Media Telling Chiefs to bench Smith Megathread

[oaklandhater]

http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/23300/with-freefall-continuing-chiefs-need-to-think-about-a-move-to-patrick-mahomes-ii

https://deadspin.com/the-chiefs-are-flailing-1820750676

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2746071-chiefs-bullish-on-patrick-mahomes-ability-to-replace-alex-smith-in-2018

https://fansided.com/2017/11/26/chiefs-start-patrick-mahomes-week-
13/

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article186610503.html

Espn Deadspin bleacher Fansided and Cris Carter saying mahomes should start.

[kcpasco]

Fat Andy don’t care

[Rasputin]

If/when Alex Smith goes down with an injury and Patrick Mahomes II takes over and starts driving the field for touchdowns. It would be proof Andy Reid hold this team back. He would make himself look smart if he makes the switch than have him go in for injured Alex Smith.

[jjchieffan]

I didn't want him starting day one. And I didn't want him starting while Alex was playing well. But now, we've lost 5 of 6. There are just 5 games left on the season, and Alex is playing horrible. At this point, bring in Mahomes. I couldn't care less about this season now. Just get Mahomes some experience.

[TEX]

I didn't want him starting day one. And I didn't want him starting while Alex was playing well. But now, we've lost 5 of 6. There are just 5 games left on the season, and Alex is playing horrible. At this point, bring in Mahomes. I couldn't care less about this season now. Just get Mahomes some experience.

Yep. It's year 5 with Smith. He's the same QB he was year 1. Time to move on now and give Mahomes experience.

[oaklandhater]

If/when Alex Smith goes down with an injury and Patrick Mahomes II takes over and starts driving the field for touchdowns. It would be proof Andy Reid hold this team back. He would make himself look smart if he makes the switch than have him go in for injured Alex Smith.

I hope to see the look on Alex face watching Mahomes Move the ball down the field with ease.

https://imgoat.com/uploads/f39f8317fb/60588.jpg (https://imgoat.com/v/60588)

I love this picture you can see the sadness in Alex's face.


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[oaklandhater]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For my KC folks: It&#39;s time for Patrick Mahomes. Enough is enough.</p>&mdash; nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/934889042923151360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Ming the Merciless]

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[Deberg_1990]

The Hunts haven't cleared it yet

Because Chiefs

[mschiefs1984]

Won't matter until Andy gets a fucking clue and does it

[TwistedChief]

I didn't want him starting day one. And I didn't want him starting while Alex was playing well. But now, we've lost 5 of 6. There are just 5 games left on the season, and Alex is playing horrible. At this point, bring in Mahomes. I couldn't care less about this season now. Just get Mahomes some experience.

Nothing more needs to be said. //////

[Rasputin]

I didn't want him starting day one. And I didn't want him starting while Alex was playing well. But now, we've lost 5 of 6. There are just 5 games left on the season, and Alex is playing horrible. At this point, bring in Mahomes. I couldn't care less about this season now. Just get Mahomes some experience.

At the same time we can win with Patrick Mahomes II. No way he would play as bad or timid as Alex Smith. Andy Reid is holding the team back not making the switch.

Patrick could have opened up that offense today

[Red Dawg]

That about covers it.

[SuperBowl4]

Andy said he needs to take care of a couple other things first instead of switching QB's? What could be more important than benching Smith for Mahomes?

[TLO]

Andy said he needs to take care of a couple other things first instead of switching QB's? What could be more important than benching Smith for Mahomes?

He needs to take a nap and hit the buffet first

[The Franchise]

My guess is we’ll see Alex for 3 more games. We’ll lose to the Jets, Raiders and then the Chargers will take the lead in the division. THEN Andy will start Mahomes but it will be too late.

[oldman]

Andy said he needs to take care of a couple other things first instead of switching QB's? What could be more important than benching Smith for Mahomes?

Look at the freaking film, Andy.

[oaklandhater]

Chiefs Must Bench Alex Smith in Order to Save Season
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2746124-chiefs-must-bench-alex-smith-in-order-to-save-season

This is not stated with any type of maliciousness. It's not a hot take to get people screaming. It's a measured response to what the eyes see and what you see are the wheels falling off in Kansas City.

It isn’t only the wheels, though. It's also the landing gear, the wings, the fuselage...all of it is coming apart. It's like that scene in Gravity when debris hits the space station and all that's left are all of these itty-bitty pieces of metal floating in low orbit. Man down, bro.

A Chiefs team that started 5-0 is now 6-5. On Sunday, it lost to a mediocre Buffalo team, in Kansas City, 16-10, and the score wasn't really that close. The Bills dominated, besting K.C. in total yards, time of possession, rushing yards, turnovers and, of course, points.

The game ended with Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith throwing an awful interception to seal the victory for Buffalo. And Smith is where we need to begin and end.

The Chiefs have to sit Smith to save their season.

I don't know if you bench Smith for a half, a game or longer, but he's got to take a seat.

You can see the pressure building on him with each loss, and it's clearly affecting the team. When Smith threw the game-sealing pick Sunday, tight end Travis Kelce threw up his hands (h/t Pro Football Talk) in frustration. It's not good when players start visibly showing up their quarterback.

Earlier this season, I wrote that we weren't going see the same old melting-down Chiefs. We were going to see Smith take that 5-0 start and power into the postseason. Boy was I off.

Instead, we've seen a shaky Smith. Worse, we've seen a sometimes-gutless Smith. The seasoned veteran who took chances and threw the ball deep earlier this season has morphed into Tim Tebow. His throws lack accuracy. They reek of a QB playing it safe.

The swashbuckler we saw light up the Patriots and Eagles with aggressive play and fearlessness now looks...timid.

He's playing scared. There's no other way to say it. He looks terrified to try to make a play.

We saw this version of Smith once before, when he was in San Francisco. The same lack of confidence and uber-safe play led then-49ers coach Jim Harbaugh to stick with Colin Kaepernick. The 49ers went to the Super Bowl.

After Kansas City's game Sunday, coach Andy Reid told reporters he didn't consider benching Smith for rookie Patrick Mahomes. When asked if he would consider making a change in the future, Reid said, "No. That's not where I'm at right now. There's a couple other things I got to take care of."

Respectfully, I don't believe Reid. He is right that there are other issues plaguing the Chiefs: Their defense has become leaky and a once-powerful running game has slowed because of offensive line issues. But it would be coaching malpractice for Reid not to consider benching Smith.

During the team's three-game losing streak, the Chiefs are averaging just 12 points a game. When the Chiefs started 5-0, and beat the Eagles and Patriots—two teams likely headed to the Super Bowl—they were averaging 32.8 points a contest.

The primary culprit is pretty obvious, especially when he's thrown four interceptions in those past three games.

Who knows if Mahomes would be better, but there's no reason why Reid can't see what the rookie can do. If it doesn't work, Reid can go back to Smith.

No, none of this is stated with maliciousness. It's not a hot take. It's a measured response to what the eyes see and what you see are the wheels falling off in Kansas City.

They are falling off of Alex Smith.

It's time for the Chiefs to get new wheels.

[Deberg_1990]

Saw this on NBCs coverage. Dungy defending Smith. Sickening... :facepalm:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article185591013.html


The NBC studio crew took time to assess the Chiefs’ recent problems before Sunday night’s Cowboys-Eagles game and also at halftime.

Former Colts coach Tony Dungy said before that contest that the Chiefs, who have lost four of their last five games, need to open things up.

“We saw them taking chances, taking shots down the field, going to Tyreek Hill, I think now we’re back in that old Chiefs mode of 5 and 10 yard plays,” Dungy said. “Dink and dunk. Let Alex Smith go. Let him play.”


Rodney Harrison said the Chiefs have lost their passion and need to find it again.

Smith had 11 touchdowns and no interceptions as the Chiefs won their first five games. Since then, Smith has thrown seven touchdowns and three interceptions and the Chiefs have gone 1-4. So the slide is obviously not all Smith’s fault.

At halftime, Dungy expanded on his thoughts.

“They’ve turned him back into a game manager,” Dungy said of Smith. “The little 5-yard passes, 10-yard passes, gimmick plays. He’s got some playmakers, Tyreek Hill, (Travis) Kelce, these guys can get up the field. Turn him loose, let him throw some deep balls.”

[DaneMcCloud]

Saw this on NBCs coverage. Dungy defending Smith. Sickening... :facepalm:


Seven days ago, Buttfuck

[scho63]

Andy Reid is the most stubborn coach in the NFL.

He won't give up the play calling when things go bad, he won't give up Smith either.

Smith will play until the very end of this year IMHO.

[notorious]

Dungy owes everything to a QB the complete opposite of Smith. Fuck him.

[Valiant]

Would it matter this season?

Andy will still call the wrong plays to hinder the offense.
He needs to give up play calling first.

[Deberg_1990]

Seven days ago, Butt****

Oh oops.....but he did it again tonight.

[oaklandhater]

Seven days ago, Butt****

dungy was defending the int during the last drive tonight.

[Black Bob]

Fat Andy don’t care

Yep, if anything Mahommes will be inactive next week.

[oaklandhater]

Dungy owes everything to a QB the complete opposite of Smith. **** him.

Manning Proved the SB winning Colts was 90% him and 10% Dungy

[DaneMcCloud]

Yep, if anything Mahommes will be inactive next week.

Who?

[ILChief]

If they really don't want to play Mahomes this year then start Bray. He can't be any worse than what we saw today

[notorious]

If they really don't want to play Mahomes this year then start Bray. He can't be any worse than what we saw today

Although I agree that Smith needs to go, Bray can be many times worse than that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Although I agree that Smith needs to go, Bray can be many times worse than that.

I’m not sure how at this point

[Coogs]

Saw this on NBCs coverage. Dungy defending Smith. Sickening... :facepalm:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article185591013.html


The NBC studio crew took time to assess the Chiefs’ recent problems before Sunday night’s Cowboys-Eagles game and also at halftime.

Former Colts coach Tony Dungy said before that contest that the Chiefs, who have lost four of their last five games, need to open things up.

“We saw them taking chances, taking shots down the field, going to Tyreek Hill, I think now we’re back in that old Chiefs mode of 5 and 10 yard plays,” Dungy said. “Dink and dunk. Let Alex Smith go. Let him play.”


Rodney Harrison said the Chiefs have lost their passion and need to find it again.

Smith had 11 touchdowns and no interceptions as the Chiefs won their first five games. Since then, Smith has thrown seven touchdowns and three interceptions and the Chiefs have gone 1-4. So the slide is obviously not all Smith’s fault.

At halftime, Dungy expanded on his thoughts.

“They’ve turned him back into a game manager,” Dungy said of Smith. “The little 5-yard passes, 10-yard passes, gimmick plays. He’s got some playmakers, Tyreek Hill, (Travis) Kelce, these guys can get up the field. Turn him loose, let him throw some deep balls.”

Like the 4 or 5 balls against Pittsburgh? Let him throw them? Didn't realize it was "they" who told him not to throw them (or overthrow on the Robinson play at the end).

[wazu]

Although I agree that Smith needs to go, Bray can be many times worse than that.

A loss is a loss. We've lost 5 of the last 6 with Smith, including our last two to terrible opponents where we scored a grand total of 19 points. How can any QB possibly be worse? Lose by more? Don't care.

[Fish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For my KC folks: It&#39;s time for Patrick Mahomes. Enough is enough.</p>&mdash; nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/934889042923151360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Nick Wrong can eat a dick. Regardless of what he has to say...

[notorious]

A loss is a loss. We've lost 5 of the last 6 with Smith, including our last two to terrible opponents where we scored a grand total of 19 points. How can any QB possibly be worse? Lose by more? Don't care.

Oh, I agree completely, but when Bray does what he will the rest of the team is going to completely implode and no growth will happen.


It's Mahomes or nothing.

[KChiefs1]

Manning Proved the SB winning Colts was 99% him and 1% Dungy


FYP

[Discuss Thrower]

If Albert Wilson is going to drop a 2nd and 8 pass in the flat, does it really matter if it's a product of Bray rifling the ball in at 100mph or Smith throwing it a foot over Wilson's head?

[Black Bob]

Dungy and Harrison say don't bench Alex Smith.

[notorious]

Dungy and Harrison say don't bench Alex Smith.

James Harrison agrees

[tk13]

Harrison is usually fairly critical of Smith, I was surprised he said that. Said he didn't think the offensive line was playing well enough to put Mahomes out there.

[Buzz]

Dungy and Harrison say don't bench Alex Smith.


Saw that, this team is way more fucked up than I thought they were.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Dungy and Harrison say don't bench Alex Smith.

I wouldn't bench him yet but pretty soon I think you have to. I mean Smitty is playing so bad right now it's tough to watch. He looks like a bad college QB. I don't know what is going on but keeping any NFL QB out there if they continue to play as bad as Smitty is is just stupid....

However I'd still give him a game, two max to try to turn things around. I think he's in a slump, I'm hoping he'll pull out of it one of these games. I mean the guy didn't just stop knowing how to play QB in the past month.

Remember it is not just him basically the whole offense is bad in particular the offensive line and Kareem Hunt. Our WRs are trash. You got the gadget player Tyreek and then basically nothing. Kelce is arguably best TE in the NFL no complaints there but Tyreek and Kelce are not enough. Other guys need to start making some plays.

It just sucks how bad this offense has gotten. Reminds me of the Cassel days. Bad blocking, drops, overthrows, not seeing wide open WRs/TEs, penalties, miscommunications, etc... Just a horrible offense to watch right now.

[ROYC75]

Although I agree that Smith needs to go, Bray can be many times worse than that.

The way Alice has been, this is debatable.

[TEX]

Harrison is usually fairly critical of Smith, I was surprised he said that. Said he didn't think the offensive line was playing well enough to put Mahomes out there.

They're not, but maybe he could make them look better. :shrug:

[InChiefsHeaven]

When we have officially screwed the chance at the playoffs, they'll start Mahommes...

[Black Bob]

I wouldn't bench him yet but pretty soon I think you have to. I mean Smitty is playing so bad right now it's tough to watch. He looks like a bad college QB. I don't know what is going on but keeping any NFL QB out there if they continue to play as bad as Smitty is is just stupid....

However I'd still give him a game, two max to try to turn things around. I think he's in a slump, I'm hoping he'll pull out of it one of these games. I mean the guy didn't just stop knowing how to play QB in the past month.

Remember it is not just him basically the whole offense is bad in particular the offensive line and Kareem Hunt. Our WRs are trash. You got the gadget player Tyreek and then basically nothing. Kelce is arguably best TE in the NFL no complaints there but Tyreek and Kelce are not enough. Other guys need to start making some plays.

It just sucks how bad this offense has gotten. Reminds me of the Cassel days. Bad blocking, drops, overthrows, not seeing wide open WRs/TEs, penalties, miscommunications, etc... Just a horrible offense to watch right now.

People might think I am nuts but, if I were gonna start him one more time, is let him call the plays. He is a master of the offense and he hasn't been comfortable in a while. This would also eliminate a lot of excuses.

[BigRedChief]

http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/23300/with-freefall-continuing-chiefs-need-to-think-about-a-move-to-patrick-mahomes-ii

https://deadspin.com/the-chiefs-are-flailing-1820750676

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2746071-chiefs-bullish-on-patrick-mahomes-ability-to-replace-alex-smith-in-2018

https://fansided.com/2017/11/26/chiefs-start-patrick-mahomes-week-
13/

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article186610503.html

Espn Deadspin bleacher Fansided and Cris Carter saying mahomes should start.how is Mahomes supposed to start when according to Mellinger hasn't taken a snap in practice with the starters all year?

[Bewbies]

People might think I am nuts but, if I were gonna start him one more time, is let him call the plays. He is a master of the offense and he hasn't been comfortable in a while. This would also eliminate a lot of excuses.

Simple Jack approved.

[PAChiefsGuy]

People might think I am nuts but, if I were gonna start him one more time, is let him call the plays. He is a master of the offense and he hasn't been comfortable in a while. This would also eliminate a lot of excuses.

I don't have a problem with that. Not sure how much good it will do but it is worth a shot.

I think Smitty needs to get his accuracy back first of all. There's plenty of plays where guys are open and he is simply throwing a bad pass. He also doesn't seem to be seeing the whole field. Fix those two things I think the offense will look better. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it is going to happen. Maybe next game I hope.

And would one of our olineman learn how to block on running plays and stop making every defensive line we go against look like the f**king NY Giants SB winning dlines...

This isn't to create excuses for Smitty. He's playing like s**t there's no excuse out there but damn our offensive line sucks... They can't block anyone consistently especially on running plays. Also if you remember the Patriots game Smitty had a great pocket on a lot of his pass attempts. Now the pocket collapses almost every pass play. It's ridiculous.

[Ming the Merciless]

LOL

yes

smith doesnt even have the balls to audible out of bad plays or not check down / shit his pants and now you want him to call all of the plays

jfc

[Ash]

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/11/26/16702708/what-the-chiefs-should-do-with-alex-smith-and-patrick-mahomes

I’m not here to write about what Andy Reid will do. I think most people who know Andy (or have just watched him coach for a long time) believe that he is going to ride out the rest of the season with Alex Smith, regardless of what will happen.

No, I’m here to talk about what Andy Reid SHOULD do

I say all that to give some context for this next statement: Andy Reid should give serious consideration to benching Alex Smith and starting Patrick Mahomes.

There are a few reasons I’ve come to this conclusion, but I’m just going to state a few here. Make no mistake, though, I take no pleasure in writing that. My dream scenario was that Alex would ride off into the sunset a folk hero to Chiefs fans, having led them to a Super Bowl win in his final year. I hate how this is going down.

That said, Alex’s last 3 games (if the film vs the Bills looks ANYTHING like I think it is going to) have been utterly horrific. 5 of his last 7 have been terrible, with only the Raider and Bronco games being solid on his part. That alone would make me question things, because good quarterbacks generally don’t have that many bad games in that short a time span.

However, it’s the WAY Alex has struggled that has brought me to where I’m at. The Chiefs are getting throttled by cover 2 and middle field closed coverage zones, both of which are quite basic defenses that NFL quarterbacks have seen a million times. However, the Chiefs simply CANNOT find an answer to them.

[lmccluer]

Andy said he needs to take care of a couple other things first instead of switching QB's? What could be more important than benching Smith for Mahomes?



The only reason I could see that, is if Andy is trying to trade him, but what idiot team would take him now?


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[oaklandhater]

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/11/26/16702708/what-the-chiefs-should-do-with-alex-smith-and-patrick-mahomes

“Starting Mahomes means giving up on the playoffs. The Chiefs are in the hunt, they can’t go with a rookie QB down the stretch. Veterans will mutiny.”
As I said above, the Chiefs are currently playing the worst offensive football in the league right now. Unless you believe that Mahomes will be on the same level of, say, Tyler Palko or Tom Savage, there’s no reason to believe the output will actually get WORSE than it currently is.

Arrowhead Pride is off the Smith-bandwagon Shit got real LMAO

[srvy]

how is Mahomes supposed to start when according to Mellinger hasn't taken a snap in practice with the starters all year?

So what no differant than a Starting QB going out to injury in a game. Next man up!

[srvy]

Smiths brain is injured set him down.

[notorious]

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/11/26/16702708/what-the-chiefs-should-do-with-alex-smith-and-patrick-mahomes

“Starting Mahomes means giving up on the playoffs. The Chiefs are in the hunt, they can’t go with a rookie QB down the stretch. Veterans will mutiny.”
As I said above, the Chiefs are currently playing the worst offensive football in the league right now. Unless you believe that Mahomes will be on the same level of, say, Tyler Palko or Tom Savage, there’s no reason to believe the output will actually get WORSE than it currently is.

Arrowhead Pride is off the Smith-bandwagon Shit got real LMAO

Holy shit

[DaneMcCloud]

isn’t a “Freefall”?

In what universe?

[oaklandhater]

how is Mahomes supposed to start when according to Mellinger hasn't taken a snap in practice with the starters all year?

Look how bad we are now



“Starting Mahomes means giving up on the playoffs. The Chiefs are in the hunt, they can’t go with a rookie QB down the stretch. Veterans will mutiny.”
As I said above, the Chiefs are currently playing the worst offensive football in the league right now. Unless you believe that Mahomes will be on the same level of, say, Tyler Palko or Tom Savage, there’s no reason to believe the output will actually get WORSE than it currently is.

I'll let ArrowheadPride say it for me.

[TEX]

The only reason I could see that, is if Andy is trying to trade him, but what idiot team would take him now?


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John Elway...:D

[NJChiefsFan]

isn’t a “Freefall”?

In what universe?

No gravity.

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't have a problem with that. Not sure how much good it will do but it is worth a shot.

I think Smitty needs to get his accuracy back first of all. There's plenty of plays where guys are open and he is simply throwing a bad pass. He also doesn't seem to be seeing the whole field. Fix those two things I think the offense will look better. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it is going to happen. Maybe next game I hope.

And would one of our olineman learn how to block on running plays and stop making every defensive line we go against look like the f**king NY Giants SB winning dlines...

This isn't to create excuses for Smitty. He's playing like s**t there's no excuse out there but damn our offensive line sucks... They can't block anyone consistently especially on running plays. Also if you remember the Patriots game Smitty had a great pocket on a lot of his pass attempts. Now the pocket collapses almost every pass play. It's ridiculous.

That isn't a protection issue. That is an Alex confidence issue. When he plays safe ball he holds on to the ball longer. He pump fakes instead of throwing into a tight spot. And defenses stack 8 in the box and play with all their front 7 or 8 swarming the line of scrimmage. That is ****ing embarrassing. Almost all game they were playing with 1 deep safety. He is holding on to the ball too damn long and everybody knows its because he flat out refuses to throw to a receiver who isn't open by a country mile.

Watch games where Alex plays well. It isn't the protection that's better. It's that he finds the read he likes and decisively throws the ball even if it's a tight window, even if it's past 10 yards.

Alex improving his play improves the protection not the other way around. Want to make the defense stop crowding the line? Then punish them when the defense cheats up. I'm not talking about just deep balls. That is embarrassing when the only 3 throws your qb wants to throw is in the flats, screens, and underneath.

[oaklandhater]

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[chiefzilla1501]

I wouldn't bench him yet but pretty soon I think you have to. I mean Smitty is playing so bad right now it's tough to watch. He looks like a bad college QB. I don't know what is going on but keeping any NFL QB out there if they continue to play as bad as Smitty is is just stupid....

However I'd still give him a game, two max to try to turn things around. I think he's in a slump, I'm hoping he'll pull out of it one of these games. I mean the guy didn't just stop knowing how to play QB in the past month.

Remember it is not just him basically the whole offense is bad in particular the offensive line and Kareem Hunt. Our WRs are trash. You got the gadget player Tyreek and then basically nothing. Kelce is arguably best TE in the NFL no complaints there but Tyreek and Kelce are not enough. Other guys need to start making some plays.

It just sucks how bad this offense has gotten. Reminds me of the Cassel days. Bad blocking, drops, overthrows, not seeing wide open WRs/TEs, penalties, miscommunications, etc... Just a horrible offense to watch right now.

Did you seriously call tyreek Hill a gadget guy? Seriously? He's an outstanding receiver and its been shown time and time and time and time again that he and Robinson are getting open plenty but Smith will just not throw the ball.

[Sorter]

Run game has to pick up for either Smith or Mahomes to be successful.

Outside zone runs out of base personnel have been negative for 5+ weeks. Inside zone has been just as bad. The few times the Chiefs run concepts outside their emphasis (power, misdirect, etc) it’s been just as bad.

If the Chiefs want to have success, they need to use more passing concepts out of base personnel based on their run concepts (e.g. more bootlegs). This team currently has no identity.

[mcaj22]

Run game has to pick up for either Smith or Mahomes to be successful.

Outside zone runs out of base personnel have been negative for 5+ weeks. Inside zone has been just as bad. The few times the Chiefs run concepts outside their emphasis (power, misdirect, etc) it’s been just as bad.

If the Chiefs want to have success, they need to use more passing concepts out of base personnel based on their run concepts (e.g. more bootlegs). This team currently has no identity.

How about taking some snaps under center. Nobody is falling for Alex Smith standing in shotgun all game anymore. Especially when he makes no checks or audibles, just basically snaps the ball and runs the play as Andy designed it. I cant tell if thats an Alex issue or Andy by design but I am pretty sure Andy has let his QBs make changes at the LOS in the past. Not sure why Alex has no desire to do it.

[OKchiefs]

It's so much less stressful when you're rooting for the Chiefs to lose. Blast me, but that's the point I'm at. Being embarrassed can hopefully bring about change. I cheered when Alex threw his interception.

I want to see Mahomes, but if we're stuck with Smith then I want to see him look the same as he has these past 2 games the rest of the season. I want his tenure with Kansas City to end so badly that the fan base hates him as much as they did with Cassel. I want the memory of Smith to be that of a piece of trash that is no longer welcome in Kansas City.

[chiefzilla1501]

It's so much less stressful when you're rooting for the Chiefs to lose. Blast me, but that's the point I'm at. Being embarrassed can hopefully bring about change. I cheered when Alex threw his interception.

I want to see Mahomes, but if we're stuck with Smith then I want to see him look the same as he has these past 2 games the rest of the season. I want his tenure with Kansas City to end so badly that the fan base hates him as much as they did with Cassel. I want the memory of Smith to be that of a piece of trash that is no longer welcome in Kansas City.

Totally with you. I'm numb watching games right now. But I'm a lot more okay than the Cassel years because I know the end is near. I'm totally confident that even if Alex turns things around, he's gone next year no matter what.

[Hammock Parties]

It's so much less stressful when you're rooting for the Chiefs to lose.

It makes the games a lot more fun.

It was like having Peyton Manning in 2012.

[lcarus]

he flat out refuses to throw to a receiver who isn't open by a country mile.

And a lot of times doesn't even try to throw to receivers open by a country mile.

[New World Order]

OH returning to his posting prime.

[Rasputin]

Haha if I was pressing Andy Reid I'd ask him "if you're not going put the rookie in would you consider signing Colin Kaepernick and replace Alex Smith?".



That would be funnier than fuck if someone asked him that.

[Charlton-Chief]

Flying out from London for the Jets game! First time ever seeing the Chiefs and would love to see Mahomes first NFL Regular season game!

[Rasputin]

Flying out from London for the Jets game! First time ever seeing the Chiefs and would love to see Mahomes first NFL Regular season game!

Hope you're not disappointed but be prepared to be disappointed.

Our best bet to see Patrick Mahomes II is for an Alex Smith injury but it would look better for Andy Reid to make the switch. I can see Patrick going in and light up the game and make Andy Reid look foolish for not putting him in sooner.

[penchief]

I wouldn't bench him yet but pretty soon I think you have to. I mean Smitty is playing so bad right now it's tough to watch. He looks like a bad college QB. I don't know what is going on but keeping any NFL QB out there if they continue to play as bad as Smitty is is just stupid....

However I'd still give him a game, two max to try to turn things around. I think he's in a slump, I'm hoping he'll pull out of it one of these games. I mean the guy didn't just stop knowing how to play QB in the past month.

Remember it is not just him basically the whole offense is bad in particular the offensive line and Kareem Hunt. Our WRs are trash. You got the gadget player Tyreek and then basically nothing. Kelce is arguably best TE in the NFL no complaints there but Tyreek and Kelce are not enough. Other guys need to start making some plays.

It just sucks how bad this offense has gotten. Reminds me of the Cassel days. Bad blocking, drops, overthrows, not seeing wide open WRs/TEs, penalties, miscommunications, etc... Just a horrible offense to watch right now.

Smitty.

The offense will look much better once Smitty is not dragging it down any more.

Smitty.

[Tribal Warfare]

I believe Alex's nosedive indicates that he's succumbed to defeat. His confidence is shattered, and he's delving into Cassel territory.

Gosh darn it he's still great guy! Alex needs to kiss puppies , fuck his hot wife, and go full Ebenezer McScrooge and dive, roll, and play with his money in his giant vault to get his mojo back.

[bevischief]

Put a hammer in him.

[Rasputin]

Put a hammer in him.

:clap:

Haha

[bevischief]

Screw it. Put Reid and Clark out there too.

[Rasputin]

This has got to be one of the biggest choke jobs in NFL history if Chiefs fail make playoffs after going 5-0. Colossal fail. Colossal Epic Fail.

Only thing keeping their chances of playoffs is a week division. AFC West is an embarrassment to football.

[Rasputin]

Kase Keenum greater than Alex Smith.

[Mecca]

Dungy and Harrison say don't bench Alex Smith.

And now we know how a guy who coached Peyton Manning for like 12 years got 1 Superbowl.

[farmerchief]

This has got to be one of the biggest choke jobs in NFL history if Chiefs fail make playoffs after going 5-0. Colossal fail. Colossal Epic Fail.

Only thing keeping their chances of playoffs is a week division. AFC West is an embarrassment to football. Chargers have got to be the favorite now, to win the division. Theyve been on a roll the past few weeks, Rivers is toning down his interceptions, Allens been phenomenal, and the defense is getting tougher. Their corners are adequate and they get a great pass rush from Bosa and Ingram. IMO, they are the team to beat!

[Rasputin]

Chargers have got to be the favorite now, to win the division. Theyve been on a roll the past few weeks, Rivers is toning down his interceptions, Allens been phenomenal, and the defense is getting tougher. Their corners are adequate and they get a great pass rush from Bosa and Ingram. IMO, they are the team to beat!

I agree, but even the Raiders can leap frog us in the division if we lose next two games and they win.

[bowener]

At the same time we can win with Patrick Mahomes II. No way he would play as bad or timid as Alex Smith. Andy Reid is holding the team back not making the switch.

Patrick could have opened up that offense today

PM2 would have at least tried to hit Kelce when he was wide open for a TD on a deep route. That wins the game alone. Watching Mahomes in preseason and college, he looks at his deep options first then works his way back to his safety option. Smith, as we know, is the exact opposite. He stares down whichever player Andy wants the ball to go to, which ensures the defense will be tight on them, then he checks it down. It's almost like Alex Smith found a way to guarantee he gets to make the safe throw by claiming the 1st option was covered.

All local BBQ restaurants and sandwich shops should run food specials based on if Reid benches Smith. BOGO free specials would probably get Andy to make the switch.

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

Dumbass Deion Sanders is defending Alex too and saying it's not his fault. I guess he doesn't watch much game film!

[bowener]

Dumbass Deion Sanders is defending Alex too and saying it's not his fault. I guess he doesn't watch much game film!

Trent Green was defending Smith all game long too. I get it, QB bros. and all, but come on man! We can all see Alex ducking his head and scrambling at imaginary pressure. Sure, there were times when they got pressure on him, but how many times did he back peddle his way out of a play? Step up and make a throw you pussy!

[ptlyon]

Watching Mahomes in preseason and college, he looks at his deep options first then works his way back to his safety option.

Just like shooting ducks out of a flock

[RippedmyFlesh]

Replying to @ryanscotthall @STRONGbutChubby
Mahomes is the one on the sidelines trying to get guys fired up. Smith standing around.

Smith being a pussy. Great leader my ass.

[Black Bob]

Who?

Mahommes. That's how I spell it.

[Black Bob]

And now we know how a guy who coached Peyton Manning for like 12 years got 1 Superbowl.

Bullshit. Peyton choked over and over in the playoffs. That's a fact.

[thegame214]

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Arrowhead Drive after last night

[notorious]

I had to turn off whoever is on 610 after 10am. He is a ****ing moron.

[Hammock Parties]

I had to turn off whoever is on 610 after 10am. He is a ****ing moron.

Probably Joe Summers or Ron Hughley.

They were stroking their radio cocks last week calling me, Shaggy Shane and Lance Twidwell "irrational."

[oaklandhater]

You can Add Washington post to the list


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/11/27/the-chiefs-need-to-consider-moving-from-alex-smith-to-patrick-mahomes-at-quarterback/

And
USATODAY

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-chiefs-alex-smith-patrick-mahomes-bench-andy-reid

[JoeyChuckles]

How are we going to trade Smith and get something of value if he loses out to a rookie QB down the stretch?

I'm tired of Smith like everyone else, but I say let him sling it the last 5 games just so we can get something in return.

[The Franchise]

How are we going to trade Smith and get something of value if he loses out to a rookie QB down the stretch?

I'm tired of Smith like everyone else, but I say let him sling it the last 5 games just so we can get something in return.

He's literally killing his trade value every week that he's out there.

[OKchiefs]

How are we going to trade Smith and get something of value if he loses out to a rookie QB down the stretch?

I'm tired of Smith like everyone else, but I say let him sling it the last 5 games just so we can get something in return.

I'd take a 7th for him if it meant we could trade him to the Browns to spite him. I would love seeing him getting abused in Cleveland.

[KCrockaholic]

Big segment on ESPN about benching Smith for Mahomes.

[hometeam]

How are we going to trade Smith and get something of value if he loses out to a rookie QB down the stretch?

I'm tired of Smith like everyone else, but I say let him sling it the last 5 games just so we can get something in return.

This is a pipe dream, with his salary and dumpster fire like skill level, teams will just wait until we cut him.

[BigRedChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Time to take the car cover off of the Ferrari. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mahomes?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mahomes</a></p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/934890224420835328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[KCrockaholic]

Riddick was one of the main guys talking about Mahomes during the ESPN segment. And he was spot on with his takes. He's been watching the Chiefs closely, it was clear.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Big segment on ESPN about benching Smith for Mahomes.

Media loves controversy so of course. Don't be fooled they could careless whether the Chiefs win or lose they just want something to talk about.

[OKchiefs]

The front page of ESPN has an article about DeAndre Hopkins finally having a star quarterback once Watson is healthy again. Meanwhile, we're stuck with Alex Smith. Because Chiefs.

[OKchiefs]

The fanbases with the most excitement right now have to be St. Louis, Philly, and Houston. All 3 have been dealing with dog shit at quarterback for a while now and finally have answers. I'm incredibly jealous of their fortunes.

[thegame214]

Media loves controversy so of course. Don't be fooled they could careless whether the Chiefs win or lose they just want something to talk about.

And its worth talking about. A rookie could win the division. Sign me up.

[ILChief]

Mahommes. That's how I spell it.

Why?

[notorious]

Why?

Bob has an extra chrommosome.

[Third Eye]

The fanbases with the most excitement right now have to be St. Louis, Philly, and Houston. All 3 have been dealing with dog shit at quarterback for a while now and finally have answers. I'm incredibly jealous of their fortunes.

Yeah, I’m sure St. Louis fans are super excited.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm fucking dead.

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