Fire his fat ass. He can take Alex and the entire coaching staff with him.

jonzie04
01-06-2018, 07:08 PM
He's certainly good at bending over and taking it up the ass in the playoffs

baitism
01-06-2018, 07:12 PM
It's rare to see someone get outcoached that badly in a playoff game.

Eleazar
01-06-2018, 07:12 PM
Losing 6 of his last 7 playoff games?

Eleazar
01-06-2018, 07:13 PM
It's rare to see someone get outcoached that badly in a playoff game.

And not even by a great coach. By one that was maybe getting fired if he lost the game.

Best22
01-06-2018, 07:19 PM
First Chiefs coach to win the division back to back years. **** this thread and the OP.

That doesn't mean anything to me anymore. At first I liked it, but now I'd rather not even be in the playoffs.

Chargers should have got it. They wouldn't blow a 18 point lead. Too bad they always lose to us

:cuss:

Eleazar
01-06-2018, 07:22 PM
First Chiefs coach to win the division back to back years. **** this thread and the OP.

You're the guy who wears the "AFC West Champions" t-shirt around town when they got embarrassed in the wild card round, aren't you

carcosa
01-06-2018, 07:39 PM
It's rare to see someone get outcoached that badly in a playoff game.

And we get to see it EVERY YEAR!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-07-2018, 10:35 AM
Everyone will be singing a new tune about Reid in a couple of seasons, as Mahomes will have made him look like genius.

rabblerouser
01-07-2018, 11:15 AM
Everyone will be singing a new tune about Reid in a couple of seasons, as Mahomes will have made him look like genius.

ROFL

Mahomes gonna take that bubble screen to a new level!

J/K, Reid will still have Kelce throwing to Cam Irving on 3rd and 1.

Because Reid...

rabblerouser
01-07-2018, 11:21 AM
Everyone will be singing a new tune about Reid in a couple of seasons, as Mahomes will have made him look like genius.

ROFL

Mahomes gonna take that bubble screen to a new level!

J/K, Reid will still have Kelce throwing to Cam Irving on 3rd and 1.

Because Reid...

Pasta Little Brioni
01-07-2018, 11:23 AM
Getting cucked by that buffoon Mularkey

rabblerouser
01-07-2018, 11:24 AM
This isn't true, though.

Reid has gotten more out of Smith than Harbaugh ever did, especially this year.

And Reid had a borderline HOF resume before KC. Smith was trash during the same time, other than 1.5 seasons in SF.

Reid is a winner. Smith is just riding those coattails. To Cleveland.

Harbaugh had Alex Smith outgun Drew Fucking Brees in the 2011 NFC Divisional and had Alex Smith playing in an NFC Championship game.

But please...tell me more about how Reid has gotten more out of Smith.

When did Reid and Smith take us to the AFC Championship Game?

Must've missed it.

rabblerouser
01-07-2018, 11:26 AM
It's rare to see someone get outcoached that badly in a playoff game.


Stunning in its ineptitude.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 11:43 AM
Now you are beginning to see the truth. Now you are starting to understand why we were happy to see Andy finally leave town. Everyone said we were crazy and unintelligent spoiled fans. You've only had this happen to you 2 years in a row... oh boy its just the beginning.

Wait till it's 12 years of groundhog day over and over and over again.

Ignoring the running game
Blowing leads
Terrible clock management
I gotta put the players in a better position to win
Inability to win the big game
Getting outcoached after halftime
Horrible gameday coach

Oh it's just the beginning for you poor Chiefs fans, but if you don't understand yet, you will.

Times Yours

rabblerouser
01-07-2018, 11:46 AM
Now you are beginning to see the truth. Now you are starting to understand why we were happy to see Andy finally leave town. Everyone said we were crazy and unintelligent spoiled fans. You've only had this happen to you 2 years in a row... oh boy its just the beginning.

Wait till it's 12 years of groundhog day over and over and over again.

Ignoring the running game
Blowing leads
Terrible clock management
I gotta put the players in a better position to win
Inability to win the big game
Getting outcoached after halftime
Horrible gameday coach

Oh it's just the beginning for you poor Chiefs fans, but if you don't understand yet, you will.

Times Yours

Oh I understand that this is exactly who he is, and this is exactly why he got shitcanned in Philly.

I'm just afraid that PMII has bought us 5-10 more years of this bullshit.

carcosa
01-07-2018, 11:48 AM
Now you are beginning to see the truth. Now you are starting to understand why we were happy to see Andy finally leave town. Everyone said we were crazy and unintelligent spoiled fans. You've only had this happen to you 2 years in a row... oh boy its just the beginning.

Wait till it's 12 years of groundhog day over and over and over again.

Ignoring the running game
Blowing leads
Terrible clock management
I gotta put the players in a better position to win
Inability to win the big game
Getting outcoached after halftime
Horrible gameday coach

Oh it's just the beginning for you poor Chiefs fans, but if you don't understand yet, you will.

Times Yours

It's been 4 out of 5 years, actually. And many of us were wary of Reid from the beginning.

carcosa
01-07-2018, 11:50 AM
I'd love to see some of the people who said this thread sucked defend Andy after yet another's massive playoff failure!!!!! You still give a shit about those 10 regular season wins or what!?!?!?!?

lcarus
01-07-2018, 11:52 AM
He's great at wobbling into the locker room and taking praise after we squeak out a win over a team we should've beat by 17.

He's great at telling everyone "it's on me" and "we need to get better" and "that's my responsibility" after we lose to a team we should've beat by 17.

He's not so great at clock management. 22 seconds and we had 1 timeout before halftime. So what the hell let's just let it run down to 3 seconds and get 1 pass off when we could've called timeout and had 3 shots at the end zone. We're lucky we got that TD on that play.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 12:01 PM
Andy Reid the man is one of the kindest and most honorable human beings you will ever meet. Andy Reid the playoff coach will make you want to pee on strangers.

You'll make the playoffs alot, if you're happy with that enjoy the ride. Just don't expect to ever win it all.

notorious
01-07-2018, 12:14 PM
Mike Mularkey has more playoff wins in Arrowhead than the Chiefs the last 23 years.

Indy is still tied with the Chiefs for playoff wins in Arrowhead since it was built.

Hammock Parties
01-07-2018, 01:30 PM
he was calling plays again LMAO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS9TzNfVQAAPsZB.jpg:large

FloridaMan88
01-07-2018, 01:50 PM
Reid is a decent CEO-type HC who needs a strong staff like he had during his early years in Philadelphia. Reid instantly turned around the Chiefs from the Fat Scott laughing stock, and he deserves credit for that. However to get to the next level he needs to upgrade his coaching staff and recognize his limitations as a playcaller and fully delegate playcalling responsibilities to Nagy.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-07-2018, 01:51 PM
That's a BBQ menu, Hammock

DrRyan
01-07-2018, 02:26 PM
I've said for years now, Monday through Saturday Andy is likely a top 5 coach in the league. On game day, he is in the bottom third. Incapable of making in game adjustment.

It is unfortunate the KC media is worthless. How about asking the simple question, "Andy, who was calling the plays in the second half?"

He sure seems to be speaking into the mic and looking at the play sheet every time he was shown in the second half.

Rain Man
01-07-2018, 02:37 PM
One thing that rips my heart out of my chest is consistently going to unknown players in clutch situations. When we were winning the past few weeks, we were consistently putting the ball in the hands of Hill and Kelce when we absolutely had to have yards. And guess what? It worked.

In yesterday's game, the passes in major clutch situations went to Orson Charles and Albert Wilson. Maybe someday those guys will be stars, and they deserve to get their chances, but not in a playoff game with the game on the line. Do it 1 time in 20 and it's clever. Do it 19 times out of 20 and it's dumb.

JakeF
01-07-2018, 02:41 PM
Andy Reid is good at getting beaten in the playoffs by lesser teams.

Coogs
01-07-2018, 02:44 PM
he was calling plays again LMAO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS9TzNfVQAAPsZB.jpg:large

What was the rational behind this decision anyway?

GordonGekko
01-07-2018, 02:47 PM
Reid is a decent CEO-type HC who needs a strong staff like he had during his early years in Philadelphia. Reid instantly turned around the Chiefs from the Fat Scott laughing stock, and he deserves credit for that. However to get to the next level he needs to upgrade his coaching staff and recognize his limitations as a playcaller and fully delegate playcalling responsibilities to Nagy.

Annnndddd he needs a premiere QB, not the cuck choke artist band-aid QB that is AS...

JakeF
01-07-2018, 02:48 PM
What was the rational behind this decision anyway?Andy can't keep his nose out of the playcalling. In the 2nd, Andy thought we needed to go into prevent mode so he took over. He will continue to do this until he retires.

DrRyan
01-07-2018, 02:48 PM
What was the rational behind this decision anyway?

It certainly appears he was calling the plays. Like I said before, that the KC media did not specifically ask him that question in the post game is the #1 question they should have asked. Followed by, "what in game adjustments did you make in the second half? Why were you unable to move the ball at all in the second half? Why did you completely abandon the run in the second half?" Unfortunately the KC media has no interest in asking journalism 101 questions of Andy.

It is also one of the first questions I am asking Nagy if I am interviewing him for a HC job. Were you or Andy calling the plays in the second half?

Coogs
01-07-2018, 03:22 PM
It certainly appears he was calling the plays. Like I said before, that the KC media did not specifically ask him that question in the post game is the #1 question they should have asked. Followed by, "what in game adjustments did you make in the second half? Why were you unable to move the ball at all in the second half? Why did you completely abandon the run in the second half?" Unfortunately the KC media has no interest in asking journalism 101 questions of Andy.

It is also one of the first questions I am asking Nagy if I am interviewing him for a HC job. Were you or Andy calling the plays in the second half?

I agree. This is a question that needs to be asked by the media. Even if it has not been asked yet, there is still time for it to be asked.

jaa1025
01-07-2018, 03:40 PM
No reason to even hope that Reid will be fired. He’s not going anywhere. He signed a contract extension this year likely at or north of the 7.5 mil per season he was already earning. Clark is not going to eat that entire salary for a coach that has brought stability and winning back to the organization.

Best that fans can hope for us that 1) he stops calling plays and 2) he cleans house with the coaching staff (Sutton) and starts turning over this roster.

Coogs
01-07-2018, 03:45 PM
No reason to even hope that Reid will be fired. He’s not going anywhere. He signed a contract extension this year likely at or north of the 7.5 mil per season he was already earning. Clark is not going to eat that entire salary for a coach that has brought stability and winning back to the organization.

Best that fans can hope for us that 1) he stops calling plays and 2) he cleans house with the coaching staff (Sutton) and starts turning over this roster.

He did stop calling plays the last few games of the season, and the offense responded in a big way. Why did he resume calling plays yesterday? Not sure if it was the whole game or just the second half, but the question still needs to be asked.

Easy 6
01-07-2018, 03:52 PM
Why did he resume calling plays yesterday? Not sure if it was the whole game or just the second half, but the question still needs to be asked.

The guy just cant help himself, he wants to be the man in big situations

Ragged Robin
01-07-2018, 03:53 PM
The guy just cant help himself, he wants to be the man in big situations

This.

rabblerouser
01-07-2018, 04:08 PM
We all know he's terrible at clock management. We all know he clams up in the playoffs. But what is he actually good at?

This team isn't disciplined. They draw a million flags a game and consistently make stupid decisions.

The playcalls are seemingly random, with no regard for situation or matchups.

When somebody gets hurt, nobody seems to be capable of stepping up.

And as evidenced by the first half today against one of the worst teams in the league, Reid doesn't seem to be good at bye weeks anymore either.

So again, I ask... what is Andy Reid ACTUALLY good at?????
Eating.

Coogs
01-07-2018, 04:12 PM
The guy just cant help himself, he wants to be the man in big situations

Veach and Hunt need to be asking why something that was working very well was suddenly changed.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 04:18 PM
Andy Reid is good at getting beaten in the playoffs by lesser teams.

This!!

Listen I have no Ill will toward you guys and I actually hope he wins one for you. He's a great guy in the real world. Does a ton for charity and never asks for recognition.

But my God he's torn our hearts out in Philly so many times. His initial drives that he writes up beforehand are great. Andy's great during the regular season. He's better than 80% of the coaches in the NFL..... but he CAN NOT CHANGE ON THE FLY when it counts. He will consistently get you a lead in the first half, then at halftime the good coaches of other teams will figure out what he's doing and switch it up and guess what.... Andy doesn't change.

How the hell do you give up a 21 - 3 lead? How do you only run the ball 11 times with one of the best RB rookies in the league??? We were all sitting here in Philly saying, oh boy here it comes. He's gonna Andy Reid this game.

I feel for you guys

Welcome to our world

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 04:35 PM
It's been 4 out of 5 years, actually. And many of us were wary of Reid from the beginning.

I was talking about brutal inexplicable playoff losses. He's great in the regular season. We won the division 4 years in a row and went to the NFL championship 4 years in a row. Made the Super Bowl and had the lead most of the game against NE. Had the ball to win the game with 3 mins left..... Got Andy Reided.

Now we have Andy Jr coaching us.

God help both our teams.

chiefzilla1501
01-07-2018, 04:37 PM
This!!

Listen I have no Ill will toward you guys and I actually hope he wins one for you. He's a great guy in the real world. Does a ton for charity and never asks for recognition.

But my God he's torn our hearts out in Philly so many times. His initial drives that he writes up beforehand are great. Andy's great during the regular season. He's better than 80% of the coaches in the NFL..... but he CAN NOT CHANGE ON THE FLY when it counts. He will consistently get you a lead in the first half, then at halftime the good coaches of other teams will figure out what he's doing and switch it up and guess what.... Andy doesn't change.

How the hell do you give up a 21 - 3 lead? How do you only run the ball 11 times with one of the best RB rookies in the league??? We were all sitting here in Philly saying, oh boy here it comes. He's gonna Andy Reid this game.

I feel for you guys

Welcome to our world

Sadly, we were already in that world. You had Andy Reid, we had Marty Schottenheimer.

manchambo
01-07-2018, 04:38 PM
Have Vance Joseph coach the team for a little while and you will remember all the things Reid is good at.

The post season thing is frustrating, to be sure, but don't lose sight of the fact that there aren't so many guys out there who can put together a quality team year in and year out.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-07-2018, 04:41 PM
Andy Reid the man is one of the kindest and most honorable human beings you will ever meet. Andy Reid the playoff coach will make you want to pee on strangers.

You'll make the playoffs alot, if you're happy with that enjoy the ride. Just don't expect to ever win it all.

ROFL

Bret Veach the GM and Pat Mahomes the QB are going to be more than enough to cover Reid's ever-expanding fat ass, but yes I see your points.

GloryDayz
01-07-2018, 04:49 PM
Veach and Hunt need to be asking why something that was working very well was suddenly changed.

Hunt's in Fiji and doesn't give a fuck.

ChiefsCountry
01-07-2018, 04:54 PM
Andy Reid hate is beyond stupid. He is a damn good coach. There is a ****ing reason his coaching tree is large in the league. You are going to lose playoff games with Alex Smith as your QB. When you have the shittier QB you are going to lose. Mahomes will get us over the hump.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 04:55 PM
ROFL

Bret Veach the GM and Pat Mahomes the QB are going to be more than enough to cover Reid's ever-expanding fat ass, but yes I see your points.

Well yes that's one thing you guys are smarter at than we were. We gave him the keys to the whole thing, GM/HC/OC. He had one of the greatest defensive minds of our era in Jim Johnson running the defense but Andy was EVERYTHING else. If you guys can just make him head coach and get him a play caller, you may do what we couldn't with him. There are very few coaches in the league who can build such an atmosphere of undying loyalty and trust with his players like Andy Reid.

If your GM can harness that and keep him away from calling plays on game day, I see great things for the Chiefs in your future.

Cheers

Discuss Thrower
01-07-2018, 04:57 PM
Andy Reid hate is beyond stupid. He is a damn good coach. There is a ****ing reason his coaching tree is large in the league. You are going to lose playoff games with Alex Smith as your QB. When you have the shittier QB you are going to lose. Mahomes will get us over the hump.

He abandoned the run, just as was predicted.

He's coached nearly 20 years in the league and has what, one SB appearance and maybe three conference championship game appearance -most of which can be attributed to Jim Johnson's presence as DC?

Yeah. He ain't gonna get it done -and by *it* I mean advance past the divisional round unless they face a palooka team.... like the Chiefs..

kcpasco
01-07-2018, 04:57 PM
Andy has all the power here but not in title. If you don’t think he has control over Veach than you are nuts. Andy even has Clark swinging from his nuts.

ChiefsCountry
01-07-2018, 05:00 PM
He abandoned the run, just as was predicted.

No he didn't. Go read the drive chart in the second half.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 05:02 PM
Andy Reid hate is beyond stupid. He is a damn good coach. There is a ****ing reason his coaching tree is large in the league. You are going to lose playoff games with Alex Smith as your QB. When you have the shittier QB you are going to lose. Mahomes will get us over the hump.

I'll ask you how you feel in 10 years of the same

kcpasco
01-07-2018, 05:03 PM
I'll ask you how you feel in 10 years of the same

We are already half way there.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 05:06 PM
We are already half way there.

Gotta give him a pass at the start, you guys were set to make noise last year and this year. Give the man credit for building the first three years. Now when you are ready to beat teams and be the favorite, now u start the clock hehe.

Its all fun and games until you are expected to win. THEN you get Andy Reided

ChiefsCountry
01-07-2018, 05:08 PM
I'll ask you how you feel in 10 years of the same

We finally have a fucking QB with Mahomes. Eagles won when McNabb was in his prime and not hurt. It's not rocket science.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 05:09 PM
We finally have a ****ing QB with Mahomes. Eagles won when McNabb was in his prime and not hurt. It's not rocket science.

But we didnt. We got to the NFC championship with the best defense in the league 4 times. We got to the SB once. We didn't win a thing in 14 years of Andy.

We got to the SB because we signed TO

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 05:13 PM
Am I the only one who thought Alex Smith did fine yesterday?

Yeah it isnt my team and I respect that, but I started him in my playoff fantasy team and Im happy

Molitoth
01-07-2018, 05:14 PM
Am I the only one who thought Alex Smith did fine yesterday?

Yeah it isnt my team and I respect that, but I started him in my playoff fantasy team and Im happy

The OFFENSE AND DEFENSE did fine for 1/2 of a game.

The OFFENSE AND DEFENSE did terrible for 1/2 of a game.



The defense held the Titans to 3 points in the first half and that was after getting JOBBED by the refs.
They all came out and shit their pants in the second half, including Alex who played like a ****ING PUSSY.

Red Dawg
01-07-2018, 05:14 PM
Smith was a total fail in the second half. Like he was many times this season. Him a the refs are responsible for the loss. He sucks ass when he's needed to win games.

ChiefsCountry
01-07-2018, 05:14 PM
But we didnt. We got to the NFC championship with the best defense in the league 4 times. We got to the SB once. We didn't win a thing in 14 years of Andy

You lost to fucking Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. You lost the previous year in the NFC Championship game because McNabb got hurt. You lost in the NFC Championship game to the best fucking offense of all time in the Rams. You lost in the NFC Championship Game to one of the best fucking defenses of all time in the Bucs.

McNabb got hurt in 2005 and was never the same again. Window closed. Never got another franchise QB.

You aren't going to win in January without a franchise QB.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 05:19 PM
You lost to ****ing Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. You lost the previous year in the NFC Championship game because McNabb got hurt. You lost in the NFC Championship game to the best ****ing offense of all time in the Rams. You lost in the NFC Championship Game to one of the best ****ing defenses of all time in the Bucs.

McNabb got hurt in 2005 and was never the same again. Window closed. Never got another franchise QB.

You aren't going to win in January without a franchise QB.

I respect your view, not worth getting in an argument about. I'll put it on Andys not drafting any WRs of any worth for McNabb and his terrible end game time management on our SB loss. Tom Brady was on the ropes and face bloodied by Jim Johnsons blitz packages. Andy didn't force the run down their throat when they were against the ropes. Sorta like yesterday.

I'm not here to troll I wish you all well. Take it easy

Pasta Little Brioni
01-07-2018, 05:21 PM
McNabb wasn't good enough. Mahomes will be. Things have just started in KC...

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 05:26 PM
Come join our Eagles site we can compare notes next year with Andy and Andy Jr

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-07-2018, 05:26 PM
We finally have a fucking QB with Mahomes. Eagles won when McNabb was in his prime and not hurt. It's not rocket science.

Exactly.

You know it, I know it, it's not that hard.

#outkickingreidscoverage2018

ChiefsCountry
01-07-2018, 05:30 PM
Come join our Eagles site we can compare notes next year with Andy and Andy Jr

You have a franchise QB now in Wentz. And you won't have him this weekend, so your playoff stint will be short. It's not hard to see.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-07-2018, 05:32 PM
Come join our Eagles site we can compare notes next year with Andy and Andy Jr

Your season ends on Saturday, dude

Molitoth
01-07-2018, 05:33 PM
You have a franchise QB now in Wentz. And you won't have him this weekend, so your playoff stint will be short. It's not hard to see.

Won't it be crazy when Doug Petersen goes further in the playoffs than Andy... (without his stud QB) ????

Rooting for the Eagles....
Unknowingly missing Doug Petersen.

pugsnotdrugs19
01-07-2018, 05:34 PM
For all of Reid's warts, there still aren't too many coaches I'd rather have here while Mahomes is stepping in. I don't want that kid to go through a bunch of coaching changes, especially before he is becoming the starter.

You've gotta see if he can cover up Reid's deficiencies and if not, you fire him in a couple years.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-07-2018, 05:36 PM
Come join our Eagles site we can compare notes next year with Andy and Andy Jr

I have no problem with this; post the link!

Chiefnj2
01-07-2018, 06:28 PM
Andy Reid is great at saying "That’s my responsibility as the head coach of the football team. We have to do a better job. I'm going to look at that" in response to every question asked after blowing a halftime lead.

Hammock Parties
01-07-2018, 06:29 PM
For all of Reid's warts, there still aren't too many coaches I'd rather have here while Mahomes is stepping in. I don't want that kid to go through a bunch of coaching changes, especially before he is becoming the starter.

You've gotta see if he can cover up Reid's deficiencies and if not, you fire him in a couple years.

Reid is going to retire here.

He won't be fired. At best he'll resign if/when he realizes he can't get it done with an elite talent at QB.

Eleazar
01-07-2018, 06:38 PM
Andy Reid is great at saying "That’s my responsibility as the head coach of the football team. We have to do a better job. I'm going to look at that" in response to every question asked after blowing a halftime lead.

...and then never changing anything, making the same mistakes over and over for 20 years

GloryDayz
01-07-2018, 06:50 PM
...and then never changing anything, making the same mistakes over and over for 20 years

^This^

Andy's just lip service, I doubt he stays awake during film reviews. If he does stay awake, he's slow...

ChiefFanForHire
01-07-2018, 07:12 PM
He's great keeping his mouth shut and letting the NFL bend us over when they see fit. He has to be, that's why they pay him.

gold_and_red
01-07-2018, 07:15 PM
Reid is going to retire here.

He won't be fired. At best he'll resign if/when he realizes he can't get it done with an elite talent at QB.

How many more years? I say three.

Eleazar
01-07-2018, 07:23 PM
How many more years? I say three.

Well, figuring that Sutton is the sacrificial lamb this offseason and next year the excuse for retaining him will be the need for stability for Mahomes’ development, I’d say he’s got 3-4 more lives left even without any further playoff wins.

ChiefsCountry
01-07-2018, 07:27 PM
Andy Reid Playoff Wins and Loses vs Quarterbacks
Wins
Shaun King (Donovan McNabb)
Brad Johnson (Donovan McNabb)
Shane Matthews (Donovan McNabb)
Michael Vick (Donovan McNabb)
Brett Favre (Donovan McNabb)
Daunte Culpepper (Donovan McNabb)
Michael Vick (Donovan McNabb)
Eli Manning (Donovan McNabb)
Tarvaris Jackson (Donovan McNabb)
Eli Manning (Donovan McNabb)
Brian Hoyer (Alex Smith)

Loses
Kerry Collins (Donovan McNabb)
Kurt Warner (Donovan McNabb)
Brad Johnson (Donovan McNabb)
Jake Delhomme (Donovan McNabb)
Tom Brady (Donovan McNabb)
Drew Brees (Donovan McNabb)
Kurt Warner (Donovan McNabb)
Tony Romo (Donovan McNabb)
Aaron Rodgers (Michael Vick)
Andrew Luck (Alex Smith)
Tom Brady (Alex Smith)
Ben Roethlisberger (Alex Smith)
Marcus Mariota (Alex Smith)

Wins vs Hall of Famers - 3 (Favre, 2 Eli Manning)
Loses vs Hall of Famers - 7 (2 Brady, 2 Kurt Warner, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger)

Marty Schottenheimer Playoff Wins and Loses vs Quarterbacks
Wins
Pat Ryan (Bernie Kosar)
Jack Trudeau (Bernie Kosar)
Todd Marinovich (Steve DeBerg)
Neil O'Donnell (Joe Montana)
Warren Moon (Joe Montana)

Loses
Dan Marino (Bernie Kosar)
John Elway (Bernie Kosar)
John Elway (Bernie Kosar)
Warren Moon (Bernie Kosar)
Dan Marino (Steve DeBerg)
Jim Kelly (Steve DeBerg)
Stan Humphires (Dave Kreig)
Jim Kelly (Joe Montana)
Jim Harbaugh (Steve Bono)
John Elway (Elvis Grbac)
Chad Pennington (Drew Brees)
Tom Brady (Phillip Rivers)

Wins vs Hall of Famers - 1 (Moon)
Loses vs Hall of Famers - 9 (3 Elway, 2 Marino, 2 Kelly, Moon, Brady)

Puts things in perspective a little more.

FlyEaglesFly
01-07-2018, 09:18 PM
You have a franchise QB now in Wentz. And you won't have him this weekend, so your playoff stint will be short. It's not hard to see.

This wont age well.... :thumb:

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
01-07-2018, 09:25 PM
Im a little embarrassed to admit it, but I still love Andy.

GloryDayz
01-07-2018, 09:28 PM
Im a little embarrassed to admit it, but I still love Andy.

You should be.













Sorry, that was mean..

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-07-2018, 09:33 PM
For all of Reid's warts, there still aren't too many coaches I'd rather have here while Mahomes is stepping in. I don't want that kid to go through a bunch of coaching changes, especially before he is becoming the starter.

You've gotta see if he can cover up Reid's deficiencies and if not, you fire him in a couple years.

Andy Reid is great at saying "That’s my responsibility as the head coach of the football team. We have to do a better job. I'm going to look at that" in response to every question asked after blowing a halftime lead.

Reid is going to retire here.

He won't be fired. At best he'll resign if/when he realizes he can't get it done with an elite talent at QB.

Spot on.

All three posts.

I DEFINITELY want Andy Reid here for a MINIMUM of three starting years for PMII.

After that, it's going to be time to move on unless The ReidHomes bring home the Big One.

BlackOp
01-07-2018, 09:51 PM
He's great keeping his mouth shut and letting the NFL bend us over when they see fit. He has to be, that's why they pay him.

There is more truth to that statement than people realize...and why Dorsey left under such strange circumstances. Hunt is a corrupt Goldman-Sachs protege...and if you know anything about them, they are one of the biggest evils on the planet...plague of modern society. CHunt is currently being sued by the state of New Mexico for ripping off the tax payers there...he's not a good human.

like gBlowfish said...the NFL needs perennial winning franchises and perpetual "cursed" ones. It's not an accident that KC is an extremely small market much like Cleveland and Detroit...and they share the same history of failure. 1-11 postseason record with epic collapses isn't an accident.

Reid's "yes man" bend-over career was on display in the second half....he's responsible for 2 of the four biggest collapses in NFL history...achieved in a short 5 year span. This franchise has collapsed even when they are the best team in the AFC...law of averages says there is rotten, dead rat somewhere...and the one constant is Hunt ownership.

jaa1025
01-07-2018, 10:28 PM
I think Reids biggest problem is when he gets a lead. He doesn't know how to go for the kill shot. You don't see teams like NE let the foot off the gas with a 2-3 score game. They are still the same aggressive team throughout the entire game.

srvy
01-07-2018, 11:16 PM
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rabblerouser
01-08-2018, 08:33 AM
I think Reids biggest problem is when he gets a lead. He doesn't know how to go for the kill shot. You don't see teams like NE let the foot off the gas with a 2-3 score game. They are still the same aggressive team throughout the entire game.

I think Reid has more than one "biggest problem" :

His clock management is terrible.

His play calling has been ATROCIOUS, from always throwing at the sideline, to stupid trick plays (Kelce to Irving on 3rd down?), to abandoning the run CONSTANTLY, to calling that option on 3rd down last Sat...he sucks.

His situational awareness is non existent - it's like he's watching a different game than everyone else.

Fuck him.

carcosa
01-24-2018, 07:36 PM
He's great at retaining 100 year old dogshit coordinators!!!! Thanks Andy, you stubborn piece of shit!!!

GloryDayz
01-24-2018, 11:18 PM
What the fuck... Fuck you Andy. You fat piece of shit! And Clark too. Motherfuckers!

This team is fucked!

BigRedChief
01-25-2018, 12:05 AM
Some on here need some perspective. Remember Haley/Crennel/Gunther/Herm etc. it can get a lot worse.

The NFL just hired 2 of his OC’s to be head coaches in the last 3 years.. One is already in the Super Bowl this year with fucking Foles as his QB.

If any NFL team needs a coach and Reid is available, they will hire him over any person on the face of the earth except for Bellicheck.

Hammock Parties
01-25-2018, 12:22 AM
Reid is good at putting his players in position to win games.

All the QB had to do was connect on open fucking throws the last two postseasons and we're in the AFC Championship game/Divisional round.

Not his fault.

bigjosh
01-25-2018, 12:33 AM
Andy is perfectly fine at calling plays, designing schemes that beat coverage, mentoring young quarterbacks, making quarterbacks look better than they really are (see McNabb, Kolb, Vick, Smith) and outcoaching 95% of other NFL head coaches.

Not saying that Andy does not have shortcomings, but he is the best coach this franchise has had in 40 fucking years.

SuperBowl4
01-25-2018, 07:18 AM
eating?

SuperBowl4
01-25-2018, 07:20 AM
Reid is going to retire here.

He won't be fired. At best he'll resign if/when he realizes he can't get it done with an elite talent at QB.Or due to health issues

SuperBowl4
01-25-2018, 07:23 AM
I've said for years now, Monday through Saturday Andy is likely a top 5 coach in the league. On game day, he is in the bottom third. Incapable of making in game adjustment.

It is unfortunate the KC media is worthless. How about asking the simple question, "Andy, who was calling the plays in the second half?"

He sure seems to be speaking into the mic and looking at the play sheet every time he was shown in the second half.If Jason Whitlock was still around I'm sure he would have a field day with Andy's play calling and both playoff choke jobs

GloryDayz
01-25-2018, 07:47 AM
Reid is good at putting his players in position to win games.

All the QB had to do was connect on open fucking throws the last two postseasons and we're in the AFC Championship game/Divisional round.

Not his fault.

Sorry, he sucks at knowing when his DC is fucking moron. No matter what he continues to do to keep his players on the offense to drop passes (unlike better coaches), he's the head coach so he owns Sutton and all Sutton's faults.

I don't think quitting will be enough if this team fails to succeed next year. I'm sick a tired of always having to say "next year"! And let me preview next year's excuses from the Chiefs and the Chiefs' suck-ups.

* We had the toughest schedules in the league.

* It's not like we're in a division like the Pats are in.

* Players X, Y, and Z were hurt.

* Oh, and, "We have to do better", and it'll start with the fat fuck who never fixes shit.

* Clark won't say a fucking thing.